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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is my trusted colleague,

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Speaker 1: West Hodkowitz. We're coming to you here from our studios

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Speaker 1: at lambeau Field and West. Super Bowl weekend is come

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Speaker 1: and gone, and we are definitely going to talk Eagles

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Speaker 1: Patriots here coming up later in the show, but we

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Speaker 1: have to start with the Packer news of Super Bowl weekend,

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Speaker 1: and that is Jerry Kramer is a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: It sounds pretty cool to say, and I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: say that we can say it. Yeah, absolutely, Mike. And

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Speaker 1: you know I spoke very passionately and fervently last week

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Speaker 1: about his credentials. Rightly so, though, rightly so. I'm glad

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Speaker 1: we're having this conversation though, and I think you summed

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Speaker 1: it up best an insider in box last week, it

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Speaker 1: was like, if Jerry Kramer wasn't going to get in,

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Speaker 1: just how cruel this would be to do to him,

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Speaker 1: and to to and put that carrot out in front

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Speaker 1: of him one last time and then not get it.

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Speaker 1: But lo and behold the voting committee that obviously how

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Speaker 1: this process goes. A senior finalists happened first in the day.

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Speaker 1: It's an upper down vote. It's it's separate from the

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Speaker 1: modern day finalists, and you have to get so. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a pretty it's a pretty high threshold.

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Speaker 1: It's not just past fail. And I thought that was

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Speaker 1: interesting too. I think Kramer talked about this a little

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Speaker 1: bit afterwards. You know, when you're eighty two years old

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Speaker 1: who he is. Um So, in some ways, I think

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Speaker 1: though the ground swell of support that he's received over

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Speaker 1: the years, it just seemed like it all reached a

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Speaker 1: crescendo this week, and and for him to finally get

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Speaker 1: that call, seeing him walk across that stage for the

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Speaker 1: first time after such a long, tireless battle, I think, um,

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Speaker 1: as you said to this is they righted the wrong

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Speaker 1: and uh, for him, this is the culmination of an

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Speaker 1: that has meant so much to him personally. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I like what you said last week when we were

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Speaker 1: for Jerry Kramer. This was a referendum on the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. And I thought, I thought you put that

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Speaker 1: an injustice as far as the Hall of Fame is concerned.

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Speaker 1: That needed to be corrected, and fortunately it's been corrected.

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Speaker 1: Even more fortunately, Jerry Kramer is still with us in

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Speaker 1: order to enjoy that, because he is the thirteenth I believe,

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Speaker 1: including Vince Lombardi, he's the thirteenth Lombardi packer to go

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Speaker 1: And uh, and boy, the party that that the Kramers

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Speaker 1: be something. I think it's funny. Kramer mentioned again. He

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Speaker 1: mentioned it to me on the phone when I talked

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Speaker 1: Senior Committee was putting him forth as a finalist again,

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Speaker 1: and he reiterated it on Saturday night in Minneapolis. He's

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a pretty a pretty

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Speaker 1: special summer ceremony at the Hall of Fame. Well and Mike,

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Speaker 1: and if you check out our content packers dot com,

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Speaker 1: Mike Spofford absolutely killed it this weekend coverage wise, but

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Speaker 1: including that coverage was talking with Aaron Rodgers in Sterling

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Speaker 1: And and now he finally has that. I saw as

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Speaker 1: he can't deny them. Unfortunately for Jerry Kramer. He's in now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when that happened, when they had to settle for that

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Speaker 1: get him the victory. He really did. And I think

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Speaker 1: you look at this offense and the way it's structure,

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Speaker 1: they need to be multiple. They need to do different things,

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Speaker 1: It's not like Kelvin Johnson where it's just Year zoned

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Speaker 1: I learned about Doug Peterson this year getting a chance

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Speaker 1: he is to put that confidence in his players. I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of coaches would have a hard time

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Speaker 1: doing what he did, making the calls that he did,

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Speaker 1: but after he said, even you know, we're here to

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Speaker 1: win the super Bowl. And they were either gonna win

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl or they were gonna lose the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but they chose that they were gonna do what they

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Speaker 1: need to do to win it. Congratulations to the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: they get their first super Bowl title and first NFL

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Speaker 1: title since nineteen sixty. But with that, it's a rap

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Speaker 1: on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to fill

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Speaker 1: allow all of our coverage of the team on Packers

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Speaker 1: dot com on Twitter. He's at west Hod I'm at

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Speaker 1: Mike Spofford at Packers for the team account. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: tuning in, everybody. We'll see you next time. H