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Speaker 1: What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out Podcast, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, right after a little really good game out

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Speaker 1: of Ohio with the Bengals and the Browns, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna dive into that right off the bat. Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, some thoughts there, a lot of other stuff

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Speaker 1: going on the show. Allen Robinson some drama with him

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Speaker 1: this week. Have some thoughts there. I'm embarrassed to be

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Speaker 1: a Pack twelve fan. We'll dive into everything that happened

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Speaker 1: the last couple of days. I'll do my three for

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Speaker 1: the money. I picked three games every week, two for

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Speaker 1: one last week. All I feel really good about two

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Speaker 1: of my picks this week and pretty good about the

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Speaker 1: third as well. Give a couple of other thoughts and

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Speaker 1: we'll dive into the Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: don't leave one. But but I think the big story

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Speaker 1: of the night, and I've always believed this you know

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Speaker 1: it when you see it, And I think it's hard

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Speaker 1: in this day and age because we love to quantify everything.

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily, but I think so many people in

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Speaker 1: sports need the box score. The analytical people like to me,

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Speaker 1: there's something you just you know you have something special

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Speaker 1: when you see it. Now, this guy had a pretty

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Speaker 1: good box score. He was thirty seven and sixty one.

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Speaker 1: And last year, right, he had a historic year at

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Speaker 1: l s U. They won the national championship. He won

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Speaker 1: the Heisman. Uh, I mean, he would have been the

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Speaker 1: m v P of the Final four, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: he he he's a highly he's a high player. I mean,

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Speaker 1: went number one in the draft. So it's not like

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Speaker 1: Belichick today said that Russell Wilson, he's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I think he's kind of underrated. No, Bill,

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Speaker 1: I think I think we all acknowledge Russell Wilson's like

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen. He's a superstar. Like, No, Bill,

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Speaker 1: we get it. But Joe Burrow, anytime you're a rookie,

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Speaker 1: I think there's just how good is this guy gonna be?

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Speaker 1: What's he gonna look like a lot of times. Right,

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Speaker 1: when you go number one, you go to a really

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Speaker 1: shitty team. If you're the number one recruit in like

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Speaker 1: the tech industry or the architecture industry, or I would

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Speaker 1: imagine coming out of like some sweet law firm, you're

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Speaker 1: going to an elite institution, right, you're going to Middle

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Speaker 1: Coffin Howard, or you're going to work at Google, or

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Speaker 1: pay you a lot. You're going to work with the Bryce,

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Speaker 1: the best in the field. You're gonna start off pretty well.

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Speaker 1: But in pro sports, especially what ball, you're the number

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Speaker 1: one overall picked, there is no draft lottery. You go

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Speaker 1: to the shittiest team in the league. And this year

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Speaker 1: And Joe Burrow went there, and I give him credit

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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, he appreciated to those people. I know,

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Speaker 1: Let's see what he looks like with the worst offensive

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Speaker 1: He looked like the best player in the Bengals by

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Speaker 1: my ex aectations for Joe Burrow. Like a lot of

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Speaker 1: You know, if you throw for a couple hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: especially young players, because you learn a lot about the

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Speaker 1: guy Joe Burrow's maturity, the way he carries himself. He's

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Speaker 1: got like this infectious positive attitude. Just clearly from last

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Speaker 1: He's running for his life and luckily he can run

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Speaker 1: because in two thousand twenty and moving forward, the day

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Speaker 1: Brady's the greatest quarterback of all time. The day and

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Speaker 1: age of playing like that is over. The only quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: I can see and I mean I watched the games,

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Speaker 1: If I'm a Cincinnati Bengal fan, win or lose, the

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Speaker 1: results of these games don't even matter. The future does.

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Speaker 1: And I have the future at quarterback. You basically have

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Speaker 1: let's go to the other side. Baker Mayfield was sixteen

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Speaker 1: Because here's what we know, and I feel very confident

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Speaker 1: And these are the type games Baker will be judged

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Speaker 1: get overpaid by I don't know thirty percent. Why all

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00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: these top players. Hell, if you're an average player, you

426
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: want to hit free agency. You don't want to get

427
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: franchise tag. But I would imagine I haven't even looked

428
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: at the Bears cap. You know why, because the cap

429
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: numbers don't matter. You can cut guys, you can trade guys.

430
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: Nothing is more relevant in the NFL than the team's

431
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: cap number week two of what it's gonna be when

432
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: free agency hits. We know that, and especially this year,

433
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 1: we have no here's the other problem with Allen Robinson.

434
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: So let's say you're the Bears and you want to

435
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: get aggressive and sign them. You're not sure what the

436
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: cap is gonna be because we're in this coronavirus season

437
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: where the minimum it can be as one seventy five,

438
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: and who knows if fans it seems like we're headed

439
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: that maybe fans start being integrated into all teams October, November, December.

440
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,479
Speaker 1: Maybe it ends up at one nine, right, I don't know.

441
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 1: I I can't even pretend to guess. I talk to

442
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: people in the NFL. They don't know. There's a huge

443
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: just unknown. And when you're dealing with unknowns, usually with

444
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: guys that are really good players, not great players, you're

445
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: not gonna quote unquote overpay. So I stand on where

446
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: the Bears are now. They they put themselves in this position,

447
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: like I said, because of Mr Bisky and having to

448
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: go get fulls. So they created the situation. But they're

449
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: in this situation and I understand, Like I'm sure he's

450
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: asking for an astronomical amount of money, and I'm sure

451
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,719
Speaker 1: the Bears don't feel comfortable paying that much money. Like

452
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: it's just it's part of doing business, Like this is

453
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: the NFL. These decisions are difficult. I'll be shocked if

454
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: he gets traded. Also be shocked if they're not able

455
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: to figure this out as time goes on. Everyone just

456
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: needs to take a deep breath. These guys are professionals.

457
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson's a baller and the Bears need him. Okay,

458
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: let's dive into something that just kind of happened out

459
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: of nowhere on Wednesday. I think we've known for the

460
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: last week or two did the Big ten was coming back?

461
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, after the

462
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: Big Ten announces, some pressure gets put on the governor

463
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: who lies in the state of California. Turns out the

464
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: Pack twelve is gonna be able to come back now too.

465
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: And and we learned something that I've known for a while.

466
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: The Pack twelve and high school football isn't taking place

467
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 1: in the state of California either. Did not get postponed

468
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 1: because of science. It has not been being played because

469
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: of politics. And I can't obviously that factors into the

470
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: Big Ten, but I can't speak to that. I live

471
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: out here, and I can speak to the way we're

472
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: thinking out here. And before you go middle Couff, you're

473
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: just a mega No, I'm actually about as middle of

474
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: the road as you're gonna meet. I'm a fiscal conservative

475
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: that will never change. I could not be anymore socially liberal.

476
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump is nuts. I think Mike Pence

477
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: is a stiff. I think Joe Biden is losing his marbles.

478
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: I think Kamala Harris is a bad person. Google her resume.

479
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: But here's what I have no dog in this fight.

480
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: All I know is this definitely the way the people

481
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: have been treated in my state of California. It hasn't

482
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: added up for a while. It's not being about science

483
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: two or three months ago. In California, we are by

484
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: far the most most lockdown state, yet our numbers don't

485
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: equal it. It hasn't added up. But when the Big

486
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: Ten came back and clearly the pressure that their programs

487
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: are much bigger and much more, you know, powerful nationally

488
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 1: and locally than any of our programs out here. The

489
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: power that Ohio State wheels, Michigan wheels, Penn State wheels,

490
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: it's not even close pro sports on the West coast Midwest,

491
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: they do pro sports and college sports, but those programs,

492
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: especially their football programs, are huge. I'm jealous, but I

493
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: love the Pack twelve and I give a lot of

494
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: my attention, and I'm embarrassed by what has happened. I

495
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: don't blame the players, and I definitely don't blame the coaches.

496
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: But listen that our our government is we're extreme out here,

497
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 1: and it's there were rules in play that you couldn't

498
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: have more than twelve people on the field at once.

499
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: I had friends that were high school coaches. Then a

500
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: couple of months ago before they canceled the season, said

501
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: they just tried to have some practices. He's like, John,

502
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: this is the dumbest thing we ever did. We weren't

503
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: even allowed to touch the balls. You can. You can't

504
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: practice football if only eleven or twelve people can be

505
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: on the field at one time. It's humanly impossible. So

506
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: once the Big ten became official, Gavin Newsom, the governor

507
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: of the Santa California, because we have a lot of

508
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: our states on fire, that's a whole another can of worms.

509
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: Uh politically too, but there he was asked about the

510
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: Pack twelve and he said there was nothing holding back

511
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: the Pack twelve, which was complete bullshit. There were rules

512
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: on place about these cohorts where you couldn't practice, that

513
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 1: were in place that just got lifted earlier today as

514
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm recording this. So the pressure once he kind of

515
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: backed off because he didn't want blood in his hands,

516
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: like he wasn't the guy holding it act. And they're

517
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: gonna be people like Middle Coffin is about the science

518
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 1: it's all about testing. The Pack twelve like a month ago,

519
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: signed a contract with to do daily testing. This is

520
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: where the program and the Pack twelve. The conference operates

521
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: like a bunch of sheep. They can't do anything on

522
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: their own. Like you could have started moving the ball.

523
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: The forty Niners are playing, the Rams are playing, the

524
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are playing, the Denver Broncos are playing, Seattle

525
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: is playing. You could have got the ball rolling. It's

526
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: not that complicated. Be forward thinking, start reaching out and

527
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: pushing the government. You have the testing. That was the

528
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: big issue. They were so scared of their own shadow

529
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: they had to wait for the Big Ten to do it,

530
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: to even think about it. And honestly, if Gavin Newsome

531
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: was not asking the press conference, it might not have

532
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: even taken place. As someone that loves this conference, I'm embarrassed.

533
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: I think it is such a joke the way they've

534
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: approached this. Now. I admire the way the SEC, the

535
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: a SEC and the Big twelve did it. They just operated.

536
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: Now the Big Ten clearly it got much more political.

537
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: The Pact twelve was just waiting for what Like you

538
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: got the testing almost a month ago. You were just

539
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: gonna hope and pray. Someone just reached out to you.

540
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: In fairness to the California government, which is pretty inept.

541
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: It's not like they were their first worry, is hey,

542
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: I wonder if Stanford and the seven thousand people that

543
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: attend their football games are worried about playing football, like

544
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: it is on you to be proactive in this situation,

545
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: and they just weren't. And there's a reason right now.

546
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: It's really the power for and then the Pact twelve.

547
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: And it is not the coach's fault because there are

548
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: several coaches, you know in this conference, several high level players,

549
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, several future NFL players. Their leadership and their

550
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: administration is consistently letting them down. This has become they

551
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: claimed they're the Conference of Champions, of the Conference of

552
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: Followers right now. And it's sad because it has some

553
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: of the best academic universities like USC, U c l A,

554
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: Cal Stanford. I only applied to one of the four

555
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: because I knew I was kalin. Stanford wouldn't even open

556
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: my you know application, USC couldn't afford it, and U

557
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: c l A. I applied and they gave me a

558
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: big Now, like in all these programs, especially like USC,

559
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: Stanford and cal like they've been really good in the

560
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: last twenty years, been like top five programs. Obviously USC's

561
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: one national championships callender Tedford was awesome, and Stanford under

562
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: David Shaw this last decade has had several teams go

563
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: to Rose Poles and it's like they're just sitting on

564
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: their hands, like this big time college football, what are

565
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: we doing here? And I get like, does everyone just

566
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: want to be followers? Now? Are And I understand in California,

567
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: like it's just it's a weird It's becoming a more

568
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: bizarre and nutty place by the day. But I I

569
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: just I'm baffled by the way everything went down and

570
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: why the PAC twelve who had this testing now had

571
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: to wait for the Big ten to do something before

572
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: they did it. The a SEC didn't worry about what

573
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: the Big ten or the PACTUAL did. They just operated.

574
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: Same with the SEC, same with the Big twelve. Now

575
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: I get the culture is a little different out here,

576
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: and despite our numbers not looking like anywhere else, especially

577
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: the Northeast in this country, we're always gonna play it safe,

578
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: not me personally, but and definitely not any businessman I

579
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: know definitely not the football coaches I know in the

580
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: pros that coach in this state, but I guess collegiately.

581
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: But we're just hoping someone reached out to you, because

582
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 1: if that's the way you operate in life, hoping someone's

583
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: gonna reach out to you, I just hope for my

584
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: big break, when when's the guy gonna call, when's the

585
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: girl going to slide into my d MS? You're always

586
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: gonna be waiting, because that's not the way the world works.

587
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: And for it to take to some random person asking

588
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: the governor a question and then forcing him to lie,

589
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: and then because he didn't want to look like an idiot,

590
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: change in the rules overnight for the Pack twelve to

591
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: play football, I just, I mean I had to shake

592
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: my head, you know, um honestly, uh, I get back

593
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: you use this word again. Kind of embarrassed to be

594
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: a fan of the conference, I really am. I I'm

595
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: thinking about just becoming a full time SEC fan though.

596
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a sucker for Pack twelve late at

597
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: night and the and these some of these programs mean

598
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: a lot to me. Like I I enjoy watching Washington

599
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: and Oregon and cal in USC play football. But gosh darn,

600
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing here? Okay, let's do

601
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: a little three for the money. I had a solid

602
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: starting week two for one. I actually bet on two

603
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: of these three games. Bet on the Steelers. Want some cash.

604
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: Bet on the Raiders against the Panthers. Won some cash.

605
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: Took the Browns against the Ravens that did not go well.

606
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: I feel really good about my three picks this week.

607
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: What we're doing three for the money? I picked three

608
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: games against the spread. And why I like him. I'm

609
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: gonna start with the Denver Broncos plus seven and a

610
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: half at the Steelers. The Denver Broncos. I don't know

611
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: if they're a wild card team, but I know what.

612
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: They're not a five or six win team. They're gonna

613
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: win between seven and nine games. They have a ton

614
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: of offensive firepower. I think it's clear. The quarterback is solid,

615
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: and their defense is just well coached. And their physical Now,

616
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: I saw today a J. Booyer, or maybe it was

617
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: two days ago, got hurt in that Monday night game.

618
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: He's out. He's starting corner. Not ideal. Obviously Van's gone.

619
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: But one thing that's clear with Vick Fangio is he

620
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: some all time great coach. No as a head coach.

621
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: I think he's a really good defensive coordinator. But he's

622
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: got this team, he's got the train on the tracks. Like,

623
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: this team is gonna be solid, They're gonna compete. They

624
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: have talent, and it looks like they got a young quarterback. Now,

625
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: this defense is good, but I don't see the Steelers

626
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: just blowing them out. So you get seven and a

627
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: half points when you get Yeah, the Steelers might be

628
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: in an eleven win team, but the view the Banco

629
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: Broncos like an eight win team. So when I get

630
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: matchups with a solid team playing a good team, I'm

631
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: gonna take over a touchdown every time, especially early in

632
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: this season. You give me seven and a half, eight,

633
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: eight and a half points, I'm going with solid teams.

634
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: Now you give me crappy teams, I don't feel as good.

635
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: Do you give me a team like the Denver Broncos,

636
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: who I think you're just gonna be competitive all season long.

637
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Speaker 1: I like him plus seven and a half. This is

638
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Speaker 1: my favorite game of the week, and they got a

639
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: kittle as in practice all week. Richard Sherman's now an

640
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Speaker 1: injured reserve A Kelly Weatherspoon, the backup for Richard Sherman

641
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: as a concussion. They had as signed Mohamed san Knew,

642
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: who couldn't even practice till Friday because of the Corona rules.

643
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: They got injuries up to wazoo, but they are playing

644
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Speaker 1: potentially the worst team in the last three or four years,

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Speaker 1: probably since the O N sixteen Browns. I think the

646
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: Jets are horrendous. Now Bell's hurt, crowders out, They're in shambles.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan alone even with all those guys injured, and

648
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: now I think Kid was supposed to play in the game,

649
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Speaker 1: should beat the Jets at war seventeen to nothing. I

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00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: don't see how the Jets, who really got some points

651
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Speaker 1: of points off turnover against the Bills and hit some

652
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: crazy ass crowder play again, who's not playing in this game?

653
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: He took it like seventy five yards. It's like a

654
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: quick little screen in the flat. He like made a

655
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Speaker 1: couple of guys miss and it was a nice play.

656
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Speaker 1: But that guy's not even playing. So Wayne Krabett, Keishawn Johnson,

657
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: Joe namath ain't walking through that door. The Jets stink,

658
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Speaker 1: and my betting philosophy in two thousand, twenty. Right now

659
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Speaker 1: is when I get teams that I think are gonna

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Speaker 1: be good. And I don't know Thentters are gonna be

661
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: as good as they were last year, but worst case,

662
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: I think they're eight or nine wins. I think the

663
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: Jets might win like two games. Do you give me

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Speaker 1: minus seven? I think the Niners destroy them and the

665
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: score still might be twenty to three, but minus seven.

666
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Speaker 1: I like the Niners. This is my lock of the week.

667
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: I love this game. This game is not far behind.

668
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Speaker 1: The Dolphins are better than the Jets, but I think

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Speaker 1: last year there was like this, you know, just media

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Speaker 1: love for Brian Flores. They won all these games. The

671
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: media loves when you tank because I think they view

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Speaker 1: themselves like I could tank. You know, it's just it's weird.

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Speaker 1: I I personally despised tanking, and they're tanking actually didn't

674
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Speaker 1: totally work because they didn't get the number one pick.

675
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: They probably got the second best quarterback in this draft,

676
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Speaker 1: and we'll see, I mean two hasn't played yet. But

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Speaker 1: I just don't think the Dolphins are that good. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking like five wins. I think the

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00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Bills are gonna win twelve thirteen games, Bills minus six.

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Speaker 1: I could not like the Bills anymore. Actually, I might

681
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Speaker 1: talk myself out of the Niners is my favorite game.

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Speaker 1: This might be my favorite game the more I think

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Speaker 1: about it. The Bills have a dominant defense, they can

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Speaker 1: stop the run. They have a quarterback who's just getting

685
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Speaker 1: better before our eyes. They also can run the ball,

686
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Speaker 1: and they got a more potent passing game now with

687
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: Digs and Josh just being a more consistent pastor. They

688
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Speaker 1: have a better coach in this game. They have clearly

689
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Speaker 1: the better roster. I couldn't like the Bills anymore. I

690
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Speaker 1: think the Bill has got a chance to probably beside

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Ravens. You know, I think it's

692
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Speaker 1: fair to say both those two teams should win thirteen games.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bills could be the third seed in

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Speaker 1: the a f C. I really do so. I'm going

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Speaker 1: Broncos plus seven and a half, Niners minus seven, Bills

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Speaker 1: minus six. Okay, let's dive into the middlecoff mail back.

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Speaker 1: But before we do, and I'm banging out a couple

698
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Speaker 1: of questions, I just want to hit a couple of

699
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Speaker 1: things this upcoming Sunday. I think three guys have a

700
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Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Jimmy Garoppolo, Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott.

701
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: These guys need to play better. Carson Wentz the two

702
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: picks we talked about earlier this week, Like they're playing

703
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Speaker 1: the Rams, it's at home. Not that it necessarily matters

704
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Speaker 1: because there aren't fans, but he's gotta find a way

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Speaker 1: to get his team will win. You know, he's a

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Speaker 1: max player. He's just gotta figure it out. And I

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Speaker 1: know it's hard. I think Lane Johnson's back this week. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Donald probably give their interior offensive line havoc.

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Speaker 1: But he's just he's gotta He's gotta will him too.

710
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Speaker 1: That that's what great players do, that they find a

711
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Speaker 1: way in a situation like this. Dak Prescott just left

712
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 1: a little something to be desired last week playing with

713
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: those three wide receivers. Zeke just looking like young Zeke bro.

714
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: You gotta play better. You want to get maxed out,

715
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Speaker 1: you want a huge contract, like you gotta win. You're

716
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Speaker 1: not gonna get a huge contract from the Dallas Cowboys.

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00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: If the team goes eight and night, it's just not

718
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: gonna happen, and it shouldn't happen. Why would you pay

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Speaker 1: a quarterback huge money if you're going eight and Nate

720
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Speaker 1: I as well as get a rookie and Jimmy Garoppolo,

721
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Speaker 1: who is horrendous. You're playing the Jets. Just last week

722
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Speaker 1: was just unacceptable. It was terrible. So I think there

723
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Speaker 1: are a lot of pressure and a lot of eyeballs

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Speaker 1: are gonna be on these three guys because they're just

725
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Speaker 1: polarizing players, right Carson because of foals, Doc because of

726
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Speaker 1: the contract, Jimmy because everyone thinks Kyle's doing everything. That's

727
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Speaker 1: what makes football fun. You know, in basketball, when a

728
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Speaker 1: guy he either produces or he doesn't, like you're not

729
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Speaker 1: really a product of the system. In the NBA, if

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Speaker 1: you throw up twenty five, you throw up twenty five,

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Speaker 1: it's like, well it's Eric Spoelstra is getting them back

732
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: cuts all game right now, it doesn't really happen. You

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Speaker 1: get ten assists, like you're making good passes. In the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, he's scheming him wheel routes. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's ceedee Lamb's wide open. Like I think it's fair

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Speaker 1: to say most football fans, I think we've got a

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Speaker 1: smart audience here. We know when we see it and

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Speaker 1: what we saw to those three guys was just it

739
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: was bad on different levels of bad, but but still

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Speaker 1: like it. Just those guys they get the microscope on him. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's part of this season and the Sunday night game.

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Speaker 1: I'm just fascinated by. You know, I think Seattle really

743
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Speaker 1: flex their muscles, and I get Atlanta Dan Quinn kind

744
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: of steak, but Russell Wilson that they usually play shitty

745
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: in those type games on the road ten am kickoff

746
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Speaker 1: West Coast team, you know, traveling or whatever. Think about it.

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00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: Seattle do Atlanta. That's that's deep. It doesn't get much

748
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Speaker 1: further than that. You have to go to like Miami.

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Speaker 1: That's a long track. They destroyed the Falcons clearly. They

750
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: are more talented than the Patriots, just have deeper, you know,

751
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: more explosive players at more positions. Russell is just much

752
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: better than Cam. But it's Cam good enough. Does he

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00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: take another step this week? You know last week he

754
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: threw for five yards. They ain't getting it done Sunday night.

755
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: Can you throw for two fifty to seventy and run

756
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: for another sixty? Fascinated to watch him and Jamal Adams

757
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: go after it. It's not a great week on the slate,

758
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: but that's a game Sunday night. Sign me up. You

759
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: actually don't have to sign me up because I watch

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00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: every Sunday night game because I'm a football addict and

761
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: I'm usually sitting around watching football at John Middlecoff is

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00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: the insta fire in those d m s and you

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Speaker 1: get it read right here. Huge fan of the podcast,

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Speaker 1: My favorite podcast to listen to. I appreciate that I

765
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: don't need to read the compliments, but you know, sometimes

766
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Speaker 1: I like doing it. I got a question, what do

767
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: you make of the Eagles lost to Washington? The Eagles

768
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: are better on paper than Washington. Is it Carson Wents

769
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Speaker 1: fault or is the Eagles defense fault? I'm blaming Carson,

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Speaker 1: you know you just the two picks were inexcusable. We

771
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: talked about him, how I just mentioned him. It's just

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Speaker 1: you get max money in this league. Jared Goff, Carson

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00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 1: Wentz Grapplea doesn't make as much as those two guys,

774
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: but he still makes dollars. Like you get hell to

775
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: a higher standard once you become a max player in sports.

776
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: I just told you to high standard. There's a reason

777
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: everyone ships on Harden and Russell Westbrook. They make it

778
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: combined four thirty million dollars. Get the freaking job done.

779
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: Stop giving me excuses. Just get the job done. That's

780
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: how everyone talks to all of us and normal jobs.

781
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: If you're a sales guy, you're either selling or you're not.

782
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: If you're making a product, it's either good or it's not.

783
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: Once I start paying you hundreds of millions of dollars,

784
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: you either win or you don't. Was the Pats game

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00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: yesterday evidence that the Patriots never had faith in Stidham?

786
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Speaker 1: With all the design runs and throws between the hashes,

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing that Stidham was even

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Speaker 1: considered as a starter. He obviously would wouldn't benefit in

789
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Speaker 1: the style of plays they had yesterday. I think the Pats,

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Speaker 1: I think the Pats say they believed in Sidham were

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00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,400
Speaker 1: full of ship. Well, I don't totally disagree with you,

792
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: but I think you can't judge what the Pats do

793
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: because I heard Dilfors say this on Racillo's podcast, and

794
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: he was right. The past don't have a playbook. So

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Speaker 1: if the Pats acquired like if they acquired uh, I mean,

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Speaker 1: think about it. They had Tom Brady they ran because

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Speaker 1: something completely different. They get Cam Newton, they run that.

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Speaker 1: They'll run whatever their players do well. I was thinking

799
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Speaker 1: about this the other day. If I ever like make

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Speaker 1: it in business and people go like, what what is

801
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: your business philosophy? I hope this is what I say.

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00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: I approached business like Belichick approach football. I did whatever

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Speaker 1: it took to make money. Bill Belichick does whatever it

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Speaker 1: takes to win. He gains Cam Newton. What would you do?

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Speaker 1: You run them? Why? Because he's like secretariat. If you

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00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: had Jared Goff, you wouldn't run that offense. It's like,

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00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: if it's you know, two thousand twenty, you better be

808
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: on Instagram and Twitter. If you do what I do,

809
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: you better be tweeting out links to your podcast. You

810
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: better be aggressive on social media. You better have a

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Speaker 1: presence on the internet. In two thousand two, if I

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Speaker 1: was doing the same job, I wouldn't have to do that.

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00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: And in in two thousand maybe it's completely changed. Better

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Speaker 1: be open minded. Cam Newton might not be on the

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Speaker 1: Patriots next year, right, maybe gets injured this year. Maybe

816
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Speaker 1: they end up not being as good As the season

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Speaker 1: goes on and they'll have a new quarterback, they'll do

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Speaker 1: something different. It is Belichick's greatest strength. He can do

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Speaker 1: whatever it takes. And I think the best coaches on offense.

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Speaker 1: I think you see it with Sean Payton. I think

821
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Speaker 1: he'll be able to work with anybody. Obviously. Think about Andy.

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Speaker 1: Read this last two decades, from Donovan McNabb to Michael

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Speaker 1: Vick to Alex Smith nowt of the Homes. He won

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Speaker 1: a game last week year with Matt Moore. Like the

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00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: best offensive coaches, I think this the best coaches in general.

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Speaker 1: Why would you ever pigeonhole yourself? I think about this

827
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Speaker 1: all the time. People like middle golf, You just like

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00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 1: you just stick to football. Well, I think I probably

829
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: know more about golf and the NBA than most people,

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Speaker 1: and I like I watch it all. Why wouldn't I

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Speaker 1: talk about it? Right? I like talking about the stock market.

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Speaker 1: Why can't I talk about that too? I never want

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Speaker 1: to be pigeonholed. I like other stuff. I want to

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Speaker 1: be open minded about other stuff. Now to be good

835
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Speaker 1: at the other stuff, you have to invest time. What

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Speaker 1: do you think Belichick and uh Josh McDaniels did off

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Speaker 1: off season? My guests, they studied the Carolina Panthers from

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton's good seasons. My other guests is they studied

839
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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and what they did, and they go, yeah,

840
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: we like to do this, we like to do that.

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Speaker 1: Let's incorporate this. This is what Cam likes to do.

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00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: Let's incorporate that when we start practicing. Let's see if

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Speaker 1: Cam wants to do this. See what he likes to

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Speaker 1: do that everything they did with Tom Brady, you know

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Speaker 1: what they did. Besides, like some of the passing concepts,

846
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: they probably lit it on fire because that's not gonna

847
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: be Cam Newton. I honestly, that's for all Belichick's success

848
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: on the field, you know, winning championships and winning these

849
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: historic games that we've all watched in prime time over

850
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: the years. The thing I respect about him most he

851
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: can do whatever the funk it takes to win a

852
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: football game. Whether that's running times or whether that's passes,

853
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: it does not matter, and he's great at it. Do

854
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: you think Baker could be cut traded at the Browns? Uh?

855
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: Don't go at least eight and eight. Could you see

856
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 1: him going to a team where he becomes a backup

857
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: and maybe Ryan tannehill career resurrection Later on, Ryan Tannehill

858
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: is more talented than than Baker Mayfield. But yeah, I

859
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: mean I think this is a maker break year for

860
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: him for sure. I think they're There's just no doubt

861
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: about it that if they want to win and big picture,

862
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: because they have a bunch of talent. As I as

863
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: I opened up the show with, he's got to play well.

864
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: If he does not play well this season, his job

865
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: is in jeopardy. That's not a hot take, it's not hyperbole,

866
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: just a fact they have to pick up his fifth

867
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: year option after this season. Well, if you don't make

868
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: the playoffs with this roster and your offense doesn't dominate,

869
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: what's the point in keeping him? I heard Collins say

870
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: the other day, what what? Why did they kick the

871
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: can down the road on Mr Bisky? Just just make

872
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: a decision. You have a good enough team to win

873
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: right now. You can't waste seasons. Then it's the NFL.

874
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: After watching the Broncos versus the Titans, what's a reasonable

875
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: expectation for this Broncos team? A lot of promising but

876
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: young talent on Oh, can this team compete for a

877
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 1: playoff spot? I definitely believe so. I would say eight

878
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: and eight, nine, and seven, they'd be right in that realm,

879
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 1: you know. They to me between them or the Raiders

880
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: probably the second best team after watching the Chargers, who

881
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: looked terrible. Uh, Chargers actually look worse after watching this

882
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: Thursday night game. I mean they could barely beat the Bengals.

883
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the Broncos. I mean they probably

884
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: won't be the Steelers this week that I took him

885
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 1: to cover. I I think competing for a wild card

886
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: spot is realistic. Remember last year they started like one

887
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: in seven and finished seven and nine. So I like Fangio,

888
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: I like Drew Lock. I like what they got going on.

889
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: I want to coach in the college in the NFL

890
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: one day. But I'm also interested in possibly of becoming

891
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: a scout. What should I do in college? Like, would

892
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: becoming a student assistant and grad assistant be a good

893
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: path to take for both? I think if you want

894
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 1: to be a scout, become a graduate assistant in UM

895
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: in the recruiting area. If you want to be a coach,

896
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: become a graduate assistant or a scouting or a coaching

897
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: assistant obviously on a college staff. Those are the best

898
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: best to pass to get to the NFL or move

899
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: up in high level college B A, g A. That

900
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: is the stepping stone for football. If you can't just

901
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: get your foot in the door in the NFL. That's

902
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: what I did. I know a lot of people that

903
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: have done that, and uh, obviously I can only speak

904
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: for experience, but it works, not much, pay a lot

905
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: of hard hours. But if that's what you want to do,

906
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: do it. I have a fantasy question for you. With

907
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas out with an injury for the next few weeks,

908
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: would it be crazy to offer a trade for him

909
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: right now? It seems like a bylow situation where he

910
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: can be stashed on the bench until healthy again. What

911
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: do you think a reasonable trade value would be given

912
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: the circumstances. I'll be honest, I only play daily fantasy.

913
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 1: I don't understand if you drafted Michael Thomas and he

914
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: sprains his ankle and he's out a couple of days,

915
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: he's clearly one of the most productive players in the league.

916
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you just keep Michael Thomas on your team? Like?

917
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: Why would someone offer to trade him to you? Like?

918
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: What would to me to get him off my team?

919
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: I'd be like Joe Mixon and George Kittle or something.

920
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: You know, I need a sweet haul back. Why would

921
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: I give away Michael Thomas's I never quite understand that

922
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: about fantasy is the trades for really good players like

923
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: that is where I'll be honest. I never played a

924
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: season long fantasy year in my life. Now I've been

925
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: playing draft kings for the last couple of years. I

926
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: love daily fantasy because I approach it like the NFL.

927
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: If I draft Sake one Barkley Week one and he

928
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: sucks and then I realized he's not be able to rush,

929
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: I don't pick him again. I don't like getting stuck

930
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: with a roster. Just like in the NFL, you can

931
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: cut guys when they suck. You know. That's why I

932
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: love getting out of college. Of the NFL, you weren't

933
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: stuck with players. Now. Clearly fantasy is a huge part

934
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: of the success of white people like football. But I

935
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 1: don't get why someone would trade Michael Thomas just because

936
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: he sprained his ankle. Why would they get rid of him.

937
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: It's not like he died. He's gonna come back in

938
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. He's clearly their best receiver. They

939
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: throw to him like seventy five times a game. I

940
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: just I can never figure out fantasy football always baffles me.

941
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: But clearly people have trade that stuff. Clearly Kyle doesn't

942
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: trust Jimmy and he misses throws or throws one of

943
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: those Jimmy picks. Jimmy has to realize this from Kyle.

944
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: How do you think this affects his confidence? Jimmy seems

945
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 1: to play nervous and hesitant. I think he's a baller

946
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: when he plays with confidence, but it seems to be

947
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: gone now. I feel like he should let I should

948
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: feel like Kyle should let Jimmy sling it. Any thoughts

949
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: on the coach clearly not trusting a player and how

950
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: they could affect him. We'll think of it like a human.

951
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: When have you ever been in a situation professionally where

952
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: your boss You don't think your boss or whoever you're

953
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: working with, trust you. You don't think they'll put enough

954
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: on your plate. You start questioning your own ability. It's

955
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 1: happened to all of us, right, You're like, does he

956
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: really is he? Why is he not giving me this project?

957
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: Why is he not doing that? It throws you off mentally. Now,

958
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: the difference is at football, you have teammates, so when

959
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: you start missing teammates and overthrowing him like they see

960
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: the film too. So then you start maybe wondering, do

961
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: people not trust me? It's a opplicated position. We're confidence

962
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: and listen. I'm a big believer confidence anything in life,

963
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: whether you're playing golf with your buddies, whether you're playing

964
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: pick up hoops, whether you're trying to sell whatever product

965
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: the company you work for, whether you're doing a podcast,

966
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: whether you're playing the NFL quarterback. When you have confidence

967
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: in what you're doing, it's easier to play fast, right.

968
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,240
Speaker 1: It's just you don't even think so clearly. You watch

969
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: like Burrow tonight, he's just playing. I don't feel like Burrows,

970
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: Like I'm kind of overwhelmed. Does does Zach Taylor believe

971
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: in me? To the Cincinnati Bengal fans think I'm good enough?

972
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes when you watch Jimmy, you're like, it starts with

973
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: a coach. Does he not believe in him? If he's

974
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: a human, which he is, how would that not affect him? Now?

975
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: I pushed back part of it. It's like, Jimmy, you're

976
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: just not getting the job done, and I don't know

977
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: the balance to strike, like I trust Kyle more and

978
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: I trust Jimmy. So it's just it's a tough situation.

979
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: Like when I watched the Eagles. I never feel like,

980
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, doesn't trust Carson right or even with Dak,

981
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: like I don't know if they trust Dak like they

982
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: do let him sling it now. Those guys fail, but

983
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: they let him fail. Part of it with Jimmy is

984
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: like this ran a draw on third and twenty. You know,

985
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: I was like, God, you're gonna let Jimmy throw it here?

986
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's I I think it does

987
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: rattle him a little bit for sure, But there are

988
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: times like when Jimmy proves it then Kyle lets him go.

989
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: Kyle just has a quick hook. He's like a baseball manager.

990
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: The moment he sees you like and he's just he

991
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: walked that guy in four pitches and now he's you know,

992
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: now he's two old of the next guy. It's like

993
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: about to yank this dude. I think Kyle gets like

994
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: that with Jimmy a couple of air and throws. Kyle

995
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: starts thinking like shit, I ain't running these plays for

996
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: him anymore. And in fairness to Kyle, like Jimmy does

997
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: some stuff where I don't blame him for thinking that

998
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: he's not exactly Bradier Breeze in their peak back there,

999
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: but he had moments like I think everyone's kind of

1000
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: shipping on him. The Saints game, the Rams game, the

1001
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: Seattle game. He was magnificent. They would not have been

1002
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: the number one seed without Jimmy Garoppolo bawling in huge

1003
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: games on prime time last year, National Game of the Week,

1004
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: the Saints game Saturday night against the Rams and Sunday

1005
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: night against Seattle. Jimmy Garoppolo bald. Now it's a long

1006
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: time ago, like he two three playoff games didn't do

1007
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: that much, and and Sunday last week. As a buddy

1008
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: in the league text me he was awful. I said, yes,

1009
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: he was, So he's just gotta play better. It's hard.

1010
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: Football is difficult. But as Don Draper said, this is

1011
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: why they pay you the big bucks. That's why you

1012
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: paid you the money. That is what the money is for.

1013
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: He's paid. He's been paid, you know, probably if we

1014
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: added it up over the last three years, eighty million dollars.

1015
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: So it's like, you just gotta get it done, and

1016
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: if you can't, you get cut. That's the cutthroat nature

1017
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: of football. It's kind of why we all like it,

1018
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: just because we're all on the edge of her seats. Like,

1019
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with Paul George Nothing, he'll be back.

1020
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: He makes like thirty million dollars. What's gonna happen with

1021
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook Nothing? He makes forty million dollars. They can't

1022
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: cut him. It's all guaranteed. What's gonna happen with all

1023
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: these baseball players Nothing, they're all under contract and football,

1024
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: like the moment you're dead cap started going to zero,

1025
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 1: it's like, well, could they cut him? The answer is hell, yes,

1026
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: you know why because just about every player gets cut

1027
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: unless they retire first. Okay, appreciate everyone listening. Alright, we

1028
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: did a little longer pod than I thought i'd do.

1029
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: Talk to y'all on Monday or no, excuse me, Tuesday. Tuesday.

1030
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: So I have a great weekend. Enjoy some football, enjoy

1031
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: some beers Saturday, Enjoy enjoy life, Smile and see you soon. Peace.

1032
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Speaker 1: The sad end s