1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome in. 'm Doug got him been. This is 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: all ball. I'll hoop all the time. Um. Sometimes I 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: give a little rants, little thoughts, and then we throw 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: it to an interview. In this case, the rans, the 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: thoughts are all within the interview. Franfat Schill is my guest. 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: Of course. He's a long time college basketball analyst and 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: international draft expert for ESPN. You can also hear him 8 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: on NBC's coverage of the Olympics the Summer Olympics this year, 9 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: both on NBC and on the Peacock Network Peacock Network. Um, 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 1: he was a longtime college basketball coach, and I want 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: to get to the personal side of fran Facill because 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: his rise to fame has really been remarkable journey and 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: of course has two sons now in the the professional 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: of coaching. But I wanted to start this pod and 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: do this pod more more topical, because all of the 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: topics of the current moment in the end b A 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: are perfect for France. So here's me catching up with 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: fran fella. Um, Franny, I want to get into your 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: personal story, your rise of prominence and coaching and rise 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: to prominence and broadcasting. But um, look that this is 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: like the as you know, the perfect time of year 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: to talk to you because you have players that you 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: saw more and evaluated more than anybody. Then we have 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: the Olympics and international competition, plus discussion about about Luca 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: um and and also you understand kind of the I 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: saw that tweet you had about Lithuanian players, the the 27 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: creativity of European basketball and how we're actually stealing from 28 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: them as opposed to them stealing from us for years. 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: So but let me let me start with Trey yes 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: Um what what was your eval of him when he 31 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: was in the NBA draft a couple of years ago. Uh? 32 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: You know, Doug, because you know how well I know 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: the state of Oklahoma. I've known Trade since he was 34 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: in sixth grade in Norman. You know, my son James 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: was part of Oklahoma basketball. So I knew Ray Young 36 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: as a player of Texas Tech. You might have played 37 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: against Ray? Did you play against Ray? Yeah? All three years? 38 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: He was tremendous player, you know, And so I got 39 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: to know the young really really uh early. And uh, 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: I have to tell you, like I saw some of 41 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: this greatness at times at Oklahoma, and I love coach Krueger. 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: I felt that season. I did nine of their last 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: ten games on ESPN, and I think if Coach Krueger 44 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: had to do it over again, he probably would not 45 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: have let the genie out of the bottle so easily. 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: In other words, Trey was this incredibly precocious talent um 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: really turned out to be even a better passer than 48 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: anybody realized. And I felt like the freshman year at 49 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: Oklahom Homer. Although we put him on TV every night 50 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: and we we made a big deal of him at ESPN, 51 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: it was sort of unfulfilling because there was a disconnect 52 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: by the end of the year between Trey and his teammates, 53 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: and so when he got to the n b A, 54 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: he was drafted away. He was and by the way, 55 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: traded for Luca don Chech, which at this point is 56 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: not as crazy a deal as you would think, even 57 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: though Luca is on his way to generational talent UH 58 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: in the Larry Michael lebron UH magic mode. But I 59 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: have to give trade credit, and I give date Nate 60 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: McMillan a lot of credit because he has harnessed an 61 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: incredible talent. Doug. I did not see this coming the 62 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: first two and a half years as a as an 63 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: Atlanta Hawk, I don't know about you what he's doing 64 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: right now. An NBA guy told me something interesting yesterday, 65 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: and you were a great passer, so maybe you'll relate 66 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: to this. He said, Trey Is is getting great at 67 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: making the next pass as opposed to looking for the assist. 68 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: It's a it's it's it's honestly one of the things 69 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: that lad I think to his disconnect some in Oklahoma, 70 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: but more in the NBA, where what I was told 71 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: and if I'm being totally honest, like who watches a 72 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: regular season Hawks game right start to start to finish? Um? 73 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: But I but I have friends in the NBA who said, like, look, 74 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: he can do a lot of the things, but he was. 75 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: I go back to last year before everything got shut down. 76 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: He was playing to be an All star, right, he 77 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: was holding because and and when you're really when you 78 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: when you have complete control of the game like he does, 79 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: you can take that one extra dribble and make sure 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: that your past leads to a shot whereas you passed 81 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: a little bit early. That's when it becomes the hockey assiste. 82 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: But no one in broadcast America actually counts the hoky 83 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 1: as system. Yes, he's finally, but that's one of the things. 84 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: Look here's and this is I think what we're all 85 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: getting at. He was hard to play with. It's you know, 86 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: he was it's hard to play with. And it's really 87 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: hard to explain to somebody how could a guy lead 88 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: the country and assists and be hard to play with? 89 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: How can a guy to lead the country and score 90 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: and be hard to play with? The Cane just hard, 91 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: hard to play with. He was hard to play with. 92 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: And then the other part was, you know, he was 93 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: so close with Mokin in that in that AU program 94 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: with Michael Porter Jr. And they were both described to 95 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: me as bubble boys, and I was like, what does 96 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: that mean? Like, well, both their dads played no Ah 97 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: ton of basketball, um, and they've kind of protected them 98 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,799 Speaker 1: from just being like a kid on the AU circuit, 99 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: and so sometimes they don't necessarily interact as well with 100 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: kids their age like they should because they've been solely 101 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: focused on the NBA and skill development for years. And 102 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: it so that that was the other part was obviously 103 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: the defense and whether or not he would buy into 104 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: giving some form of effort, which at times wasn't there 105 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, right you got, yeah, go ahead, Well listen. 106 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: You know what I love about this team, and I 107 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: have some friends that are involved in Hawks basketball ball, 108 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: is that Nick McMillan came in UH midway through the 109 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: years the interim coach, and he had an attitude of like, look, 110 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to coach the way I've always coached UH. 111 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: I was a defensive guy I played with, I played 112 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: with more. I don't think Trey's a difficult personality at all. 113 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: But in name McMillan, you're talking about a guy that 114 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: played with Seawn Camp and Gary Payton and was in 115 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: his own way, a great player in his role in 116 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: the NBA. And what I love what Nate did was 117 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: he just pretty much sat trade down early on and said, 118 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: you're not gonna play the way that you've been playing. 119 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna channel all this incredible talent in a way 120 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: that's gonna help you and your teammates and make us 121 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: it really hard to guard and and hold him a 122 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: little more accountable defensively. Um, but I'm amazed. I have 123 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: to tell you, I'm impressed, and I'm amazed that he 124 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: that he's been able to do this, and it's at 125 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: a point Doug as I said earlier, I think, look 126 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: like if if if um if our guy from Duke 127 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: who was involved in the trade, the kid that's hurt now, 128 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: Cam Reddish. Cam Raddish was playing really well at the 129 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: end of last season before he got hurt. If. Cam 130 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Raddish was a fifth starter on this team, and I 131 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: do believe he has a talent to be a good, 132 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: very good NBA player. This trade is not as crazy 133 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: as people thought. And I thought three years ago as 134 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: good as Luca is. I think that's a testament to 135 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: how well trades playing. I'm look, I'm I'm impressed. I'm amazed. Plus, 136 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: you know, some of it is, like you, it's the 137 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: the the ability to be as creative as he is. Yeah, 138 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: in in in these like you know, he goes in 139 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: and throws the ball. It wasn't like I've thrown the 140 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: ball off a backboard to a guy for a duck, 141 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: but to do it on a sideball screen in an 142 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Eastern Conference finals and kind of an awkward angle and 143 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: just like yeah, I just throw it backwards, Like the 144 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 1: is incredible. Yeah it really is. Yeah, it's mind blowing, 145 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: really it is. So you also, you have to be 146 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: able to you have to be able to pull it off, right, 147 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to pull it off. Yeah, he's 148 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: doing it against the best players in the world right 149 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: now and he's two years old. Crazy um Okay, speaking 150 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: of confidence, Ben Simmons confidences shot. Yes, I thought Ben 151 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: Simmons was the real deal in college, now I did. 152 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: I knew he didn't work hard when he's a l 153 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: s u UM, but I thought some of that was 154 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: the culture of the place where he was and he 155 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: absorbed it. And I had heard things about that Ben Simmons. 156 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: I saw that you tweeted about, like the level of 157 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: disappointment not playing with the ofsse's because they're cold or 158 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: is awesome, and you think that would be helpful. So look, 159 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: we all see he's got to figure out the shooting, 160 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: the confidence or whatever. Um. But you also want to 161 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: sign that he understands how to fix it. Do you 162 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: think he and Rich Paul understand how to fix it? No? 163 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't. I mean I don't know Rich Paul, but 164 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: he's obviously a very smart guy. I mean that's that 165 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: speaks for itself. I I think I know this, I 166 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: know coaching, I know player development, and I know that 167 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: his shot is not gonna be fixed in three months. 168 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: I think his psyche needs to be fixed more than 169 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: a shot, because I think he can play at an 170 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: all star level and he's already proven it. Doug, Doug, 171 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: how about this. You probably know this. He's twenty four 172 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: years old. He's been a three time All Star, two 173 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: time All Defense, one time All NBA Third Team. Um, 174 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: the kid is still an amazing talent. His psyche is broken. 175 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: So how do you fix How do you fix the 176 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: most important thing in his game right now? Which you 177 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: think so so very simple. It's a friend, Um Ben 178 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: calls you today. I got the answer you ready to 179 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: take to take a few more days off. Called Brian 180 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: gorge In the head of the national team, the Australian 181 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: national team, and say I'll be there in l A 182 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: at training camp. Because first of all, he has not played. 183 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: They call him Yank. That's his nickname in Australia, Yank 184 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: because his father is American and he has an American 185 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: way about him. Right. But he's an awesome he you know, 186 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: he loves Australia. I would play for the Australian national team. 187 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: I would be around Joe Ingles, Patty Patty Mills, Mattie Dova, Dova, 188 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: Chris Goldling, all those all those tough, hard nosed Ausse's 189 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: who you love to drink a beer with after a game, right, 190 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: and and I would just soak in that culture of teamwork, 191 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: togetherness and and let those guys build up your confidence 192 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: because they would do it. Doug, I'm telling you, like 193 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean this, There is no way his jump shots 194 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: improving in three months, but his side as that can 195 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 1: let me let me hop in here. Okay, So I 196 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: I think you need to attack it on three fronts. Okay, 197 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: I didn't think Mark help. Remember when Mark l Folds 198 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: tried to spend the offseason fixing his jump shot and 199 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: he's been he's had some success now, but he's still 200 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's still a hitch there. It's still 201 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: not great. Right. I think you you need to work 202 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: on his psyche, and I think working with the offseason 203 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: is great. I think you need to get in the 204 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: gym and and work tirelessly. And then I think you 205 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: also need to play in games like he. You can't 206 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: no matter what you do working on both the physical 207 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: and mental aspect of it, until you've done it in 208 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: a game. You have you have no sense of where 209 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: you are and I get You're like, well, you don't 210 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: want to do too early, Like yeah, I think you. 211 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't because say you say, Okay, I'm gonna take 212 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: time away and I'm gonna go and lock myself in 213 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: a gym with a shooting coach and then I'll have 214 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: a sports psychologist or whatever. Like that's great, I've done that. 215 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't worry. Then you get back and then you 216 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: get into a game and somebody's playing seven feet off you, 217 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, all the work you've done, 218 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: there's a there's a game slippage element to it, and 219 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: it's really really hard. So I would do I would 220 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: attack it on on three fronts. I agree with you, 221 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: and and l A is like his home baby. It's 222 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: a total no brainer to say, I'll do whatever you guys. 223 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: If you don't want to play me, fine, guys, want 224 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: to practice. I want to be around you. I want 225 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: to work on uh. And then every time you're not 226 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: in the practice, then you go to a gym in 227 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: l A and you work with with whoever you'r shooting 228 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: guy is and you you gotta work through it. Ken 229 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: would you would you would you switch him to right 230 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: hand it? Do you know what? No? No, I would 231 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: I honestly, man, this is simple. This is simple, like, yeah, 232 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: go play for Australia because you're gonna get the games anyway, Doug, 233 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: You're gonna get six games. They have it. He's the 234 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: s player on the Australian team. They might play USA 235 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: in the gold medal game, and who knows how cool 236 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: that would be for him to have a breakout game. 237 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: Maybe they don't beat the USA, but maybe a month 238 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: with his compatriots, with the guys I mentioned turns him 239 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: around and all of a sudden he comes out of 240 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: the Olympics quote unquote new Man. Then you go back 241 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: into the gym and work on some certain things. This 242 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: guy can be a dominant player in the NBA without 243 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: a jump shot. I honestly believe that. And if it 244 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: gets better, great, But I honestly think the psyche part 245 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: playing with Australia, to me, that's the panacea right now? 246 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: Do that I think he'd be I think it would 247 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: be a great help to him. Fox Sports Radio has 248 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 249 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox sports radio dot com and 250 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 1: within the I heart radio app search f s R 251 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: to listen live. Um, okay, you mentioned Luca and yes 252 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: said generational talent. Generational talent. Okay, So they don't have 253 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: a head coach, they don't have a general manager. You 254 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: until recently, like Dallas has been your homes, you totally 255 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: understand the coach of that environment. You understand what Donnie's 256 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: done four years. If if you were to get a 257 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: phone call from Mark Cuban and said, Franny, I need 258 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: to fix this thing. Yeah, you can't hire yourself. Yeah, 259 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: what do you how do you build it around Luca 260 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: in order to get the most out of Luca. Well, 261 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: the issue in Dallas is to me as a as 262 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: a somewhat outsider, although I've I've lived there nineteen years 263 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: and I know the principles embalmed. Is that Mark Cuban, 264 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: like a lot of owners, owns the team and can 265 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: do whatever he wants. And you know, it's it's it's his, 266 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: it's historic record now. But Donnie Nelson wanted to take 267 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Janice Attempt to Kumbo last year. It's very simple. He 268 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: wanted to take Sadick Bay and said they drafted because 269 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: of the analytics. Guys. John Green you Australian by the way. Coincidentally, 270 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: and so, um, if you work for Mark, Mark's gonna 271 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: have a lot to say because he's a very smart 272 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: guy and he thinks he understands basketball. Okay, that's fine. 273 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: So let's say whoever he hires, Michael Finley, who's been 274 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: with him, and it's likely who is going to be 275 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: the next president of operations. To me, now, you gotta hire. 276 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: I think you gotta hire. I think you gotta hire 277 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: professional coach. Okay, I get giving some of these guys chances. Um, 278 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, ex players, et cetera. I get that. I 279 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: understand it. It works out sometimes. You know, it was 280 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: only a year ago that JB. Bickerstaff was supposed to 281 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: be the hot name. And I know j B. He's 282 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: in Cleveland now and this is his third job, you know, Houston, 283 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: Memphis and now Cleveland. Stephen Silas is in Houston. A 284 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: really good guy, I mean. And May Judoka is gonna 285 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: be the coach of the Celtics. Great, he deserves it. 286 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: If if the Spurs were smart and they think so 287 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: highly of Becky Hammond, they would tell her not to 288 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: take the Portland Trailblazer job and just replaced Pop. I 289 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: think I think they need a guy with proven experience. 290 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: I don't know who that is, but someone who's been 291 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: an NBA head coach who can hold Luca accountable at 292 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: times because he does get a little out of control, 293 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: but also allow his unique ability to affect the game 294 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: to flourish. So I don't know who the experience veteran is, 295 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: but I would not take my chances on a generational 296 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: talent with the first time NBA head coach. I agree 297 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: with you. It's interesting though, on how on where the 298 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: league feels like it's going right like it it feels like, 299 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's sick eight thirties to early fifties at 300 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: the oldest former player that has has some experience, because hey, 301 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: they can relate to these guys they can relate to right, 302 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: And I just think you gotta build a staff you're 303 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: if you're not in that, if you're not of that, 304 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: you gotta build the white staff that can be bridge 305 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: in between. Right Like. That's the mistake of Brad Stevens 306 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: is Brad was very smart. His old tap staff was 307 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: very smart. But there were there were some there wasn't 308 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: the connection with the team, and there are other teams 309 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: like that where where there aren't um but but hey, 310 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: by the way, all four, all four coaches left in 311 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs have been fired and rehired. So this deal 312 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: about retreads, give me a break, you know what I mean? Like, 313 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: if you talk about black coaches getting opportunities, how cool 314 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: is it that tylu got fired, got another chance? DC 315 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: Rivers gets fired, gets another chance. And then obviously Monty 316 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: Williams shouldn't have got fired in New Orleans, but did 317 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: and it's proven to be a great coach. So if 318 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: I have Luca Dodges, I'm looking for the most experience. 319 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: I you know why I would hire and these people 320 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: are not smart enough to do it. And I say 321 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: this respectfully towards Stand van Gundy, because I know this 322 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: family a long time. They hired the wrong Van Gundhi 323 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. But he doesn't he doesn't want the 324 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans yet. Well he may not have wanted, he 325 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: may not, but he's gonna rock got it, not not 326 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: get a lot of opportunities. My point is, can you 327 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: imagine what Jeff van Gundhi, he an amazing job with 328 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: USA Basketball, what he could have done with Zion and 329 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: that group and I think that what I love about 330 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: Jeff no offense to stand is he's got a humanity 331 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: about him that, along with his incredible knowledge of the games, 332 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: wanted very few people to know that rule. The other 333 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: the night, Um, I think I think teams have really 334 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: missed a boat on Jeff van Gundy if he wants 335 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: a coach. I agree. I think Houston tried to offer 336 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: to him and he didn't want it because, yeah, it 337 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: got to a point where he that's not where he 338 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: wants to end his career. With the argument between Harden 339 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: and Westward, that would have made no sense, right right, 340 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: I think. I mean there's a job on the west 341 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: coast that's not open that might be open, and that's 342 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: that's the one that he should I don't know if 343 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: they want him for that, But okay, you mentioned the rule. 344 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know the rule. But I also knew the 345 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: rule because j Triato ran play a couple of years 346 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: ago and I was watching, and then I watched on 347 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: highlights and they were like, there's no attending on on 348 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: on on o B plays. Um, no one knows the 349 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: rules better than you. That's I learned that from you. 350 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, and I make some mistakes, but teen 351 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: years ago, maybe you said it. Dan Steer gave us 352 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: the rule book before one of the years at ESPN, 353 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: and he said, be a maven, know all the rules. 354 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: And you read it start to finish. And you asked 355 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: me one time, like do you know the rules? Was like, man, 356 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: I like there was I didn't know the there was 357 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: a there the ten second account rule in college basketball. 358 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: I remember, I got Majaris corrected me one time he 359 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: was watching a game I was doing. And because there 360 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: used to be a rule where you couldn't reset the 361 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: ten second count when you took the ball out of bounds. 362 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: Change in college basketball, when when you got the ball 363 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: and bounds. Anyway, Okay, so I know you knew the rule. 364 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: I know you're you're being self deprecating and say you 365 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: didn't know the rule. No, but I don't know all 366 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: the rules. I'll make them. You knew the rue. You 367 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: had to know the you know the rule with DeAndre 368 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: in the night, Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Because because Jay 369 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: is a friend J Triano and I go back back 370 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: and and and when it happened, Like I talked to 371 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: Curtis Shaw, a college guy the other day about that 372 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: playing he tells me that rule is the same rule 373 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: in college. I have to look that up because I'm 374 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: not totally sure, but yes. But here's the point about 375 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: the rules when it comes to guys like you and me. 376 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: First of all, Doug, you know, I'm thinking about your 377 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: dad right now, smiling, because I know you're the son 378 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: of a coach. I know the rules better now than 379 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: I did when I was a college basketball coach, because 380 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: when you're on the sideline and something happens in a game, 381 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: you can go up to the official quietly say, hey, uh, John, 382 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: can I set my guy back in? And oh, yeah, coach, 383 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: that's the rule, you know. Yeah, the clock didn't start, 384 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: but they turned it over, so you're about to get 385 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: your guy back in. It's their mistake. I didn't know 386 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: those rules when I was coaching some of them. If 387 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't know the rule on TV, then I'm no 388 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: longer an expert. So and the other thing out it 389 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: is I have to I have to mention as Okay, 390 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm not a referee bacher. Okay, I'm a referee lover, 391 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: because this is the only profession that you have to 392 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: start out perfect and improve from there. And and these 393 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: guys get them wrong some nights, but by and large 394 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: they get plus correct, and I want them to know 395 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: that I got there back when there's a call in 396 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: a game that the average fan or game analyst doesn't know, 397 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: and I say, no, that's not the rule. Here's the rule, 398 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: and this is why the official is correct. And so 399 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: you know, I think we all have a stake in 400 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: the game, players, coaches, referees and analysts announcers, and I 401 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: take pride in trying to know the rules. You mentioned 402 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: the son of a coach. And also and maybe this 403 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: is how my brain works and how my dad's brain 404 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: used to work, but it's and how every coach I've 405 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: ever played for worked. But when we watch film, we 406 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: watch it differently. Right first, like money drove up a 407 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: really good play and to do it, and I understand 408 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: they shouldn't have had a time out, yes, but but 409 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: and we'll get to that in a second, But to 410 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: get to to like, hey, we got point eight seconds, 411 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: what do you got, coach? All eyes on you to 412 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: draw it up and to get a get a dunk. 413 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: And and for people like well, you know the play 414 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: wasn't for Devin Booker, like bullshit, if you if you 415 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: switch or if you switch, he pops out and it 416 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: is for Devin Booker. Rights, Yeah, great, So but when 417 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: I watched tape, it's the always what went wrong? Okay, 418 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: I have my own I'll give you my own thoughts 419 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: on it. But as a guy who's actually coached in 420 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: these games, uh, what went wrong for the for the Clippers, 421 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: Where's where's? How does the blame get spread? I can't 422 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: remember who was on the week side, but zoo Bach 423 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: was not. Nothing did not. Yeah, but but see Zobach. 424 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: See here's the deal, Doug. I had a rule in 425 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: my defense. You played for a great defensive coach. Screeners 426 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: man protects the lane. Okay, So now what makes it 427 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: difficult is the screener is Devin Booker. So if his 428 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: man backs off to take away the loomp and help 429 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: zoo Bach out, then Booker potentially catches it, shoots the 430 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: three right unless they switch out. I don't want to 431 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: make this complicated, but here's the deal. Sometimes the execution 432 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: of the play is so good that you know it's 433 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: a game of adjustments. You have a plan, I have 434 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: an adjustment, You have an adjustment to my adjustment. That's coaching. 435 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: I thought the execution of play was so good that 436 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: I can't really fall to defense, except there might have 437 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: been somebody on the weak side that could have stayed 438 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: in the lane, stayed home and tagged eight, and I 439 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: can't remember who it was. And uh, but I don't 440 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: really blame Zoobach. And it's a beautiful play because bookers 441 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: the decoy on the play or he's gonna end up 442 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: with the jump shot, So okay, I'm not I will 443 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: cast them. So the first mistake I think is go ahead, 444 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: but DeMarcus Cousins on the ball, all right, okay, because 445 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: everybody goes like, I need a big on the ball. 446 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: I need a big on the ball. Yeah, you need 447 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: a guy who acts big, right, Like, Okay, maybe you 448 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: don't want to use Daniel Oturo, who's actually longer, younger, 449 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: more athletic. That's fine. He Maybe you put Zoobach on 450 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: the ball, right because he's not like um. But whoever 451 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: is on the ball, I I in professional basketball, in 452 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: college basketball, definitely professional basketball. The rule is first three 453 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: seconds you're taking away you're jumping up and now you're 454 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: taking away the middle, and then Larry and you're taking 455 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: away corner. Right, yes, yes, so he did nothing. He 456 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: just stood there like somebody told me to stand here 457 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: a wave my arms. Um. So that happens a lot, 458 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: So that was that was a mistake. UM. I Also 459 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: I agree with you in that normally when you're on 460 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: that week side, you're worried about playing tag, but you 461 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: gotta one read to play. In two that play, the 462 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: out of bounds was so close to the corner, Like 463 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: that's almost outside of throwing to the out weak side corner. 464 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: That's almost an impossible path us to make. Again, if 465 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Cousins is taking away the middle, you shouldn't be 466 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: able to nearly have as good a sightline. But then 467 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: the obvious thing is like, why wouldn't you just switch 468 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: everything even if even if Booker catches it. It's not 469 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: like a normal switch where you can catch and you 470 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: know you have a mismatch with a big guy, you 471 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: should switch everything. And you know if he makes a 472 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: shot over her hand, he makes a shot over her 473 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: hands the NBA, But you can't give up a dunk 474 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: by not but by but tune not switching. The only 475 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: way I would disagree at the last part is the 476 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: switch at the end would have meant that DeAndre Atan 477 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: is still gonna catch that ball over the rim. And 478 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: then you're asking the switcher to know the rule. So 479 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: you're asking a switcher to be able to know the 480 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: rule and also get his hand over the rim. But 481 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: but but you meet I mean when like in the NBA, 482 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: like you you should meet him at the point of 483 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 1: the screen and thin, but he's gonna still fight. He's 484 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: still gonna get to the rim, I think on that 485 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: play up. So there was a ref though you and 486 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: I knew very very well. He's retired Steve Walmer, and 487 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: Walmer wouldn't he wouldn't call anything, but he would tell 488 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: you why other people call things. And I remember one 489 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: of the first games he didn't mind Whiles at Oaklhama State, 490 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: where you know, kind of a similar play where you 491 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: you knock it out of bounds and it could have 492 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: been off the other guy. But he's like, look, what 493 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: would you prefer me call you for a foul or 494 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: give them the ball? Right, And like that's the So 495 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I missed who it went out of bounds on, 496 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: but I also didn't call a foul. I'm going to 497 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: give him the ball. Um My issue with the Clippers. 498 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: The first thing is like Paul Paul George and he 499 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: didn't choke him right, he was a round and out 500 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: in the back rom You you can't run to the ball, 501 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: catch the ball, hold the ball to get foul and 502 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: miss both. You just can't. I just second part is 503 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: um the Mikhail Bridges shot. I don't know, did you 504 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: go by the sun four percent deal? Like my my 505 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: dad always at seventy four percent of the time it 506 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: comes off to the week side. They didn't bother I've 507 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: said that on TV. Yeah, it comes to ball, that 508 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: ball comes off seventy I used to say seventy at 509 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: the time the ball bounces the other side. Okay, yeah, 510 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: so two mistakes there by by by the Clippers. But 511 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: you're right, like we have this desire to get everything 512 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: perfectly right. And part of the beauty to sports is 513 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 1: it's not perfect. Yeah, it's an imperfect game, you know, 514 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: and the officials aren't perfect. And what we've done is 515 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: we've made it impossible for them to make a call 516 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: because who wants to be overturned by video replay? And 517 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: then they think you're an idiot, like I just see it, like, hey, 518 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: watching in real time, it's kind of hard, kind of hard. Yeah. Yeah, 519 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm in between on this because I do like monitor review, 520 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: but I don't like ten minutes at the monitor and 521 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: uh so. I just think some games, like the other 522 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: night with whatever it was, thirty two minutes to play 523 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: the last three minute. I don't know, um that that's 524 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: a little much. But I think overall, as a coach, 525 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: I want you to get the call right, use the monitor, 526 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: but let's not overdo it. And I think there are 527 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: times where we just go way overboard, and let's face it, 528 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: because of the pressure of what's involved in the NBA playoffs. 529 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: If they don't review a play that ends up being 530 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: the wrong call, then they get excoriated for it. So 531 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: I can't really blame the officials because this is part 532 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: of their job is to use the video replay monitor, 533 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: last last thing. And again, I know you're very busy. 534 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: I want to do the personal. What I really like 535 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: for this pot is telling your story. You're gonna get 536 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: to do the Olympics again, see um we we. I 537 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: think I think a lot of fans think that the 538 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: same teams are always going to provide the same level 539 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: of competition, but that's not really how it works. Right, 540 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: there was the run of the Argentinian teams where they 541 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: won the World championship. That that that group has. They're 542 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: now too old, right and the current group of Argentines 543 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: isn't as talented as as that group. There was the 544 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: Spaniards who were close and that group of Spaniards has 545 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: kind of aged out a little bit with Pale and 546 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: Marcosol and and and and Rick Rubrio another. So who 547 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: can beat us uh? Two teams? By the way, if 548 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: you're a USA fan, you're very happy this week because 549 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: of all the stars that have committed to play. So 550 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: that was a great uh surprise to me. Kudos to 551 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: Shawn Ford, the USA Basketball, the de facto GM for 552 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: getting all these guys to want to play in the 553 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: Olympics in a strange year. Doug, remember no fans okay um, 554 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: So who can beat us UH? France can beat us um. 555 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: They have a solid nucleus. Rudy Gobert obviously Fournier pretty 556 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: good player and and see what they have and what 557 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: Australia has that we will not have is culture and 558 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: chemistry because they have been together for a number of years. 559 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: So Australia can be eat us as well. And obviously 560 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons would help, but they have enough. They have 561 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: and they have they have enough chemistry and toughness. Both 562 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: of those teams can be very dangerous because in the Olympics, 563 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: in a forty minute game where you can actually play zone, 564 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: it's a different game than the NBA. But I would 565 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: say to the that point, USA has put together a 566 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: team of great offensive players, and I think that they're 567 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: gonna be hard to beat. I I think so too. 568 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: The French are interesting because, um, you know, they've done 569 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: better internationally, but they they've had some talent. I mean, 570 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, it bores d al and Tony Parker. They 571 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: never really won anything with that group. Interesting because they 572 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: should have been internationally much more competitive than they have 573 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: been previously. They'll be, But I really like the team 574 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: that they built because it does like I like that 575 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: you have Draymond. You gotta have a Draymond, you know, um, 576 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: I like that you have a Kevin Love. Right with 577 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Love, you lined up and said twelve best players 578 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: in the NBA with Kevin Loved. No, But again, this 579 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: game is different. And he can play center in in 580 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: your in Phoeba style basketball and be really really effective 581 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: and and he has been already for USA. Yes, Kevin 582 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: has already played USA, and and he fits that style, 583 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: so yes, yes, and and obviously there has to be 584 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: enough shooting, there has to be enough versatility defensively. Um, 585 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: you know it's gonna play center. You know it's gonna 586 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: play center. Who sometimes a lot A guy named Kevin Durant. 587 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: I've been I've been the guy the only thing not thick. 588 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: I've been the guy. Can he guard ruey Hotcha more? 589 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean unless you're playing 590 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: Yokich and there's no Bogan. My point is for the 591 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: USA team, when you put five guys out there, and 592 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is at the five and Draymond's at the four, 593 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: and you know whoever is at the three, two and one, 594 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: my point is, it really won't matter. They will be 595 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: able to guard any center in this tournament unless you plays, 596 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: which is still not out of the realm of possibility. 597 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna qualify without him Serbia, and then he'll have 598 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: three weeks to decide whether he wants to be on 599 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: the team, because right now he wants to rest. But no, 600 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: what my point is, it really wouldn't matter who USA 601 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: puts out there. They could play Draymond at the five. 602 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: They have firepower? Is it Kate Kenny? Would you would 603 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: you take anybody than Kate Kenny him? No? No, man, 604 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,719 Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Kate had to make me a believer 605 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: because I didn't go into the season saying, oh, he's 606 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: he's already number one. I I have like you have 607 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: because you love the Cowboys. I have seen so much 608 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: of him. He does so many inherently smart things that 609 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: you cannot coach. Someone coached it. He is unique. There 610 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: is a similarity between him and Luca in the sense 611 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: that they're big, strong point guards who make everybody better 612 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: and Doug. Here's the interesting thing about that. People say, well, 613 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: what's the difference. Luca proved he did it at seventeen 614 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: and eighteen against the second best players in the world. 615 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: Cade has only done it against twelve in college competition. 616 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna be a very good NBA player. 617 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: My my issue with Houston at two is, like I mean, 618 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Green is a freak athlete, and I think for 619 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: him the G League thing worked. It didn't work for 620 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: for a couple of for Dation Nix and some of 621 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: these other dudes right. Um, but I don't like Houston needs. 622 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: I feel like they need a jail and sucks. Even 623 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: if he's not the best prospect, he's the guy who 624 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: can as they rebuild that franchise. It's a guy who 625 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: can make everybody better. Um, if you're Houston, you know this. 626 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: You know these guys play better than I do. Where 627 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: do you go? Well? I would say this all five 628 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: of those guys that are scheduled to go in the 629 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: first round. And I don't know why people are dropping 630 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: Kameno out of this mix because I saw him three 631 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: weeks ago and he's a little raw, but he's He's 632 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: basically a six ft eight Kawhi Leonard in terms of 633 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: body type and some skill level. We can really shoot it. 634 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: If I'm Houston, I think the safest pick is is 635 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: Evan mobli Um because of the size, length and skill level. 636 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: You know. But Jalen Green to me, there's something about 637 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: him that tells me he's gonna be average at twenty 638 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: five points to game early in his career, and he's 639 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna do it over a long period of time. Jalen 640 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: sugs to me, I love him, man. He is mid 641 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: to late career Chauncey billips to me, a big two 642 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: way point guard could also play off the ball, could score. 643 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: I don't know who the best of those five is 644 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: gonna be. I honestly don't and they're all a little different. Yeah, 645 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: but that's why I agree with you on Green. But 646 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: my fear is that he becomes one of those empty 647 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: stats guys for Bradley Bill. Bradley Bill, Bradley Bill. But see, 648 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't think of his own whereas if you take 649 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: a Suggs, he may not be the player or the 650 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: score that the other two or that mobili is. But 651 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to have to build a 652 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: whole new team. I think he can help make everybody better. 653 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: That would be my I don't disagree, I think, but 654 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: I think. I don't disagree in a vacuum. But I 655 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: think these guys who know how to build teams. It's 656 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: three dimensional chess here. Who are free agents we can sign? Right? 657 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: Who are the guys on our team that we want 658 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: to keep? Christian Wood would be the logical one, you know, 659 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, guy that had a really good year. Um, 660 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: So it's not just yes, I agree, Jalen Suggs makes 661 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: everybody better. But I also think, like do what I want? 662 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: I have to evaluate. I don't take I don't take 663 00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: Jalen Green, and he turns out to be uh generational. 664 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: You know who knows? I mean, you know, I just 665 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: go back to slightly before your time. You know, right 666 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: about the time you were coming out of high school. 667 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: I think, right when you graduate fro high school. Okay, 668 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: So in ninety four, Big Dog was number one, rightfully 669 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: so a great player and a good NBA career, very 670 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 1: good NBA career. And number two was Jason Kidd. Number 671 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: three was grand Hill. So my point is, I'm really 672 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: not sure who's going to be the best of that group. 673 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 1: I think they all potentially could be the best player 674 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 1: in this draft, all five. You've been more than generous 675 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,720 Speaker 1: with your time. I thank you. I need I need. 676 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: I need a solid guarantee that we're going to do 677 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: the friend for schilla um My Life podcast. You got it. 678 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: We'll do it next time. Look forward to it. Thanks 679 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: so much for joining me. Thanks many. That that was 680 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: That was awesome for part one. He's promised a part two. 681 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: Quick note, there's a Josh paston part two the set 682 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: to come out. There's a Jamal Thomas Part two that's 683 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: starting to come out. You should go through the archives. 684 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: They're outstanding that. Um, I'm really proud of what we're 685 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: doing here with all Ball and Fran. Of course, as 686 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: you heard, he's committed to doing a second one, more 687 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: on him than on the current state of basketball, though 688 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: I do want to ask him about the state of 689 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: of college basketball. I'll just give you this thought though, 690 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: in terms of the reviews, I think the guys have 691 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: to go to a neutral corner. I think there has 692 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: to be no coaching. I think you need to obviously 693 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: need a time limit, but you can't do away with 694 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: the reviews. I think the best way to do so 695 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: is to remove them from any sort of proximity to 696 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: their coach. If your coaches on one side line, you 697 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: have to be on the opposite sideline, the opposite end 698 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 1: of the floor until the review is over. That way 699 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: you take away any idea of a time out. What 700 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 1: do you think? Pretty good? Right? All right, thanks for listening. 701 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: Make sure you check out the Doug Otlip Show daily 702 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: three or six eastern twelve three Pacific on the I 703 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Fox sport Trader dot com. 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