Speaker 1: Welcome back to those amigos. This is Wilmer valderramad Rodriguez
Speaker 1: and and you know, I feel like we've been talking
Speaker 1: about so much insightful stuff that we should go back
Speaker 1: to like what fills in the thirteen hours of the
Speaker 1: flight to London.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 3: So this episode we thought, hey, man, let's just you know,
Speaker 3: let's create aesthetics.
Speaker 1: So right now we were in the shoes and we
Speaker 1: just noticed that our shoes are by the same company,
Speaker 1: you know, and they're Nike, you know, but their colors
Speaker 1: gold gray and black, gold gray and black.
Speaker 3: You got Jordan's, I got, I think these are Pegasus,
Speaker 3: you know. We were in shink. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is the style episode we're gonna
Speaker 1: just titled rest today. And he brought us back to
Speaker 1: those days when we used to be invited to Marina
Speaker 1: Lray to the Nike warehouse.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Tracy, Tracy Gray.
Speaker 1: Tracy Gray so much. I hope you're listening to this.
Speaker 1: I wish you would have given ATHLETs for free. They're
Speaker 1: pretty expensive nowadays.
Speaker 3: But are you?
Speaker 1: But but yeah, definitely definitely shout out to her because
Speaker 1: she was making all of our young young men's uh
Speaker 1: ow dreams come true. You go in there and then
Speaker 1: menim Mini moo. She was so generous. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like really kind of amazing.
Speaker 3: It was this wonderful facility.
Speaker 2: Obviously, right, Nike has to advertise, right, whether it's commercials
Speaker 2: or wherever it is, and it was at a point
Speaker 2: where they would equip celebrities I guess, right, with some
Speaker 2: Nike gear and we would wear it and that would
Speaker 2: be a form.
Speaker 3: Of advertisement, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you were telling this awesome story about DJ
Speaker 2: a m oh yeah and taking him there and how
Speaker 2: he was the first DJ they embraced that commercial level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Adam was in my definition, one of the best
Speaker 1: DJs of our entire generation. The mark he left behind,
Speaker 1: the amount of incredible DJs he mentored, uh, the incredible
Speaker 1: amount of artists that he inspired, The idea that he
Speaker 1: could mash up Sweet Home Alabama and Biggie Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, it was like just on trial, like no
Speaker 3: one was doing that. No one was doing that, you know.
Speaker 1: It was kind of it was also thrown it back
Speaker 1: to the days of like you know, roun DNC and
Speaker 1: and Aerospan, right, but this guy was doing it with radio.
Speaker 3: And like underground hits.
Speaker 1: You know, and he would play oases at the end
Speaker 1: of the night, you know, after a big hip hop scene.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like and so he he just was
Speaker 1: such a pioneer, not just for music but for style.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy were a different Air Force one
Speaker 1: every single night, every single night, everythingle night.
Speaker 3: He never repeated Air Force one. That's how fast his
Speaker 3: collection was. He had a huge collection.
Speaker 1: And so one day I rolled in with some you know,
Speaker 1: limited air Force ones to the to the club, you know,
Speaker 1: with him, and then I rolled up.
Speaker 3: He's like, Yo, Wilmer, would you get those? I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know, dude.
Speaker 1: I think I got him in a box from Nike
Speaker 1: and he goes, WHOA, You're getting free Nikes? And I
Speaker 1: was again at the time, everyone who's listening there was
Speaker 1: these programs had all these companies. This was their way
Speaker 1: of seeding their product through pop culture, right. They would
Speaker 1: they would go to actors and musicians and athletes, and
Speaker 1: they would just give him stuff to wear in the
Speaker 1: street because they knew that when they would go out there,
Speaker 1: people would look at them and they most likely will
Speaker 1: look down to their shoes or the jacket they were wearing,
Speaker 1: and like and by the way it was, it was
Speaker 1: a very very effective, you know, kind of a marketing strategy,
Speaker 1: right because because you you were just giving free product
Speaker 1: to an artist and get him free advertising, you didn't
Speaker 1: have to pay them an endorsement deal. You didn't have
Speaker 1: to pay them a commercial deal. You literally put free
Speaker 1: stuff on them. And if somebody saw it and they're like,
Speaker 1: I like the shoes that Freddie's wearing, they go to
Speaker 1: Nike and be like you, I just saw this great
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So he was converting into actual profit
Speaker 1: for a lot of these companies.
Speaker 3: Anyways, he started like.
Speaker 1: You getting free stuff and I was like yeah, he goes, man, man,
Speaker 1: it's like my dream to go to the Nike warehouse.
Speaker 3: So he knew about it already. He knew about the
Speaker 3: the Ray. It was like infamous. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like I heard they have a basketball courts in there,
Speaker 1: you know, and I really had the first Nike shoes
Speaker 1: in there, like you know. So he was he was
Speaker 1: really into it and really knew everything about it. And
Speaker 1: I was like, you've never been to it. He's like,
Speaker 1: and dude, he at this point he's like with the
Speaker 1: biggest DJ, right, like you know, Jennet Jackson in the
Speaker 1: in the DJ booth with him like blame in my
Speaker 1: latest single, you.
Speaker 2: Know, like.
Speaker 4: Calvin Harris before Calvin Harris.
Speaker 1: Absolute and you know, and I will say he was
Speaker 1: moments away from having all his stuff play on the radio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was gonna be the first one, you know. I know,
Speaker 1: his original tracks is incredible, you know. Anyways, going back
Speaker 1: to the Nike story, so so he he's like.
Speaker 3: Wait, you go to the warehouse. You're kidding me. You
Speaker 3: get free stuff? And I was like, yeah, dude, I
Speaker 3: get free stuff. I'm look at these, you know. He's like,
Speaker 3: oh man, those are those are crazy? Right? Oh man?
Speaker 3: I one day I can go there. And I was like, bro,
Speaker 3: like what are you doing tomorrow.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, dog dog oh me, that'd be crazy.
Speaker 3: He always coming homie home. I'd be crazy.
Speaker 1: I was like, we'll be crazy because you're gonna take
Speaker 1: me to the to the warehouse. And I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm not I've been to the warehouse at this
Speaker 1: point like nineteen times.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, yes, it's like we're going. We just
Speaker 3: show up. We don't even tell him anymore, you know.
Speaker 3: And and he was like.
Speaker 1: You sure, man, like you sure it's not cool with you?
Speaker 1: Like I mean may it would be a dream of true.
Speaker 1: And I was like, bro, let's go. So I went
Speaker 1: and picked him up. He wore he's cleaning are first.
Speaker 1: Once we rolled up to the warehouse, Marinada Ray Tracy
Speaker 1: Gray you know very well, you know, greeted us outside
Speaker 1: and she's like, hey. I was like, remember I was
Speaker 1: telling you my friends the DJ, I said, you know,
Speaker 1: you always have artists here, you always have actors and
Speaker 1: musicians and athletes, but the DJs are the ones who
Speaker 1: really transcend in the streets. I mean, these guys really
Speaker 1: were the fly stuff, you know when when they're performing.
Speaker 1: She's like, no, no, welcome, I'm excited. Look a friend
Speaker 1: of Wilmer is a friend of mine. And I was like,
Speaker 1: let's go. We get inside and dude, it was like
Speaker 1: it takes you to that special room. Yes, in special room,
Speaker 1: and then the thing opens and you're like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: It was literally like a seven year old go into
Speaker 1: Disneyland for the first time.
Speaker 3: Wow. It was that type of thing that you were
Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, this is larger.
Speaker 1: And like all different rooms were themed. You remember what
Speaker 1: you remember some of the things.
Speaker 4: The golf room, there was the Jordan room.
Speaker 3: There was sort of like.
Speaker 2: It was almost like walking into like a Nike store,
Speaker 2: but they would walk you in and go take.
Speaker 1: One, yes, And I said, what do you mean pick one?
Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, what size are you? I go ten
Speaker 1: and a half. And then they're like, try is on.
Speaker 1: They fit really good. They fit really good, thank you,
Speaker 1: And I take them off and give them right back
Speaker 1: and they're like, no, these are yours.
Speaker 3: I said, I'm I'm sorry. You mean like you can
Speaker 3: take this home. I mean, it was like just bizarre.
Speaker 3: You were like, what are you kidding me? You're giving
Speaker 3: me free shoes, right, I mean like it was just
Speaker 3: so cool.
Speaker 1: And she was so nice, and you know, he came
Speaker 1: in he told her the story of his shoes and
Speaker 1: he told her, you know, he started looking at all
Speaker 1: the stuff on the walls and all the limited edition and.
Speaker 3: He was like he knew more story about that stuff
Speaker 3: than anyone else. Wow. And he just was in encyclopedia of.
Speaker 1: Nike and trand in different eras in different decades and
Speaker 1: the things that were released, and Tracy was so impressed
Speaker 1: by that. Wow, Adam like that's there's a lot of
Speaker 1: knowledge there, you know, and she's like, hey, so what
Speaker 1: size are you? And his eyes he looked. He goes, no, right, don't.
Speaker 1: I was just here visiting with Wilmer like I was.
Speaker 1: He didn't think he was gonna get a pair of shoes.
Speaker 1: He just thought he was going to see the warehouse.
Speaker 1: And then she gives him forget what was serious. It
Speaker 1: was seriously, she gave him some beautiful air Force ones
Speaker 1: and she was still taken.
Speaker 3: Back how grateful he was, and he loved the brand.
Speaker 3: He goes, you know, artists come in there, they're just like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: take the free stuff. But did this dude meant everything?
Speaker 3: You know? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And you know, so I gave Trasey his number and
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and then like we we went back
Speaker 1: to our normal lives, you know. And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's like, yo, dude, I just want to say, man,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm going to the warehouse by myself.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, cool, cool, cool, And then he
Speaker 1: called me again like whatever, Like two months later, he goes, dude,
Speaker 1: you won't believe this. Man, I'm gonna design. I'm going
Speaker 1: to design the dj AM air Force. Once wow, I
Speaker 1: said what he goes, Yeah, man, it's crazy. Thank you man,
Speaker 1: thank you. I was like, no, dude, you deserve it,
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then like a year after that, Tracy called him
Speaker 1: and said, hey, we would love for you to be in.
Speaker 3: The Kobe Bryant commercial for Nike. Wow. So, all of a.
Speaker 1: Sudden, AM is the first DJ and the history of
Speaker 1: DJs to be to be in a national Nike commercial
Speaker 1: with Kobe Bryant, who's a multi champion at the time.
Speaker 1: And and it was just like just magic, you know.
Speaker 1: It was a perfect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how did that even happen? Just because she
Speaker 2: recognized his knowledge of Air Force one And.
Speaker 1: At this point she talked well, because I'm sure she
Speaker 1: she told me after it and I realized that, and
Speaker 1: she started asking around, who's this guy in the DJ
Speaker 1: AM And then I told her everything about him. But
Speaker 1: then when she started hearing it from everybody else and
Speaker 1: her staff and the team and people knew exactly what
Speaker 1: he was, she realized, oh, this is a very interesting unique.
Speaker 3: He wasn't even underground anymore. He was pretty man.
Speaker 1: He he was just a massive moment, you know. And
Speaker 1: and she then recognized that and realized, this is a
Speaker 1: very unique way to go with Nike.
Speaker 3: It's never it's a destination we've never gone, and it
Speaker 3: makes the most sense.
Speaker 1: The music, the lifestyle, you know, it all made a
Speaker 1: lot of sense for the brand, and they started expanding
Speaker 1: into that direction.
Speaker 3: That's so cool that.
Speaker 2: She had the foresight, right because now, right as I
Speaker 2: was saying, and the Diplos and the Calvin Harris's of
Speaker 2: the world, who all have residencies now and a tso
Speaker 2: all those guys, right, but she kind of recognized the
Speaker 2: potential of that way before it was mainstream or popular.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: So I mean, look, Steve Oki, shout out to my
Speaker 1: brother stevee Okay, you know, you know he he was,
Speaker 1: he was the part of that generation and am you know,
Speaker 1: mentor him and a lot of incredible things. And then
Speaker 1: they partner up and things together. They had their own
Speaker 1: club together and everything. Oh yeah, and then just and
Speaker 1: then Aoki just became you know, his own yeah, iconic brand,
Speaker 1: and he just swored you know, and the.
Speaker 2: Cakes and yeah, the sort of incorporating this kind of
Speaker 2: theater aspect to DJ.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And you know, so the more I remember, the more
Speaker 1: I tell the story, the more it just makes me
Speaker 1: sad because of the potential he had, you know, and
Speaker 1: you know, just to catch everybody up, I'm talking about
Speaker 1: you know Adam, you know Djam, who was one of
Speaker 1: the biggest DJs of our generation, of the two thousands,
Speaker 1: you know, and yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know, he's no longer with us.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately he lost his battle, and it was just really,
Speaker 1: you know, really really sad because he right now would
Speaker 1: have built something very special. I mean, he would have
Speaker 1: been probably the biggest music producer. You know, he probably
Speaker 1: would have made so much, so much music that would
Speaker 1: have redefined so much of what we do. I got
Speaker 1: a lot of music today that's made it's popular in radio,
Speaker 1: and he plays, you know, but what he was doing,
Speaker 1: he was he was doing timeless music that really could
Speaker 1: could you know, could last?
Speaker 3: Wow? Yeah, pretty pretty pretty gradible.
Speaker 2: But I have a music story too, if I may shoot.
Speaker 2: Of course, I've never told the story. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say it right now. When I was shooting dead presidents,
Speaker 2: we got an invitation to a birthday party, and uh,
Speaker 2: the whole house was invited to this big birthday party
Speaker 2: that was going to have a bunch of music people
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 4: And uh, and I'm I'm nineteen years old.
Speaker 2: I'm right out of high school. You know, I'm a
Speaker 2: big hip hop head. I'm in I'm in New York
Speaker 2: in ninety.
Speaker 3: Four, sort of the apex of like that.
Speaker 4: Early nineties hip hop movement. And uh, I get invited
Speaker 4: to this birthday party.
Speaker 2: And as soon as I walk in, I see Dougie Fresh,
Speaker 2: I see Jay Rue the damager I see Grand Pooba
Speaker 2: from Brand Nubian's, all of these people that just the
Speaker 2: year before I was in high school listening to like
Speaker 2: their CDs, you know.
Speaker 3: And right before I did that movie, I was.
Speaker 2: Doing a movie called A Walk in the Clouds and
Speaker 2: it was produced one of the producers on it was
Speaker 2: this old school guy named Jim Brubaker. And you would
Speaker 2: have known Jim. He did like a lot of like
Speaker 2: the Stallone movies in the seventies and eighties, and eventually
Speaker 2: he went on to run physical production over at Universal
Speaker 2: and oversaw movies.
Speaker 4: Like Liar Liar and all those early Jim Carrey movies.
Speaker 4: But Jim was a.
Speaker 2: Teamster, old school gruff teamster who became a producer, right
Speaker 2: so he had that sensibility about him. And while I
Speaker 2: was doing A Walk in the Clouds. I auditioned for
Speaker 2: Dead Presidents and I got it, and I came back
Speaker 2: to set and he.
Speaker 3: Goes, hey, I heard I heard you.
Speaker 2: You got this movie. Dead President's a you're you gonna
Speaker 2: go do it? He was like, hey, is Tupac in
Speaker 2: that movie? And I was like, I have no idea, right,
Speaker 2: He just assumed because it was like an urban movie.
Speaker 2: And he goes, well, if Tupaca is in that movie,
Speaker 2: or you ever meet Tupac, you.
Speaker 4: Tell him you know me, Jim brew Baker.
Speaker 2: He goes, because I produced Above the Rim and I
Speaker 2: was with Tupac at each and every one of his
Speaker 2: court cases when we were doing that movie. And so
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, Jim brew Baker, Tupac.
Speaker 4: Tell him, I know you got it right.
Speaker 2: I was like a nineteen year old kid, and this
Speaker 2: story is a oh yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: So so cut to I'm doing The Presidents.
Speaker 3: I go to this party.
Speaker 2: I see all of these musical artists that I've admired forever.
Speaker 4: All of a sudden, I see.
Speaker 2: Tupac right, no W And in my brain, Jim brew Baker,
Speaker 2: Tupac go say hi, right, I'm approaching Tupac, And all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, this big guy just kind of gets
Speaker 2: in front of me right and starts talking to Tupac,
Speaker 2: and I look up and it's Biggie Smalls what and
Speaker 2: so like yeah, So I didn't understand like the significance
Speaker 2: of the moment that I was witnessing, you know. And
Speaker 2: I was just there like watching Biggie and Tupac hug
Speaker 2: each other and give each other so much.
Speaker 3: Love and respect.
Speaker 2: And then and of course I'm sitting there like a
Speaker 2: kid right waiting for that interaction to stop so I
Speaker 2: can go tell him. And then another person comes into
Speaker 2: their circle, another person, other person, and then I missed my.
Speaker 4: Opportunity, right.
Speaker 2: So about a week later, I'm at this club called
Speaker 2: the Palladium in New York, and I'm passing by the
Speaker 2: VIP section and long and behold, I see Tupac in
Speaker 2: the VIP section and I can tell he looks over
Speaker 2: to me, and I go like this, and I'm waving
Speaker 2: him over right, like no.
Speaker 4: Sense, no sense of etiquette or anything. And he's looking
Speaker 4: at me like, who the hell is this guy waving
Speaker 4: me over?
Speaker 2: Right? And see he comes over with all this bravado
Speaker 2: and he's like, yo, what's up? Man? And I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: I introduced myself and I'm like, I'm here doing this movie.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Jim Brubaker wanted to meet it.
Speaker 2: And as soon as I said Jim's name is like
Speaker 2: all that bravado win went all out the window and
Speaker 2: he was like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: Told Jim I said hello and.
Speaker 3: That I met you. Like yeah, man.
Speaker 4: It was like it was like mob like respect right there.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: So about a.
Speaker 2: Week after that, I go to work and and like
Speaker 2: everybody's faces was long.
Speaker 4: You know, I can tell that there was a sadness
Speaker 4: on set and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, hey, what happened.
Speaker 2: They're like, man, you know, Tupac just got shot in
Speaker 2: this studio. And I was like, what do you mean
Speaker 2: he just got shot. I just just talked to that
Speaker 2: guy like a week ago.
Speaker 4: He goes, no, man, he got shot, you know. And
Speaker 4: as the story unfolded, you know, everyone thought that Biggie
Speaker 4: shot him in that studio and they were saying that
Speaker 4: on set and I was like, whoa hold on a second,
Speaker 4: how could that be? Man? I just saw them hugging
Speaker 4: like right in front of.
Speaker 3: Me, you know.
Speaker 2: And then and then the movie ended, and you know,
Speaker 2: I went back home and then.
Speaker 3: All of that East Coast.
Speaker 1: West started, you know as a big that war was
Speaker 1: the most unfortunate Yeah moment for history. Uh and in
Speaker 1: the hip hop history, I should say, yeah.
Speaker 2: And then and then and then Tupac died, and then
Speaker 2: Biggie died, and so like you know, yeah, we were
Speaker 2: just like me seeing it unfold and seeing those two
Speaker 2: guys die, and it brings a certain level of sadness
Speaker 2: to me because every time I would see that, or
Speaker 2: because all I can think of was like being in
Speaker 2: front of these two guys and like watching them hug
Speaker 2: and give each other sans.
Speaker 3: Did you ever spit some bars for Tupac? Because you know.
Speaker 1: Thats goming right, you know, you know that episode is
Speaker 1: coming right where you're gonna have to or we're gonna
Speaker 1: have to play some of No one wants to hear that.
Speaker 3: Everyone.
Speaker 1: In fact, we're changing the those Amigo soundtrack to one
Speaker 1: of their old tracks.
Speaker 3: Speaking of fashion. But by the way, what a beautiful
Speaker 3: sidetrack to tell those graces. Oh yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 4: Started talking about music, So I hope that was all right?
Speaker 3: What's your what's your cologne? What's it? What's your uh?
Speaker 3: And man, what's what's your cologne? Man?
Speaker 4: Man, I rocked some DRAKR in the water.
Speaker 1: Hey, don't take my don't take.
Speaker 3: I remember everyone your car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I was at your car for like heavy
Speaker 1: thirty five years of my life.
Speaker 3: Heavy, I mean heavy, heavy, heavy.
Speaker 1: And you know they say, oh, your car smells a
Speaker 1: little different than anybody on everybody.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It smelled pretty similar to the to my favorite ups guy.
Speaker 4: You know, like, why was your your cologne?
Speaker 2: My dad?
Speaker 1: Ah, your pop My dad was like he used to
Speaker 1: put it over like his gold chain.
Speaker 4: So then his gold chain smelled like it's start.
Speaker 1: With one spray on each side of the neck, on
Speaker 1: each shoulder, yeah, on each chest, you know, stomach, stomach pants.
Speaker 3: Wow, it was it was assistant. Oh yeah, he had
Speaker 3: a sister. Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was almost like you were putting a bug repelling,
Speaker 1: you know, like like like it was like you were
Speaker 1: just spraying bug off, you know, just covering everything.
Speaker 3: You know. So he passed. It was like he passed
Speaker 3: down the bottom.
Speaker 1: And even right now, like even right now, my my
Speaker 1: my daughter will go hang out with my dad and
Speaker 1: she would come back smelling like your car. Like Jesus, Dad,
Speaker 1: it's a little less when you hang out with my daughter, please,
Speaker 1: But yes, I used to do your car for a
Speaker 1: very long time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, back then, I used to do Eternity cologne.
Speaker 3: Did you ever.
Speaker 4: Eternity was my joint?
Speaker 3: Did you ever do c K one? I didn't know,
Speaker 3: because because you you were a recentable human being. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Why because one came in and I was like, that
Speaker 1: was what all the kids were wearing. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: gotta do c K one because he's Eire that in
Speaker 1: Abacambria and Fish. I never did it my coming Fish
Speaker 1: and I crossed over to that place. Yeah, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: K one was another one.
Speaker 3: That people were really into.
Speaker 2: My my my brothers were really into cologne. I mean
Speaker 2: they they did like Pierre Cardan.
Speaker 4: Obsession, remember obsession.
Speaker 3: A lot of my friends cool water, cool water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, Snoop mentioned that in the song yeah Aramis Cologne.
Speaker 3: Do you remember Aramis?
Speaker 2: I mean these are like hardcore like eighties Colone. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, yes, but my brother's really heavy into it.
Speaker 2: But no, man, it was like it was I was.
Speaker 2: I was Eternity for a while.
Speaker 1: Well, c K one, Cavin Klein had that c K one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then Tommy Hill figure had had a thing that
Speaker 1: everybody is everybody that were the Tommy Hill figure that
Speaker 1: would spray, They tell me her figure cologne two?
Speaker 3: What about Uh let me see, oh hair product? What
Speaker 3: what did you put in your hair? Hair product?
Speaker 1: If you're gonna ask me if I did test float is,
Speaker 1: the answer is that.
Speaker 3: You finished this. Hey, we're all talking about my hair trauma?
Speaker 4: What is?
Speaker 3: What is that float is? Today's float is is? Today's
Speaker 3: float is?
Speaker 1: Is like this kind of oil wax thing you know
Speaker 1: that you like put in your hair.
Speaker 3: It's like a pummy, but it's more like grease.
Speaker 1: It's like a VAPORU Like yeah, like look, that's that's
Speaker 1: what it is, is right there?
Speaker 4: Oh no, I've never seen that before.
Speaker 3: What is it like?
Speaker 1: It's like like it's straight up mon take hard, straight
Speaker 1: up month And what was nuts about it? It's like,
Speaker 1: as you know, the summers are are very top for
Speaker 1: l A and I would put that in my hair
Speaker 1: and just trying to slick it back, you know, just
Speaker 1: put that shine thing. And I had like the little
Speaker 1: the little combs that will cover your hand, you know,
Speaker 1: around it, and then you just do this and.
Speaker 3: Come you know, noon gets really hot. Oh start ripping, starts.
Speaker 1: Melting through your forehead, you know, and the forest starts
Speaker 1: breaking out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, test flood was I I learned that from my homemies.
Speaker 3: From you. Yeah, my homies did thress floating is all
Speaker 3: the time. Man.
Speaker 4: It must have been like an l a thing. I
Speaker 4: don't I don't remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it was hard in Chicago. Uh Aquinet hairspray.
Speaker 2: Did you guys do Aquinet here?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something I remember, Like we used to
Speaker 2: have to take the bus, and you know, Chicago is
Speaker 2: crazy cold.
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you're taking.
Speaker 3: The bus it's like below zero.
Speaker 4: And the girls I remember the girls, like.
Speaker 2: Their hair would be wet and they put Aquinet hairspray
Speaker 2: and they get out in the cold and it would
Speaker 2: freeze the Aquinet hairspray on their hair.
Speaker 4: See you would just see the white from the hairspray
Speaker 4: on your hair. I kid, you know, man, they'd be
Speaker 4: there like.
Speaker 2: In the bathroom it's big like smokel Did you ever
Speaker 2: do moose? No? I was more of just sort of
Speaker 2: like a like a hairspray dude, you know, like you
Speaker 2: know I had a mullet, you know.
Speaker 3: Hairspray, hair spray. Yeah, a mullet. No, I never had
Speaker 3: a mullet. I had a bowl cut.
Speaker 5: I used to rock a mullet hard, hard, I mean
Speaker 5: even I even had like lines on the side. You
Speaker 5: were way cooler like me, dog, mullet like you know, dog,
Speaker 5: you were drying here in the front way cooler than me.
Speaker 4: Bro. You never you never had a mullet. You were
Speaker 4: a busboy and you never had a mullet. Come on, I.
Speaker 3: Was a buzzboy in the valley.
Speaker 4: Bro, you didn't have a mood Latino.
Speaker 3: No, I did not. I did not. I did not party.
Speaker 3: What is it? No, man, I had my dad.
Speaker 1: It was making sure that my my super cut haircut
Speaker 1: was was conservative enough to stay out of trouble.
Speaker 4: And your car mullets went together. Many did.
Speaker 1: It was like that and Ups trucks, you know, Ups.
Speaker 4: Did your pop rock and mullet.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: He was the guy that was like.
Speaker 1: Blow drying every morning, right, blow drying, blow dry, and
Speaker 1: blow dr blow dry, blow dry, blow d and then
Speaker 1: locked in. Well he would blow dry and it would
Speaker 1: just stay the way you know he wanted.
Speaker 3: It was he awkward at hairspray.
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, but but I, uh, what did I
Speaker 1: do my hair is like I have the mixture of
Speaker 1: my dad in my mom's hair. It's very thick and
Speaker 1: it's a lot of it. So I have to put
Speaker 1: so much product in my hair. So like there's tons
Speaker 1: of pictures from my twenties where I just have.
Speaker 3: Literally glue, like just glue put it and just slick
Speaker 3: it all the way back.
Speaker 2: And it was like, you know, I remember I remember going,
Speaker 2: I remember being out on you and I got an
Speaker 2: award one time, and I remember you had your hair
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 3: I'm not thinking like.
Speaker 4: Oh man, that looks cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah it looked like, uh, you look very look back
Speaker 1: at my field, so like you no, no, you look
Speaker 1: very regal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look at thanks you had.
Speaker 4: A regal and then you had to shut on.
Speaker 1: And I always got I always kind of identify the
Speaker 1: slick hairbag look with like with like, I mean I'm elegant.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I just like and I had a macy suit,
Speaker 1: you know, I go to Sears and Macy's to get
Speaker 1: my suits at the first couple of years of my
Speaker 1: career because I didn't have it was in pain like that,
Speaker 1: you know. So so I was just like my hair
Speaker 1: back and be like I am elegant now quite dapper, yeah,
Speaker 1: quite dap.
Speaker 3: Where did you get your socks? Sucks?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you why? Let me tell you why.
Speaker 1: I tell you why because we used to order the
Speaker 1: store and like buy the packs.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah at Costco?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like like Hanes yeah, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was like it was because did you ever
Speaker 1: get did you ever get closes at Costco?
Speaker 3: Yeah? The socks? Yeah, for sure? For sure, socks and
Speaker 3: underwear from Costco?
Speaker 2: Oh man, Yeah, I mean to this day, like my kids,
Speaker 2: that's like Christmas present for them.
Speaker 1: Even there, my mom still puts that in the bag
Speaker 1: under that Christmas.
Speaker 3: Come on, you could always use new underwear. My dad
Speaker 3: gives me colognes every year or too.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 4: So your car was does he still give you your car?
Speaker 3: Doesn't give me a dru card anymore? You know, he
Speaker 3: just wants to switch it up? So what is okay?
Speaker 3: What does he give you?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What is?
Speaker 3: What does he deem as?
Speaker 1: Like like he goes and gets like a Chanelle one
Speaker 1: and I'm like that, like that's too expensive, Like I'm
Speaker 1: never gonna wear cologne, you know. Yeah, I'm like nsis
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, where do you get a suit.
Speaker 1: If you're like I'm to get a suit, where do
Speaker 1: you get it from?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 2: I find that like John Varvados fits me well. Uh,
Speaker 2: I think that brand fits me well across the board,
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's like a leather jacket.
Speaker 3: Or a very great cuts. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so I've been I've been sticking to them.
Speaker 3: What else did I get?
Speaker 2: I got a yeah? No, I mean I think done primarily.
Speaker 2: Uh the show the show I just did h on
Speaker 2: CBS Bowl. All of my suits were all John Barbados.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you look great, you look very well. Thank you,
Speaker 3: very apportunity. I feel like they used Moose in your
Speaker 3: hair and that show, No, no what they where they use?
Speaker 4: Michael was my was my hair guy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he did use Moose. He used to
Speaker 2: blow dry it and he had a very specific system
Speaker 2: in place for it and he was he was awesome,
Speaker 2: had a great, great makeup and hair team.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting to think about, you know how much
Speaker 1: her fashion has changed?
Speaker 3: Yeah, every decade's the thing?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And for me I wear the same thing every.
Speaker 3: Like what like? What?
Speaker 1: So what would be a good suit for you? What's
Speaker 1: your what's your goal to for suits? I I think
Speaker 1: Paul Smith.
Speaker 3: It's a good one. Fish me really well. I don't
Speaker 3: have to alter a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 4: I love how he does all the different colors inside.
Speaker 3: But I like, like, you know, you do the socks too,
Speaker 3: do you do? You do you rock? His socks are cool?
Speaker 3: But you know, I hate to but let's keep it real.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it very real.
Speaker 1: The Postman socks don't hold well, what do you mean,
Speaker 1: like like you bring it up over here and they
Speaker 1: don't have that rick?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't. They don't have a crip. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like a way.
Speaker 1: It's almost like the fabric is so than it's so
Speaker 1: like right, you know, delicate. It's just doesn't I love
Speaker 1: the prints right of the socks. They're really different, but
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just like falls apart. Yeah that's
Speaker 1: a good that's a good brand.
Speaker 3: But I do like I do like I'm a big
Speaker 3: double L guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is the three piece joint that you had
Speaker 2: on the previous episode?
Speaker 3: It was pretty freaking cool. Yeah, So I do I
Speaker 3: do I do that? Is it more casual or is
Speaker 3: it it's like in between? Right, it's in between.
Speaker 1: It's it could be formal enough if you want to
Speaker 1: go to an evening thing, but like also formal and
Speaker 1: casual enough that you can wear it all day to
Speaker 1: like you know, like meetings here and there a stuff.
Speaker 3: So that's I really like that stuff. Where do you
Speaker 3: get that?
Speaker 1: I mean because you go to they have their own
Speaker 1: store right like that, Like you can do it online too,
Speaker 1: but I go to the store on Melrows. They have
Speaker 1: a really cool and those guys are awesome. They really
Speaker 1: hope me out when I get there. Yeah, and but yeah,
Speaker 1: I like Double Rrel because it's like you're trying but
Speaker 1: you're not.
Speaker 3: You know, it's very comfortable and the way they do.
Speaker 4: Their stores right, they really know how to sort of.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So for those who were don't know what Double L
Speaker 1: is is, it's a sub collection.
Speaker 3: Of of Ralph Lauren.
Speaker 1: But it is kind of like a little bit more
Speaker 1: old American cowboy, a little bit more vintage old school
Speaker 1: formal soldier, like you know, it's like very yeah, like
Speaker 1: old school Americana, you know, like yeah, really cool stuff.
Speaker 3: Why do you like that? I just have never seen
Speaker 3: people like me wear that, and I thought it was
Speaker 3: such a.
Speaker 4: Unique look classic Americana.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like west it was a little western
Speaker 1: and a little things or whatever, and I just thought
Speaker 1: it was really unique and really fine. And uh and
Speaker 1: I was right now, people, you know, right, but but
Speaker 1: you know, it's also hard to find sometimes, you know,
Speaker 1: because there's no stores anywhere, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, that's interesting what you just said.
Speaker 2: About the people who look like you normally don't wear
Speaker 2: that type of stuff. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's and I think, I guess, I
Speaker 1: guess when it comes to like when it comes to fashion, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, when I was very young, I started thinking
Speaker 1: I have to dress like who I want to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know so, but I didn't have a sense of fashion, right,
Speaker 1: so I will be dressing like in quotes, who I
Speaker 1: wanted to be. And I just got a suit at Seris.
Speaker 1: You know, look it was just like my se because.
Speaker 3: It because it's so chip.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, it's like my first suit
Speaker 1: that I took to my first up front when I
Speaker 1: got my first show, was was from Seis.
Speaker 3: For the Fox upfront. Yeah oh yeah. People were like,
Speaker 3: this is a nice suit where you get it? And
Speaker 3: I'm like, hello.
Speaker 2: They opened the they opened the Insights series exactly like
Speaker 2: it literally is a serious series brand.
Speaker 4: No style and fashion.
Speaker 2: You know, when you when you grew up in Chicago
Speaker 2: and you grew up in the inner city, style is
Speaker 2: everything everything, man, it determines you your personality.
Speaker 1: But there was so much influence then, so everybody could
Speaker 1: follow a stream.
Speaker 3: LA was all over the place. Yeah it was it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was all over the place, like you know,
Speaker 1: if it depended on where you lived, you know, like
Speaker 1: tell me, I'll figure how to moment.
Speaker 3: Abricambia had a moment and.
Speaker 1: Then like you know, and there was like the Dicky
Speaker 1: generation you know, and that kind of stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: so it's like then Diesel came where all the jeans
Speaker 1: and everyone's wearing Diesel jeans all the time.
Speaker 3: Did you ever wear at Hardy?
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't that festive? Yeah, Ed Hardy there is
Speaker 1: definitely not not me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do the Ryanstones Ryanstone jeans, you know,
Speaker 1: like I just couldn't do this, you know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean no dis but no, no, No, some people were
Speaker 1: them and they you know, they definitely you know, they
Speaker 1: like their v Nex, you know, they like.
Speaker 2: Their hed You ever see that skit on SNL with
Speaker 2: with Ben Stiller, the v NEX skit where he gets
Speaker 2: arrested because his v neck is.
Speaker 1: Too No, no, no, everybody was about to check out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what was big in Chicago, you know
Speaker 2: at that time. You know what's crazy is that it's
Speaker 2: all coming back now. I just saw Pharrell wearing or
Speaker 2: even even Kendrick Lamar at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Like flared the bell bottoms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bell bottom jeans with the with the with the
Speaker 1: buffy leather jacket. Really cool look, by the way, I
Speaker 1: really liked Yeah he was wearing so so, you.
Speaker 4: Know, it's funny.
Speaker 2: I tell you my two sons, uh, you knows, as
Speaker 2: they were growing up, they would see photos of me
Speaker 2: in the nineties and like, and all they did was.
Speaker 3: Make fun of me.
Speaker 2: Man made fun of my my hairstyle, made fun of
Speaker 2: my clothes.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, dad, you look so nineties. Look at
Speaker 4: your curtain hair. You know they you know that style,
Speaker 4: like boy, Yeah, they would call that.
Speaker 2: The curtain hairstyle because it looked like a crude Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then and then cut too. My son has a
Speaker 4: curtain hairstyle.
Speaker 2: Now he's dressing exactly like I dressed in the nineties,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, hold on a second, Like all
Speaker 2: these years you made fun of me, and now it
Speaker 2: it's the style now there.
Speaker 3: You know, that's cool.
Speaker 4: But you see Kendrick wearing sort of like.
Speaker 3: I mean, all that retro thing is back.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody boycotted it during the time it was popular,
Speaker 1: and now it's coming back.
Speaker 3: As this trend. The nineties are bad everybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen so many of my my nephew's friends,
Speaker 1: you know, wearing literally nineties clothes, right, vintage nineties clothes
Speaker 1: like they're brand new.
Speaker 2: Did you when you did the nineties show? Was that
Speaker 2: part of like were they that specific when you did that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, No, they really authentically. I mean our stuff
Speaker 1: was vintage clothes from the nineties.
Speaker 4: So did you find it you were wearing stuff like that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I went with like a more of like a richerd gear,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the Richard direction nineties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was doing nineties affairs Richard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like high like high waste, like high wasted pants,
Speaker 1: you know, and like the puffy little code and you know.
Speaker 2: Right right, that's a good that's a good point of reference.
Speaker 2: Is that your point of reference? You were doing the show.
Speaker 1: Roughly because I've never seen someone like me wear the
Speaker 1: richerd gear. By the way, also, I like to I
Speaker 1: like to point out that Richard Years making a heroic
Speaker 1: comeback into pop culture.
Speaker 3: I just watched him on the on the Agency Agency.
Speaker 3: God is so good. He was born to play a
Speaker 3: boss bro, he was.
Speaker 4: He always killed, you know. I watched that show and Ichael, damn, Richard,
Speaker 4: where you been man?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like we missed you man. Yeah, I feel a little
Speaker 3: wobbed like.
Speaker 1: And I've been seeing him in some interviews and he's
Speaker 1: like very very he's got opinions. He's really sharing his mind,
Speaker 1: and I respect that he's you know, he's coming out
Speaker 1: here and and saying his mind.
Speaker 3: It's it's awesome. It's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe this is a really good opportunity to ask
Speaker 1: all of the fans out there that, you know, if
Speaker 1: there's topics, there's things you guys wanted to discuss or
Speaker 1: dive into anything from his career or you know, ideals
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Values so you really dive into.
Speaker 1: But there's tons of pop culture to explore. So absolutely
Speaker 1: thank you for sitting with us today. And that's we
Speaker 1: went into a This was like a magazine flipping through
Speaker 1: magazines and you went through you then adds also you
Speaker 1: know well, thank you everyone and see you in the
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