WEBVTT - “Style: Drakkar Noir, Tres Flores & Mullets?” 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:16.759 Welcome back to those amigos. This is Wilmer valderramad Rodriguez 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:19.040 and and you know, I feel like we've been talking 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:21.280 about so much insightful stuff that we should go back 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.840 to like what fills in the thirteen hours of the 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:25.119 flight to London. 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:29.400 Shit. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:35.640 So this episode we thought, hey, man, let's just you know, 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:37.880 let's create aesthetics. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:39.839 So right now we were in the shoes and we 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.400 just noticed that our shoes are by the same company, 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.880 you know, and they're Nike, you know, but their colors 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.040 gold gray and black, gold gray and black. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.880 You got Jordan's, I got, I think these are Pegasus, 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.360 you know. We were in shink. Yeah. 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.120 By the way, this is the style episode we're gonna 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:01.120 just titled rest today. And he brought us back to 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:03.800 those days when we used to be invited to Marina 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.160 Lray to the Nike warehouse. 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:08.000 Shout out to Tracy, Tracy Gray. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:11.200 Tracy Gray so much. I hope you're listening to this. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:14.440 I wish you would have given ATHLETs for free. They're 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:16.160 pretty expensive nowadays. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:17.360 But are you? 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.880 But but yeah, definitely definitely shout out to her because 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:26.440 she was making all of our young young men's uh 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:28.960 ow dreams come true. You go in there and then 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.000 menim Mini moo. She was so generous. You know, it's 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.200 like really kind of amazing. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:34.600 It was this wonderful facility. 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:39.080 Obviously, right, Nike has to advertise, right, whether it's commercials 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:41.440 or wherever it is, and it was at a point 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:46.240 where they would equip celebrities I guess, right, with some 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.680 Nike gear and we would wear it and that would 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:49.440 be a form. 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:50.640 Of advertisement, right. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.080 Yeah, but you were telling this awesome story about DJ 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:57.760 a m oh yeah and taking him there and how 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:04.240 he was the first DJ they embraced that commercial level. 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:09.120 Yeah, Adam was in my definition, one of the best 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:13.520 DJs of our entire generation. The mark he left behind, 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.320 the amount of incredible DJs he mentored, uh, the incredible 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:22.600 amount of artists that he inspired, The idea that he 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:28.720 could mash up Sweet Home Alabama and Biggie Yeah. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.240 You know, it was like just on trial, like no 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.480 one was doing that. No one was doing that, you know. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.120 It was kind of it was also thrown it back 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.160 to the days of like you know, roun DNC and 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:45.080 and Aerospan, right, but this guy was doing it with radio. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:46.359 And like underground hits. 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:49.160 You know, and he would play oases at the end 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.480 of the night, you know, after a big hip hop scene. 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:54.560 You know, it's like and so he he just was 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:57.920 such a pioneer, not just for music but for style. 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:01.320 I mean, the guy were a different Air Force one 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.560 every single night, every single night, everythingle night. 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.560 He never repeated Air Force one. That's how fast his 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:08.560 collection was. He had a huge collection. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:11.880 And so one day I rolled in with some you know, 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.440 limited air Force ones to the to the club, you know, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:16.040 with him, and then I rolled up. 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.400 He's like, Yo, Wilmer, would you get those? I was like, 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:20.360 I don't know, dude. 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:21.880 I think I got him in a box from Nike 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.400 and he goes, WHOA, You're getting free Nikes? And I 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.480 was again at the time, everyone who's listening there was 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.960 these programs had all these companies. This was their way 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.920 of seeding their product through pop culture, right. They would 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:40.560 they would go to actors and musicians and athletes, and 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:42.240 they would just give him stuff to wear in the 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.360 street because they knew that when they would go out there, 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.720 people would look at them and they most likely will 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.480 look down to their shoes or the jacket they were wearing, 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.800 and like and by the way it was, it was 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:55.840 a very very effective, you know, kind of a marketing strategy, 0:03:55.920 --> 0:04:00.560 right because because you you were just giving free product 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.880 to an artist and get him free advertising, you didn't 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.280 have to pay them an endorsement deal. You didn't have 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.200 to pay them a commercial deal. You literally put free 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.680 stuff on them. And if somebody saw it and they're like, 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:15.160 I like the shoes that Freddie's wearing, they go to 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.280 Nike and be like you, I just saw this great 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:20.400 blah blah blah. So he was converting into actual profit 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:21.960 for a lot of these companies. 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:23.200 Anyways, he started like. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.840 You getting free stuff and I was like yeah, he goes, man, man, 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.000 it's like my dream to go to the Nike warehouse. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:31.400 So he knew about it already. He knew about the 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.760 the Ray. It was like infamous. You know. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.960 It's like I heard they have a basketball courts in there, 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:38.159 you know, and I really had the first Nike shoes 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.640 in there, like you know. So he was he was 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.200 really into it and really knew everything about it. And 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:44.680 I was like, you've never been to it. He's like, 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:47.640 and dude, he at this point he's like with the 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:51.960 biggest DJ, right, like you know, Jennet Jackson in the 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.640 in the DJ booth with him like blame in my 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:55.640 latest single, you. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:56.000 Know, like. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:59.800 Calvin Harris before Calvin Harris. 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:04.120 Absolute and you know, and I will say he was 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.840 moments away from having all his stuff play on the radio. Yeah, 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:08.520 he was gonna be the first one, you know. I know, 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.560 his original tracks is incredible, you know. Anyways, going back 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.240 to the Nike story, so so he he's like. 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:17.279 Wait, you go to the warehouse. You're kidding me. You 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.720 get free stuff? And I was like, yeah, dude, I 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.080 get free stuff. I'm look at these, you know. He's like, 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.080 oh man, those are those are crazy? Right? Oh man? 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.720 I one day I can go there. And I was like, bro, 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:28.840 like what are you doing tomorrow. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:34.159 He's like, no, dog dog oh me, that'd be crazy. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.279 He always coming homie home. I'd be crazy. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:39.480 I was like, we'll be crazy because you're gonna take 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:42.480 me to the to the warehouse. And I was like yeah, 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.039 and I'm not I've been to the warehouse at this 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.080 point like nineteen times. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.400 So I'm like, yes, it's like we're going. We just 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:49.080 show up. We don't even tell him anymore, you know. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:51.720 And and he was like. 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.400 You sure, man, like you sure it's not cool with you? 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:56.240 Like I mean may it would be a dream of true. 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.400 And I was like, bro, let's go. So I went 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.560 and picked him up. He wore he's cleaning are first. 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.479 Once we rolled up to the warehouse, Marinada Ray Tracy 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:07.160 Gray you know very well, you know, greeted us outside 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:10.039 and she's like, hey. I was like, remember I was 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:11.760 telling you my friends the DJ, I said, you know, 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.080 you always have artists here, you always have actors and 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.960 musicians and athletes, but the DJs are the ones who 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.360 really transcend in the streets. I mean, these guys really 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.480 were the fly stuff, you know when when they're performing. 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.000 She's like, no, no, welcome, I'm excited. Look a friend 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:26.719 of Wilmer is a friend of mine. And I was like, 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:31.200 let's go. We get inside and dude, it was like 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.680 it takes you to that special room. Yes, in special room, 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.479 and then the thing opens and you're like, oh my god. 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.640 It was literally like a seven year old go into 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:40.800 Disneyland for the first time. 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:42.840 Wow. It was that type of thing that you were 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:44.600 just like, oh my god, this is larger. 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.960 And like all different rooms were themed. You remember what 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:49.039 you remember some of the things. 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.760 The golf room, there was the Jordan room. 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.239 There was sort of like. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.640 It was almost like walking into like a Nike store, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.640 but they would walk you in and go take. 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.280 One, yes, And I said, what do you mean pick one? 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.520 He goes, yeah, what size are you? I go ten 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.400 and a half. And then they're like, try is on. 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.560 They fit really good. They fit really good, thank you, 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:15.320 And I take them off and give them right back 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:16.480 and they're like, no, these are yours. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:20.400 I said, I'm I'm sorry. You mean like you can 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:23.720 take this home. I mean, it was like just bizarre. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.560 You were like, what are you kidding me? You're giving 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.360 me free shoes, right, I mean like it was just 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:28.840 so cool. 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.840 And she was so nice, and you know, he came 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.240 in he told her the story of his shoes and 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.640 he told her, you know, he started looking at all 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.640 the stuff on the walls and all the limited edition and. 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:40.720 He was like he knew more story about that stuff 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.920 than anyone else. Wow. And he just was in encyclopedia of. 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:48.080 Nike and trand in different eras in different decades and 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.480 the things that were released, and Tracy was so impressed 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.720 by that. Wow, Adam like that's there's a lot of 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.280 knowledge there, you know, and she's like, hey, so what 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:02.680 size are you? And his eyes he looked. He goes, no, right, don't. 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.200 I was just here visiting with Wilmer like I was. 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:07.440 He didn't think he was gonna get a pair of shoes. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:09.040 He just thought he was going to see the warehouse. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.640 And then she gives him forget what was serious. It 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:16.160 was seriously, she gave him some beautiful air Force ones 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.320 and she was still taken. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.880 Back how grateful he was, and he loved the brand. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:23.520 He goes, you know, artists come in there, they're just like, oh, yeah, 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.880 take the free stuff. But did this dude meant everything? 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:28.080 You know? Yeah? 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.080 And you know, so I gave Trasey his number and 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.400 all that stuff, and then like we we went back 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:33.920 to our normal lives, you know. And then all of 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:38.200 a sudden, he's like, yo, dude, I just want to say, man, 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:38.640 thank you. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:40.880 I'm going to the warehouse by myself. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:42.920 And I'm like, oh, cool, cool, cool, And then he 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.000 called me again like whatever, Like two months later, he goes, dude, 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:49.160 you won't believe this. Man, I'm gonna design. I'm going 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:53.120 to design the dj AM air Force. Once wow, I 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:56.760 said what he goes, Yeah, man, it's crazy. Thank you man, 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:58.720 thank you. I was like, no, dude, you deserve it, 0:08:58.840 --> 0:08:59.280 of course. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:08:59.840 Yeah. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.440 And then like a year after that, Tracy called him 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.840 and said, hey, we would love for you to be in. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:14.520 The Kobe Bryant commercial for Nike. Wow. So, all of a. 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:18.080 Sudden, AM is the first DJ and the history of 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:22.280 DJs to be to be in a national Nike commercial 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.840 with Kobe Bryant, who's a multi champion at the time. 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.680 And and it was just like just magic, you know. 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:29.960 It was a perfect. 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.080 Yeah, and how did that even happen? Just because she 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.320 recognized his knowledge of Air Force one And. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:40.520 At this point she talked well, because I'm sure she 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:42.680 she told me after it and I realized that, and 0:09:42.720 --> 0:09:44.600 she started asking around, who's this guy in the DJ 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:47.560 AM And then I told her everything about him. But 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:49.400 then when she started hearing it from everybody else and 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.959 her staff and the team and people knew exactly what 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:57.720 he was, she realized, oh, this is a very interesting unique. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.720 He wasn't even underground anymore. He was pretty man. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:05.160 He he was just a massive moment, you know. And 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.760 and she then recognized that and realized, this is a 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:09.360 very unique way to go with Nike. 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.040 It's never it's a destination we've never gone, and it 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:14.040 makes the most sense. 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.880 The music, the lifestyle, you know, it all made a 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.240 lot of sense for the brand, and they started expanding 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:20.880 into that direction. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:21.920 That's so cool that. 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.240 She had the foresight, right because now, right as I 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.520 was saying, and the Diplos and the Calvin Harris's of 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.880 the world, who all have residencies now and a tso 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:35.079 all those guys, right, but she kind of recognized the 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.400 potential of that way before it was mainstream or popular. 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:39.079 Absolutely. 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.360 So I mean, look, Steve Oki, shout out to my 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:44.600 brother stevee Okay, you know, you know he he was, 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.560 he was the part of that generation and am you know, 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:49.760 mentor him and a lot of incredible things. And then 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.000 they partner up and things together. They had their own 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.560 club together and everything. Oh yeah, and then just and 0:10:55.559 --> 0:11:01.240 then Aoki just became you know, his own yeah, iconic brand, 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.960 and he just swored you know, and the. 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:08.280 Cakes and yeah, the sort of incorporating this kind of 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:10.400 theater aspect to DJ. 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:10.920 Yeah. 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.840 And you know, so the more I remember, the more 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.520 I tell the story, the more it just makes me 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.200 sad because of the potential he had, you know, and 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:21.080 you know, just to catch everybody up, I'm talking about 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.719 you know Adam, you know Djam, who was one of 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.480 the biggest DJs of our generation, of the two thousands, 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:28.760 you know, and yeah. 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.200 And you know, he's no longer with us. 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:35.480 Unfortunately he lost his battle, and it was just really, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:39.600 you know, really really sad because he right now would 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:43.400 have built something very special. I mean, he would have 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.959 been probably the biggest music producer. You know, he probably 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:49.680 would have made so much, so much music that would 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.080 have redefined so much of what we do. I got 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:56.160 a lot of music today that's made it's popular in radio, 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.559 and he plays, you know, but what he was doing, 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:03.200 he was he was doing timeless music that really could 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.160 could you know, could last? 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.480 Wow? Yeah, pretty pretty pretty gradible. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.000 But I have a music story too, if I may shoot. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.520 Of course, I've never told the story. I'm gonna I'm 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:19.600 gonna say it right now. When I was shooting dead presidents, 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:26.160 we got an invitation to a birthday party, and uh, 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.920 the whole house was invited to this big birthday party 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:31.520 that was going to have a bunch of music people 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:32.280 in it. 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:35.319 And uh, and I'm I'm nineteen years old. 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:37.200 I'm right out of high school. You know, I'm a 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.079 big hip hop head. I'm in I'm in New York 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:41.160 in ninety. 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:42.959 Four, sort of the apex of like that. 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.760 Early nineties hip hop movement. And uh, I get invited 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:47.840 to this birthday party. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:51.920 And as soon as I walk in, I see Dougie Fresh, 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:56.480 I see Jay Rue the damager I see Grand Pooba 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.160 from Brand Nubian's, all of these people that just the 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.680 year before I was in high school listening to like 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:02.760 their CDs, you know. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.520 And right before I did that movie, I was. 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.840 Doing a movie called A Walk in the Clouds and 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.120 it was produced one of the producers on it was 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:15.040 this old school guy named Jim Brubaker. And you would 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.560 have known Jim. He did like a lot of like 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.320 the Stallone movies in the seventies and eighties, and eventually 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.040 he went on to run physical production over at Universal 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:25.680 and oversaw movies. 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:27.880 Like Liar Liar and all those early Jim Carrey movies. 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:31.400 But Jim was a. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:36.160 Teamster, old school gruff teamster who became a producer, right 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.880 so he had that sensibility about him. And while I 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.960 was doing A Walk in the Clouds. I auditioned for 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.760 Dead Presidents and I got it, and I came back 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.600 to set and he. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.920 Goes, hey, I heard I heard you. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.840 You got this movie. Dead President's a you're you gonna 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.520 go do it? He was like, hey, is Tupac in 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:58.720 that movie? And I was like, I have no idea, right, 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.920 He just assumed because it was like an urban movie. 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.320 And he goes, well, if Tupaca is in that movie, 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:06.720 or you ever meet Tupac, you. 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:08.600 Tell him you know me, Jim brew Baker. 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:12.080 He goes, because I produced Above the Rim and I 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.480 was with Tupac at each and every one of his 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.719 court cases when we were doing that movie. And so 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.960 I was like, okay, Jim brew Baker, Tupac. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.200 Tell him, I know you got it right. 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.440 I was like a nineteen year old kid, and this 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.240 story is a oh yeah yeah. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.600 So so cut to I'm doing The Presidents. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:32.600 I go to this party. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.200 I see all of these musical artists that I've admired forever. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.120 All of a sudden, I see. 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.560 Tupac right, no W And in my brain, Jim brew Baker, 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:46.520 Tupac go say hi, right, I'm approaching Tupac, And all 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:49.480 of a sudden, this big guy just kind of gets 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.080 in front of me right and starts talking to Tupac, 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:57.240 and I look up and it's Biggie Smalls what and 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:01.200 so like yeah, So I didn't understand like the significance 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.240 of the moment that I was witnessing, you know. And 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.560 I was just there like watching Biggie and Tupac hug 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.720 each other and give each other so much. 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:12.000 Love and respect. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.440 And then and of course I'm sitting there like a 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.040 kid right waiting for that interaction to stop so I 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:20.560 can go tell him. And then another person comes into 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.040 their circle, another person, other person, and then I missed my. 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:24.000 Opportunity, right. 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:29.720 So about a week later, I'm at this club called 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.440 the Palladium in New York, and I'm passing by the 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.600 VIP section and long and behold, I see Tupac in 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.400 the VIP section and I can tell he looks over 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.560 to me, and I go like this, and I'm waving 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:42.000 him over right, like no. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.880 Sense, no sense of etiquette or anything. And he's looking 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.920 at me like, who the hell is this guy waving 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:48.360 me over? 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:51.320 Right? And see he comes over with all this bravado 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.720 and he's like, yo, what's up? Man? And I was like, hey, 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.280 I introduced myself and I'm like, I'm here doing this movie. 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.840 And by the way, Jim Brubaker wanted to meet it. 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.120 And as soon as I said Jim's name is like 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.920 all that bravado win went all out the window and 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:05.840 he was like, oh my god. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:07.480 Told Jim I said hello and. 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:09.360 That I met you. Like yeah, man. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.680 It was like it was like mob like respect right there. 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:13.000 Right. 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.280 So about a. 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:20.480 Week after that, I go to work and and like 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.200 everybody's faces was long. 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.120 You know, I can tell that there was a sadness 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:26.080 on set and I'm. 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:27.560 Like, hey, what happened. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.800 They're like, man, you know, Tupac just got shot in 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.800 this studio. And I was like, what do you mean 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.280 he just got shot. I just just talked to that 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:37.560 guy like a week ago. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.480 He goes, no, man, he got shot, you know. And 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:45.080 as the story unfolded, you know, everyone thought that Biggie 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.040 shot him in that studio and they were saying that 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.400 on set and I was like, whoa hold on a second, 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:53.840 how could that be? Man? I just saw them hugging 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:55.320 like right in front of. 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:55.680 Me, you know. 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:01.240 And then and then the movie ended, and you know, 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.160 I went back home and then. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:04.760 All of that East Coast. 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.040 West started, you know as a big that war was 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:12.080 the most unfortunate Yeah moment for history. Uh and in 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.600 the hip hop history, I should say, yeah. 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.000 And then and then and then Tupac died, and then 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:21.160 Biggie died, and so like you know, yeah, we were 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:24.160 just like me seeing it unfold and seeing those two 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.600 guys die, and it brings a certain level of sadness 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.359 to me because every time I would see that, or 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.800 because all I can think of was like being in 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.840 front of these two guys and like watching them hug 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:38.240 and give each other sans. 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:43.280 Did you ever spit some bars for Tupac? Because you know. 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:46.480 Thats goming right, you know, you know that episode is 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.639 coming right where you're gonna have to or we're gonna 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.679 have to play some of No one wants to hear that. 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:53.520 Everyone. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.400 In fact, we're changing the those Amigo soundtrack to one 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:58.400 of their old tracks. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:10.960 Speaking of fashion. But by the way, what a beautiful 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.240 sidetrack to tell those graces. Oh yeah, yeah, we. 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:15.159 Started talking about music, So I hope that was all right? 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:20.159 What's your what's your cologne? What's it? What's your uh? 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.720 And man, what's what's your cologne? Man? 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:25.920 Man, I rocked some DRAKR in the water. 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:30.080 Hey, don't take my don't take. 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.920 I remember everyone your car. 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.280 Yeah, man, I was at your car for like heavy 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:36.760 thirty five years of my life. 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.240 Heavy, I mean heavy, heavy, heavy. 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.480 And you know they say, oh, your car smells a 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.240 little different than anybody on everybody. 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:44.399 Oh, I don't know. 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.720 It smelled pretty similar to the to my favorite ups guy. 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:52.320 You know, like, why was your your cologne? 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:52.720 My dad? 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:55.920 Ah, your pop My dad was like he used to 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:57.520 put it over like his gold chain. 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.520