1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to this week episode of the PhD podcast. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: It's your girl, Ebene, and this week we're gonna be 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: talking on a very important topic that that I think 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't talk about. UM as 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: you know, I don't introduce my guests. All of my 6 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: guests are not on this, So let's get right into it. 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Let's go. I'm ready. Okay, So it's gonna be random 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: as hell, but it has a lot to do it 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: just bear with me. I got so the other day 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: I was watching both Thugs and Harmony UM on song 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: so on sung it's pretty much for those who don't 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: know what it is, it's pretty much like a history 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: of the person's life and what they went through and 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: how they came to where they are and the person 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: that they are as far as the celebrity and on 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: how they overcame something struggles and all this other stuff. Right, So, 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: as I was watching both Thus and Harmony, I was 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: just like, jeez, like, it's just so crazy how in 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: our community, like we are so traumatized at such a 20 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: young age and we just it's like we we cope 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: with it, like and not. No, I'm not gonna say 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: we cope with it. We just we keep it going, like, 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: we keep pushing like And I was just thinking, like, 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: don if you listen to all these songs that calog 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: it's just because just feel their pain. I guess when 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: I was a kid, I never really understood it because 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 1: some of the they were talking about was, um, they 28 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: they went through when they was an adult. That now 29 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 1: I can relate to. Yeah, but it's just said, how 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: like your childhood can really affect your adulthood and things 31 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: that you do in your adulthood is based off the 32 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: things that you went through your in your childhood. So 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: how has trauma from your childhood affected your adulthood? Oh? Wow, 34 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: I mean that's a load of question. So I definitely 35 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: I agree with you on what you just said, and 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: I just want to comment on that for a minute. Um, 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: I definitely through all of the different trials and tribulations 38 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: that I've been through, I think the best things that 39 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: I've done to get therapy and we can talk about 40 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: that later, but through all of that, UM that my 41 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: major take way is that you know, as a black woman, UM, 42 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: we are generation generation generationally taught to to not talk 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: about our problems and that dates back to you know, 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: as far as slavery, you know what I mean, but 45 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: it it really is just the fact that we endored 46 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: so much as the people that would have broken anybody else. 47 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: And one of the ways that we got through it 48 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: is just to keep pushing because at that time, we 49 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: couldn't change our circumstances. And I think that that's carried 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: down throughout you know, centuries, and we're at a good 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: place now where we are free to talk about and 52 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: it's a little bit more accepted to talk about trauma 53 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: and you know, mental illness or just mental awareness. And 54 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: in total, so I'm so glad that we're doing this podcast. Um, okay, 55 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: so childhood. No, I'm excited too, because I feel like 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: you really can't. A lot of people can't really like 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: talk about certain things that goes on what their li 58 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: because they're afraid of people gonna judge them for your 59 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: people are gonna understand. But just like, I didn't realize 60 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: that I was on to my own trauma until my 61 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: grandmother passed away, and that's when everything that came to 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: a head and I was like, oh my god, I'm 63 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: going crazy because I never experienced that before. That was 64 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: like going through trauma or like have an anxiety, Like 65 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: it's so aggressive, like it just comes out of nowhere 66 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: and you'd just be like and I'm not even oh, 67 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: I feel like it's always been there. It's just that 68 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: trigger it happens. Yeah. So, UM, I'll just talked a 69 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: little bit about UM as conspicuously as I can. I'll 70 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about like, you know, my background 71 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: and just some of the things that I feel like 72 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: really made an impact. So. UM, I came from, you know, 73 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: a fairly good home. My parents were married when they 74 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: had me and my sisters, and UM, I actually went 75 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: to private school, so I was like the only black 76 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: girl in my class. Um, like a very white school. Um. 77 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: The whole school had like five hundred students, and those 78 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: five hundreds they were like for um, students of any color. Um. I. 79 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: But I grew up in like a black church. You know. 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: My parents were definitely like you know, they're from a 81 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: black neighborhood. So it's not like I didn't have that outside, 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: but my day to day was definitely you know, not minority. UM. 83 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: My parents got divorced UM when I was in high school, 84 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: but they had not really been together been together for 85 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: a long time, so like sleeping in the same bed 86 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: or you know, doing family activities together that had not 87 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: been uh their reality for probably about seven years leading 88 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: up to the divorce. UM. Typical thing. They stayed together 89 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: for the kids. UM. And then both of my parents worked, 90 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: so that's typical to My mom had a corporate job, 91 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: worked very very hard, was very successful. My dad also 92 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: had a very very prestigious job and also UM taught 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: too as like a side hustle, so he definitely loved 94 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: to work. UM. I'm a middle child, so UM, I 95 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: think that I'm very independent, you know. UM, I'm independent 96 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: in every way, Like I get myself out of situations. 97 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: I enjoy working. I can provide for everybody else, you know. 98 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: So I feel like it has a lot to do 99 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: with the fact that I wasn't the oldest, so I 100 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: didn't get showered with you know, the first child UM syndrome. 101 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: And then I'm not the baby, so I wasn't overly 102 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: taken care of because I was the youngest of the 103 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: last child. UM. So that plays a lot into things. UM. 104 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: I when I was younger, UM, so around like between 105 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: the ages of like four and six or seven, UM, 106 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time with I had two 107 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: sets of grandparents at the time, but one set of 108 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: grandparents and I won't say all which side, um, and 109 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: they would take care of uh, me and my sister, 110 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: but it felt like, and I don't know why, but 111 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: a lot of times that it was just me, um 112 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: there my younger sister wasn't born yet, um, while my 113 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: parents were working and it was primarily over the summertime. 114 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: So um that those grandparents that took care of me 115 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: that I'm referring to now, um weren't the ones that 116 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: I was closest to. So it was definitely a little bit. 117 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: Even as a child, I remember being kind of awkward 118 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: being there because we didn't keep relationship very like I 119 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: didn't know how to act, I didn't know how to 120 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: behave So it's really, you know, just me sitting there 121 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: watching TV and I you know, as a child too, 122 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: I just remember like the energy of that house is 123 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: not being okay, Like I knew something was wrong, you 124 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean? So really I just wanted to 125 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: be in the living room, not to cut you off. 126 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: Isn't like what are You're a kid and you know 127 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: something that right, but you just don't know what it 128 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: is or you something right, but you just you can't 129 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: put a word to it. You know, we look back 130 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: on you like this, it was this, yeah, like as 131 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: kids like I feel like we're so new to the 132 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: world and we haven't really been as condition. There's adults 133 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: that are our intuition and energy is as highest it 134 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: could be as a child, and I don't think we 135 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: realized that. You know, to me, but a child can 136 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: very easily see lightness persons jar gage um. And so 137 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: I did not enjoy being there all, but it was 138 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: what it was. And because I, you know, was even 139 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: at that age, a very independent child, I didn't know 140 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: how to articulate or even if I could articulate to 141 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: my parents that I didn't want to be there. I 142 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: just thought, you do what your parents tell you to do. UM. 143 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: So as far as like UM, like very specific events 144 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: that happened, a lot of it's blacked out UM for me, 145 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's like, um like a defense mechanism, 146 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: you like a coping mechanism, I guess. UM. So, I 147 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: don't remember a lot of the details, but again, like 148 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: I said, I remember being uncomfortable, and I remember times 149 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: where my grandfather would ask me to come to. He 150 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: had like a it was a three bedroom house, and 151 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: one of the rooms he had converted into an office, 152 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: and so I often remember him asking me to come 153 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: back there with him, and it felt like I shouldn't 154 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: be back there, you know what I'm saying. And I 155 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: didn't understand when my grandmother wasn't with us, and I 156 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: didn't understand why she didn't tell me I couldn't go, 157 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: because it's like I knew that she knew, and I 158 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: knew that I shouldn't be back there, And I remember 159 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: him doing things to try to make me feel comfortable 160 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: because it was, you know, I know, it was obvious 161 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: that I wasn't um. So he liked to draw, and 162 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: so he would draw like he loved to draw a Popeye, um, 163 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: and so he would like draw a Popeye and try 164 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: to put his Popeye voice on and like try to 165 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: like laxe. But it made me feel even worse, you 166 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: know what I mean, because then he's putting on this 167 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: character and I'm not comfortable with the real hand. So 168 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 1: I don't know the character right right right if I 169 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: kind of weird anywhere you do, I don't really get 170 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: that man. So M I remember just like spending a 171 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: lot of time like hiding. There was a like a 172 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: leather recliner chair, brown leather reclinner chair in there, and 173 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: I remember like spending a lot of time hiding behind 174 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: that chair as he's like talking to me and trying 175 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: to get me to come out and show me these pictures. 176 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: And I felt safe behind that chair. And so you know, 177 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: I was forced to go there a lot of years. 178 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: Um And like I said, didn't really know how to 179 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: explain that alsaid was a problem child in school, So 180 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: I didn't really feel like I had like the credibility 181 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: to complain about anything either, because I constantly But do 182 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: you think he was a problem child before after things 183 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: were being done happened until you're like when you was 184 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: experience certain things. I think I was always an overactive 185 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: child that needed more attention than I got, you know 186 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Because it wasn't that I wasn't smart. 187 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: It was that I just acted out, I talked, I 188 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: would do bad things so I could get attention, you know, 189 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: And I always was in some ship And I feel 190 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: like it literally was because you know, my parents worked very, 191 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: very hard, they had three kids, and I was a 192 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: less needy child, so I just kind of went with 193 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: the flow or whatever. So we'll fast forward to some 194 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: years so we can really get into like, you know, 195 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: what happened in and how it impacted me. So fast 196 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: for some years, I'm in college, you know, I just 197 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: decided to go to a college at home, and um, 198 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: at that time, UM, you know, my grandparents are pretty aged. 199 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how old they are honestly, but they're 200 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, they're older. So they'd be helped like getting 201 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: groceries and stuff. And both sets of grandparents are still alive. 202 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: So one of my my mother ended up, um you know, 203 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: stepping in and taking care of those grandparents and so 204 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: I guess it's obvious now that those are the paternal ones, um, 205 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: just because she has a their heart and um, so 206 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: she was like taking them groceries, bringing in food or whatever, 207 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: and it at one point it just got to be 208 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: too overwhelming for her because those aren't her parents. She's 209 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: got her own parents and she don't even have a 210 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: good relationship with my dad. So it was like, yeah, 211 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm not facing this so exactly. So when she you know, 212 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: took I guess the last meal little as set of 213 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: groceries over there and then you know, to let them 214 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: know to like this is it. Um, my grandmother got 215 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: nuts and like went off and you know, started just 216 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: like saying all this stuff to her and about how 217 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: she's evil and blah blah blah. And one of the 218 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: things that she said was that's why I let my 219 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: husband molest your daughter years god. So yeah, yeah, so 220 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: I was there. You know, I'm hearing this from my 221 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: mom or whatever. But you know, somebody mama want to 222 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: hear that. Man no, and that she brought it up 223 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: like that. It was just vindictive, you know what really 224 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: bothers me. Like even you're just saying that, it's like 225 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of like making me teario because it's just 226 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: like I don't understand how people don't protect hiss like 227 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: I feel like how much when I was going up, 228 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: Like my mother was an alcoholic, my father was addicted 229 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: to drugs. My mother was very physical and emotionally and 230 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: verbal abuse of towards me. So I just don't understand 231 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: how people live things happen who cannot defend themselves, who 232 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: don't know how to attend apulate the things that's happening 233 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: to them, and you you just sit back and let 234 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: that happen, Like how evil could you be? And I 235 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: also feel like people think because maybe it happen to them, 236 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: that it's okay that it's happened to somebody because they survived. 237 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: But it's like, but I do not want to change that, right, 238 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: But it's so disgusting to me, Like, oh, you know, 239 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: and this is my overly large heart that gets me 240 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: in trouble often. Um. But I also feel like people, 241 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: like everybody has like some type of trauma issue that 242 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: they've been through, and I feel like a lot of 243 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: people don't heal and hurt people hurt people, you know 244 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. So like, at the same time, like 245 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: her people find hurt people, they find her people to 246 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: lash onto. Right. Yeah, So with that being said, she's 247 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: a sick person. Some of the other stuff that she said, um, 248 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: in addition to airing all my business, was that she is, 249 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: um you know, she's been abused by him, you know, 250 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: him being her husband. She's been shot at by him. 251 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know if it was a matter of 252 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,119 Speaker 1: her being afraid of him. Um, he was very controlling. 253 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: She couldn't like she never learned how to drive, so 254 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: the only time she could leave the house was if 255 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: he took her somewhere, those types of things. So I 256 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: don't know if that's what it was, but even if 257 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: it is, like you should have had your eye on 258 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: that child at all times and make sure that they 259 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: did not become a victim to what you're you know, 260 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: suffering from to me in my eyes. But anyway, so 261 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: my mom leaves, um, and of course she actually you know, 262 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: she didn't call me immediately because again, like we didn't 263 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: have that type type close knit relationship, you know what 264 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean, where like we can talk about anything that's 265 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: like been built over like recent years. Um. So again 266 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: this is in college. So she spent some time, I 267 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: guess like thinking about it and then caused me maybe 268 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: like a week after this happens, and basically just fought 269 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: out told me what she said it, asked me if 270 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: it wasn't true, I mean, if it was true. M 271 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, ship, you know what I mean. 272 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: I I know it was like you know, I mean 273 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: this a whole lot of emotions just came over me, 274 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: like embarrassment and denial and anger and and honestly, like 275 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: I had gone like fifteen or twenty years of my life. 276 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: I think that long. Yeah, about that long. I'm not 277 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: dealing with it, you know what I'm saying and and 278 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: suppressing it. So it's like, why I gotta deal with 279 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: this now. I was just prepared to go through the 280 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: rest of my life like none of this ever happened. Um. 281 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I told her, and this is the 282 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: God on the truth that I do know something happened 283 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: that scared me. Um. I knew that I was terrified 284 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: of that man. I knew that what he was doing 285 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,479 Speaker 1: was wrong. But I still to this day cannot program 286 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: the details, like I can't find the details of the 287 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: events because it happened. Yeah. I really think that mental 288 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: loss is a real part of trauma. Um. And so 289 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: I like, but I know that, you know, I know 290 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: what happened, you know, to me, and I just don't 291 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: know and how I know. Yeah. So with that being said, um, 292 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, that's what I told her, And she told 293 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: me that I need to tell my dad because those 294 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: are his parents. And so at this time, my dad 295 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: don't really have a relationship. He's you know, at this point, 296 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: remarried and you know, moved on with his life and 297 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: we very rarely talk unless it's like, hey, how are 298 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: you doing once every three or four months. So I'm like, 299 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't need to tell him, and she's like, no, 300 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: you need to tell him before I run up in 301 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: the house with a shotgun. So you tell him so 302 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: he can handle it. So yeah, so I called him. 303 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: You know, it's awkward, and actually no, he called me 304 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: because of the time that all this went on. It 305 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: was around Thanksgiving. But wait, how old? So when when 306 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: your grandmother told your mom how old? With grandma and 307 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: granddaddy because you said it was aged or were they like, like, 308 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: was he still able to say to defend himself for 309 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: to say he did, like he was probably like seventy. Okay, 310 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: he's still good. Yeah, he still hands he to Bill 311 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: catch them hands. So it's Thanksgiving and my dad sends 312 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: me a text message inviting me to their house for 313 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner, and before you know, I would try my 314 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: best to go to my mom's side of the family's 315 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: house and then stopped by his you know, just to 316 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: be keep things cop aesthetic. But you know, after that happened, 317 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm cool on them. I don't want 318 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: to even now the cats out of the bag. I 319 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: don't even need to put myself through any of this. Yeah, 320 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm good on them, like, don't want to see them 321 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: if somebody say something. So, you know, I told him 322 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: that I would let him know, and of course he 323 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: was like, what do you mean you letting me know 324 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: if you're coming? Um. So I just you know, built 325 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: up the courage called him and I was like, hey dad, 326 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: So I didn't say this is what happened. I said, 327 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: hey Dad, So mom went over blah blah blah blah, 328 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: this is what your mom told her. And he was like, 329 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: y'all are all liars. He was like, so are you 330 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: saying that this happened? And I was like, yes, it happened. 331 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: I don't believe that you're a liar. I can't believe 332 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: you would say that. That's sick. Why would I lie 333 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: about that? Right right? You? It's like if you think 334 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: that this makes me feel good, they have to talk 335 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: about this. This is embarrassing, you know. I mean like this, 336 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: this isn't This isn't this is not like something to 337 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: be proud of. This doesn't like this doesn't make you cool, 338 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 1: Like I don't want this to have happened to me, 339 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 1: Like why would I make this sh it up? So 340 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: you know, I had like dealt with years of disappointment 341 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: from him, you know, a typical black bad story in America. 342 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: So like I wasn't devastated by that, but I definitely 343 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: felt like I don't want to talk about it anymore 344 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: ever again with anybody, because I don't want to be 345 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: called a liar. And you know, I just I don't 346 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: want to be questioned or accused of making up a 347 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: story because I've already like I'm on the right path 348 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: to like have a good life and or not even that. 349 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: You don't want to be reliving through something when somebody, 350 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: when people are not even trying to hear right exactly right, 351 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: And like I said, well, I didn't want to talk 352 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: about anyway somebody else write it up. So it's like, no, 353 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do that. And I think that out 354 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: of many things from my childhood that have I've had 355 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,239 Speaker 1: to like work through, I think that from this is 356 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: the hardest thing that I struggled with in every area 357 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: of my life is being open um and being able 358 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: to talk about things and being and being able to 359 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: be vulnerable around people, because for so long I was 360 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: a child that was having to fight for my safety 361 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: on my own and not have anybody to trust to 362 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: talk about it with. So I think that that's shut down, 363 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: and you know, and even and even at times sometimes 364 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: I wonder like and I'm just keeping it one hundred, 365 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, I wonder like I know that somebody, some parents, 366 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: somebody looked at me. It was like, it's something wrong 367 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: with this child. She's not right, or she's fearful, she 368 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: doesn't want to go over there. But I think sometimes 369 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: we get so caught up in the day to day 370 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: of dropping the kid off, getting to work, being on time, 371 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: that we for to pay attention yes to the details. 372 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: And so in a sense, I also feel a little 373 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: bit you know, abandoned, I guess. Um So that's another 374 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: thing that I do have as well, Like in dating, 375 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: I can have like abandonment issues majorly um yeah, from 376 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: childhood too. So I definitely am struggling with that, like 377 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: letting my guard down, trusting people fully and trusting them 378 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: to like look out for me, because you know what 379 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: it is because I felt the same way. I felt 380 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: like if my own parents couldn't be there to protect me, 381 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: how can I move that You're going to be there. 382 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: And I've said that before I've said that before. I 383 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: have said, like, what makes me think that I would 384 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: ever find a good man if I can't even get 385 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: my dad to want to deal with me on a 386 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: day to day basis, Because there's definitely a time in 387 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: my life but I was like begging for my dad 388 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: to be around and he's just not what he wants 389 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: to do, you know what I mean. And so I 390 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: used to say that then I wasn't then deserving of 391 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: a husband or a good boyfriend because of that. But 392 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, growth I don't believe that anymore. But I 393 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: definitely feel you on that. And you know, it's so 394 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: crazy because it's like when I was going through the 395 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: things I was going to do it when I was 396 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: growing up as a child, and like I was just 397 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: going through so much, but like, like you said, we're 398 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: talking to a show face, keeping moving, how's muscle? And 399 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: eventually one of my childhood friends, her mom, was like, 400 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: are you okay? Like what's going on? I literally just 401 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: started like crying. Yeah, I'm like, damn, that's the first 402 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: time somebody ever asked me as a kid, was I okay? 403 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: M hmm. And it's just like it's just disgusting because 404 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I feel like people think that. I feel like people 405 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: think the kids don't have feelings like becau they're not 406 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna ever grow up, like I feel like a kid 407 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: kid and they're gonna keep it moving and they're gonna 408 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: be okay. But it's just like, like you never know 409 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: how you like to it turned out if certain things 410 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: that happened to you. Yeah, you know, I I agree 411 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: with that. I feel like everything happened like I felt 412 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: because I'm a spiritual person. So I feel like, you know, 413 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: guy's not gonna give you anything that you can't and 414 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: you have to you have to remember that when you're 415 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: going through the storm, Like you have got to remember that, 416 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: and that's what it's going to get you through and 417 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: get you through those learning lessons or whatever it is 418 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: you're supposed to gain from that experience in order to 419 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: get you to your destiny path. And so that that's key. 420 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: But I feel like people because I have a dog, right, 421 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: I have a new puppy, and so one of the 422 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: things that I have to strive for with my dog 423 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: is like my dog has a very specific personality. He's 424 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: still a you know, a living being, so I have 425 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 1: to respect him as an individual and know when he's 426 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: a little bit sad or a little bit angry, or 427 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: a little bit overly energetic, and not just be like 428 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 1: bad dog. You're bad trying to figure out what's going 429 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: on in his environment to make him feel like that 430 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: because he is an individual. And I know I'm like 431 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: an extreme dog mom, so that's why you are. But 432 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: that's so, but I feel like, um, you know, that's 433 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: what parents have to do, and I feel like it's hard. 434 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not a parent, so I don't want 435 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: to ever criticize or undermine what it takes to be one. 436 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: But I do feel like when you have kids, you 437 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: can't just like only focus on feeding, bathing them, and 438 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: disciplining them from the standpoint of like, yeah, you really 439 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: need to get to know your child and get to 440 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: know who they are and really like build on their 441 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, build their weaknesses and to strengths, and take 442 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: their strengths and capitalize on those and really push them 443 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: to you know, to utilize those for whatever their purpose is. 444 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: But I feel like we just get so busy, you 445 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, which is why I don't have kids. 446 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: Now I already know, so you touched on. So that 447 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: was one of my my next questions was how has trauma, 448 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: especially especially from your childhood, effective your adulthood. And you 449 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: mentioned you not mean not being open mm hmm. So 450 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: when you realize listen, if you meet somebody and or 451 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: even only have to be in the sexual relations, it 452 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: can be with a homegirl or something. Yeah, you noticed that, Like, 453 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: how do you realize that trauma starting to come back in? 454 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: Like I can't be open? Like how do you try 455 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: to like, no, stop, You're not gonna do this to 456 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: me again, you know I'm saying, like trying to block. Yeah. 457 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: So first and foremost I had to be aware that 458 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: it was happening. And I didn't know that until I 459 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: went to therapy, and um I literally like the therapist 460 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: I had knew, but my issues were very easily, you know, 461 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: very quickly, and which was amazing. Yeah, sometimes you got 462 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: to go through a lot. It's like you have for 463 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: a therapist, therapist that best at your needs. Yep, exactly. So, 464 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: like she knew that I had issues opening up, and 465 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: so she would start my sessions off being like, so, 466 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: what do you want to talk about today? And I'm 467 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: talking about no bs. That opener was the hardest thing 468 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: that I was going through for a very long time. 469 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: I would like break out in tears from having to 470 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: come up with it was just so difficult for me. 471 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: And you know, I knew I was there for an 472 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: hour and I just sometimes we sit there until I 473 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: like broke down, and then I would just and she 474 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: would be like, Okay, so we'll talk about the fact 475 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: that you're crying. Why are you crying? But so I 476 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: had to realize that that was an issue, and I 477 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: didn't finish my therapy so that I don't feel like 478 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: I feel really learned about how to open up. But 479 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: to your question, I actually noticed it this past weekend 480 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: because I went out with um some home girls and 481 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: one of them I've known for very you know, for 482 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: a lot of years. She's like a sister to me, 483 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: and the other is a new friend, and because there 484 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: was this new friend there, I felt so guarded, you 485 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And the ways that I noticed 486 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: it would be like, okay, so everybody was talking about 487 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: their dating situations, and it was like the way that 488 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: I would speak about my dating would I'm trying to 489 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: think of the word. It was just like so righteous, 490 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I didn't want to 491 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: get down to the dirty and be like, girl, yeah 492 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,239 Speaker 1: because you felt and yeah, and she was like, you know, 493 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: definitely being open about her stuff and talking about hers. 494 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: But I would only give the very like proper like 495 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: high level overview of my dating one. So do you 496 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: think that was your traumas creeping in or you think 497 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: that you just didn't feel comfortable just talking to her 498 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: about your business? I mean, I know her and see 499 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, it's not that was my first 500 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: time meeting her, and I do feel like, but did 501 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: you do you know? I mean I know you know her, 502 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: you know her for a couple of years, but do 503 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: you do you know her enough to be comfortable? We're like, 504 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: but girl, me and him did this? Did that? Um? 505 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: It depends, Like I think that she's the coolest person 506 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: and it's no like negative intent. It ain't no running 507 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: with my business. She's not that type of person. And 508 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: I do know that. So I think from a standpoint 509 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: of just being women and you know, enjoying ladies night 510 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: and being open because that's what we said we wanted 511 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: to do, I think that I failed there. Um, But 512 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: it wasn't even really just tell my business it's just 513 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: like I couldn't even get to the point of and 514 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: like I went on a date and I liked him, 515 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: Like it was just so like I was so rigid 516 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: with it, and then like on throughout the night. Um, 517 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: just like even we went to the club and like 518 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to get too loose in the 519 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: club because I was like I don't know her like that, 520 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's just like and 521 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm so in my head, you know what I mean, 522 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: Like I'm overprocessing everything instead of just being in the 523 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: moment and enjoying it. The song came on and dropping 524 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: it if that's what the song made me do, I'm, 525 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, over there trying to look pristy because I'm 526 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: with this person I don't know where. If I was 527 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: with you know, my good friend, I would have been 528 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 1: a whole different person. And I don't feel crazy how 529 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: you know you're doing something but you still can't control it. 530 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: I know. I'm like, yeah, then you're in your head 531 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: even more, trying to like convince yourself and talk yourself 532 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: out of it. But I do I feel like it's 533 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: unfortunate because um, I do feel like it's women now 534 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: you can definitely have. You know, you're like scali wag's 535 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: out there that you don't want to open up to 536 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: and you need to watch out because they will with 537 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: your business. But then there's also some really dope women 538 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: out here that we could really like you know, grow 539 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: from and and just have like solid relationships with that. 540 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to come across guarden and I don't 541 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: because I noticed that like, I'm cool, I'm funny, I 542 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: keep key. But then when it comes to like really 543 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: building new relationships, that's where I struggle because I would 544 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: never let that guard down to even be like, oh 545 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: my god, work really stressed me out because I didn't 546 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: do I'll say work stress me out, but it'll be 547 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: like work is so stressful because I just have so 548 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: much to do and my job is so But I'll 549 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: never be like girl and I stayed out last night 550 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: and I should have prepared for this meeting, you know, 551 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: just having like real conversations. I have trouble getting there. 552 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: So if you're like that with your friendships, and how 553 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: has that affected your relationships, because I can just imagine 554 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: like with guys, h girl, did you know what it is? 555 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: I also feel like like I know in me. Like, 556 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: so my mother was an alcoholic, right, and I know 557 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: that like to this that I don't really like that. 558 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: Like I have a good time, don't get me wrong, 559 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: but like I don't like to get drunk or twisting 560 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: anything because a month so much of my mother. So 561 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: I noticed that when I did used to get you know, 562 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: drunk whatever, and I attend to last shout and other days. 563 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 1: But then it's like damn, like I'm seeing a reflection 564 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: on who I didn't want to be, Like I got 565 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: you yep. So it's just like with your situation like 566 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: and for me that was traumatizing because like I used 567 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: to cry, like because it's and people like what's wrong? 568 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: Like but you don't see what I see because you 569 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: didn't experience but the person that I'm seeing, you know, 570 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: so right. Yeah, So like as it pertains to dating, 571 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: I really don't like seriously date, you know what I mean. 572 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: I'm thirty two and I've had two relationships in my life. 573 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: Um so obviously I have issues opening up for sure. 574 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Um So, like you know, definitely in like my younger days, 575 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: like mid twenties, like having a sexual relationship with somebody easy, schneezy, 576 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, to be then you could come over. I 577 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: was that girl savage with it. You could come over, Um, 578 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, don't carry on. We could talk and then 579 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: we do what we do and then you gotta go, 580 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: you know to me, And I don't have no hard feelings. 581 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: I don't outside I want to talk to you again, 582 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: and would not feel no type of way right um now, 583 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: Like being a little bit older, I definitely realized that, 584 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: like and going through the therapy process, like I do 585 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: need more than that, but it's hard for me to 586 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: get to that surface level. And typically when it comes 587 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: to me having to like really open up to the 588 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: due and letting him be there for me through whatever, 589 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: even if it's like coming out to an event or whatever. 590 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: I don't open up my personal life to men very often, 591 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: and so they typically get tired of trying because everything 592 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: is blocked and they exit and I throw the deuces, 593 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: Like people go through so much and they're not even 594 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: saying nothing. They're not even having discussions like this with 595 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: their friends, let alone their families because they're not that 596 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: they're not real, Like we have trouble really having those 597 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: like true girlfriends, Like we're so guarded, like we're always 598 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: like I don't know a bit she might tell my business. 599 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: I don't think with her, she might we think like 600 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: that's so crazy. We really do think like that. And 601 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: I feel like when you are able to fully be 602 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: yourself and just relax and just like have a like 603 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: me and you always have conversations with like everything under 604 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: the sun, and it really makes a difference when you're 605 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: able to like fully be or some just like let's go. 606 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it sucks to have to wear a 607 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: burden on your shoulders all the time of like trying 608 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: to put on a front. I'm over it, you know 609 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. And to me, like from a period, 610 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: like from a standpoint of relationships with women, like friendships, 611 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 1: business relationships, that for me, if I don't you know, 612 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: if you're giving something off to me that makes me 613 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: feel like I need to be guarded, then I can't. 614 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: I just cannot be around you, you know what I mean. 615 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: And I trust my intuition. I don't. I no longer 616 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: question it. But there's no point in me trying to 617 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: build a relationship with someone that reading them, I did 618 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: not feel like I could be myself around you. There's 619 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: just no point. I mean, there's plenty of people. We 620 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: all hustling today, you know what I mean. There's plenty 621 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: of people that I can collaborate, partner with, meet with, 622 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: brunch with whatever, And I just like, I can't do 623 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: that anymore because you know, one of the things that 624 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: I have worked so hard to do is to not 625 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: create burdens or you know, tribulations or whatever in my life. 626 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: Like I don't need to do that. Life is hard enough, 627 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So why add anything extra 628 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: to my life that is not positive? Like it's just 629 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: nobody's worth it at this point. Okay, So you talked 630 00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: about how one of the ways is therapy. What are 631 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: some other ways that you deal with trauma? Yeah, um, meditation? 632 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: So I do, and it's hard, Like I still really 633 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: don't know how to meditate myself. So I have to 634 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: go to classes. But it's crazy because like I don't go, 635 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: I'll just feel heavy, you know what I mean? Because 636 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: I like, I've had a few days where I feel 637 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: like and I know what that feels like, and it 638 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: feels great. And like you said, I can just like 639 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: be president in the moment. I don't have a million 640 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: racing thoughts in my head. I'm not questioning myself before 641 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: I speak all of those other things. Um, and then 642 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: I'll have a dark day you know, where it's just pitiful, 643 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: and that's when I'm like, Okay, I need to be cleansed. Um. 644 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, I'll go to meditation or whatever and 645 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: like you don't say anything, you just really sit there. 646 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: But like I'll just have like tears. I'm talking about 647 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: just like what would and what would trigger it? Um, 648 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: just the silence, you know what I mean, and the 649 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: connecting with yourself. So meditation is all about like silencing 650 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: the external and vironment and really connecting with you. Um. 651 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: And so like just doing that, I mean, it's just 652 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: all this stuff just comes up and I literally just 653 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: like if I'll just be crying crying, and afterwards, I 654 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: really will feel like lighter, Like I feel like it's 655 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: been lifted off of me. Sometimes it's not anything that's 656 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: there to address. It's just that that's part of that trauma, 657 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: that depression like creeping back up, and you just need 658 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: to release it out of you, you know, cleanse it 659 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: out of you. And so just taking a breather to 660 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: do that, you just kind of realize like it's nothing. 661 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: These are just thoughts you know what I mean, and 662 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: like let me cry those out and gone about my day. 663 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: So meditation has really been helpful, especially like for all 664 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: of us to have anxiety, because it just requires you 665 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: to be still. Do you think it's do you think 666 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: it's levels to trauma? Because I know you have like 667 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: anxiety and then you have like stress, and then you 668 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: have it was another good one, Like do you think 669 00:33:54,280 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: it's like different? Like here, oh God, so that that's 670 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: a good one that is going through um ps PTSD 671 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: through Like she's just the major things that she lost 672 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: her mom unexpectedly to drugs and um, like she just 673 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: has not recovered from it at all. And so um 674 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: her biggest thing is the paranoia. UM. So of course 675 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: she stresses, you know, or she suffers from the anxiety 676 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: and the depression, UM, but the paranoia is what gets 677 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: her and so it talks her out of doing most things, 678 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: especially when she's entering new situations, and it's like fabilitating, 679 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So like there's so many 680 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,440 Speaker 1: things that she wants to do that she just cannot 681 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: start because that PTSD comes in and it just takes 682 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: over her life completely. And so yeah, there's definitely lot 683 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: and people be thinking it's not real, and it's really 684 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: really people be going like people just become different, like 685 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 1: they're not even themselves no more. You know, I didn't 686 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: think it was real for a long time, honestly, Like 687 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you, Like, you know, my mom 688 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 1: suffered from depression. Um, my older sister probably did, definitely have, 689 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, my other sister has. And I used to 690 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: be that strong, keep going person, you know what I mean, 691 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: because that's what made it out of my situation. So 692 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: it's like, just keep going, you focus on the goal, 693 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: you work, you achieve all your dreams, da da dad. 694 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: So I have focused on that so much that I 695 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: was like, what's wrong with y'all? Like all you gotta 696 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: do is pray through it. All you have to do, 697 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: go to fight towards your goal, like don't let why 698 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: are you sleeping all day? Face? And keep going? Yeah, 699 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: And like so I thought that they were just like 700 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: not being strong enough and not working hard enough. So 701 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: I definitely was guilty. And my advice to them used 702 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, we can't cry back this anymore. 703 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: We gotta get up and dadada. And while that's good advice, 704 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: sometimes you do need to give people time to cry 705 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: and deal with process exactly. So um, like I never 706 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: thought it was real either. And then when I actually 707 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: moved relocated to the city that I'm in now, and 708 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: it's like I had a trigger, you know what I mean, 709 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: and like when it hit me, it hit me out 710 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: of nowhere, but it hit meself severely, Like because I 711 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: was working from home, so I didn't have much contact 712 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: with people. I was in a very mentally abusive relationship 713 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: or situationship, and I didn't have any friends. It's a 714 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: new city, you know what I mean, and like I'm 715 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: stuck in this house. I don't really have any money 716 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: um to go out at the time. So like it 717 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: was just like I started getting these racing thoughts right 718 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: and there was just that. So I was like, okay, 719 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: I can I can manage these. So I would call 720 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: my friends that I knew, Like I had a couple 721 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: of friends that work from home. One was a truck driver, 722 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: so I knew that he was always available to talk, 723 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: so I would kind of try to distract my thoughts 724 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: by getting on that head. Yes, so that would work 725 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: for a little bit, But then it just got to 726 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: the point that it wasn't working anymore, and I was 727 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: so negative. It's so critical all the time with people, 728 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 1: and my friends were getting sick and tired of talking 729 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: to me. So I knew that I was putting that out. 730 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: At least I knew you what I'm saying. So I 731 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: stopped calling them. And then I'm in this house trying 732 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: to figure out what to do. And I tried working out, 733 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: but I couldn't commit to a trainer because I just 734 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: wasn't in a good place. So I had paid all 735 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: this money for this trainer, got a new gym membership, 736 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: and literally would go like missing for days and not 737 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: for her not show up, um, because I just couldn't 738 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: come to grip. So you couldn't get myself together. So 739 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: then when I knew it was a problem was when 740 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: I started having like like heart palpitations and my heart 741 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: with race and I would breathe heavy and I would 742 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: have to pace, and I'm constantly pacing that I I would 743 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: be like, okay, let me lay down and take a 744 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: chill pill. And I would lay down, and I mean 745 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 1: the thoughts would just go so harding like like they 746 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: running track or something, and I just like coming down 747 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,399 Speaker 1: and it would specifically. I don't know if it if 748 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: it's like this for you, but it was specifically happened 749 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: to me in the morning because it was like I 750 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: would wake up with them morning seem used to happen 751 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: at night. Oh wow. So I will wake up in 752 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: the morning and I will look around and I'll be like, oh, Ship, 753 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: this is not reality. That was not a fucking dream. Yesterday, 754 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: it was not a dream. I'm still in this city 755 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 1: where I have no friends, in this dark gass apartment 756 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: where I can't afford no furniture, and you know, like 757 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: it was like the most depressing thing every morning to 758 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: wake up and Ship had not changed, right, Oh man, Yeah, 759 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: I dreaming. But you know it's so funny because at 760 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: night and care I could not sleep to save my 761 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: fucking life. Like I would go crazy, like and then 762 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: I would get the rambling, and then I would think 763 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: about all something to do within the day, then within 764 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 1: the week, then within the month, that win the year. 765 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: Yeah wow, I would go like, I don't even understand 766 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: how I how I still had my same dark process 767 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: because I will go I would drive myself crazy and 768 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,880 Speaker 1: don't let me be working on the project. And I 769 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,440 Speaker 1: have a regular like nine of five. Oh honey, Like 770 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: it took me a minute to find what how to 771 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: get balanced into my life and like how to have 772 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: a peace of mind and like figuring out. But I 773 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 1: have a pretty good handle on it out. But yeah, 774 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: So like meditation because I was like, uh, something gotta change. 775 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: So that's hiding up on a therapist. Um, definitely meditation. 776 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm really into, like like I said, my spirituality, I'm 777 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: into like different things. So I definitely am a you know, 778 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: god believer. Um, I believe in Jesus Christ. I believe that, 779 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: you know, he said it thout his father all of that. 780 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: But I also feel like, you know, God gave us 781 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: this beautiful universe for us to to utilize, um, not 782 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: to destroy, but to use uh to make us stronger 783 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: and healthy and all those other things. And so I 784 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, and big on astrology. I'm big on crystals. 785 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: That's cleansing, like natural cleansing, that type of thing. So 786 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: that's helped me a lot too. And honestly, just like 787 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: trying to be around people has help a lot for show, 788 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: especially being around positive people like I mean, everybody on 789 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: their days, we're all human, but to really be around 790 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: people that are really trying to make things happen for themselves, 791 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: because when are around people like that, then you're like, damn, 792 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: I want to do the same thing for myself. Like 793 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: the vibes, Like I totally agree with that, because you 794 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 1: don't need to be around with negative Nancy. So and 795 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: you know too though, like I'm gonna be honest. So 796 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: for me, being around positive people was really hard, and 797 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: I was miserable around them because I wanted to feel 798 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: like them and I could not, And so honestly, I 799 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: was probably the negative person because you could just you know, 800 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: you can just pick up on somebody energy. And I 801 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 1: was going through so much. It was so depressed and 802 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: so down and miserable that hanging around these people that 803 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: were super positive it didn't really help me. I needed 804 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 1: to be, like, honestly, at the time, like I needed 805 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: to be around people that were kind of going through 806 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 1: the same ship that I was, So like my friends 807 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: at the time or the people that I was spending 808 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: time with the you know, we're suffering with depression. You know, 809 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: Like it was kind of like a focus group or 810 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: whatever you go to when you go to like like 811 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: what do you call like the group therapy sessions because 812 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: I need it could be around people that I could 813 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: like finally talk to an open up with about what 814 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: I was feeling, and then as I healed more than 815 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: I could be around like the more positive crew. But honestly, 816 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't always that healthy. My way of coping was 817 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: not always that healthy. I probably have been dealing with 818 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: depression for a very long time, but I had just 819 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: never dealt with it because I was always so career oriented. 820 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,879 Speaker 1: But I remember a time like when I was living 821 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: in New York, and, um, I've moved around a lot, 822 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: by the way, So that's also like a part of 823 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: my like trauma. Um, it's not being able to settle 824 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,959 Speaker 1: very long. Um. So I was living in New York 825 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 1: and I guys had gotten married. Wait, honey, well that's 826 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: my first. I didn't know that guy. We speeling see 827 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: every year we are girl, we need do with this episode. 828 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: I'm not to call home and catch me up. Oh yeah, 829 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't real because you know it is what it is. 830 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: So I had been dealing with a guy, right, Wow, 831 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: do I know? Yeah? Agree, you know. So I had 832 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: been dealing with this dude. We have been dating about 833 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 1: three years on paper, he seemed like the guys that 834 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: your parents want you to marry, you know, had a 835 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: medical profession. We actually got along great, but he hadn't 836 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: been issues and I typically, because of my issues, were 837 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: drawn to dudes with commitment issues. So basically we have 838 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,239 Speaker 1: been dating three years. He was doing stupid ass ship. 839 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: I got tired of it finally, But instead of like 840 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: taking time to myself to be like, all right, let 841 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: me heal and figure out why I picked a fool 842 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,400 Speaker 1: like that, I was like, I'm gonna go take a vacation. 843 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,959 Speaker 1: So you know how we all get petty as women. 844 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: We want to go take a vacation, post the Instagram 845 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: pictures or whatever, but vacation. I thought it was a 846 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: good idea to go on vacation and flirt with every 847 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: local there and then find one to try to take 848 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,839 Speaker 1: home with me. So you're trying to get your groom 849 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: back to get my cellar back. Okay, So that's basically 850 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: what happened. And I realized, of course, at the point 851 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: that he was about to move to New York, that 852 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: this was a really bad idea, like leading up to 853 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: the to the like official wedding, you know, because I 854 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: was like, we had already done that for the paper purposes, 855 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: but like leading up to the official wedding, I mean 856 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: a wedding. Well yeah, in his country, I did, like 857 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: my friend flew down there everything, like I had a dress, 858 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: hair done, Neil was done, wedding shoes all that. Yo, 859 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: I have to call you out for this, man, I 860 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: gotta find a picture for you. See to that. Yes, 861 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,760 Speaker 1: convicious I getting married. I knew you was the same language. 862 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: So you know, I've got problems opening up to people 863 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 1: because I was like the only dude I could bury 864 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: able to ask me a lot of questions. So yeah, um, 865 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: so it's like leading up to like the wedding, you know, planning, 866 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,960 Speaker 1: I just started getting more and more depressed and like 867 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: feeling like my life was come to end. Girl. At 868 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: the time, my sister was graduated from college, right, so 869 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: I had flown down to her college to go to 870 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: her graduation. And um, the person who made the like 871 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: the little speech. The speech was all about dance. What 872 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: was it, uh, dance while you're you're still young or whatever, 873 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,399 Speaker 1: you know, take over the dance floor, dance your heart 874 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: out while you're still young, and don't So I'm like, 875 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: listen to this I'm like crying. I'm like bawling. My 876 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: mom's looking at me, like what is wrong with you? 877 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: Graduation becau. I felt like I was like getting up 878 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 1: my youth and like I was just being stupid, and 879 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, because I believe that, like you don't married 880 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: to divorce, even though I'm not afraid to divorce. But 881 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,439 Speaker 1: you know, so I was like, okay, very traditional. Yes, 882 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: as much as I could be committed, I was committed. 883 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: So was your married marry girls Like six months um. 884 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: So I were leaving this graduation and calling the X 885 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,920 Speaker 1: that had led me to do this dumb ship um, 886 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 1: and he was like, see, I told you don't do it. 887 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 1: I told you to be patient. I told you a 888 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: wait for me, and you over here trying to make 889 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: me upset and look what you got yourself into. And 890 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: I was like, so I ended up, Like I ended up. 891 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with y'all. I looked for a 892 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: reason to break up with him, and he gave me one. 893 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: So we basically had taken a little trip, like a 894 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: little vacation um to an island and we were about 895 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: to go out and he was like taking forever. Get ready. 896 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: So I'm like, get your asks ready, get your ass ready. 897 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: What are you doing? And he was like laying on 898 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: the on the bed on his back with the phone 899 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: in the air, like texting, cheeseing and some more ship. 900 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: And we had dinner reservations. So I'm like, ye, but 901 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: is this a boyfriend? This is a husband. I'm like yo, 902 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 1: Like I went and like ran and jump on the bed. 903 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, get up, we have dinner reservations. And he 904 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 1: like pulled, yanked the phone from me so hard that 905 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: he dropped the phone on the ground because he didn't 906 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: want me to see it. So I shuffle got the 907 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,840 Speaker 1: phone before texting these girls some about I missed you baby, 908 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you all this other stuff, 909 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, you missed her, hunh. So I 910 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: used that as my reason, like I end up like 911 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: going back home, and I told him that's the reason 912 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,760 Speaker 1: why we broke up, but we all knew it wasn't. 913 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: But anyway, but that being said, like he didn't take 914 00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 1: it very well, um, and it was a lot of 915 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: drama around it. But my mind was made up, and 916 00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 1: my like, wh my mind is made up. It's made up, right, 917 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: So there's nothing to talk about I'm gonna send you 918 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: to papers like I don't care, don't call my sister, 919 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: no mora lead people alone. So I felt guilty though, 920 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,359 Speaker 1: deep down inside and like that's what put me, I 921 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,959 Speaker 1: guess through a depression that I never really healed from 922 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,240 Speaker 1: and it just continued and the triggered because I moved 923 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: to my current city maybe like eight months after that. Yeah, 924 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: so this this is new, This is like kind of 925 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: recent recent like three yeah, like three years ago, half 926 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,040 Speaker 1: years ago and so much. And now that explains me 927 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: because we've been friends for a very long time. So 928 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm just doing the top mom in my head and 929 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: they're like you know, I'm like yeah together. Yeah, well 930 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: we wasn't talking because me and her kind of like 931 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: stopped talking, so I don't know whatever reason. And I 932 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: knew that he was going through something. But so when 933 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: we so when we had reconnected, you told me what 934 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 1: you was going through. But now I'm putting pieces together 935 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: and now I see it in a real story. Yeah, 936 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,680 Speaker 1: that's so crazy. It's crazy girl and going through that depression, 937 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 1: Like but why do you feel like it? But why 938 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: are you this? Wow? Yeah I did it, but you 939 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm telling you. I knew it was something 940 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: mm hmmm, something more with you that was going on, 941 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: but I don't think that I felt comfortable enough, And 942 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: maybe I should have pushed a little harder because you 943 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,359 Speaker 1: was very like moody. Like it's one thing to be life, 944 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: it's one thing to be like. And I'm a very 945 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: observant person, especially with people who I care about, so 946 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: it's one thing to be like, you know, be like 947 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: snappy or whatever, because we all got get a snappy, right. 948 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: But I feel like at that particular time, you were like, 949 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: you were very moody and mean, like yeah and this, 950 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: But I didn't think nothing of it because I knew 951 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: that you had other things going on, and I knew 952 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: that you had just moving all this other stuff. So 953 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I know she's probably 954 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,359 Speaker 1: going through a lot right now, so I'm just gonna 955 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,839 Speaker 1: try to do a good friend I can be and 956 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,320 Speaker 1: keep it moving. But that's so crazy, girl. I was crazy, 957 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 1: because like that moodiness and that meanness comes from that 958 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: guard being built up. So in order, yeah, you know, 959 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: I've gotta be like as hard as possible, but that's 960 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: impossible for anybody. So then you get these mood swings 961 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,840 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to keep it together. But it's like no, 962 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,760 Speaker 1: but girl, yeah, Like it's crazy because at the time, 963 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: like I was trying to distract myself because productivity has 964 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: always been my way of trying to get through stuff. 965 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm like, no, when you're going through something, 966 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: you actually need to slow down for a minute. And yes, 967 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,840 Speaker 1: but you know, my way getting through it used to 968 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: be adding on things, adding on things. So at the 969 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 1: time where I'm running marathons like twenty six miles, you know, 970 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: I'm riding bite long distance spikes, um, all of this 971 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: stuff like across states, girl, And so I'm doing all that. 972 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,399 Speaker 1: I'm training because I take that stuff seriously. And then 973 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 1: at night I'm going home and I'm popping six to seven, 974 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, and um, you know, it got to a point. 975 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: I remember this. I was about to run a race, 976 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 1: so and I was like, you know, about to go 977 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: to bed or whatever. At the time, my sister was 978 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: living with me, and I was find out the next 979 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: day to go run this race. And I like it 980 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,840 Speaker 1: was on the balcony, just like smoking like a blunt, 981 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,719 Speaker 1: like back to back to back, and then I was 982 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,280 Speaker 1: like popping a couple of pills and my sister was like, bitch, 983 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: you're about to run a race tomorrow. Why are you 984 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: smoking a blunt? And I was like, I just got 985 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: to relax, like it's cool because you know, I was functional. 986 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 1: I had a very demanding career. I'm like I said, 987 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: I'm training for stuff, I'm eating healthy. I had six 988 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: pass my life. But it's just like I was ignoring 989 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: myself so much. And so when she said that, I 990 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: felt like ship because it was like I'm the big sister, 991 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and I've always been that, 992 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: like that overachiever. So my little sister looking at me 993 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: in disappointment, I was like, oh man, So you know, 994 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: I stopped for a minute and I thought about it, 995 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,479 Speaker 1: and I was like, what the funk am I doing? 996 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,360 Speaker 1: And at that point that I stopped and I was like, 997 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: let me put this blunt out, and I was She's right, 998 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: go to bed. I was like, you know what, the 999 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 1: first thing that she said when she said that to me, 1000 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: the first thing that ain't to me, And there wasn't 1001 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: the embarrassment that came after, but the first thing that 1002 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: came was who cares? Like, I don't care if I'm 1003 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: here tomorrow or not. And I was like, wait a minute, girl, 1004 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: it's something wrong, Like it's something wrong. But at that age, 1005 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm like twenty six or whatever, and I didn't really 1006 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: know about therapy. I didn't know that I needed help, 1007 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,920 Speaker 1: um because you were just coping with the best way 1008 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: you knew how, the best way that I knew how. 1009 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: And it was like, I don't know, I just felt 1010 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: like I had like let people down, and I felt 1011 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: like I had let myself down and I was like 1012 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,840 Speaker 1: beating myself up and I don't know, it's just a 1013 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 1: bad time. But it's not the first time that it 1014 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: really came to surface, like like I know, like we 1015 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: was the first time you really realized like damn, wow, 1016 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think. I didn't think. I didn't think it's 1017 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: like I had an issue at that point because I 1018 00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: was still functional. So I knew that like if I 1019 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: wanted to stop taking pills, and I would just stop 1020 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: taking pills and I would be okay, you know what 1021 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,879 Speaker 1: I mean. I knew I wasn't addicted, but it to me, 1022 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,240 Speaker 1: like now looking back, like the fact that I wasn't 1023 00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: addicted isn't isn't okay? You's what I'm saying the fact 1024 00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: that I wanted so many on a daily basis is 1025 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: an issue. That's the issue. Even if I could stop 1026 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: when I wanted to, Why did I want to medicate 1027 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,239 Speaker 1: myself in that way? But No, I didn't realize it 1028 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 1: until like when I was in l A. I damn 1029 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: near had a breakdown, you know what I mean, like that, 1030 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: like racing and not being able to sleep, and I 1031 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: was drinking bottles of wine um on my own every 1032 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: night to go to sleep, and it was just bad, 1033 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: Like it was bad. So when I was getting to 1034 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 1: the point that I couldn't control my thoughts and I'm 1035 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 1: kind of ventilating and I can't sleep and I wake 1036 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: up every morning and I'm like fuck, that's when I 1037 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,839 Speaker 1: was like, okay, I need some help. And to hear 1038 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,280 Speaker 1: that therapist, who you know, was a fellow black woman, 1039 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: and so that made things that made the relationship different too, 1040 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,399 Speaker 1: because she looks so put together, you know what I mean. 1041 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: She's engaged, and she's my age, and she seems like 1042 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: mentally healthy and well and she's over here judging me, 1043 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: is how I looked at it, And um, I was 1044 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,320 Speaker 1: so damn I just probably looked like a wreck to her. 1045 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:04,840 Speaker 1: But to hear her diagnosed me with chronic depression of anxiety. 1046 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: That's when I was like, oh, ship, I have an issue. 1047 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: You know what I means. So I think that was 1048 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: what was eye opening to me. It's like how hard 1049 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 1: therapy was for sure, and what I had to admit, 1050 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: you know. She you know, the therapist was asked if 1051 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 1: you ever had a sexance the peace problem, and I'm like, no, 1052 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 1: I have it. And then as I'm like telling the 1053 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 1: story to her, you know, I code on the night 1054 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: and I was drinking a bottle of wine to go 1055 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: to sleep, and she's like writing it down and her 1056 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,759 Speaker 1: in her little book, and that's like, girl, you have 1057 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: a sexance the pease problem. So that's I think when 1058 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 1: things got real. Wow, that is so crazy. I'm telling 1059 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm over here just thinking about a lot of stuff 1060 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: that we did together. And now I like, I don't 1061 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 1: see it, but I see it. Yeah, yeah, but I 1062 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: see little things like one time we had when that 1063 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: to eat and you was very like it wasn't yourself, 1064 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: but I think was not doing a girl? What was 1065 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: that doing? You was very it was aggressive, he was 1066 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 1: we were talking about something. I was like damn she 1067 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: kind of aggressive, but all right, I wrote with it 1068 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 1: because that's what I'm that type of friend like. And 1069 00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't ntil a point where I felt like I 1070 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,880 Speaker 1: need to call you out on but I didn't notice 1071 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,919 Speaker 1: a shift in your attitude every no, and then yeah, 1072 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: I definitely felt like I felt like that's why we 1073 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 1: stopped talking. And I realized that because I remember because 1074 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 1: I used to tell myself like, I feel like I 1075 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 1: picked ebany off or eben a off um. And it 1076 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: was when we were supposed to go to that party 1077 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:36,799 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't want to pay forty 1078 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 1: dollars and you were like, why did you have me 1079 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,160 Speaker 1: come all the way out here to? And I was like, well, 1080 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: you were the one who wanted me to go whatever, 1081 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 1: and I end up going. I remember that, but I 1082 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: just remember being awkward. And then we didn't talk anymore. 1083 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: Like y'all, we didn't talk. No, No, you didn't go. 1084 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: You didn't go. I did go. No. But you know 1085 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,239 Speaker 1: what's so crazy because that night, because she had me, 1086 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: I drove all the way out to like like it 1087 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: was like a forty five was never it was like 1088 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: a thirty minute, a thirty minute rock because it was traffic. 1089 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 1: But how I knew it was something going on with 1090 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,319 Speaker 1: you because you she's very smart, Like would she give 1091 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: you a reason for something? It's a it's a legit 1092 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 1: reason like, it ain't no bullshit, no like playing games 1093 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: anything like, it's a straight reason. And you gave me 1094 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: a reason. And I knew something was wrong because you 1095 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 1: cleann justified a reason why you had me come all 1096 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: the way out there. Yeah, and you can justify a 1097 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: lot of stuff. So when I was justified, but then 1098 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: on my behap, I should have pushed a little bit harder. 1099 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 1: But I knew you something was really bothering you, Like 1100 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,759 Speaker 1: you was very like you was very um. You just 1101 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: wasn't yourself, Like how I know you to be? Yeah, yeah, 1102 00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 1: and that's so crazy, And then you was going through 1103 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,080 Speaker 1: all this stuff and why you didn't feel like you 1104 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,560 Speaker 1: could have talked to me about God, I feel like 1105 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 1: we was. I mean, we're a lot much more closer 1106 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: than we were back then, but we've been on Jeffer 1107 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: so long so and I feel like we was pretty 1108 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,839 Speaker 1: close back then. Now I think we were definitely closer now, 1109 00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,839 Speaker 1: but yeah, we weren't close back then, But I feel 1110 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,920 Speaker 1: like I didn't talk to nobody about nothing, you know 1111 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like, that's just not how I was raised, 1112 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And like for me, like 1113 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 1: and even today, like that's why you have to be 1114 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: very careful who you trust with your problems, because yeah, 1115 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,760 Speaker 1: it's it's real, because you know, I was used to 1116 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: opening up about my problems and being and not hearing 1117 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,400 Speaker 1: from my dad for months or years or you know, 1118 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 1: my mom would tell me that I'm annoying, she gets 1119 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: my ears get out of her house while you know, 1120 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: and like that's what I was used to and so 1121 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 1: I used to Like that's why I feel like my 1122 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,720 Speaker 1: go to emotion, you know, everybody has to go to emotion. 1123 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: I very rarely cry, Like I wish I could cry 1124 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 1: more because I think it's so healthy girl shower, Like 1125 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 1: I always feel so much better after I do. But 1126 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: my go to emotion is anger because I have so 1127 00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 1: much frustration and like rooted in me from you know, 1128 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: going through these things and I having anybody to turn 1129 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 1: to or talk to and wanting it to stop, but 1130 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: not knowing how to get it to stop. So that's 1131 00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 1: I get frustrated very easily. So that's why I like 1132 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: when I'm going through something, I typically get mean versus 1133 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 1: like somebody else gets sad, you know what I mean, 1134 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: but or needy. I get mean. So it's like I, 1135 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, tend to push people away when I'm going 1136 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,640 Speaker 1: through things that happen time. I know that I'm doing 1137 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 1: it and I'll regret it years down the line. But 1138 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: it's like I'm going through ship. I gotta get through this. 1139 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't want nobody around me. I don't want to 1140 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: have to put on face. I'm tired, and so when 1141 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: I when I get like that, I typically do ship 1142 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: to push the people away from me. And that's like 1143 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: something that I'm I'm still today. I have a major 1144 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: issue with um that I don't nobody need nobody attitude 1145 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,960 Speaker 1: and that's bool. So that's really all it was. It 1146 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,479 Speaker 1: wasn't anything specific to you. It's just like I wasn't 1147 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: conditioned to talk to people about stuff. Wow, So we'll 1148 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: what are some things that you will tell your younger 1149 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: self if you could talk you and you can talk 1150 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 1: to your younger self all the things you've been through, Like, well, 1151 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: it's like like advice you would you say a younger self? Um, 1152 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 1: I think that I would tell my younger self for 1153 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 1: sure that like, don't try to carry everything, you know 1154 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: what I mean, trust You're like, oh, I feel like 1155 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 1: the only way you can learn if you can't trust 1156 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: somebody or not is to try to trust them and 1157 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 1: let them, you know, to steer you wrong or whatever, 1158 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,960 Speaker 1: and you'll know at that point that, Okay, the same 1159 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: person I I mess with. But like I was in 1160 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: a sorority, I was on a cheerleading squad. I have sisters, 1161 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, I had my maternal grandmother. I had women 1162 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 1: in my life, but I did not open up. I 1163 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: never relied on anybody. I never asked anyone for help. 1164 00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: So I think that like, you know, if my younger self, 1165 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,959 Speaker 1: I would have said, like these are your sisters, you said, 1166 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: people that are you know, especially like I have friends 1167 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,880 Speaker 1: that were saying that they were there for me, and 1168 00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,479 Speaker 1: I wish I had, you know, definitely been a little 1169 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: bit more trusting of people. Um. So that's one thing 1170 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: I definitely would have told myself that, like, you do 1171 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 1: what you want to do for you, you know what 1172 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:14,439 Speaker 1: I mean, like whatever it is, like, you know, don't 1173 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,360 Speaker 1: live for nobody else there and so you know, experienced 1174 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: things I was so judgmental because I had, you know, 1175 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,560 Speaker 1: like I said, I was teetering on the edge my 1176 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: whole life of like a breakdown. So I was like 1177 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: very you know, trying to keep it all together all 1178 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 1: the time, and so I was like judgmental, don't you know. 1179 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 1: I didn't believe lose my virginity until I was twenty one, 1180 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: So it was like and I was just kind of 1181 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: way to marriage. But it was like I was so 1182 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: straight narrow, and I always was like, well, I don't 1183 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 1: do that. She gets drunk, I want to hang out 1184 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 1: with her. She she sucks a lot. I don't want 1185 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: And so I wish that I had like just been 1186 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more human and like got me know myself, 1187 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,080 Speaker 1: let myself explore, do a little bit more of what 1188 00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to do, so that you know, I'm not 1189 00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,479 Speaker 1: because now I'm doing all of that at thirty two, 1190 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: which is better late than never, you feel me. But 1191 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: I do wish I had like used my twenties to 1192 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 1: be a little bit more kinder to myself. I guess, um, 1193 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: And then I would say, the man is too I 1194 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,120 Speaker 1: kind of I guess it's kind of along the same lines, 1195 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: but for real, like explore explore, explore everything that you 1196 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,479 Speaker 1: want to or you think that you might want to do, 1197 01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: do it, and and don't tell yourself that you're not 1198 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,960 Speaker 1: interested in something until you try it. And I feel 1199 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:30,200 Speaker 1: like I did not give myself that freedom. And we 1200 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 1: can't take any of this stuff with this when we leave, 1201 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: and so we just really need to live our best lives. 1202 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 1: And we all have you know, we're all smart women, 1203 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:42,120 Speaker 1: were all spiritually grounded. You know, we're anointed. So whatever 1204 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 1: it is that we tried and explore, we don't we 1205 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: get through it, you know what I mean? Like I 1206 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 1: trust that for sure, So I do just like I 1207 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,880 Speaker 1: would tell my younger self for younger girls, like you're 1208 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 1: interested in singing, go sing You're interested in traveling the world, 1209 01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 1: go traveling the world, Like just do it while you can. Nah. Yeah, 1210 01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 1: that's so true. I always say, especially to people who's 1211 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: been in like a similar situations like us, like just 1212 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 1: live your life, man, like, speak up for yourself, know 1213 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 1: what you want. You know, at the end of the day, 1214 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna hold you down, Like how you're gonna hold 1215 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 1: yourself down? And you all you got when it comes 1216 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 1: down to it. So you gotta always look out for 1217 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,520 Speaker 1: yourself because if you don't, who will you know? Um, 1218 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 1: I guess the last. I have some more questions because 1219 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: I think this is like really good, Like I learned 1220 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: so much y'all. So it's anybody that's going through a 1221 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 1: situation that you went through when you was younger, um, 1222 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: or just anything that you've been through, Like, what's one 1223 01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: advice you would give to our our listeners as far 1224 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:47,560 Speaker 1: as like just dealing with trauma life because I think 1225 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 1: in general, you know what I think, mm hmm, yeah, 1226 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 1: that's a broad question. You know what I want to say, 1227 01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 1: just dealing with trauma period because I feel like it 1228 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,560 Speaker 1: all to one and I feel like you touched on 1229 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 1: so many different topics but then trauma. So just what 1230 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: were like this advice to somebody who's just going through it, like, 1231 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 1: because I mean, I know you're my go to person 1232 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 1: when I go through a lot of things. I recently 1233 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 1: went through something and yo, I was going crazy, like 1234 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 1: I was about to really just check myself out the 1235 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:25,200 Speaker 1: game and you know, our guests as she had for 1236 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,840 Speaker 1: me all day like just making sure I was okay 1237 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: and stuff. Gave me such good advice and you really 1238 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 1: was there for me when I was like really going 1239 01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 1: through it, because I was like about to go crazy, y'all. 1240 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 1: She was a little crazy. I was crazy, y'all. Like, 1241 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: but so, what's like one thing you would like tell 1242 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 1: somebody like that's going through it, that's like, that's not 1243 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 1: really that's not really able to process something traumatic that 1244 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,680 Speaker 1: happened to them because they are showing face. They do 1245 01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 1: got to go to work and do their ninety five. 1246 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 1: They are hustling and try to they're trying to fill 1247 01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: a void or something. Okay, Um, I would tell them 1248 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 1: to to first be kind to themselves, so don't blame themselves. 1249 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: Um you know, yeah, yeah, Like don't blame yourself. Um, 1250 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,320 Speaker 1: and and know that you can get through it. But 1251 01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,600 Speaker 1: it's okay. Like like I would tell people to slow 1252 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: down and deal with what it is and be brave 1253 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 1: about it. Though. That's brave address whatever it is because 1254 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 1: courage that's how we succeed, right, So only like take 1255 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 1: the time to deal with it, don't try to push 1256 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: through it. Um. That's like the main one because um, 1257 01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 1: you really do have all the answers within you. But 1258 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 1: it's just like we let like fear and anxiety and 1259 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,160 Speaker 1: wanting to be right and perfect like shun that, you 1260 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I guess like that's the 1261 01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 1: main one. And then the second one is I think 1262 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:02,920 Speaker 1: everybody needs a confidant um and like everybody and your confidante, 1263 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: and I even can be guilty of not have being 1264 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 1: patient enough sometimes listen to my friends. I know this 1265 01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:12,200 Speaker 1: about myself, but like, definitely find you a patient, non 1266 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: judgmental I um, so I think, like, definitely find somebody's 1267 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,840 Speaker 1: gonna be patient with you and non judgmental. And everybody 1268 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,720 Speaker 1: needs that, you know what I mean? Everybody needs that. Friends. 1269 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 1: You should be able to come to your friend and 1270 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 1: tell them the most embarrassing thing that you've done that 1271 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 1: you're ashamed of, and they should be able to talk 1272 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,919 Speaker 1: you through it, supports you, hear you out lets you vent, 1273 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,479 Speaker 1: and so you can move on, because that's what life 1274 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 1: is about. Like we all make mistakes, we all do 1275 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 1: things we're not proud of, and we should be able 1276 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 1: to live through it, learn from it, and move the 1277 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,080 Speaker 1: funk on. So I think that that's like the biggest 1278 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 1: takeaway is like you know, I think all of us 1279 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: so often like go into this blame game and being 1280 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 1: mad at myself and we made these mistakes and why 1281 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 1: did I do this? And this was stupid and like 1282 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 1: dead all of that, you know what I mean, Because 1283 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 1: we're human and we're expected to make mistakes. It's what 1284 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,240 Speaker 1: you do after the mistake is what counts. Um. So yeah, 1285 01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:07,919 Speaker 1: that's like my biggest thing because like working yourself too 1286 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 1: hard and blaming yourself and never swalling down and never 1287 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 1: doing self care, that is a clear road for anxiety. 1288 01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,760 Speaker 1: You are you have signed the dotted line to have 1289 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 1: chronic depression anxiety if you never take time to be human. 1290 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,040 Speaker 1: So I just that's why I just want, like, especially 1291 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 1: with all of us, like having all these side hustles 1292 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,600 Speaker 1: and passion projects, which I think is such a beautiful 1293 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 1: thing because I'm in the same boat. Um, especially since 1294 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm have a shot right now. But I just feel 1295 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,520 Speaker 1: like when I'm tired, I gotta be tired. I gotta 1296 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 1: let my mind rest and sleep. You know, when I'm 1297 01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,760 Speaker 1: I gotta go to something it's fun. I got it, 1298 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, just take care of myself because I just 1299 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 1: don't want to go back to that dark place where 1300 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: my world is like faded, you know. So this is 1301 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 1: the last like I know, because I since I know 1302 01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: you're in a personal level, Like I just seen so 1303 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,840 Speaker 1: much growth within you, and I feel like like you 1304 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: recently you had a couple of speed bumps, but like 1305 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: one thing about you, like you just keep it moving 1306 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 1: and you know, I mean we talk every other day, 1307 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,720 Speaker 1: and when we do talk, we talk for like long 1308 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 1: periods of time. But like, how are you recently dealing 1309 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 1: dealing with trauma? Because I feel like now you're not 1310 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 1: like when things have happened to you recently, you've been 1311 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 1: like you know what, alright, cool, it's going on. Let 1312 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: me see what I can do to get out this situation. 1313 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Like you don't live it, like you don't sit in it, 1314 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 1: Like you may sit it for like a second, but 1315 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 1: you don't live it. Becomingly because I think you've been 1316 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:47,360 Speaker 1: an amazing job, Like oh thanks friend, Um, you learn 1317 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: a lot of tools and therapy, so you know what 1318 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Like a lot of it you learn in 1319 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 1: therapy is to like you learned to like objectively face 1320 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 1: your problems and like figure out what's at the root 1321 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,000 Speaker 1: of it and address it. Or you even learn like 1322 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 1: what's really a problem or what's not really a problem? 1323 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 1: You know, And so I definitely feel like just being 1324 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 1: able to like identify like triggers and know that like 1325 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world ever, is like 1326 01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: what kind of has helped me? But I think I'm 1327 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,480 Speaker 1: like genetically or just like I don't I don't know. 1328 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,919 Speaker 1: I'm a Leo, so I'm very like task orientated, like 1329 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:26,919 Speaker 1: get through things, support people. That's just like who I am. 1330 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,560 Speaker 1: I'm a problem solver. So I do have a little 1331 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 1: bit of advantage in that sense because it's natural for me. 1332 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 1: But at the same time, um, I guess because I 1333 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 1: have like always enjoyed my life to the best that 1334 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:48,160 Speaker 1: I could. Like I've known that alway. Yeah, like even 1335 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 1: if I'm having a bad day, like I still you know, 1336 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,680 Speaker 1: go shake my ass at a day party or whatever, 1337 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 1: like whatever it is. I've always like tried to just 1338 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 1: enjoy my life. So when I went through that period 1339 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 1: of not being able to do that at all, you 1340 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean, I didn't even notice the sun 1341 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 1: was shining. I didn't know. I don't like remember the 1342 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 1: details of life for the first two years or year 1343 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 1: and a half I was in l A. By the way, 1344 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm in l A. So um, I feel like I 1345 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:18,160 Speaker 1: feel like that was such an uncomfortable and unfamiliar place 1346 01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 1: for me that there is no way that I am 1347 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 1: ever going to go back there. Right, So it's like 1348 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't care what it is that happened. I just 1349 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,599 Speaker 1: don't want to get back to that place. I don't 1350 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,400 Speaker 1: want to disrupt my peace of mind. So it's more 1351 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,479 Speaker 1: so like having a moment, like you said, to feel 1352 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 1: what you're going through, be sad about it, cry about it, 1353 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 1: but then knowing that like I immediately like maybe like 1354 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,640 Speaker 1: two days, three days of being sad, or I'll have 1355 01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,439 Speaker 1: like up and down periods for sure, but then I 1356 01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:49,719 Speaker 1: try to get to a point where I'm like looking 1357 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 1: at what happened in detail and thinking about why it 1358 01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:53,920 Speaker 1: happened and what I learned from and literally I will 1359 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:58,120 Speaker 1: write this stuff out and you know, it always goes 1360 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,080 Speaker 1: back to, you know, like learning lesson And that's the 1361 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 1: way I look at it instead of looking at it 1362 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,640 Speaker 1: as a mistake or I did something wrong. Is this 1363 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity to be better? Um? And then I just 1364 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 1: keep pushing, like I mean, okay, so like guys, but 1365 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,800 Speaker 1: she's referring to probably I lost my job in December, 1366 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 1: among a bunch of other things that happened that, yeah, 1367 01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:20,800 Speaker 1: other things, But I think that you've been handling I mean, 1368 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,360 Speaker 1: of course, I know you've been having your having your moments, 1369 01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,519 Speaker 1: but I think that you've been handling things with such grace. 1370 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: But I think that since you've been through so much 1371 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,639 Speaker 1: and you now you have the twols, that you need 1372 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,720 Speaker 1: to be able to handle things with grace because of course, 1373 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,160 Speaker 1: nobody wants to lose their job or go through a 1374 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,879 Speaker 1: little pickups in life, but like to go through it. 1375 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:44,719 Speaker 1: Look look the way you look at to still carry 1376 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,840 Speaker 1: on the way you've been carrying on. It's like it's 1377 01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 1: amazing because a lot of people are not able to 1378 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 1: do that. You know. I just don't like being sad, honestly, 1379 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 1: that's what it is. That's what it goes down to. 1380 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 1: It's not a good feeling. I don't like it, and 1381 01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 1: so I just tried to not remain sad. Like, Okay, 1382 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 1: I understand the sadness of health. Sadness is actually a 1383 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 1: healthy emotion to experience. However, I don't want to stick 1384 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 1: there because that's when it's no longer healthy, right, So 1385 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 1: I just like, um, yeah, I just do things that 1386 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 1: make me happy. And I really mean that, Like you know, 1387 01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,200 Speaker 1: going through a breakup, losing my job, I dealt with 1388 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 1: a lot of loneliness and so I got a dog 1389 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,200 Speaker 1: because I needed a boot. And so now he's my 1390 01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,599 Speaker 1: boot and I have somebody cuddle with. I have somebody 1391 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,000 Speaker 1: who appreciates my affection and I can take care of that. 1392 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 1: Make you happy, Yeah, it really is like finding whatever 1393 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 1: makes you happy and doing it. Not talking about it, 1394 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,559 Speaker 1: but doing it, and that that takes work, but actually 1395 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,439 Speaker 1: doing it. Take a class, go sit, you know, don't 1396 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 1: be afraid to be by yourself, go out, go to 1397 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,640 Speaker 1: a bar or go to another meet new people. You know, 1398 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,439 Speaker 1: just get out there and doing stuff. Because I definitely 1399 01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:54,200 Speaker 1: can say like being at home and being sad for 1400 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 1: too long is not good at all. I totally agree. Well, 1401 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:03,960 Speaker 1: I think that this has been an amazing episode. UM 1402 01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:06,200 Speaker 1: to all of our listeners out there, if you have 1403 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:10,160 Speaker 1: any questions for our for my guests, UM, please email 1404 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 1: me at hello at the Professional Homegirl dot com. I'm 1405 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna make sure she gets these questions so we can 1406 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,400 Speaker 1: get them back to you and answer. But I always 1407 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,599 Speaker 1: gonna say thank you so much to my friend who 1408 01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:26,920 Speaker 1: is a part of my journey and I an amazing job, 1409 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,160 Speaker 1: and I'm super proud of you, and I am just 1410 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,559 Speaker 1: so thankful that you shared your story with us, because 1411 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 1: I know that this is going to really help some 1412 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,479 Speaker 1: of our professional home girls out there. So thank you 1413 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 1: so much, and until next time, Dies later,