WEBVTT - #287 Packers Unscripted: The wait is over 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:20.640 Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.799 I am Mike Spofford and he is my trusted colleague, 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.480 West Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our studios 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:29.560 at lambeau Field and West. Super Bowl weekend is come 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.599 and gone, and we are definitely going to talk Eagles 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:34.839 Patriots here coming up later in the show, but we 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:38.000 have to start with the Packer news of Super Bowl weekend, 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.760 and that is Jerry Kramer is a Hall of Famer. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:43.120 It sounds pretty cool to say, and I'm happy to 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.720 say that we can say it. Yeah, absolutely, Mike. And 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.960 you know I spoke very passionately and fervently last week 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.560 about his credentials. Rightly so, though, rightly so. I'm glad 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.240 we're having this conversation though, and I think you summed 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.040 it up best an insider in box last week, it 0:01:00.120 --> 0:01:02.200 was like, if Jerry Kramer wasn't going to get in, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:05.120 just how cruel this would be to do to him, 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.479 and to to and put that carrot out in front 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.040 of him one last time and then not get it. 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:14.560 But lo and behold the voting committee that obviously how 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.960 this process goes. A senior finalists happened first in the day. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:20.920 It's an upper down vote. It's it's separate from the 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.240 modern day finalists, and you have to get so. I mean, 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.920 it's a it's a pretty it's a pretty high threshold. 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.200 It's not just past fail. And I thought that was 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.440 interesting too. I think Kramer talked about this a little 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.960 bit afterwards. You know, when you're eighty two years old 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.119 and it's spent fifty years since you've played in the league, 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.360 he mentioned, I mean, there's half half the people maybe 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.399 more didn't see him place. I might not even know 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.839 who he is. Um So, in some ways, I think 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:49.280 though the ground swell of support that he's received over 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:50.840 the years, it just seemed like it all reached a 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.400 crescendo this week, and and for him to finally get 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.560 that call, seeing him walk across that stage for the 0:01:56.640 --> 0:02:02.000 first time after such a long, tireless battle, I think, um, 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.680 as you said to this is they righted the wrong 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:08.000 and uh, for him, this is the culmination of an 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:11.240 entire career of not only football, but you know something 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.400 that has meant so much to him personally. Yeah, well, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.160 I like what you said last week when we were 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.799 talking about it, that this really This wasn't a vote 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.160 for Jerry Kramer. This was a referendum on the Hall 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.200 of Fame. And I thought, I thought you put that 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.200 very well, and I agree with you, because this was 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:28.800 an injustice as far as the Hall of Fame is concerned. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:32.440 That needed to be corrected, and fortunately it's been corrected. 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.200 Even more fortunately, Jerry Kramer is still with us in 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:40.560 order to enjoy that, because he is the thirteenth I believe, 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.080 including Vince Lombardi, he's the thirteenth Lombardi packer to go 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:45.760 into the Hall of Fame. Many of them are no 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.120 longer with us, but he is able to enjoy this. 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.800 And uh, and boy, the party that that the Kramers 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:55.120 are gonna throw in Canton, Ohio in August, it's gonna 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:58.280 be something. I think it's funny. Kramer mentioned again. He 0:02:58.400 --> 0:02:59.959 mentioned it to me on the phone when I talked 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.840 to him last summer when it came out that the 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.800 Senior Committee was putting him forth as a finalist again, 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:08.440 and he reiterated it on Saturday night in Minneapolis. He's 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.200 never been to Canton. He's always driven by that. He 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.480 didn't want it, he didn't want to stop by until 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.680 he's invited, and he says, well, now I'm invited, and uh, 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.720 I think it's going to be a pretty a pretty 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.280 special summer ceremony at the Hall of Fame. Well and Mike, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.359 and if you check out our content packers dot com, 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:27.960 Mike Spofford absolutely killed it this weekend coverage wise, but 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.520 including that coverage was talking with Aaron Rodgers in Sterling 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:34.200 Sharp and I thought both of them they had different comments, 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.280 but I thought, really it came back together, which is 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:39.320 why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame right? 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:42.760 And and now he finally has that. I saw as 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.520 a Monday morning, he's getting fitted for his his gold jacket. Um. 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.600 His daughter Alicia has been has really you know, banying 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:54.560 the drum and kept that momentum going. And I know 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:57.640 how difficult it was every August when the senior finalists 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.960 would come out and Kramer wouldn't be a them. But 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.040 to finally have the opportunity he even said it in 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.280 his post, his post interview with everyone, you know, to 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:07.920 be able to share that with her, be able to 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.240 share that with his family, how much that means to him. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.520 And I saw his son Daniel, who I'm friends with 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.600 on Facebook. Uh, he just posted this little photo. I 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:18.320 thought it was such a cool thing. It was Kramer 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.040 putting his helmet on his son back in the sixties 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.040 when he was still playing, and all it's said on 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.359 the top was my daddy's a Hall of Famer. I 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:28.599 just just it's such an emotional thing to to see 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.440 him finally get this recognition. And and the other thing too, 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.200 is you said, I think this is one more feather 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:34.839 in the cap for the Lombardi era. I know a 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:36.919 lot of people say, well, there's thirteen of the men already, 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.920 but it was one of the most formidable teams dynasties 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.719 in NFL history, five championships in seven years. Nobody's matched that. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.760 It just doesn't happen. So I mean, I don't want 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.039 to see and be like, well, put in Gail Gillingham 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.559 now and putting Bob Scronsky and putting all these other people. 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:55.240 Whatever happens happens. But I just I've never understood the 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.159 argument that you have to have a limit if you 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.560 have Super Bowl, if you have you know, hall of 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.880 famers on a team, whatever era it is, I think 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.760 he can't deny them. Unfortunately for Jerry Kramer. He's in now. Yeah, 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.920 it's it's it's for the best players in the game, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.800 and Jerry Kramer was one of the best players in 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.800 the game in his era. That's really what it came 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.160 back to. And as I said last week, there were 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.080 sixteen guys fifteen sixteen guys or whatever it was, who 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.400 were voted to that fiftieth Anniversary NFL team, the top 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:25.200 guys at individual positions. Jerry Kramer was one of them, 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.840 and it just it just didn't make any sense that 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.680 that he wasn't in the Hall of Fame. It's, uh, 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.560 it's gonna be a fun time in uh in Canton, 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.640 Ohio this summer for him, and uh, you know, really 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:37.720 quite a Hall of Fame class. We can talk about 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:40.599 it more, probably in some future episodes, but but you 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.760 know Ray Lewis, Brian or Lacker, Randy Moss, Brian Dawkins, 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.719 you know, Robert Brazil, Bobby Bethred as a general manager 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:49.839 going in contributor category. It's a pretty special class that 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.080 he's going in the Hall with. Yeah, and Brazil former 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.640 teammate of Ted Thompson for a number with the Oilers, 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.160 with the Houston Oilers, and getting back to one other 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.080 point you made, I think that makes us even more 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.760 The cherry on top is the fact that Kramer was 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.440 able to enjoy this with not only that class, but 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.280 but really be able to go through this after you know, 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.120 so many years of being denied and you know, you 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.520 do look at you know, Henry Jordan unfortunately passed in 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:14.960 the seventies from a heart attack, but he you know, 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:19.520 posthumously gets inducted as a senior finalist, you know, even recently, 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:22.760 Ken Stabler. I mean the fact that Kramer was able 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:24.920 to be a part of this whole celebration of football. 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.240 I I just I looked at that class when they 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.000 went up on the stadium and went up on the 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.520 stage together on Saturday night at the NFL Honors, I'm like, wow, 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:35.480 that is that's really special. And then ray Lewis inviting 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.760 everybody up on the stage. It was it was really 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.240 cool to watch, very very fun. Yeah, and Terrell Owens 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:41.839 in the class too. I know he wasn't there on 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.360 Saturday night, but wanted to make sure to mention. Didn't 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:45.680 want to leave him out. But we've got to get 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.040 to a break back with more on Packers unscripted. Right 0:06:48.040 --> 0:07:08.880 after this Welcome back to Packers unscripted, Mike Spofford in 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.160 this chair, Wes Hodkowits in that one, and Wes, you 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:14.680 mentioned the uh uh interviews on the Red Carpet that 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.360 that we were able to secure their tyler and I 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:22.160 representing Packers dot com, and uh, a really fun little conversation. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:23.840 You don't get much time to talk to people on 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.640 the red carpet. You kind of pull them over, get 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:27.600 a few questions in, you know, let him get on 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:31.000 with their with their evening. But a fun conversation with 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.200 Aaron Rodgers. Um, certainly. Uh, I kind of threw it 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.480 out there. Hey, you know you you you won the 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.800 m v P the last time you came back from 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:41.320 a broken colarmony, says well, I plan on doing it again, 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.040 just exactly, but classic air and classic air, I mean, 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.680 and I know that he expressed him disappointment last week 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.360 about losing his position coach Alex van Pell and hey, 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.000 he's allowed to be disappointed. It's okay, we're all human. 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.840 But he sounded pretty fired up to me on Saturday 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.480 night about his own prospects, about this team's prospects. He's 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.360 excited to have Joe Philbin back his offensive coordinator. You 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.720 know that he was the the o C during that 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.400 record setting year of eleven when Aaron Rodgers won his 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.520 first m v P set the single season NFL record 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.440 for passer rating. Aaron Rodgers is pretty excited about this 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:15.600 upcoming year. Yeah, there were three things I took away 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:17.480 from that interview, and it's phenomenal. If you haven't checked 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.280 it out yet, checked that out on packers dot com 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:23.000 along with spot story. The first thing, first and foremost, 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.080 him mentioning the off season and the fact that not 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.720 only does he plan to be ready for April, everyone 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.640 I think has kind of been knowing about that, but 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.400 the fact that the college one is not affecting his 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.079 off season program. If you know anything about Aaron Rodgers 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.760 in his history, that is such a fundamental part of 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.640 him and wanting to play deep into his thirties, into 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:42.679 his forties is his offseason preparation. The fact that this 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.520 will not really you know, sidetrack that at all. I 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:48.120 think that's key. Uh. The second thing he pointed out 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.440 that I thought was interesting was Joe Philbin and the 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.760 fact that he did mention in two thousand eleven, the 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:54.520 last time he was here at the Packers having the 0:08:54.559 --> 0:08:57.480 season that they did. Personally, I'd said this from the beginning. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.400 I think that Joe Philbin is the Robin to Mike 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.720 McCarthy's batman. I just think together they they know each 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.960 other's strengths. Philbin knows what he needs to do to 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.760 best serve McCarthy as the play caller. I think that 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.040 is so important when you're going through a game planning 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.560 because this is a very unique offensive coordinator position in 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.000 Green Bay since you aren't calling plays like maybe a 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:21.800 Pat Schirmer was in Minnesota. And then and then lastly, Uh, 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.120 the confidence. Uh. I've always said this. I think Aaron 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.080 Rodgers and Davante Adams are the two most confident players 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:31.120 I've covered in the NFL. And it's not a false bravado. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:35.160 It's just internal confidence that they believe that no matter 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.120 what happens, they will overcome. And Rogers saying that with 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.320 a straight face, he wasn't just trying to put on 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:42.520 a face for nothing. He is fully confident that he's 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:44.800 gonna be the MVP. Wouldn't guarantee it, you know, but 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.640 I mean he feels like he's gonna have that kind 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.840 of season. And as he said, to you afterwards, his 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:52.000 little his little speech to Packer fans, his little his 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.960 line saying, don't get used to not play it being 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:58.520 in playoff games in January, this is an aberration. And 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.760 I think there was a triple negative and there too, 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.280 and that that line, which you know sometimes can be 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.000 really hard to line up to and you're you know, 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.760 speaking um so quickly. But it was a great interview, 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.680 really interesting stuff. Yeah, he was. He was very gracious 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:14.800 with his time. We certainly appreciate him stopping by. And uh, 0:10:14.880 --> 0:10:16.719 it was for me, it was the first time being 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.920 involved in a red carpet type of situation as a reporter. 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.480 You almost feel like you're you know, more like a 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:26.600 reporter for entertainment the Packers dot Com. But it's but 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.160 it's really something, you know, I was trying to, you know, 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.080 snap some pictures here and there when you know, I 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:34.760 saw Jim Kelly, you know, walking by, and and you know, 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.920 tons of Hall of Fame players and obviously lots of 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.360 current stars, you know, J. J. Watt, T J. Watt, 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.960 you know, all these guys who who were there to 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:46.240 either potentially receive awards or present awards that they were 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:49.040 nominated for. Awards all this kind of stuff. It really 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.600 it really is a who's who evening of of the NFL. 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.520 And then you know you have TV stars walking by 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.160 occasionally because like the cast members from This Is Us, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:00.320 you know, the show that air right after the Super Bowl. 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:02.920 And so i did a couple of double takes because 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.200 I'm thinking, oh, that guy looks familiar, but you know 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.120 he's not a football players, like, oh yeah, he's on 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:10.000 that TV show. So you're trying to piece it all 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:13.040 together as as it's all as it's all happening really quickly, 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.640 but but a fun night. We got some good interviews 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.760 that talked to Charles Woodson as well, who's and and 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.560 Sterling Sharp both former Packers obviously both very gracious with 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.760 their time and uhum a couple of guys. They had 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.560 some interesting thoughts on the changes going on in Green 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.040 Bay and uh and speaking about the defense, I thought 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.360 Woodson had an interesting, interesting point, you know, when he 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:36.480 looks at the defense as a whole, he said, well, 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.320 first off, you've gotta stay healthy. From his position as 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.600 an analyst with the ESPN, he continues, every time he 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:45.200 says he's watching the Packers, it's like there's guys hurt. 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.360 You know, the regular players aren't out there. But he 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.880 also said, and this is classic dB talk, it comes 0:11:50.880 --> 0:11:53.000 down to the past rush. And he was joking like, hey, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.040 when I was a player, we're always saying, hey, we 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.200 gotta get to the quarterback. You gotta help us out 0:11:57.240 --> 0:11:59.240 here in the back end. And he was a blitz 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.040 or something. You know, he is sometimes the guy going 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.360 after the quarterback. But uh um, but really that the 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.400 past rushes where it's going to start. I think for 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.160 Mike Patton as the new defensive coordinator here in Green Bay, 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.200 and and uh I think Charles Woodson, among many others, 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.520 very interested to see just what this defense looks like. 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.520 I do find it interesting that Woodson was talking about 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.320 you have to stay healthy. This is a guy who 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.400 basically didn't practice during I think the year that he 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:24.160 was NFL Defensive Player of the Year because you know 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.080 the injuries he was playing through and basically just suited 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.240 up on Sundays and suited up on Sunday and he 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.600 was the best defensive player in the league. So go figure. 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.880 So maybe there's a little bit of middle ground there, 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.240 but I think, you know, he brings up a great 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.400 point and you have to have the pass rush in 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:41.120 in coverage, working concert with each other. I think that 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:42.680 was the biggest thing. When you look at the defense 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.360 last year. Communication wasn't there, and it just didn't seem 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:47.360 like they were able to get those two phases on 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.760 the same page at the same time. They both excelled 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:51.679 at different times, but it was tough to get him 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.320 there at the same time. This is the biggest question, Mike, 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.160 and it's gonna be a big question going into training 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.880 camp seeing what that defense looks like with those new pieces. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.480 I think there is some really good building blocks now 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.360 seeing where Brian Goodkins takes it from there, it's gonna 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.400 be probably one of the most telling points because in 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.760 two thousand and eight didn't have a great year. Two 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.560 thousand nine, Woodson became Defensive Player of the Year. Don 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.760 Capers turned it around. Now pett will try to do 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:15.920 the same. Yeah, the Packers turned it around very quickly. 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:17.400 Back then, we'll see if they can do it again. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:38.400 Back with more and Packers Unscripted right after this, Welcome 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.760 back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford here, West, Hodkuwit's over 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.280 there and West. Super Bowl fifty two was played over 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:48.199 the weekends, we might as well get to it. And um, 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.559 the Philadelphia Eagles, one of the top defenses in the 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.640 league and a Bill Belichick defense with two weeks to 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.240 prepare for the Philadelphia offense, and you end up with 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:00.440 the most total yards not only in a Super Bowl 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:02.480 or in a playoff game, but in any game in 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.480 NFL history. It's just the way we figured this game 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.800 was gonna go. Right. Yeah, you know, Jim Schwartz and 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.120 that defense that they had, how stifling it was all 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:15.640 your ste total yards allowed. Hey, it was great, man, 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:18.480 it was a great game. There's no question about it. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.480 I don't want to turn this into every single year 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.720 is the best Super Bowl that's ever played with you know, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.320 not counting the Broncos Seattle game for a few years ago. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.440 But this was great from the very beginning till the 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:33.080 very end. The drama, uh and just neither offense really 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.080 giving an inch. And I think you have to tip 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.520 your cap to Nick Foles an unbelievable job, you know, 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.680 basically resurrecting his entire career. Was kind of forgotten about. 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.200 Ends up in Kansas City last year and was backing 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:48.680 up Alex Smith and give it to Howie Roseman. He 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.040 realized that they wanted an experienced guy behind Carson Wentz, 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.560 their second year quarterback, and falls ends up fitting the bill. 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.000 And what what a remarkable job late in that game, 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.840 even though they did give up six yards Brandon Graham 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.400 getting the forest fumble. I don't know how the heck 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.480 Derek Barnett was able to corral that football basically one 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.960 hopped off his foot and was able to recover it. 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:13.560 That could have been that could have been a major scrum. 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.240 If he doesn't grab, that would have been like a 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.280 rugby thing which just been bouncing away and he ends 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:19.960 up catching it on the first bounce. That's why you 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:23.000 practice fumble drills. But from I was glued to my 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:26.160 television from beginning to end too. It was something to watch. Yeah, 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.800 I think where I give the Eagles the most credit, 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.080 not only for obviously the one they really made one 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.680 play on defense the entire second half, because the first 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.600 three times the Patriots had the ball in the second 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.160 half they marched right down the field and scored three touchdowns. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.160 They made the one big defensive play when they had 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:43.680 to have it with a couple of minutes to go. 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.160 But overall, where I give the Eagles the most credit 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.760 is that they had blown the lead and fallen behind 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.640 and they still were able to pull it together enough 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:58.200 to put together another drive, get the lead back, and 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.440 send that defense back out on the field to stop 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.760 Tom Brady and win the Super Bowl. I the way 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.600 the momentum and everything was going, because the Eagles had 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.120 basically been ahead, you know, throughout the game, and then 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.200 Tom Brady and the Patriots complete that come back and 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.680 take the lead in the fourth quarter. A lot of 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.440 times you can't get the momentum back after something like that, 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.720 and the Eagles did it and that's why they won. Yeah. 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.480 Two things that stood out to me the most in 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.880 this Doug Peterson's play calling. Obviously, the former Packers quarterback 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.800 nine years ago was a high school football coach. Uh 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:33.000 just completely gutsy, put incredible faith in his backup quarterback 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.120 and the guys around him to come through. And Also, 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.280 I mean it's not really been a big storyline, but 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.600 a tip of the captain Jake Elliott, he misses that 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.240 extra point early on. I don't care. I could be 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.000 the most talented, I could have the best leg I 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.560 could be the most accurate kicker in NFL history. You 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.280 put me in the situation he was in with I 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:52.560 believe that yard I'm missing that nine times out of nine. 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.760 But he comes up clutch. And that was such a 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.120 big thing too, because if he doesn't make that kick, well, 0:16:58.160 --> 0:16:59.840 then Tom Brady gets the ball back at what the 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:01.880 the yard lines something like that. Yeah, it would have 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:03.520 been pretty good field and would have had a great 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.120 chance to come down. I still don't know exactly what 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.800 the Patriots were doing on that kickoff return. I mean, 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.080 they're trying to make something happen, But I think at 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.200 that point, you have Tom terrific as your quarterback, even 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.760 though you don't have time outs, you need to go 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:16.360 all the way down the field. I still think you'd 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.879 put the ball in his hands. Um, they wasted some 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:22.080 time there, but yeah, regardless of it came down to 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.960 the very end um and again it was just it 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:26.600 was a type of football game that I think when 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:28.199 you look back, it's going to be remembered as one 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.400 of the most entertaining start to finish. Yeah, well, let's 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.920 let's talk a little bit more about this one after 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.520 the breakback with More and Packers unscripted. Right after this, 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.760 Welcome back to Packers unscripted Mike Spofford alongside West, Hodkowitz 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.080 and West, continuing our discussion of the Super Bowl. I 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:03.240 wanted to point out I think an area another area 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:04.840 where I give the Eagles a heck of a lot 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.280 of credit is uh the fact that they were still 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:13.600 able to keep things going on offense after the Patriots 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.840 made that adjustment to take Alshon Jeffrey away, because the 0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.879 way the first half was going, Jeffrey was making some 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.679 big time plays. That touchdown catch was phenomenal, and I 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.960 thought if he had come down with that deep ball 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.639 that ended up being the deflected interception for New England, 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:31.600 if he had come down with that, I thought we 0:18:31.600 --> 0:18:33.600 were looking at the Super Bowl m v P right there. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.720 Alshon Jeffrey was going to get it. The Patriots made 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.840 the adjustment they put Stephon Gilmour on Alshon Jeffrey really 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:42.880 kind of took him out of the game. But yet 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:46.760 the Eagles still moving the ball, scoring points, putting drives 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:49.360 together and stuff. I you know, you mentioned Doug Peterson, 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.720 the game plan, the play calling and everything. Obviously, the 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.359 performance of Nick Foles just really really impressive to do that. 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.480 I know this wasn't Bill Belichick's best defense by a 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:02.680 long shot in New England. But for a Bill Belichick 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:05.120 defense to have two weeks to prepare for an offense 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.359 and really not have any answers for four quarters, that 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.320 surprised me. Yeah, it did. And I thought both offensive 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.320 game plans were incredibly creative. Obviously we saw some trickeration 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.239 a little bit with some quarterbacks. Um. The biggest thing 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.880 that stood out to me when you mentioned the adjustments 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.880 that that the Eagles had to make Nelson Aghilar who 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:25.880 if you remember from last year when the Packers played 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:27.560 the Eagles, that was the week leading up to that 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:29.200 game that he had gotten benched and there were some 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.520 questions that whether or not the Eagles might just even 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:34.080 release him at that point. It's really been working on 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.880