1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with brooks Like and Gavin 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: de Grab and I her radio podcast. Welcome to the show. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: My name is brooks Like, and this is how Men Think. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: This is where we dive into the mind of a 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: man and we also share with you. We open up 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: ourselves and we open our hearts, our minds, and we 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: share with you everything that we can from a man's perspective. 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: And a lot of our community is female. And so 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: today's show, we have a very very influential and powerful 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: woman in l A coming on the show to serve 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: you guys, to open her story to you guys, in 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: hopes to inspire and empower our female listeners. So I'm 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: super excited about this show. She is on with us now. 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: She is one of l A's top real estate agents 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: at Douglas Ellman and Beverly Hills. She is on a 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: TV show which you've probably seen called Bravos Million Dollar Listing. 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: She is the only woman cast member female cast member 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: on that show. She also has a brand new book 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: out called Fear Is Just a four letter Word. How 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: to develop unstoppable confidence to own any room. She is 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: a mother, she's a partner, She's an overall wonderful human 22 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: being an inspiring woman. Welcome to the show. Ms Tracy Tutor. Yeah, 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: I thank you for having me. That was such a 24 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: nice intro. By the way, I have your whole bio, 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: and I could have kept going and going and going, 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: but you're a busy woman. I only have forty five 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: minutes with you, so I I gave the meat of it. 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: But you are such an accomplished woman, both personally and professionally, 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: and I want to dive into all of that. So 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: I want to dive into your book and have a 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: great discussion about fear, and dive into how you have 32 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: overcome fear, what you have learned in twenty plus years 33 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: of real estate, and how now you want to give 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: this back to inspire people, but to inspire women, um 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: in entrepreneurship, in the business, in the business world, in 36 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: the business play, and how to maintain your femininity but 37 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: still command the room and command leadership and thrive in 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: the business world. I also want to jump into then, 39 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: how you balance being on TV, writing a book, being 40 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: a full time mom, having a partner, all of this 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, because so much of our community asks 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: about the work life balance and the struggle there and 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: you seem to have that figured out. So, UM, thank 44 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: you for being an open book for our community. And 45 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: first off, I want to touch on this because you 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: know so much about this and you wrote a book 47 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: on it, Um, fear fear. I hate when people get 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: paralyzed by fear and how it inhibits them from achieving 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: greatness in their life and achieving their life goals. So 50 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: can you please tell us why you wrote the book 51 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: and why you wanted to specifically dive into the topic 52 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: of fear. I just I think fear is something that 53 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: we all struggle with. It's not, you know, something that 54 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: you act real you can get over. I think you 55 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: can attack it in the moment and release it from 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: yourself when you're experiencing it. But you know, I still 57 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: I was fearful yesterday when I launched this book because 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: I was like, this is crazy and what if everybody 59 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: hates it? And you know, so we all have that 60 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: that self doubt that takes over in us for a 61 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: variety of reasons every single day. And I felt like, 62 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, that was something that I really wanted to 63 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: share because it is something that in many, many different 64 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: areas of my life, I've been able to conquer, you know, 65 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: fear of being in a new relationship, fear of being 66 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: vulnerable to somebody new. Um, fear of not getting that 67 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: job that I'm up for against four men, um, you know, 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: fear of disappointing my children. Like, we all live in 69 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: that space, so it's never going to go away. But 70 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: I do think that, you know, there are things that 71 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: we can do to conquer it in the moment. We 72 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: have to recognize it first, right, And it's like we 73 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: all want to, you know, play like I don't know 74 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: I got this, and inside you're like dying on the 75 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: inside because you're trying to fake it until you make it. 76 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: And the truth is, I think we don't honor it enough, 77 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: Like we don't announce that we are scared and nervous 78 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: to put ourselves out there because that makes us vulnerable, 79 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: and no one really wants to be vulnerable because it's 80 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: so much easier to say, well I didn't get it 81 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: or this didn't work because I didn't really give it 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: a hundred percent. I was too scared. So um, you know, 83 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: that's really why I felt like I wanted to write 84 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: the book because I've taken a lot of chances in 85 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: my life, and I have put myself out there both 86 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: in business and in my personal life, and I've always 87 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: felt a reward every single time I've done that, whether 88 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: it as you know, a listing appointment that I was 89 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: going out on and didn't get but like I understood 90 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: why I didn't get it, and I was just I 91 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: was glad I put myself in the in the ring anyway. 92 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: And then of course, you know, in my personal life, 93 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: putting you know, talking about having a new person in 94 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: my life. You know, I was terrified about that, and 95 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: I really didn't want to talk about it for the 96 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: longest time, and then I finally said, you know what, why, 97 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Like what happens if you live in the moment and 98 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: um embrace the person that you're with whheartedly, Like what's 99 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario? It doesn't work out, and then 100 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: guess what it's gonna hurt and then you're going to 101 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: figure that out, you're gonna move on. And I just 102 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: think it's a much freeer way to live and and 103 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: it just makes you that much more unapologetic and to 104 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: me as a woman, as a woman, I think so 105 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: many of us are struggling with this, Like, you know, 106 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: constant apologizing for yourself because you didn't. You couldn't get 107 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: it right, you couldn't get out of your own way. 108 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: And this book is what it's all about. Amazing. I've 109 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: as you've been talking just right there for that minute. 110 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: I wrote down multiple questions that just kept coming to 111 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: me listening to you speak, and the first one was 112 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: and you touched on it. I also believe because I've 113 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: overcome a lot of fear in my life, and I 114 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: want to get into your relationship with fear and my 115 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: relationship with fear. But the first part of it, which 116 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: you mentioned, is the acknowledgement of fear. So I believe 117 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: that's the first step to overcoming it. And you touched 118 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: on it perfectly, And I'd love to get your perspective 119 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: on how and when, maybe when in your life you 120 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: finally started to truthfully honor and acknowledge it, and how 121 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: that process goes for you. How do you become how 122 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: do you become comfortable with saying, Wow, I'm scared, I'm 123 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: scared of this. Do you verbalize it? Do you share 124 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: it with a close friend? Is there a little practice 125 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 1: you personally go through? So how do you personally acknowledge fear? 126 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think something you know, obviously gigantic in 127 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: my life that I when you ask me this question, 128 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: just I can't help but talk about it, um because 129 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: it was so big, was my divorce, and recognizing that, 130 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, we just warrant in that place anymore, and 131 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: saying to myself, I've got to get off the fence here, 132 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: like we've both been sitting on this fence, started playing 133 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: the Teeter daughter game for five years, and I really 134 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: don't want my whole life to pass me by. So 135 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: I sat across from you know, my two or three 136 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: best best girlfriends, and I said, I I'm terrified. I'm 137 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: terrified that I'm never going to find anyone again. I'm 138 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: terrified that it could be the wrong decision. I'm giving up. 139 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: You know. It's just like it's just like I've had 140 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: to put it all out there and announce it to 141 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: myself because I knew that the only way I could 142 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: be accountable to that fear was by saying it out loud. 143 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: And I have there's a perception of me that I am, 144 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, some tough bitch and all of these things, 145 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: and the truth is I'm quite vulnerable, and I'm the 146 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: people that know me best. I'm a big cry baby, 147 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: and um, I feel I feel a lot, and I 148 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: think it's really just important to to honor that. And 149 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: and for me in my divorce, saying it allowed to 150 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: my girlfriend's was the first step and it allowed me. 151 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: And I talked about this in my book, you know, 152 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: refer to it as don't sit on the fence too long. 153 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna get splinters and grass. And you know, you 154 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: you have one life to live. And we don't know 155 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: what happens after this, not really, you know, we have 156 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: belief systems and whatever, but like, this is it. And 157 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: I certainly wanted to accept that. I was terrified and 158 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: I was jumping off that fence and I didn't really 159 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: know what was going to be on the other side. 160 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: But you know, it was the most incredible moment for me, 161 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: this second I made that decision, and I knew that 162 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: that was what it was going to be. Not I'm 163 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: making the decision tonight on four glasses of chardonnay, and 164 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: tomorrow morning I'm gonna wake up and regret it, but 165 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm making the conscious decision that this is the road 166 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: that I'm going to take, and these are the steps 167 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: that I'm going to take to to go down that road. 168 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: I immediately felt like in my body for the first 169 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: time in a really long time, and that was so incredible. 170 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: I just felt in control again. I felt in control. 171 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: And it's like I I acknowledged that fear, like what 172 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: you were talking about, and I said it out loud, 173 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: and then it freed me to be able to kind 174 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: of take that make that daring choice to you know, 175 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: go against our traditional ideals of you know, tell death 176 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: to you part and and start a new life. Amazing. 177 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't like listening to that. What I feel is 178 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: that you you took ownership back of the fear, so 179 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: by acknowledging it, by declaring it to your two or 180 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: three best friends, loved ones in your life, the closest 181 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: people to your heart in your life, by verbalizing it, 182 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: and like exposing yourself like hey, I'm scared. This is terrifying. 183 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: By doing that, in some weird way, you get ownership 184 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: back of that fear. And now you don't have to 185 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: pretend or shelter yourself or put on a facade, but 186 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,599 Speaker 1: you can actually wear the fear and start moving through it. 187 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: And what it also does is it opens up your 188 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: friends and they're gonna pour their heart into I'm sure 189 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: you felt amazing support from them right after you did that. 190 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 1: I had an unbelievable support system. I mean, I have 191 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: great people in my life. Um, you know, they are 192 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: a big part of the definition of why I am 193 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: who I am. And um, you know, I think they 194 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: all think that I was incredibly strong and during that time, 195 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: but they also saw me on my back porch, you know, 196 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: crying for you know, six hours straight and they went 197 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: through it with me. And so there's you know, when 198 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: you have a community like that that you know is 199 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: surrounding you and you have that blessing to be able 200 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: to be completely vulnerable and not be worried of the 201 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: judgment that might come your way is a pretty valid 202 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: piece of why I was able to make the decision 203 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: to do it. I love that you just shared that 204 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: little Thank you for sharing and being that open and 205 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: trusting of our community to share that, because I don't 206 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: want our listeners to think that because you've overcome fear 207 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: that it was easier, that it wasn't sad or hard 208 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: or disruptive or brought you emotions Like overcoming fear doesn't 209 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: mean it's not just a hurdle you just step over. 210 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of dredging and trudging and work that 211 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: has to go into overcoming fear. I think about in 212 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: my life the fears that I've overcome and been terrified, 213 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: and it's been days or months of things that I've 214 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: had to continually just make even baby steps to get through. 215 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: But at some point you will get through and you'll 216 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: take ownership of that fear. So I just don't want 217 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: our community to think that, oh, that's just what I 218 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: have to do. Acknowledge it, then I'm over it. No, 219 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: it's still gonna be tough, but what you want is 220 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: right on the Everything you want is right on the 221 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: opposite side of that fear. Like you said, once you 222 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: got through it, you're like, oh my god, I feel 223 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: in my body again. You know, I hope I have 224 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: control and inspiration and movement and a current in my life. 225 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: Um So thank you for just sharing that. Yeah, like 226 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: you went and sat on your porch and cried for 227 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: six hours straight. You had people well, you know, people 228 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: always think like when everybody weighs their options, I think, 229 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: particularly in this scenario, like a long term relationship like that, 230 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: you're so back and forth, and it's like, God, I 231 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: just don't know what the right decision is, so I 232 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't make any decision. Yeah, if you don't know what 233 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: the decision is, then I'll just wait for it to 234 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: what smack you in the face one day and like 235 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: you just wake up and you all of a sudden, no, No, 236 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: you're not listening to your intuition. You're not listening to 237 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: your gut. You're choosing to ignore all the signals that 238 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: are right in front of you. Both your own signals 239 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: here and you know whatever, You know the person sitting 240 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: across from you that they are delivering, and if you 241 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: don't acknowledge that, then you're you're losing. And applies professionally. 242 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: Tisn't being stuck the worst feeling you can have. It's disagreating. 243 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: It's worse than making the wrong decision in my opinion, 244 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: right because if even if I had made the decision 245 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: to stay wholeheartedly um and lived in that space, then 246 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: that would have been the decision that I was going 247 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: to make. And I think there's something really securing about 248 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: landing on your feet and and really just going for 249 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: it at some point, like there's all you kind of 250 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: like are and this isn't business too. It's like you 251 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: kind of a why I've used this all the time, 252 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: But it's like, you know when you're at a pool 253 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: and you're like, how do you visit over there? Can 254 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: I jump in there? Or is it too shallow? And 255 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: you're like walking around the pool, walking around the pool, 256 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: but oh, I think I can do it here, And 257 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: it's like eventually you're just gonna have to go for it. 258 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to trust your instincts and make a 259 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: decision and hope to God you didn't just dive into 260 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: the shallow and head first. You know. Um, I believe 261 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: fear can be an inhibitor, and I fear. Believe fear. 262 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: I believe fear can be a motivator for you. It 263 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: seems that fear is a motivator. You don't work right 264 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: towards everything that scares me. I said, I go right 265 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: for everything that scares me. It's like gravity pull. My 266 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: My dad used to say. The thing one of the 267 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: greatest lessons my dad ever taught me was he always 268 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: said he in his life, and he was a principal 269 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: of our school. He said, I run towards the fire, 270 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: and he always taught me that saying Brooks, run towards 271 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: the fire, towards what you're scared of, what you're fearful of, 272 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: run towards that. How do you I want to get 273 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: from you, Tracy, how you have the courage to do that? 274 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: Because fear is a scary thing, you know, like whether 275 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: it's opening up to a person in a relationship with 276 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: maybe it's a huge listing that you might potentially get. Like, 277 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: how do you muster up the courage to say, I'm 278 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: actually gonna dig into this thing even though I'm scared 279 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: of it. I'm signing up and I'm showing up and 280 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm digging in versus what you said before, like oh, 281 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: just kind of like dipping a toe in the water 282 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: or just being like I didn't give it to my all. 283 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: It's okay that I get it, Like, how do you 284 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: lean into that fear? I think you know, in the beginning, 285 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: it's an exercise. It was like anything else. I think, um, 286 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: in the beginning, you really are just taking a leap 287 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: of faith, Like Tracy said, if I try this and 288 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: actually ran towards the fear, that I could maybe get 289 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: the listing or have the relationship or whatever, and you 290 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: really don't know, But I think the reward is once 291 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: you do start making those decisions, you'll find yourself feeling 292 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: so much more authentic. On the other side of things, 293 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: you're so much more in your body, both emotionally, intuitively, mentally, physically. Um, 294 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: you just start to feel different. And that's something you'll 295 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: see in yourself when you start to make those decisions. 296 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: And then I think it just becomes practice. It really 297 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: has to become like a practice in your life. And 298 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: there I think little things that you can do to 299 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: sort of challenge yourself, Like if you're not really accustomed 300 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: and you are that person who just over analyzes every 301 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: single thing, there are steps that you can take to 302 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: kind of go away from that, Like don't ask eighty 303 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: eight people's opinion about a decision you're gonna make. You're 304 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: gonna get eighty eight different opinions, eighty eight different opinions 305 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: that are just going to dilute how you authentically feel 306 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: about it. You know, I say, in business and in life, 307 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: select the people that are important, a small small group 308 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: of them, and they are going to be different in 309 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: your life personally and in your life professionally. And you know, 310 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: I have those people I know who they are. I 311 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: can count them on each hand, and those are the 312 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: people I go to for a variety of different reasons 313 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: if I need to bounce how I'm feeling off of somebody. 314 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 1: But you know, once you start to lose your grip 315 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: on what your gut is really saying to you, then 316 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: it's really difficult to come back to. And you'll find 317 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: that the more and more you practice by like going 318 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: to a friend, for example, and saying, like, you know, 319 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: something as stupid as you know the other day we 320 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: were talking about that TV show and you said you 321 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: didn't like it. I like it, Like why don't you 322 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: like it? You know, like this, like it's there's little 323 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: tests that you can kind of give yourself and like 324 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: we're going against a friend of your maybe they have 325 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: an opinion about who you're dating or and you know, 326 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: you don't really say anything, but you know it's bothering 327 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: you like approach it and say, you know, it seems 328 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: like you have like some opinions about what I'm what 329 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: choices I'm making lately, what talk about it? And then 330 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you'll be like, oh, you know, 331 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: and then you just you feel and then you you 332 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: kind of throw those people off because they're not expecting 333 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: you to actually, you know, speak up for yourself because 334 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: you haven't before. And then it becomes this like you 335 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: lay your head down on the pillow at night and 336 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: you're not swallowing all that crap, and that's why you're 337 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: not sleeping, and that's why people take you know, more 338 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: and more people suffer from anxiety because it's like we 339 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: don't release it. I think that's such a thing happening 340 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: right now, especially with people with kids, because let's say 341 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: one mom is a little looser about what the kids 342 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 1: are allowed to do right now during the pandemic, and 343 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: another mom is really tight on it. All these moms 344 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: are so worried about judgment from the other mom and 345 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: and maybe caving on what they feel is safe for 346 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: their kid because they're feeling pressured by another parent. I 347 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,239 Speaker 1: see this with so many moms right now. How do 348 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: you stay true to what you feel is right without 349 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: getting that pressure from other people in relationships, business, and 350 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: even right now, maybe with your kids. You know, I've 351 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: always had a different kind of relationship with my daughters 352 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: that I think is really authentic to me and them, 353 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: And um, I'm I'm very honest with them about where 354 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: I stand on certain issues, and they are they know 355 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: me very intimately. I don't play the parent role from 356 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: up here, um, you know, standing over them like I'm 357 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, God, you know, speaking to my disciples. Um. 358 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: But I'm also not their best friend, so you know 359 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: when I'm having conversations about this. And by the way, 360 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm a mom too, and I totally know what you're 361 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: talking about. You know. I think it's about just being 362 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: candid with the people that you are talking to, like 363 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: this is this is not your choice, but this is 364 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: how I do it in my family, and I want 365 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that you're comfortable with it. And if 366 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: you're not comfortable with it, I totally get it. I'm 367 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: just going to continue to do me and all of 368 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: a sudden they'll be like, you know what, thank you 369 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: for thank you for telling me, because I just didn't 370 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: know really how to handle it. And you know what, 371 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm not comfortable because I have a kid at home. 372 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: That is I haven't seen my best friend, my nearest 373 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: and dearest since the beginning of February because she's got 374 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: two kids that are at high risk and she just 375 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: will not take a chance, and she's like, you're like 376 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: a super spreader over here, and we we just had 377 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: an honest dialogue about it, and I said, look, the 378 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: bottom line is, you know, I I have seen more 379 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: people I have already had this, and so I just 380 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to put you in a position to 381 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: where I could potentially, um, you know, do something that 382 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: might hurt your kids. And so you know, we just 383 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: have that honest kind of relationship and I think she 384 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: appreciates it, but I missed her like hell. But it's 385 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: just the fact of you know, it's a simple fact 386 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: that you've just got to be like authentic about it. Yeah. 387 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of just the acknowledgement too, 388 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: is is when you when you share that and opening 389 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: up honesty, opening up genuine, real feelings and emotions. Kind 390 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: of why I do this show because I'm not good 391 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: at that stuff, and so that this is a platform 392 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: to practice that stuff. But in doing that, people actually 393 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: truly see you. They truly see you. And when you 394 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: We've talked about this so many times on our show, um, 395 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: and I've had a great response from men and women. 396 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: But when I laid down my weapons, you know, his 397 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: former professional athlete played in the NHL for fifteen years. 398 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: Rugged spar contact sport. There's fighting in it, there's everybody. 399 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: When I laid down my weapons of trying to be 400 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: tough or trying to be Raboto or anything like that, 401 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: actually say my heart is hurting or you know, I'm 402 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: scared about this, or I'm not feeling confident about this. 403 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: So many men then lay down theirs as well. It 404 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: creates a ripple effect where people aren't trying to to 405 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: show this persona of a strong person, they're actually hey, 406 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: being vulnerable. And that's kind of become one of our 407 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: missions with this show is opening people up, um, letting 408 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: them overcome themselves or their fear of how they might 409 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: be perceived from a best friend. You when your best 410 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: friend had a conversation where you didn't really care how 411 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: they were going to receive it. It was just honest 412 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: and we're still my best friend. We need to figure 413 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,239 Speaker 1: what this up, what this is out? Um. So I 414 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: love that you do it. I love that you take 415 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: that step forward and then your friends. It's also a 416 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: great filter for people in your life. Your friends will 417 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: meet you there if they truly care about you. Absolutely, 418 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: and I think that that's like, you know, sort of 419 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: a guide for me. You know, I always try to 420 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: lead with vulnerability, and we were talking with her right now, 421 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, people were like, she always laughs that people 422 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: think I'm so tough, you know, and they're like, she 423 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: is so not tough. She is such a bus because 424 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: I do lead with vulnerability, even though I also so 425 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: I am empowered in my in the decisions that I make, 426 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: and and when I do have an opinion about something, 427 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: I speak it, and so that becomes, you know, this 428 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: this certain characteristic about me that seems to outshine all 429 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: the rest, and obviously it's magnified on a TV show, 430 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: but then you forget the other entire piece of it that, 431 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, the reason that I have incredible friendships and 432 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: good people in my life is because I am vulnerable 433 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: and I do. I'm the first to sort of say, 434 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: you know what, that was insensitive of me, and I 435 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: think I was really self involved in that moment, and 436 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: I hurt you, and I'm so sorry. It doesn't mean 437 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: I love you any less. I'm crazy about you, but 438 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: I was living in my moment and you were living 439 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: in yours, and I just completely did not acknowledge that 440 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry. I think it's so interesting with women 441 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: in business that they are perceived as tough, like successful 442 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: women in business, they're perceived as so tough and strong 443 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: and bitchy or badassy, whatever the word is. But when 444 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: you really know those people, their actual character outside of 445 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: work is usually like they're the most sensitive, vulnerable, um, 446 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,239 Speaker 1: whatever the words are. And I'm kind of getting that 447 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: from you, that you almost have two sides to you, absolutely, 448 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: and it's it. Really I struggled with it a lot 449 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: in the first and second season because everybody's perception of 450 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: me was and you know, I read a lot of 451 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: really nasty tweets and Facebook and people are just trolls 452 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: and just you know, nasty, nasty people. And I still 453 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: get it, you know, I mean to be honest with you, 454 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: like I you know, I log in the to post 455 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 1: something on Instagram, and I remember I posted just recently 456 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: a picture of my boyfriend and I which I hadn't 457 00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: and you cannot fathom the distasteful comments when we were 458 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: smiling and happy and had just nothing but you know, 459 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: not put nothing but love out there. And you know, 460 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: I got nine of that love back, and then there 461 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: was ten percent of just some really dark ship and 462 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: it's just one of those moments where you know, the 463 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: people that loved me kind of came out of the 464 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: woodworks and you know, and me as well. And I 465 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: did snap into um that mode um and defended myself. 466 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: And it was really one of those things where I said, 467 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, I could sit here and pretend not to 468 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: respond or that I don't see it, or I could 469 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: delete the comments, and I was like, no, this is horseshit. 470 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to be vulnerable. I was vulnerable and I'm 471 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: getting attacked and I'm not going to stand for it. Um. 472 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: And so there is that piece of sort of speaking 473 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: up for yourself um, and for your vulnerability, you know, 474 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: on behalf of yourself um, which I think people you 475 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: know sometimes don't do enough. Like if you put yourself 476 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: out there again personally or professionally, and um it's not 477 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: received well for whatever reason, that you don't then have 478 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: the right to respond to that. UM. I love that. 479 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: I love what you just said. You've got to be 480 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: your own like biggest advocate. Yes, So I love I 481 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: love that on two fronts. Tracy. First, UM, it's okay. 482 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: I want to acknowledge that it's okay to be two 483 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: different people. It's okay to to Like I was on 484 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: the ice as a professional anthor, I got in fights, 485 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: I tried to hit people, hurt people, beat people up. 486 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: I tried to do that. But as a that just 487 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: allowed me to perform and thrive in that arena. But 488 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: in my life, I just want to love everybody. I 489 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: don't want to hate people. I don't want to have 490 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: hatred or rivalries like that's not what my soul wants. 491 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: But in the in the business element, that's what I 492 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: needed to do there UM to survive and thrive. And 493 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: I love how you have that same sort of fabric 494 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: and that you can turn that on, you know, like 495 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: the book if here as a poor letter word, how 496 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: to develop unstoppable confidence to own any room. So you 497 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: have the ability to turn that on in that environment. 498 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: But also say, like I'm a person, I have a 499 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: heartbeat the same as you have, feelings and emotions the 500 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: same as you, UM, but also be able to be 501 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: to be independent enough, confident enough, strong enough, tough enough, 502 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: resilient enough to stand up when others are trying to 503 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: press that or put that down here like you said, 504 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: troll you UM, can you can you speak to how 505 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: that how that characteristic within you allows you in your 506 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: business world, in the business world to like command a room, 507 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: to take presence and ownership and leadership of a room, 508 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: especially if it's filled with men. Um. You know, I 509 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: think there's a couple of different things that I do 510 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: in It depends on you know, who you're sitting across from. 511 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: And think there's different personality types, and I think you 512 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: have to navigate different personalities in different ways, you know. UM. 513 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: One thing I talk a lot about is mirroring some 514 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: of those personality types. And I think it's important to um. 515 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, if you find yourself in a room with 516 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: like a creative type, you know, a lot of times 517 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: those personalities, you know, particularly in like Hollywood, your writers 518 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: or directors or um that I have been my clients there, 519 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: these fantastic personalities and they can dominate the room because 520 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: they have great ideas and oftentimes, like I can be 521 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: attracted to that because they're interesting and they're thinking outside 522 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: of the box. But they're also hard to keep focused, right, 523 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: So you know, I'll come into a room you know 524 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: differently for someone like that, and I would with you know, 525 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: someone that is you know, perhaps like the guy with 526 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: the client end of mine that has been on the 527 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 1: show the last two weeks. I mean, he has an 528 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: ego that is is larger than the state of California. 529 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: So I had to with him. I I really couldn't 530 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: showcase any vowner ability because he had He was the 531 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: type that looked for the whole and would like and 532 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: jab you like I remember I was walking him through 533 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: the house and that this did end up making the show, 534 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: and he looked at me in the master bedroom and 535 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: I was looking around and saying what a great view 536 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: it was. And he looked at his business partner, who 537 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: remained silent the whole showing, and he said, look at her. 538 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: She looks a little bit nervous, doesn't she doesn't she, Robert, 539 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: He's a little nervous, Tracy. And he was like he 540 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: was just completely just outright coming for me. And I 541 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: just looked right back at him, staring in point blank 542 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: in the eye, and I said, I'm not nervous at all. 543 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't really get what was the purpose of him 544 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: saying that he wanted to throw me. And I couldn't 545 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: figure out in the moment why. I realized later that 546 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: there was there was something, you know. I mean, he's 547 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: a masochist number one, um, but there's also something about 548 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: him that he got pleasure in watching me squirm. But 549 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: I think he wanted to see me survive it. He 550 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: wanted to see if I could continue on and I did, 551 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: and at the end of it, you know, he offered 552 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: me the portfolio. But I remember he also said to me, 553 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, you realize if you fail, I will fire you, 554 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: like like that's a necessary thing to say, if you 555 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: feel I will fire you. And I said, I don't fail. 556 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: That's such an interesting to fail. But I couldn't in 557 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: that moment. I couldn't. I couldn't showcase any vulnerability, like well, 558 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean I understand that, Scott, but you know, I 559 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: don't think I'm gonna fail or you know, I really 560 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: am a hard worker and I think you're gonna be 561 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: really like, I couldn't play that that role of vulnerable female. 562 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: It wouldn't have worked with him. Do you experience that 563 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: a lot where your own clients seem like they're sort 564 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: of combative against you. He was a special case. I 565 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: learned a lot from that relationship. I've had a few 566 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: very difficult clients over the year that that wanted to 567 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: challenge me for a variety of reasons. Um and I 568 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: just continually remind them that I have twenty years of 569 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: experience in this arena and that they hired me for 570 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: a reason. So you know, if if they're not a 571 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: fan of my opinion or way to navigate the deal, 572 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: then perhaps they should go somewhere else. And I'm not 573 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: that's so weird. I that's so bizarre because I always 574 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 1: sort of interpreted the agent as the person that's like 575 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: going to bat for you and trying to help you. 576 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: So it sounds so strange that you would want to 577 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: be like have as opponent make money until your house closes. 578 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: So believe me, we are doing everything that we can 579 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: to sell your apps. Like otherwise we're just working for 580 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: fun and this isn't fun. Along with that, how do 581 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 1: you maintain like a as a woman in the market 582 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: play area in the business world? How do you how 583 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: do you navigate and still maintain the level of femininity 584 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: or female energy that you are proud of that is 585 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: congruent with how you want to live your life, because 586 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: sometimes it is going to be challenged, Like you just said, 587 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: with this gentleman, you like You're like, I can't, I 588 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: can't give in there. Um, I need to stand up 589 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: and be firm. But how do you how do you 590 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: not just get carried away with doing that all the 591 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: time and have that become your business persona. Is it 592 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: just you know your compass of where you want to 593 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: be in your energy or I think it's too I 594 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: think I have the chapter that I talk a lot 595 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: about this. It's called fight like a Girl All and 596 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: it's about you know, embracing sort of your feminine um 597 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: energy in a room that maybe has those types of dynamics. 598 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I will, in a moment go with 599 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: my intuition, and based on who's sitting across from me, 600 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: I will either go with the more direct approach where 601 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm defending you know, where I have to look and 602 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: square in the eye and say, don't you know, don't 603 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: speak to me like that ever again. Or you know, 604 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: in some cases you can sort of play to the 605 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,719 Speaker 1: room as long as you know what your goal is 606 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: and and you know something that we have in spades 607 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: I think as women is our intuition. I think we 608 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: do listen to it more than the average men. Not all, 609 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you are oddly um, intuitive and as a male, uh, 610 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: and to talk to I mean, you're super connected, but 611 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: more often than not, particularly in business, you're not going 612 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: to experience that. So you have to try to figure 613 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: out if you need to sort of play to that room. 614 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: If you're in a room full of men that you 615 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: know happen to think you are pretty and that that 616 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: charming and charming and that that's working for you, then 617 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: I say, more power to you. Don't shy away from that. 618 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: And that's something that's kind of controversial because then you're 619 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: overtly what sexual or you're overtly you're playing to the crowd. 620 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't see what's wrong with that. 621 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: I I think if the tables were turned, uh, and 622 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: a man was had the opportunity to play to his 623 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: masculine strengths, he's going to do that all day long, 624 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: talking about what a badass he was in football that weekend, 625 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: or who he went out with on Friday night and 626 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: check her out and like all this kind of like 627 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: macho stuff. And yet as a woman, you know, you've 628 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: got to be really careful about playing to that because 629 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 1: that could cause you a lot of issues. So it's 630 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: a fine line. But I think sort of honoring your 631 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: feminine power is a big piece of fighting like a 632 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: girl and knowing when to do that powerful awesome. UM. 633 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: We only have you for a couple more minutes, so 634 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: I want to touch on this, UM, how are you 635 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 1: able to successfully navigate the the superpower businesswoman TV book, 636 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: real estate agent for one of the popular state agents 637 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: in l A. How are you able to successfully do 638 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: that and still navigate being a full time and president 639 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: loving mother. UM. A lot of our community as female, 640 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: and a lot of them are mothers. What advice would 641 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: you give them on how you figured out on how 642 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: to have this UM? This balance. I don't know if 643 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: the balance is the right word, but of professional and 644 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: personal UM, it's one word imperfection. Embrace it. It's really empowering. 645 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: You know, you can try to be a hundred percent 646 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: all the time to your kids, and a hundred percent 647 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: all the time to your career, and a hundred percent 648 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: to your partner. But we all know in the real world, 649 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: if we're really being honest with ourselves, we can't be 650 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 1: a hundred percent to everybody all of the time. And 651 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: you have to make decisions every single day in that 652 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: moment of what is the most important thing right now, 653 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: who's sitting in front of me, who is who is 654 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: craving and needing my attention. I talked to my girls 655 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: about it very openly. I say to them, I'm gonna 656 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: miss the horse show next week, and because I have 657 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: a really important pitch. I mean, I'm making this up, 658 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: but you know, I keep that dialogue open. And I 659 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: talked to them about how important my work is to 660 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: me because I have to put food on the table, 661 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: not because I have a hobby and I enjoy being 662 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: away from them, but because I actually am want to 663 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,479 Speaker 1: raise my girls to see a successful working woman who 664 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: can take care of herself. Um. And so there's that 665 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: piece of it, and then there's just the the absolute 666 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: acceptance that were imperfect. And I just feel like when 667 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: you can accept that and you know not, I feel 668 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: like you have to be snack mom and soccer mom 669 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: and career mom and all of these things. I can't 670 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: be snack mom. It's just not going to work out 671 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: for me. And my kids understand that. But I remember, 672 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: like early on, when they were in kindergarten, first grade, 673 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I was at this school, 674 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: this private school that that both of the girls are 675 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: going to and I used to be like, well, I 676 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: have to do the fair because everybody does the fair, 677 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: and so I better volunteer, you know. And I was 678 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: like killing myself trying to like keep up with the Joneses. 679 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: And then finally I had I sat down with the 680 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: head of the school of female had taken over the school, 681 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: and I sat down, I had a meeting with her 682 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, listen, I'm going through a divorce, 683 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: I am working full time, hardy than I ever have, 684 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: and I just can't I can't come in and do 685 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: snack on Friday. And she started laughing and she was like, honey, 686 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: you don't need to worry about Friday snack or you know, 687 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: volunteer and she made we have this really great talk 688 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: and I said thank you, because I just I can't 689 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,319 Speaker 1: stand the pressure and I feel so judged by it, 690 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: and it's like I'm I'm doing it to myself. So 691 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: I completely like all of it. I haven't been up 692 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: to that damn school except for picking up in two years, 693 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 1: and I feel like I am still a great mom. Yeah, 694 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: you seem to have your boundaries really set, Like I 695 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: think that's one thing A lot of people struggle with 696 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: is their their boundaries get encroached upon and then they're 697 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: pleasing everybody else but not themselves, and then the word 698 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: then the worst version of them and the inevitably comes 699 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: out and you seem to have a great grasp on 700 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: protecting yourself your boundaries. And I lost it, you know, 701 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: I lost it to the head of school and she 702 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 1: was like, you did not need to be like a 703 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: mess right now. You need to fine with the decision 704 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: that you've made. But it's like, I think all moms 705 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: do that to themselves, and particularly single moms at work. 706 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: It's like we have this like insane maternal gilt that says, 707 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: if we're not doing everything all of the time, then 708 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: we we suck at this. And it's like, now you don't. 709 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: Your story is incredible. You should write a book, Tracy 710 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: um where I know you gotta go. You have a 711 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: listening to get to um. Where can people find the 712 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: book that just launched yesterday? Oh, you guys can find it. 713 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,439 Speaker 1: You can go to my website Tracy Tutor dot com 714 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: backslash book very easy if you live in the US. Obviously, 715 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: to get it on Amazon where there's hard copy available. 716 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: UM so I encourage you guys to go out and 717 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: get it. And then you can find me on Instagram 718 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: at Tracy Tutor. If you have any questions about the 719 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,359 Speaker 1: book or whatever. D m me. I try to get 720 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: back to everybody. A amazing I can't wait to check 721 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: it out. And then the show is coming out of 722 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: the twelve is a twelfth season of Million. Yeah, this 723 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: show is out. We're airing um every Tuesday night at 724 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: nine pm on Bravo and tune in and and what 725 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: It's a really interesting season. Okay, So now the single 726 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: most important question I've asked you the entire show. We've 727 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: covered a lot of things. Tell me when you were 728 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: ready for a Tracy, I'm ready. I'm in the market 729 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: for a house. Will you represent me? Yes, even get 730 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: to talk about it. Are you really looking for a 731 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: house in l A? I kind of have a soft 732 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: goal of like buying myself just because La is locked 733 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: down right now. I'm up at my lake house in 734 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,760 Speaker 1: Idaho and l A's kind of locked down even yesterday 735 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: just scaled back even more. Um. I kind of want 736 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: to watch the market and what goes on in the 737 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: next year, and I sort of have off goal of 738 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: buying myself a house uh in l A by my birthday, 739 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: which is end of June next year. So I'm I'm 740 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: already looking. I've walked through a couple I've checked it out. 741 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm watching on on the internet what's coming up daily 742 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: kind of thing, and just well I'm looking. I'm looking 743 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: to Brooks because I feel like, you know, with everything 744 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: that's going on and the climate right now, uh, you know, 745 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: end of this year, first part of next year is 746 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: going to be a really good time to buy. So 747 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's when I'm going to be out shopping 748 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: for myself. So if that gives you any confidence, you 749 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: happen to be, you know, entering the market at a 750 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: really good time, yeah, I hope. So yeah, So for 751 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: the foreseeable future, I'm gonna be just here, and I 752 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: to hope because I can be outside, i can be 753 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: on the waterkay. My dog loves it here. Um and 754 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: so friends come visit, you know. Just I love it 755 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: up in the Pacific Northwest. It's just it's my heart 756 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: and soul. But l A is also home, and l 757 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: A will be home for me. So in the market 758 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: for a new home. So if you will have to 759 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:56,399 Speaker 1: connect from this and and talk about what you're really 760 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: looking for, and we'll keep an eye out for you. Tracy, 761 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: You're the best. Thank you so much. Thank you for 762 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: your sharing your story with us. Please go check out 763 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: her new book, um and I can't wait to read it. 764 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: And then when I'm back in l A. Would love 765 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 1: to meet you sometime and yes, help you. I love it. 766 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: Thank you, Tracy, cheers to take care, have a great week. Brooks. Now, 767 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: I have a relationship question, and I'm gonna have to 768 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: stick with you to answer it, because I was hoping 769 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: Tracy was gonna answer it, but she had to go, 770 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to do it, Okay, I'll try 771 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: my best, Amy, you know. So Okay, So it was 772 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: fitting when you bring me your relationship stuff, So it 773 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 1: was fitting for her because of fear. So here is 774 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: the conundrum, and I'm so curious your take on it. Okay. 775 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: So when I'm like confident in my relationship, all is good. 776 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: But when I get anxious, like I sometimes get anxious like, 777 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: oh no, what if he doesn't like me anymore? Is 778 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: he going to break up with me? I get more 779 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: needy and kind of clingy and call more and text more, 780 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: and I would say, a guy would be like, that's 781 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: so annoying, and but it's like this circle. So when 782 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: I do that, then he's more like, uh, pulls back, 783 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: which makes me more anxious. And luckily we did talk 784 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: about it. I was like, if you just can reassure 785 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: me once in a blue moon that everything's good, then 786 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: I'm less worried about it. But like, how do we 787 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: do that ourselves without having to have that conversation and 788 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: like get into this weird circle? How do you not 789 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: worry so much about that which then takes you down 790 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: that rabbit hole of anxiety and fear and then acting 791 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: cleany and weird and needy when that's not really even 792 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: who you are. Does that make sense? Did I explain 793 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,840 Speaker 1: it right? Yeah? Someone My first question is like, what 794 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: is causing me anser siety? Is it like, oh, he 795 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: hasn't called me in three days or I haven't spoken 796 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 1: with him in a week, Like, yes, that is warranted anxiety. 797 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: Or is life just that's a really that's such a 798 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: good that's a really good question. I think it's just 799 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: life is so anxiety filled right now that I just go, oh, 800 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 1: let's just add this anxiety to it too, you know, 801 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. That was my first question is like, like, 802 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: has has he done something where you're like, wow, the 803 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: thing is really off. No, so he's been himself and 804 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: been the same and now all of a sudden like yeah. 805 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 1: And I'm so curious for people to answer this question too. 806 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,720 Speaker 1: Is that a girl thing that girls just do where 807 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: we get like worried in quotes are like, uh, does 808 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: he like me? Is that a girl thing? Like? I 809 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: don't really think guys do that. Let me so let 810 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 1: me go with that. I would say I would not 811 00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 1: put that as a gender specific thing. Um. I think 812 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: all human beings, regardless who you are, if you are 813 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: the president of the United States, even all, let's not 814 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: bring him up. But well, I mean I'm talking whatever. 815 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean, a person in immense power positions right right right, 816 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 1: All human beings undoubtedly go through an EBB and a 817 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: flow of of supreme confidence and that sometimes lack of 818 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,879 Speaker 1: confidence and self doubt. And speaking from experience myself, even 819 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: I was a I had a very successful hockey career. 820 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: I felt supremely confident most of the time because I 821 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: trusted my preparation, trusted my passion, the work that I 822 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: put in, the amount of intensity that I put in. 823 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: But still even with all of that built up, there 824 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:52,760 Speaker 1: were still many, many, many times of self doubt of jeez, 825 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: how come I am I good enough? How come it's 826 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: not going my way right now? Like even though I 827 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: prepared the same, I worked the same, I rested the same, 828 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,240 Speaker 1: nothing had changed, just the natural ebb and flow of life. 829 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 1: Is I just went through a little bit of self 830 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,439 Speaker 1: doubt or a little bit of whatever. But it's not 831 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: it's not self deprecating if you just acknowledge and recognize 832 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: it and acknowledge like, hey, I'm actually doing the work. Um, 833 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: the result maybe isn't exactly what I want, but um, 834 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's just my own take on it. 835 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: So is it better to sort of, okay, so let's say, 836 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: in your relationship, is it better to actually acknowledge it 837 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: to you're you know, boyfriend and just go, oh, I'm 838 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: feeling a little anxious, that's why this is happening. Or 839 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: is it better to kind of like just do it 840 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: on your own and like maybe meditate or say to yourself, like, 841 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 1: this is based on nothing, get your ship together and 842 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 1: don't put this on other people. Which one is the 843 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,960 Speaker 1: way to go for me, it worked better to talk 844 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: to him about it because it kind of just got 845 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: rid of it really quick. But is it better to 846 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: do it yourself. I don't know the answer to that either. 847 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that you have to answer that one 848 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: way is better than the other. I think both are 849 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: very helpful and can be used at different times at 850 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: the same time, Like maybe it's sometime you're like, wow, 851 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: like he's really not doing anything, it's just me, and 852 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: let me just like go to a meditation class or 853 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,239 Speaker 1: be peaceful and serene, or go on a walk and 854 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,399 Speaker 1: clear my head and just like you know, and then 855 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: maybe come back and then just voice it to him 856 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: quickly and just like I was feeling this, it's probably me, 857 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 1: as Tracy said, it's probably me just in my own stuff, 858 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: and I apologize for it. I'm just feeling this want 859 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: to bring voice to it. That's why you're in a partnership. 860 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,800 Speaker 1: Like you're in a partnership, you have somebody on your side, 861 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: you have a teammate, and not using them is not 862 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: a partnership, right. I like that advice because I think 863 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: that's true. If you if you're not able to admit 864 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 1: it or ask or just explain then what are you doing? Yeah, 865 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: and you're not you're not even letting that person in them, 866 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 1: you know. If and look at it this way, like 867 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 1: if you if you're part know Amy was struggling with 868 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: that same thing, you would say, just come ask me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, talk, 869 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: come talk to me. I'm here for you, like yeah, 870 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: I'll reassure you everything's good. Or you know, maybe when 871 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: you go ask them they're like, no, everything is bad. 872 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to scare you. Abe, I already handled 873 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: it before I asked you about it, because I would 874 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: have been so anxious if I asked you, I would 875 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,919 Speaker 1: to like started balling right now. But truthfully, that's that's 876 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 1: the point of a partnership is to have somebody to 877 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: lean on, somebody to be in something together. So they 878 00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: otherwise they're in a partnership and you're not. If you 879 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 1: and you would say to them, come to me, like, 880 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: come to me. I'm your person, like I'll help you 881 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,200 Speaker 1: if you're struggling with something, let me know. So I 882 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: have a chance to help you because I love you 883 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: to bring my heart to you so um. But then 884 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 1: I would also say, like there are other times when 885 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,120 Speaker 1: you can recognize and be like this is just a 886 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: small thing. I just need to clean myself up a 887 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,040 Speaker 1: little bit here. Whatever is a personal development practice that 888 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: works for me, a good mindset. I like that clean 889 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: myself up a little bit. That's a really good way 890 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: to say it. It's like it's like you shower almost 891 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 1: You're like, I just gotta like clean myself up. That's 892 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,800 Speaker 1: a good good way to say it. Maybe just emotionally 893 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: or a little soul wise or a little like so 894 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: that you're not just always dumping on this person. You know, 895 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: it's probably like then it's like you want me. If 896 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,480 Speaker 1: it was me and you were always dumping on me, 897 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 1: it's like I always have to do the work for you, 898 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: right if I see you, if you're like, hey, I 899 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: need I just need a morning or something, I want 900 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: to go to a meditation class with just kind of 901 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,839 Speaker 1: struggling and whatever, and then you come home in a 902 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,719 Speaker 1: better state. I'm like, Wow, she was struggling with something 903 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: and went and worked on herself. And I see that 904 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: independence versus that clinging and neediness. You know, so well, yeah, 905 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: and as soon as I felt confident, like he was like, no, 906 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: everything's good, You're just being annoying. And then I was like, Oh, 907 00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: I'll be less annoying now that I know everything's good, 908 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: and I totally am. It's like so weird how we 909 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: mess with ourselves. Basically me before we go? Did you 910 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: already like read that that email from the listener? I 911 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: think next week we should have like all those questions 912 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 1: and answer a bunch of questions. But should we do 913 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,240 Speaker 1: one before we go? The one from Maria? Yeah? Read it? Okay, 914 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: So here's that question. We always love when our listeners 915 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: send us questions. We read them all and we pull 916 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: it from him, the most popular or themed ones, the 917 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: best ones that we share them on the show. So 918 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: this one's from the listener, Maria, and she said. Brooks 919 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 1: said that he has learned to be more in touch 920 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: with his emotions this past year. I'm wondering where did 921 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: the lack of being emotionally in touch come from? Hockey, 922 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: locker room culture, family dynamics, or somewhere else. How can 923 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,520 Speaker 1: you effectively communicate as the new you without being a 924 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: giant feather ruffler to those who have not changed along 925 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: with f you? UM question a wonderful question. It's like Maria, 926 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: it's an amazing question, and so to answer it truthfully, 927 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,440 Speaker 1: and I've figured this out being on the other side 928 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 1: of hockey and being retired from hockey. Now, Um, the 929 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: reason I was, I was conditioned that way, I was 930 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: cultured that way. I am. I was not born that way. 931 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't believe and just spoke about this with Tracy. 932 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: I do not believe that a human being is born 933 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 1: with hatred or rivalry or anthemy like qualities that that's 934 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: what they want in their life. Um. I believe human 935 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: beings are born with joy and pleasure and happiness and 936 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: kindness and love in their heart. And so when I 937 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,479 Speaker 1: think of my soul, truthfully, when I think of my soul, 938 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: I think of my soul is just you know me, Amy. 939 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: I have a massive heart, and I want to give 940 00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 1: to people and love people. I want that to be 941 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: my legacy on the earth that I just love massively. 942 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 1: Um and so I but in in hockey, you get 943 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: beat up pretty quick if you go out there like yeah, yeah, yeah, 944 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: the you literally get paid because you need to win. 945 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: So to win, you need to beat the other team. 946 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 1: And I just can't go out there and love everybody 947 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 1: and try and serve their mission. I gotta go out 948 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: there and beat people so through the sport. Um, it 949 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: wasn't something that was taught to me by my parents. 950 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: You need to be this way to thrive. I think 951 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: it was the a little bit of the hockey culture, 952 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of locker room, but mainly myself in 953 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: trying to and I've said this many times, I tried 954 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: to weaponize every part of myself to be able to 955 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: succeed at hockey, and that includes emotions. So as a 956 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 1: professional athlete, we actually we actually train sensory deprivation training, 957 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 1: which means you is that you train yourself not to 958 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: feel You train yourself not to feel pain. Can I 959 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,480 Speaker 1: physically push my body for further? Can I go longer? 960 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: Can I train harder and longer? Um, you train yourself 961 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 1: not to hear noise. We're in a building with eighteen 962 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: twenty screaming people. I don't want to hear that noise. 963 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 1: I need to focus on this. I don't want to 964 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,600 Speaker 1: see that distraction. The people on the glass banging right 965 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: in your face. You know, you see you see players, 966 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 1: You see like a player standing calm and still, and 967 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 1: you see chaos around the fans or people banging like 968 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: they've trained themselves. They have sensory deprivation training where they 969 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 1: don't get rattled by all of this stuff, and the 970 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: same goes for emotions, and it's very unhealthy. I remember 971 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: being at a funeral of my next door neighbor Ura Wilson, 972 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: who was almost like a grandmother to me because my 973 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 1: grandma was seven hours away or On Albert lived right 974 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 1: across the street from us, and when she passed, I 975 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: think I was about twenty two years old, and I 976 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: remember intentionally stuffing feelings at her funeral. He said that 977 00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: this would make me stronger. You My brother started crying 978 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: next to me, and I felt the emotion coming up 979 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 1: of crying for or as she were so close to them, 980 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: and I stuffed that down because I'm like, this is 981 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: gonna make me stronger. Nobody told me to do that. Nobody, 982 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 1: no coach told me to do that. My parents didn't 983 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 1: tell me to do that. I did it myself. And 984 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,799 Speaker 1: when I look back at that now, that's such an 985 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:26,520 Speaker 1: extremist and such an unhealthy way to live. Um And 986 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,920 Speaker 1: that's some of the can be what I'm trying to 987 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,799 Speaker 1: undo from my sport, and that's why my emotions have 988 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 1: started to come out in the last year. That's why 989 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm having this conversation today with you and with with 990 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: Tracy like a year ago. I'm not jumping on a 991 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,799 Speaker 1: call to talk about how it does a woman, you know, 992 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,600 Speaker 1: maintain their femininity in a marketplace or in a business life. 993 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 1: You know. Having this conversation is practice for me to 994 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: get more in touch with my actual true soul and 995 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: my true heart and feelings versus what I had cultured 996 00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:03,479 Speaker 1: myself to be through sport. Yeah good, it feels better. 997 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,879 Speaker 1: Probably stuffing it down, they say that doesn't really work, 998 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: So it feels so I feel so much more like pree. 999 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,640 Speaker 1: I sleep beautifully, yeah, yeah, deliberate. I feel honest and 1000 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: authentic and truthful, you know. And I've you've seen me cry. 1001 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 1: I've cried my eyes out to you, like you've seen I. 1002 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: I lost we lost our dogs, Lexie and Harley last year, 1003 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 1: like just wrecked me, you know. Like there's been so 1004 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 1: many things in my My heart has broke open in 1005 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: so many ways that actually I now allow myself to 1006 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,879 Speaker 1: feel it. The armor that I put on it has 1007 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: come off and it's starting to crack and come off. 1008 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,440 Speaker 1: And now I can actually feel my heart and my 1009 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:48,399 Speaker 1: emotions and I love them. Even crying has come back 1010 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: into my life. Luckily, you've never seen me cry never, 1011 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: not not not any of the times that you've walked 1012 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 1: into my heart more with your hair a mass and 1013 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: your son us is on and I just said let's 1014 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: have it, and you mean not every other Tuesday. Um anyway, 1015 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I always cry. It just pours out. 1016 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,879 Speaker 1: I sometimes, especially these days, like I find myself just 1017 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: crying all the time. Like it's just so emotional and 1018 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 1: hard on people. Right now, it's like everything makes me cry. 1019 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 1: I mean, I like put a little mask on my 1020 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 1: nine year old niece and I'm like, oh, this is 1021 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: so emotional in ways, like it's just you go, okay, 1022 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 1: this is life. And then I think about them going 1023 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 1: to school, and it's like I want them to go 1024 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 1: to school and I don't want them to go to 1025 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 1: school at all. It's like I don't know how everything 1026 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:57,239 Speaker 1: is fearful, like we've talked about today and how do 1027 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 1: you sort of navigate that. It's like, let me just 1028 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 1: do our best amy truthfully, nobody there's no playbook for this. 1029 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 1: No nobody has the answers because we don't know what's coming, 1030 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,439 Speaker 1: you know, So we just we just do our best, 1031 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 1: try our best, surround ourselves with people we love, and 1032 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: like today, I cried today. I had a deep heartfelt 1033 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 1: conversation today with a person and I cried this morning 1034 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 1: in that conversation. And I love it. I love it 1035 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 1: because it actually means I'm actually expressing my full heart 1036 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: like any any person that you can see it, and 1037 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 1: especially in man. You can are in anybody, but you 1038 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: can see when emotions start coming up on a person. 1039 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 1: You can visually there's your body will show those signs 1040 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: of emotions coming up. And then people that push it 1041 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:50,120 Speaker 1: back down to regain composure and control aren't actually expressing 1042 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: the true potential of their heart and their love. And 1043 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: so for me, when I feel that start coming up, 1044 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: I've now learned and I'm now conditioning myself to just 1045 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: let that poor out because my mission in life is 1046 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: to love truly, to love. So if emotion is coming, 1047 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: it's coming, you know. And I used to stop it. 1048 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 1: I used to stop it because it served me in hockey. 1049 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,240 Speaker 1: Now that hockey is not in my life, have been 1050 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: able to make and I've just evolved as a man 1051 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: and as a human being, I've been able to make 1052 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 1: so many more strides to opening up my heart. And yeah, 1053 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 1: I think if you stop it, it makes you sick. Oh, 1054 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: if I believe that, I believe it's to some sort 1055 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 1: of cancer or some sort of or diarrhea. At least 1056 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 1: I was going to long term, like somebody that has 1057 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 1: this tendency to do this for a decade or decades, 1058 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: that it's gonna turn into a tumor or something. But 1059 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 1: you're like, no, right now, it's coming never. I always 1060 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,439 Speaker 1: want to work diarrhea into the show somehow. Wait, what's 1061 00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 1: our email address? I really want people to send us 1062 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 1: like a bunch of questions so we can get like 1063 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 1: a panel next week and try to answer all these 1064 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,919 Speaker 1: questions that people have right now, Like, like I said, 1065 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: my mom, friends that are like I don't know what 1066 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to do, Like do I do I send 1067 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: my kid to school? Do I not? Do I let 1068 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 1: my kid go on this bike ride? Do I not? Like? 1069 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: Do they go out with this friend? Those that family 1070 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: is being a little more loosey goosey than we are. 1071 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,320 Speaker 1: But is it going to hurt those people's feeling? I 1072 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: mean it's just a hot, hot yes, Yeah, what's our 1073 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: email address? It's Ben at I Hurt Radio dot com. 1074 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 1: You guys are both messing men at I Heart radio 1075 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 1: dot Com. Email us. We know you're listening, So emails, 1076 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 1: any questions, anything you want us to talk about, and 1077 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,400 Speaker 1: I'll put together for Brooks a really good panel so 1078 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: we can try and answer some of this. I'm gonna 1079 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 1: let I'm gonna let the ships go on today. I'm 1080 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 1: not gonna bleep the ships. She said, shit, I said, 1081 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: ship we can all right, and I'm gonna let the 1082 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: diarrhea stay in. Yeah you are. Um, I'm actually really 1083 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 1: curious to hear I'd love to hear from our listeners, 1084 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: from our community. UM. I'd love to hear from you guys, 1085 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 1: just how you're doing with this time. UM. I've found 1086 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: this time to be an immense blessing. UM. Nobody lost 1087 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: any family members in this time due to so I've 1088 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 1: been very fortunate in that way. My family hasn't got it. 1089 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,280 Speaker 1: I've had a few friends that have had it. UM, 1090 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: but I've found the time to be I was having 1091 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: a conversation this morning about it, about how it's taught 1092 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: me real true presence. Yeah, I've been at my lake 1093 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: house in Idaho and had a couple of friends come 1094 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: and we've been here for two weeks in quarantine here 1095 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 1: and just been in the same room and laughed and 1096 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed each other's company. And it's really brought a paramount, 1097 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: like just a paramount wave of reality and truth and 1098 01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,120 Speaker 1: priority in life of what's important. I have high is 1099 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:01,840 Speaker 1: in lows with it, but we can talk about that 1100 01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: next week. I have some things where I'm like, I 1101 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,360 Speaker 1: really can handle this. I got this, and some things 1102 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh man, I'm terrified when I walked 1103 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 1: down the street. And that's a lot of our community. 1104 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure so our listeners would love to hear. Yeah, 1105 01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: let's put together show. And then I just was listening. 1106 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm so frustrated because I was listening to these this 1107 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 1: live report from this reporter in Germany, and it's like 1108 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 1: they got this thing kind of figured out. So I 1109 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: don't know, I have a whole thing, Like I think 1110 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: my thing is, let's let's try and I don't know 1111 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: what I can do about it, but could we figure 1112 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: out people, let's get the testing where we can get 1113 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 1: the results like in a day or two days, not 1114 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,480 Speaker 1: twelve days. That's my thing. I'm not being it's not political, 1115 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,440 Speaker 1: it's not anything. Just can we figure out the testing 1116 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: that seems like it would be so yeah. Um, and 1117 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: there's many places in l A that are offering free testing. Yeah, 1118 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 1: but the results right now are so backlogged, so I 1119 01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:10,919 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I can find someone that can help 1120 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,480 Speaker 1: us sort that out and explain, because that's such a 1121 01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 1: problem if you have to wait seven to ten days 1122 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 1: for your results. I know. But also like just the world, 1123 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,439 Speaker 1: the world yesterday is in the world today, The world 1124 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 1: today is in the world tomorrow. You know, we're doing 1125 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 1: this like we started how men think by coming into 1126 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: the studio in Burbank and seeing each other every day 1127 01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: and having face to face conversations, and now we're doing 1128 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: it digitally over zoom call. You know, the world changes. 1129 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 1: If we're not willing to accept that, like even for 1130 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 1: I think for the next twelve to eighteen months, potentially 1131 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe even two years, we're wearing masks. Oh for sure, 1132 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,400 Speaker 1: I think so for sure. If we're fighting against it, 1133 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: if we're fighting to keep the old, we're not open 1134 01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 1: to the new, We're not open to the future. You're 1135 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,000 Speaker 1: you're paralyzed, you're stop in the past. No, I don't 1136 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 1: disagree with that. I still would like to get the 1137 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: testing figured out. So I'm gonna see what I can 1138 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 1: do to get some answers on that. And that's my 1139 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: big one right now. M let's figure that out. I'm 1140 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: not a scientist or the owner of a laboratory though, 1141 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 1: so I don't know what I'm gonna I'm gonna solve it, 1142 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: laborate work on depends how you say. It sounds better 1143 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 1: that way. We'd love to hear from you guys listening. UM. 1144 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: We always try and curate topics and discussions that serve you. 1145 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 1: And so Tracy today talking about femininity and confidence and 1146 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 1: empowerment for females in the workplace was amazing. Her house, 1147 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 1: by the way, looked amazing. I wanted to mention it 1148 01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 1: to her her house. I know, maybe they'll put a 1149 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 1: shot up on the Instagram because her house was obviously 1150 01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 1: like beautiful should be. She's been We will stay for 1151 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:04,560 Speaker 1: twenty years and listening. So UM, we want to hear 1152 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 1: from you, guys, from our listeners, men at I Heart 1153 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:10,440 Speaker 1: radio dot com, send us your questions topics of discussion. 1154 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 1: We'll go through them, we'll pick the best ones and 1155 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,520 Speaker 1: we'll have a show where we dive into all of 1156 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:20,480 Speaker 1: those until next week. Take care of one another, love 1157 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,480 Speaker 1: one another, and I miss your face, Amy Sugarman and 1158 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:28,000 Speaker 1: you two Danielle and YouTube Tory. Love you guys. Hi, guys. Bye,