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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Second hour of Clay and Back. Yet's

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Speaker 1: going right now, everybody, Thanks for joining us here from

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Speaker 1: all across the country. Got Biden made his trip to

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Speaker 1: the border on Sunday. Updated you on that one yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Spend some time going over how well, while they'll talk

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Speaker 1: about it, nothing is going to change at the border

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Speaker 1: right now for the better. If anything, it will get worse.

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Speaker 1: And that's because they do not They do not want

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Speaker 1: it to change. Democrats do not want the tidal wave

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Speaker 1: of illegality, illegal migrants, illegal drugs, all kinds of illegal

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Speaker 1: human trafficking and smuggling, and all sorts of things going on.

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Speaker 1: They're not trying to stop all of that because the

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Speaker 1: lawlessness at the border is politically in line with their

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Speaker 1: ideology and their long term goals. So they talk about it,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to stop it. That is clear at

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Speaker 1: this point. And today you have Biden down in Mexico

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Speaker 1: meeting with Trudeau and the President of Mexico. Your president

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Speaker 1: or prime wait, Prime Minister of Canada, President of Mexico

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Speaker 1: always got it so always it is tough man to

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Speaker 1: keep your presidents versus your Prime minister straight you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like similar but different. Anyway, we have a Biden

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Speaker 1: meet with a number of individuals down there, and there

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Speaker 1: seems to be a particular interest in pushing them the

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Speaker 1: green agenda. These days, you're going to see a lot

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Speaker 1: more of this clay. Have you heard, for example, have

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Speaker 1: you heard that they're now thinking about, and this is

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Speaker 1: from CNN today banning gas stoves new gas stoves. Here

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Speaker 1: we have Stuart Varney over on Fox News. Is how

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Speaker 1: much crazier can they really get? Play clip twenty. We're

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Speaker 1: going to bring in the story of the government considering

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Speaker 1: banning gas stoves and the bottom line there is because

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Speaker 1: gas stoves use gas that's a fossil fuel that I

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Speaker 1: don't like it, they're thinking about banning it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is there any end to this? No. Look, they've already

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Speaker 1: taken away your fossil fuel or trying to take away

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Speaker 1: your fossil fuel combustion eating engine without ever having a

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Speaker 1: vote on it. Right, They've now trying to get rid

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Speaker 1: of your cattle. Look what's happening on Holland with the

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Speaker 1: ESG and methane and now they're going after how you

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Speaker 1: cook the beef that they're taking away from you. Where

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Speaker 1: does it stop? You know, Clay, Now that they don't

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Speaker 1: have COVID to use in quite the same way, although

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Speaker 1: there's still some COVID holdouts and some lunacy on the

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Speaker 1: left with this, but climate change is the issue that

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Speaker 1: allows them to endlessly harass you. Pointlessly and endlessly harass

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Speaker 1: you in every aspect of your life. What you eat,

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Speaker 1: how warm or cold your home is, how you cook

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Speaker 1: your food, what products you can buy, what cars you

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Speaker 1: can drive, And this really is People often talk about

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Speaker 1: the elites and the globalists, and I talk about the apparatus.

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Speaker 1: This is the religion of the apparatus. This is the

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Speaker 1: religion of the Biden regime, because otherwise they don't really

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Speaker 1: have a religion, and so they push this nonsense, They

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Speaker 1: push this stuff. I wish there had been more of

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Speaker 1: a reckoning for them on the price of gas and

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Speaker 1: what they've been doing to the oil markets going into

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Speaker 1: the midterms. But I think you're going to see some

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Speaker 1: pretty looney stuff pushed by these Democrats in the months

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Speaker 1: ahead on this issue in particular. What's the worst. I

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Speaker 1: bet we could open up phone lines and get some

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Speaker 1: incredible calls. But what's the worst thing that has been

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Speaker 1: banned and replaced by something that is nowhere near as good.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you two that I see. One is lightbulbs.

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Speaker 1: My wife makes fun of me sometimes, but like when

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Speaker 1: I'm in a hotel room. Now, they have so limited

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Speaker 1: the amount of light that these lightbulbs give off that

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Speaker 1: see to read. Have you noticed this with some of

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Speaker 1: these light bulbs. I mean, once I get to be

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Speaker 1: your age, I think this will be a problem. But

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Speaker 1: I will say, yeah, obviously lightbulbs are much worse than

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Speaker 1: they used to be. There are a whole range of

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Speaker 1: products that, you know, the whole My second paper straws.

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Speaker 1: Paper straws are the worst Inmtionic you can. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they are completely useless. My favorite thing about the religion

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Speaker 1: of the Greens, the Green New Deal religion, whatever you

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Speaker 1: often they make people do things only to find out

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Speaker 1: that it actually is worse for the environment. For the

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Speaker 1: thing that they replaced paper bags an example of this.

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Speaker 1: You know they've banned oh here, you know, I'm down

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Speaker 1: in Florida right now. You know what we have in

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Speaker 1: know where you don't have that anymore. New York City

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Speaker 1: no plastic bags. And I think for groceries there's like

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Speaker 1: one or two exceptions. But you got to use paper bags.

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Speaker 1: I e. You know, your gallon of milk breaks, it

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Speaker 1: goes right through the bottom. It's just as sure as

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Speaker 1: day goes right through the bottom. And you look like

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Speaker 1: an idiot out there on the streets. You're look, it's

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Speaker 1: not my fault. It's because of the talking about the

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Speaker 1: moms out there running around trying to go get groceries

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Speaker 1: and you've got the paper bag and it just rips

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Speaker 1: it just rips it out. Because it's I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you something I was. I was on my little scoot

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Speaker 1: scooter roo at one point, yes, with some groceries and

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Speaker 1: paper bags, and I thought I was pretty slick because

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Speaker 1: grocery delivery service, and I came around in a corner

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Speaker 1: and I'm telling you exactly. You know what a yard

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Speaker 1: sale is and skiing. I don't ski, but you know

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Speaker 1: a yard sale is when someone just completely wipes out

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Speaker 1: and they're I mean, I've seen it. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: what I was called. Yeah, yeah, they call a yard

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Speaker 1: sale when someone like their hat is over here and there.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I get it. That's not I did a

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Speaker 1: grocery yard sale my paper bag and like all across

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Speaker 1: almost had an old lady in the face, like. And

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Speaker 1: the thing is, I never forget these things because it

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Speaker 1: on the paper bag issue, not only you cutting down

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Speaker 1: trees for that, as we all know, but the weight

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Speaker 1: bags that they believe that in the usage and the

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Speaker 1: transport of the paper bags, you're using more fossil fuels. Anyway, recycling,

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Speaker 1: don't even get me started. These people are completely out

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Speaker 1: of their minds recycling. By the way, I've been saying

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Speaker 1: I was like, why are we recycling? Like this is

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Speaker 1: My wife gets mad at me because she'll separate recyclables

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Speaker 1: She's like, what are you doing? I'm like, this is

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Speaker 1: worthless buck? How about masks? How about the amount of

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Speaker 1: that we suddenly have created billions of those things aren't

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Speaker 1: easily biodegradable, right, Like, while they're worried about people about straws,

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Speaker 1: there's no telling how many dolphins we've killed with these masks.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, there are seagulls limping all over

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Speaker 1: the beach because they got your stupid and ninety five

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Speaker 1: was telling this because Biden. Oh, actually I have one

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Speaker 1: more thing before you get to bid. You get back

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Speaker 1: to Biden a second. You know how you talked about

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Speaker 1: the light thing, So have you noticed that people now

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Speaker 1: are really comfortable using their their phone light in public

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Speaker 1: places as don't pay Yeah, but they don't pay attention

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Speaker 1: to the fact that they'll just flash it on your eyes,

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Speaker 1: laser beam like they I go to restaurants, now everybody

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Speaker 1: public safety announcement. You have to point the flashlight at

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Speaker 1: the menu. You can't just like have it, you know,

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Speaker 1: what I've noticed too, speaking of these, have you noticed

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Speaker 1: a certain way, it refracts off of that, and I

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Speaker 1: swear to god, it's completely blinding. Is it? It's the

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Speaker 1: different refracting or reflect I don't know. We got something.

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Speaker 1: We got some visual nerds who are throwing the answer

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Speaker 1: are different, but it either refracts or I think a

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Speaker 1: and I can refract. Is when the light enters and bends.

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Speaker 1: Reflect is when the light comes back. That's what I

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Speaker 1: On an airplane where suddenly somebody is like sitting by

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Speaker 1: you get the reflection off the iPhone. And I'll just

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Speaker 1: somebody at a restaurant. Nine times ninety percent chance it's

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Speaker 1: because they were flashing that stupid light right in my

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Speaker 1: I'm amazed at how people don't pay attention to this.

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Speaker 1: Back to Biden, as we figure out refract versus reflect

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Speaker 1: here he is played twenty four Clean Energy Powerhouse of

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Speaker 1: the World. Play it what we should be doing, so

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Speaker 1: we are doing it is demonstrating the unlimited economic potential

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Speaker 1: that we have when we work together in the hemisphere

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Speaker 1: and to help the entire hemisphere. And there's a lot

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about, including the clean energy. We

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Speaker 1: should be as clear as your powerhouse in the world.

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Speaker 1: That's not hyperbole. I genuinely mean that clean energy powerhouse

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Speaker 1: and that would help the economy, it would help national security.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's something that Democrats don't get nearly enough

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Speaker 1: criticism for that. Their obsession with windmills doesn't just cost

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Speaker 1: keeping the price of gas high. A lot of the

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Speaker 1: including Russia. Obviously, why why has everything we've tried financially

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Speaker 1: Sexton show deluged Buck with people who had the same

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Speaker 1: a Firstment violation. That is a necessary step then, it

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Speaker 1: seems in creating the grounds for you said people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: be possible? And so yeah, So it's so the goal

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Speaker 1: not you know, just do it behind closed doors. And

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Speaker 1: First Amendment rights when it's very clear. So that could

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Speaker 1: be a possibility too. Well, I'm just wondering what is

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Speaker 1: the lawyers on it. What is the other side saying like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the counter argument that they're making? Their argument is that

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Speaker 1: to censor misinformation they've been doing. They did that before

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration came into office, and that they can work,

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Speaker 1: they're allowed to work together to accomplish mutual aims of

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Speaker 1: stopping the spread of COVID misinformation. Wow. So so basically

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Speaker 1: this really comes down to whether the government. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so they're going to claim that the government can even say, hey,

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Speaker 1: have you guys looked at this? You need to shut

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Speaker 1: this person down? And if Facebook is like, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: totally want to shut that person down, then that's okay.

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Speaker 1: It's not But as I said, the case law is

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Speaker 1: a little bit hazier I think because they're not a

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Speaker 1: lot of this in the First Amendment context. I could

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Speaker 1: puts the sinctly. Before social media, there just wasn't a

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Speaker 1: way that private companies in the government could work together

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Speaker 1: sort of silence Americans on MOSS. So I think it's

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Speaker 1: created a new terrain. And so there's just not a

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Speaker 1: lot of directly on point Kifa. But what I've been

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Speaker 1: sort of analogizing to is the Fourth Amendment. The government

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Speaker 1: for instance, because they don't have a warrant, and so

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Speaker 1: likewise they shouldn't be able to outsource their censorship activities

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Speaker 1: to private companies. Yeah, Janine, the argument I've been making

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Speaker 1: able to restrict in general like they do in China.

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Speaker 1: For instance, you can't look up Tianam and Square, you

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Speaker 1: can't go on the Wiebo app, which is basically China's

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Speaker 1: equivalent of Twitter. My understanding is and say anything the

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Speaker 1: Chinese government doesn't like, they will directly censor you. What

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Speaker 1: effectively is happening right now with the Biden administration is

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Speaker 1: they're getting to the same result as the authoritarian regime

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Speaker 1: in China, but they're using the tech companies to do

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Speaker 1: what they would not be able to do under our

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Speaker 1: own constitution. Right. I think most people kind of understand

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Speaker 1: that now when you look and see all of the

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Speaker 1: things that are being put in writing. I've read your editorial,

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Speaker 1: and I've read some of the documents that you've uncovered.

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Speaker 1: What these Biden administration officials are willing to say? An

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Speaker 1: email and what this I thought was extraordinary. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you did too when you would look at what, for instance,

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Speaker 1: Jensaki would say she admitted that they were doing this,

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Speaker 1: But then the emails out there for both Facebook, YouTube,

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Speaker 1: for all these even yourself had to be sometimes staggered.

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Speaker 1: I think at the direct, blatant nature of this censorship.

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, That's why I wrote the op ed. I

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Speaker 1: was so shocked. I mean, this is really people on

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Speaker 1: a power trip. I think two things that they can

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Speaker 1: do anything the sky. Rob Flaherty in particular, is shameless

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Speaker 1: and the way that he's you know, berating and very

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Speaker 1: aggressive with these tech companies and saying basically, you're not

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Speaker 1: doing you know, you're not doing what I want to do,

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Speaker 1: what I want or else. And you know this is

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Speaker 1: as you identified, this is how authoritarian regimes work, not

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Speaker 1: free democracies. And I think one thing, I think one

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Speaker 1: reason I think this case is so important is it

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Speaker 1: sort of shows why we have a First Amendment. Lots

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Speaker 1: of people instinctually think, oh, well, we should be censoring

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Speaker 1: this information. You know, if people say the vaccine has

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Speaker 1: a microchip or whatever. But the problem is want you know,

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Speaker 1: someone has to make those decisions and where do you

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Speaker 1: start drawing the line? And we have you know, our

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Speaker 1: clients are top scientists, Jaybatcharia and Martin Couldorff, top epidemiologists,

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Speaker 1: some of the most cited experts in the world who

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Speaker 1: are being censored on the topic of their expertise at

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Speaker 1: the behest of the government. And that's not what should

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Speaker 1: be happening in a free society. It's great work you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Really appreciate you joining us. Janine Unice, she had that

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Speaker 1: op ed at the Wall Street Journal, which we have

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Speaker 1: up at klay dbuck dot com, and she's litigation counsel

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Speaker 1: at the New Civil Liberties Alliance. You didn't come back

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Speaker 1: and tell us how it goes, I sure will. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for having me. She's doing incredible work, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I mean that op ed. If people have not read it,

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Speaker 1: it's staggering. Credit to the Wall Street Journal for publishing it.

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Speaker 1: To she and her compatriots who are doing these lawsuits.

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Speaker 1: Really encourage you guys to go check that out because

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Speaker 1: it's eye opening. Look, I gotta tell you, are you

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Buck. I don't know if you saw this

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Speaker 1: data point. I did, and it made me really dislike

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Speaker 1: you whipper snapper millennials even more. The morning consolet put

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Speaker 1: up a pole shares of each generation who say they

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Speaker 1: are proud to live in the United States. I thought, okay,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting, Baby Boomers, a lot of you out there

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Speaker 1: Boomers happy to live and proud to live in the

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Speaker 1: United States. That's a pretty good number. Gen X. Remember,

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Speaker 1: I am memorably the youngest member of the Gen X generation.

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Speaker 1: I was born in April of nineteen seventy nine, just

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Speaker 1: a me or eight months before the millennials destroyed America,

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Speaker 1: a steadfast member of Gen X to keep America great.

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Speaker 1: Fifty four percent of Generation xers are proud to live

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Speaker 1: in the United States. Millennials. Buck Sexton. A couple of

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Speaker 1: years later, the world went to hell. Buck Sexton was born.

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Speaker 1: Only thirty six percent of millennials are happy to live

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Speaker 1: in the United States, and Buck, this that is that

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Speaker 1: is awful. Obviously not even a majority gen Z gen

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Speaker 1: Z adults. These are the youngest members of gen Z.

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Speaker 1: Sixteen percent of gen Z adults are proud to live

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Speaker 1: in the United States. I mean, that is like alarming.

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Speaker 1: When I look at data like this, gen Z adults

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Speaker 1: but this is gonna sound a little gen Z adults,

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Speaker 1: do you know, I like how like, I mean, what's

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, man, it's gonna sound a little

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Speaker 1: good off my lawn. But this this is actually not surprised.

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Speaker 1: Now you're now as a millennial talking to gen Z

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Speaker 1: like about how gen Z is making those Z whipper snappers.

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Speaker 1: They think they know a thing or two with their

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Speaker 1: because I'm too old. Now. Um, look, this is just

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Speaker 1: America is a great place to live in, right, it

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Speaker 1: dinner last night with a friend who's chosen. He's Americans,

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Speaker 1: Superpatriotic's chosen to live in Colombia because he loves it.

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Speaker 1: But he also thinks America is an awesome place. He

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Speaker 1: also low taxes. You can you know, that's fine if

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Speaker 1: It is not possible to be well informed, have a

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Speaker 1: I know. So it's actually a function of wisdom versus ignorance.

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Speaker 1: And that's why the younger generations, that's why you old

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Speaker 1: and your walkman's That's why you guys are certainly far

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Speaker 1: all up for them. Meanwhile, without us, the world turns

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Speaker 1: the way, gen Z are those born between nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: and look, I know, everybody thinks that their age is

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Speaker 1: I know, we make fun of the fact that I'm

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Speaker 1: the last year Gen X and you're early millennial. But

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Speaker 1: people within about ten years of our age range. We're

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Speaker 1: old enough to grow up in a non Internet era,

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Speaker 1: basic unit of use in a way that you don't

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Speaker 1: have to get you an instruction on how to get

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Speaker 1: online and all those things. Like we grew up with it,

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Speaker 1: but we had independence in that we also remember a

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Speaker 1: pre Internet era, and that bridge culture between pre Internet

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Speaker 1: and post Internet is I think somewhat useful because it

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Speaker 1: allows you to develop in different ways. I'm worried about

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Speaker 1: young kids. I think about this all the time from

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Speaker 1: my own kids who grow up in an Internet centric

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Speaker 1: world because of what it does. I really believe this

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Speaker 1: to their brains. I also think that it's been a

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Speaker 1: while since America has had to step in and save

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Speaker 1: the world at some level. When you think about this,

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Speaker 1: and then certainly against the Soviets, depending on what period

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Speaker 1: era people that I think believe that we should live

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Speaker 1: in this multipolar world where it's US in China and

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Speaker 1: Russia and you name it, all these other countries, the EU,

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Speaker 1: and we're all equal and we're all friends and buddies. No,

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Speaker 1: without America patrolling the global seas and without America in

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Speaker 1: the background trying to keep things quieted down, this place

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Speaker 1: gets really nasty, really ugly, really violent meeting Earth very quickly.

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Speaker 1: So I think the current generation, yeah, we've had the

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Speaker 1: War on Terror and that stuff, but we haven't had

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Speaker 1: to step in in the way that we have in

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Speaker 1: previous generations, and that could change. Yeah. And I also

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Speaker 1: when I see this stuff, I think, Man, if every

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Speaker 1: American had to go live in a third world country

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Speaker 1: for a year as part of a mission project or

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Speaker 1: some sort of AmeriCorps, they would return and worshiping America.

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Speaker 1: That's right, totally have a different comprehension and understanding of

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Speaker 1: how amazing it is. With