WEBVTT - NXT Spring Breaking

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network.

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<v Speaker 2>Live from San Francisco. I'm a sports byline broadcasting network.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with your hosts,

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<v Speaker 3>Are you ready? Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get it off.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>know what that means. We got a let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>We got aw Dynamite tonight and we actually now have

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<v Speaker 1>a lineup, which we did not have yesterday. So we've

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<v Speaker 1>got six things announced for the show and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that and a lot of other things. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're up to twenty five hundred tickets now,

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<v Speaker 1>so that was what I guess they were shooting for

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<v Speaker 1>for this show. We'll tell you about that and also,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously last night was the first night of NXT Spring Breaking,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact we do have a new NXT champion.

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<v Speaker 1>Trick Williams won the title in the main event. It

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<v Speaker 1>was actually awesome. The match was great. Trick and Ilia

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<v Speaker 1>always have great matches and this was another one. And

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<v Speaker 1>end of the match, it was actually very similar to

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<v Speaker 1>a spot in the Brian Danielson will Ospray match, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think they also did a spot similar to this

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<v Speaker 1>in one of their other matches where they're each in

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<v Speaker 1>opposite corners. It's a duel in the Old West. They

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<v Speaker 1>both race at each other and hit their finish and

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<v Speaker 1>Trick hit that Trick knee first, and it'll always be

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<v Speaker 1>the Trickney to me, by the way, and he got

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<v Speaker 1>the pins. We'll tell you about that show as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And in all of the other news, not the least

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<v Speaker 1>of which is Vince McMahon's legal team has filed a

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<v Speaker 1>motion and Janelle Grant's lawyer responded and boy oh boy,

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<v Speaker 1>man uh, we'll open up with that today and then

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<v Speaker 1>get into all of the other news as well. Rock's

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<v Speaker 1>of w WE talent contract details on that, some notes

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<v Speaker 1>on the raw ratings. Swerve responds to Grays and Waller,

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea why Jay Us disappointed in his

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<v Speaker 1>WrestleMania match. Plenty more back in a moment Observer Live

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<v Speaker 1>Back in the show. Ryan Albarez here Wrestling Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike SIMPERVB also Wrestling Observer dot Com. I suppose we

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk about Vince. Vince mcmhann's legal team contends

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<v Speaker 1>that a binding arbitration clause exists in the NDA Janelle

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<v Speaker 1>Grant signed in twenty twenty one. By the way, if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody has any questions about this, send them to uh

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<v Speaker 1>the text message line four two five seven eight zero

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<v Speaker 1>seven five sixty six. That is four two five seven

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<v Speaker 1>eight zero seven five sixty six. I read the entire

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<v Speaker 1>filing yesterday and UH, there's obviously a lot in the

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<v Speaker 1>filing that's not necessarily mentioned this particular story wire you onlinem.

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<v Speaker 1>Although this is the gist of it. McMahon filed a

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<v Speaker 1>motion in the District of Connecticut Tuesday to compel arbitration

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<v Speaker 1>of Grant's lawsuit. This means he is asking the court

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<v Speaker 1>to recognize the arbitration clause and send the matter to

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<v Speaker 1>private arbitration hearings with an independent arbitrator rather than litigation. Typically,

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<v Speaker 1>a party makes this motion but it believes that mere

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<v Speaker 1>mention of the evidence during trial would be highly prejudicial

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<v Speaker 1>and could not be remedied by an instruction to disregard,

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<v Speaker 1>says Trellis Law. So, uh man, these filings, man, these lawyers,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's not like it's funny, but like this

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<v Speaker 1>is not you know, they don't sit there and say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these are the facts as we believe they are.

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<v Speaker 1>They have the most outrageous language in these filings. McMahon's

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<v Speaker 1>team said by publicly filing her salacious false in defamatory complaint,

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<v Speaker 1>plaintiff as brazenly and intentionally violated a binding contract to arbitrate.

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<v Speaker 1>Filing alleges McMahon grant engaged in a consensual relationship and

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<v Speaker 1>references the love letter that she wrote to him in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one love letter end quote as proof of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Contrary to plaintiff's false allegations, plaintiff and defendant engage in

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<v Speaker 1>a consensual relationship during which defendant never coerced plaintiff into

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything, never mistreated her in any way. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>in a love letter plaintiff wrote to defendant shortly before

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<v Speaker 1>the parties into their relationship, plaintiff described defendant as quote

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend, my love and my everything, praising him

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<v Speaker 1>for being the quote wonderful, tender, vulnerable, heart on your sleeve,

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<v Speaker 1>soul you really are. It is incredulous that plaintiff, a

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<v Speaker 1>then forty two year old woman who claims on her

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<v Speaker 1>resume to have a law degree from Pace University, would

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<v Speaker 1>have written those words to defendant months have withdraw all

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<v Speaker 1>the events in the complaint of alleged abuse, coercion, and

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<v Speaker 1>sex trafficking. They put that in quotation mark sex trafficking

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<v Speaker 1>to place. Several paragraphs in the filing refute claims in

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<v Speaker 1>Grant's lawsuit that she was in financial difficulties or was

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<v Speaker 1>a full time caregiver leading to her relationship with McMahon.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time the parties met in twenty nineteen, plaintiff

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<v Speaker 1>was not dealing with profound grief from her parents death,

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<v Speaker 1>mcmahn's lawyer said, and struggling financially as described in her complaint,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had not been quote devoting years to around

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<v Speaker 1>the clock caregiving to her parents. These statements are falsehoods

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<v Speaker 1>based on a foreclosure action against plaintiff and her parents.

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<v Speaker 1>Plaintiff's father passed away on April eighteen, twenty seventeen, two

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<v Speaker 1>years before plaintiff met defendant, and his marital status was

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<v Speaker 1>recorded as widowed, confirming Plaintiff's mother had passed away earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Filing also notes Grant was living with her fiance during

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<v Speaker 1>the time of her lif relationship with McMahon, and that

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<v Speaker 1>both parties were aware the other was involved in other

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<v Speaker 1>romantic relationships. Says during the party's consensual relationship, plaintiff and

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<v Speaker 1>defendant knew that the other was not involved was also involved,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry in other romantic relationships. Plaintiff was living in

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<v Speaker 1>Park Tower, a luxury, multi million dollar building in Stamford, Connecticut,

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<v Speaker 1>with her longtime fiancee, Attorney Brian gonn Calvis gon Calvis

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<v Speaker 1>Plaintiff Gonkalvez lived in the same luxury building as defendant,

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<v Speaker 1>four floors below when the parties began their affair in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen. Plaintiff would often visit defendant at his condominium

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<v Speaker 1>at all hours, including at two thirty a m. To

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<v Speaker 1>pursue their affair, and returned back to her condominium with

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<v Speaker 1>Gonkalve's the same night. Filing noted both parties agreed and

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<v Speaker 1>their relationship in twenty twenty two NDA was drawn up

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<v Speaker 1>and signed. Agreement includes a closet state's disputes would be

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<v Speaker 1>resolved through arbitration. In fact, because the parties wish to

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<v Speaker 1>preserve their confidential and private nature of any disputes them

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<v Speaker 1>the agreement, they specifically provided in the agreement that disputse

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<v Speaker 1>would be resolved through arbitration. And so there's plenty more here,

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<v Speaker 1>but the gist of the story, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people have questions about, you know, what's this, that and

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing. So I think the gist of it

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<v Speaker 1>is Vince's side is claiming that there was no sex trafficking,

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<v Speaker 1>This was a consensual relationship. They have not denied the

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<v Speaker 1>text messages. I mean the text messages are legitimate. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean no one's argued that. Their claim is that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were legitimate, but it was consensual. And obviously her

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<v Speaker 1>side is saying no, they were not consensual, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was forced into doing all of this. And the other

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<v Speaker 1>big thing is that Janelle Grant's side claims that Vince

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<v Speaker 1>stopped paying her and so she went public. Vince's side

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<v Speaker 1>is claiming, no, she violated the confidentiality agreement and thus

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped paying her. So you know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff here. I mean to me, it shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we should be able to find out as

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<v Speaker 1>they go, if they go to discovery, which is questionable, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what what's going on here? Like Vince's side claims that

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<v Speaker 1>she was living with her fiance, and her side claims no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>she was going through a rough time and her ex

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<v Speaker 1>boyfriend allowed her to live with him for three years

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it was as she attempted to get back

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<v Speaker 1>on her feet. So this is kind of like the

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<v Speaker 1>Ronda Rousey Drew Goulac situation. Well what's this guy say?

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<v Speaker 1>And and we don't know, but obviously that would be

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<v Speaker 1>one of the obvious questions. What does he say about this?

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<v Speaker 1>Was was she his fiance at the time or was

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<v Speaker 1>she an ex that he allowed to live there while

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<v Speaker 1>she was getting back on her feet. So like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these things here, you know, did she violate

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<v Speaker 1>the confidentiality agree before he stopped paying or not? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should be able to determine that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what happened first? So these are the it

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<v Speaker 1>is a it is a he said she said at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, and and each side is claiming the other

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<v Speaker 1>side is lying, and uh, I guess we have to

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<v Speaker 1>wait to see where it goes from here and and

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<v Speaker 1>what John Loaurnidis's side claims, because obviously John Laurnidis, you

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<v Speaker 1>know his claim is that you know what she is

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<v Speaker 1>saying is true. But I was also forced into this

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<v Speaker 1>by Vince McMahon and we have not seen his side

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<v Speaker 1>of the story yet, so that is coming. I presume

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<v Speaker 1>within the next few weeks. There was a mad deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the gist of it. Any comments Mike.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, not only his side of the story, but Vince

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<v Speaker 3>McMahon and his legal team has not gone after him

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<v Speaker 3>yet for saying that he's a victim in all this.

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<v Speaker 3>They are attacking now her character in the same way

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<v Speaker 3>that she attacked his with trying to point out things

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<v Speaker 3>about her. Her attorney did go on record as saying

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<v Speaker 3>Vince McMahon has never known a storyline that he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>twist to fit his own shameful narrative. Her father was

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<v Speaker 3>in home house hospice during his final days, where Janelle

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<v Speaker 3>continued to care for him around the clock. Prior to

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<v Speaker 3>his death, she had been caring for her blind, wheelchair

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<v Speaker 3>bound mother using the grief of someone who has lost

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<v Speaker 3>both of her parents is an all new level of disgusting.

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<v Speaker 3>And then later on, and this was in a statement

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<v Speaker 3>to Post and Russell Namis, she said she was not

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<v Speaker 3>dating at the time. Her ex boyfriend allowed her to

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<v Speaker 3>stay in the apartment as she rebuilt her life and

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<v Speaker 3>resume post taking care of her parents. She had no

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<v Speaker 3>job and no other financial support to lean on, which

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<v Speaker 3>you mentioned as well too. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 3>also Vince McMahon in this response is getting ahead of

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<v Speaker 3>is this does not fall under the Speak Out Act

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why, and that's going to be very important

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<v Speaker 3>here too, Brian, because this confidentiality agreement and whether or

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<v Speaker 3>not he stopped paying her or not, is it going

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<v Speaker 3>to cover her allegations of saying that there was sexual

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<v Speaker 3>assault taking place, And that's going to need to be

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<v Speaker 3>determined here, I think on what direction this goes, as

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<v Speaker 3>well as is there going to be any filing or

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<v Speaker 3>anything that comes federally or state wise out of this

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<v Speaker 3>as well too against McMahon if they're looking into him

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<v Speaker 3>that way.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is there's more on the front page, and

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, Dave for subscribers wrote an even longer and

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<v Speaker 1>more detailed story on the front page, and uh he'll

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<v Speaker 1>have more in The Observer this coming Friday, but more

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<v Speaker 1>after the break Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike semper viv on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>In the show, Brian Alvarez here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike

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<v Speaker 1>semper vv also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. So I

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<v Speaker 1>should mention, by the way that in the UH, in

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<v Speaker 1>the McMahon filing, what they're what they're attempting to get

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<v Speaker 1>here is obviously all of this taken to arbitration, but

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<v Speaker 1>also the final line in the arbitration clause reads that

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<v Speaker 1>the prevailing party, as determined by the arbitration Tribunal, shall

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<v Speaker 1>be entitled to recover from the non prevailing party all

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<v Speaker 1>of its attorney's fees and costs. So they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>obviously get this shut down and get all their money back.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course, yeah, we shall see what happens, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I expect it's very likely that this is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not going to trial would be my guess.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to do everything they can to get it

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<v Speaker 3>to settlement. If this fails, then just try to negotiate

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<v Speaker 3>a settlement so things don't go any further than they have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you're Vince McMahon's side. But again, I

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you got a guy who's doesn't have the

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<v Speaker 3>best reputation going into this to begin with, including last

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<v Speaker 3>year or eighteen months ago whatever it is, settling that

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<v Speaker 3>case with Rita Chatterton where he was accused of rape

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<v Speaker 3>after all of these years. So again it's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of he said, she said, and there's going to probably

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<v Speaker 3>be things that are blown up on both sides, from

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<v Speaker 3>both sides. But yeah, I don't think he wants to

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<v Speaker 3>go and fight this thing tooth and nail all the

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<v Speaker 3>way to the end. But we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Also got notes on the Rocks Talent contract with WWE.

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<v Speaker 1>This was the contract that he signed to join the

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<v Speaker 1>TKO board in January, which among things, ended up getting

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<v Speaker 1>him into the WrestleMania main event, and Rand Thurston said

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<v Speaker 1>the contract was published as an exhibit this past Friday

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<v Speaker 1>with WWE's annual report. It allows Johnson to quote higher

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<v Speaker 1>third party service providers in connection with developing concepts, grips, storylines,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. With w w's approval, so that would be Gortz,

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Gowertz, who has been the guy who has basically

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<v Speaker 1>been writing for him since the nineties. Part of the process,

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<v Speaker 1>w WE will reimburse Johnson's seven Bucks Entertainment for the

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<v Speaker 1>cost of those service providers. One such person naming the

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<v Speaker 1>contract but their name was redacted, likely was Brian Gortz.

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<v Speaker 1>Neil's worth thirty million dollars in TKO equity quote the

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson Equity Award and uh vests.

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<v Speaker 3>On the schedule through the end of the WWE bottom

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<v Speaker 3>line moving between man to Johnson's. That's what happened here

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<v Speaker 3>with his good friend Nick Cohn that used to hang

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<v Speaker 3>out on you know, on the beaches of Hawaii with him.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great deal for the Rock. It's an incredible

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<v Speaker 3>deal for the Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of the equity is for Johnson licensing his name, likeness,

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<v Speaker 1>and certain other intellectual property rights to w for use

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<v Speaker 1>in connection with certain categories of licensed products related to

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<v Speaker 1>professional wrestling from up to ten years, subject to certain

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<v Speaker 1>earlier termination rights. So if they make a Rock shirt,

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<v Speaker 1>Rock is actually licensing his license to two WWE to

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<v Speaker 1>yep the IP which includes the Rock and nearly all

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<v Speaker 1>of his famous catchphrases cannot be used on things like

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<v Speaker 1>political ads, alcohol, tobacco, marijuana, porn, or pop up ads.

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<v Speaker 3>They're very annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson is very gives pop up ads without his approval.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of twenty twenty three, he got nearly

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred niney one thousand for royalties, will continue to

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<v Speaker 1>receive yearly royalties for the sale of products with the

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<v Speaker 1>aforementioned ip. By the way, that's he made a half

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars during a period where he wasn't even there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't even there. He made like one appearance on SmackDown

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<v Speaker 1>and sold half million dollars worth of merchants such so, man, where.

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<v Speaker 3>Do gas station sexual enhancement pills come down on? With

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<v Speaker 3>all of this, can you can he still do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I would presume he would need approval.

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<v Speaker 1>So essentially he got paid basically thirty million dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>that WrestleMania run, and I don't even know if he's

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<v Speaker 1>got like another contract if they paid him outside of

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<v Speaker 1>that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I think he'll be okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's all right. He is definitely doing all right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the Johnson era. That's that's what you got there.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got Dynamite coming up tonight, and we finally

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<v Speaker 1>have matches. He's were announced yesterday. We got John Moxley

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<v Speaker 1>Powerhouse Hobbs IWGP World Heavyweight title, Swerve Strickland versus Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Fletcher in a world title eliminator match.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's call it a non title matching geeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the bigger issue is didn't Kyle Fletcher get

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<v Speaker 1>beat on Saturday? Now he's in a world or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Anna Jay versus Mina Shikawa we will hear

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<v Speaker 1>from Chris Jericho.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet you that gets one of the higher segments

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<v Speaker 3>on the show. I'm willing to bet that for some

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<v Speaker 3>reason that bucks the trend of women's wrestling not getting

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<v Speaker 3>as good a ratings as some of the men's stuff does.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet you on that one. I bet you that

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<v Speaker 3>one's up.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we've got Chuck Taylor must choose between Orange Cassidy

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<v Speaker 1>or Trent.

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<v Speaker 3>What'll come on, Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get back to that in a minute. And Willow

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<v Speaker 1>Nightingale has her TBS championship.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope they do. What's that get make? Maybe one

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<v Speaker 3>of your daughters has got it. Remember that thing you

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<v Speaker 3>used to like it was like origami or whatever you

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<v Speaker 3>used to like, open it up and go different, say

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<v Speaker 3>day yeah, Like is that how they're going to decide this? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whose friend are you going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I gotta do this first, and whatever happens,

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<v Speaker 3>he can pluck a flower, will it come up with

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<v Speaker 3>orange or we'll get this is dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>All I know is this?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what's the truth too? You're about to sneeze.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to sneeze. Mm hmm yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Facts. So uh I like it happier when they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have a card? Are you better know?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? I mean I was not happier when they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have a card. Nor was this person here, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>who who messaged me on Twitter? They said, quick note

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<v Speaker 1>regarding your comments this week on Observer Live about Dynamite

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<v Speaker 1>ticket sales for Jacksonville. I can speak for myself and

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<v Speaker 1>many of my friends. We were all totally open to

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<v Speaker 1>buying tickets even though Dynamite was here just a few

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<v Speaker 1>months ago. Biggest reason we won't be attending is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that nothing was announced in advance. Promotional materials leading

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<v Speaker 1>up to the event featured Osprey Ocotta, Mercedes, the Young Bucks, Danielson.

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<v Speaker 1>If there was any assurance that they'd actually be there,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be running to buy a ticket. Nothing announced,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be watching from home. Can also say I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>really upset if I purchaed a ticket based on the

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<v Speaker 1>marketing and none of the talent listed above appeared on

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't want to see Daddy Magick against Evil Luno.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that's what he's saying right there. Give me

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<v Speaker 3>some stars, give me some things that are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be happening around this joint. And by the way, I

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<v Speaker 3>apparently swear Strickland was on the Jacksonville, one of the

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<v Speaker 3>TV stations there. So that's a good thing getting your

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<v Speaker 3>people out to do media, especially you new champion. Try

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<v Speaker 3>to get him wherever you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I gotta ask a question for all of the

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.760
<v Speaker 1>hardcore aw fans of which I am, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually so astonishing to me.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a rhetorical question, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the best friends have been together since the

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<v Speaker 1>day this company started day one. Okay. So then they

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<v Speaker 1>did that match, you know, and and Trent got beaten,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he turned on Orange Okay, and Chuck Taylor

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of stood there. Okay, yes he did, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then confused. And then there was the Dynamite Show

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<v Speaker 1>and they said they were going to talk to Orange

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<v Speaker 1>Cassidy about this, and they said, no, stually, he'll speak

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>on rampage. Okay. Now, to be fair, I missed that rampage,

0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 1>but also so did everybody else, because it did you know,

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:11.440
<v Speaker 1>under three hundred thousand viewers. Something happened on that show.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't tell you. And then now it's, uh, Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>has to choose between them. I feel like I've missed

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>months of storylines. Can somebody explain this to me? Lenny, somebody,

0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 1>what if I missed?

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<v Speaker 3>What did Orange do?

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<v Speaker 1>If he's I don't have any idea?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if he have no idea, Orange is probably a

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<v Speaker 3>horrible persone. Apparently, what's that dumb? I just have an

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<v Speaker 3>answer for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Oh you don't have an answer. Oh you do

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<v Speaker 1>have an answer?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah I do, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 11>So I believe Orange was getting jumped postmatch and Trent

0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.800
<v Speaker 11>was going to absolutely murder him with a I think

0:25:55.840 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 11>a chair. Chuck comes in saves Orange, and that caused

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.600
<v Speaker 11>Trent to be like who are you with me or him?

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:04.719
<v Speaker 11>I think that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but he saved Orange, Okay, but between them and

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<v Speaker 1>him choosing tonight, I mean, was there like did Tony

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>in storyline? Did Tony Khan go Okay, Trent, you must

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<v Speaker 1>choose on Wednesday?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I miss a segment where they announced it on Wednesday?

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Did someone do an interview? Was there a promo? Was

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<v Speaker 1>there anything to connect these things together?

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<v Speaker 7>Or no?

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<v Speaker 11>I want to say, after Chuck saved Orange, preventing him

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<v Speaker 11>from getting killed by Trent, Trent like as he's back

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<v Speaker 11>pedaling up the ramp threatened Chunk and Chuck and said,

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<v Speaker 11>you're making a decision next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So he said this backing up the ramp. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't Okay, No, not Chunk. That's terrible. That's

0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that's what WW is doing now. Anyway, it's a dumb idea.

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 3>And I just I don't know Orange Cassidy, I guess

0:26:57.480 --> 0:26:59.199
<v Speaker 3>doesn't really need to be in a group. You can

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 3>use him him like you do Darby Allen and people

0:27:02.040 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 3>will respond to it. You know, our Trent and Chuck

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 3>better together. Well, you're trying to re establish your tag

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:11.840
<v Speaker 3>teams at least I would hope you're trying to do that.

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 3>So just get it out of the way, have them

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 3>both beat them up tonight, and be done with this

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<v Speaker 1>AGIN the show Brian Albarez here, Wrestling Observer Live, Mick sempervv.

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<v Speaker 1>Also Wrestling Observer dot com. Well, spring Breaking is over.

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<v Speaker 1>We have we have week two next week. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>first night is spring Breaking. The next week's show has

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<v Speaker 1>Obafemi against Ivar for the NXT North American title, Nathan

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<v Speaker 1>Fraser Naxian versus Aop for the tag team titles, Natty

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<v Speaker 1>versus Lola Ice in NXT Underground which actually expected to

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<v Speaker 1>be really good, and the corner people are Carmen Petrovitch

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<v Speaker 1>and Shana Basler for Lola Ice, we used to team

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<v Speaker 1>with Nanny. That's the storyline. Theahal versus j C. Jane

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<v Speaker 1>and Uh, I'm trying to pronounce his name, Tyreek Egway

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<v Speaker 1>and Tyson DuPont.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to see the names here.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you did you watch the show last night, most

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<v Speaker 1>of it? Yeah, okay, this Tyson and Tyreek I believe

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<v Speaker 1>his name. There was a video package because they're coming

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<v Speaker 1>next week. We have never seen them before ever, and

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>they do this video package. At one point they each

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly say their name. I had absolutely no idea

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>what their names were. And at no point anywhere ever,

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<v Speaker 1>did they put a graphic on the screen with their

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<v Speaker 1>names or I don't know if they have a team name.

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<v Speaker 1>I have absolutely no idea. Why is this so hard

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<v Speaker 1>for every company? I watch every company, and there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much simple common sense stuff that just doesn't happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. So anyway, their debuting next week,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever their name is are, whatever their team name is called,

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<v Speaker 1>we will see them next week, hopefully with a graphic. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>with that said, I did like the show last night,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly the main event. I know you will find this

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult to believe, but Ilia Dragonov and Trick Williams

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<v Speaker 1>was awesome. They are incapable of having a bad match

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<v Speaker 1>because Ilia Dragonov is absolutely incredible, and Trick Williams can

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<v Speaker 1>and will go in there and do an Ilia Dragonov match.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not ily A Dragonov working a match, a

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<v Speaker 1>Trick Williams match. This is I'm going to kill you

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and in response, I want you to try to kill me.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was just absolutely great. Place was going nuts.

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Whooped that trick chance. I mean, it was awesome. And

0:33:55.600 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 1>then finally at the end they see When I saw this,

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<v Speaker 1>I immediately thought, Okay, they just stole a spot from

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<v Speaker 1>Danielson and Osprey, which I have no problem with, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, because I watched that match. But they each

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, they did a double down. They both crawled

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<v Speaker 1>to the corner. They looked across at each other. Each

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>of them has a move where you run at each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was like the Old West duel.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 1>In the Danielson match, it was will was going to

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<v Speaker 1>go for the hidden blade, Danielson was going to go

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<v Speaker 1>for the flying knee, and I think Danielson hit it

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 1>first on that one could be wrong, but anyway, they

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<v Speaker 1>both race at each other and the trick knee wins

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.960
<v Speaker 1>out and my god, when he hit that trick knee,

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 1>they went nuts and he made the cover and he

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>got the pin and this place went so nuts, like

0:34:46.600 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the cameras are shaking like and not you know, a

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>guy going like this, like in WWE, like it's a

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>hardcam shaking because people are stomping their feet and going

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<v Speaker 1>so absolutely crazy. And then Eli gives him the title,

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<v Speaker 1>gives him a massive hug, Leaves gives him his moment,

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:11.200
<v Speaker 1>and I mean, must we do it again? Why in

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<v Speaker 1>God's name did this not happen? It's standing deliver because

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Mike Hey, booking a side, Okay, booking

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a side, Yes, sir, look at the reaction they got.

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<v Speaker 1>I know from how many people fit in that building?

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't know it eight fifteen hundred. It's only

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<v Speaker 1>on three sides, right, I mean I estimate four hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean maybe someone will tell me more.

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<v Speaker 3>But and there's nobody on the hard side of the camera.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, if you had four hundred, if you

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>even if you had a thousand people in that building, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred, all right, it's it sounded like a good

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand. You realize it's standing the liver and XT

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<v Speaker 1>stand in the liver. They drew fourteen thousand, five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seven fans. Can you imagine what the action would

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<v Speaker 1>have been had Trick Williams won that title instead of

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 1>instead of in front of four hundred fans instead of

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>in front of fourteen thousand, five hundred and seven total

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 1>maniacs on WrestleMania weekend. It would have been an all timer,

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>but instead they did Trick and Mellow in a straight

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<v Speaker 1>match Carmelo versus a babyface murderer, and then a mere

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>three weeks later they give Trick the title. Anyway, in

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<v Speaker 1>front of four hundred people, I was just like, God,

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<v Speaker 1>this is another one. Why is this so hard? Why

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 1>is this so hard? Anybody?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, now, I got a question for you. Got a

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 3>difficult decision, got a hard decision for you to make. HELI,

0:36:52.840 --> 0:36:55.959
<v Speaker 3>you're dragging off main roster. Nex.

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 1>We already know he's going to the main roster, he

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<v Speaker 1>declared for the draft.

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:00.399
<v Speaker 3>That's true.

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're not gonna go heading to NXT. NXT

0:37:04.680 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 1>is Ilia Dragonov.

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Look, Apollo Cruise and uh Odyssey Jones are a part

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<v Speaker 3>of this draft. We could hear that. I mean, technically,

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>are they part of the main roster? I guess that

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 3>they are. But Ilia Dragonov, I mean, with this draft,

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:21.720
<v Speaker 3>can't you still be you know, end up in NXT.

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>You're not being drafted from NXT to NXT it's not happening. Now,

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I got a list.

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 3>Does that mean Roxanne is up to hold on?

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<v Speaker 1>I got a list? Okay, because uh, this is my

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.319
<v Speaker 1>this is this is not an official list. These are

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 1>my predictions based on watching the show.

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 3>So this is some s you just made up.

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't make it up. But this is why I

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.160
<v Speaker 1>think is gonna happen. But I don't know, so I

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 1>guess you could say I made it up. Okay, based

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:49.840
<v Speaker 1>on this show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what you you mock, but get back to

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:59.160
<v Speaker 1>me after the draft. Okay, Roxanne retained the title over

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Tatum and okay, I presume Roxana sting. I don't have

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>any idea why this is another one? Why is this

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>so hard? Do you realize half of her gimmick is

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that she is like a twenty one year old prodigy

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>or whatever at this point by the time you call

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:28.360
<v Speaker 1>her up, it's like Bailey was like the hero to

0:38:28.400 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Little Girls in NXT and by the time they brought

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 1>her up, she was like thirty. So how long are

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you gonna wait? And you know what, this is not

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:39.800
<v Speaker 1>just an NXT thing? Where in God's name is Nick Wayne?

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I know, they hired him at sixteen sixteen, so then

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>on his eighteenth birthday he would debut as an eighteen

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>year old prodigy. And where are we? He has had

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>what four matches in aw all year. His mother does

0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>more talking than he does on the mic. He's literally

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>a few months away from now being nineteen, not even

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>eighteen anymore. I mean, what is the point of hiring

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>young people and then not doing anything with them until

0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>they're old? So anyway, I think she's staying because she's

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the champion.

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 3>To be fair, he's wrestling crash matches in Tijuana now.

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Actually he's getting pushed.

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>He's getting pushed the hardest, not in a w Yeah,

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:24.359
<v Speaker 1>that's where they are taking advantage of the eighteen year

0:39:24.400 --> 0:39:28.479
<v Speaker 1>old prodigy is everywhere except aw So anyway, uh.

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 3>To state in GCW him and Jordan Oliver.

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:34.479
<v Speaker 1>I think Roxanne is staying. I believe Roxanne is staying.

0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:35.439
<v Speaker 3>That's a sin.

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now we add fallon Henley and Jada Parker. Okay,

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:47.879
<v Speaker 1>Jada Parker of out the Mud who, by the way,

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you look at all of the other

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>green women, I'm talking the green ones not you know,

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>there's there's a NXT. It's like they got people that

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 1>are really good, and they got people that are green,

0:39:58.280 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and I would not consider Fallon Henny one of the

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:05.280
<v Speaker 1>green women. But Jada definitely is. She's had what three

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.080
<v Speaker 1>matches whatever.

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 3>So looks great.

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:13.080
<v Speaker 1>She won clean Pinner, Clean in the middle. She had

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a running hip attack in pin Fallon and the moment

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I saw that Valon Henley's getting drafted, yep, yep. Oh,

0:40:19.920 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were making fun of me earlier. I

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>thought you were making NFL draft jokes earlier. Now all

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, I'm right, uh.

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I got jokes, and I'm not saying Look, you're

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:31.239
<v Speaker 3>talking about obvious things here. You banged your hand on

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 3>the table and talked about obvious things. You brought up

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 3>Tiffany Stratton probably before in theory she was completely done

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 3>with NXT. The character is there. How she can put

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.440
<v Speaker 3>matches together, Eh, we'll see. But then again she can

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.799
<v Speaker 3>work with people on the main roster. Things have worked

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<v Speaker 3>out well so far. But that's why, like Roxanne and Fallon,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what else you could possibly do with

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.160
<v Speaker 3>them in NXT. It's time for them to probably come

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<v Speaker 3>up because with again, who is Fallon going to work

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.240
<v Speaker 3>with there on a consistent basis. That's gonna make her better.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the gimmick is down. The whole thing is kind

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:07.880
<v Speaker 3>of down. She's got to look and now she has

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 3>people on the main roster in Tiffany Stratton, you can

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<v Speaker 3>kind of bump up again, so she should be up

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<v Speaker 3>on the MA.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Valin is going up, I believe. And then we

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 1>had another soul Ruka Blair dabnport match, which, by the way, God,

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<v Speaker 1>it was horrible. Let me ask another question. You might

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>have heard this one before. Why is this so hard?

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:35.839
<v Speaker 1>You're you're literally in Florida. You've advertised a beach brawl.

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Why can't we brawl on the actual beach instead? They

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:42.839
<v Speaker 1>surrounded the ring. I swear to God, I'm making this up.

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 1>Beach balls. Okay, you know what a beach ball is, yes, yeah,

0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 1>it's really soft, full of air. And those those inflatable

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.879
<v Speaker 1>doughnuts that you've float in filled with.

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Air US weapon.

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then those kickpads, which you know those are

0:42:00.920 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 1>also somehow full of air. They're designed to float. They're

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:08.200
<v Speaker 1>so light. They are fricking hitting each other with this

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:12.479
<v Speaker 1>stuff and selling it. And I'm dying and The only

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 1>good thing in the match was Sola the ended her

0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 1>soul Snatcher or whatever off the ropes instead of the corners.

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:22.720
<v Speaker 1>She did off the middle rope. It looked even more awesome.

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.280
<v Speaker 1>And and she pinned Blair clean in the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, for so long I thought they were going to

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 3>hit the rope, so that is an amazing move.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say this in storyline, okay. And by the way, yeah,

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 1>they got bumped into a ball pit too, and that

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:39.200
<v Speaker 1>was just And that's coming from me who got bumped

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>into a kiddie pool and sold it. But the difference

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:43.839
<v Speaker 1>is I am allergic to.

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Water and you had a slipping slide, which makes it

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:47.800
<v Speaker 3>extra better.

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>Now, I will say that in storyline, Blair Davenport put

0:42:54.280 --> 0:42:57.359
<v Speaker 1>soul Ruka out of action for nine months because when

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Soul tore her acl, they did the phantom attack and

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Blair was responsible. Okay, so it is possible that this

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>was just a blowoff to a long feud, but it

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:09.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really a long feud because soldiers came back. So

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I watched this and my presumption was Blaired Avenport is

0:43:15.640 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 1>going up to the main.

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:20.120
<v Speaker 3>I would have said that until she got to NXT

0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 3>to me. She showed nothing. And I don't know bringing

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.080
<v Speaker 3>her up to the main roster unless you got some

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 3>good plan. I don't know, man, I don't know.

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 1>And then we add Baron Corbin and Lexus King and

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:36.719
<v Speaker 1>it was not completely clean. Lexus King kicked him in

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the ding dong and then pinned him with his finish.

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:42.680
<v Speaker 1>But Corbyn's he's out of here, He's going back to

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the main and an Ilia Dragonov is already declared. And

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 1>so those are the names I think are going up.

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Baron Corbin, Ilia Dragonov, Fellon Henley or fella, yeah, Fellon

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:59.879
<v Speaker 1>Henley and Blair ed Avenport. And I should also add

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>that at the beginning of the show they had a

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>meeting backstage. Got these meetings with Ava they are something else.

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>It's her and Adam Pierce and Nick Aldis is on

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 1>his's facetiming on a TV screen behind him. By the way,

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>had like anyway, so uh, that guy's good even on TV.

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:21.400
<v Speaker 1>But the point is they're all talking about the draft,

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and Adam Pearce made a point to say, you know,

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>they both said, you know, we're looking at all the

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 1>talent tonight wants some people up. And Adam Pearce did

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 1>specifically say, you know, we're looking for women for raw,

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.439
<v Speaker 1>So I think Blair and Fallon are probably are both

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>going up. So anyway, backing up with more Observer Live.

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<v Speaker 2>You are listening to Wrestling Observer Live with Brian Alvarez

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 2>and Mike simper Vivi on the Sports Byline Broadcasting Network.

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<v Speaker 1>So we do have an update here. You missed the

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>pre show Angle where Trent Bretta gave Chuck Taylor to

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>ultimate him and he has to decide tonight on Dynamite

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:24.240
<v Speaker 1>took place on zero hour.

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.240
<v Speaker 3>Why couldn't you just decide right then and there you're

0:45:27.400 --> 0:45:28.520
<v Speaker 3>the dude that you've been wronging.

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know you gotta put you gotta put some

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 1>thought into it. You know, I gotta put some thought

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 1>into it.

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I guess.

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I like when I want an answer that it is

0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>in my favor, I demand a person give it some

0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 1>thought first.

0:45:40.800 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, I can't wait until like you finally hit Craig

0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:48.080
<v Speaker 3>in the head with a chair, and then Vinnie's got

0:45:48.080 --> 0:45:50.959
<v Speaker 3>to stand there and actually decide has this man gone

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:53.399
<v Speaker 3>nuts or not? Is there something wrong with this man?

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:57.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know, what did you do? Nothing? Well,

0:45:57.040 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 3>then you know you should be pissed off with the

0:45:58.960 --> 0:46:02.280
<v Speaker 3>person that him with the or in this case, the knee.

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Says, assuming THEA beats Jac next week, I can see

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 1>Jac going to the main roster. Maybe THEA is the

0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 1>one to beat Roxanne for the title. Well, the problem

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:12.399
<v Speaker 1>is that the draft is like Friday and Saturday. So

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:14.839
<v Speaker 1>my guess is that anybody who they wanted is who

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be drafted they put on Night one and

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>beat him. I mean, it's possible and everything, but well,

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:21.560
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be.

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Interesting to see who stays in NXT or if somebody

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.120
<v Speaker 3>goes down there. I mean, obviously you have the rotating

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 3>people like I think aop and carrying crosses, but I

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:31.879
<v Speaker 3>do wonder if we are going to get somebody who

0:46:31.880 --> 0:46:35.719
<v Speaker 3>gets drafted down or again gets moved over obness. See

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Jones is a great example, Apollo Cruise is a great example.

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:40.160
<v Speaker 3>You can do a lot more with them in NXT

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:42.800
<v Speaker 3>than you're ever gonna do with them on the main roster.

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.919
<v Speaker 3>Because I hate this for Odyssey's sake, but we saw

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:48.120
<v Speaker 3>some of those guys who have come up recently, not

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:50.919
<v Speaker 3>the least of which is Ovi Feme, and you're gonna

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 3>get into a shuffle spot again of how many people

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 3>can you have going at once?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, we got the draft rules forgot about those, so

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:04.359
<v Speaker 1>there's anyway we'll read those tomorrow. We got time we

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:50.319
<v Speaker 1>do talk to next time, everybody. Wrestling Observer Live. You

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:53.320
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