Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, what's up, Michelby Toe, what's up?
Speaker 2: Jordan Corlos? Oh my god, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: We gotta do it again.
Speaker 2: Hey everyone, this is adulting. By the way, Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for checking it. Listen, I was talking about
Speaker 2: you the other day, only good things, of course, because
Speaker 2: you know me, I'm gonna say it to your face.
Speaker 2: And my friend goes, why do you always say Jordan's
Speaker 2: last name when you talk about him? I was like,
Speaker 2: Jordan Carlos.
Speaker 1: Because it's a fun name. You have a fun name too,
Speaker 1: you know, Michellete, I think it's.
Speaker 2: Really fun to say last names. I think nicknames are
Speaker 2: really fun. And I'm just like, but there's other Jordan's.
Speaker 2: And she's like, ohh, I'm like sparked, like I couldn't
Speaker 2: even like there's other Jordans. And it's such a great
Speaker 2: name where it's like you could be any gender identity
Speaker 2: and still have this cool fucking name and that's dope,
Speaker 2: thank you. You know, like the one time I went
Speaker 2: to Aspen, it was just a bunch of little, rich
Speaker 2: white kids named Taylor.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Taylor, Bryce, Tate Musket.
Speaker 3: You know what, Listen, I know I know my worth,
Speaker 3: I know my name my name is fun because it's
Speaker 3: like it's like a Wan Pablo, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's just like, yes, Jordan Carlos, you know, yes, the
Speaker 3: emphasis can be on the second name. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Carlos.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like if you had a middle name that
Speaker 2: you use all the time, I think it would ruin
Speaker 2: it because it would just be giving ninety sitcom actor,
Speaker 2: Like it'd be too many things for us to like
Speaker 2: really try to separate you from the path.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Jonathan Taylor Thomas, is that
Speaker 1: what you're saying?
Speaker 2: So many like all of them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like do the work.
Speaker 3: I think if I had my brothers, which I do,
Speaker 3: I could actually take my mother's last name and do
Speaker 3: that nineties actor thing because that's Jordan Carlos Nelson.
Speaker 1: I mean, Jordan Carlos.
Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, that's giving like a day player on
Speaker 2: Stave by the Bell and giving Erkele's best friend for
Speaker 2: a three episode arc, like it's giving. I worked a lot,
Speaker 2: but no one ever knows who I am. But I'm
Speaker 2: still getting those checks even though I still work at
Speaker 2: Trader Joe's. I one hundred motherfucker percent am on board
Speaker 2: with adding your mom's last name when need be to
Speaker 2: tell people how long.
Speaker 1: You've been in the business.
Speaker 3: Due Jordan Carlos Salson's been in the business a long time.
Speaker 3: Was on a Moosia reboot which went nowhere on HBO Max,
Speaker 3: And I'm glad to say I did it.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm so glad you're celebrating it because I
Speaker 2: did fall asleep a little bit while you're telling me that.
Speaker 2: But I also need more naps. I do love my name.
Speaker 2: It is very hard for people because the last three
Speaker 2: letters are My last name is Eau, which is water
Speaker 2: in French, and people are still just like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck is this? And I'm like, legit named after my dad.
Speaker 2: His name is Michel Buteau, and so like I am
Speaker 2: a junior. I tak it's a beautiful name. But I
Speaker 2: do think he named me after him because he is
Speaker 2: bad with names. And what I try to do was
Speaker 2: like put my name into shit so people know how
Speaker 2: to say it. And so my first comedy special is
Speaker 2: called Welcome to Butopia. Yeah, but it only fucks people
Speaker 2: like people like fuck my last name up even more
Speaker 2: because it's like literally Buteau and then pa at the
Speaker 2: end and he put it. Oh on it. This is
Speaker 2: so boring. I'm actually like judging and falling asleep. Like
Speaker 2: if this conversation, if this chat was on Dancing with
Speaker 2: the Stars, it'd be like a two point two go back, Michelle.
Speaker 3: You're fun to talk to. This isn't like an episode
Speaker 3: of The Swans. All right, you can You're not boring me.
Speaker 3: We're not talking to Gloria Vanderbilt here.
Speaker 1: I love your name.
Speaker 2: H the Vanderbilt.
Speaker 3: You had this one Chateau Buteau, right, that was that
Speaker 3: was your first talk show.
Speaker 1: Let's go back.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, that was a pilot that never went through. Yeah,
Speaker 2: actually it was. I think it was like twelve years
Speaker 2: ago and I'm still waiting to hear for gets picked up.
Speaker 1: You work on that. We were kids speech one. It
Speaker 1: was crazy.
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I'm not a malcop, but I do
Speaker 2: have a segway. Oh god, there is no better segue
Speaker 2: to our guest for this episode. When you talk about
Speaker 2: what's in a name, when you talk about the feeling
Speaker 2: you get when you hear someone's name. You know, Vanessa Williams,
Speaker 2: who is a guess, is a fucking Black History Americana
Speaker 2: royal tay.
Speaker 1: She's so cool.
Speaker 2: She came to slummit with us in Barrooklyn, you know,
Speaker 2: just to see what the peoples are doing on the
Speaker 2: other side. And not only does she come, she brought
Speaker 2: her daughter, Lion Babe. I say lion Babe aka Julian.
Speaker 2: Her name is Julian Herbie, but like you know, I
Speaker 2: know her as Lion Babe, and I'm just like, this
Speaker 2: is such a beautiful relationship and thing to witness where
Speaker 2: you live your dream and you pass that seat on
Speaker 2: of determination and creativity to your offspring, and it's.
Speaker 1: Just like, oh fuck, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: This is what not only America should be, but life
Speaker 2: should be. And so y'all are gonna enjoy this episode, honey,
Speaker 2: this episode should be called black Girl megic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, get into it.
Speaker 3: Please give it a for Vanessa Williams and Jillian her Day.
Speaker 1: Good lord, Oh.
Speaker 2: Come on, I like that. I like that like Zoomba
Speaker 2: warm up. Can I get it one more time?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there we go, There we.
Speaker 3: Go, and one and answered it is happening.
Speaker 5: Then five more, everybody?
Speaker 1: Why do they always want five more? Fuck them?
Speaker 2: I don't like when trainers lie to me. They're looking
Speaker 2: at my face. Two more, two more, I'm like, stop it.
Speaker 1: They lose count, they lose count.
Speaker 2: Can I tell you the last male trainer I had,
Speaker 2: he was like, you're good? Isn't good enough? And this
Speaker 2: was the warm up and so just like tears came
Speaker 2: to my eyes as if I farted, like by accident,
Speaker 2: you know. It was just like I couldn't even control it,
Speaker 2: and I just go, I have to go, And I
Speaker 2: ran away and never looked back. And I have a
Speaker 2: female trainer and it feels good.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've seen. But if it was such a.
Speaker 2: Weird reaction I had because I was like, oh, this
Speaker 2: is like you're the penut allergy. I was like, I
Speaker 2: cannot listen to a man yell at me and tell
Speaker 2: me what's good enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I only do. I only do female trainers
Speaker 1: like online.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's creepy.
Speaker 1: Why why is it okay?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 3: No, they're much better. They're just like they're like, you listen,
Speaker 3: you can. Male trainers are like you're more exactly what
Speaker 3: you're saying. They're like, come on, fucking sweat, let's go,
Speaker 3: let's get intense. And I'm like if not, I'm look
Speaker 3: maybe not, you know what I'm saying like maybe it's
Speaker 3: just a medium intensity would be would be nice for.
Speaker 2: Me, Like a medium intent, let me push myself, let
Speaker 2: me do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need like a deeply personal trainer. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Oh, like if I'm gonna have yeah, I want no, just.
Speaker 1: Like a personal trainer is like you're stronger than your dad.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like.
Speaker 3: Deeply personal. No one looks at your scars, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like it's like like they'll be like, oh, oh my god.
Speaker 7: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've got you guys have like
Speaker 2: seen Jordan on Instagram, but he is out here doing
Speaker 2: this is a kick, like a fucking.
Speaker 1: I have to.
Speaker 3: I have to beat the algorithm and like be like,
Speaker 3: you know, these are things I can do.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Wife is not complaining, So
Speaker 1: that's good, that's okay.
Speaker 2: I can't complain.
Speaker 1: You can complain. I'm sorry sorry.
Speaker 2: That you guys know, I appreciate that you stretch like
Speaker 2: you stretch and you take care of your body. There
Speaker 2: is this video where you like looked at the cameras
Speaker 2: to be like it's almost like Shanaya twins like what
Speaker 2: you ready, girl, Let's go, and I'm like they start,
Speaker 2: this is my final form. This is who I am now,
Speaker 2: this is this is it.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I like who likes to work out? Does anybody like
Speaker 3: to work out? In this audience? Fucking too? I love it?
Speaker 3: Does anybody have a gym crush at all? Anybody got
Speaker 3: a gym crush?
Speaker 2: Well, there's people that like to work out, and I
Speaker 2: don't feel like I know people are going to Jim's
Speaker 2: a nasty That's like I'd rather be on a fucking school.
Speaker 1: I do it all in my basement. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't go like.
Speaker 2: Female trainers, only in your basement.
Speaker 5: It gets better, it gets better.
Speaker 1: They're good.
Speaker 3: They're the only ones that do like kettlebell training and not.
Speaker 3: Who would you rather have like a kettible trainer that's
Speaker 3: just like telling you how to do the motions and
Speaker 3: it's fine, or a guy that looks like you don't
Speaker 3: know his whereabouts on January sixth? You know what I'm saying, Like, yes,
Speaker 3: teaching you how to do it. I would I have
Speaker 3: the former than the latter, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: So people just got to look and they're good at
Speaker 2: different things, So I feel you on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't always post exercise, though I do it once
Speaker 2: in a while just to let people know. Hey, big
Speaker 2: people move their bodies and so can you. Yes, but
Speaker 2: it's never like you never looked at you. You've read
Speaker 2: as the camera, no listen.
Speaker 3: I was always inspired by Shania Twins Feel like a
Speaker 3: Woman video, and I'm just trying to emulate that, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, So bring that energy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: I can tell you this, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Because it's a safe space. It's just us and friends.
Speaker 2: All my friends feel like the cousin that have like
Speaker 2: a fucking job right now, which is very nice, right right.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad we can hang out and do this.
Speaker 1: Thank you, And.
Speaker 3: I'm glad what's happening right now. I'm glad we can
Speaker 3: do this too, you know, I'm glad we.
Speaker 1: I think my edible just kicked in, all right, and
Speaker 1: I'm happy.
Speaker 3: You know that moment when your edible kicks in and
Speaker 3: you're like everything's okay, You're like no, no, you took
Speaker 3: an edible half an hour ago. You're fine, Yeah, but
Speaker 3: you took an editle like I just saw you for
Speaker 3: a minute, I know.
Speaker 1: I was like and everything slipped away. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's your friend. Yeah, but that's your friend over there.
Speaker 2: You always high and it's wonderful, it's pretty great. I
Speaker 2: can hower you not high?
Speaker 4: Hi?
Speaker 3: Have you lived in twenty twenty four before? I fucking
Speaker 3: get up? And I'm like, bump, like fucking nope, no, skips.
Speaker 5: Just don't you like ever do too much?
Speaker 1: Though? Do I ever do too much? No?
Speaker 3: I went through life on coffee and just angst, and
Speaker 3: I was like, we're gonna change this up. And after
Speaker 3: like after COVID, I was just like, I gotta fucking
Speaker 3: I gotta be more happy. And I tried meditation, I
Speaker 3: tried exercise all kind of things, and it wasn't working.
Speaker 3: And it was like, hey, buddy, Thg's right here, and like,
Speaker 3: as a forty five year old guy, I can I
Speaker 3: know what to do?
Speaker 1: You know how to do? Why is therebody? It doesn't
Speaker 1: they're taking They're like they're like, what he's forty five?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I know how to tight tray and just make sure
Speaker 1: I get the right amount.
Speaker 3: Who's been in therapy? My fuckers trade who's on their meds?
Speaker 3: All right, like like, I know titration, what's up?
Speaker 1: What's going on?
Speaker 2: Make some noise.
Speaker 1: If y'all have edibles, do you have them on you
Speaker 1: right now? Make some noise.
Speaker 2: Make some noise. If you take an edible every day,
Speaker 2: Make some noise. If you take a edible after five
Speaker 2: pm every day, make some noise. If you just take
Speaker 2: edibles on the weekends, make some noise. If you do
Speaker 2: a drug besides weed, make some noise if it's ketamine.
Speaker 1: We're learning so much about this.
Speaker 8: We are.
Speaker 3: Some of you are total squares. You're like I read,
Speaker 3: I got that, Christie and then go to bed. But
Speaker 3: some of you have fun and I like that. Some
Speaker 3: of you just go down okay holes. Let's go okay. Well,
Speaker 3: speaking of fun, Yeah, speaking of fun, we have a
Speaker 3: lot of fun in store for you. Our next two guests. Yes, yes,
Speaker 3: are a mother and daughter combo all right, Black.
Speaker 2: History royalty, y'all, Black collegood royalty, everybody, Yes, Broadway, Oh, films, Yeah,
Speaker 2: CV music, all that iconique, iconique. You do it. You
Speaker 2: do it. You're nice and high.
Speaker 1: You do it. No, I can't. I'm high.
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be doing I want you to do it.
Speaker 3: I trust you, all right, please give it up for
Speaker 3: two o two gems, got it? You got legends two
Speaker 3: gyms already, yep. I mean'm on, y'all, please give it
Speaker 3: up for the one and only Vanessa Williams and you.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh my god, get that drink, Get
Speaker 3: that drink?
Speaker 1: Black History Month? Am I seeing double? Right now? Am
Speaker 1: I seeing double? What is going on?
Speaker 9: This is?
Speaker 6: This is my middle daughter, This is your middle number
Speaker 6: two out of four four four.
Speaker 2: Oh my good.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a little different because I'm with my
Speaker 4: mom tonight, just so everyone knows. Sorry, it'll be like
Speaker 4: as good as I can.
Speaker 1: But your mom is so cool. No, she's really cool.
Speaker 4: But she makes me nervous also, so I only should
Speaker 4: make all of you nervous as well.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I was in the green room and then she walked
Speaker 3: in and I was like, yeah, I was like your shirt.
Speaker 2: You know, this is what I love about your mom, right,
Speaker 2: she looks through your soul in the best way possible,
Speaker 2: and it's like you can do better?
Speaker 8: Do it?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like be your best no judgment, no judgement, no judgment,
Speaker 6: but it's just wisdom.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's.
Speaker 2: What I love and I love that you guys are
Speaker 2: like excited to work, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like you love what you do. Yeah, that's the work
Speaker 6: ethic that's been passed down. Both my parents are music teachers.
Speaker 6: They met in college. Uh, and they just did it,
Speaker 6: you know, and they showed up. And that's the one thing.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sixty years old and people I always
Speaker 6: have live.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But you know, every I get the question like
Speaker 6: how do you have longevity in this business? And one
Speaker 6: is showing up on time, knowing your shit, being.
Speaker 2: Great at what you are hired to do, and then.
Speaker 1: Why are you.
Speaker 9: Showing the fuck up when you're going to after multiple
Speaker 9: emails shortened thank you?
Speaker 6: And then and then also being creative like in every
Speaker 6: possible way when you know as a woman, now that
Speaker 6: you're in the business and you can partake in every
Speaker 6: aspect of you know, for instance, we work together and
Speaker 6: First Wives Club, so now you know, like, yes, it's amazing,
Speaker 6: but but you know you have the knowledge now, like
Speaker 6: you know we can get this in a two shot.
Speaker 2: How about you know you can speak because you know
Speaker 2: what you're talking about.
Speaker 6: You have to be afraid of your power because it's
Speaker 6: recognized and the wisdom that you have now you're able
Speaker 6: to feel good about and free about.
Speaker 2: And no one ever tells you to take your space,
Speaker 2: take up your space. It's always like, no, your shit
Speaker 2: and be polite. But sometimes you can just say something
Speaker 2: like it could be like we could do this better,
Speaker 2: or whatever kind of comment it is, and people are
Speaker 2: just like, oh, here she goes again. But like, honestly,
Speaker 2: you know, the minute I stopped apologizing, even just before
Speaker 2: I said something frivolous, I'm sorry, guys, like I'm walking
Speaker 2: like a different woman. You know, taking up your space
Speaker 2: is so important now as a mothers though we had
Speaker 2: to earn that. I mean, you could not speak. Yeah
Speaker 2: you know again. Yeah, I won Miss American in eighty three.
Speaker 2: I've been working. I remember how sorry.
Speaker 6: Hit.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in Atlantic City, but I was there.
Speaker 3: I remember, yeah, yeah, I yeah.
Speaker 6: But you know, in the eighties nineties, you weren't allowed
Speaker 6: to take your space.
Speaker 1: You were told what you did.
Speaker 6: And yeah, I hear, yeah, and you had to play
Speaker 6: by the rules and even you know, all the assaults
Speaker 6: and the microaggressions that we had to eat and swallow
Speaker 6: because it was you get fired or you know, you know, I.
Speaker 1: I guess he's dead now, so I can say I.
Speaker 6: One of my first jobs was in a sitcom and
Speaker 6: it was going to be on the Red Fox show.
Speaker 6: He had a series, and I was playing a waitress
Speaker 6: in Sindbad was also you know, so me and Sinbad
Speaker 6: were part of the weekly thing and we do our
Speaker 6: rehearsals and then everybody would disappear, and he would show
Speaker 6: up and kind of start talking to me, and I
Speaker 6: was like, where is everybody? And I remember one time
Speaker 6: he was like looking at me, It's like, m I
Speaker 6: sucked the ear wax out of your ear. And I
Speaker 6: was like, where is everybody? And I was like, okay,
Speaker 6: this is this is obviously something that was allowed to happen.
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, he's yeah, I want to suck the
Speaker 1: air wax that you discussing.
Speaker 6: This is after Sandford, This was his own.
Speaker 1: This is probably eighty five eighty six. Yeah.
Speaker 6: He also said like, you got hair in your chin
Speaker 6: like a white girl. I was like, huh yes. I
Speaker 6: was like, it's not funny and you're creeping me out.
Speaker 6: And I called my manager and it said.
Speaker 10: Sorry, it's really disturbing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and I and I said I
Speaker 6: don't feel comfortable and I want to get off, and
Speaker 6: I got off after one episode, even though it was
Speaker 6: like getting a gig on a show, But you know,
Speaker 6: I didn't like there was no lawsuit. I wasn't going
Speaker 6: to go public with it. And we're talking this is,
Speaker 6: you know, obviously thirty five years later or more than that.
Speaker 6: But you swallowed it.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: So the right that you have now to take your
Speaker 6: space and to be listened to is something that you know,
Speaker 6: Diane Carrol helped you and you can't help do.
Speaker 2: I don't take it for granted. You know, Horn helped you.
Speaker 2: Just you know, I don't take it for granted. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one bit, because when especially people younger than me, complain
Speaker 2: about all the injustices, I'm like, just remember that the
Speaker 2: needle is still moving. Because ask your mom what she
Speaker 2: had to go through.
Speaker 6: I was loved and very secure, but my mother was
Speaker 6: the wise not the wise one. My dad was the nicest, warmest, loveliest,
Speaker 6: most optimistic man on the planet. My mother was like,
Speaker 6: watch that person, watch your watch your purse, you know,
Speaker 6: where's your sweater, where's your you know, make sure you
Speaker 6: have money because if you get caught, you're gonna need
Speaker 6: a quarter to get on you get payphoned. She was
Speaker 6: always that lord.
Speaker 2: But she was always like, met are dogs? Met are dogs?
Speaker 6: And she told me like, never take nude pictures. Of
Speaker 6: course that I listened to her, no, but but but
Speaker 6: she was like she was always kind of like protecting
Speaker 6: me from what I didn't know, you know, because I
Speaker 6: was never like you're a princess, Oh you're so beautiful.
Speaker 6: I was just, you know, I bowed the lawn. I
Speaker 6: had to do chores, I baby said. I was working,
Speaker 6: you know, from ten years old on in the neighborhood,
Speaker 6: like we all did, you know, to make to make
Speaker 6: our money.
Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah, and buy my ten Steed bike by myself.
Speaker 2: And is that what your.
Speaker 1: Mom does for you?
Speaker 10: I did not mow the lawn now.
Speaker 2: It's too much bigger lawn.
Speaker 1: By the way, you need.
Speaker 5: We got a couple of eggs.
Speaker 1: Oh do you need the list?
Speaker 2: Okay, well we can't get it out truly, Like you.
Speaker 10: Grew up in the business, I did, I mean I didn't.
Speaker 10: I didn't.
Speaker 4: I think growing up in Westchester, New York. Shout out
Speaker 4: to Washington, anyone, look Westchester.
Speaker 10: It's not upstate.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: We call it that but anyway, well we're called Yonkers upstate.
Speaker 1: New York updates.
Speaker 4: Anyway, there was was you know, it was a different experience.
Speaker 4: But it also I had such great examples of people
Speaker 4: that led lives as artists. So I think that's why
Speaker 4: it's been so easy for me to fall into what
Speaker 4: I do, because I've had hard working artists in my
Speaker 4: life and set that precedent for me. But I do
Speaker 4: think my mom, if anything, if she gave me any
Speaker 4: of the gaga basically our grandma's called gagah, she's og
Speaker 4: gaga before. Yes, But like you know, in eighth grade,
Speaker 4: I remember my mom. We had intercom at the time
Speaker 4: in the house and she intercom me to come into
Speaker 4: her room and she had articles printed out, staples and
Speaker 4: everything about blowjobs, gonorrhea, all of.
Speaker 10: It, and sat me down and scared.
Speaker 2: The living crap out of me. Ta literally like imagine
Speaker 2: this was.
Speaker 4: Pre will Wilhelmina Slater, but this was Wilhelmina Slater waiting
Speaker 4: for me to talk to me about blowjobs.
Speaker 5: And wells e.
Speaker 8: Death.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, blow jobs and death sounds like a real
Speaker 1: best seller, but.
Speaker 5: But you had.
Speaker 2: I will never forget that day.
Speaker 4: It was a real scary tactic, but you know, I
Speaker 4: think it was it was necessary because I was so
Speaker 4: in love with my boyfriend at.
Speaker 10: The time and all this stuff, you know. But no,
Speaker 10: I think I had a.
Speaker 4: Great combination of kind of like the hard ass, be
Speaker 4: a little scared of her, but then she also was like,
Speaker 4: be free, trust herself, and I go.
Speaker 3: With your gut.
Speaker 6: And she took me hard work talking about worth work
Speaker 6: ethic because they were backstage when I did Kiss of
Speaker 6: the Spy Woman on Broadway. The recording they've been the
Speaker 6: recording studio. They so they've been on set, so they
Speaker 6: know the hours, they know the preparation. So when she
Speaker 6: got into the business and started recording, she knew that
Speaker 6: it took.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of time.
Speaker 3: What's your what's your first memory of that? What's your
Speaker 3: first memory of like, okay, being in the in the
Speaker 3: realm of entertainment.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I have a specific memory, but
Speaker 4: I do remember like sets, and I remember recording studios,
Speaker 4: like cold recording studios with a lot of leather and
Speaker 4: just sitting there like what am I doing? Always making
Speaker 4: friends with like the engineers or the pas or you know, whoever,
Speaker 4: the people are just running around. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: also sitting in the trailer whatever trailer we were in
Speaker 4: for a long time until Charles Luther Vandros, which was awesome.
Speaker 9: God.
Speaker 4: Yes, And at the time it was a whole family affair,
Speaker 4: like my my uncle was doing the opening comedy stand
Speaker 4: up bid and my mom's best friend.
Speaker 10: Was doing Chris Williams.
Speaker 2: Check him out, He's amazing.
Speaker 3: I've been in a commercial with Chris Williams. I've been
Speaker 3: a commercial, yes, with your brother. Yeah, And I've been
Speaker 3: waiting to.
Speaker 1: Tell you we're so.
Speaker 2: I was here is crazy Eyes killer and uh and
Speaker 2: oh my god, let me find out. So the story
Speaker 2: you just told has is really taken me back because
Speaker 2: as a working mother, as a multi hyphen it, as
Speaker 2: you know, as a life's good at tax payer and
Speaker 2: I have five year old twins, I'm realizing that there
Speaker 2: is no balance, you know, the I just do what
Speaker 2: I can when I can.
Speaker 8: And so.
Speaker 2: Did you ever feel that guilt? Did you ever say,
Speaker 2: like I can't make your play, I can't you know,
Speaker 2: take you to whatever? And you have a kid now too,
Speaker 2: Like how did you navigate like getting another job that's
Speaker 2: really gonna just you have to put your heart and
Speaker 2: soul into it, right. Yeah, And how do you give
Speaker 2: your heart and soul to your kid like you have
Speaker 2: to make a living too?
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the biggest, the biggest feet I did
Speaker 6: was your confirmation.
Speaker 2: When I had a gig in Japan.
Speaker 6: I was at the Blue Note and I had I
Speaker 6: was in Osaka and I had six shows in Osaka,
Speaker 6: flew to Tokyo, flew to New York, arrived the morning
Speaker 6: that Saturday morning of your your confirmation at church through
Speaker 6: a party, got back on a plane on Sunday, went
Speaker 6: to direct to Tokyo and then had did ten shows
Speaker 6: in Tokyo.
Speaker 2: That was like the most epic journey I've ever done for.
Speaker 1: Any of my kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But take that Taylor swipe. Yeah and it was commercial. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just love.
Speaker 2: No shade to Taylor.
Speaker 1: But we love you, Taylor, We love you.
Speaker 3: Please.
Speaker 6: We can't talk about politics here, well we all know them.
Speaker 6: But I think we we as mothers, we always feel guilt.
Speaker 6: It doesn't even if we're in the in town and
Speaker 6: five minutes late, we will always feel guilt. So you
Speaker 6: gotta let that go and know that you did the
Speaker 6: best that you can or you're doing the best that
Speaker 6: you can. And they they they're, oh my gosh, what
Speaker 6: is happening today?
Speaker 2: Being the mom is hard?
Speaker 1: Bitch. I'm on fifteen miligrams. I am gone.
Speaker 2: That guilt? Will you the fuck alive?
Speaker 1: Shit?
Speaker 2: That might be a boalding introver by the time. Fucking
Speaker 2: this is your end?
Speaker 1: Shit, Jillian?
Speaker 8: Can I know?
Speaker 3: Can I learn about your processed songwriting process? I want
Speaker 3: to know what you know, what blows your hair back?
Speaker 1: What makes you He's from Texas? You're like, sorry, do
Speaker 1: you like to?
Speaker 2: This is what he calls biting around the cookie. It's
Speaker 2: a lie.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. That's one dog that won't hunt.
Speaker 2: Now, all right, come on, what is my okay?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 4: I started out as a dancer. I was dancing. I
Speaker 4: wanted to be a dancer. I loved Alvin Allie like
Speaker 4: I wanted to just be like a legendary black body
Speaker 4: giving life and experiencing life through dance. And I still
Speaker 4: do that, but singing became kind of like an afterthought
Speaker 4: after I just got my confidence on stage and performing.
Speaker 4: So ever since then, I've always tried to write music
Speaker 4: about this kind of higher self and this feminine power
Speaker 4: and just empowering women and feeling like own it, do it.
Speaker 4: So sometimes the messages are things that I need to
Speaker 4: hear myself. Sometimes there's things that I've experienced and I
Speaker 4: want to share. And at this point, I am a mom.
Speaker 4: I have a two year old, so thank you.
Speaker 2: And I feel like.
Speaker 4: Because time has just taken a whole like curveball crash
Speaker 4: into a wall, and I have no time to do
Speaker 4: anything that when I go in it's really like I
Speaker 4: have to I have to focus, I have to get
Speaker 4: the critic out of my head. I have to not
Speaker 4: dwell in like the whole process and just go in
Speaker 4: and have fun. So with that, weirdly we are in
Speaker 4: house music right now. We're just like it's you know,
Speaker 4: like I think when you're home and you're watching like
Speaker 4: Almo on repeat, or you're trying to like calm yourself
Speaker 4: down and light candles and drink tea.
Speaker 10: When you do go to record, you just want to
Speaker 10: turn up.
Speaker 2: So I think of like the whole other.
Speaker 4: Paradox of my life that happened that I don't experience
Speaker 4: as much, So I'm trying to find that through dance.
Speaker 4: So it's it's really like just fine, like don't care
Speaker 4: too much it's like make a song and keep them
Speaker 4: a bit right.
Speaker 2: That's why I am. I love when it gets sloppy sometimes,
Speaker 2: I mean sloppy in like a constructive way. Has there
Speaker 2: ever been a show, a live show where you're just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: that went wrong, that went wrong.
Speaker 5: Still going wrong, still a show still here?
Speaker 2: Like what is the craziest live show moment? If you
Speaker 2: probably Broadway?
Speaker 6: When I was doing Kiss the Spider Woman and uh,
Speaker 6: top of act two and I played this Russian woman
Speaker 6: and it's very dramatic, gonna have good times and I'm
Speaker 6: doing this whole piece and I'm supposed to get shot
Speaker 6: and it didn't go off, and the phone rang and
Speaker 6: it was kind of like suspended it air and like
Speaker 6: what do I do? And it was just like everything.
Speaker 6: When someone coughed some one time, it was so loud
Speaker 6: that we broke because it was like.
Speaker 1: We looked to how do like you know?
Speaker 2: So those one time? And Kiss the Spiderman again.
Speaker 6: It was it was a hot show and the two
Speaker 6: a couple in the back in the standing room were
Speaker 6: actually doing it and what kicked it?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, the ushers were ushers told us like literally guy
Speaker 6: was behind she looked out of her skirt.
Speaker 2: They were like, it was crazy. This is ninety four
Speaker 2: ninety five. It was you know, I said I was sorry,
Speaker 2: So some wild.
Speaker 5: Stuff happened in amazing.
Speaker 1: That's amazing, Peter.
Speaker 10: Our kids are notoriously naughty, right, like is it?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: I'm not a theater kid.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I not a dancing in the bathroom mirrorm.
Speaker 1: On babes and what's it called babes and arms. I
Speaker 1: may have worked the lights, you know, so to speak. No,
Speaker 1: so I know that life. I was a techie. I
Speaker 1: were all black, and I made out with the young
Speaker 1: lady once.
Speaker 4: Uh and.
Speaker 1: During during dress rehearsal. During dress rehearsal, it was a pretty.
Speaker 2: Pretty naughty.
Speaker 1: What about you, Jillian? What about you? Have you ever
Speaker 1: had a crazy moment moment on stage?
Speaker 4: I think it was my first south By Southwest I
Speaker 4: at the time this was pre working with him, but
Speaker 4: Childish Gambino at the time was like, come open for us,
Speaker 4: like I'm into you.
Speaker 2: Oh, And I was so new. We hadn't done many.
Speaker 4: Performances at all, but we're gonna say yes like this too.
Speaker 4: It We were just signed, so I didn't even have
Speaker 4: in ears like I didn't know what to do when
Speaker 4: you're on stage any of this.
Speaker 2: So I go on and perform, but.
Speaker 4: I realized that the sound basically they could hear me,
Speaker 4: but like they couldn't.
Speaker 10: Hear the whole sound.
Speaker 4: So I was like doing all my moves and like
Speaker 4: being really weird, and they just were like, oh, some
Speaker 4: girl like who did a bunch of like weird yoga open.
Speaker 2: No, like in my ears, they sound great.
Speaker 5: I didn't know.
Speaker 4: It's never went into the house. So I was like,
Speaker 4: you know, they figured it out by like the last song,
Speaker 4: but yeah, it was. There was one of those moments.
Speaker 10: That I was like, what, like, yeah, so I don't
Speaker 10: know it and it didn't hurt me in the end,
Speaker 10: but it was. It was definitely memorable.
Speaker 2: Now when I was I'm doing New York Comedy Festival
Speaker 2: in town Hall. It's so funny, this lady's here. I
Speaker 2: danced to Janet Jackson's for the Nation at one point
Speaker 2: because I don't know who I am. I'm the only child.
Speaker 2: I just love hugging people. You're all my family, and
Speaker 2: I guess there was something about the lights or something.
Speaker 2: I thought this person was having a seizure and so
Speaker 2: I just stopped, the show, cut the house lights on.
Speaker 2: I was like, can someone please come get this person
Speaker 2: make sure they're okay. I don't want to touch them,
Speaker 2: soone should touch them and give her a book and yeah,
Speaker 2: And this lady in the front was like that was
Speaker 2: my friend. And I'm like, oh shit, she okay. This
Speaker 2: was like two or three years ago. And she was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: she was too high. And I'm like, okay, figure out
Speaker 2: the dosage. If you're sitting in the front, that is
Speaker 2: the moral of the story. That is the moral of
Speaker 2: the story. We have to get to questions, but the
Speaker 2: amount of life lived and memories made and knowledge and
Speaker 2: also path set. The question really is like how do
Speaker 2: you feel about the state of the world right now?
Speaker 2: But mainly like why do you like why? I was
Speaker 2: trying to tell people that the arts are so important,
Speaker 2: but why do you guys believe the arts are important?
Speaker 2: Especially with I don't know who's going to win this election.
Speaker 2: I don't know what people are doing in the South
Speaker 2: and other areas.
Speaker 5: The fuck did I do?
Speaker 2: I'm one of the good ones, I know, because you're
Speaker 2: pay New York taxes, But like, yeah, like just why
Speaker 2: do you think it's so important?
Speaker 1: To do what you guys do.
Speaker 2: Well not I'll let you talk about the arts.
Speaker 6: But you know, going back in our family history, I
Speaker 6: did a show called who Do You Think You Are?
Speaker 6: And they got a chance to uncover two of my
Speaker 6: great great grandfathers and one was born in Cole Spring
Speaker 6: Harbor near Oyster Bay in eighteen forty two. Married a
Speaker 6: white woman in eighteen sixty five. This is one hundred
Speaker 6: years before the Civil rights movement in the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 6: Of course her parents she was from Wales. Her parents
Speaker 6: disowned her because she married a free man of color.
Speaker 6: They ended up having a bunch of kids. He went
Speaker 6: and fought for Troop twenty six here in Queens and
Speaker 6: with down to Buford, South Carolina, which is close to Trust.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, and good grit. But he was there as
Speaker 1: a Union soldier to make sure that you know, our
Speaker 1: freedom was you know.
Speaker 2: So it was there for a while.
Speaker 6: And then one hundred years later, my parents have me
Speaker 6: at nineteen sixty three when Kennedy is shot and MLK
Speaker 6: is shot. Years later, you know, a few years later,
Speaker 6: those hundred years of my family, you look back and think,
Speaker 6: oh my god, the racism, how do we get through it?
Speaker 2: Everybody got through it. Everybody got through their.
Speaker 6: Time, through what they chose to do and had the
Speaker 6: braver encourage to get through it and made life work.
Speaker 6: So I think we'll be able to get through whatever happens.
Speaker 6: And I'm not guarantee, you have no idea what's going
Speaker 6: to happen, but we'll get through it and we have
Speaker 6: we have to.
Speaker 1: I believe you because staring into your eyes is like
Speaker 1: looking into the sea, and.
Speaker 2: And I really believe it.
Speaker 5: I buy it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rest easy tonight. Vanessa Williams who has.
Speaker 3: The Mediterranean in her eyes, and it's like, you're gonna
Speaker 3: make a kid like fine, I'm fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have right.
Speaker 1: You have to have faith, good encourage to get through it,
Speaker 1: to speak up and to move on.
Speaker 3: Well, I think I think you know you're right. Some
Speaker 3: rights are you're born with and some you fight for.
Speaker 3: And it's like, and we cannot, we can. We have
Speaker 3: to keep fighting for what we what we deserve, what
Speaker 3: we want, what we're owed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And that's those human rights. Obama, I know that was
Speaker 3: I was quoting doctor King there. I was like, I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna just I'm gonna just pretend like
Speaker 3: I made that up. But yeah, he would say that
Speaker 3: some rights, uh are inherent, they're inalienable.
Speaker 1: Rights that that you are.
Speaker 7: I tell my daughters all the time, sociable, Some rights
Speaker 7: you're born with and some you fight for. Fired up,
Speaker 7: Ready to go?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have questions from the audience. Would you guys
Speaker 2: like to help us answer them?
Speaker 9: Sure?
Speaker 2: All right, this is from Elsa. Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for your name. Elsay's right here. What's the best advice
Speaker 2: for dating in your twenties and prioritizing yourself?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 6: I heard don't do it right here to Well, I
Speaker 6: got married at twenty three, so but again I know
Speaker 6: that was in nineteen eighty seven. I had my first
Speaker 6: kid in nineteen eighty seven eighty nine, so I was
Speaker 6: twenty four, twenty six, thirty and thirty seven when I
Speaker 6: had all my kids.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but I did it because I could control that.
Speaker 6: I couldn't control my career, I couldn't control what people
Speaker 6: would or would not give me opportunities, but I could
Speaker 6: control my life in terms.
Speaker 2: Of my family. So I said, I'm going to make
Speaker 2: my family.
Speaker 6: And my husband at the time was thirteen years older
Speaker 6: than me, so he had already established himself. He was
Speaker 6: actually the one who was my publicist to helped me
Speaker 6: through all of my resignation and all that stuff when
Speaker 6: I was twenty one years old. Of course, my parents
Speaker 6: didn't want me to get married or date anybody who
Speaker 6: was thirteen years older when I was twenty one. But
Speaker 6: whatever my mom said do, I said, I will not
Speaker 6: or you know, so you know I was. I was
Speaker 6: that check that was very rebellious and got married to
Speaker 6: twenty three. But I don't regret a single day. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's my twenty year old stories. I didn't date and
Speaker 6: I didn't date you what's yours?
Speaker 5: That was not my.
Speaker 2: Mom, No, mine is like so much more boring.
Speaker 4: Like I am, I meet someone and I'm like they're amazing,
Speaker 4: and I just stay with them forever until it falls apart,
Speaker 4: and then I find the next person. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: we're just I'm not looking for that, and then it's that.
Speaker 4: So it's been three people, Like it's it's very minimal.
Speaker 4: It's very boring.
Speaker 10: Don't do what I did.
Speaker 4: Live your life, because then there'll be a moment where
Speaker 4: you're like, wait, I need to do that thing. So
Speaker 4: but I have to say, no matter what, the men
Speaker 4: in my life have been really supportive of me, and
Speaker 4: I think that's what you always want to strive for
Speaker 4: as someone that's not trying to diminish your light or
Speaker 4: change you. They want to really just be part of
Speaker 4: the growth. But they also need to grow themselves and
Speaker 4: they need to know that that has nothing to do
Speaker 4: with you.
Speaker 1: So that okay, okay, this is what this one is
Speaker 1: addressed Legendary Vanessa.
Speaker 10: Full name.
Speaker 3: What is your favorite memory of hanging with Trixy Mattel Tricksey. Separately,
Speaker 3: is there a song? And this is very this is
Speaker 3: a penetrating question. Separately, is there a song in your
Speaker 3: career that got away?
Speaker 1: Xo XO seth Okay, I guess so.
Speaker 6: Tricksie and I did a show called Queen of the Universe.
Speaker 6: It was a drag queen singing competition on Paramount Plus
Speaker 6: for two seasons. We did not get renewed like you did,
Speaker 6: but we had a lovely time and I've got new
Speaker 6: music coming out and she's featured on my song called
Speaker 6: Bob you know, because kids need a big old bop,
Speaker 6: so it's coming. And the song that got Away, there
Speaker 6: was no song that, well, I think you're probably to
Speaker 6: prince moment. Okay, prince moment. So there was a prince moment. Okay,
Speaker 6: thank you for reminding me.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 6: So the first song that got away was one called
Speaker 6: girlfriend that Pebbles did.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, Oh yeah, yeah, girl, you want to hear
Speaker 1: this ad?
Speaker 9: Wow.
Speaker 6: So I was working with Babyface in La Read when
Speaker 6: they were sharing a two bedroom apartment on Highland Boulevard
Speaker 6: you know where that is, back in nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 6: I was pregnant with Mellie at the time. But me
Speaker 6: and Babyface are working on the electric piano on the
Speaker 6: song and coming up with the demo and Pebbles walks in,
Speaker 6: I guess, invited by someone I don't know, and we're
Speaker 6: singing the song Pebbles and she's like, oh, that's a jam.
Speaker 6: I go, yeah, yeah, that's a jam.
Speaker 2: I was like yeah.
Speaker 6: The next day I went to continue working on the
Speaker 6: song and they had given it to Pebbles, goddamn it.
Speaker 2: So that was seth. That was number one that got away.
Speaker 6: Number two is that the first time I actually recorded
Speaker 6: and heard myself on the radio was with George Clinton
Speaker 6: from Parliament Buffet, Yes, and I ended up doing George's
Speaker 6: album because I was doing an off Broadway show here
Speaker 6: called One Man Band.
Speaker 1: Back in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 2: Deborah barshe was a musical director.
Speaker 6: We both moved to LA at the same time, and
Speaker 6: Deborah called and said, I'm working with this guy named
Speaker 6: George Clinton on his album.
Speaker 2: I go what, And She's like, what, you want to
Speaker 2: sing with me?
Speaker 6: He said absolutely, She had no idea, And of course
Speaker 6: we grow flashlight what really light?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we knew, Yeah, I like fat lie.
Speaker 1: Stopped.
Speaker 6: So I sang on these two songs, go do fries,
Speaker 6: go with that shake and hey, good lugging.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 6: So it was wonderful working with him and in the studio,
Speaker 6: and he said, you know what, I want to produce
Speaker 6: an album on you. And he said, let's Princess coming
Speaker 6: into town at the Universal Amphitheater. That's what it was
Speaker 6: called back in the day. So George Clinton and I
Speaker 6: went to see Prince. And I was dating my husband
Speaker 6: at the time, or he was my He wasn't my
Speaker 6: soon to be husband.
Speaker 5: Yeah no, but we weren't.
Speaker 2: Nobody was there yet, uh and be yeah, soon to be.
Speaker 6: And so after we saw Prince's show, he came out
Speaker 6: and he gave me a cassette which I cannot find.
Speaker 2: Two demos kills me.
Speaker 1: Uh and like Williams, I want you to have this castelle.
Speaker 2: And and he he met George. He said I had
Speaker 2: a George.
Speaker 6: He said hi to me, and then they said, and
Speaker 6: this is Ramona said, oh, I forgot. So it's like
Speaker 6: I guess he was trying to make a move and
Speaker 6: realized that I was dating my Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: Bring sand to the beach, so he used to say.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out.
Speaker 6: But just on a side note, the song that got
Speaker 6: away from two other people, which was a song that
Speaker 6: I did call say the best for last, but it.
Speaker 2: Was passed on.
Speaker 6: But Barbara streisand passed on it or her people pass it,
Speaker 6: and Bette Midler's people passed on it.
Speaker 1: So I got sloppy third what he calls what's third last? Exactly?
Speaker 2: I'll take it and take it over and over again.
Speaker 2: Oh my, there you go, Seth said, thank you for
Speaker 2: the two part of Wow. The it all okay?
Speaker 1: I got the next question. This is an interesting question.
Speaker 1: Do what you will with it?
Speaker 2: Should I give up and date a white man?
Speaker 8: Oh my god, you'll find the exits here and here
Speaker 8: legitimately came in this show on the train and wrote.
Speaker 1: That down in a car. Are we the court of
Speaker 1: last resort?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What are we that the oracle of Delphi? Like, what's
Speaker 1: the I've come to ask? I'm on my last black
Speaker 1: nerve and don't like.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think you'd be giving up.
Speaker 2: I think you'd be opening your options to love, to
Speaker 2: be honest, because in this day and age, it's like
Speaker 2: you need to just hunk.
Speaker 1: Her down with a good person. There's a white guy
Speaker 1: that's not a It's like, you're.
Speaker 2: Goddamn right, he's not my husband, and he's not. That's
Speaker 2: another white dude. That's another one.
Speaker 5: Can I tell you?
Speaker 2: I'm married, so, ma'am. But he could cook, and he's
Speaker 2: got a booty, and yeah, he's got good taste of music.
Speaker 2: And when I'm home late from a show, he lays
Speaker 2: my bonnet on a pillow.
Speaker 3: Again another bestseller title, he lays my bonnet on my pillow.
Speaker 1: You're not giving up, You're just looking within. That's right, agreed.
Speaker 1: I can't advise you there. I don't know, ladies, love
Speaker 1: is love his love.
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's what I've learned from you.
Speaker 4: But you can't really look at a person. You need
Speaker 4: to be attracted to them in some way. But I
Speaker 4: think more of their spirit. That has to be the
Speaker 4: thing that carries through you know, and that and yes,
Speaker 4: you'll deal with things. But I do think if someone
Speaker 4: loves you the right way, it doesn't really matter what
Speaker 4: their background is.
Speaker 6: Ever give up, I mean giving give up what I mean,
Speaker 6: you're giving up humanity?
Speaker 1: I mean you know, yeah, and no one's no one's
Speaker 1: keeping score like you should? You should go and try.
Speaker 1: They probably single that I have time to keep score?
Speaker 2: You have someone to have dinner with. Bitch, what's the
Speaker 2: next quart?
Speaker 1: We got time for more? Question?
Speaker 3: The older I get, the more I hate people, parentheses, annoyed?
Speaker 3: How do I continue.
Speaker 1: Wait? Wait, wait, it's just growing?
Speaker 3: How do I continue growing into my genuine self without
Speaker 3: becoming a missing thrope?
Speaker 1: I love that word impossible?
Speaker 2: Didn't Moliere write then miss throat?
Speaker 1: And yeah? I think so? Indeed, it's hard leve that's
Speaker 1: the hard thing to answer. I don't know, what do you?
Speaker 1: What do you all think? What do you?
Speaker 9: How?
Speaker 3: How does one do that? How do you grow and
Speaker 3: get into yourself more? Without like shutting out the world.
Speaker 6: I understand and patience. You know, the older you get,
Speaker 6: the more you like, I'll just do it. And and
Speaker 6: that's just kind of you know how to do stuff.
Speaker 6: Your your patients, I think definitely dwindles windles unless you're
Speaker 6: with your grandchild, which I let him do anything.
Speaker 1: And I have patients.
Speaker 6: I can understand being annoyed and and not having not
Speaker 6: wanting to deal with people just because of age. And
Speaker 6: you know, but again, you just gotta if you cut
Speaker 6: yourself off, you're losing days. And you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: And oh man, there's a finite amount.
Speaker 3: Of days like why, yeah, why don't you do that?
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, okay, New York is always inviting
Speaker 3: you to hate other people.
Speaker 1: True, that's what it. That's what we do here. You
Speaker 1: know what you're saying is our love.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's someone from Texas not all the time. What
Speaker 2: I do love about New York is this. Yes we're aggressive,
Speaker 2: Yes we get to the point. Yes we always have
Speaker 2: somewhere to go, even though we have nowhere to go.
Speaker 2: But New Yorkers like we're still a community. We pride
Speaker 2: ourselves on knowing the direction. When you don't, we'll help
Speaker 2: you know, it might not be met with like a
Speaker 2: smile and like a ism, but you got to where
Speaker 2: you need to go. Also, if someone like something happens
Speaker 2: to somebody, we all step in, like I don't know someone.
Speaker 2: That's just like not stepping in when someone's hurt in public.
Speaker 2: Sometimes I step over.
Speaker 1: Now, let me say.
Speaker 3: In my head, all right, there are two things that
Speaker 3: New Yorkers will still do to this day, and I
Speaker 3: appreciated one.
Speaker 1: They will tell you when your bag is open, won't they?
Speaker 1: They'd be like, yes, South, all right, jesus.
Speaker 5: Two, your shoes untied, you shoot, you gonna fall?
Speaker 1: You welcome. New Yorkers have substitute teacher energy.
Speaker 2: And I'm here for it, okay, And I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: Okay. Last question from the question, and I like this question.
Speaker 2: What is your earliest memory?
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yeah, I was born in California, so
Speaker 4: somewhere in California.
Speaker 5: Backyard.
Speaker 10: But yeah, like grass, sun, happiness, I don't know what
Speaker 10: that is.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.
Speaker 2: That's a beautiful life.
Speaker 5: That's what that is.
Speaker 1: Peaceful? Yeah, and your mom gave you that, that's fucking amazing.
Speaker 6: I spent my first year in the Bronx. Each two
Speaker 6: twenty third Street, b X and Grandma Bacon was my
Speaker 6: caretaker while my parents were working as music teachers in Westchester.
Speaker 6: So I remember vaguely the apartment, brick apartment, and I
Speaker 6: remember like visiting there after we moved out to Westchester
Speaker 6: when I was you know, one or so, but yeah,
Speaker 6: just warmth and loving hugs and stuff, I guess, and dogs.
Speaker 6: I always had dogs. I love that I have dogs
Speaker 6: and I have kids. I feel like that's how I'm
Speaker 6: going to teach him about death.
Speaker 1: That was my first trauma.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my dog Mouse died and was hit by I
Speaker 6: went to way to girl Scout camp and it was
Speaker 6: raining the whole weekend.
Speaker 1: It came back and they said Mouse is gone. I go,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? Mouse has gone?
Speaker 6: We can't find him and he had wandered out and
Speaker 6: I guess somebody found him on the road down the street.
Speaker 6: And I just remember like it was yeah, rack, So
Speaker 6: I had to be like nine or so, eight nine.
Speaker 2: It was awful, but the other memory was good.
Speaker 8: I got.
Speaker 1: What about you? What's your friend? I want to hear
Speaker 1: don't like okay, but I love you. No, we got
Speaker 1: to ask them the question that we Yeah, we gotta ask.
Speaker 2: Hours one having sex. What is We asked all our
Speaker 2: guests what is the most adult thing you would like
Speaker 2: to do for yourself this year that you haven't done?
Speaker 1: It?
Speaker 2: Truly? Could be anything big or small. Some people say,
Speaker 2: organize your garage. Boy would was like, I want to
Speaker 2: go to Japan and go to a baseball game and
Speaker 2: take Srisota and small the air.
Speaker 1: Remember what? Oh my goshaul A.
Speaker 2: Shakeoul Ai said, I want to go to Capri in
Speaker 2: capri pants and drink a Capri Sidney Washington said, I
Speaker 2: want to cut.
Speaker 1: More people off, like in traffic.
Speaker 2: Yes, what is the most adult thing that you guys
Speaker 2: For me? It was making salad dressing from scrash? Yes,
Speaker 2: who does that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But a good one?
Speaker 6: You do that?
Speaker 1: What do you make? You make salad dressing?
Speaker 8: Now?
Speaker 1: Look at me?
Speaker 3: What about second season renewal? Doesn't say I make my
Speaker 3: own style dressing?
Speaker 4: Okay, it's really cringey because I just I'm so embarrassed
Speaker 4: as a person to admit this, But I have to
Speaker 4: get my fucking driver's license again.
Speaker 5: Yes, airhorn, what happened?
Speaker 2: Yes, she let it lapse.
Speaker 4: No, it's so easy, you can do it loud in
Speaker 4: my pre pandemic ways, just living life in New York.
Speaker 4: You never need to drive ever in New York ever,
Speaker 4: So I, you know, whatever, twenty nineteen hits and it's
Speaker 4: like you got to renew, like go get an eye test,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, whatever, I'll do this one.
Speaker 10: Ever, twenty twenty hits, I like, forget about it.
Speaker 4: You forget about it because the world is falling apart,
Speaker 4: so you're not focused on that. And then by the
Speaker 4: time I came to and realized I have to get
Speaker 4: this thing, it was expired late.
Speaker 2: That's okay, Sorry, I didn't. I couldn't find my license
Speaker 2: for like a year. And then I was like, whatever,
Speaker 2: it's active. Couldn't find it for like a year, just
Speaker 2: traveling with the passport for no reason. You have a
Speaker 2: passport on me.
Speaker 5: And then I just like put on a jean.
Speaker 2: Jacket I haven't seen in a while. I was like,
Speaker 2: you never know, that's a very adult thing. Yes, I
Speaker 2: want to do some yachting. That's very adults.
Speaker 1: She speaks.
Speaker 6: You want to do and I don't want to pay
Speaker 6: for it, but I want to be a guest on
Speaker 6: a fabulous Yeah. I watched the deck all the time,
Speaker 6: do you Yeah, it's the best I've I've watched every season,
Speaker 6: every bed.
Speaker 2: I want to getty white girl in shorts or scored
Speaker 2: to like he's giving me champagne.
Speaker 1: And a small hot Yes, do you want to? Do
Speaker 1: you want to bounce out of cannab Ran or something
Speaker 1: like that? Do you want? I mean, I love that.
Speaker 1: Do you want to?
Speaker 6: Normally they're like at least one hundred one fifty. There
Speaker 6: are some big mega yachts with a whole crew, and
Speaker 6: they do like themed dinners, like there's the White Parties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I want to do all that.
Speaker 1: It's it's it seems hilarious and fun. I want that
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: Let's we've gotta find somebody to pay for it, but
Speaker 2: then I will be again.
Speaker 1: Gotcha give us for Vanessa? Thank you so much, Michelle.
Speaker 3: Talking to people of this ilk Lis quality is just
Speaker 3: like so amazing and fun because when you come to
Speaker 3: think about it's actually three generations of very musically talented people.
Speaker 3: It's Vanessa Wlliams's parents who taught music in Westchester and
Speaker 3: then influenced her.
Speaker 1: She influenced her daughter and now here.
Speaker 2: We are, and they have both influenced different generations.
Speaker 1: Yes, do you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And so that's why I always tell people, don't tell
Speaker 2: your self know before someone else does, you know, and
Speaker 2: even then figure out what to do with that rejection
Speaker 2: and live in it and only let that shit fuel you.
Speaker 2: Because if you're gonna sit here and be like, but
Speaker 2: everyone's doing it and it's too hard, then why are
Speaker 2: you even living?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 2: And and I put this in my show too, Season
Speaker 2: one and Survival of the Thickest all episodes available on
Speaker 2: Netflix right now, nominated for seven and DOLEACP Image Awards.
Speaker 5: Hey Hey.
Speaker 2: In the last episode, dream big because it makes life
Speaker 2: worth living, and that could mean anything. It doesn't necessarily
Speaker 2: have to be your name in lights. It could be
Speaker 2: real estate, it could be writing something like no matter
Speaker 2: how big or small. And so that's why I love
Speaker 2: the question that we always ask our guests at the
Speaker 2: end of each episode, what's the most adult thing you
Speaker 2: want to do for yourself? Because it really, like is
Speaker 2: very telling on what we think adulting is. But you know,
Speaker 2: the more we do this show, the more I'm just like, Oh,
Speaker 2: it is trusting your gut and taking your shoes off
Speaker 2: when you go to someone's house, your nasty little bitch.
Speaker 2: So sorry. Hey you guys, if you like the show,
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Speaker 1: Okay, we can take it. We can take whatever sism Okay, no.
Speaker 2: Jordan could take it and then filter it down to
Speaker 2: me because I can't. I can't. It's too much. You
Speaker 2: know how hard it is to find a black double
Speaker 2: X tank top that has like one of those straps
Speaker 2: that you can like make tighter. That's enough for me,
Speaker 2: and I don't need to read what people think about me,
Speaker 2: because you know, I've been trying to find my belly.
Speaker 2: But when I sit down since like nineteen eighty six.
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Speaker 2: That was such like my husband, my husband does that move?
Speaker 2: He's like, Okay, she's done. I'll move on. Thank you.
Speaker 2: Jordan Carlos, what was the last name?
Speaker 1: Carlos? Is my last day?
Speaker 2: What's mama?
Speaker 1: Oh? Jordan Carlos Nelson, Jordan Carlos Nelson.
Speaker 2: That's thank you so much. Jordan Carlos Nelson.
Speaker 1: M Okay, listen, I love this episode. This is amazing.
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Speaker 2: who wanted to do all the things. He has been
Speaker 2: shopping at her merch. He's drinking out of all the
Speaker 2: wine glasses too much, and he don't know how to behave.
Speaker 2: All right, y'all, take care of yourself and don't forget.
Speaker 2: Don't flush those wipes down the toilet now unless they're biodegradable.
Speaker 1: All right, bye bye, And and don't forget to go
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, now now I'm going.
Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production.
Speaker 2: Our senior producer is g Holley.
Speaker 1: Our associate producer is Christina Chamberlain.
Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by John Bradley.
Speaker 1: Our guest booker is Patrick Cotner.
Speaker 2: Additional production support from Hannah Kyle Crichton.
Speaker 1: Theme song and live show DJing is by DJ Don Will.
Speaker 2: Our live producer is Makala Konazovich.
Speaker 1: Artwork by Jamie Bechtel.
Speaker 2: Photography by Reis vander Most.
Speaker 3: Executive produced by Karen Kilgera, Georgia Hartstar and Daniel Kramer.
Speaker 2: Follow the show on Instagram at Adulting the Pod.
Speaker 1: Email your questions to Adulting Questions at gmail dot com.
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