1 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by called lighta Health. 2 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're John right, It's One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, 3 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you on a Tuesday. Thanks for joining 4 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: us as we woke up happy campers this morning. And 5 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: we'll get to that in just a second, because we 6 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: got a jam packed show for you today. 7 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 3: We got the Hall of. 8 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: Famer thurmon Thomas joining us in about thirty minutes time. 9 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: Looking forward to catching up with especially with the especially 10 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: with the explosion of production by one James Cook, so 11 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: looking forward to talking to him about that among other subjects. 12 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: As we've got the Cowboys coming to town this week. Thermany, 13 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Texas native although he's from Houston, right, not from. 14 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: He's from Houston. 15 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sugarland. 16 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: He was an Earl Campbell guy growing up. 17 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: They weren't we all though? 18 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: Really he was something. 19 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: And then second hour of the show the weekly appearance 20 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: from one Dan or Alatsky. Dan is traveling back from 21 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: the game we're going to talk about in just a 22 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: second from Miami. He was down in Miami Monday night, 23 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: so some of his travels may delay him a bit, 24 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: but we anticipate getting him on at some point in 25 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: the second hour. Of the show, so be sure to 26 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: stay tuned for that. 27 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: But now. 28 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: The thing that lifted everyone's spirits here in Western New 29 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: York last night the Miami Dolphins Everyone as part of 30 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: a Monday night double header Giants Packers the other one 31 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: Dolphins Titans the AFC matchup, and I watched I would 32 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: say a majority of this game, and it did not 33 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: begin well. For one, Will Levis, the rookie quarterback for 34 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: the Titans, throws a pick six on a screen pass 35 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: and the Titans are down early. They would then, after 36 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: putting themselves in position for a tie game and getting 37 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: the ball back at thirteen, all their rookie return man 38 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: inexplicably decides to touch a bouncing ball, turns it over, 39 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: Dolphins touchdown, and then Will Levis, with a horrific pitch 40 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: play behind and at the shoulder of Derrick Henry, leads 41 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: to another turnover inside their fifteen yard line. 42 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: The Dolphins cash in again. 43 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: They go down twenty seven to thirteen with two fifty 44 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 2: five left. 45 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: As four to twenty four left when they scored their touchdown, 46 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: and Tennessee, I mean they're on life support. 47 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well that is true. What was also true was. 48 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 2: Miami thought the game was over yep, And guess what 49 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: it wasn't They scored a touchdown without using a timeout 50 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 2: to make it a one score game, got a two 51 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: point conversion to cut it to six, and then go 52 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: right down the field again and score quickly again. Derek 53 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: Henry runs it in for his second touchdown of the game. 54 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: I thought Derek Henry's gonna go down short and let 55 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: him run the clock, and. 56 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: The extra point puts him up one with a minute 57 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: and forty something left in the game. And I think 58 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: the Dolphins had one time out at their disposal, and 59 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 2: their last two series. 60 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: Were a disaster, three and out, four and out. 61 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: Disaster, and they lose a game at home to a 62 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: four and eight football team. That was the first road 63 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: win for the Titans this season. 64 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what will Ouch look. Will Levis 65 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: looked really good in those last two possessions for the 66 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Very good. 67 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: Look a little Josh Allen likes. 68 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. He's built like him, he's got him, 69 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: throws like him, he's got the big arm he's and 70 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: he's a you know, big brood of a guy. Had 71 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: an angry run during the game and just you know, 72 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: raised his level through the bad interception. He's exactly like Josh, 73 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's exactly like him. First play 74 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: of the game, first series of the game, throwing the 75 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: intersect that is Josh all to a t and then 76 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: heroically drags the team on his back to victory. It 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. The Titans down fourteen, score with two 78 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: and a half to go or something or two a 79 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: little less than three to go and go for two, 80 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: which is like it's master level clock management, particularly since 81 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: they got it. The stat I was talking to Brownie 82 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: about this early. This that's that I heard was if 83 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: you go for two, it's a fifty to fifty proposition, 84 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 1: a fifty to fifty deal. So you figure you're gonna 85 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: have to go for it twice, even if you miss one, 86 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: you had to go for the second time to tie it. 87 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: So they score the first touchdown, go for to get it. 88 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: Now they're only down six, and then the extra point 89 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: puts them up. So that forces the Dolphins to kind 90 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: of try and move the ball. They can't just like 91 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: take a knee and wait for overtime. The Dolphins have 92 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: to move the ball to try and win the game, 93 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: and they just couldn't do it. They couldn't do it 94 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: to it fold it up. 95 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he turtled literally, Yeah, especially on the fourth 96 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: downplay when the pocket collapsed. 97 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: Uh. 98 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 2: They also Tyreek Hill had an injury. He was in 99 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: and out of the football game in the second half. 100 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 2: No word yet on exactly what that injury is, at 101 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: least from what I could gather. 102 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: He said the line in his postgame interview. He said, 103 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: he's been dragging his ankle around all You've been fighting 104 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: his ankle all year, right. 105 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 2: And it got aggravated and got aggravated when he got 106 00:05:57,440 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: tackled from behind it on the hip drop. 107 00:05:59,160 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 5: Yeah. 108 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: It looked like a hip drop up type tackle. 109 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: Yea, racing out to the sideline and it's his It 110 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: looked like it was his left ankle that got caught 111 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: underneath him there and bent inward awkwardly. You wonder if 112 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: it's the kind because those are the kinds that are 113 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: the high ankle sprants. 114 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 115 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: So it was not good. And I'll say this too now. 116 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: He came back, he shook it off, came back and 117 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: played well. But he wasn't one hundred percent. And when 118 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: he's not in the game, Miami is lost. 119 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: They're different. 120 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: They are they're a bad football team when he's not 121 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: on the field. I mean, you can make an case 122 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: you want to talk about an MVP without Tyreek, the 123 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins are a shadow of who they are with him. 124 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: So then he you know, he walked, he looked like 125 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: he was about to be carted off, and then he 126 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: ends up running off and firing everybody up like. 127 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 2: Okay, And then he goes he gets his ankle taped. 128 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: He comes back in, he goes back to the locker room. 129 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: His ankle is not taped. So and this is something 130 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: that he's done a lot this season. He's had to 131 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: go to the locker room out of the game, comes back. 132 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: It's done a four or five times, which speaks to 133 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: what he said. You know that he's been fighting his 134 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: ankle all season, right, that would lend some credence to 135 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: that statement. Yeah, we're getting down to the end here 136 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: and Miami's looking vulnerable. As a matter of fact, there's 137 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: stories everywhere. You know, people are all over the Dolphins now. 138 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: People are like, ah, as exciting as the Dolphins offense is, 139 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: can you trust him in the playoffs? You know, these 140 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: are the narratives being written by the journalists. But I'll 141 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: give you this one. The Tennessee Titans are the first 142 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: NFL team ever to be down fourteen points with less 143 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: than two point fifty five remaining in regulation and win 144 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: the game without needing overtime. 145 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: What was that big number again? Seven sixty seven. 146 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: Yes, previous teams in this situation with two fifty five 147 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: left and down by fourteen points are o and seven 148 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: sixty seven when the game ended in regulation. Now, there 149 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: are some teams that were in that predicament and won 150 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: in overtime. For all the ones that ended in regulation, 151 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: all seven hundred and sixty seven of them lost. 152 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: They're now one and seven hundred and sixty seven. Corredness. Gracious, 153 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: that's a that was an apocalyptic lean it was. 154 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 5: It was. 155 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable because we're talking about it today. It was 156 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: an it was an absolute catastrophic collapse. And we've seen 157 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: it here in Buffalo. We've seen it a gazillion time, 158 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: particular people of my age. If the big greatest comeback game, 159 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: and then you know the Super Bowl in Atlanta with 160 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: a New England coming back from twenty eight three in Atlanta, 161 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: the new the Indianapolis Colts puking up that lead last 162 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: year after they fired Frank Reich and Indianapolis giving up 163 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: that that lead for the great just come back in 164 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: NFL history, which overtook the greatest come back here in Buffalo. 165 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: We've all seen it. One team thinks they've got at 166 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: one and they turn off the switch. They're just trying 167 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: to get to the end of the game, and the 168 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: other team is desperate and starts taking risks that are 169 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: paying off because of the other team's casual attitude, and 170 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're giving up points right and left, 171 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: and sometimes and sometimes it is over. I mean, you 172 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: can't score that many points and they can kneel down 173 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: and win. But other times, you know, if you keep 174 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: scoring and they keep the switch off, they lose, which 175 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: is exactly what happened to Miami. Now here's the thing. 176 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: A loss like this, in some case, we've seen it. 177 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: In some cases, a loss like that can count for 178 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: two losses. I mean, you come back to the net, 179 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: you're not the right, You're not right for a while. 180 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: You know, it shakes your foundations, right. 181 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 3: You know who they have this week? 182 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: Who do they have this week? 183 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: They have the New York Jets, oh goodness down in Miami. 184 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: Pretty good defense with and Zach Wilson coming off a 185 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: three hundred yard passing game. 186 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: Okay, So here's my and here's why I bring it up. 187 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 1: I do because I do not think that this will 188 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: shake the foundation of my I think they'll be able 189 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: to bounce back from I don't think this is gonna shudder. 190 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: They're not going to go oh and four the rest 191 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: of the way. And I think they will play the 192 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: Jets and play them tough and probably win. But man, 193 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: oh man, a loss like this for a team that 194 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: doesn't have a you know, a solid guy like Tua 195 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: and a head coach like mi and you and I both. 196 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: I think Mike McDaniels a pretty good coach. I think 197 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: that leadership is going to get him through this. But man, 198 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: if you if you're at anywhere on thin ice on 199 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: a loss like this, you're losing the next one and 200 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: maybe the next two because of a collapse like that, 201 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: Because nothing you will feel good about anything you do, 202 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You start getting doubts about 203 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: every good thing that happens to you. Well, it really 204 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: doesn't matter, because we could still blow this, you know 205 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: what I mean? And it starts to affect the way 206 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: you prepare, it starts to affect the way you play 207 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: the game, it starts to affect the way you think 208 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: about the next play. That's bad. 209 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: It was bad and more than another thing. That was 210 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: an AFC conference loss for them. Now they have an 211 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: exemplary conference record at six and three, which is far 212 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: better than Buffalo at four and five, but it's a 213 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 2: conference loss, nonetheless, and so. 214 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 3: You know that hurts. 215 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: And now you're only two games ahead of the Bills 216 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 2: in the win and lost column with four to play. 217 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: And you know, the Jets had a nice win last 218 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 2: week at home, a resounding win over the Houston Texans. 219 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: They injured C. J. Stroud, put him in concussion protocol. 220 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: He's questionable this week. And you know that offensive line 221 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: for the Dolphins is a problem. They struggle, particularly when 222 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: the Dolphins are at the end of a football game 223 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: and they have to throw and the opponent no, they're 224 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: going to throw based on time on the clock, etc. 225 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: And they can't utilize that run game, which works very 226 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: well for them. It puts undue pressure on the Dolphins 227 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: pass protection and. 228 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: It's not good. It's not good, which is. 229 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: Why there are so many timing three step drop bang, 230 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 2: the ball is out type built into the structure of 231 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: the offense because number one, Tua works best in that fashion. 232 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: Number two, the offensive line and its deficiencies are hidden 233 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: best with that approach, which is why Mike McDaniel operates 234 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 2: the offense in that way. 235 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: So the ball has to come out. And I'll say 236 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: this too, even in the midst of that loss last night, 237 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: late in that game, two was making throws on time 238 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: and man, we've seen it. Man, he can drop it 239 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: into a bucket. 240 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 3: And it takes very accurate. 241 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: It takes a second for that thing to get there. 242 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: But one of the throws he made deep to the 243 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: sidelines to Tyreek last night, late in that game, right 244 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: on the sidelines, over the top underneath the safeties was elite. 245 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: But it's got to come out on time, and it's 246 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: got to be there, and it when the ball is 247 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: in the air like it is with Tua, there's always 248 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: that chance that the defensive backs can adjust and find 249 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: the ball and cover the ground before the ball gets there. 250 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: And guys like Josh Allen, now, Will Levis we've seen, 251 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson when these guys with the arm and 252 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: justin Herbert, when they throw it, you got to be 253 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: in position when the ball's out of his hand, or 254 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: you're going to be it's gonna get there before you 255 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: can even turn your head. TUA does give them some 256 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: limitations in their offense, no question about it. But they've 257 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: been over to overcome them to a large degree, and 258 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: we saw a lot of it last night. I'll say 259 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: this though, the only reason that was a game of 260 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: the nature we're talking about is because Tennessee tried to 261 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: hand the game to Miami. It was thirteen thirteen. Tennessee, 262 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: who's not a very good football team this year, was 263 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: taking Miami right down to the why I mean right 264 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: down to the wire. It was four minutes to go 265 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: in the game and it was thirteen thirteen, and Tennessee, 266 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: who now is five and eight and they were four 267 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: and eight last night, had no business being on the 268 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: field with a team like the Dolphins, who were, you know, 269 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: playing really well this season, and yet without two incredibly 270 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: lucky plays and self inflicted plays by Tennessee, the Miami 271 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. That game's thirteen thirteen. 272 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: Ye in the two minute warning. 273 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: And you say, well, it's just one game. The Bills 274 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: are still two games back. That loss in the New 275 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: York Times playoff Machine improved things considerably for Buffalo. After 276 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: that loss last night by Miami, Buffalo's playoff odds improved 277 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: from about the low twenty percents to forty nine percent, 278 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: and their chances of winning the AFC East went from 279 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: about three percent to twenty three percent. That shows you 280 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 2: what one week can do to shift things in your favor. 281 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 2: I'll say this, and the Bills were the big winners 282 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: last night. Their playoff odds improved by twenty three percent 283 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: for one game. That was the highest of all the 284 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: other teams that were impacted positively on the AFC side 285 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: of the playoff ledger. 286 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: And they don't We've said this before about other teams. 287 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: It's true about the Dolphins as well. They don't make 288 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: their own schedule, just like we said about them. But 289 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: the Dolphins have beaten the Commanders, the Jets, the Raiders. 290 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: In their last three games. 291 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: They're all payme over the tay Wait, the Patriots, the Panthers, 292 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: the Giants and then early in the season Broncos when 293 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: they couldn't win a game, the Patriots again and the Chargers. 294 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Broncos are the only team of the winning 295 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: record that they have a win against. And when they 296 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: beat them, they were owing. 297 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: Too and they went to own three, they went to Owen, 298 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: they went to one in five. 299 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: Which one in five. So the Broncos now are a 300 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: team that has gotten it together and they're completely different 301 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: squad than when the Dolphins played. I mean, that's the 302 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: only team that the Dolphins played that now has a 303 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: winning record. Yeah, and that they have beaten. They've lost 304 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: to the Bills, they've lost to the Eagles, they've lost 305 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs, and now are the Titans. 306 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: So before we get to our topic of discussion with 307 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: you today at eight h three h five fifty one 308 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty, we're gonna quickly 309 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: run through injury updates that Sean McDermott provided to the 310 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: media late yesterday after we were off the air, And 311 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: I guess these kind of qualify as Bill's practice updates. 312 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: Even though the team is not practicing today, they will tomorrow, 313 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: but they'll be doing it without these two players. Practice 314 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: updates presented by Lee com your Lake Erie College of 315 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: Osteopathic Medicine aj EPINESSA, who we saw leave last week's 316 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: game with a rib injury, considered week to week by 317 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, and usually when they have that designation, they 318 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: do not play in the next game, excuse me. 319 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: And also week to week. Micah Hyde with. 320 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 2: A next stinger and it's something he has been dealing 321 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 2: with for several weeks this season. He is also considered weak, 322 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: so a good chance that Taylor Rapp starts in his 323 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: absence this week, although neither of those players have been 324 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: ruled out for this week's game. Dalton Kincaid been dealing 325 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: with a shoulder ailment. He is considered day today. Got 326 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: his shoulder checked out during the game, but did return 327 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: and finished against Kansas City this past week, So day 328 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: to day for Dalton Kinkaid and one other item, defensive 329 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: tackle day Kwan Jones. A media member asked about his 330 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: status and the chances of him coming back by season's end, 331 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: and head coach Sean McDermott characterized it this way. He said, first, 332 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 2: there is a chance that day Kwon Jones returns to 333 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: the lineup by the end of the season. Whether that 334 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: means Week eighteen, first week of the playoffs, we do 335 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 2: not yet know. But he said that day Kwan has 336 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: been working hard. He's been here at the facility every 337 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: day with the strength and conditioning staff and is getting closer. 338 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: And coach McDermott put it this way, he does not 339 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: yet have the green light, but at this point in time, 340 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: the light has moved from red to yellow, and so 341 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: he is a step closer to getting back on the 342 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: active roster and back playing games with his teammates, and 343 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: that would be a seismic addition to the defensive front. 344 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Day one, to his credit, you and I, 345 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, bounce around the building. We don't get it. 346 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: We don't talk to players or just about anybody very much. 347 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: We bumped into Dake one. This was like what five 348 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: weeks ago, Yeah, it was early. He was like two 349 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: or three weeks in his rehab process. Yeah. He was 350 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 1: standing and he had his arm like still had his 351 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 1: arm in his slat. Arm was gonna sling bad iness 352 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: to his chest, you know, like across his chest. And 353 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: you know how you doing that? You know the pleasantries 354 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, what's the prognosis? I go, 355 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: how long is it going to be? He goes, well, 356 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: he goes He said, like ten twelve weeks, which and 357 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: this was like week four. Yeah, so it's like ten 358 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: twelve weeks. Well that's week sixteen. 359 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: It wasn't that early. We talked to him like week 360 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: six he was saying. 361 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: That it was yeah. But the thing was, it was like, 362 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: because he got hurt in week it was a couple 363 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: of weeks before the end of the season that he 364 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: was gonna be like yeah, okay, he goes, yeah, and 365 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: I go, are you gonna I go? So you get 366 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: a chance to He goes, oh yeah, he goes, and 367 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: he was like enthusiast, He's like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna go. 368 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: Like he it was fully his it was determined. He goes, 369 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: is fully his intent. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be back, 370 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: and I hope they let me and there's a spot 371 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: for me that I can get back, because you know, 372 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: he knows as well as we do, as we've seen 373 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: a zillion things can change between now and then. You 374 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: may not want they might want him to come back, right, 375 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: but he's always thought, he has always believed in my 376 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: mind that he is gonna come back and play this season. 377 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: So that's it's kind of fun to hear that light 378 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel kind of start to shine, 379 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: and we'll see if it if it actually arrives in 380 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: time for the end of the season. 381 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: And we'll obviously get more information on Wednesday when the 382 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 2: team is back on the practice field and the. 383 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: First injury report of the week is released. 384 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: But topic a discussion for you today, What did the 385 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: Dolphins collapse on Monday night football against the Titans mean 386 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: to you when you woke up this morning? Can let 387 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: us know at eight h three oh five fifty eight 388 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty the number to get on board. 389 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: We do have some open lines for you there. You 390 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: can hit us up on the tweetsheet at one Bill's Live. 391 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 2: But let's go to the phones. And leading us off 392 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 2: today is Bob and Hamburg. 393 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 3: What do you got for his? 394 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 6: Bob, I woke up smiling with the bed they were losing. 395 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 6: I said, ah, now they're gonna lose. They could wake 396 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 6: up this morning at seven o'clock and Miami Dolphin's loss. 397 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 6: I loved it. And by the way, at the one 398 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 6: part about last week's game, I loved how the team 399 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 6: gave mcdermick the game ball. And I got to tell 400 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 6: you two guys something my friend Dorothy didn't know nothing 401 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 6: about football until I met her. She considers you, there's 402 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 6: her soap opera. Now she's learning so much about football. 403 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 6: She's loving it. 404 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. 405 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: Well, if she likes soap operas, she's probably loved the 406 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 2: drama of this season as well. 407 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: Right, all right, all. 408 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: Right, I hope you're right. 409 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 410 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of people gave up on the 411 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 2: Titans last night when they went down. 412 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: It was late twenty seven to thirteen. 413 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 7: You know. 414 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: One of the other things about last night there were 415 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: two games on the Green Bay Giant game, the Packer 416 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: Giant game, and the Titan Dolphin game. You're you're not 417 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: a fan of the two games the doubleheader simultaneously. 418 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 2: Like I tell you, I'm I'm a I've always been 419 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: a big AFC guy, right, and so if I have 420 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 2: that choice, last night, I'm I hung with the AFC 421 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: game the whole night. 422 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: I never flipped to the other one. 423 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: I saw that they did some cut ins and they 424 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 2: put the score. 425 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 3: Bug up in the corner of the screen. 426 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: They put two boxes up. 427 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, but they put the score bug up ye other games. 428 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: I was nice. 429 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 2: I kept track that way, and it looked like a 430 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: compelling game, like it was back and forth there. 431 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Tommy DeVito bringing him back for the field goal. 432 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 3: That was great. 433 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: It's I thought it was okay, Well, here's the thing. 434 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: We can all say, yes, last night it was have 435 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: a problem with it, right, But it was fun. It 436 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: was great because you had two compelling games. And I 437 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: asked at Tommy DeVito and Sean Stillado, you know thing 438 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: going to the agent that looked like a cartoon figure, 439 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: and the bills implications with the Dolphins and the tight 440 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: So it was good. But you could easily see where 441 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: it'd be a waste of an evening if you had 442 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: a thirty five to three drubbing and a and a 443 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: twenty four to three drubbing on the other side, if 444 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: it was bad football and it was the Arizona for 445 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: like for US, for instance, Arizona and Seattle. You know, 446 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: I got I have nothing, I have no skin in 447 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: that game. And it was some other teams that we 448 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: didn't have any skin in the game with, like it 449 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: was if it was you know, the Rams and Denver 450 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: or something, you know who nobody cares right, so and 451 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: if they were lopsided games where but both these games 452 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: were really good. They had meaning because it was late 453 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: in the season, particularly on the AFC side because of 454 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: the long jam. So I liked the two games at 455 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: the same time because I could if I got bored, 456 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: I could flip it back. 457 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 3: That's the thing. 458 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: If one of them turns out to be a dog, 459 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: you've got an alternative, right. I was just glued to 460 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 2: the Miami game for obvious reasons. It was you know, 461 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 2: it's an opponent coming up for us. How's Miami looking? 462 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: That kind of thing. 463 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: You think about it. There's only about five minutes of 464 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: that game real time that weren't good. It was a 465 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: thirteen thirteen game punt, then it was twenty to thirteen, 466 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: then it was twenty seven thirteen, and you think, okay, 467 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: that's that's when it got. 468 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: Bats when everybody turned in for the night. 469 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: Then Will Levis comes in. 470 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: I stuck with it. 471 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: I did too, I was holding I did too. I 472 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay. Then they come back and they 473 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: come back, boom boom. They get a touchdown and I'm 474 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: thinking okay, and they go for two after the first touchdown, 475 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: which man ole Man, that's beyond me. I've always I've 476 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: always had a lot of respect for Mike Vrabel, but 477 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: I think he should owe the kind of poe like 478 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: late game management that some most guys don't even most 479 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 1: fans for sure don't even like what. You're going for two? 480 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 7: Why? 481 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: And the thought is that I'm going for the He's 482 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: going for the win. He's trying to win the game. 483 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: He was down fourteen five seconds ago. Now he's down 484 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: eight and he's trying to win it. That is an 485 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: incredible mindset, an incredible mindset that I think other coaches, 486 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: even the ones you gotta you gotta look at that 487 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: and say, man, you gotta be there. That's right where 488 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: you gotta be. Yeah, he goes for two first first 489 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: and then gets it. That's how you go from oh 490 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: and seven hundred and sixty seven to one and seven 491 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven. That's how you win games like that. 492 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: I was. I thought it was absolutely After. 493 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: That touchdown in two point conversion, you could just see 494 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: everybody on the Miami sideline getting tight. 495 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: You super tight, baby. You could feel it. You could 496 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: feel it. Then they come, Miami goes three and out. 497 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: Will Levis comes on two and a half minutes ago. 498 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: Still right, I mean, there's still a lot of time. 499 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: He comes in and bingo thirty six yards to DeAndre 500 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: on a deep over and it's like, oh you could. 501 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: Then it was like oh how It's like Miami can't 502 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: stop him. They're done. It's like over, it was over. 503 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: Then Tennessee goes in, scores the touchdown, kicks the extra 504 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: point to go ahead. It's I mean, it could not 505 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: have been. 506 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 3: But there was plenty of time left. Miami had a timeout. 507 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: Best part of that the whole broadcast. They score go 508 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: ahead by one, they show two a tongue I lo 509 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: on the sidelines and he's like got this. 510 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 5: Like we got this. 511 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody I got dapping him up. 512 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: We got hey they if there's too much time, we 513 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: got this. We all we need a field goal, dude, 514 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: let's go. He's putting his helmet ones going yeah yeah, 515 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: like like hey, yeah, yeah, we got it. We got 516 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna be watch me be a hero. Check me out. 517 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: That's where that's exactly what he looks like. He's given 518 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: the big non verbal yeah yeah, like nodding his head 519 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: like yeah, I've seen We've got this. Let's go, and 520 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: he goes out and crumbles. The whole offense crumbles. 521 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: On the last play. 522 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: It was for Bills fans, so that fourth down play 523 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: was absolutely delicious. 524 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: It was like, so you let us you let us 525 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 2: know what did this Dolphins collapse to the Titans on 526 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: Monday night mean to you. 527 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: Let's uh, let's go to Mark new in Jersey City? Here, 528 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: what do you go for? 529 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: His Mark? 530 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 8: That was a jarring collapse And I'm Steve, this is 531 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 8: the kind of this is the kind of loss that 532 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 8: can destroy a team. That I mean. Mike McDaniel, for 533 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 8: all his praise, his time out utilization, his late game 534 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 8: management is not good. He did the same thing in 535 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 8: Buffalo last year with some of his wasted timeouts when 536 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 8: he had Skyler Thompson under center. And this is supposed 537 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 8: to be a dude that was in the MVP discussion. 538 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 8: They had the ball twice late game and they vomited 539 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 8: all over themselves. There's a lot of smoking mirrors in 540 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 8: that offense. But when that kid, he's so traumatized, and 541 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 8: rightfully so. He was concussed brutally three times last year. 542 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 8: When he feels it, he like likes, like Chris says, 543 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 8: he turtles, He totally just he cannot make a play 544 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,959 Speaker 8: above the x's and o's and in order to be 545 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 8: a dude in this league and get where you want 546 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 8: to go, you have I mean Josh on Sunday with 547 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 8: the with the Murray, the Murray throw and then the 548 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 8: run into the end zone. This coach gets a lot 549 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 8: of praise nationally because I think the media identifies him 550 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 8: with some in some weird way. But you know, McDermott 551 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 8: was feeling the heat last week because the media doesn't 552 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 8: identify with him in a lot of ways. And Ben 553 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 8: Johnson all the love he got in the lines. Go 554 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 8: listen to them. They're on to him. They can't play. 555 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 8: I think they're on to Miami too. And look at 556 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 8: their gauntlet they have coming up. It is a murderer's road. 557 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 8: That collapse was Dick Jaron Trett word ESK last night. 558 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: Yes, I'll say this. I'll say this Mark. We talked 559 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: about that earlier in the show. A loss like this 560 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: at the wrong time or whatever could like count for two. 561 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: You know, you hear guys talk about that once in 562 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: a while where a loss is so devastating that it 563 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: counts like they lose the next week because of it. 564 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: And I don't know that this is going to do 565 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: that to Miami. I like Mike McDaniel a little more 566 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: than you do. Maybe in this scenario, I think he'll 567 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: be able to right the ship, and oddly enough, he 568 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: may use humor to do it. Say, guys, you know 569 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: what I mean. And Tua is a solid guy. He's 570 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: going to come back and give you whatever he's got. 571 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: He's whatever it is. He's going to be flat. I mean, 572 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna be He's not going to dip because of this. 573 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: So I think they'll be able to get through this. 574 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: But you're right, a collapse like this, it does leave 575 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: some scars and we'll see if they can come back 576 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: and bounce back and do it again next week. 577 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: Going, you're going against the top five defense this week. 578 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: That's right. And I'll say this, that's two teams that 579 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: are coming in off opposite ends of the spectrum. The 580 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: Jets played as good a football game as they've ever seen, 581 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: and they got this Zach Wilson, who actually looks like 582 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback once and it's like now they're like, hey, let's. 583 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: Go, oh wow, we can score some points. 584 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: And Miami's coming in. Theyre going, man, we can't even 585 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: beat the Titans. In fact, we look horrible losing to them. 586 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: So I know Mike McDaniel after the game last night 587 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: said this is the kind of loss that can galvanize 588 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: a team. So that's the narrative he's trying to craft 589 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: with his own club, and you understand why, because the 590 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: alternative is not good. So he's got to push that 591 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: narrative and hope that his team responds in kind, and. 592 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: We'll see if they do. 593 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're playing a New York Jets defense that is 594 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: fifth overall, eighth in points allowed, and they're also top 595 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: ten in sacks per play and they're number two in 596 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: the league against the pass. 597 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 3: So they're not going against his slouch. 598 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: They're going against a team that knows them very well, 599 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: and strength on strength here, they're gonna have Dolphins offense 600 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: Jets defense. 601 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna have to play and play really well 602 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: to beat the Jets and score points on the Jets. 603 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips being out of the Dolphins lineup is a 604 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: huge loss for them. That hurt him last night. But 605 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm telling you it was noticeable without Tyreek on their 606 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball in Miami, they were they 607 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: were not the same dudes. It's like all of us. 608 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch that Miami game this coming week and 609 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: Miami Jets game, and I'm gonna I'm gonna watch it 610 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: close because I I think it's really interesting now with 611 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: the Jets rolling in there. 612 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 2: Break time for us because when we come back, we 613 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: have the Hall of Famer here, Furrman Thomas gonna join us. 614 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: Talk a little, James Cook with him, a guy with 615 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: whom he texts regularly, and some other subjects coming up here, 616 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: including the rest of Buffalo schedule when we return here 617 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Collide of Health, It's 618 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. 619 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, and the Hall of Famer them 620 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: and Thomas joined us here at Studio Therm. 621 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: How you doing. Happy holidays? 622 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, same to you. 623 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 2: And speaking of the holidays, your family Foundation has an 624 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: event coming up Holidays twenty twenty three. 625 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: This December fifteenth. Tell us about it's what's going on. 626 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 9: Having a little vent for our Thermer Thompson Family Foundation 627 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 9: down at the Barrel Factory. 628 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I've been there, yeap, love that place. 629 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 9: We had it there last year. It's right in their 630 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 9: little convention center. So, yeah, it's having it this Friday. 631 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 9: Got about about thirty more tickets to go, so, you know, 632 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 9: just putting a little putting a little push in for 633 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 9: the Family Foundation, you know, all. 634 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: Right, so they can get their tickets. I'm guessing online. 635 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 4: Right, yes, on Lie, So he's. 636 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: Gonna, We're gonna we'll get a link. 637 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 4: We'll tweet the link out. 638 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're on our one Bills live hand or 639 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: we'll tweet out how you can get tickets if you're 640 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: interested in showing up. 641 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: December fifteenth, that's. 642 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 4: His Friday, Just Friday up fast, Yeah, coming up fast. 643 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: What what do you think so much about the Bills 644 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: winning Kansas City and Canarious Tony's not lining up off 645 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: sides and all that. 646 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 9: You know what, man, I figured everybody's kind of had 647 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 9: their say about it. Sure, And hey, my number one 648 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 9: saying from that game after that game was. 649 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 4: How come Cooking not chucking the ball in the second half? 650 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: Cooks not car carrying the ball. 651 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: So I have an answer for you, because Joe Brady 652 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: talked to the media yesterday and he was asked about that, 653 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 2: and he basically said it had nothing to do with 654 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 2: trying to get other players involved or anything like that. 655 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: If you remember, in the second half, after the field 656 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 2: goal drive, which he was on the field for, they 657 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: go three and out, and they go three and out again. 658 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: Now you can argue part of the reason they went 659 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: three and out was because Cook was not. 660 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 3: On the field. 661 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 2: But he said, we never really got in a rhythm 662 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: on those next two possessions, and so they never got 663 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 2: around to substituting and getting people in like Cook. To me, 664 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: I would argue, put them on the field to start. 665 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 7: The drive, right. 666 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, But that was kind of the reasoning from Joe 667 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: Brady as to why it wasn't any It had nothing 668 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: to do with, you know, we're not trying to get 669 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: cooked the ball, let's get other people involved. It was 670 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 2: more we never got the next two drives together, and 671 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 2: then by the time you got to their next possession, 672 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: you're already in the fourth quarter. 673 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 674 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 9: Well, I can say, but the first couple of drives, 675 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 9: I mean, five out of six plays throw the ball right. 676 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 2: But to your point, and I said this yesterday, the 677 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: guy touched the ball fifteen times, and at one hundred 678 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 2: and forty one yards of total offense, he's got to 679 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 2: touch it more. He's gotta be up around twenty five 680 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 2: at the end of the game. 681 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: But thinking twenty is his thing, right, you gotta give 682 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: him twenty touches throw pass. I don't care if it's 683 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: nineteen catches in one run or nineteen runs one catch, and. 684 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: If you do, you probably score more than twenty points. 685 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. See what you think about this, 686 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: because I after the game, I thought this. At first 687 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: quarter and a half of that Chiefs game, for the 688 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: first time in five years since Josh has been the dude, 689 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: there was somebody else who was the engine of the 690 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: offense for a minute, just for a minute, and it 691 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: wasn't Steph. It wasn't Steph. It was James. Cook was 692 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: the absolute eng He caught it, he ran it, he 693 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: did everything, and for that minute or that stretch of 694 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: the game, for the first time in all those years, 695 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: you didn't have to have Josh, you know, step into 696 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: the phone booth, put the cape on the comeback out 697 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: and make it first down, you know exactly. I thought 698 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: it was awesome. 699 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 9: And I think that's kind of what happened in the 700 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 9: second half. It was like we did so well. Would 701 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 9: Cook Kincaid and everybody. I mean, dig's whatd had one 702 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 9: or two catches and they were kind of. 703 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: Like screening four catches for twenty four yards. A couple 704 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: of drops in there. 705 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of drops in there. 706 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 9: But I mean I've been saying it since the beginning 707 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 9: of the season. If this kid needs to touch the 708 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 9: ball at least fifteen or twenty times. 709 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 2: Ago, and I've been on that train. I've been riding 710 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 2: that train with you for about last month and a half. 711 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 4: I mean, he can catch the ball. 712 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 9: I think the only thing that you may be worry 713 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 9: about is maybe it's blitz blitz. 714 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 3: I think that's why Murray Murray on the third down. 715 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, but you know what. 716 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 4: Put him up on the line of scrimmage. 717 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 9: I mean, there's no retail me that both. I feel 718 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 9: like the check down. Come on, you can't beat that linebacker. 719 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 9: I know he could beat that linebacker. There's no way 720 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 9: that he can state that. Even if you blitz, that's 721 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 9: the perfect time of what on the screen. We ain't 722 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 9: ran the screen all year long, right, So I think 723 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 9: Cook has the advantage. 724 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 7: It's just. 725 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 10: If they blitzed, he might not pick it up as 726 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 10: well as Murray does. 727 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: That's but to your point. 728 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 2: But to your point, there's no reason that Murray and 729 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 2: Cook can't be on the field the same time on 730 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: third down and you just use Cook as why that 731 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 2: line of up it may do that half the time 732 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: he's on the. 733 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 9: Used Gilliam a lot to the full back. So yeah, 734 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 9: I mean replace him with Murray. 735 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 4: Yeah what? 736 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: And I think too that with Kincaid being as productive 737 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: as he is and Cook coming into that role as well, 738 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: certainly that will help Steph Diggs get back on track 739 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: because I think the one problem is, and I was 740 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: talking about this, and you know what it's like if 741 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: you can't get if you're always looking up and you 742 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 1: got this guy on your face and then a guy 743 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: right behind him is like you get beat up, like golly, 744 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: come on man, you know, let me play right. And 745 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: I think a little bit of that happens to Steph 746 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: where he's like, man, I'm they're taking me. What can 747 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: somebody do something with me over here? With like nine 748 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 1: guys guarding me, could like the other two somebody im open, right, 749 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: And I think it was a little bit of that 750 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: going on. 751 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 3: That didn't happen. 752 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 2: It's on Sunday, like separation was an issue for the 753 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: receiving corps. Yeah, I mean Cook as your leading receiver 754 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 2: with five catches. 755 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 9: For a look at the Chiefs over the past, they've 756 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 9: gotten better at defense. 757 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 3: Oh, their defense is the strength. 758 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 9: I mean their defense is back the backfield, the back 759 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 9: part of They have gotten better considerably over the last. 760 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 3: Couple of drafted three guys last year. Yes, he's very 761 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:01,879 Speaker 3: very good. 762 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 10: Yeah, and he and he's he might be what six. 763 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: Footers, he's about six foot about six foot. 764 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 9: So he's a bigger corner than we're probably used to seeing. 765 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 9: But yeah, I totally agree with that. Get more players involved. Man, 766 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 9: it's I know Steph is like, man, I need to 767 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 9: melky and he probably not saying that, but you know 768 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 9: we're we're watching the game and we say the same thing. 769 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 4: Right, and we say the same thing. 770 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 3: So okay. 771 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 2: So they get arguably the most difficult victory on the 772 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 2: road at Arrowhead of the five remaining games that they had. 773 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 2: Not that this one's gonna be easy either with Dallas 774 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: coming in, but it feels as though the team just 775 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 2: watching the players coming off the field, seeing them in 776 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 2: the locker room after the game, there is this sense like, hey, 777 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 2: we got one of the really tough ones out of 778 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: the way here and we got the win. What does 779 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 2: that do for the team going forward? Do you think 780 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: knowing you got a really hard one that maybe not 781 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 2: everybody thought you were gonna get. Yeah, you know, on 782 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: this on this run where you know you got to 783 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 2: probably get them all. 784 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean getting that, getting that victory and seeing 785 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 9: kind of Kansas City kind of explode there at the 786 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 9: end or whatever, you know what mindset. 787 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 10: You know, we have the best record against them, like. 788 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: During the regular seasons, their fourth regular season win there 789 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 2: since mcdermomy took. 790 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: Off exactly, beating Mahomes three times. Yet except for us. 791 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 9: Except for us, And so yeah, hey we took out 792 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 9: the big boys. Hey we should have won in Philly. 793 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 9: Dallas just destroyed Philly. They're coming in there, but they're 794 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 9: gonna be at home. We're gonna be at home. Yeah, 795 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 9: different different, different team. When when they're here in that stadium, 796 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 9: it just is, I know the players feel it. 797 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 10: Now you think about this beat Dallas Chargers, No herb 798 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 10: Come on, man, it's right there, It's right there for 799 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 10: this football team. And let me tell you another thing. 800 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 9: To the rally crowded, those guys did it and tics uh. 801 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 10: Coach McDermott like the old guy's got your back. 802 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 1: That's right. 803 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,959 Speaker 10: They had his back in that football game in his show. 804 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 9: In the show, Yeah, Sean mcdermald like a different coach 805 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 9: almost over on the sideline. 806 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean it saw him smile on the sideline, just 807 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: standing there. 808 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, just standing there smiling. 809 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 4: It was. 810 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: It was a different. 811 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 3: Atmosphere after the fourth down player you're talking about. 812 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: No, no, the whole game. Yeah, yeah, smiles on it. 813 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: They showed him and he was you know, either way 814 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: he was listening to on the headsets or whatever. They 815 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: were talking the conversation go back he had. He was 816 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: light heart. He seemed more light hearted. And I also 817 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: liked at the end of that game the mentality they showed. 818 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: Certainly they're in that last two minute drill when when 819 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 1: they were going at the end of the game. We've 820 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: talked about it a ton fans has been coming out 821 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: and why did they Why didn't they run the ball 822 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: get it to the two minute warning. Listen, on first down, 823 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: they throw it right to Diggs. If he catches that, 824 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: it's like a running play, stays in bounds, but he 825 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: drops it and then the next play. 826 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 3: It's a shot to the end. 827 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: It's a shot to the end zone. And I think 828 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: that's on Josh more than it is on some on 829 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: Brady Brady. And then you know the then the incompletion 830 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: that and they didn't get to the two minute warning. 831 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: They give those guys a chance to get back in. 832 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: But I thought the aggression and that mentality of particularly 833 00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: from the coaching staff, is put given it the play, lesson, 834 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you these plays, get it done, let's go. 835 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: Instead of coaching scared lesson, we're we're not coach in 836 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: a way that won't let you make mistakes. Is a 837 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: totally different mindset. Talk about what it means to a 838 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: player when you know that coaches, you can feel it 839 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: in the play call. 840 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 10: You can feel it everywhere. 841 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah you can. 842 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 9: It's like whatever play call they call, it's gonna work. Yeah, 843 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 9: it's gonna work. And you know what, I'm thinking the 844 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 9: same thing if coach call this play, our mindsets are 845 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 9: speaking the same way, and it just goes through everybody. 846 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's just yeah, oh yeah, we got this play. 847 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 10: We've seen that play on film, scrimmage on Thursday or whatever. 848 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 4: We know this play. 849 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 10: It just comes in the I mean it's the comic 850 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 10: confidence because people ever. 851 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 9: Really saw like McDermott on the side because usually he's 852 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 9: like clapping. 853 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 4: It all like no, no, no, it was doing this and. 854 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 10: Like yeah right, I mean he was really in the 855 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 10: whole sideline. 856 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: It's interesting. Yeah, it's interesting too because you're right, you're 857 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: in the huddle and I wasn't in the huddle that much. 858 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: But when you get in the huddle and they call 859 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: this play, you think you can remember during the week, 860 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: the conversations you had when they installed the place, say 861 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do, and here's why, here's d 862 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: da da da. So you remember all of that stuff 863 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,760 Speaker 1: and say, oh yeah, yeah, all right, and you really 864 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: feel prepared. And Marv used to say, your team is 865 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: morale is the highest when you feel you're the most prepared. 866 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: So when you make a call like that and the 867 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: guys are like, going, that's exactly the call I was expecting, 868 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: and man, oh man, it's it goes shoot your confidence 869 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: through the roof. 870 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 9: I can remember a playoff game against Kansas City here 871 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 9: I think the first time we played the Chiefs. We're 872 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 9: in the formation andres in the slot. BB's on the 873 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,919 Speaker 9: outside and Lofton's on the other side, and Jim called 874 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 9: an audible knew exactly what you can see. Like the 875 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 9: players look up and go like, oh, there's j C. Pearson, 876 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 9: the number four. He's one on one with Andre Jim changeable, 877 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 9: and you just knew it. I touchdown to I think 878 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 9: that's what these guys are feeling right now. 879 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well, we'll talk more about this Cowboys 880 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 2: game coming up, and we have a Robb Ray update 881 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 2: for Thurman as well to give him a little ammunition 882 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 2: against his good friend Razor. When we come back here 883 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo 884 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 2: Bills Radio. 885 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 3: You're on One Bill's Live. 886 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:49,399 Speaker 2: Chris brown Steed task here in the Hall of Famer 887 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 2: three when Thomas joining us here. All right, theam SO 888 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,040 Speaker 2: Dallas is up next here at High March Stadium on Sunday. 889 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 3: But as you know, they have. 890 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 2: Some alpha dogs on that team, particularly on their defensive line. 891 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 2: To Marcus Lawrence, Michaeh Parsons, Stefan Gilmour looks like he's 892 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 2: found the fountain of youth. He's playing great on the 893 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 2: back end, and that dron Bland kid who used to 894 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 2: be their slot corner has now moved outside since they 895 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 2: lost Trayvon Diggs for the year, and all he's got 896 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 2: is five pick sixes on the season, which is already 897 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,280 Speaker 2: an NFL record. 898 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think, but the last couple of weeks have 899 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 9: been getting kind of cooked lately. You think something been 900 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 9: putting them on one on one more one on one coverage, 901 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 9: and it hasn't been as good as good as it 902 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 9: was at the beginning of the year. I didn't, to 903 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 9: be honest with I didn't even know who he was. 904 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 9: You know, not slap against him, but I just didn't 905 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 9: know he was and where he came from, because you 906 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 9: think it's gonna be Digs a hole and there's some 907 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 9: guy stepping in. But but like you said, again, though, 908 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,959 Speaker 9: Stefan is playing really really well now at the age 909 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 9: of what. 910 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 3: Thirty two thirty two? Yeah, and really good. 911 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 4: I guarantee you A. J. Brown won't call him old again. 912 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a mistake. 913 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 9: That was a mistake. I mean, you're you're as much 914 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 9: as you know. I know he would here. I mean 915 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 9: he's putting in pretty good numbers to I would be 916 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 9: considered going to the Hall of Fame. 917 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 3: I think he's a porterline Kennedy. 918 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: He is Defensive Player of the Year. Yeah, won Super 919 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: Bowl with the Patriots. Was a little bit like those 920 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: guys are, like Darrell Reeves, kind of at the end 921 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: of their career. They're kind of mercenaries. They get they 922 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: hop from team to team a little bit like like 923 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: Jalen ram would. They picked their spot and they parachute 924 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: in make a difference on the team and get good numbers. 925 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 9: I think that's why he went to Dallas thinking he's 926 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 9: gonna have digs on underside, right. 927 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 4: That takes it off. 928 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 9: So yeah, yeah, I think he's Yeah, I think he's 929 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 9: definitely in a conversation for Hall of Fame, no doubt 930 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 9: about it. 931 00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 2: Linebacker level might be where the Bills have to exploit 932 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 2: that Dallas defense because not only do you have to 933 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 2: get it out quick, but you may be able to 934 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 2: out athlete them at that second level. 935 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 936 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's gonna be a tough and I mean, obviously, 937 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 9: you know with Lawrence and Parsons, I mean it's gonna 938 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,719 Speaker 9: be so. 939 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 10: Crucial for for for. 940 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 9: For Brown Spencer and then to really you know, set 941 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 9: that stage early in the game. 942 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 3: It needs some Max protect mixed in there too. 943 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean some chipping every now and then from 944 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 9: the back coming out of the backfield or what have you. 945 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 10: So, yeah, it's gonna be uh, it's gonna be a 946 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 10: dog fight with those guys. 947 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 9: But you know what, even with saying that, you know, 948 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 9: like like we said, I mean when the Cowboys have 949 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,839 Speaker 9: faced the legit team, they have not played well. 950 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 3: They go up to San Frantic, got wax, I got. 951 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 10: Whacked, and then I'll say this to Philly was it 952 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 10: was okay, but you know against. 953 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 2: They lost by five on the road to Philly twenty eight, 954 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 2: twenty three earlier in the season, got him down in Dallas, 955 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 2: it was a different story. 956 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder if I'm my buddy doing Michael Hoyt. 957 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: Is he week week week. 958 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make it this. 959 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna make it this Taylor Rap. 960 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, so, because he obviously went against that offense when 961 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 9: they were in Greenbach. 962 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 1: So right, but Taylor Rap knows them too, Yeah, so 963 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: so Yeah, Dallas has struggled a little bit on the 964 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: road now. Certainly opening day they beat the Giants forty 965 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: to nothing on the road, but then they lost on 966 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 1: the road to Arizona Cardinals. They lost to San Francisco 967 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: big time. They lost to Philly big time. They beat 968 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 1: the Chargers three by three, and that was the shootout 969 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: game they beat They beat Carolina, you know, and now 970 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, so they have you know, they've been at 971 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 1: home for three straight. They've won them all for their 972 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: last five. They've been home. Yeah, it's gonna be it's 973 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: gonna slap them. 974 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy said, this is this is gonna them. Mike 975 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 2: McCarthy said yesterday. This will be a good test for 976 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 2: us because it'll prepare us for the playoffs playing a 977 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:44,720 Speaker 2: team of this caliber. 978 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 3: So there's respect there. 979 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 2: Speaking of respect them, your good friend Rob Ray is 980 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 2: recovering after he took a puck to the to the noggins. Well, 981 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,040 Speaker 2: he was in the uh the red line box for 982 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 2: yesterday's Sabers game, guys, trying to do his homework, consult 983 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 2: his notes, and a puck gets flipped up, knocks. 984 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 3: Him right between the eyes. 985 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 1: Right between the eyes, I mean dead center. 986 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 4: Is the okay? 987 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, like he was shaving his eyebrows. 988 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,880 Speaker 2: He got a piece of toilet paper there, you know, 989 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 2: cut himself with the raising. 990 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: Granada was asked about it this today and uh, Donny 991 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: Granado said, Rob Ray will be making the road trip 992 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: and he is day to day with an upper body injury, 993 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: so I think. 994 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 3: He needs to send him a Bandit is out of play. 995 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 4: To the right of Fame. 996 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: And Rob and Rob gets two minutes for instigating. Yeah, 997 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 1: that's right, forgetting in the way. Yeah, what do we 998 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: that's the interference we get, call him for interference. Uh them, 999 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for the time, as always, enjoy the game on Sunday. 1000 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 3: We'll catch up with the next week. 1001 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 2: And good luck with the event, the holiday's event that 1002 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 2: you got with your Family Foundation on Friday at the 1003 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 2: Barrel Factory. And like we said, we will post on 1004 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 2: One Bills Live where you can get your tickets for 1005 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 2: that holiday event. 1006 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 3: Break time for us when we come back. 1007 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 2: It's ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky joining us next, fresh 1008 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 2: off of that Miami collapse that he broadcasts from Miami. 1009 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 2: He's a world traveler. We'll catch up with him next 1010 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 2: year on One Bill's Live. 1011 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. 1012 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 2: All Right, our number two here on a Tuesday, and 1013 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,160 Speaker 2: it begins as it has for the previous thirteen weeks 1014 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 2: with ESPN analyst former NFL quarterback Dan Orlowski, whose segment 1015 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 2: is brought to you by Elicatet Hotels. Fans round up 1016 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 2: your family, friends or co workers for a fantastic game 1017 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 2: day experience at five hundred Pearl Reserve your packbook your 1018 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 2: group event today at five hundred Pearl Buffalo dot Com. 1019 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,879 Speaker 2: Dan is fresh off the Monday Night collapse, a titanic 1020 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 2: collapse by the Miami Dolphins, much to the delight of 1021 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 2: every Bills fan in the eight counties of Western New 1022 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,799 Speaker 2: York who, if they didn't stick with the Titans, woke 1023 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,719 Speaker 2: up much to their delight, happier than ever on a 1024 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 2: Tuesday morning, as there is now just two games in 1025 00:49:55,520 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 2: the win column separating the Dolphins from the Bills. And well, 1026 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 2: let's talk about that game first and then we'll get 1027 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 2: to the bills upcoming matchup with the Cowboys. Here, Dan, 1028 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 2: I know you were impressed based on your commentary with 1029 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 2: Will Levis. He looks like the real deal for that 1030 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 2: Titans club going forward. They have their new franchise quarterback. 1031 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 2: In my estimation, I think you feel similarly in your opinion. 1032 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 2: Do you think based on the way you saw the 1033 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 2: Dolphins play that last four minutes that they thought the 1034 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 2: game was won after that turnover on the pitch play. 1035 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think in the context of the game, they 1036 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,879 Speaker 7: thought that, hey, as long as we don't make any mistakes, 1037 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,680 Speaker 7: that they're not good enough to go score twice on us. 1038 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 7: I really believe that that's how they viewed it. And 1039 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,919 Speaker 7: you know, like if you go back first of all, Chris, 1040 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 7: it sounds like you were the leading charge for the 1041 00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,720 Speaker 7: joyous I was at the front. 1042 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,439 Speaker 3: I was the drum major man. 1043 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you know, it was really interesting. I talked 1044 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 7: about it during the game. Is you know, they go 1045 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 7: up by the two scorers and then Will methodically leads 1046 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 7: them down the field, and you know, his patience showed off, 1047 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 7: and you know, then Miami got the ball, and my 1048 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 7: like surprise, it wasn't that they went run run, It 1049 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 7: was that they went run run without Tyreek on the field. 1050 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 5: You know. 1051 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 7: It was if you're gonna go run, run, put Tyreek 1052 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 7: on the field. Sent him in motion. He's gonna pull. 1053 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 7: He was pulling guys all night towards him. The gravity 1054 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 7: that he had, So I think that was my surprise. 1055 00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 7: And then the way that you know they essentially just 1056 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 7: let them march right down the field again and never 1057 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,440 Speaker 7: really challenge them. So I think if you're Miami, it's 1058 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 7: it is a rough day to day to know that 1059 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,720 Speaker 7: you in many ways let one slip away or gave 1060 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 7: one away. And I know that they were dealing with injuries, 1061 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 7: and that's a very fair kind of point when it 1062 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 7: comes to what they were dealing with. But that's a 1063 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 7: that's a loss, that's that that's not gonna sit well. 1064 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 7: And no matter how I listen, I'm a fan of 1065 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 7: the Dolphins. 1066 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 4: I am. 1067 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 7: I liked their coach, I like their players. This happened 1068 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,080 Speaker 7: last year. Is this the repeat of it? And you 1069 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 7: could say what you want next week will not be 1070 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 7: a cakewalker versus the Jets. I just don't believe it's 1071 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 7: going to be the repeat of Black Friday. And then 1072 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 7: they got that final three game stretch, which is brutal. 1073 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot in this Tennessee Miami game because there's 1074 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: a couple of things. First, Wow, Miami looks really different 1075 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: when Tyreek is not on the field when he went out. 1076 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:35,680 Speaker 1: I mean they look pedestrian offensively. And two, you know 1077 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: Tyreek was on the field some off the field. Some 1078 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,760 Speaker 1: this happened, the injury happened early, no question. But two 1079 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 1: this game was thirteen thirteen, and you said that Miami 1080 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: kind of feel like they gave one away. Tennessee tried 1081 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,960 Speaker 1: to give it to him twice, and Miami wasn't good 1082 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,560 Speaker 1: enough to make it happen. I mean, Tennessee was toe 1083 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: to toe with the Dolphins throughout three and a half quarters, 1084 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 1: three and three quarter quarters. So there's a lot in 1085 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: this about how good Miami is, how good they're gonna be, 1086 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: and certainly the collapse. But Tennessee gave them all they 1087 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: wanted even before the two turnovers. 1088 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 7: Absolutely, and we kind of felt that way, you know, 1089 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,240 Speaker 7: Lewis and I certainly like because we've been around veryble 1090 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 7: long enough. He just makes everything ugly and muddy and 1091 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,879 Speaker 7: if you catch that one break, you know, to of fumbles. 1092 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 7: It was interesting, Steve, because you kind of saw if 1093 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 7: anybody's a basketball fan, it was like watching the Lakers 1094 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 7: without Lebron. You know, Tyreek controls the game in many ways, 1095 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 7: free and post snapped. I mean, when you when I 1096 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 7: have you know, I'm sitting in the press box and 1097 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 7: you're watching Tyreek on the field and he starts from 1098 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,320 Speaker 7: one place and goes to the other and the ball's 1099 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 7: not snapped. That you the control that he has over 1100 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 7: the defense is shocking. Everybody moves and then when the 1101 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 7: ball gets snapped, everyone's paying attention to him. And so 1102 00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,799 Speaker 7: you know, when when he's out of the game, and 1103 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 7: it's tough, I'm sure because they run their offense through them, 1104 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 7: you could see that they were searching for answers. Okay, well, 1105 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 7: if you'd think of their their playbook goes from like 1106 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 7: the cheesecake factory to five guys, you know, just it's endless, 1107 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 7: to like, hey, we got like three options now, you know. 1108 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 7: And I think that's kind of what happened if I 1109 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,760 Speaker 7: was Miami today. I think the thing that I'm most 1110 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,799 Speaker 7: disappointed about that is not that is an offensive line 1111 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 7: that I struggled mightily in Tennessee. They got a rookie 1112 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,240 Speaker 7: left tackle and a rookie left guard. Their their edges 1113 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:36,080 Speaker 7: got tore up. Last week versus Indianapolis, our edges could 1114 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 7: not get home. Like if I'm if I'm Miami, we 1115 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,280 Speaker 7: couldn't get after their offensive line at all to pressure 1116 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,719 Speaker 7: Will Levis, especially late. 1117 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 5: And so. 1118 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 7: It's one game. It's not the end of the world 1119 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 7: for them, But you also have to like treat it 1120 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:54,239 Speaker 7: with reality of going, hey, maybe we aren't as pre 1121 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,800 Speaker 7: mirror as we thought we were. 1122 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 2: All right, so let's move on to Buffalo. You know, 1123 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 2: big road win at Kansas City certainly wasn't perfect. Even 1124 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 2: Josh said, we got a lot of stuff we got 1125 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 2: to clean up, and he's right. But the way the 1126 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 2: defense is able to close out that game, granted they 1127 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 2: get him in long down and distance after the penalty, 1128 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 2: but it's Von Miller, ed Oliver Leonard Floyd on those 1129 00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 2: last three plays to kind of close it out and 1130 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 2: let the offense kneel it out. 1131 00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 3: Ed's always been. 1132 00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 2: Ed has been at the center of this for most 1133 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 2: of the season, and he has been playing premier football. 1134 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 3: What kind of impact. 1135 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 2: Would you say he has had pretty much all season 1136 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,799 Speaker 2: long for this group up front. 1137 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 7: He's been the best player in the defense in a 1138 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,680 Speaker 7: not only like in a way that he's always been 1139 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 7: in many parts, like in a needed way because of 1140 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 7: the injuries. You know, I thought Epanessa played really good 1141 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,240 Speaker 7: as well. Obviously the interception in his field, he probably 1142 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 7: has a Tael pre snap of you know, if a 1143 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 7: guy sets I thought them. One of the more impressive 1144 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 7: things for the defense for me was how they got 1145 00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 7: some of those guys on the tackle matchup that they wanted. 1146 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 7: You know, they got Vaughn one time, but that's where 1147 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 7: he always is. They had actually ed outside one time 1148 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:16,520 Speaker 7: on one of the tackles in a one on one 1149 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 7: pass rush opportunity. And then Williams the backer, they got 1150 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 7: him in a pass rush situation in a one on 1151 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 7: one opportunity as well. So I thought it was really 1152 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 7: smart and really tactical of Hey, we know that Kansas 1153 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 7: City's offensive tackles are the issue with their football team, 1154 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 7: and they wanted to attack that. And so Ed was awesome. 1155 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,560 Speaker 7: Ed's been fantastic all year. If he could get a 1156 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 7: couple of those other guys to come along with them, 1157 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 7: that's that's a big deal. 1158 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:46,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1159 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,320 Speaker 2: And just to dovetail off what you mentioned about Dorian Williams, 1160 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,880 Speaker 2: and because I know you watch film and you're probably 1161 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 2: aware of this anyway, but for our fans, that was 1162 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 2: something that they had previously done against the Chiefs in 1163 00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 2: years past, using Milano as the ruck. Sure was interesting 1164 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 2: to see them use Dorian Williams in that same way 1165 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 2: on Sunday. 1166 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, what do you Yeah, it was smart. Yeah, it 1167 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 7: was smart to see that that they that they go 1168 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,799 Speaker 7: that got they got those matchups in their favor. 1169 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: And obviously this game ends. And there's the huge play 1170 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 1: with that the it's brilliant play that Kelsey makes and 1171 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 1: laddering that to Tony for the touchdown that he does 1172 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: it in practice, I and I've told other people when 1173 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,360 Speaker 1: you do stuff like that in practice, it raises the 1174 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: antenna your teammates and that like, I don't think that 1175 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: caught Tony completely off guard. And of course the play 1176 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,919 Speaker 1: didn't count because of the now infamous off sides call. 1177 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: And you know, we can talk a lot about you 1178 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,840 Speaker 1: know that. I want to forget about that one call 1179 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: for a minute, though, Dan, I want to talk to 1180 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: you about officiating in general. I've been spouting this theory 1181 00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks now. We've seen so much 1182 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 1: official so many officials calls get thrown into the middle 1183 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 1: of these one loss wins and losses, the close games. Sure, 1184 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: it's my theory and my belief that the league is 1185 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,640 Speaker 1: all about parody. You got a team, you got teams 1186 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 1: like the Houston Texans that are beat you know, you 1187 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: got small teams beating big market teams. You got all 1188 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: these teams the league, and especially in the AFC, you 1189 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: got six teams with the exact same record. The league 1190 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 1: is really evened out. You've got a huge percentage of 1191 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: the games that are coming down to one score games. 1192 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: I have thought that, hey, when you get into games 1193 00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 1: like that, both when I played and when you played, 1194 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,080 Speaker 1: when these games that we've watched as broadcasters and media people, 1195 00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: that's what happens in close games. It comes down to 1196 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: a no call or a ticki tac call, or a 1197 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: call that you should have made or that I should 1198 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 1: have made, that nobody made a missed call, or a 1199 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: non call, or a call that they're all magnified because 1200 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 1: of the magnitude of the moment in the game, because 1201 00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,320 Speaker 1: there are so many more moments like that. Now you 1202 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: have to notice them. And now we're condemning all the officials. 1203 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: And my take is, listen, this is the way it's 1204 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:10,440 Speaker 1: always been. But because the league is from top to 1205 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 1: bottom is so tight, it's all magnified. Even though it's 1206 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 1: the same calls we've been getting for decades. Now you 1207 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: got replay, you can look at them again. We can 1208 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: make a big deal, you can reverse some of them 1209 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 1: that are wrong. So in in my estimation, the league's 1210 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 1: kind of it's a symptom of a league that is 1211 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 1: hyper competitive right now. 1212 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's a good thought, Steve. I've never 1213 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 7: really heard anybody kind of explain it that way. I 1214 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 7: have kind of probably shared the same feeling as you. 1215 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 7: I've never thought officiating was good. I've never thought officiating 1216 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 7: was bad. I've always just thought officiating is what it is. 1217 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 7: Sometimes to your point, the call goes your way. I 1218 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 7: was on a team that we played in Dallas in 1219 00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 7: the playoffs. Late in the game, they threw a pass 1220 00:59:55,480 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 7: interference flag. They reset the down for an automatic first down, 1221 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 7: they moved the change, they wound the clock, we were 1222 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 7: in the huddle, play stopped, and they waved the flag 1223 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 7: off and we had to replay fourth down or go 1224 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 7: to fourth down. So you've always been a part of that. 1225 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 7: I do think social media, you know, has certainly heightened 1226 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 7: it and the awareness of it. To your point, like 1227 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 7: I did a massive tape on NFL Live yesterday about 1228 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 7: the Canarius Tony off side stuff. Ten years ago, Steve, 1229 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 7: I would have never been able to do that because 1230 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 7: I would have never had access to all twenty two 1231 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 7: within twenty four hours the game getting played, and I 1232 01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 7: certainly wouldn't have had the technology to kind of do 1233 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,640 Speaker 7: something like that. So, yeah, there's just so much more access. 1234 01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 7: I don't think you're all that wrong saying it's always 1235 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 7: been this poor and it'll always be a massive conversation 1236 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,960 Speaker 7: because in the call, someone has to go and get 1237 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 7: their advantag get it to go their way, and someone doesn't. 1238 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 7: The Super Bowl last year went the Chiefs way, and 1239 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 7: the other night it didn't. I get their side. I 1240 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,840 Speaker 7: do I get Philadelphia side in the Super Bowl last year. 1241 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, last one I've got for you, Dan concerns Bill's Cowboys. 1242 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 2: This seems like it's very much going to be a 1243 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,080 Speaker 2: game determined in the trenches for the teams on both 1244 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 2: sides of the ball. What if anything has worked with 1245 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 2: some measure of success in slowing down that Dallas pass 1246 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 2: rush by other teams this year? 1247 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, so the Dallas pass rush, I could you know, 1248 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 7: obviously I know both of these teams relatively well right now. 1249 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 7: To slow down the Dallas pass rush, First of all, 1250 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 7: you have to be fantastic on first down. You can't 1251 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 7: this isn't tay. Let's get into third and three game this. 1252 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 7: You know you saw it a little bit last week, 1253 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 7: even more so early runs with Josh's legs just to 1254 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,120 Speaker 7: get them to think. I do think again, this is 1255 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 7: a game where you got to put Micah Parsons in 1256 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 7: conflict in many situations. He's the driving force of it. 1257 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 7: This defensive line wants to create chaos. That's all they want. 1258 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 7: They just want chaos. If you think of the offensive 1259 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 7: line as basically like five that are connected as one, 1260 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 7: I don't care. They have to stay on the same 1261 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 7: levels with each other and as connected as possible. Dallas 1262 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 7: wants them all to be dispersed. That's all they want. 1263 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,040 Speaker 7: It's just chaos. They don't care if it's a disaster. 1264 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 7: But if it's chaos, they think one of their guys 1265 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 7: can get home. And they do a great job of 1266 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 7: picks and stunts and running into people and so you're 1267 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,520 Speaker 7: not gonna live on third down. Now, Josh's legs on 1268 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 7: third down could be a huge part. They are every week, 1269 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,479 Speaker 7: but even more so because you know, once they get 1270 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 7: all moving around and whatnot, they create some seams. I 1271 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 7: don't know if this defense is I think this defense 1272 01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 7: is a good unit. I don't think this defense, as 1273 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 7: long as you don't play let it play to its strengths, 1274 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 7: is a dominant defense. They're gonna give you underneath completions. 1275 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 7: They don't think that you are gonna be and it's 1276 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,960 Speaker 7: not an easy completion like a zone completion. You're just 1277 01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 7: gonna have the chance to throw short routes right now 1278 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 7: and let your guy catch and run with it. And 1279 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 7: then on the flip side. I think this is a 1280 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 7: Tarren Johnson game if he plays his best game of 1281 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 7: the year. I'm telling you, Dallas, you gotta do two 1282 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 7: things against this offense right now. You gotta cover eighty eight. 1283 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 7: If you can't cover eighty eight, I don't care who 1284 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,920 Speaker 7: you are. And now I think a lot of teams 1285 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 7: do it stupidly, like Philadelphia last week was playing man coverage. 1286 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 7: They had Darius Slay covering Michael Gallup and Roby covering 1287 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 7: Ceedee Lamb. I I it makes no sense to me, 1288 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,760 Speaker 7: and you got it. You gotta change coverage out to 1289 01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 7: snap exotically. You can't just go from cover two to 1290 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 7: cover three. It's gotta be you gotta get that confused, 1291 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 7: because right now he is firing on all cylinders. 1292 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,560 Speaker 2: Dan, thanks very much, appreciate the time. As always, we 1293 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:55,640 Speaker 2: catch up with you next week. 1294 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 7: I have a great week, guys. 1295 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 2: All right here, that's Dan Orlowski, NFL analyst for ESPN. 1296 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,200 Speaker 2: Did the Monday night game last night? Always good to 1297 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 2: catch up with him. And speaking of Monday Night's game, 1298 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 2: that is our topic of conversation for you at eight 1299 01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,680 Speaker 2: oh three five point fifty one eight eight eight five 1300 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty What did the Dolphins collapse to 1301 01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 2: the Titans on Monday Night football mean to you when 1302 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 2: you woke up this morning. And we'll go right back 1303 01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 2: to the phones, and for a man who's been waiting patiently, 1304 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 2: we go to Brad in Orchard Park. 1305 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:27,120 Speaker 3: What do you got for us? 1306 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:31,280 Speaker 5: Brad, Hi, Steve and Chris. How do you guys doing today? 1307 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 3: Doing well? 1308 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 5: Great first time caller. I want to wish you guys 1309 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 5: on Merrick Christmas and a happy New Year. 1310 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 3: You as well. 1311 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:39,040 Speaker 4: Thanks. 1312 01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 5: So when I woke up this morning, I went to 1313 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 5: bed and I thought Miami is going to win. And 1314 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 5: when I went to bed, I woke up, I saw 1315 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 5: Tennessee had won. And the first thing that popped in 1316 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,720 Speaker 5: my head was that they have just made it where 1317 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 5: the Bills playing in Miami in Miami is most likely 1318 01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 5: now going to be for the Division East championship. Because 1319 01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 5: I always had it where Miami was never going to 1320 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 5: be able to beat Dallas or Baltimore. But now with 1321 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,840 Speaker 5: that loss, what it means is that if they do 1322 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 5: lose to Dallas in Baltimore, which they should, it means 1323 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 5: Bills don't have to run the table, and if Bills, 1324 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:17,880 Speaker 5: and it also means that Miami can now win one 1325 01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 5: of those games in an upset and the Bills it 1326 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 5: sought to run the table, but it just opens up 1327 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 5: the door to that big game in Miami being for 1328 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,760 Speaker 5: the Division championship. Any rays, I'll let you guys comment 1329 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 5: on that. 1330 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure thing, Brett. 1331 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,680 Speaker 2: I mean we're not quite there yet, but the door 1332 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 2: has now been cracked open. I mean it's still a 1333 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 2: two game gap with four games to play. You're right, 1334 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 2: they have a bear of a schedule here down the stretch. 1335 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 2: I don't think the Jets games are gimme for them either. 1336 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 2: I mean, we just heard Dan talk about it, Steve, 1337 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,600 Speaker 2: but we were running it down in the segment before 1338 01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 2: he even came on, right, you know, the Jets are 1339 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 2: a top five defense, and yeah, it went bad in 1340 01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 2: the Black Friday game a couple of weeks ago. You know, 1341 01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 2: they're throwing a hail Mary to the end zone at 1342 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:02,560 Speaker 2: the end of the first half. Miami intercepts it and 1343 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,440 Speaker 2: takes it back ninety nine yards for a touchdown. That 1344 01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,000 Speaker 2: was like a fourteen point swing right there at the 1345 01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,600 Speaker 2: end of the half, and the Jets offense at that 1346 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,960 Speaker 2: time just wasn't in a position to come back. And 1347 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,919 Speaker 2: I think Tim Boyle started that game. He's not even 1348 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 2: on the team anymore. Right Meanwhile, Zach Wilson's coming off 1349 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 2: a three hundred yard passing performance in a convincing win 1350 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 2: over the Houston Texans, who granted lost C. J. 1351 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,280 Speaker 3: Stroud during the game. But that Jets team's. 1352 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,480 Speaker 2: Flying pretty high right now. And they can play defense. 1353 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the number two pass defense in football. 1354 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,560 Speaker 2: They're not gonna make it easy on them. They make 1355 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 2: nothing easy on anybody defensively. 1356 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna have They're gonna have their work cutout 1357 01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 1: for him in Miami to do it. And it's well 1358 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:40,160 Speaker 1: wait and. 1359 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 3: See, but yeah, and then it's Dallas Baltimore. 1360 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:47,520 Speaker 1: It's a different landscape. No question. They've got the Jets 1361 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:52,680 Speaker 1: in Miami, then they've got Dallas in Miami, then they 1362 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 1: go to Baltimore, and then they've got the Bills in Miami. 1363 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 1: So three of their last four are at home for Miami, 1364 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,040 Speaker 1: but they owe to Baltimore. Who were You know, nobody's 1365 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:08,200 Speaker 1: playing any better football in the league than Baltimore. So yeah, 1366 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 1: for us here in Western New York, Bill's got to 1367 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 1: mind their own business and win games. If they do that, 1368 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,000 Speaker 1: everything's in front of them and it won't matter what 1369 01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 1: Miami does. 1370 01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,800 Speaker 2: The last thing you want to do is one coach 1371 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 2: I had a long time ago. He called it paper shooting. 1372 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 2: Don't read the paper. Yeah, don't paper shoot, which was 1373 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,040 Speaker 2: which was kind of a twofold thing. It was one 1374 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 2: just because you beat a team that the team you're 1375 01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,600 Speaker 2: playing next didn't beat, doesn't mean you're going to beat 1376 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,960 Speaker 2: that team. It's like a A plus B does not 1377 01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 2: always equal C. 1378 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 1: That is right. If A equals C and B equal C, 1379 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,600 Speaker 1: A does not always equal by. 1380 01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,280 Speaker 3: So that yeah, is that the transitive property? 1381 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:50,080 Speaker 4: I have no idea. 1382 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 1: I made it up as I went along. 1383 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 2: Anyway, The point here is, yes, there is a greater 1384 01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 2: chance now that the week eighteen game bill that Miami 1385 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,480 Speaker 2: could mean something, maybe even the division title, but we're 1386 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 2: still a ways away from that. Buffalo still has a 1387 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 2: lot of their own work to do, starting with a 1388 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,440 Speaker 2: pretty tough game this week against Dallas. Fortunately that is 1389 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 2: here at high Mark Stadium, so there is work to 1390 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 2: be done on the Bills side of the ledger. But yes, 1391 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,759 Speaker 2: the lost last night, at least in my estimation, opened 1392 01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:22,559 Speaker 2: that door a crack. 1393 01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 3: Now because they win last. 1394 01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 2: Night up three games with four to play, yeah, that's tough. 1395 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 2: They would really have to screw that up royally to 1396 01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 2: let the Bills back into the equation. 1397 01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 1: The difference between last night just being a tough loss 1398 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,759 Speaker 1: and what we saw last night was this, If anything 1399 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 1: happens to Tyreek, they're done. They're dead in the water. 1400 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:48,599 Speaker 1: In my opinion, they forget it. They got a tough 1401 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 1: schedule and without Tyreek they're dead. They can't score enough. 1402 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 1: But even with Tyreek, they got some problems. Their offensive 1403 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 1: line is not good, their defense is gettable, particularly when 1404 01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 1: they lost Jalen Phillips. They got their pass rush evaporated. 1405 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,599 Speaker 3: He's their best pass rush. And still have Bradley Chubb. 1406 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,600 Speaker 2: But that guy comes and goes, yes, he's good for 1407 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,599 Speaker 2: a series, and it disappears for two quarters. 1408 01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,080 Speaker 1: So what last night did was not only handed the 1409 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,720 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins a loss, but it also gave us, but 1410 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,639 Speaker 1: me and you particular, because we don't watch those guys. 1411 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,280 Speaker 1: We gave us a chance to get to know who 1412 01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: they are. And I don't know if they're going to 1413 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,439 Speaker 1: measure up in the long over the long haul here 1414 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,559 Speaker 1: at the end of this season. It gave me some 1415 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 1: hope that they are gettable, not just by your team, 1416 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,519 Speaker 1: but by a couple of other teams they've got on 1417 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 1: their schedule. That's I think what people are trying to 1418 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 1: take away from maybe a little prematurely maybe, but you know, 1419 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,560 Speaker 1: that's the kind of what we're we're transposing onto the 1420 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,640 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins from here in Western New York. Oh, that 1421 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,200 Speaker 1: got beat by a four win, four and eight. Tennessee 1422 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,040 Speaker 1: hadn't won on the road yet. Then that was their 1423 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,680 Speaker 1: first road game, and and Tennessee did everything they could 1424 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,600 Speaker 1: possibly do to hand it to him late with a 1425 01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 1: two touchdown lead. That's a problem. So that makes Miami 1426 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 1: seem ultra vulnerable. Yeah, so that may be a little 1427 01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 1: bit of an overstatement from where we're sitting. Nevertheless, I 1428 01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 1: think that's where we're at. 1429 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,840 Speaker 2: One more thing about that Week seventeen game at Baltimore. 1430 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,639 Speaker 2: Don't think the Ravens have forgotten about the colossal comeback 1431 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,719 Speaker 2: that the Dolphins staged on them in Week two last 1432 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 2: year in that building. 1433 01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,000 Speaker 3: They're going to remember that. 1434 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:25,200 Speaker 1: Well, that was in Miami. 1435 01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 3: No, it was in Baltimore, was it? 1436 01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 1: Yes? Week two? 1437 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go. Let's go to Kevin in Williamsville next. 1438 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 3: What's up Kevin? 1439 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,280 Speaker 11: This may be an old subject that we've all been 1440 01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 11: talking about, but it has to do with kickoffs and 1441 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 11: how many times are we watching games through the weekend 1442 01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 11: and through the week where we see kickers kicking out 1443 01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 11: of the end zone as sophisticated as the NFL is. 1444 01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,680 Speaker 11: I'm really surprised that here we are, not going on 1445 01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 11: twenty twenty four and we still have this kick off 1446 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,880 Speaker 11: that goes out of the end zone ball in the 1447 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 11: twenty Why don't we If I could use a golf analogy, 1448 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,559 Speaker 11: if a golfer is one hundred yards out from the 1449 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,640 Speaker 11: pin and he uses the pitching wedge to place it 1450 01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,640 Speaker 11: as close to the pin, why don't we have kickers 1451 01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:18,240 Speaker 11: who are professional athletes and paid millions of dollars have 1452 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 11: and have the wherewithal to keep the ball in play 1453 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,640 Speaker 11: and penalize those teams that kick it out of the 1454 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,559 Speaker 11: end zone, or reward the team that kicks it through 1455 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 11: the upright, or we kick it off at the five, 1456 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,440 Speaker 11: or just give them all the ball in the twenty. 1457 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 11: I just think that that play, which was stereotype as 1458 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:41,080 Speaker 11: being the most exciting play in football, a kickoff, is 1459 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,479 Speaker 11: just becoming a wasteless time and I'd love to see 1460 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 11: more creativity of the NFL of taking kickoffs and be 1461 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,280 Speaker 11: more creative to keep the ball in play, or to 1462 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 11: reward the team that kicks it through the upright, or 1463 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 11: just mix it up from what it is just to. 1464 01:11:58,800 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 5: Mete you want. 1465 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,320 Speaker 1: There's a lot in your question, Kevin, and it's a 1466 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:08,280 Speaker 1: good question, and you're right. The problem is this with 1467 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:13,479 Speaker 1: that with your assertion, it's what they what they'll tell 1468 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,800 Speaker 1: you is it's the most dangerous playfoot You're right, it's 1469 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,719 Speaker 1: the most exciting playing football. It's the most dangerous playing football. 1470 01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,679 Speaker 1: That's why they've begun to tinker with it. And kicking 1471 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 1: the ball out of the end zone means one thing 1472 01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,200 Speaker 1: for the team that kicks it. You're not giving up 1473 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 1: a touchdown on a kickoff return. Conversely, it used to 1474 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 1: be in recent past, since they changed those rules and 1475 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,640 Speaker 1: made it a standing start. You remember it used to be, 1476 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 1: and some kids maybe not remember this already, but you'd 1477 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,800 Speaker 1: get a running start to kick the ball off like 1478 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,800 Speaker 1: they still do in kind of cover guys. Yeah, the 1479 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,479 Speaker 1: cover guys. Well, when they change that, it was for 1480 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,799 Speaker 1: safety reasons. Now all most of eight of the eleven 1481 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,000 Speaker 1: guys on the return team have to be within ten 1482 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 1: yards of the restraining line of the where the balls kicked, 1483 01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,320 Speaker 1: and the kicking team conversely has to be right on 1484 01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 1: the line walls as well with ten guys, So they've 1485 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,960 Speaker 1: changed it that way. So what teams did is exactly 1486 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:14,439 Speaker 1: what you propose in your question. They had kickers kick 1487 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,599 Speaker 1: the ball as high as they possibly could and landed 1488 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:19,800 Speaker 1: just short of the end zone so that they had 1489 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 1: to make a decision they had to catch it and 1490 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:24,640 Speaker 1: return it. Well, what happened was teams were covering it 1491 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: so well they were never getting to the twenty. It 1492 01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,640 Speaker 1: was worse than it was field position wise before they 1493 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:36,719 Speaker 1: made the changes, and it's still the most dangerous playing 1494 01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,240 Speaker 1: football because there's more concussions per play on kickoffs and 1495 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: kickoff returns than in any of the playing football. So 1496 01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,920 Speaker 1: they changed it again. Now they give teams the idea 1497 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,160 Speaker 1: the freedom to fair catch it when it's in the 1498 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,400 Speaker 1: field of play and still get it at the twenty five. 1499 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,200 Speaker 2: Why because they want to reduce concussions. They're trying to 1500 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,680 Speaker 2: do happening despite some of the initials. 1501 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 1: They're trying to make it safer. So you're right, there 1502 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,920 Speaker 1: is And when I sat in on the kickoff summit, 1503 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 1: a meeting in which I talked entirely too much, I'll 1504 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 1: probably never be invited back. The thought from the league was, 1505 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 1: and all the experts, the guys who are really smart, 1506 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,880 Speaker 1: they want to keep the kickoff in the They want 1507 01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,559 Speaker 1: to keep the finger quotes foot in the game. They 1508 01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 1: don't want to take punting out. They don't want to 1509 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 1: take kickoffs out. They don't want to take field goals 1510 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 1: and field goals out. They don't want to take any 1511 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,599 Speaker 1: of that out. But they're going to try and tinker 1512 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:36,200 Speaker 1: with it to make it acceptable statistically at least injury wise. 1513 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,400 Speaker 1: And you're right, there's great creativity available to the kickoff 1514 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 1: because there's no rule. They can make the rules whatever 1515 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 1: they want. They can say the kickoff team starts at 1516 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,479 Speaker 1: the goal line and then you kick it. You know, 1517 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 1: they could really open it up. All of that stuff 1518 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:56,559 Speaker 1: is on the table, but they're still searching for a 1519 01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 1: solution that will let teams kick it off in a 1520 01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:06,280 Speaker 1: traditional fashion and put the ball in play where guys 1521 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: don't get a concussion every other time you kick it off. 1522 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:11,439 Speaker 1: That's kind of where you're at. 1523 01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 2: Bottom line is the league sacrifice creativity in the name 1524 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 2: of safety, and that's essentially what has happened. 1525 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,679 Speaker 1: But they're also open to stuff like you're talking about, 1526 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 1: like reward them with a point if they can kick 1527 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,639 Speaker 1: it through the few the uprights or move the kickoff 1528 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 1: way back so it becomes more questionable if you kick it. 1529 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,720 Speaker 1: If you kick it out of the end zone, that's 1530 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 1: one thing. But if you can feel it and bring 1531 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:40,160 Speaker 1: it out, you're usually gonna bring it out past the 1532 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:45,759 Speaker 1: twenty five, and then you're gonna have exponentially more kickoff 1533 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 1: returns for touchdowns, and it's gonna put more emphasis on 1534 01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 1: that game. If you kick it off from your own 1535 01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,000 Speaker 1: twenty instead of your own thirty five, it's gonna be 1536 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,519 Speaker 1: hard to kick it through the end zone and how 1537 01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,320 Speaker 1: many fair catches will you see? Then? But the more 1538 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,799 Speaker 1: returns you see on a kickoff, the more kickoff returns 1539 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:05,920 Speaker 1: you see. Conversely, the more concussions you're gonna suffer, because guys, 1540 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 1: it's the one play in football whereas guys are running 1541 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:10,920 Speaker 1: at each other and nobody trying to get out of 1542 01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,200 Speaker 1: the way, they're banging into each other and say let's go, 1543 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,040 Speaker 1: and it's concussion city. So they got to figure out 1544 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:17,840 Speaker 1: a way around all that. 1545 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:21,160 Speaker 3: And that and maybe some of your ideas, maybe, yes. 1546 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:26,320 Speaker 1: Some of your ideas were unquestionably entertained already. As much 1547 01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:32,320 Speaker 1: as you've thought about this, Kevin from Williamsville, the NFL 1548 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,200 Speaker 1: has put hours and upon hours and hours of a 1549 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 1: lot of guys who know what they're talking about, have 1550 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,120 Speaker 1: put a lot of thought into. 1551 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,320 Speaker 2: This break time for us here, but Anthony and Hamburg, 1552 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 2: Joe and Akron rich in Tanawana to stay where you are. 1553 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,160 Speaker 3: We'll get to you and your phone calls when we 1554 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 3: return here. 1555 01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,479 Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live presented by Collida Health, It's Buffalo 1556 01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 2: Bills Radio. 1557 01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:06,360 Speaker 3: He's Dad the twenty. 1558 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 2: The ten to five touchdown, snap Dragon apples this Bill season, 1559 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,680 Speaker 2: head to Wegmans and other local retailers to experience the 1560 01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:18,160 Speaker 2: epic flavor and monster crunch of snap Dragon apples, the 1561 01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,559 Speaker 2: official apples of your Buffalo. Bill's gonna get right back 1562 01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 2: to the phones here, as we've been asking you today, 1563 01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,720 Speaker 2: what did Miami's colossal collapse at the hand of the 1564 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 2: Titans on Monday night mean to you when you woke 1565 01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:32,040 Speaker 2: up this morning? 1566 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,879 Speaker 3: We go to Anthony in Hamburg. Next, what's up Anthony? 1567 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,519 Speaker 12: Hey, how's it going guys? Pretty good, Tom Bill smam, 1568 01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 12: first time caller. 1569 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,680 Speaker 4: Thanks so. 1570 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,320 Speaker 12: Actually grew up in the fore lot of areas a 1571 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:49,840 Speaker 12: Bill span. So I've been taking taking it pretty hard 1572 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:54,080 Speaker 12: my entire life. So it gotten to a point, you know, 1573 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,240 Speaker 12: watching the Bills lose to the nineties and the Super 1574 01:17:56,240 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 12: Bowls and up until now living in Buffalo. The you know, 1575 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,679 Speaker 12: if we beat the Dolphins twice in a year, that's 1576 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,400 Speaker 12: usually the best part of the best part of my season, 1577 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 12: right with the amount of smack I get to talk 1578 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 12: to my friends down South Florida and whatever else. So 1579 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,200 Speaker 12: to google that score this morning and see that they 1580 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,080 Speaker 12: lost by a point in the last three minutes of 1581 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 12: the game was the best news of my week so far. 1582 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,880 Speaker 12: But not only that, to see them lose, uh, you know, 1583 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 12: a division rival like that and you know, still breathe 1584 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:29,040 Speaker 12: some hope into the Bills uh season, which I feel 1585 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:32,679 Speaker 12: like Buffer seems to lose pretty quick. You know, only 1586 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 12: living here in the past three years. That's probably one 1587 01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:38,160 Speaker 12: of my biggest gripes about Buffalo. That's how fickled the 1588 01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:42,280 Speaker 12: media is how they support them one second, then they 1589 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 12: do bad and it's it's all doom and gloom and 1590 01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 12: there's nothing left. So you know, I hope the win 1591 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 12: or the loss rather that the Dolphins had to win 1592 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,920 Speaker 12: the Bills that really, you know, helped get some life 1593 01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,439 Speaker 12: back into to Buffalo for the team because you know, 1594 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,960 Speaker 12: I think Buffalo is a very unique stand base. And 1595 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,720 Speaker 12: you know, I graduated from or State University and it's 1596 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,599 Speaker 12: probably the only thing that reminds me her closest experience 1597 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 12: I've had to being at the college football experience, you know, 1598 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 12: on on game day, living in Buffalo with the amount 1599 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,759 Speaker 12: of support and everything the fans give. Yeah, that's awesome. 1600 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,479 Speaker 12: You know, it's nice to be among the herd. You know, 1601 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,320 Speaker 12: only have living in Buffalo for three years and I've 1602 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:23,000 Speaker 12: visited my entire life. Oh you know, it's cool to 1603 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 12: be in that kind of environment again, environment again. 1604 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:27,519 Speaker 3: All right, well, welcome to Western New York. Man. Glad 1605 01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 3: you're up here. 1606 01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: I know I got a not for nothing, Anthony. I 1607 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:33,639 Speaker 1: appreciate you. And Hammer got a call from my mom 1608 01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,959 Speaker 1: ninety three and they live in a small town in Kansas, 1609 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 1: so you can imagine they're in a retirement community wearing 1610 01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:44,320 Speaker 1: Bill's gear and everybody's wearing Pat Mahomes jerseys. And I 1611 01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 1: tell them, and I tell a lot of people this 1612 01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,080 Speaker 1: that there are Pilgrim's in an unholy land. 1613 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 3: And he lived it in South Florida. 1614 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 1: For most of you lived, Anthony, you lived it in 1615 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,800 Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale, no doubt about it. So kudos to you, 1616 01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:57,080 Speaker 1: and thanks for the call. 1617 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 3: Let's go to Joe and akronnext. What do you got Joe? 1618 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,559 Speaker 5: Hey, guys, first time you guys do a great job. 1619 01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 5: Thank you very much. 1620 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:05,080 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. 1621 01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:07,920 Speaker 5: As far as the game goes, last night I went 1622 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,920 Speaker 5: to bed when the guy fumbled a punt and I said, oh, 1623 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:14,719 Speaker 5: it's over with. I woke up and I actually started laughing, 1624 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 5: and I said, this is great. It's gonna be a 1625 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:17,519 Speaker 5: good day. 1626 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing like rolling out of bed and looking at 1627 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,879 Speaker 2: your phone and going WHOA. 1628 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:28,839 Speaker 5: Okay. So here's my question. It seems like the games 1629 01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 5: that are played in the four o'clock hour, the second 1630 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:36,479 Speaker 5: games of the day, they had more TV commercials than 1631 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,960 Speaker 5: the games do at one o'clock. And I'm thinking, what 1632 01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,840 Speaker 5: are the players doing during these during all the commercials 1633 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:47,080 Speaker 5: like this? Are they strategizing? Or can't they or what happens? 1634 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I don't think they may, but I 1635 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 1: don't think that's true. I think the league is pretty 1636 01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,320 Speaker 1: pretty serious about the number of ads that you had, 1637 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 1: and maybe there is a different protocol for the four 1638 01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 1: o'clock games. If I'd known about you, I got people 1639 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,040 Speaker 1: I can call to find that out. 1640 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 2: I can tell you one thing that did happen this 1641 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 2: week with the Bills Chiefs game, almost the whole first 1642 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:17,120 Speaker 2: quarter went by without a commercial break. The reason why 1643 01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,160 Speaker 2: was because the one o'clock games in the larger markets 1644 01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:26,880 Speaker 2: ran late and we're still going and in order for 1645 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:30,240 Speaker 2: the ads in the major four o'clock game, which was 1646 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:34,639 Speaker 2: Bill's Chiefs, to air to all those markets, they had 1647 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,680 Speaker 2: to hold those brakes. 1648 01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:37,920 Speaker 3: Until the second quarter. 1649 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,000 Speaker 2: So perhaps Joe watching the second quarter is like, we're 1650 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:41,960 Speaker 2: going to break again. 1651 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,559 Speaker 3: What is going on? Yeah, we're going to break again. 1652 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 3: Exactly right. 1653 01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,920 Speaker 2: They had to make up all those ad breaks that 1654 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:49,639 Speaker 2: they couldn't go to in the first quarter. 1655 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,080 Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened. And that's your answer right there, Joe, 1656 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:57,800 Speaker 1: that yes, they got ads a backvenue and they're backed up. 1657 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Because you're right. I was waiting for the Bills game 1658 01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,200 Speaker 1: to come on, and it took. And when I'll say this, 1659 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,640 Speaker 1: when the Bills came on, they were lined up and 1660 01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,160 Speaker 1: ready to kick it. There was no hey, how you doing. 1661 01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,920 Speaker 1: We're here from the booth. We're gonna get this can 1662 01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:13,559 Speaker 1: going now. It's like, and here's Tyler bast to kick 1663 01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,400 Speaker 1: it off. I mean that was it. Welcome to the 1664 01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:19,439 Speaker 1: game came on, so they that's right, and you'll see 1665 01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,080 Speaker 1: that once in a while when the game takes place 1666 01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:23,960 Speaker 1: like that. It used to happen to our games when 1667 01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:25,519 Speaker 1: the no huddle was going on, and they never we 1668 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,040 Speaker 1: never took a break. You know, they'd have to wait 1669 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 1: and do breaks between series and that kind of thing. 1670 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 1: So that's exactly your answer. It probably did feel like 1671 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:36,800 Speaker 1: those four o'clock game or at least the ones this 1672 01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:40,479 Speaker 1: weekend were a little bit packed because all the commercials 1673 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:43,000 Speaker 1: that would run early in that game were held until 1674 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,439 Speaker 1: later because of the late running one o'clock games. That's 1675 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 1: a good call, Brownie, You're exactly right. 1676 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:48,920 Speaker 3: Let's go to rich In Tanawanda next. 1677 01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,920 Speaker 13: What's up rich Hey, how you guys doing today? 1678 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 11: Right? 1679 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:57,120 Speaker 13: Taking my call first, I'd like to just say one 1680 01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:01,400 Speaker 13: thing to Steve. Steve, you deserve to be in the 1681 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 13: Hall of Fame. I watched you play and you were awesome. 1682 01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,360 Speaker 13: I just really enjoyed watching you play football. 1683 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Rick, thank you very much. What else 1684 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:12,360 Speaker 1: you got on your mind? 1685 01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:16,439 Speaker 13: Okay, the Dolphins, they don't mean too much to me. 1686 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,960 Speaker 13: I look at Buffalo and I say, just when your games, 1687 01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,880 Speaker 13: and don't worry about the Miami Dolphins too much. Other 1688 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,400 Speaker 13: than that, I got a real good question for Steve 1689 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,599 Speaker 13: as because you as a player. I'd like to know 1690 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:34,280 Speaker 13: why the Bills are having such a difficult time covering 1691 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:38,240 Speaker 13: this what I the little flip or swing passes to 1692 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 13: the outside. 1693 01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:45,479 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, because it because they'd rather have 1694 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks of the opponents throw the ball behind the 1695 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,679 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage than down the field. I mean, they're 1696 01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,719 Speaker 1: they're they almost turn not all the time, but maybe 1697 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,799 Speaker 1: more than you'd like. They invite that throw because they 1698 01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 1: have faith that they can make the tackle, that they'll 1699 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,559 Speaker 1: rally the football, and their secondary at the edges they 1700 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:05,080 Speaker 1: can tackle. 1701 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 4: Well. 1702 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:10,160 Speaker 1: That's probably the reason why you see it. That's why 1703 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:12,640 Speaker 1: the Bills do it against certain teams. And you know, 1704 01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,839 Speaker 1: even in this Kansasity game, two things. One the defense 1705 01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 1: has given it to him with soft coverage and two, 1706 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,559 Speaker 1: like the Bills did, they're setting up the defense to 1707 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 1: start jumping it and then getting them with a big play. 1708 01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:28,840 Speaker 1: It didn't work that way for Buffalo because Josh missed 1709 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,000 Speaker 1: Gabe Davis wide open on the check that two minutes. 1710 01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 1: It worked, but Josh didn't throw it. Gabe Davis was 1711 01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,760 Speaker 1: standing by himself on the five yard line going in 1712 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,880 Speaker 1: and Josh just missed him. He didn't even see him. 1713 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 1: Otherwise it's a touchdown for Buffalo instead of the field 1714 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:49,680 Speaker 1: goal at the end of the game. That's why I 1715 01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:55,240 Speaker 1: think Sean McDermott and before him, Leslie Frasier throw the 1716 01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,200 Speaker 1: football behind the line of scrimmage. Let's go get it 1717 01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,120 Speaker 1: to the guy quick, and we're gonna come rally and 1718 01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,120 Speaker 1: make the tackle. 1719 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,479 Speaker 2: Because you can get more people behind the ball to 1720 01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,960 Speaker 2: defend it rather than getting beat over the top where 1721 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,360 Speaker 2: you only have one guy to defend it, right, and 1722 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,400 Speaker 2: then the play's over if he beats that one guy. 1723 01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:09,920 Speaker 1: That's right. 1724 01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 2: You want to be able to attack with numbers, and 1725 01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:13,960 Speaker 2: you can do that better by inviting plays of the 1726 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. 1727 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,720 Speaker 3: Let's go to Jack in Buffalo next. What do you 1728 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:17,080 Speaker 3: got for us? 1729 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 4: Jack? 1730 01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 14: All right, guys, Yeah, I watched it last night and 1731 01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,200 Speaker 14: I really got upset with the Dolphins when the two 1732 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,960 Speaker 14: bad luck plays happened to their opponent, and the Dolphins 1733 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,600 Speaker 14: were dancing and doing their tricks, you know, and doing wheelbarrows, 1734 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,479 Speaker 14: and since they had done something they hadn't done a 1735 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,800 Speaker 14: dancing but be lucky. So I think they got what 1736 01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,639 Speaker 14: was coming to them. And I think maybe they sort 1737 01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,439 Speaker 14: of felt that because those fourteen points were handed to 1738 01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,519 Speaker 14: them on a plate. And the other thing I wanted 1739 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,240 Speaker 14: to say was this confirms my notion that you should 1740 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,040 Speaker 14: never play so oft at the end of the game. 1741 01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,519 Speaker 14: If you're on defense, you play hard, and if you 1742 01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:55,960 Speaker 14: don't stop him and they get the score, you got 1743 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,000 Speaker 14: the ball back anyway. 1744 01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll say this, and you're right, Jack. The 1745 01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:05,800 Speaker 1: Dolphins were, oh my gosh, they were over the top. 1746 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,400 Speaker 1: And their celebrations last time for those two touchwheel barrels 1747 01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:11,640 Speaker 1: had a wheelbarrow race and they had like a like 1748 01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:16,080 Speaker 1: this I don't know, strip tease kind of thing, booty 1749 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:19,160 Speaker 1: dance they did after the second one. It was they 1750 01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,080 Speaker 1: were off that they were going crazy because they were in. 1751 01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:25,400 Speaker 1: They were in. It was thirteen thirteen before they got 1752 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:28,479 Speaker 1: gifted two touchdowns, and the stress relief was obvious. Man. 1753 01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,439 Speaker 1: They were like, oh yeah, all right, they went crazy 1754 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:36,519 Speaker 1: when disc That's exactly right, man. They would they went 1755 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:41,880 Speaker 1: nuts with the TV celebrations and it just added to 1756 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:46,880 Speaker 1: the delicious flavor of that collapse, like lapping up, Oh 1757 01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,599 Speaker 1: my gosh, just rab it on my faith. 1758 01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, some more chocolate. 1759 01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:57,759 Speaker 1: Fourteen point lead in two minutes to lose, all right, yum, yum, 1760 01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:58,599 Speaker 1: gimme someth Yeah. 1761 01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,960 Speaker 2: We got to take a break here though, try to 1762 01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,720 Speaker 2: squeeze a call or two. And when we come back 1763 01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:04,439 Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live presented by to a Lot 1764 01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:18,440 Speaker 2: of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. 1765 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:25,120 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to one Bill's Live. 1766 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,840 Speaker 2: You're gonna jump right on the phones, try to get 1767 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,000 Speaker 2: to as many people as we can. 1768 01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,280 Speaker 3: And we lead off with al in Clarence, What do 1769 01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:31,800 Speaker 3: you got for us? 1770 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:31,960 Speaker 11: Al? 1771 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,120 Speaker 15: Yeah, I think the league is inviting trouble with all 1772 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:41,080 Speaker 15: these celebrations. Back in the day, they'd have Icky Woods 1773 01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:44,920 Speaker 15: go with the sidelines and do his celebrations. I think, 1774 01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,680 Speaker 15: you know, another team's gonna get really peed out and 1775 01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:49,679 Speaker 15: there's gonna be an incident. 1776 01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:55,280 Speaker 1: You know, maybe it depends you know if yeah, I 1777 01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,920 Speaker 1: mean yes, you run that risk if it becomes disrespectful 1778 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,800 Speaker 1: or anything like that. There's still even though these guys 1779 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:05,080 Speaker 1: are doing all these rules and these celebrations, there are 1780 01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,759 Speaker 1: still rules about what they can and cannot. 1781 01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:09,240 Speaker 3: Can you use the ball as a prop. 1782 01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,000 Speaker 2: You can't dunk it on the crossbar or the uprights, 1783 01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:15,439 Speaker 2: so there are still some restrictions. You can't use other 1784 01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,760 Speaker 2: props like the famous Joe Horn's cell phone under the 1785 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,360 Speaker 2: padding on the role post. 1786 01:28:19,439 --> 01:28:23,320 Speaker 1: So even though they're doing you can celebrate with your teammates, yeah, 1787 01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:30,600 Speaker 1: but you cannot reference or disrespect directly your opponent. 1788 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1789 01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 1: So there you go. 1790 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,920 Speaker 2: All right, let's squeeze one more in real quick, Dan 1791 01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,880 Speaker 2: in Rochester, Dan, what do you got? 1792 01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,880 Speaker 3: You got thirty seconds? 1793 01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:43,480 Speaker 16: Hey guys, yesterday morning, after the Bills win, I predicted 1794 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:49,120 Speaker 16: that Rabel would somehow engineer an upset and well, I said, 1795 01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 16: either to or Tyreek Hill would get injured. And we're 1796 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,200 Speaker 16: gonna go on a streak. They're gonna go on a 1797 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,240 Speaker 16: losing streak. We're gonna win the division. Tell me what 1798 01:28:57,320 --> 01:28:57,919 Speaker 16: you think. 1799 01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,360 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say. I hope you're a soothsayer's zultar somebody. 1800 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,040 Speaker 1: I hope yours right about the rest as you were 1801 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,240 Speaker 1: about the first couple of things. 1802 01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you are, tell me what I'm getting 1803 01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:09,599 Speaker 2: in my stocking for Christmas? 1804 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:10,680 Speaker 3: Get back to us. 1805 01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,240 Speaker 1: Tell me what lottery numbers to buy too. 1806 01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,440 Speaker 2: All right, good show today, Thanks for all your participation. 1807 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,080 Speaker 2: We're glad that the Monday night game had everybody smiling 1808 01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,240 Speaker 2: just as much as the Sunday game in Kansas City. 1809 01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,000 Speaker 3: Hopefully those two trends continue. 1810 01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 1: Yes, it's gonna be a fun week, big home game 1811 01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,680 Speaker 1: coming up against doubts. We're gonna be starting to talk 1812 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:34,880 Speaker 1: about that tomorrow almost exclusively. So let's go see you then. 1813 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,960 Speaker 2: It's a big and we'll turn the page and get 1814 01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:43,240 Speaker 2: to Buffalo Dallas in earnest On Wednesday. Show plenty for you, 1815 01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,719 Speaker 2: including the team back on the practice field. 1816 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,960 Speaker 1: Thank me for the Sabers win last night. I didn't go, 1817 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,080 Speaker 1: so they played their play to night. You can't go 1818 01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:50,720 Speaker 1: the next one. 1819 01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:51,920 Speaker 3: We'll see you tomorrow at what