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Speaker 1: So he got one hundred and seventy million dollars guaranteed. Now,

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Speaker 1: ever watched. They basically did an hour podcast, the two

429
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: of them talking non stop shit about Chip Kelly. And

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Speaker 1: they called several people throughout the podcast, Jason Peters, Jeremy Macklin,

431
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham on their phone and put it on the

432
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Speaker 1: mic to ask them what they thought of Chip Kelly.

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Speaker 1: And it was ugly and I would recommend if if

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Speaker 1: you want to just be entertained and laugh a little bit,

435
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Speaker 1: to turn it on. And I can't speak for Deshaun

436
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: as much, but I a lot of dinners when I

437
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: worked for the Eagles during the season, me and the

438
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: scouts would have and sell it and Shady were there

439
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: a lot. I would say there wasn't anyone that didn't

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00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: get along with Leshawn McCoy. He's one of the more

441
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,959
Speaker 1: easy going guys to like, he's just kind of a

442
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: magnetic personality, and you can tell in this video he's

443
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 1: just He's just an awesome guy to have in your

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00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: locker room. And they both despised chip Kelly. Now, obviously

445
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: I got fired how he technically called me, But I

446
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: got in an argument in a draft meeting with Chip

447
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: Kelly over Matt Barkley, and in my short interactions with him,

448
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: it was very short, like i'd be lying if I

449
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 1: have a great feel for him as a person. My

450
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: first reaction because I felt like he forced me out.

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Speaker 1: I don't like him, but it's not because I dealt

452
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Speaker 1: with him a lot personally. I know a lot of

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00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: people though that spent the next several years around Chip Kelly,

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Speaker 1: and I got to say that I second third and

455
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: stamp everything those guys say. Every story I ever heard

456
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: about the guy was he was a complete douchebag. And

457
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Speaker 1: one of the themes of their podcast and this other

458
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: players had said this as well, is he really struggled

459
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: to talk with the black guys on the team. Listen.

460
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: I knew a lot of scouts that were white guys

461
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: that got the same thing, like I think he really

462
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: struggles to interact with people, and I think he from

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00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: everyone I've ever met, think he's a complete fraud and

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00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: that they hammered this. He would say one thing to

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Speaker 1: your face and do something else behind your back. I've

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00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: always thought this, having firsthand knowledge of people I'm very

467
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: close with in the league. He's just a legitimately bad guy.

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00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's a good person. And I've

469
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: been around good people in the sport of football. I

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Speaker 1: worked for two years around Pat Hill, high quality, high

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Speaker 1: character guy. Obviously, the same thing with Andy Reid, but

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of guys on that staff, just

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Speaker 1: good people. Doug Peterson, Sean McDermott. I mean, these guys

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00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: went on Todd Bowles, just nice guys, just easy to

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Speaker 1: deal with. Jim Kelly was not that guy, and I

476
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Speaker 1: think everything they said I said this forever growing up

477
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Speaker 1: a UCLA fan. I couldn't believe one that they hired him.

478
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: I think he has been one of the biggest con

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00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: artists in the sport of football since the Eagles thing ended.

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Speaker 1: He conned the Niners out of a job, he conned

481
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Speaker 1: Ucla out of a job, and now he's at Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Mainly because he got Ryan Day's career started in the

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Speaker 1: NFL when he hired him with the Eagles. I think

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Speaker 1: both guys are very, very lucky that Jim Harball left

485
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Speaker 1: Michigan and went to the Chargers, because I think if

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball just would have been like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm good on the NFL. I'm just gonna stay at

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Speaker 1: Michigan and build a bully, I think he would have

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Speaker 1: ended them. Would have now Ohio State might end up

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Speaker 1: beating him now, Sharon More, it's going to be, you know,

491
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: a drop off obviously with Hardball gone. But I just

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00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,719
Speaker 1: think Jim Kelly's a bad guy and I think they

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Speaker 1: hammered that home. No one trusts him. I just think

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Speaker 1: he's one of the bigger frauds in the business. And

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Speaker 1: whatever he did revolutionary, which he did back in Oregon.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty four. No one gives a shit the

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Speaker 1: way here people. I've just never heard a good thing

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00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: over the last ten years of anyone that works for him.

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Speaker 1: And listen, it's football. Tensions are high, people have bad moments,

500
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: welcome to life. But the way that he consistently acted

501
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: toward people, it's just it's consistently the most negative thing

502
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: that I hear in the sport relative to any other person.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not one just to say this to say this,

504
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: like Brandon Saley, I ripped as a coach. I don't

505
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: know him as a guy, like it has nothing personal

506
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: like this is personal with Chip Kelly, the way he

507
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: treats people. So I'm glad those guys did it because

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00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like that. Think how long football

509
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: has been going. Think how many players that are out

510
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: of the league could do that to different coaches, but

511
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Speaker 1: they don't because it'd be basically impossible. It'd be really,

512
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: really hard. I mean they easily went for an hour

513
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: doing that and getting other guys. And it's not just

514
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: like Jeremy Mack super high character normal, well like guy

515
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham. I mean, it's one of the more famous

516
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Eagles of the last decade. Jason Peters a little bit

517
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: of a wild card in his early days, but the best,

518
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Speaker 1: as those guys said, the best player on the team

519
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: has been playing in the NFL still. I think he

520
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: was playing last year. It's like forty two years old.

521
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Speaker 1: Everyone likes the guy. They fucking couldn't stand him because

522
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, what they knew, and this is where I

523
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: know the race component comes in. But I truly don't

524
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Speaker 1: believe it's about that, because if one of his players,

525
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Speaker 1: if one of his scouts was on fire in his

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Speaker 1: front yard, I don't believe Chip Kelly would piss on

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Speaker 1: him to put him out. I truly believe that to

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Speaker 1: my core, and I think he's kind of good working.

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Speaker 1: Some of these media guys listen. I know Colin likes

530
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: him to Joe Klatt always stands by him. I think

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Speaker 1: he's a complete con artist. So I'm glad that they

532
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: put that out, complete fraud, and I wish Hardball would

533
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: have stayed one more year so he could kick the

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00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: shit out of those two guys. Tangent Tuesday. Just two things.

535
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Speaker 1: One I'd be lying. I'm not some huge hockey guy.

536
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: I don't watch regular season hockey. I don't even really

537
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: know beside like Connor McGregor most of the good players

538
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: in the NHL, I have watched a decent amount of

539
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: playoff hockey. It is fantastic. It is like the UFC

540
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: meets a puck and an ice rink. The violence, the physicality,

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Speaker 1: the intensity, it is just a fantastic sport. The level

542
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: of give a shit from every single person, coach and player,

543
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: You're on the edge of your seat. I mean, I

544
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: basically watched all the Edmonton Vancouver game last night. I

545
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: don't have money on these, I have no money on these,

546
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is a fantastic product, and

547
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: I get relative to the other major team sports, it's

548
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: not as big in America. But if you just like

549
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: competition and you like physicality and violence and just intensity,

550
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: playoff hockey is just an awesome sport to watch. And last,

551
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: but not least, one thing I just can't quite wrap

552
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: my head around. And I see this non stop is

553
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: former NBA players and people on TV talking shit about

554
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Nikola Jokic. That'd be the equivalent of like someone being like,

555
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, Patrick Mahomes, He's just I don't see it.

556
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't quite understand the hype. If you

557
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: just have been watching basketball for five years and you

558
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: watch two games of this guy, like, yeah, this is

559
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 1: one of the best players I've ever seen. I've been

560
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: watching the NBA for thirty years. He's easily one of

561
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: the most dominant players I've ever seen. And good guy,

562
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: not some self promoter champion mvp Z. I don't get it.

563
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: I truly don't get it. Is it jealousy? Is it

564
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: because he can't jump? I don't understand it. If you

565
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: watch a Yokitch game consistently, he's putting up like thirty eight,

566
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: ten and fifteen. He is kicking the shit out of

567
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: whoever he is playing. Like it's not even debatable how

568
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: good the guy is. And it's not like he's some

569
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: overhyped player that always gets bounced in the first round.

570
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: He literally won the championship last year and after these

571
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: two games, probably gonna win the championship again this year.

572
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: But even if he doesn't like he is clearly a

573
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: high level, championship incredible teammate. I just don't understand. Every

574
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: time I look on the Internet, Instagram, Twitter, flip on

575
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: TV and one of those talking people are talking shit,

576
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: It's one of the most baffling things I've ever seen.

577
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: I understand they're polarizing players, right, see it with Josh Allen,

578
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 1: see with Lamar James Harden over the years, even Lebron

579
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: before he won a championship. I get it, But like,

580
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: once you prove you're the best player on the best team,

581
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: what are we discussing, and you just consistently run circles

582
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: around everyone. You're the best player in the world. Like,

583
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: it's not even debatable if people, I guess are always

584
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: gonna hate. I just I can't fathom not enjoying watching

585
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: that guy play slash thinking he's overrated or something. I

586
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: can't get it. I think of all the athletes I've

587
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: ever watched in my entire life, that's probably the biggest

588
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: head scratching take that I consistently see ever. Okay, Middlecoff mailbag,

589
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: you guys know the drill at John Middlecoff at John

590
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms. To get

591
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: your question answered here on the show, we will start

592
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: with Kobe Brown five hundred and ninety four followers. By

593
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: the way, not bad, young man. It was like a

594
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: firefighter mailbag. Everyone acts like the Bears fleece the Panther

595
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: with the trade last year. I agree, and it looks

596
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: like a landslide, especially with how young played last season.

597
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: But I believe we still need to consider the fact

598
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: they passed on CJ. Stroud. Would you take Stroud over

599
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. I would take c J. Stroud. So you're

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Speaker 1: saying that the Bears passed on c J. Stroud being

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00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: number one. I think I would rather have. Like if today,

602
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: would you take c J. Stroud or Caleb Williams May thirteenth,

603
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, you would If you were in the NFL,

604
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: you would have to take c J. Stroud. He has

605
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: a year body of work. No one can debate that, right,

606
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: you would have to take CJ. Stroud. And I'm high

607
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: on Caleb Williams. I think if you told me today,

608
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: I could have everything. The Bears got DJ Moore, the

609
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: picks and Caleb Williams. I think you would have to

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00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: take that because it's not Caleb for CJ. Stroud. It's

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00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: Caleb plus DJ Moore plus they sucked another year with

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00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: Justin Fields which led to Roma Dunsa, Right, so there's

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00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: there's other stuff that comes along with it. I think

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00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: in a vacuum player for player you would take CJ.

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00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: Stroud to day, but when you factor in the package,

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00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: I would take the risk of Caleb and everything else

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00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: still could be wrong, but I think you would have

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00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: to because it was it was a lot. I mean,

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00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: they also have their second round pick next year, so

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00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: what if the Panthers suck again. What if that pick

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Speaker 1: is thirty seven, so it's Caleb DJ Moore a second.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a lot, man. I think you got

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00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: a fact. I hear what you're saying, and you're not wrong.

624
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: But it's not player for player, it's the entire trade.

625
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: And I think when you factor in the entire trade

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Speaker 1: of a no brainer, love the show. Appreciate you, Trent.

627
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: My question for the mail bag is, as someone who

628
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: worked under him for years, what do you believe separates

629
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: Howie as one of the best gms in the league.

630
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: What are some of his unique philosophies he has? Well,

631
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: I think one of the most powerful things you can

632
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: have in that position is information. Is being information gather

633
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: on pro guys, on college players, and on the coaching world.

634
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 1: And I think nobody uses information better. And Howie is

635
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: what I would consider an intellect. He's very bright. So

636
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: his ability to make these trades on draft night, he

637
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: can just operate on his feet better than I would

638
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: just say, quote unquote some football guys. So his intellectual capacity,

639
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: just in terms of maneuverability and understanding the cap because

640
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: that's where he started, is just far superre than everyone else.

641
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 1: So he watches tape and he's been doing it now

642
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: for twenty plus years. I don't think anyone's gonna, you know,

643
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: get him, consider him Bilpollion, right or someone like that.

644
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: But he knows what's good and what's bad. And his

645
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: ability to understand contracts and the value of contracts and

646
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: then work trades either on the draft or not on

647
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: the draft is clearly second to none. So I remember

648
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: getting there and I was essentially like his personnel assistant

649
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: and being overwhelmed because he was kind of all over

650
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: the map because his brain fires like all of others

651
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: do that have like EIGHTYHD here, and it was hard

652
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: to keep up on everything. Within a year you kind

653
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: of get a hold of. You just got to be

654
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: prepared for anything. But I think he's done a very

655
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: very good job over the years of hiring. I mean,

656
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: they have a really good scouting staff, and he has guys.

657
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 1: I mean, now he's had Alan Walking forever, who I

658
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: consider a friend and who's really good at his job.

659
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: He hired Joe Douglass away. I mean when I was there,

660
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: we had Veach, Lewis Riddick, Phil Savage, we had a

661
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: lot of people. He just always has like and part

662
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: of this is Jeffrey giving him the budget, you know,

663
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: to higher high high end scouts. He works closely with

664
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: those guys. He works with a contract. I would also

665
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 1: say his capacity to follow everything is pretty impressive. It's

666
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: really really difficult. I think, you know, most people just

667
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: believe that everyone in the NFL kind of knows everything.

668
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: A lot of college scouts have no clue what guys

669
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: in the NFL look like on tape. Like they're not

670
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: constantly watching college tape, right, just like a lot of

671
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: pro guys aren't super dialed in twenty four to seven

672
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: to the college game. There is a small percentage, I

673
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: would say, of guys that are all over it all

674
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: the time, what's playing in both and then understanding the

675
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: value because his job isn't just to get the player right,

676
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: it's to know the value of those guys. And I

677
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: think how he's elite at that because he looks at

678
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: it from I would say much more of analytical is

679
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: the wrong way to put it, but an unemotional like

680
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: this is the value on the guy, this is what

681
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: we're willing to pay, this is when and he's the

682
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: other thing he's got that you have to have in

683
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: the NFL when it comes to players, and actually he

684
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: can be very cutthroat and just move off a guy

685
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: and pivot on a guy. And I think as he's

686
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: gotten older when I you know, since then, obviously he's

687
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: got very close emotional ties to their core group of

688
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: guys you know, over the years, Kelsey Lane, Johnson, Brandon Graham,

689
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, because he spent so much time around those guys.

690
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: And I think the one thing he's really really good at,

691
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: because the Eagles have been good at this for a

692
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: long time, is knowing what high high end guys look like.

693
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: And then I think a characteristic that he balances pretty

694
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: well is the character stuff of valuing character. I think

695
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: they do a good job of that now. I mean,

696
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: look at the two guys they took, but also knowing

697
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: that like to win in the NFL, you gotta take

698
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: some you gotta take some chances, and sometimes you gotta

699
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: put your balls on the table like he did with

700
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter. And let's face it, like some of the

701
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: gms in the league, which I don't blame them, like

702
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't blame Atlanta or Detroit, like it was pretty risky,

703
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: but maybe Atlanta would have benefited from taking him over

704
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: Bjon Robinson, but they didn't. They didn't do it, you know,

705
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 1: and how his team was much more equipped to handle

706
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: him because of the Georgia guys. I doesn't think he'll change,

707
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: you know, He's smart. People change, right, Like philosophically, when

708
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: it comes to business, you have a belief and then

709
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: the world changes and you gotta pivot. If you don't,

710
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna get lapped and you're gonna be one of

711
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: those people in five or ten years complaining about it.

712
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: I've always thought, like my moral compass in what I

713
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: believe in, like when it comes to society, honestly hasn't

714
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: really changed in thirty years, like how to treat people,

715
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: how to act when it comes to dealing with older people,

716
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to dealing with people professionally, like I've

717
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: kind of been taught that by my parents since I

718
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: was I don't know, ten, fifteen years old. But when

719
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: it comes to the way I look at money and

720
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: the industry I'm in constantly changes and it constantly adapts,

721
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: and I think anyone professionally has to be willing to

722
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: do that. And I think no one is better than

723
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: pivoting when they have to pivot than how he Now,

724
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: he's intense. He you know, he's he's on and he'd

725
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: be the first to tell you that all the time.

726
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: Like he is not some guy chilling with his feet up,

727
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: fucking around like it's it's an intense environment, which is

728
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: very I would say symbolic of the city he's in.

729
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: It's not an easy place to work. But even when

730
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: they're I would say even more so when they're having success,

731
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: he's just he's an intense guy. And it was It

732
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: was an incredible experience for me just to see something

733
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: that I never would have got to see in terms

734
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: of being around someone who is I would say, is driven,

735
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: intellectually driven and thinks just kind of differently than everyone else.

736
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: But also it's it's football, so I mean, how different

737
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: can you be? Like everyone wants good players, but there's

738
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: no like, hey, we're cool, now, we're good. Roster's good

739
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: Like the Eagles. A day you look at their roster,

740
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: it's pretty good, I'll promise you. Internally, they're not just

741
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: hanging out like we're set. Let's just let's just kind

742
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: of mail it in till summer break. Like no, it

743
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: is a high stress environment once I left the Eagles

744
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: is like, fuck, I can't do anything. Put me in

745
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: the boiler room. I'll be good to go. Where's Ben Affleck?

746
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm ready to rock. With NIL deals becoming the next

747
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: method of recruiting players, do you think the once upon

748
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: a time colleges will start to compete again for national

749
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: championships or even make it into the playoffs. Think of Nebraska,

750
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: who is big time money and a massive following, but

751
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: hasn't had success in twenty plus years. They did go

752
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: to the conference championship in Nadama consus here back in

753
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: the nineties, Nebraska was always the top program and even

754
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: receive back to back national championships. Could nil bring them

755
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: back to obscurity? Well, I think a program like that.

756
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: Let's use them as an example because obviously you did.

757
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: They're in the Big Ten, so they're competing against You

758
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: could argue that Ohio State. I guess Texas, maybe A

759
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: and M, but Ohio State can compete with anyone. Financially.

760
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: I think they cut ten million dollars worth of checks

761
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: to get the top transfer guys this offseason. So that's

762
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: like the equivalent of going up against like Appler, Google,

763
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: So like they have more money than you, and because

764
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: of their success, they're unwilling or they're not unwilling to

765
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: like ever, they don't even ask questions like do you

766
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: need this guy, let's do it, you need this coach,

767
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: let's do it. You need this player? How much he cost?

768
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: And then you get Michigan. Now with their most recent success,

769
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: they're even going to be more aggressive. You add Oregon,

770
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: who has a massive war chest of money, usc same thing.

771
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: How can you compete against them? Well, the only way

772
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: because you're not gonna be able to buy players like

773
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: them consistently. I know you got Riola and reports are

774
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: that you gave him millions of dollars his dad played there.

775
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: Like if Riola's dad had played at Florida or at

776
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: Utah or at Oregon, would he be at Nebraska? Probably

777
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: not someone else. They would have accepted someone else's money.

778
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: And I don't blame them for being aggressive with a

779
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: guy just because they had a connection, But on the whole,

780
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get that level of talent, so you

781
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: need to shorten the gap with the coach. The reason

782
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: Utah these last like five years has been so freaking competitive,

783
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: they're not gonna have the nil money of USC, Oregon

784
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: or Washington. They're just not. But their coach is elite.

785
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: So if Matt Rule is a high end college football coach,

786
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: you can make the playoffs. And if Riola hits, If

787
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: Riola hits, and Rule is everything we build him to

788
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: be as a college coach, you're gonna be good. I

789
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna be Ohio State, LSU, Bama, Georgia,

790
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: what Texas is gonna Texas is gonna benefit the most

791
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: from this money, Oregon. But can you be like the

792
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: ninth seed and win a playoff game which would be

793
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: a massive, massive success. Hell yeah, I grew up on

794
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: Tommy Frazier and Lawrence Phillips, those teams. Those late You're

795
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: like ninety five ninety six Nebraska teams. The shit huge

796
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs fan here and Rashid Rice news has been a

797
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: huge kick in the you know what to this offseason.

798
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: I know you can't monitor their players twenty four to seven,

799
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: but what can teams do to try and make sure

800
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: this stuff doesn't happen? Is there some kind of mentoring

801
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,879
Speaker 1: or advisement teams offer, especially with these young guys who

802
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: become rich very quickly. These teams invest so much money

803
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: in the league as a whole to mentor to talk

804
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: to these players. Think about the money the Chiefs have

805
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 1: invested in guys like Mahomes and Kelsey and Justin Reid

806
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: and those type guys on their team that are around

807
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: these type guys every day during the season, telling them

808
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: how to act, what to do right, how to be

809
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: a pro, what to avoid. Eventually, in the real world,

810
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: you can't hold everyone's hand, and once the offseason starts,

811
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: because of the CBA agreement, he's free to do whatever

812
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: the fuck he wants. So you don't think that the team,

813
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: the players, like they talk about this stuff NonStop. But

814
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: once it's February, March, April, May until voluntary OTAs, now

815
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: Rice can come back. I think the Chiefs told him

816
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: not to come back, you know, to get a stuff

817
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: in order. But like, what could they have done when

818
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: he's got seven eight buddies, they're all drunk and high

819
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: and they're renting Lamborghinis, Like he has the funds to

820
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: do that. It's a maturity thing. Now. They also know

821
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: what they were getting when they drafted the guy. He

822
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: had red flags coming out of college. Obviously, when he's

823
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: around the team, no issues. And in college you're around

824
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: the team eleven and a half months a year, you're

825
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: never out of their sight, and the pros you're not.

826
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 1: This is the big leagues. You're grown up with lots

827
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: of money now, so you either understand the opportunity you

828
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: have or you potentially throw it away, like it looks

829
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 1: like this guy's doing because he has the incident where

830
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: he leaves the scene, which he doesn't take you know,

831
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: a rocket scientist to figure out. Why do you think

832
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: he left the scene. Why do you think It's not

833
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: very hard to figure out, which, for his sake, probably

834
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: the you know, in a weird way. Thank god no

835
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: one got injured. Right thing to do, because it would

836
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: have been way worse. And then this issue with hitting

837
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: someone at a club, like it does show you when

838
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: you deal with immature individuals. I hate tell him like,

839
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be party, and you shouldn't be this, do

840
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: whatever the hell you want to do. This is America.

841
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: I've never been into telling others what to do at

842
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: any point in time in my adult life. But like,

843
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: once you get in trouble with the the hit and

844
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 1: run situation, shouldn't you probably lay low I'm not saying

845
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: you can't hang out with some buddies, shouldn't be at

846
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: the club, because let's face it, once you start consistently

847
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: going out after that incident, you become even more of

848
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: a target. And for you to have an altercation after

849
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: that situation, like there's a line of you know, immaturity,

850
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: got some stuff to work on it, and you're just

851
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: a fucking moron and you're becoming a major headache. The

852
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: problem is in pro sports, he is talented, and when

853
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: your talent outweighs your problems, you figure out ways to

854
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: get around it. You could argue at this point in time,

855
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: his talent and his problems are starting to see ey'd eye,

856
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: not like this guy's Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, ain't Tyreek Hill,

857
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 1: good young player, winning player. But those two incidents in

858
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: a short period of time for a team that plans

859
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: on winning the Super Bowl every year, full of high

860
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,240
Speaker 1: character superstars, I just think you get to a point

861
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: like you just can't hold their hand. You can't mandate

862
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: that they stay in Kansas City. You can't mandate this

863
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 1: is a business, like there are unions involved. And here's

864
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: the thing. Most guys can handle themselves and listen, we're

865
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: all gonna make a mistake as a young person if

866
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: we got a lot of money and we're drinking, Like, yeah,

867
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna do some things you regret. But there's a

868
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: fine line of you know, I wish I could have

869
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: the last night back and the things that he's doing,

870
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: but there's only so much Andy Reid the Chiefs can do.

871
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: I'm a Bears fan living in the Carolinas, creating quite

872
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: an interesting dynamic these days when I hit up local

873
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: sports bars. Haven't heard you address the fields at kick

874
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: returner rumors? I still root for fields from Afar for

875
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: the remainder of his career. Is there any legitimacy to

876
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: the dynamic ball carrying quarterbacks frequently serving the returnal role

877
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: given the approved kickoff formation. I talked about it yesterday

878
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: on the mailbag. I saw Sean Payton discussing how explosive

879
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: this new kickoff rule is gonna be, Like there are

880
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: gonna be fireworks, there are gonna be a lot of touchdowns.

881
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: And if you just think at it from a basic

882
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: football standpoint, like why do most runs not go for

883
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: fifty sixty seventy yards? It's really twofold. Most running backs

884
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: don't have elite high end speed, so they can't run

885
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: away from people like a Tyreek kill. But you also

886
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: have defenders on every level, and unlike a pass where

887
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: if I throw a go route, if he doesn't have

888
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: safety help, it's basically a one on one situation. If

889
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: that guy falls, if that guy misjudges his jump, whatever,

890
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: It's very easy for big explosive plays to happen on

891
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: pass plays. In the run game, there's a reason an

892
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: eight or ten yard run is considered a long run

893
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 1: cause you have to go by two levels of the defense.

894
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: You get the defensive line the line of scrimmage, and

895
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: then you have two to three and a half depending

896
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: on how you play, the safety linebackers, and you got

897
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: to get by those guys. For the defensive guys a

898
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: safety or a corner to make the tackle and for

899
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: you to have a long, long run, you basically now

900
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: it might be to a left or right so you're

901
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: not taken out, you know, running by the entire team,

902
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: but you're running by a lot of guys. They're getting blocked,

903
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: you're avoiding them. This new kickoff return, if you hit

904
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: a hole, you're like once you get past the defensive guys,

905
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: you're gone. I wonder if some of these teams, you know,

906
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: the guys are all lined up on the on whatever

907
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: the yard line is, you know, five yards apart, if

908
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have two or three guys immediately drop back,

909
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: you know, basically turn into like a safety and backpedal.

910
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: So if there is a situation where the guy breaks out,

911
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: because if he misses the first line of defense, if

912
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: everyone's going forward, he's gone. So when that rumor about

913
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: justin fields, it wasn't a rumor that Jalen Warrens said

914
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: it on Cam Hayward's podcast Multiple time guests of this show,

915
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: Cam Hayward, that is Walter Payton Man of the Year.

916
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: So they brought it up, and I thought, well, it

917
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: sounds a little crazy, But when you factor in fields,

918
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: his skill set, elite speed in the open field, well,

919
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: what if he misses that first line of defense, he'd

920
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: be gone. Kicker ain't making that tackle in the open field.

921
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: So I do wonder if there's a little validity to it.

922
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: Now there's the element of he's your backup quarterback. If

923
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: Russell got hurt. What if he got hurt on that play?

924
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 1: So I'm not expecting it, and isn't Cordell Patterson now

925
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: on the Steelers, But that play is gonna be fascinating.

926
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna get legit fireworks. Was wondering if you've ever

927
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: watched Australian Football AFL before, love to hear your take.

928
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: You know, I have not. Is that considered rugby or

929
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: is that considered football? Or is that soccer? I don't know, Yeah,

930
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: I have not. Gonna want to get it in the mailbag,

931
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: low the pod, especially random moments of life advice, and

932
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: my question is gonna be about today. I'm twenty three,

933
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: just graduated college in December, and currently making about forty

934
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year in my lab position. I don't

935
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: have any real responsibilities yet beyond rent and my pets.

936
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: The job is cool and holds me over, but beyond money,

937
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: I feel really no purpose in trying to move up

938
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: in this field. I've started making food content recently and

939
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get a bit of traction there. What's

940
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: a good point to dive headfirst into the passionate work

941
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 1: and throw the responsible moves out the window. Also bring

942
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: back share it with your friends, share it with your enemies. Uh,

943
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: I would say, you're twenty three years old, so your

944
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: food content if it I'm just gonna assume even if

945
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: you're getting traction in terms of people watching, if you're

946
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 1: not making any money on that, it would be hard

947
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: to just go all in on that immediately, Like you

948
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: do need to pay for rent. I would try to

949
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: find a way with your current job to spend even

950
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: more time doing what you're doing, which might entail some sacrifice,

951
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: doing it at night, doing it on the weekends, and

952
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: over a twelve month period, see if you can build

953
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: it up where it's like, yeah, I might be able

954
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: to make some money on doing this before you just

955
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: jump in. So basically, treat like you have two jobs,

956
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: which is a lot of time. But if you just

957
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: quit your job and do this, it can be discouraging.

958
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: If you're not making any money, then all of a sudden,

959
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: you're in a position where you're backs against the wall.

960
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: So can you do the job you're doing If you're

961
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: going through the motions and just work on your other

962
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: kind of side project in your head the majority of

963
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: time and when you're at home or on the weekends

964
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: or whenever your free time is just double down on that.

965
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: And then the moment that if you're able to generate

966
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: enough money where it's like, ah, I might be able

967
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 1: to at least just survive off this, quit the other job,

968
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: and go all in. But now you could take just

969
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: jump into the deep end, just quit and put all

970
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: your chips on the table. But you could be in

971
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: a position where if you don't have any help from anybody,

972
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: you can't pay rent or don't have any food. So

973
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: if you just need to survive in the short term,

974
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: use the job you currently have to survive, and put

975
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: all your effort and energy into your passion. Because I

976
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 1: was actually at dinner with some of my girl's friends

977
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: and this one girl who it just crushes it, I guess,

978
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean, makes hundreds of thousands of dollars at her job.

979
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: She's kind of bored, doesn't even like it, but she's

980
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: good at it and she makes a lot of money,

981
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: but her passion is something else. And all throughout dinner

982
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: she kept talking about what she loves to do, which

983
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: she was a big foodie and she wanted to open

984
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: a restaurant and she's just so into it, and I

985
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: kind of said it, but also, it's not really my place.

986
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't know these people like, why don't you just

987
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: do it? And she was in a position where she

988
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: had enough save, like she could easily just go all in,

989
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: and she's You get to a point and she's this

990
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: girl's probably in her early thirties. You start making enough

991
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: money in a profession that you don't care about that much,

992
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: they kind of get you with the I don't know

993
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: if it's quite golden handcuffs, because she's not making millions,

994
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: but she's making enough where it's hard to leave that job.

995
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden she'd go another ten

996
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: twenty years and never make that plunge, and all of

997
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: a sudden, the thing she loves most she never tried.

998
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: Where she's in the position now like you could kind

999
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: of do it right now. And I just see some

1000
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: of these people that get too far past and never

1001
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: give what they really wanted to do a try. And

1002
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: I've been very fortunate that I just did it from

1003
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: the jump right. But I didn't make any money I made.

1004
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: I made none in my twenties enough to survive eat.

1005
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: But I never made more than fifty thousand dollars before

1006
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: I was thirty years old. Some years wasn't even close,

1007
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: and the equivalent of that would probably be like sixty

1008
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: seventy now, you know in bigger cities where you know

1009
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: you barely heads above water. Now I was single, it

1010
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: didn't have any responsibilities, but I didn't have any other

1011
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: options because I knew that one I didn't, I couldn't.

1012
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: I don't have the energy to do something I don't like.

1013
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: And I knew that really early on in life. It's

1014
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: probably the one of my greatest qualities. When I don't

1015
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: have any energy to do it, I don't care how

1016
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: much money. I just won't be interested and I just

1017
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: won't pay attention. I actually knew that from school. Like

1018
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: I never paid attention in school. It bored me, so

1019
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: you just It's why my advice always is, when you

1020
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: like something and are passionate about it, it's so much

1021
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: easier to work. It's what I mean. I was thinking

1022
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: when she was talking about how she was hesitant to

1023
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: make the plunge. I'm like, you don't understand. It'll be

1024
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: so much easier for you to work a seventy eighty

1025
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: hour week doing what you love because it won't feel

1026
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: like work. Now. Eventually, I always say, work no matter

1027
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: how much you love it feels like work because it

1028
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: just becomes part of your routine. But early on, when

1029
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: you have to grind the hardest, it's easier to go

1030
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: above and beyond for less money when you love what

1031
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: you're doing. And I think it gets very very difficult

1032
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 1: for people to transition because the longer you go, maybe

1033
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: the more money you get, the more responsibilities you have,

1034
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: you get married, you have children, you buy a house,

1035
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: you just it's harder to pivot. And most people are

1036
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: not just like free wheeling unscared when it comes to

1037
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: certain things. The majority of people are hesitant, So you

1038
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 1: gotta It's why any young person that hits me, and

1039
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: I've tried to respond to a lot of you guys,

1040
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: it's so much easier to try things and take big

1041
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: swings and do things that you like doing when you're young,

1042
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: because if you want to make the transition as you

1043
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 1: get older, it's very very hard to pivot when you

1044
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: got two kids and you're dependent on the money and

1045
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: your mortgage just kind of big, and you know you

1046
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: got a country club membership, or you got a couple

1047
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: of car payments or whatever's going on. You want to

1048
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: send your kids at private school, like real life responsibility.

1049
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: I want to apologize for the long winded DM. I

1050
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 1: also have two questions I would like to run by you.

1051
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: I've been listening to Colin for years and I've enjoyed

1052
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: hearing your appearances. When I stumbled upon your podcast, I

1053
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: instantly fell in love. Anyway, here's my question. I'm from

1054
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: the Bay Area in northern California. Grew up Aniner fan,

1055
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: but fell in love with Alex Smith's quarterback skills and

1056
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: I followed him to the Chiefs and I have been

1057
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: a Chiefs fan ever since. At first, I was excited

1058
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: about the Xavier Worthy pick, but after listening to various

1059
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: sport shows, I'm hearing he has struggled with drops. I

1060
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: think he broke his hand so he played through like

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Speaker 1: the injury after last year struggles with the wide receiver

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Speaker 1: room of dropping balls. Should we be concerned about this

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Speaker 1: being an issue worthy or do you believe Andy will

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Speaker 1: be able to fix it. I heard someone say his

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Speaker 1: drop rate relative to the other receivers was actually one

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Speaker 1: of the best. I would not be that worried. I

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Speaker 1: think they feel pretty confident. I know for a fact

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Speaker 1: because I was texting the room after they took it.

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Speaker 1: I think they liked this guy a lot, and they

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Speaker 1: see a similar skill set, not in Tyreek but in DeShawn,

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Speaker 1: so I would be excited. I began playing golf with

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Speaker 1: my dad a few years ago. We now play golf

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Speaker 1: every week together, sometimes multiple times a week if we can.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like you two are living well. I recently have

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Speaker 1: been struggling with making consistent contact with my driver off

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Speaker 1: the tee. I've been playing with the idea of entering

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Speaker 1: a local tournament, but I won't feel confident until I

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Speaker 1: get this part of my game fixed. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any tips for suggestions for making constant good contact. If

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Speaker 1: I knew how to make consistent good contact with the driver,

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Speaker 1: I would retire from this podcast, start a YouTube channel,

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01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: and be a multimillionaire. So no, I think, welcome to golf.

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Speaker 1: It's by far something every human being, even the pros,

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01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: all have in common struggling off the tea. Now. Luckily

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01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: with the equipment modern day equipment, it's never been easier

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01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: when you hit it well. But let's face it, we

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01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: all want to swing a little harder with our driver.

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Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, you know you're in a

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01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: bush with three rattlesnakes and a tree is hanging over you.

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01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: It's like, good luck getting out of there, big fan question,

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01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: does to us stare down as primary target, the worst

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Speaker 1: you've ever seen? Some surprise he doesn't have more interceptions? Well,

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Speaker 1: they have pretty elite receivers. I mean Tyreek's, I mean

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Speaker 1: one of the greatest receivers I've ever seen in my

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01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: NFL watching life for thirty plus years. And Waddle is

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01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: a young star. So and their offensive coordinator is elite.

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Speaker 1: I think two. His downfall, honestly, is pretty simple. He

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01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: has an average arm. He's a warm weather quarterback. He's

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Speaker 1: just gonna struggle in the cold. He's just gonna struggle

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Speaker 1: in the cold. And he's not very mobile. So he's

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01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: a small pocket quarterback who's not a very good athlete

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01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: relative to NFL quarterbacks. He's much closer like Jared Goff

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01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: movement wise than he is Mahomes. But Jared Goff's got

1104
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 1: him by several inches and can see over the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Like it's kind of short. I feel like I'm a hater.

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01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: I like the guy, I admire him as a person,

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01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: just when it comes to paying quarterbacks top dollars, I

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01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: just I couldn't do it. But it's like, I'm not

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01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: rooting against the guy. I just think his skill set

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01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: in that conference in cold weather cities, which the AFC

1111
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: is full of, Kansas City, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Buffalo,

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01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean, how fuck you beating those teams? Hit? You're

1113
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: not okay when on this mail bag. The physicality comparison

1114
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: for the NBA and NFL is like boxing in UFC.

1115
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 1: Once a boxer gets smacked with a leg kick, they

1116
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: will crumble and start crying immediately because they are just

1117
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: not hit like that, not calloused up like that. When

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Speaker 1: an NBA player gets hit sticked in the middle of

1119
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Speaker 1: the field, they will walk out of the stadium, not

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Speaker 1: even the sideline, far away from the action if they

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Speaker 1: could even walk. The dumbest part about the rum is

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Speaker 1: no one with a brain would argue that they don't

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Speaker 1: have NFL athletes or if guys just quit playing basketball tomorrow,

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01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: a large percentage of the league NFL teams wouldn't work out,

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01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 1: and there would be some NFL teams would immediately sign.

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Speaker 1: If Zion Williamson just said I'm done with the NBA,

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Speaker 1: I quit I want to play football, every team in

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Speaker 1: the league would try to sign Zion to like the

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Speaker 1: equivalent of a you know, a future practice squad, bare

1130
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: minimum contract, and then he would eventually have to play football.

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Speaker 1: He has the athleticism and the strength and the explosion,

1132
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Speaker 1: but could he play tyrese MAXI. I mean you go

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Speaker 1: around the league, there're a lot could they play every

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Speaker 1: single day in practice, let alone in the games football?

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Speaker 1: This is not basketball. You don't just play games like

1136
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Speaker 1: you know Lebron's teams, they don't practice. They just hoop baseball.

1137
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: You just show up and play every day. The NFL

1138
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: is the opposite. Monday, come in for film, get a workout,

1139
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: get your rehab, Tuesday, off day, Wednesday, show up, team

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01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 1: meetings seven forty five or eight, then the meetings, then

1141
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: to walk through, then to lunch, then to practice. Maybe

1142
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: you practice in the morning. These are paths. Thursday, you

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Speaker 1: do it again, Friday, you do it again. Saturday, if

1144
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 1: it's on the road, show up early, breakfast, meetings, walk

1145
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: through playing, get their meetings, walk through meetings, night, wake up,

1146
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: go play. You play once a week. So I just

1147
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: think the mentality of basketball, guys, it just it's impossible

1148
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: to even you don't just get to show up and

1149
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: play like in basketball or baseball. That's not how it works.

1150
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: You basically practice all off sea, then all training camp

1151
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: to just get ready for week one spring training. They

1152
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: have like three days of practice and they start playing games.

1153
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: They basically play games for nine months or eight months

1154
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: or whatever. Basketball, same thing. A couple of practices, then

1155
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: you start playing games and you're just off. Football is

1156
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:26,959
Speaker 1: all about practice, and then, like you said, the physicality,

1157
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: you can say, oh, the games, it's way different than

1158
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: the eighties and the set we had is have Fred

1159
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: Warner hit, you have Miles Garrett hit. You have Jalen

1160
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: Ramsey tackle you in the open field, have Jalen Carter

1161
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Speaker 1: chase you down. Say that feels that's one play, got

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Speaker 1: fifty more buckle up. Just it's it's not as simple.

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Speaker 1: Well it's like I can just play. It's not how

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Speaker 1: football works. It's by far the most complex game. Let's

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Speaker 1: face it, Basketball is not that complex. Neither's baseball. Relative

1166
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: to football, which is all about practice, practice, prating, putting plays,

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01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: putting plays, I'm not even factoring in. Then you've got

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Speaker 1: to mentally and physically be able to handle it. In basketball,

1169
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Speaker 1: like do we run picking rolls or we weren't run motions?

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Speaker 1: Where's my screen coming? Football? There's like seven checks of

1171
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage in the NFL. Could they even

1172
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Speaker 1: handle it? Some of these guys would be overwhelmed. Football

1173
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: guys are overwhelmed. It's just it was an exhausting conversation.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening the volume