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Speaker 1: Yo Boutleg cap Podcast special guests in here, my guy,
Speaker 1: Yo Fulio. Welcome back, sir. How you feeling. I'm feeling
Speaker 1: good man. I saw using well my engineer ran into
Speaker 1: at the seven eleven. I'm out a tap egg. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: pull back up on the show man, I saw you were.
Speaker 1: You were in La and the Hoovers today. Oh yesterday?
Speaker 1: Is that yesterday? Yo? That was I went Daddy had
Speaker 1: pulled up to my videos too. Oh that was okay, okay.
Speaker 1: It was in the middle of lad with locker films.
Speaker 1: You were doing a shoot in the middle of their
Speaker 1: hood though. Oh they go to the middle of the well.
Speaker 1: They pulled up, so I don't think it was too
Speaker 1: far so shit. You know, they have a lot of
Speaker 1: LA sets that are everywhere. Is there any LA Gang
Speaker 1: sets that are in Jacksonville, Not that I know. It's
Speaker 1: a couple of bloods, a couple of clubs, but E
Speaker 1: ain't big though, Like how it is out here all shit,
Speaker 1: yeah the who, there's some serious guys. Shout out to
Speaker 1: all the homies. Uh. What has been going on with you? Though? Man?
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been happy to see that. I
Speaker 1: feel like for the most part, you've been kind of
Speaker 1: out the way as far as like seeing some I
Speaker 1: haven't seen no crazy shit going on involving your name.
Speaker 1: I really like chiller, like get I get everything together,
Speaker 1: because I really think about dropping like an album, but
Speaker 1: I'll probably go put out like two tape before that.
Speaker 1: But I just been chilling, trying to pull out like
Speaker 1: more like relatable music, like more like melodic type shit
Speaker 1: Like That's what I really don't right now, trying to
Speaker 1: stay away from the I mean, you know, people kind
Speaker 1: of know you for the option. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Are you kind of trying to Are you off that
Speaker 1: right now kind of sorder? That's always in my life
Speaker 1: because that's when I live. But condo sort I've been vibe.
Speaker 1: I feel like the last conversation we had you were
Speaker 1: very like, uh, you know, it kind of surprised me
Speaker 1: how mature you were kind of where your head was
Speaker 1: involving a lot of that type of energy. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It kind of felt like you were
Speaker 1: over it as well. Exactly do you feel like, like,
Speaker 1: like mentally you're in the best place you've been in
Speaker 1: so far since you've been you know, kind of nationally known. Uh.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that, but I feel like I'm like
Speaker 1: more like on track because I know, like, I gotta gold.
Speaker 1: I got people to feed. I got a family to feed,
Speaker 1: so I can't just be doing dumb shit. Exactly how
Speaker 1: many kids you got? No kids? No kids? I don't
Speaker 1: got no kids. Shout out to you. I got I
Speaker 1: got two. I don't got no kids. Not ready for
Speaker 1: the children yet I ordered to did, But I just
Speaker 1: the way I gotta be the right time because these
Speaker 1: females be bogus, super bogus bogus. Yeah, did you see
Speaker 1: the Chris Brown that you know? They just accuse Chris
Speaker 1: Brown of rape and then the girl after the accusations,
Speaker 1: like she like tried to go to the police and
Speaker 1: sue him. Yeah, was in his DM sending him voice
Speaker 1: notes saying he was the best dick shit ever add
Speaker 1: So they drop the charges. It's like these bitches are
Speaker 1: crazy exactly. That's why you gotta watch to like you
Speaker 1: mingle with it, because like these females, they have bad
Speaker 1: intentions when you famous and got status and shit, so
Speaker 1: they'll play you to the left just to get some
Speaker 1: money or just to put you in untail. I throw
Speaker 1: third on your name, man, now, I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 1: nine point seven out of ten. Like niggas, don't be
Speaker 1: rapping in these females, bro, that just be like a
Speaker 1: come up for them. Like like if I see SLF
Speaker 1: I'm out of public right and I get into an
Speaker 1: altercation with a fan, like they just do that to
Speaker 1: get Like the baby for example, how he get all
Speaker 1: these lawsuits and shit and it just happened to chopping
Speaker 1: in the airport and them fan ran up on him
Speaker 1: and dudes. But you know, it's like that'd be like
Speaker 1: the Cloudy You got to watch how you boo? That
Speaker 1: just be coubos That what I see that they be
Speaker 1: trying to come up. Yeah, I think unfortunately it kind
Speaker 1: of comes with the territory when you're when you're in
Speaker 1: the position you're in. It's like, especially with females, like
Speaker 1: you said, like you might. You don't even got to
Speaker 1: mess with the chick. You don't even got to kiss
Speaker 1: the girl, you don't got to be romantically interested. But
Speaker 1: if he was in the same room, vicinity room, vicinity party,
Speaker 1: and you're the only famous person there, like, you never
Speaker 1: know how that can come out, you know what I
Speaker 1: mean exactly. It's just like I think that that's just
Speaker 1: that's what's kind of unfortunate about today's times. Man. It's
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are looking for that short
Speaker 1: nut as opposed to earning this ship the right way.
Speaker 1: You know, you're telling ship fun ship is fucked up? Man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the babies, I feel like the babies. Probably more people
Speaker 1: test the baby than anybody, And and he keeps winning
Speaker 1: those tests, he keeps passing those tests with like like
Speaker 1: this guy murdered so well, he didn't murder someone. He
Speaker 1: was defending himself in a walmart and he killed somebody
Speaker 1: in front of his daughter who's trying to come at him.
Speaker 1: What I went through in Jasonville, I was defending myself
Speaker 1: on you know what I'm saying. At the end of
Speaker 1: the day, we gotta protect our brain. So you can't
Speaker 1: just certain people ain't going out the same way, Like
Speaker 1: you can't just walk up on certain artists because certain
Speaker 1: artists really come from the streets. And you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, they got a lot of shit at home.
Speaker 1: They got to make it back to kids, family, mom, dad,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, that so something
Speaker 1: something similar that happened to the baby happened to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but what was the circumstance. I was finishing my last midstape,
Speaker 1: love Me like I'm Dead, last call. I was at
Speaker 1: like a public studio in Jacksonville, and as I was
Speaker 1: walking out of studio my car, I got shot at
Speaker 1: along my car, like getting inside of my car, and
Speaker 1: I shot back and self defense. Like you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That shit was just another wild ass situation.
Speaker 1: That shit was all over the news or what ever?
Speaker 1: Did anything? Did you end up pitting anybody? I made
Speaker 1: them drop their clip though, and I got grades to
Speaker 1: like the ekoo, some shit I did see you got shot? Gradsed,
Speaker 1: I guess I get shot. Yeah, it's that's that's that's
Speaker 1: kind of in your hometown. Obviously, Jacksonville probably for us
Speaker 1: hotter than any other city in terms of just people
Speaker 1: not wanting to see you you know, do your thing.
Speaker 1: Did you come out of that situation like what because
Speaker 1: when you were that close to you know that bullets
Speaker 1: a foot up a foot to the riot or you
Speaker 1: know that dude's aims a little bit better, it could
Speaker 1: be all bad for you. Did that ship like kind
Speaker 1: of like do anything to you as far as just
Speaker 1: changing your mentality or changing the way you think the way. Really,
Speaker 1: I wasn't even supposed to be at that studio. I
Speaker 1: got too comfortable and I knew in my head I
Speaker 1: wasn't suposed to be at that studio just recording. But
Speaker 1: I was just trying to fit in my midstape for
Speaker 1: my fans and get it turned down and get a
Speaker 1: little did to let them hear want like my new sound.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I wasn't supposed to
Speaker 1: be at that studio on Joshuville. That was really all
Speaker 1: on me. Thank you kind of nenw you weren't supposed
Speaker 1: to be there, You're like, you know what, I left myself?
Speaker 1: I was. I was. I was sitting here and yeah,
Speaker 1: I do see that happening a lot. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you're from a certain area, you
Speaker 1: you that's where you're gonna let your guard down most
Speaker 1: of the time, and that's probably where you shouldn't, you know.
Speaker 1: That's what happened. Obviously, Dolph was at home in Memphis
Speaker 1: when when he when he got when he got got
Speaker 1: and uh Dad, it's crazy man, damn. So you the
Speaker 1: cops come question you, thank got it happened in Florida
Speaker 1: because most states you return fire. If you're in California
Speaker 1: and you fight and you return fire, it's all bad.
Speaker 1: They don't give a fuck out here if you if
Speaker 1: the gun's not registered, if California is just a weird state.
Speaker 1: Like as far as defending yourself, yeah, yeah, so at
Speaker 1: least in Florida, there's like the standard ground lawn, you know,
Speaker 1: you could be like, yeah, I was defending myself. So ye,
Speaker 1: so that was the end of that. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: after That's the way they had took my gun. I'm
Speaker 1: finny get my guns back though, but they had took
Speaker 1: my gun, ramballistics and shit to make sure I was
Speaker 1: telling them the truth. Man, Good for you, bro. Did
Speaker 1: you have any idea who did it? Obviously don't tell us,
Speaker 1: but did you did you have any any idea? I
Speaker 1: was at a publish studio Sody. Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: A million people come to the studio in and out
Speaker 1: session before me, sess it after me. So some hop
Speaker 1: on the phone, Yo, Julio's in the studio thing. You
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. They could be a female or anybody.
Speaker 1: So I was just like, in the midst of some
Speaker 1: shit I wasn't supposed to be. Are you like making
Speaker 1: it a point to try to stay away from Jacksonville?
Speaker 1: Because I just don't know what what good can come
Speaker 1: from you going home. The cops ain't fucking with you there.
Speaker 1: You got your family or friends. I'm sure the people
Speaker 1: who matter closest to you are probably with you where
Speaker 1: you're at now, Like, is there a reason to go
Speaker 1: back home besides maybe getting a bag or you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just be like, truthfully, for my brothers.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll just be hanging out with my brothers and shit,
Speaker 1: yeah about it. My family really don't stay there, my
Speaker 1: main That's what I say. You took your family out
Speaker 1: of there, right, yeah, So I'll just really beat there
Speaker 1: for my brothers trying to get shit in line. So
Speaker 1: we all just you know what I'm saying, moves want
Speaker 1: to get shipped together and ship Is there a certain
Speaker 1: point where you hit a certain level of starting more
Speaker 1: success where you kind of say to yourself, will listen
Speaker 1: to the homies, like, hey, y'all know it's love, but
Speaker 1: I can't be in the same place as y'all be
Speaker 1: at anymore because it's just, you know, counter intuitive to
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do. Or is that something you're
Speaker 1: always going to go back to? Nah, not really, because
Speaker 1: I've still be in the same places. I just I
Speaker 1: know certain places I can't be in Jazzville though, Like
Speaker 1: I ain't finna go downtown like by the police or
Speaker 1: the police, Like that's dumb. I've just been in my
Speaker 1: certain areas. Why not downtown because that's where the police
Speaker 1: like really be real hot hot, Like, oh so the
Speaker 1: cops out there, like it's like they are they record,
Speaker 1: they know everywhere, but downtown there like mainly where they
Speaker 1: be stationed. Yeah, it is how you move the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: as the Super been to Jacksonville since you, I mean,
Speaker 1: since you've been like prominent as far as an artist,
Speaker 1: I know it's been there before. That's kind of know
Speaker 1: what I was a little. But it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: wild time. The next time the super Bowl comes to Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be lit. Okay. When it was in Tempa,
Speaker 1: it was lived like they put on for the whole Florida.
Speaker 1: What was crazy about the Tampa shit is it was
Speaker 1: like the pandemic super Bowl and they did it in Florida,
Speaker 1: so shit wasn't closed. Everything it was lit. Were you
Speaker 1: in Tampa, Yeah, I was at Tamba. Tampa's a wild
Speaker 1: place too. I lived in Tampa a few years. They
Speaker 1: get Tampa and Tampa like a good I feel like
Speaker 1: it's going to be the new like high When people
Speaker 1: go to Florida, they just think about Miami and Tampa
Speaker 1: for going to be the new like state. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I've been saying that for a long time.
Speaker 1: I think too, just like even like in terms of
Speaker 1: the Florida city's music scene, I feel like they're next
Speaker 1: to kind of have a wave because I feel like
Speaker 1: every other part of Florida, for the most part, is
Speaker 1: kind of caught on and obviously like there's some dope
Speaker 1: artists out of Tampa, Taliban, Duda and Tom g and
Speaker 1: going and on. There's some fire artists out of Florida.
Speaker 1: Richie West Young Dread. But I feel like they haven't
Speaker 1: had their time yet. I feel like Orlando, Jacksonville, everyone's had,
Speaker 1: you know, has their time. But I feel like Tampa's
Speaker 1: up next for sure, exactly. And and Tampa's a fucking vibe.
Speaker 1: Those Warren Beaches and the Warren Beaches on the way
Speaker 1: on the east coast of Florida. Boy, you gotta think
Speaker 1: about they got the beaches, they got the casino, they
Speaker 1: got everything you want. Know, it's a good market for
Speaker 1: investing in property, Like it just lit, bro, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of money down there. Are you Are you investing
Speaker 1: in properties at all? I want to get into it, though.
Speaker 1: I just gotta like mingle with the right people. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into before this over with. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's a good idea, man, because, uh, the other
Speaker 1: thing is I mean, look, you got the jewelry right now.
Speaker 1: Watches are rolexes specifically, A lot of people are saying
Speaker 1: that they're like great investments at the moment. I was
Speaker 1: just talking to a jeweler about that today at the gym.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of hard assets during the pandemic is
Speaker 1: like shot up, so you ship whatever. If you got
Speaker 1: a roller or something like that. That ship probably I
Speaker 1: got two rolls, but I gave one of my little cousins.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it if it hurts the value
Speaker 1: that it's uh that is iced out though, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest. Yeah, I know they like playing jass, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: which is kind of crazy to think about. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: heard that too, though, would you what would you? Would
Speaker 1: you rock a plane? Jane like more modest? I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously got a lot of fucking jewelry on, but I
Speaker 1: don't like it. But investment standpoint, I might just get one.
Speaker 1: Ain't no telling with me the bus that get what
Speaker 1: I like? You know what I'm saying. This is a
Speaker 1: new chain right here of your boy, Yeah, with my
Speaker 1: latest penn right here with baby on my little brother
Speaker 1: and Cuban. What did that run? You? Uh? This depend
Speaker 1: at thirty thousand? This we'll get ship fitted Jesus like
Speaker 1: eighty you pay that all at once? Yeah, just shout
Speaker 1: out Ralph. Yeah, wow, that's a lot of money to
Speaker 1: just you know how like when he was young, you
Speaker 1: would spend a lot of money on some ship when
Speaker 1: you were leaving paycheck to paycheck, and it would hurt
Speaker 1: your stomach and you'd be like you might buy like
Speaker 1: a new car, stereo or some sneakers, and then when
Speaker 1: you're get in your car, you're like ship. I still
Speaker 1: felt like that though I'm cleaning with money, but I
Speaker 1: had to do it though. That's my little brother, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: eighties a lot. What's the most expensive piece of jewelry
Speaker 1: you got? Uh? Probably yeah, probably will get the fifty
Speaker 1: the fifty K guy, heh yeah, a nigga around nigga
Speaker 1: attached me. Do they do you feel? Because you know what,
Speaker 1: I see a lot with the jewelers and rappers a
Speaker 1: lot of times. Man, jewlis be taking advantage of young rappers.
Speaker 1: I see it all the time too. But you got
Speaker 1: a certain that like the lock in, like they'll throw
Speaker 1: a promo. Oh we do promo for me, right, you
Speaker 1: gotta work that angle like you got certain jewelers there
Speaker 1: for a nest too. They're like, that's why when you
Speaker 1: get there, you got to get a certified something they
Speaker 1: told me to do. But you just got to make
Speaker 1: sure you got the right dominic because they means like
Speaker 1: size and shit all up in your ship. They'll give
Speaker 1: you flawed diamonds that have that have been like filled.
Speaker 1: They'll give you the lab diamonds, or they'll give you
Speaker 1: like those super low grade cloudy boys, as Little Dirk
Speaker 1: was saying today. That's what Dirk was talking about when
Speaker 1: you think about not not the specific situation, but you know,
Speaker 1: you've obviously had some public disputes when it comes to
Speaker 1: other artists. Did you see Cowboy go at the Baby
Speaker 1: today because of the Baby's decision to do a project
Speaker 1: with NBA Young Boy. Did you see that? I see it?
Speaker 1: What I saw, I heard, so I guess the thing
Speaker 1: is is like a lot of people are mad, not
Speaker 1: a lot of people. A few people are mad at
Speaker 1: the Baby for doing a project with NBA Young Boy
Speaker 1: because NBA Young Boy obviously has problems with OTF and
Speaker 1: all those guys. And the Baby's like, I'm I'm I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of an innocent bystander in this thing. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna work with the Who'm gonna work with, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get money with them if just because I'm working with
Speaker 1: hidle mean, I ain't fucking with y'all. Like, how do
Speaker 1: you feel about something like that? Like if if someone
Speaker 1: works with let's say, somebody does a whole project with
Speaker 1: Young and Ace. Do you automatically see them as as
Speaker 1: fuck them or is it like because you don't got
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Jazzuville stuff that's going on in Jasuville,
Speaker 1: not unless you like dissant, Like no, it's no disint
Speaker 1: involved it on money like you do you like you
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing to do with nothing. That's why the
Speaker 1: industry weird right now. Bro, they're making everybody pitside. But
Speaker 1: it's super weird and it's not it's just not healthy,
Speaker 1: like yo, Like at the end of the day, like
Speaker 1: Young Boy and the Baby are both superstars, they want
Speaker 1: to do a project together, Like doesn't mean like like
Speaker 1: you said, now if they're if there's some dissing going
Speaker 1: on on that ship, I totally get it. But I
Speaker 1: feel like it's an opportunity for a lot of people to,
Speaker 1: I guess make the shade room because they want to
Speaker 1: put in two cents. They know if they say something,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get on academics. And it's like, bro, like
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Speaker 1: been the biggest like how two pocket Biggie shit was.
Speaker 1: I think it's the biggest like b for whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it that's going on right now. I
Speaker 1: know because you got every like, everybody responding, everybody making songs,
Speaker 1: everybody putting a two cents of everybody picking a side.
Speaker 1: Is blackballing going on? You're talking about the Dirk, the
Speaker 1: young boy man, it's so much going on, Like people die,
Speaker 1: Levan die, and it's just a lot of going on
Speaker 1: that shit like this, dude. What confuses me is that
Speaker 1: they're not from the same set either, not from the
Speaker 1: same hood. Uh. It feels like actual rap beef. Like
Speaker 1: it's like, what are y'all really beefing about? Is it about,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, as opposed to like,
Speaker 1: well somebody died, no, no, no now. But even then,
Speaker 1: it's like Kwando Rondo and King Vaughan are from three
Speaker 1: and a half hour flight away from each other, Like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is like going on? Where like motherfuckers
Speaker 1: really get to the point where's it gets so disrespectful,
Speaker 1: blood gets shed And y'all ain't even from the same area.
Speaker 1: This is y'all wouldn't even know who each other were
Speaker 1: for weren't for rap music. Yeah, Like, that's to me
Speaker 1: the shit that really be. I'll be seeing some of
Speaker 1: the shit to be like, like, I'm not the biggest
Speaker 1: young boy fan. I mean, I like some of his shit,
Speaker 1: but I'm not like I don't like his antics. And
Speaker 1: sometimes I feel like there's just so much unnecessary negative energy, bro.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's why when you and
Speaker 1: I talked last time you were here, it was like
Speaker 1: dope to see you kind of opening your mind to
Speaker 1: not being uh. So many people I think when I
Speaker 1: told them I was talking to you, that was the
Speaker 1: first thing they associated you with. Yea was that negative
Speaker 1: ship And you know, to talk to you, I mean,
Speaker 1: but it's been like seven or eight months later to
Speaker 1: see you in a better space. It's good. It's good
Speaker 1: to see man. Even with uh at academic I did
Speaker 1: the interview at he probably thought I was a fuck
Speaker 1: up person. He got to meet me he was like
Speaker 1: you really you cool? Right know? I ain't expect that
Speaker 1: from you. Like it just you got to meet somebody
Speaker 1: and like feel their vibe. You don't never put the
Speaker 1: judge the person because you know what I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: get a different vibe when you're on somebody. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: really a good heart to do. He got a good soul.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You used to feel people energy,
Speaker 1: that's real. How How how would you gauge academic energy
Speaker 1: at cool as there? I expect that to be like
Speaker 1: how he were like personal person like he was really
Speaker 1: how you would give me advice on I want to
Speaker 1: see you alive? I want to see you do this.
Speaker 1: I want you to He was doing the same thing,
Speaker 1: and I respect that because you ain't just talking about
Speaker 1: this all the beef. You want to see me make
Speaker 1: it as far as like as a man. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You want to see me grow. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I respect. Yeah, I like acts
Speaker 1: come up story. I think that he does perpetuate some
Speaker 1: of the the negative ship like it's kind of his
Speaker 1: it's kind of his business. I guess if he's not
Speaker 1: going to do it, someone else is going to do it,
Speaker 1: say cheese TV is gonna post, Everyone's gonna But that's
Speaker 1: this is the industry. It's their job. That's the real ship.
Speaker 1: That's their job. It's like, yo, like you can't get
Speaker 1: mad at this person, and I get mad at the
Speaker 1: thirty eight other websites and blogs that do the same
Speaker 1: fucking ship. Yeah, so many people do the same ship.
Speaker 1: They don't get the amount of negative energy to academic skits.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's the what we saw
Speaker 1: him every day on every day struggle. Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: put a face to the blog and it was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, now we know who he is. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it was, because you know what saw
Speaker 1: that when he was doing his little Warren Chicago and
Speaker 1: all that, you never knew who you are? Do you
Speaker 1: ever do he never did a ward Jacksonville? Did he?
Speaker 1: Because I know someone did, because I've seen the shar
Speaker 1: added to a lot of them. He did a lot
Speaker 1: of videos were adding to it. Do you ever go
Speaker 1: watch those YouTube videos because they got millions and millions
Speaker 1: of views. I think I saw like two three of
Speaker 1: them were pretty inaccurate, Yeah, majority of it, but they're
Speaker 1: really just going off of what the next persons said,
Speaker 1: what the news saying. You know what I'm saying, someone
Speaker 1: falls somewhat true, But I just look at it like,
Speaker 1: all blog shit, how are you in terms of just
Speaker 1: like making sure like you're staying out of the way,
Speaker 1: making sure you're staying off the radar when it comes
Speaker 1: to just keeping your business straight, Like you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of times, especially nowadays, man rappers
Speaker 1: are big targets when it comes to just taxes, law enforcement,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, Like y'all, y'all gotta tiget on your back,
Speaker 1: not only in the streets, not only when you're going
Speaker 1: to the fucking grocery store, not only all that, but
Speaker 1: on the other side of the fence too with the
Speaker 1: legal shit, Like there's fucking hip hop police divisions, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like this is a real thing
Speaker 1: that's going on, Like Like how how how mindful of
Speaker 1: view that that's that that's something to also make sure
Speaker 1: that you're out out of the way of as well.
Speaker 1: Ship Like I said, this the way you move, man,
Speaker 1: you just can't be like it's doing like say, of
Speaker 1: I know, m how can I put this? I got
Speaker 1: a I gotta. I ain't gonna even let's go to
Speaker 1: because I was implicate them. Don't do that. I'm just
Speaker 1: good to not do that. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: This is not TV. It's good, it's good. Don't implicate anything.
Speaker 1: I just mean in terms of like like are you like,
Speaker 1: are you just making sure you're on top of your ship? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like if I'll be twelve with somebody, we got, we
Speaker 1: gotta be at the same places I'm made. So I'm
Speaker 1: not done. I don't want nothing to happen ob and
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to mess up the business. And I
Speaker 1: know the police watching. So you know, I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just remove either remove myself in the situation that
Speaker 1: just get it straight, get down. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna indulge in a bush. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Have you ever been in a situation where
Speaker 1: you made the decision to get up out of there
Speaker 1: because had you stuck around, some ship might have went down,
Speaker 1: And you're like, you know what I got, I got
Speaker 1: failed me to get home too. I got a day.
Speaker 1: I gotta day to see tomorrow. Plenty of time, plenty
Speaker 1: of situations, multiple situations. That takes a lot because pride
Speaker 1: to fuck with you and like, now he gotta leave, Well,
Speaker 1: we gonna see him, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you can't get you can't get another life.
Speaker 1: This ain't GTA or a video game once you're dead
Speaker 1: your dad, bro, So you just gotta that's a mind thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, one hundred percent. And you've
Speaker 1: seen enough death close to you, man to know that
Speaker 1: this ship ain't nothing to play with exactly. You know,
Speaker 1: take take advantage of the fact that you're still here
Speaker 1: and uh, you're you're you're winning. What about on the
Speaker 1: label side, have you because are you still independent? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I got a distribution to it, create music, try to create.
Speaker 1: They distribute a bunch of people ship. But that you're
Speaker 1: fully that for people who don't know that's he's independent.
Speaker 1: What about signing? Is that something that you've gotten close
Speaker 1: to doing or is that something you're like you would
Speaker 1: consider doing, because I'm sure that the labels have called
Speaker 1: multiple labels from Gucci Man QC was from the Sun.
Speaker 1: You want upon a time, I don't know a bit Orlando,
Speaker 1: I'll pulled to meet with Atlanta, probably like last week,
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago or something like that. A
Speaker 1: lot of labels though, but that have made sense to me.
Speaker 1: What was the closest, because Gucci, I mean Gucci's I
Speaker 1: always say Gucci is probably the greatest hip hop A
Speaker 1: and R of all time. Yeah? Uh, did you like
Speaker 1: how serious we when it came to maybe getting with
Speaker 1: with Gucci or QC. I wanted to sign a Guci
Speaker 1: so bad, bro, but its just not to put the
Speaker 1: prices out there. I just couldn't sign for a one
Speaker 1: hundred thousand. That's not one hundred thousand, what's the deal? Yeah,
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand? And I'm like, I got that time,
Speaker 1: motherfucking my bank account, you know what I'm saying? Right,
Speaker 1: and jury plus you know what I'm saying. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it was a respectful decline. Yeah, but I still have
Speaker 1: signed to some but it just got to make sense
Speaker 1: a lot more sense. Or even if we do like
Speaker 1: a collaborative feature or whatever, make one off album or something,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, it just gotta make sense.
Speaker 1: But far as a full on artist deal, me signing
Speaker 1: to you for a hundred hell no, no, that's crazy. Yeah, hell,
Speaker 1: I would tell you, don't sign anywhere for less than
Speaker 1: a million dollars because you're making You're making my roy
Speaker 1: to test some month. You know what I'm saying. You're
Speaker 1: making good money off off of what you're doing right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're you're owning everything. You own the man ship
Speaker 1: with p QC. But this one was the ship with you. See,
Speaker 1: I was dead broke, like, and he tried to give
Speaker 1: me one hundred and fifty K my face and I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, I'm just saying, just thinking, like for fuck.
Speaker 1: It went through and I was talking to the people
Speaker 1: I was working with my management, but ended up not
Speaker 1: like going all the way through. So you almost did
Speaker 1: that one, y'all. Almost. I was close to doing it,
Speaker 1: but then at the end it was like nah, wow, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that takes a lot to pass up on
Speaker 1: money like that. I mean, and know yourself worse a
Speaker 1: lot of artists. I think that that whole entire record
Speaker 1: industry is based on big companies taking advantage of starving artists.
Speaker 1: And then nowadays, though I don't know if it's just
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure ever about to see it, but it's
Speaker 1: like every time I get on Instagram. I see artists
Speaker 1: complaining about their label, like, oh, don't sign it is
Speaker 1: mil Young, I mean everybody. And by the way, we're
Speaker 1: talking about Atlantic in both cases it is probably to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but I'll just be sitting that
Speaker 1: shit down there like every fucking other day that somebody
Speaker 1: complaining about their label. That'sh It's scary, bro, No, it's
Speaker 1: scary because once you sign, you can't say I want
Speaker 1: to put this out tomorrow. It's like, nah, we got
Speaker 1: to sign off on it, and then guess what your
Speaker 1: budget is this you gotta pay this. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: a shitty loan, is what it is. It's a high
Speaker 1: interest loan. So like if you would have taken that
Speaker 1: I don't know the details of the deal, but if
Speaker 1: you would have taken that hundred thousand from Gucci, you
Speaker 1: would have probably had to have made a million back
Speaker 1: off of that hundred for you to start seeing money
Speaker 1: again exactly. So you would have had to have made
Speaker 1: that hundred last for a while. And that's that's the
Speaker 1: advance game. And most most big artists that we're talking about,
Speaker 1: you talking about Meek Mill, YG's been very vocal about
Speaker 1: saw Fred o Bain say something about delp jam right.
Speaker 1: So what the the reason why these guys are so
Speaker 1: mad is because every time they drop an album, they
Speaker 1: get an advanced check and that's the last money they
Speaker 1: see from that album because they make it so hard
Speaker 1: for you to recoup that million dollars every time you
Speaker 1: turn in your album that you got to make that stretch,
Speaker 1: or you got to get them that show money, or
Speaker 1: you got to get that endorsement money, or you've got
Speaker 1: to get your features right. Because unless your album is
Speaker 1: in like Roddy Rich Diamond, you know, like some shit
Speaker 1: like that, you're probably never going to see any money
Speaker 1: off that album. And so that's why you see all
Speaker 1: these huge artists saying fuck the labels. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, they signed those deals and they and they
Speaker 1: gladly pick up that advance check when they turn that
Speaker 1: album in. What they could do is say, keep the
Speaker 1: advanced take the album, and I just want to get
Speaker 1: paid my monthly royalties off the album. Exactly. It's the
Speaker 1: short It's the long play, not the short nut, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So when artists get angry and uh,
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad because I'm like, yo, you signed.
Speaker 1: Like some of these dudes have grown ass men. Some
Speaker 1: artists really don't know. I feel like if you were
Speaker 1: young and you were super vulnerable and you got to
Speaker 1: sign that way, that's one thing. But some of the
Speaker 1: artists were talking about have re signed many times and
Speaker 1: it's like, you know this ship so like you you
Speaker 1: know you signed up for like you signed the fucking paperwork.
Speaker 1: You got the best lawyers in the music industry. Like
Speaker 1: they get something that was a problem too. I ain't
Speaker 1: real to have lawyers like that. You gotta have a
Speaker 1: lawyer want to pay. So I'm like, I ain't even
Speaker 1: to play with And don't let them be like, yo,
Speaker 1: we know a good lawyer, because then they're gonna fuck you.
Speaker 1: Get your own lawyer, and yeah, keep running up the
Speaker 1: bag independently. When the right situation crosses your table, you'll know, bro,
Speaker 1: keep ownership on your masters. Don't sign no fucking whole
Speaker 1: ass split because these fools will definitely try to get
Speaker 1: you to take seven percent of your music. They want
Speaker 1: to take your catalog. They want to and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, that independent catalog I create, we'd like
Speaker 1: to bring it over here to Atlantic and we want
Speaker 1: to own it. Would you ever sign it like somewhere
Speaker 1: like an empire, because empire is a situation. Shut empire.
Speaker 1: I think I own. They sent me like a distribution
Speaker 1: deal song like that to start off. But if it
Speaker 1: made sense, yeah, it just got to make sense to me.
Speaker 1: But just be out here. Just you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If I bring, I know what I bring to the table.
Speaker 1: I know what my numbers do on of course Apple
Speaker 1: to Spotify the YouTube. I know what I do. So
Speaker 1: for me to just give up some of my row
Speaker 1: kids and my on some masters and this and that,
Speaker 1: they got to make a lot of sense for me. Yo,
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Speaker 1: all right, Not to dive into your the stereotype of
Speaker 1: who people think you are. Having a lot of beef,
Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of ops. Currently Vladimir Putin is
Speaker 1: invading Ukraine. Yeah, you know, have you been You've been
Speaker 1: paying attention. Gas prices are fucked up right now, fucked though.
Speaker 1: I just I just saw eight p fifty in fucking
Speaker 1: West Hollywood. I was I almost threw up in my mouth.
Speaker 1: It cost me one hundred and sixty hours to fill
Speaker 1: up my suv. Yeah, terrible. Uh you're the president of
Speaker 1: the United States. How you handling Putin? If if whu
Speaker 1: Fulio is the president, how you handling this ship? We
Speaker 1: need Trump backing that motherfucker. Real shit Trump, I would
Speaker 1: have did what I had to do is war. Then
Speaker 1: what it is you can't just you can't. It's basically
Speaker 1: like a stortion. You can't just to start people because
Speaker 1: you feel like they vulnerable or you want to take
Speaker 1: back over what they got going on. You want no
Speaker 1: back under your control. So I feel like it's like
Speaker 1: you playing on on on a week. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I feel like you's finna go to
Speaker 1: jail for war crimes. I helped You're out that. I
Speaker 1: saw something like that. So if it were up to you,
Speaker 1: you would have never have gotten rid of Trump. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have kept Trump Trump was with all the
Speaker 1: Trumpet gangster like he would be with all the bullshit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have kept Trumpet the office for sure. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people, a lot of people had that
Speaker 1: PPP in that edd off of Trump. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: have kept Trumpet office. Did you are you able to vote?
Speaker 1: Are you? I don't know. I don't know what your
Speaker 1: criminal history is. I ain't no feeling. I got my
Speaker 1: gun life. I would have, by the way, But first
Speaker 1: of all, in Florida. Uh, in Florida, you could be
Speaker 1: a feeling and vote. I know you're not a feling,
Speaker 1: but I think Florida is one of the only states
Speaker 1: that you could do though. I don't even know. But
Speaker 1: I ain't no feeling. No, but you, I mean, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's dope. You do you vote? No, I don't think
Speaker 1: I voted. I don't think I ever voted in my life.
Speaker 1: I can imagine you at a just standing in line
Speaker 1: on Super Tuesday waiting to cast your Trump ballot if
Speaker 1: Trump reruns? Would you go vote for Trump? If I
Speaker 1: had a time to do it. If you had the time,
Speaker 1: you don't have to have the time. Yeah. What was
Speaker 1: your favorite part about the Trump presidency? I guess shit
Speaker 1: he parted l Wye ship and Kodak Black Kodak. Did
Speaker 1: he part of anyone? Oh? He did, save asap Rocky
Speaker 1: from uh what country? Sweden? I thought the free Joe
Speaker 1: is ody damn me or something like that a swear.
Speaker 1: I thought the same ship. They said that people was
Speaker 1: waiting outside. His family was waiting outside for him, and
Speaker 1: they did not if he would have freed, man, can
Speaker 1: you imagine the inner the how ill Joe Exotic's instagram
Speaker 1: would be right now if he was out lit? I
Speaker 1: know that ship was in Oklahoma, but if that ain't
Speaker 1: the most Florida ass ship I ever seen in my
Speaker 1: life that show. I lived in Florida, so I can
Speaker 1: speak on it. What's show? Fucking uh Tiger King? That
Speaker 1: ship happened in Oklahoma, but it is that is some Florida.
Speaker 1: Joe Exotic is some Florida ass ship, like middle of Florida.
Speaker 1: Like you've you've you've you've done these shows. Yo, Florida
Speaker 1: is such a weird it's like its own country. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if you get into certain pockets of Florida, it
Speaker 1: is backwoods, redneck hillbilly ash ship. It's crazy bro Yeah,
Speaker 1: like keys and pencil colon little towns like Gainesville, Polk
Speaker 1: County and ship like that. Yeah up up near Alabama. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll get fucked up, right. I went to jail one time,
Speaker 1: ride through them a little skirts and ship like that. Yes, Like, man,
Speaker 1: Florida is his own thing. And then there's Miami. Miami's
Speaker 1: like the only ship that's like Miami too. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: like their owner ship and it's a bunch of like
Speaker 1: rich retired motherfuckers in the South. And then yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Florida is a wild place. Man. Jacksonville they always called
Speaker 1: Jacksonville South Atlanta, I don't know, or South Georgia, South Georgia,
Speaker 1: South Georgia because it's it's so close to Georgia. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. We like probably like I went thirty form Savannah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's close to Georgia. But I feel like
Speaker 1: we we we got the number one murderer right now,
Speaker 1: We got our little own the style of music. It
Speaker 1: just like we we got the face of Florida right now.
Speaker 1: I want to call them music in what's really going
Speaker 1: on in Florida. I feel like I'm I would listen.
Speaker 1: Drake always taps in with like the young. I guess
Speaker 1: wave of what's going on in my favorite rapper two
Speaker 1: shout out? Has Drake tapped in with like you at all? Nah?
Speaker 1: He liked one of my posts though, that means he's watching.
Speaker 1: He liked one of my He's hit to what you're
Speaker 1: doing shout out? Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised, like I
Speaker 1: feel like, I feel like Drake sometimes will just pick
Speaker 1: an up and coming artist and be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: And that's why I wrote with him let Me Change
Speaker 1: Your Life Realkay a Black Boy JB. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like ship, like so many artists like that.
Speaker 1: I love who to do the same thing too, Who's
Speaker 1: he too? But but nothing's like Drake When Drake, Now,
Speaker 1: when Drake is on a record is over change. It
Speaker 1: changes the game automatically, Gold, Platinum, It's like it's automatically
Speaker 1: a singles automatically getting played everywhere. So Drake's your your
Speaker 1: your your number one, top of the top Drake. Who's
Speaker 1: who fills out the rest of your top five? Nobody? Drake,
Speaker 1: Drake times five, Drake times five. What's your favorite Drake album? Oh?
Speaker 1: Probably take Care? Oh do? I wouldn't say that oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what it is. I think take Care is his
Speaker 1: best album. Care my favorite, though is Nothing was the same. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even though take Care is better. Yeah, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: cay with that. What's that? Oh? Here is fire words
Speaker 1: with that on works was on take Care? Right, that'll
Speaker 1: take You're more of a Drake fan than me. I
Speaker 1: think it's a cook beats. That was my favorite. I
Speaker 1: used to wrap out that instrumental like back back when
Speaker 1: I was a little shout out to Drizzy. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: shit was so hard. Yeah that when I first discovered
Speaker 1: The Weekend, I ain't know. I thought The Weekend was
Speaker 1: Crew Lef. Yeah, yeah that one I first. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy A long time that was. Yeah that was
Speaker 1: ten years ago. Yeah that was a long long Yeah
Speaker 1: that damn that's ten years ago. Twenty twelve. Man, we're
Speaker 1: getting old as fuck. Oh gag. That shit made me
Speaker 1: think on twenty three I just saw something. There was
Speaker 1: some ship that just uh there was a fifteen year
Speaker 1: anniversary for some album and I was like, fuck, I
Speaker 1: remember when that shit came out. Oh my god, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm getting that up there. What are you doing in
Speaker 1: your spare time? Like just to pass the time. What
Speaker 1: are your hobbies? You play video games? Yeah? I like
Speaker 1: Call of Duty two. Kay. I saw you fucking with
Speaker 1: what's the kid's name was on twitch Aiden Ross? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, And I got a PC too. I'll be
Speaker 1: on dt A online on the PC. Shit and T
Speaker 1: Grizzly them on the world and ship should be playing
Speaker 1: in T Grizzly's thing. Yeah, that's it hard, I love
Speaker 1: that ship. Do you do the It's called role playing, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: role player. I got a twitch in all, but I
Speaker 1: ain't been on it lately. I got a twitch too.
Speaker 1: So when you do role playing on a video game,
Speaker 1: walk me through this because I played GTA, but I've
Speaker 1: only played the story mode. I've never played online like
Speaker 1: real life? How you are playing in real life? Like
Speaker 1: I say, if you want to wake up and be
Speaker 1: a doctor to the day, you're gonna wake up, go
Speaker 1: do your work. You know what I'm saying. Clock in
Speaker 1: clock got go check on the medice And it's like
Speaker 1: basically like real life, but you on your head sat talking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta really be into it though, because I saw
Speaker 1: they like set T Grizzly up and rob them in
Speaker 1: the game, and I was like, real life. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why why is this going viral? It's granted, this is
Speaker 1: what happens. That's great. They got shipped for late Bertie King.
Speaker 1: All type of shit on that bed. That'shit hard. Wow,
Speaker 1: he Grizzy is getting a bag off that ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta go crazy on Twitch because there's money, especially
Speaker 1: if you're with Aiden Ross. He's kind of like the
Speaker 1: the Drake of Twitch or no, what's the other guy's name? Ninja? No, Nina,
Speaker 1: the four you got but Ninja Ninja is rich but
Speaker 1: a and is the gold bro. Like he had a
Speaker 1: run and he had every artist in his house doing
Speaker 1: interviews on the game. Can we be honest? It was very,
Speaker 1: very surprising to me that no one robbed him because
Speaker 1: every cool at everyone was at his house and you
Speaker 1: know entouragers are there. Hey, just cool as hell, bro,
Speaker 1: I problem you get around the like, damn you cool at?
Speaker 1: How did you guys link up? Because that was such
Speaker 1: a random thing to see he did My people, my
Speaker 1: dad homeboys. But we talked about it and I gotta
Speaker 1: understand it, Like he ain't mean no harm or nothing
Speaker 1: like that. So was it him like singing along to
Speaker 1: the song he was saying along, but he ain't mean
Speaker 1: no harm. He ain't know what was going on, but
Speaker 1: he facetimed me. We talked it up and then I
Speaker 1: ended up coming to La. He would like pull up
Speaker 1: on me, and I pulled up to his house. He
Speaker 1: had so many security guards and all type of shit, like,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do shit to you, bro. Then we
Speaker 1: did the little online screaming. We talked about it is
Speaker 1: that kind of hard, like when you know that, like
Speaker 1: there are people who sing along to that record not
Speaker 1: knowing what the fuck they're singing along to. Yeah, not hard,
Speaker 1: it just I know you this not your lifestyle, so
Speaker 1: I can understand you just live to him. You like,
Speaker 1: most people don't think the way you think. Yeah, thank
Speaker 1: god you think that way, because most people are very
Speaker 1: irrational and they're like, like you said, like you know,
Speaker 1: we were talking earlier about the ship with the with
Speaker 1: the baby and NBA Young Bud, It's like, why are
Speaker 1: people so worked up over this dude? And he ain't
Speaker 1: got shit to do without it, like this whole situation. Like,
Speaker 1: but yeah, and I think that's that's a good thing. Man.
Speaker 1: What's so you say you're dropping two mixtapes and an album. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what That's kind of what my plan is gonna be.
Speaker 1: Not the album for show the two mixtapes, two mixtapes,
Speaker 1: maybe an album and shout out Quavo. He gave me
Speaker 1: the name for my mix tape. What's the name? I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna I ain't gonna drop the name yet. Quavo
Speaker 1: gave you the name though, ye like two three days
Speaker 1: ago in the club, I like that club shout out Qui.
Speaker 1: Quav was a good guy. The migos are the I mean,
Speaker 1: I think all three of them are super nice. Dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know they knew nothing about my music
Speaker 1: or nothing. Bro. Yeah, I just saw this video Offset
Speaker 1: performing Rick Flair Drip in a fur at the club?
Speaker 1: Did you see that video? Cook? And he was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: this motherfucker is a superstar. I was like that stage presents,
Speaker 1: stage presents like shout outs of Offset main ship. Who
Speaker 1: if you could pick any artist that's like more realistic,
Speaker 1: obviously you would do a whole album. So just just
Speaker 1: let's let's get rid of Drake As an answer, if
Speaker 1: you could do a collab album with anyone, who would
Speaker 1: be Uh poo, that would be fire polo. Uh, both
Speaker 1: y'all can rap. See I'm like weird. I do something
Speaker 1: like Billy Ellis and some ship like that Billie Eilish.
Speaker 1: Do you listen to her music? A couple of songs
Speaker 1: and it's a so R and B saying the name Hope.
Speaker 1: I do song with hope, Billy Eilish, Hope and pology.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take you for a Billie Eilish listener. I
Speaker 1: can make like a real mellotic type music though likely
Speaker 1: like a hart Broad type ship though like I could
Speaker 1: tap into that. There it is. Well listen, I appreciate
Speaker 1: you pulling up. We're gonna drop another freestyle too, so
Speaker 1: go check that video out. Uh, new mixtapes coming, new
Speaker 1: music come in and anything else you want to plug
Speaker 1: before where we get it out of here. Uh just
Speaker 1: tune in. Two tapes on the way dropping so on
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