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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast am on iHeartRadio. Well,

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Speaker 1: you've written a lot of books, and of course you

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Speaker 1: were with us three years ago as we talked about

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Speaker 1: the art of war. But tell me about this, how

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Speaker 1: to be a modern samurai and exactly let's go way

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Speaker 1: back into ancient times. Tell us about the samurai in Japan.

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Speaker 1: Right in the beginning, there was a Chinese system in Japan.

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Speaker 1: They used to use a Chinese standing army, and they

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Speaker 1: had their aristocrats, their emperors and princes in the center

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Speaker 1: at Kyoto. And bit by bit that culture started to

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Speaker 1: crumble and fall away, and in place of it, these private, smaller,

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Speaker 1: smaller armies started to rise up, and these were the samurai.

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Speaker 1: They originally served the empire, and then in the end

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Speaker 1: they took control and they still pretended to serve the empire,

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Speaker 1: but for their own means, and for about a thousand

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Speaker 1: years they ruled Japan. They were honored with two swords,

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Speaker 1: weren't they now that is actually it is correct, but

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Speaker 1: half truth. Before the fifteen nineties, nearly anybody could wear

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Speaker 1: two swords. The symbol of the samurai was actually a

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Speaker 1: spear or a boat, and even farmers wore two swords.

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Speaker 1: It was more of a boys coming of age got

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Speaker 1: two swords. But what happened was is that one of

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Speaker 1: the warlords took control of all Japan and stopped everyone

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Speaker 1: but the samurai wearing them. That when it became a

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Speaker 1: symbol of the samurai. It's actually after the major period

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Speaker 1: of Samurai warfare. They were very disciplined people, though, weren't

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Speaker 1: they Yes, they were. But one of the myths that

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to get rid of is this idea that

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Speaker 1: they're very stoic. That does exist, and they were like that,

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Speaker 1: but also the historical record tells us that they were

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Speaker 1: sometimes flew into rages. They were vengeful, they were jealous,

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Speaker 1: they had tears in their eyes. They were very human people,

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Speaker 1: but their ideal was to get towards a very stoic

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Speaker 1: zen like existence. Who did they serve Anthony? Did they

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Speaker 1: serve the emperor? Well, that's the thing they technically did.

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Speaker 1: They're meant to. But what actually happened is that they

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Speaker 1: said their service was for the emperor, but they argued

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Speaker 1: about which was the best way to do this. So

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Speaker 1: realistically they were fighting for their own power, but they

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Speaker 1: used the idea of serving the emperor as the cover

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Speaker 1: for getting power. What got you to write this book?

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Speaker 1: Of course? Well it was actually I put together this

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Speaker 1: team about thirteen years ago and we've been translating these

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Speaker 1: ancient documents because you know, my Japanese was just not

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Speaker 1: good enough. I got together a team to be able

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Speaker 1: to read this really ancient stuff. And I've found that

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Speaker 1: most people it would take a long time to delve

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Speaker 1: into it or break it up. So I spoke to

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Speaker 1: my publishers and they said, well, you need to break

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Speaker 1: this down for people and make it applicable for today.

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Speaker 1: So I said, okay, let's try this one. So that's

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Speaker 1: what I refined everything and put it into this book.

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Speaker 1: How did you tie in the Samurai were trying to

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Speaker 1: teach us success. It's because the Samurai, even though they're

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Speaker 1: were genuinely successful for a long time. So it came

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Speaker 1: about that if they can do it, and it's in

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Speaker 1: the same human world we live in, why can't weed

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Speaker 1: or at least take the essence of that. Interesting take

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Speaker 1: on that in generally what were their age brackets? Right?

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Speaker 1: The age brackets is about the age of fourteen. So

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Speaker 1: one interesting fact is the Japanese don't actually count from zero.

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Speaker 1: fifteen years old back to that probably means they were

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Speaker 1: fourteen years old. Oh my god, there's no first year,

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Speaker 1: so a lot you've got other times. You've got to

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Speaker 1: think about that. So technically, somebody who's born in November

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Speaker 1: then the next New Years they turned to three. But

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Speaker 1: They're absolutely gone. So the Samurai actually dissolved themselves. They

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Speaker 1: by the early twentieth century, the Samurai had all gone

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Speaker 1: or however some families still know they are from Samurai lineages.

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Speaker 1: Were they kind of like the Knights templar? No, there

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Speaker 1: So the here is that the Japanese family are the

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Speaker 1: Samurai ever turn on their emperors? Actually yes. One of

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Speaker 1: the things that is misunderstood a lot is that it

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Speaker 1: was really a wife for power. Now, what you can't

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Speaker 1: That's the special thing about Japan because it's about a

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Speaker 1: bloodline back to the ancient gods. So you can't get

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Speaker 1: rid of them. But the Samurai could marry their daughters

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Speaker 1: struggling for power around this one family. The subtitle of

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Speaker 1: Your Bocado would be a modern Samurai Ten steps to

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Speaker 1: finding your power and achieving success. Let's go through these

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Speaker 1: ten steps one at a time. Let's start with number one.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, control your mind. Sorry, it's control your mind right, yep.

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Speaker 1: So the first step is control your mind. And one

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Speaker 1: of the major things we have is that most people's

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Speaker 1: minds are not ordered, they're all over the place. So

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Speaker 1: your first thing you've got to do do is build your

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Speaker 1: get too attached to things. Is that part of that.

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Speaker 1: So basically, nowadays there's a bit of a divide between

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Speaker 1: the eighteen hundred people were especially Western people were much

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Speaker 1: more stricting their emotions. But now we talk about putting

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Speaker 1: It's not easy, though not to show your emotions, is it. Well,

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Speaker 1: getting emotional to certain things. And of course this leads

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Speaker 1: when something hits a nerve that I've not ironed out internally.

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Speaker 1: The second step lead a Samurai lifestyle. What exactly is

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Speaker 1: is about organization, and actually it's about common sense. So

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Speaker 1: Way is to have say, ten thousand pieces of common

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Speaker 1: the correct action, the correct response, and then you can

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Speaker 1: good responses to different stimuli. Number three, engage strategically with

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Speaker 1: the world. What's that mean? So once you've sort of

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Speaker 1: in the future. Interesting tech, And it's a tactical approach

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Speaker 1: not someone who's famous. It's someone who averted doing something

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Speaker 1: The fourth step you talk about build a fortress. Explain that.

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Speaker 1: So this is quite symbolic, I suppose, But it's about

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Speaker 1: your house now, and it's about your personal space and environment.

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Speaker 1: number five follow away. Yes, so everybody thinks that basically

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