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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, welcome back to the Almost as podcast. It

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Speaker 2: is Ashley holding it down today. So we got Heather producer.

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Speaker 2: Heather being my little sidekick. I always have fun with her.

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Speaker 2: So last week ABC gave fans a glimpse, a glimpse.

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Speaker 2: They're not necessarily confirmed suitors for Taylor Franky Paul, but

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Speaker 2: they might be in the cast, probably gonna be in

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Speaker 2: the cast. So we wanted to, you know, do a

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Speaker 2: little judgment, go through this list of guys, not like

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Speaker 2: we normally do where we're like, this is age hometown

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Speaker 2: bio judgment. No, we'll wait for the official cast list

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Speaker 2: for this. I wanted to go through a couple of

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Speaker 2: these guys because because I mean, let's see who we

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Speaker 2: think is Taylor's type, you know, like, are these guys

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Speaker 2: worthy of well?

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Speaker 3: How worthy?

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Speaker 2: You know, we don't know them, so we can't call

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Speaker 2: them worthy, thanks, know what I mean, Let's just judge

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Speaker 2: a little bit, a little lighthearted judgment in this episode.

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Speaker 3: It'll be fun. Don't take anything too close to heart.

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Speaker 4: We're literally judging a book by its cover on this.

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Speaker 3: One, exactly exactly, and the cover.

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Speaker 2: We have basically other covers, like we have chapter one

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Speaker 2: for Taylor, which is her her ex husband Tate Paul,

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Speaker 2: and then we have chapter two for her and that

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Speaker 2: is her ex boyfriend Dakota. We're going off of those

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Speaker 2: books and judging this new book the cover.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to make an analogy here.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's working, but we're basically saying

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Speaker 2: who's on the cover of Taylor's third book based on

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Speaker 2: these pictures. I will say the age range is really great.

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Speaker 2: It's refreshing. There's a lot of mid thirties. Obviously Taylor

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Speaker 2: was probably like, listen, I am not dating any one

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Speaker 2: below twenty seven. I want to say the youngest guy

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Speaker 2: on this list is about twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Majority are in their thirties.

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Speaker 2: Love that for her, But we're gonna go through and

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Speaker 2: see if my picks.

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Speaker 3: Are of age.

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Speaker 2: So the Bachelorette, the official ABC Facebook, put out some

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Speaker 2: of these pictures and they wanted to get some reaction

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Speaker 2: from the fans. And here's my reaction, here's Heather's reaction.

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Speaker 2: And Heather has some good little tidbits that I can't

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Speaker 2: wait for her to get at because she is a

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Speaker 2: she used to be in casting.

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Speaker 3: Are you still in casting?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still in casting.

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Speaker 2: So she still does casting for reality TV. So some

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Speaker 2: of these guys actually have familiar faces for her. All right,

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Speaker 2: So if I'm going just based on what Taylor's exes

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Speaker 2: look like, Dakota and Tates, I have picked five guys

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Speaker 2: in this list or her, Doug, kat Casey, Brandon, Lou

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Speaker 2: and Michael.

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Speaker 3: And now I will go through those guys.

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Speaker 2: Did you have any other people that you thought that

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Speaker 2: perhaps should she be into.

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Speaker 5: There's one that I'm rooting for, Richard. Richard from Charleston,

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Speaker 5: South Carolina. I think that that guy is super foxy

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Speaker 5: and is giving dad energy.

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Speaker 4: He's thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was going to put him on my list,

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Speaker 2: but then I was like, uh.

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Speaker 3: He may not be like hot enough, so let.

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Speaker 4: Met like the hottest in the bunch.

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Speaker 3: Wait, okay, hold on, maybe I just went by him.

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Speaker 3: Let me go to Doug first. So wait, no minute,

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Speaker 3: let me go to Brandon first. His alphabetical order.

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Speaker 2: Guys, they put him in alphabetical order so you can

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Speaker 2: be checking it out on US Weekly or on the

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Speaker 2: Bachelor at Facebook.

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Speaker 3: So Brandon is twenty eight, He's from Milwaukee. Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: I again just kind of picked him because he looks

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Speaker 2: like her type. And then Casey is cute, he's got

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Speaker 2: a good smile, he's thirty, he's from Nashville, Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: Casey is the one that fans in uh.

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Speaker 5: When the day this was announced, fans were like, oh,

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Speaker 5: Casey is a dead ringer for Dakota.

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Speaker 2: Okay, both these guys, both her exes, have light eyes.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: The fact that like Tate and Dakota both look so

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Speaker 2: freaking similar in the pictures that like we have in

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Speaker 2: front of us, it's nuts. And yes, this guy he

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Speaker 2: has a Dakota look. I think this guy's cute him Dakota.

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Speaker 5: Really, I think he's got the muscles are off display.

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Speaker 5: So my guess is probably personal trainer or something in

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Speaker 5: the fitsiness industry, because those guns.

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Speaker 2: Are, yeah, they are huge guns to be just to

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Speaker 2: like go to the gym like a couple times a week.

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Speaker 3: That's not that's not the muscles you.

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Speaker 2: Yet, alrighty, So then I was thinking Doug, Yeah, Doug, Doug.

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Speaker 2: He's twenty eight from San Diego. He's cute and again

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Speaker 2: has that look. You can definitely tell who they cast

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Speaker 2: for Taylor because like, these guys have a look. They

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Speaker 2: have get a little bit of a couple day. They

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Speaker 2: have a beard but very tamed. They have lighter eyes,

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Speaker 2: good smile, good hair.

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Speaker 4: Very nice smiles, very nice smiles.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 4: Doug's got a nice uh, Doug's got a nice neck.

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Speaker 3: It's got like you know what, You're not wrong?

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Speaker 4: You know, I will say, so I have the tidbit

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Speaker 4: about Doug.

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Speaker 3: Oh you do?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do?

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Speaker 3: Dog is the one you have the tidbit on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, like I.

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Speaker 5: Was saying, I have been a reality TV casting director

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Speaker 5: for many years. Full disclosure, I've never worked on The Bachelor,

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Speaker 5: the Bachelorette, but lots and lots of dating shows and

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Speaker 5: I actually have dms going back to twenty twenty three

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Speaker 5: with Doug trying to get him on TV.

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Speaker 2: You wanted to get him on TV or he wanted

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Speaker 2: to be on TV.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to get him on TV.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because you could tell he looks like he should

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Speaker 2: be exactly.

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Speaker 5: He's very attractive and for anybody wanting his Instagram handle,

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Speaker 5: it is underscore toned bone.

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Speaker 3: But that's judgy, like what toned bone? What does that mean?

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Speaker 4: Owned bone? I have no idea Doug Mason. Why that

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Speaker 4: is your Instagram handle?

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Speaker 3: But it is?

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Speaker 5: And so I won't say what shows I hit him

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Speaker 5: up for, but they were all dating shows, and he

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Speaker 5: responded to me every time that he was single, so

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Speaker 5: I know he was single going back to twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 5: but I will say that he turned me down multiple

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Speaker 5: times because because he was focusing on his acting and

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Speaker 5: his modeling career.

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Speaker 3: So he just wants to be I don't know.

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Speaker 5: What had changed from twenty twenty three to now that

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Speaker 5: that is no longer.

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Speaker 3: Oh there's two things, f boy.

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Speaker 2: Or his career is not going well enough now and

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Speaker 2: now he needs a boost, okay. Or he loves the

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Speaker 2: fact that Freaky Taylor Taylor Frankie Paul is famous.

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Speaker 3: And he will immediately be dating a famous.

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Speaker 2: Girl who will have a continuing reality show after this.

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Speaker 5: Or maybe he saw the light and realized that going

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Speaker 5: on a dating show does not kill.

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Speaker 4: Either of these other versions of your career, Doug.

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Speaker 5: Maybe somebody finally showed him the light that I could

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Speaker 5: not over messaging. But yeah, I'm definitely very excited to

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Speaker 5: see him on this journey because as soon as I

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Speaker 5: saw this list, I went I know that guy, I

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Speaker 5: have seen that guy multiple times in my DMS, and

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Speaker 5: so that's the way it goes sometimes with shows.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm excited to see Doug on the show.

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Speaker 2: All right, so am I? I think he might be

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Speaker 2: my front runner right now. I think Doug and Brandon

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Speaker 3: We have Lou Lou w e w. Oh wow, I'm

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Speaker 3: just like sick.

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Speaker 2: We have a Lou l e W Lou. He's thirty two,

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Speaker 2: and I was initially like, I don't know. He's a

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Speaker 2: nice looking, handsome man, like there's no doubt that this

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Speaker 2: is a good face. He needs to grow his hair out.

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Speaker 2: He has hair, but it's like sut and not a

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Speaker 2: good look. This guy could be really cute, actually if

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Speaker 2: he had a few inches on top. So I was like, eh, Lou, okay,

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Speaker 2: I could see that being her type. So I was like,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's kind of borderline. But then I saw

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Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, Utah, and then he got on my list.

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Speaker 3: He's a hometown guy.

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Speaker 2: I think that makes it for an easier process, so

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Speaker 2: he's going further than I would think. What do you

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Speaker 2: think about Lou w l e W.

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Speaker 4: So, first of all, Lou Yes, handsome guy when it

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Speaker 5: Not really something I like in the sense personally of

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Speaker 5: when it's like scruffy on the neck because it's hard

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Speaker 5: and his neck begins and it's like scrush on the neck.

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Speaker 5: Not really a fan of that, scruff on the face,

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Speaker 5: not on the neck. Anyways, I digress. I think the

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Speaker 5: Salt Lake City angle is interesting. Yes, I think that

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Speaker 5: that could be a great signed for a relationship. It's

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Speaker 5: a little bit concerning to me as a fan of

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Speaker 5: the show, which I mean secret lives of Mormon wives,

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Speaker 5: that there's no way you live in Utah and you

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Speaker 5: don't know who Taylor Frankie Paul is. You don't have

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Speaker 5: some sort of preconceived notion of who she is or

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Speaker 5: what her background is, or you don't already know her

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Speaker 2: This is definitely a guy who knows like one of

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Speaker 2: the exes.

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Speaker 3: I would say, thank you.

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Speaker 5: This is what I think is like producers are probably

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Speaker 5: being messy, producers being casting people, being like, let's put

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Speaker 5: somebody in that maybe like went to her high school

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Speaker 5: or somebody that knows her sibling or like worked for

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. It's like, so there's.

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Speaker 5: That that I'm just like like, uh, but I'm excited

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Speaker 5: to see it. I think Lou out of the Utah

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Speaker 5: one that could be the front runner of those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the only one from Salt Lake City

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Speaker 3: that I put on the list.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And also, just to be nitpicky, I don't think that

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Speaker 5: this color shirt is doing him any favors. I think

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Speaker 5: he really should have done something like darns or skin

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Speaker 5: tone exactly. That's why I'm like Lou Net for a

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Speaker 5: casting photo. For the actual bachelorette photo, he will probably

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Speaker 5: not be in that color.

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Speaker 4: He will be in something else.

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Speaker 3: I want to go off what you were saying. I

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Speaker 3: do think that this guy.

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Speaker 2: May have had a past, maybe not a past with her,

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Speaker 2: but like he hasn't been able to date her before,

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Speaker 3: On the show to date her, so I'll see.

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Speaker 5: Or how do you know that producers aren't going to

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Speaker 4: It was amazing she didn't call me back.

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Speaker 3: The fact that they don't do that more often.

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Speaker 2: Come on now, that would be so fun to watch

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Speaker 2: for people getting out of the limo and be like, whoops.

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Speaker 5: Dating shows where they did that, where they did oh,

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Speaker 5: the same thing with Love Island this last season two.

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Speaker 5: They didn't do this on purpose, but two people that

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Speaker 5: ended up matching up had met at a club before

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Speaker 5: guys or some of the Utah guys in general, I

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Speaker 5: just feel like that's going to end up being a storyline.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be we matched on a dating site, you

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Speaker 3: Gotcha love it all right? Last guy for me kind

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Speaker 3: of looks like Tanner Tolbert kind of looks.

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Speaker 2: Like Tanner and Michael Garifola had a baby. And he's

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Speaker 2: thirty six from San Diego, California. It's Michael definitely has

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Speaker 2: the look that Taylor likes and he's thirty six, and

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Speaker 2: it's that's awesome. I even one of the comments underneath

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Speaker 2: the photos was like Michael she's gonna pick him, who's

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Speaker 3: Usually love it.

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Speaker 5: I fully agree that Michael, I think is a front runner.

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Speaker 5: Like this guy looks like a stud. First of all,

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Speaker 5: I'm really the facial hair good. Notice the neck, it's

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Speaker 4: But the hair looks really good.

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Speaker 2: Great hair, And like love the smile, like the crows feet,

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Speaker 2: Like we are all annoyed that it works so well

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Speaker 3: Crossfeed.

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Speaker 5: Yep, he's got I'm really into the shirp of collar.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: I know me too, And it says high I could

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Speaker 2: live in Salt Lake and we know that. Like they

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Speaker 2: picked this photo on purpose because they wanted us to

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Speaker 2: think that this guy gave cold weather vibes.

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Speaker 5: Agree, I will say though it's giving headshot vibes.

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Speaker 2: Oh one thousand percent. This is a headshot. Now is

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Speaker 2: it a headshot for like his lumber company or is

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Speaker 2: he has he owns a company in which he uses

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Speaker 5: I think he's a guy who does brawny paper towel

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Speaker 3: Probably right, I'm just being hopeful.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but we're into it.

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Speaker 5: We're both aligned in the fact that we think Michael

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Speaker 2: Anyone else who I missed that you think is going

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Speaker 5: I think, just based on the articles that have come

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Speaker 5: out that I think who is Lana del Rey's ex fiance,

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Speaker 5: I think he's going to stick around for a minute.

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Speaker 4: Clayton. I don't know if he's going to go far,

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Speaker 5: With a celebrity connection, he's not going to be going

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: And to be honest, like his face looks like it

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Speaker 3: This is so funny.

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Speaker 2: I guess normally we don't know what the leads, like

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Speaker 4: Well, I can also say I don't know how many.

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Speaker 5: People on the casting team normally work on a season,

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Speaker 5: but I can tell you that almost everybody that I

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Speaker 5: some capacity. I'm not even kidding that. I stopped counting

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Speaker 5: after Like I saw six of my colleagues working on

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Speaker 3: So they're no way you are coming with the tea.

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Speaker 3: I love this.

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Speaker 5: So many people that worked to make this season happen,

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Speaker 5: That's what when we talked about they kind of did

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Speaker 5: So so yeah, like they had already a bunch of

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Speaker 4: But yeah, a lot of.

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Speaker 2: For sure, they definitely want to be successful in the

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Speaker 2: Lives exactly. And in addition to that, the more people

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Speaker 2: going to have. Could you imagine if you walked into

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Speaker 2: I'm also just speaking on behalf of myself.

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Speaker 3: If I walked into a room and there were six

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Speaker 2: Type, like, holy crap, I was truly expecting one if

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Speaker 5: And I know you started watching the show recently, so

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Speaker 4: She falls hard and fast, and so that's what's.

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Speaker 5: Going to be so interesting because if they give her

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you think he's hot, So let me see

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Speaker 3: this guy.

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Speaker 4: I think he's the hottest in the bunch.

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Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, hold on, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling.

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Speaker 4: We talk about the rugged look. He's got that ll

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Speaker 4: Bean catalog looking.

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Speaker 3: All right, you know what it is.

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Speaker 2: He does have a good face, totally understand what you're

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Speaker 2: I mean he is not bald. Yeah, he just I

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Speaker 2: little bit. Anything that resembles a buzz cut is not

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Speaker 2: I fully agree with that. But he has your neck

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and also he needs to tighten that up. You

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Speaker 5: know what I'm going to say. I'm going to say

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Speaker 5: he he was in between, because like he's also really

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Speaker 5: not really my thing.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, there's something about him. I think he

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Speaker 4: looks like.

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Speaker 5: A former bachelor, doctor Travis Stork.

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Speaker 3: I see that, definitely saying.

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Speaker 4: One of the hottest bachelors of all time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was underrated, right, And I do love thirty

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Speaker 2: five Charleston, South Carolina. I do see her with somebody

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Speaker 3: You know, I would cut ice.

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Speaker 2: We always get weary when we see the southern California guys, but.

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Speaker 4: That's close to Utah, Ashley.

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Speaker 2: It's not a far flight southern California. Yeah no, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know, but it's just like you know that they

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Speaker 2: always I always feel like they might be a little

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Speaker 5: But you're You're absolutely right for the most part. It's

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Speaker 5: I hear you. I think the East Coast, guys are

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Speaker 5: I think that she really is going to take that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, alrighty well, guys, that was fun. Can't wait to

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Speaker 4: I think so too. I think it did start filming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm gonna have to I'm I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: to stock her activity on Instagram. I'm surprised that she

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Speaker 2: didn't say audios, but I guess it'll be obvious.

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Speaker 5: I know that they put out a notice last week

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Speaker 5: group date and Los Angeles, but that is not until

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Speaker 2: So you know what's weird is normally they start in

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Speaker 5: Well, can I just say that if you want to

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Speaker 3: See.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking that they could not start filming in

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Speaker 5: Well, I think alsomber the Bachelor mansion renovation we know

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Speaker 2: Yep, lots of things to think about, all right, guess

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Speaker 2: we love it so much, so so much.

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Speaker 3: Until next time. I've been Ashley, I've been Heather.

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