1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: The PAC twelve Power rankings are shaking out a little 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: bit easier after Week nine. There's so many nail bighters 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: and there's so many blowouts. It's still hard to predict 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: who's gonna win, but we know who still has a 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: chance at the conference championship and the College Football Playoff? 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: What was up with Wazoo on seven? Also U c 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: l A got a game canceled on them by Michigan. 8 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna have a probably FCS teams. And also 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the playoff run and debate the 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: PAC twelve Power rankings. I'm George Riser with Ralph Ampston, 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: and this is the PAC twelve Apostles Ralph Week nine. 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: He was absolutely awesome. We had nail bighters, and we 13 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: had blowouts, and it is clear. I hope you are 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: keeping a tally, that you're still keeping an accurate tally 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: of these wins and losses, because your boy over here 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: is doing quite well. I think you had a pretty 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: good couple of weeks season two weeks. Uh, I mean 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: you you may have had a little bit of help 19 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: in one or two occasions from from some Pack twelve refs, 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: but I would say that they were trying to do 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: you some harm on on the other ones unsuccessfully. It's 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: been It's been a crazy couple of weeks, and I 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: think this was probably the worst officiated week so far 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: of the season. But we are starting to see teams 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: separate themselves. The cream is definitely rising to the top. 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of the refs, I I was almost getting ready 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: to say, Wow, the PAC twelve reps haven't been that bad. 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: I was been watching a little more SEC football, particularly 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: the Florida South Carolina game, which was an officiating disaster. 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: I've been seeing some of my SEC fans, I mean 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: well friends tweeting about how bad the officiating and controversies 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: all of that, and I'm sitting here saying, oh, wow, 33 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: guess to guess what, Maybe the PAC twel has it fixed. 34 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: And this week was atrocious. We saw bad targeting fouls, 35 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: we saw uh and in the Oregon Washington's Day game 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: was the worst officiated game that I think I have 37 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: seen in the Pact. Yeah, I mean U C L A. S. 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: He was trying to give it a little bit of 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: a run for its money, and there was some definitely 40 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: some questionable stuff in Colorado USC as well. It was 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: just a bad week, honestly, and and it's it's part 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: of it, right, Like that's this part of the experience 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: of being a packed twelve football fan is having to 44 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: deal with the fact that calls are going to be inconsistent, 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: that they're not going to make any sense, They're gonna 46 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: defy common wisdom of all types. I mean, Pinais Suil 47 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: got called for a false start one one of the 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: most blatant missed calls i've i've i've seen in my life. 49 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: Um is pass Sill getting called for a false start 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: for getting trucked. Yeah, I mean it's not like he's 51 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: got a body of work of absolute perfection or anything, 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, so they couldn't even give him the benefit 53 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: of the doubt. Um, And that that one was terrible. 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: A s U U c L A was just brutal 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: Chase Coda ran out of bounds, came back in bounds, 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: made a fantastic catch on the sideline, which the ref's 57 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: incorrectly calling complete and then go into review it. And 58 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: not only do they miss the fact that he on 59 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: his own when out of bounds and came back in 60 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: and a ref dropped their hat. A ref through their 61 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: hat onto the ground ref through their hot like indicating 62 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: that the receiver had been out of bounds. They go 63 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: back and overturned the call, which I believe was a 64 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: third and long h that U c l A ends 65 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: up scoring on. Like they they they give u c 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: l A this unnecessary gift because U c l A 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: was already doing fine on their own um and and 68 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: and I mean that set the tone for basically how 69 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: that entire game was was officiated. There were two personal 70 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: fouls called uh in that game, one from Eno trying 71 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: to give the ball back to the ref but he 72 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: wasn't paying attention to it bounced off his chest, and 73 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: another for a Shari Crosswell, the an incomplete pass was 74 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: so off target from d T. A Are that it 75 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: bounced near a Chard's foot, so he kicked it like 76 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: he just it was on the bounce and he kicked 77 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: it and he got hit with a personal foul. And 78 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: it was almost like in that game the ref said, like, 79 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: oh a s he was getting a little chippy off 80 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: that Utah thing. We're gonna watch him extra close and 81 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, and and and throw some flags. So, Ralph, 82 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: what did you think of that targeting penalty in u 83 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: c l A number twenty four on that two point conversion. Um. Yeah, 84 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: I was sitting there. I was like, how else are 85 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: you supposed to A little guy is supposed to tackle 86 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: a big guy on the goal line to stop him 87 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: from getting in. I hated it. I know you hated 88 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: it too. I understand why you hated it. Um, but 89 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: he got him in the face with his helmet and 90 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: his head was lowered. I think they're trying at this 91 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: point to protect defenders from themselves. UM. Didn't like the flag. 92 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: Wish it wouldn't have been thrown, But at the same time, 93 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: like you have to protect yourself. I'm not sure he 94 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: could have hit him with the force that he did 95 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: if he if if he had his face mask up. 96 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean it looked like it honestly looked like he 97 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: just had him dead squared up, And maybe it wasn't necessary. 98 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: Then again, Ethan Long shouldn't really been in that position. 99 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: He had real estate for days on both sides if 100 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: he didn't. You know, he's a freshman quarterback playing sort 101 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: of a hybrid h back position. You're not You're not 102 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: going to be able to truck you know, somebody who's 103 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: in their third, fourth year. You can't just take you 104 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: can't overestimate your physicality in that situation. I think he 105 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 1: got himself blown up and I hate that Arizona State 106 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: was rewarded for it. I hate that twenty four was tossed. 107 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: I I don't I don't understand. Um, I don't understand 108 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: how why they can't be like levels too whereas you know, 109 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: you know, but at that because it was not there's 110 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: no way that this was intentional. I think they're trying 111 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: to protect the defenders from themselves. Keep your head up, 112 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: keep yourself safe as I'm scared that. I'm absolutely scared 113 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: to death of the fact that some of these guys 114 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: lower their head and how it could injure them. Um. 115 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I I didn't like it. Well, the problem 116 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: is this is that especially when it's a play where 117 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: you're trying to stop someone from either a getting a 118 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: first down or a touchdown and you have to collide 119 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: with such force to stop the other person. Because I'm 120 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: okay with targeting penalties when a guy is you know, 121 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: defenseless or doesn't see you coming is held up by 122 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: another player, I'm all in on those, or when quarterback sliding, 123 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: but when somebody sees you coming and you're like, all right, 124 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: let's let's man up and see who wins. I mean, 125 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: how is a defender supposed to stop from falling backwards 126 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: and giving up first downs and touchdowns? Because you have 127 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: to be moving with such force and lower your head 128 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: even a little bit to create the force and the 129 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: upward angle to get to be able to deliver a 130 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: powerful punch. You can't take your head it off and 131 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: and drop it aside and say, oh, well, I'm just 132 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: gonna run into him with my chest. Because anybody has 133 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: ever played football notes, if you run into somebody with 134 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: your chest, you're going to get run over. Yeah, honestly, Like, 135 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: there's not a single person on u c. L A's 136 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: campus that's not gonna pat him on the back this week. 137 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: And there's not a single football fan that I know 138 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: that doesn't think that that was like clean and and 139 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: and just a great hit. Um. The way that the 140 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: rules are, you you have to you have to keep 141 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: your head up, and you know he may not have 142 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: been able to make the play if he did. Um. 143 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: But again, I don't see anything wrong with it. I'm 144 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: not gonna be like Utah fans were last week after 145 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Evan Fields went helmet to helmet with um with Zack 146 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: Moss and and turn it into a giant thing where 147 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: they're writing him letters telling him to go f off 148 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: and die, and the Utah A d as the issue 149 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: a statement saying that doesn't represent you know, our university, YadA, YadA, YadA. 150 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: I think every a s U fan will be like, man, 151 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: that was a good hit, but you know we're We're 152 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: glad we're able to get the two point conversion out 153 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: of it. Um. I don't see I don't see a 154 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: s U fans going the Utah fan route on this one. 155 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: Speaking of players coming in out of games, I'm sitting 156 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: there and okay, so last week in the Utah game, 157 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: Zack Moss clearly looked like he may have been knocked 158 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: out and came back in the game, and I'm sitting 159 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: there like, how is this possible? And the same thing 160 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: happened I think yesterday in the Oregon game, guy was 161 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: out number thirty seven four Washington State out night night sleepy, 162 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: and then he comes back in the game. I'm like, 163 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: how how are these people passing concussion port protocol? Like 164 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: it's not possible. They I'm concerned about the kids. I'm saying, 165 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: all right, so of course the kids want to play. 166 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna say, I'm not having any symptoms. But if 167 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: you were knocked out, clearly the video shows he the 168 00:08:56,240 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: person laid out on the ground, eyes closed, you can't 169 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: come back in the game at that point. That's silliness. Yeah, 170 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think what m m A has like 171 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: what forty days, ninety day and six months, like medical 172 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: suspensions for different stuff that happens to you. You know, 173 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: in the ring, there's like a there's like a medical 174 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: suspension for blood, a medical suspension for getting knocked out, 175 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: regardless of whether you get a concussion or not. Medical 176 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: suspension for like breaking a bone or or or a 177 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: giant laceration. You know, there's different things where it just 178 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: keeps the fighter from endangering themselves any further than they 179 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: are by just participating in the sport regardless. You know, 180 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: I think football might end up coming to some type 181 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: of place where if it looks like you get kodede, 182 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: if the medical staff has to come out and huddle 183 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: around you laying on your back on the ground, if 184 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: they end up even having to ask you your own name, 185 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: then maybe you don't come back in because, uh what, 186 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: once you know, I mean, once you know what concussion 187 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: protocol is, and I know that there shouldn't be a 188 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: situation where it's like, oh, it's a test you can 189 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: study for and pass. But once you know what concussion 190 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: protocol is, I mean, wouldn't it be a little bit 191 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: easier to pass yourself off for ready to go back? Yes, dude, 192 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: I know guys, when, especially after you get a concussion. 193 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: So in the preseason, all teams do a baseline test, 194 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: and during the season, if you get a concussion, you 195 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: have to take these certain tests, some of them are 196 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: on the computer or all of this, and if your 197 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: scores aren't close enough to your baseline then you pass. 198 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: But I know guys who have intentionally done a bad 199 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: job on the baseline test. The way if they do 200 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: get a concussion they can still turn around and and 201 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: and play. It's yeah, yeah, it's it's bad news for 202 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: the players, bad news for everybody. But before we get 203 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: into our pactual power rankings, Ralph, I wanted to touch 204 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: on this schedule thing because I'm a I am a 205 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: I always beat the drum on sched rules. When the 206 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: Pact twelve sec, Big ten, Big twelve a CEC all 207 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: of them people scheduling bad teams. You see l A 208 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: had Michigan on their schedule for twenty two three. Mind you, 209 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: there's teams that are scheduled all the way. They're twenty thirty. 210 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: And you see now that they Michigan canceled the games, 211 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: had to pay U c l A a a million and 212 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: a half dollars And now you see l A. It 213 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: left with nothing on their schedule in two and they 214 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: have in twenty two they have Bowling Green South Alabama 215 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: and and an open spot now and in three San 216 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: Diego State, Coastal Carolina. And I'm saying, how are you 217 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: supposed to how are you supposed to win anything like that? 218 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: When when this is your your your schedule, and why 219 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: did Michigan cancel? I don't know, Uh, Coastal Carolina, South Alabama, 220 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: I know, disrespect to them whatsoever? You know. I'm sure 221 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: South Alabama still will have a few talented players saving 222 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: cast offs by then. Um, you know in Coastal Carolina, 223 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: great baseball school. But I don't really know what to 224 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: what to say about that. U c l A. You know, 225 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: goes out of their way to make sure they've got 226 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: decent out of conference games they always have, and now 227 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: Michigan pays one point five million dollars to break this contract. 228 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: And you might be saying to yourself, two, that's far off. 229 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: But a lot of these games are scheduled out all 230 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: the way through nine. That's sooner than a lot of 231 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of teams, decent opponents are already gonna be 232 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: full up. I know that Florida UM Florida's a d 233 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: tweeted the other day like, hey, let's make a home 234 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: and home happen. And we even on this podcast said 235 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: U c l A would be a great opponent for them. 236 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: But who knows why Michigan. Maybe Michigan saw an opening 237 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: to schedule Florida and that's why they ditched U c 238 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: l A. I know that you know, one of your 239 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: theories is that maybe Michigan doesn't want to schedule is 240 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: tough is having um U c l a is as 241 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: an out of conference game. So I can only speculate 242 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: as to why it was done. But I can tell 243 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: you this one thing I don't on here out of 244 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: anybody at Michigan's mouth, whether they're administrator and assistant coach 245 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: or Jim Harbaugh himself. They better not make any comment 246 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: about how your word is your word and commitment is 247 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: commitment when it comes to recruiting, because they literally just 248 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: broke a freaking contract. So can we can we get 249 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: away from all this stuff? You know what? Like Mel 250 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: Tucker the other day saying that there's no transfer portal 251 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: in real life. Okay, like Mel Tucker's had nine jobs 252 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: like life, Nothing about college football prepares you for the 253 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: real world quite like the transfer portal. So I mean, 254 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm just so this is just another example of the 255 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: thing where it's gonna come back to bite Jim Harbaugh 256 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: when he says when he's talking about some recruit that 257 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: breaks their commitment to Michigan to go somewhere else, and 258 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: he says, well, in society these days, we just have 259 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: different values, Like Okay, well, then keep your commitment and 260 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: play U c l A from and keep keep your commitment, 261 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: honor your contract. Don't leave for another job either until 262 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: your track is over. So, I mean, I don't know 263 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: who they're going to be able to schedule because it's 264 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: so late in the game that all the big boys 265 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: are scheduled at this point in point in time. It 266 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: will be interesting to see who they get. What are 267 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: your Pac twelve power records, Ralph, Oh my gosh, what 268 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: a mess Um, I guess. I guess we're stuck with 269 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: Colorado um on the bottom this week, even though they 270 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: played well, which doesn't feel good at all. Um. And again, 271 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Washington State played well and I have them at at eleven, 272 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: So that just goes to show you how much of 273 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: a mess um the Pack twelve is. I got. You know, 274 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: Arizona has that win over U C. L A, So 275 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: I think that you have to give them a modicum 276 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: of respect. So I have them coming in UM at 277 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: number ten. My number nine is Oregon State. Uh jeez, 278 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I gotta say that at this point, Um, my number 279 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: eight is probably Arizona State because they've looked completely inept 280 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: on in almost every facet of the game for the 281 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: last two weeks, even though you know they've got a 282 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: bunch of talent, Um, which would make my number seven 283 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: a cow team without a quarterback. I guess, or did 284 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: I not? Yeah? I mean, I see Col's defense to 285 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: me is still as elite as it was, and I 286 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: know that if you just plugged in one player on 287 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, they probably would have 288 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: two more wins than they have right now. Um, and 289 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: so you know that makes no sense, but I don't care. 290 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: You go ahead and give me your bottom. My bottom 291 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: is I have cal at number twelve. They have no quarterback, 292 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: can't do anything. This team is toothless at this point. 293 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: You even though that they have a really good defense. 294 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: Got Colorado at eleven. Even though they played better, they 295 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: they're they're still just spiraling downhill Arizona at number ten 296 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: because they don't want to know who they who they 297 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: are and until they pick a quarterback, they're going to 298 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: continue to lose. Uh. Stanford at number nine, they played 299 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: much better, but the team that's in front of him 300 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: is number eight U c l A who beat them 301 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: a week ago. So sorry, you know you are your 302 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: record at this point number seven, and I got Oregon 303 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: State at number seven. Okay, Um, I'll probably go just 304 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: instead of a five six, I'll go for a tie 305 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: for fifth. And that's two teams that that that I 306 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: don't believe are good football teams, but already have three 307 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: wins in the Pac twelve and that's Stanford in U. C. 308 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: L A. Um, I'll put usc um as my as 309 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: my number four. Washington is my number three, Utah two, 310 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: and Oregon is a resounding number one at five and 311 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: oh in the conference. I totally agree. Uh well, well, 312 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm I don't agree with your assessment of with your reggaees, 313 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: but I can't argue with him. It's not terrible. I mean, 314 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 1: it's so like you can't argue with these things at 315 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: this point in time in this season when teams have 316 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: been so up and down. I have Arizona State at 317 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: number six. Their body of work in the beginning was 318 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: really good, but they're following apart. But I mean, who 319 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: were they? Are they better than the Oregon State, U 320 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: c l A, Stanford, Arizona College? I don't know, because 321 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: now you start taking like a ten thousand foot view 322 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: of Arizona State and you look at the fact that 323 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: they struggled to beat their first two opponents who were 324 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: not very good, and you're like, oh, are we saying 325 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: that because they had five wins? Are we giving them 326 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: more credit than they probably should have had? And so 327 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: they're a very confusing team right now. Yeah, And I 328 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: got five Washington State. They're still competitive, They're a good team, 329 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: hard to be, hard to be USC number four, Washington three, 330 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: you talked to and clearly number one team is Oregon. 331 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: They're getting everybody's best shot at this point in time. Oh. 332 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: Another thing that happened this week was seven. We talked 333 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: about it when Arizona State was on it, and now 334 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: Washington State was on it the following week. So it 335 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: was pretty cool because it was the Arizona State UH 336 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: was leading up to the Washington State game, and then 337 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: they showed it and then when the Washington State started, 338 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: you got a chance to see the other side of 339 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: that game and how Washington State dealt with it and 340 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: then went into their next week. What was your takeaway 341 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: from that four seven round? Uh? You know, you and 342 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: I talked a little bit before we started recording on 343 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: that maybe Washington State wasn't the best follow up for 344 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: after being you know, in with Herm Edwards, and I 345 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: feel like nationally a SU probably got a little bit 346 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: more shine off this than Washington State did. Um. I 347 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: maybe disagree with it a little bit in that I 348 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: just loved the contrast of you know, you have Ray 349 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: Anderson bringing in Marvin Lewis and Herm Edwards and Antonio 350 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: Pierce and Kevin Malay and trying to shape this into 351 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: a pro model of doing things, and then you immediately 352 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: pick up your camera crew and you head to Pullman 353 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: for the most college like atmosphere and the most college 354 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: like staff that I I think maybe exists in all 355 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: of Power five football, And I just I love the 356 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: contrast of it so much those two things. If you 357 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: were to watch them back to back, it would be 358 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: striking the difference. And I mean even even how her 359 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: Edwards talks to the players versus how Mike Leachs talk 360 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: to the players. Okay, so that was a big thing. 361 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: That was a big thing. When you watched term, You're like, Oh, 362 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: he's the same person that he always is. When you 363 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: watch Mike Leachs, You're like, oh, he's kind of a dick. Yeah, 364 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: And you're thinking, what I want my son talked to 365 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: like herm Edwards sucks to him? Or would I want 366 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: him talk to like Mike leach talks to him? Because 367 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: it almost felt he reminds me of the dude a 368 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: little bit toned down version of to Do from Last 369 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: Chance You that's what he reminds me of. Yeah. Okay, 370 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: so at least Jason Brown, Jason Brown, who I have 371 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: no respect for whatsoever Jason Brown is a guy that's 372 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: one governed by his emotions. Mike Leach is like muted 373 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: in all things, Like he's he'll tell a kid he 374 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: sucks without raising his voice, without even me he like, well, 375 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: you suckle, that's your problem. I guess my problem for 376 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: recruiting you. Moving on to the next thing. The way 377 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: that he talks, he manages to talk down to his 378 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: players without escalating or de escalating, Like he stays and 379 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: he keeps the same energy no matter what he's doing, 380 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: and it kind of comes off as passive aggressive, and 381 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: maybe it makes it easier to not get your feelings 382 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: hurt because it's like, did that guy just verbally slap me? 383 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: Or does he doesn't even matter to him, Like he 384 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 1: just kind of moved on, Like he doesn't seem like 385 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: he's personally offended. He was offended enough to bring up 386 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: my play like he wants me to change. I get that, 387 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: but like easy upset. But it's just what a weird 388 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: what a weird situation. But also the thing about my 389 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: Gleach is it seems like the players that buy into 390 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: the fact that he's just kind of kind of calmly 391 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: roast them in front of everybody sometimes have a really 392 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: good close relationship with him. I think it's more, I 393 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 1: don't know, it's hard to help. Yeah, I think it's 394 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: hard to have a close relationship with a coach who 395 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: does stuff like like that. But the difference between him 396 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: and her was so noticeable that it's hard to really 397 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: fathom like that. Recruits. I mean, my mom, mind you, 398 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: Washington State is not Washington State in Arizona State. Aren't 399 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: competing for the same recruits? Um? Not really? Yeah, your 400 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: real estate is competing with Oregon State for recruits. They're competing. 401 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: I mean that, that's just the truth. They're competing probably 402 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: with Arizona Oregon State, you yeah. Yeah, And and Utah 403 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: probably even has a little bit of a leg up 404 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: depending on the geography, you know. So yep, So I 405 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 1: tell you what there were There were a couple of 406 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: things that so just as a one positive that stood 407 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: out to me. What well, first of all, the collegiate atmosphere, 408 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the the um Hunter McGinnis like up there 409 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: acting like a DJ while they all like dance to techno, 410 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: how loose they keep their walkthroughs and everything like that. 411 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty cool. Um. And then and 412 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: then the hours that Mike Leach keeps, Like there are 413 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: a lot of people that put in a lot of 414 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: work in college football. You can't really call anybody lazy 415 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: if they're a college football coach. Maybe I don't put 416 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: in as much work as somebody else. Maybe you can 417 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: get lazy with certain things over time. But man, Mike 418 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: Leach is just working and he's got so many responsibility. 419 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: Is that team like and not on the on the 420 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball is basically like a bunch 421 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: of coaches all working together to come up with a 422 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: game plan. But I've never seen anybody who owns as 423 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: much of the offensive side of the football as Mike Leach. 424 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: And now I know where Cliff Kingsbury gets it from, 425 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: Like why he is the way he is because Mike 426 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 1: Leach is he owns the quarterbacks, he owns the entire offense. 427 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: And then he's the CEO above everything. He takes more 428 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: media than anyone else, Like he's just that guy is 429 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: working the other thing on there was okay, so Tracy 430 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: Clay's was their defensive coordinator who left, and Mike Leach 431 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: on there said that he didn't even talk to him, 432 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: that he just left a note and was gone. And 433 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: I found that very striking because sat how Mike leachs 434 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: talked to the players and being in coaches meetings before 435 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: knowing how sometimes those get extremely heated. I know what 436 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: was going on with Mario Christo Ball and Jim Levitt. 437 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: They almost game to blows a couple of times. So 438 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: I did I envision it. I imagine Tracy plays and 439 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: Mike Leach had a had it out, probably Mike leaves 440 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: saying some very choice words to him. Tracy Clay's didn't it, 441 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: didn't appreciate it and was like, Yo, I'm not working 442 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: for you no more. I'm out. That's the way I 443 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: imagine that went down. There's I mean, well, there's zero chance, 444 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: zero chance that Mike Leach didn't disrespect Tracy Clay's. Oh 445 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: yeah almost. I mean everything about the way Mike Leach 446 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: talked is in a sense disrespectful. I mean he gets 447 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: he gets away with it because I think that you, 448 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: as a player, I think you can assume that his 449 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: intent is that you'd be better. Um, but it's it's 450 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: tough for a grown man to be to to sort 451 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: of have a relationship with somebody who is passive, aggressive, 452 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not about I don't I don't get along 453 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: with passive aggressive people very much because I'm a very 454 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: direct person. If I if I was in a business 455 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 1: relaation ship with somebody who is my superior who made 456 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: just off handed comments all of the time that were 457 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: sort of direct but indirect at the same time, that 458 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if I could deal with that either. Um, 459 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: it's not you know, it's not great to walk out 460 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 1: on your team or whatever. But he he obviously felt 461 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: like the situation was untenable. I remember we talked about 462 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: on this podcast that I thought that the way that 463 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: he phrased the way you know that they need one 464 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: unifying voice and he would fall on that grenade and 465 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: take himself out of the picture. Um, you know, I 466 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: thought that that was great, and I still think that 467 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: that's great, and I think it's probably working out for 468 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: them a little bit better than the direction that it 469 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: was trending. But the truth is, like, there's just some 470 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: people that if it's hard to work for, if that's 471 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: not something that you're willing to if you're not willing 472 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: to eat that amount of bullshit, it's going to be unkind. Well, 473 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: there there are some teams that are thriving at this 474 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: point in time and clearly have a chance to the 475 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: college football playoff. In the um A p pole that 476 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: came out, Oregon is at seven, Utah is at number nine, 477 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: and in my college football Top ten power Rankings Week ten, 478 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: as it should be, because I go no bias, noble, 479 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: just college football rankings based upon schedules and all of that. 480 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: At unafraid show you guys, go see that and also 481 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: tell a friend about the power of five. I'm sorry 482 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: about the Pack twelve a fossils podcasts and me and 483 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: Ralph do this, but if this is for us, this 484 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: is for Pack twelve fans. There's people who want to 485 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: know about the Pack twelve, share it, tell a friend 486 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: about it, all these things. And in there I have 487 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: U Tah number eight, and have Oregon number six in there, 488 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: uh so, and there I have um Ohio State one, 489 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: l s U two, Penn State three, FAMA four, Clemson 490 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: five because neither one of them has played a team 491 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,719 Speaker 1: even ranked in the top Oregon six or to seven, 492 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: Utah a, Baylor nine, and Oklahoma ten. Um So, there 493 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,719 Speaker 1: was so many people that said that the Pack twelve 494 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: was out of the playoff conversation when Oregon lost to Auburn, 495 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: but they were only down for nine seconds, I mean, 496 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 1: so it was as good as lost as possible. And 497 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: now with two teams ranked in the top ten and 498 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: the a Peo pole and kind of having almost a 499 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: clear path towards the Pack twelve championship and some of 500 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: these other teams have to play. Provided US Utah and 501 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: Oregon finished eleven and one, you're gonna have one of 502 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: them be a top well, you're you're probably gonna have 503 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: a five versus six matchup or four versus six matchup 504 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: for the Pack twelve championship. So it's gonna be tough 505 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: to It's tough to think of a scenario where a 506 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: twelve and one at this point in time, at twelve 507 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: and one Pack twelve champion gets left out of the playoffs. Yeah. 508 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: I think Oregon's path is very simple. Win and you're in, 509 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: um win every game and you should be fine that 510 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: that's that's as simple as it gets. That's the same 511 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: deal that everybody in even more respected conferences around the 512 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: country have win and you're in Oregon. Uh IS has 513 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: put themselves in that position. They should be grateful for it. 514 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: To keep your nose to the grindstone. They can do 515 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: some positive things down the road. Utah needs several things 516 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: to happen. Um. They need not only USC to lose 517 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: a game that they probably shouldn't lose, but then to 518 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: turn around and win the rest of their games after 519 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: losing whatever the game that is, then Utah has test 520 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: to win out and then they have to find a 521 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: way to beat Oregon. Yeah. Well, the well, the thing though, Ralph, 522 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: is that Utah is in a good spot in that 523 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: if if Oregon wins all of their games, then that 524 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: means that Utah is gonna win the South because Oregon 525 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: plays USC. Yeah so yeah, that's yeah. So if Oregon 526 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: wins all their games, then if Utah wins all the 527 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,719 Speaker 1: rest of the Airs, then that's actually getting the Pack 528 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: twelve championship because because then USC would have two twelve 529 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: South losses. I mean, because that would be terrible, a 530 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: terrible deal if USC wins out and you have an 531 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: eleven and one uh Utah team that didn't even make 532 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: the Pack twelve championship. So basically USC getting back to 533 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 1: being USC will hurt the entire Pack twelve. That's amazing, dude. 534 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: When everybody said that the conference needs them to be 535 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: good for then and now you need the exact opposite. Oh, 536 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: that's wild to think about. And I mean what's crazy 537 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: is they have the talent to where you can't completely 538 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: put it out of your imagination that it's possible. It's 539 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a tough it's gonna be a tough road 540 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: for USC, but it's possible. Is it? Really? We can 541 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: get into the games now because they played on Friday, 542 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: they played at Colorado, they weren't Colorado was up in 543 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: this game, and it felt like Meil Tucker didn't play 544 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: to win the game. He knows his defense is super shoddy. 545 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: What was it fourth and four on their own? I 546 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: mean on USC s thirty eight with six minutes to go, 547 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: and you punt the football knowing your defense is terrible 548 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: when your offense hasn't really been stopped all day. And 549 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: there was a lot of that this week. There's a 550 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: lot of punting deep in the opponent's territory. This Oregon 551 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: did did the same thing. I'm like, no as well, Oh, 552 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: I am so be aggressive. I mean, that is the 553 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: only thing I missed about Chip Kelly at Oregon is 554 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: his aggressiveness, and he's doing it at you c l A. 555 00:30:55,400 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: It pays dividends if you go into drives saying, let's 556 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: we got four downs if you can, especially if you're 557 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: It's different if the defense is consistently stopping you. But 558 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: when you already accumulate at thirty one thirty five points 559 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, you haven't been stopped very much. 560 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: So guess what, be aggressive. It will pay. It is 561 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: better to end games with the ball in your hand 562 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: than not in your hand. But you know what, Ralph 563 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: USC has their quarterback now in Keeton keating slogans four 564 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: six yards four TVs. The kid looks legit. Uh yeah, 565 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean, let's so let's be clear. Up until the 566 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, USC media people in l A, people who 567 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: followed this program, they were roasting the kid. They mean, 568 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: they were calling for backups. They did not think that 569 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: he looked good at all. And then fourth quarter Keating Slovis, 570 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: which apparently is a thing. Fourth quarter slogans is its 571 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: own thing. Uh. He emerges and throws two touchdown passes 572 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: to get them this win. He had some really nice 573 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: passes in this game, But I gotta give credit to 574 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: the fans. Sided um USC site Reign of Troit. They 575 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: tweeted this out and I think this will blow your mind. 576 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: George Keatan Slovis in the fourth quarter this season thirty 577 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: five or forty four forty nine yards, five touchdowns, no interceptions, 578 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: in a passer rating of one point to six. Damn. Yeah. 579 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean, every every team in the country except for Alabama, 580 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: And I mean it's probably only like three or four 581 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: teams that would that wouldn't trade their quarterback for that 582 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, I mean we gotta start calling him, 583 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: maybe Keaton start Slovis because the way he's finishing these 584 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: games and in just a completely different mode. Yeah. Yeah. 585 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: And I thought that Colorado and the other m had 586 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: given up this season, but Mail Tucker found a way 587 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: to get his team to fight. So I want to 588 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: give him credit for that. Found a way to get 589 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: his team to fight. Um, Stephen Montez didn't throw any interceptions? 590 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: Could he have thrown a bunch of bad ones? Um? 591 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: They ran the ball pretty well for a hundred ninety 592 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: six yards? Uh they You know USC wasn't able to 593 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: run the ball extremely well either, I mean, aside from 594 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: a long thirty seven yard or by Ama and Roight 595 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: st st Brown. They largely held them in check, but 596 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: it was Michael Pittman who went off in the second half. 597 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 1: Him and Tyler Bonds both had over a hundred yards. 598 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: Drake London had another eighty five. I mean this was 599 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: and I'm ros st Brown had what hunter total Hunter 600 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 1: yards of total offense. These dudes are dangerous. And also 601 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: we saw a Laviska chenault S team. Yeah yeah, And 602 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: if if people have been listening to this podcast for 603 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: a while, if this is your first time, welcome, But 604 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: if you've been listening to this for a while, you 605 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: know that we're just una fashion supporters of the USC 606 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: Wide Receiving Corps, no connections to the USC. Otherwise we've 607 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: criticized around me for all sorts of other things. But 608 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: these receivers are so good. And as much as I 609 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 1: believe deep in my heart that you cannot ultimately be 610 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: a successful team with just a good group of wide 611 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: receivers or even a dominant number one as in Colorado's case, 612 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: um I think that USC owes two of their wins 613 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: at least to this point, you know, whether it's Utah 614 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: and Colorado, and maybe argue another one just to the 615 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: fact that these receivers are so good. This game and 616 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: the Utah game are on the whiteouts that like they didn't. Yes, 617 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: Slovis was good, but these dudes have been making plays 618 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: and if like Slovis, if even if he had a 619 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: notch down receivers, because I've said USC has the best 620 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: wide receivers in the country, better than Alabama. I know 621 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy's really a good and the other kid there 622 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 1: is really good as well. But as far as three deep, 623 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: four deep, nobody's this good. Nobody is this good. And 624 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 1: I know Oklahoma has Ceedee Lamb but and as some 625 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: other players, but not they're not four or five deep 626 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: like this group is. I mean overall, now, Colorado is 627 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,919 Speaker 1: three and five, probably not headed to a bowl game 628 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: because they would need to win three out of the 629 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: last four and USC only needs to win one more 630 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: game to get to a bowl game, and they have 631 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,959 Speaker 1: they have Oregon, so they have Oregon this week. Then 632 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: as you then Cal and U C l A and 633 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: they only need one more win. So assuming they lose 634 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: the Oregon game, the Arizona State game is gonna be 635 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: a dog fight, I think. Um And by the time 636 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: they played cow Chase Garber should actually be back, so 637 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: that could really change Cow's whole entire future. And then 638 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: that U c L A game is a rivalry game. Um, 639 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: do you see USC winning their next four games? I 640 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: think it's possible. I think it's possible. I mean, they're 641 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: so good in one area. They've got a quarterback who's 642 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: playing well, the offensive line is serviceable, They're finding ways 643 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,360 Speaker 1: to run the ball um and I think that you know, 644 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: they're they're probably gonna get a little bit healthier at 645 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: that position as the season goes on, and you just 646 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: need to make one or two plays defensively, you know, 647 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: you don't need to get a stop every single time. 648 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: You just need to do enough. Um, the possibility exists. 649 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: Will they probably not, But I mean it would be 650 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: crazy to think that it wasn't possible. I think it's 651 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: highly possible that they that they give Oregon one of 652 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: their toughest challenge is of the season next week. But 653 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't I don't necessarily think that that means that 654 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: they're you know, I'm not guaranteeing four wins or anything 655 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: like that, but I would not be surprised with with 656 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: with if it happened, And I'm probably looking at three 657 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: and one is the most realistic outcome? Yeah, yeah, I 658 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: would agree with that most really realistic. Your next game 659 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: up in the day was Arizona and Stanford. I was 660 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: we both were right on this game and that we 661 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: said that if Jack West starts, Stanford gets housed. I mean, 662 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: because they got destroyed by U C. L A. With 663 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: Jack West a quarterback, they couldn't run the ball, couldn't 664 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: pass it. K J. Costello comes back thirty twelve yards, 665 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: three touchdowns. They are an entirely different team. And Arizona 666 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: did the unthinkable again. They keep switching quarterbacks. Take Cheefel 667 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: Tate seventeen for thirty four a tick over fift two touchdown, 668 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: it's two interceptions. They bring Grant Ganil in when the 669 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: game is still well in reach. He goes seven for 670 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: seven with a touchdown. Why do you take him out? Well, 671 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: he also got himself sacked twice and had the most 672 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: engregious fumble of the entire weekend in college football. So 673 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean, switching them back and forth for a second, 674 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: it was weird because we we all know if you 675 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: have two quarterbacks, you don't have one quarterback, right Like 676 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: we we all know this it has been ingrained in 677 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: our minds as football fans, as people have been around 678 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 1: the game. You played the game, I'm sure you've been 679 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: in situations where there were quarterback controversies and you had 680 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: to settle on one because if you have more than 681 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: one quarterback, you don't have a quarterback. And for a 682 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: second I got fooled because I was like, Oh, how 683 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: genius is it to put Khalil Tate in there and 684 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: then to spell him for a drive with somebody who 685 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: brings a completely different lament, and then the defense doesn't 686 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: necessarily know what's going on. Well, guess what. It took 687 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: two quarters for Stanford and David Shot and all the 688 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: brainy acts over there to figure out what would happen 689 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: when each quarterback was in. The quarterbacks combined played relatively 690 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: well on the day. Cliltate finally, for the first time 691 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: in two years, had more than a hundred yards rushing 692 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: against the Pack twelve opponent Grant Gannell. You know, he 693 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: goes in there, he throws seven passes, he's accurate, but 694 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: obviously they can sell out on the blitz when he's 695 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: in the game, and the entire thing falls apart. And 696 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: University of Arizona managed to do something that I didn't 697 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: even think was even possible going into the game, which 698 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: is leave the fans piste off at both quarterbacks. A 699 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 1: fan base that wants nothing more than to move on 700 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: from the cliltate experiment is now mad at everybody. And 701 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: the truth is, the problem wasn't even either quarterback in 702 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: this game, as dumb as it was to be playing 703 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: them both, it was the defense. The defense at KG 704 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: Costillo shreded them, absolutely shredded them. And so I, you know, 705 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't really know what what to say here. Arizona 706 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: did something bad at the quarterback position that they that 707 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 1: they shouldn't have done, but the quarterbacks didn't give up 708 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 1: forty one. Oh agree, dude. This was on the coaches, 709 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: This was on Kevin Sumland. And but I will say 710 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: I did like the fight that we saw from from Stanford, 711 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: and we will get into all of that as the 712 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: week goes goes on. The next game up was the 713 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: u c l A Bruins and the Arizona State Sun 714 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: Sunday was We covered all the egregious penalties and plays 715 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: in the game, but now USC u c l A, 716 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: I should say, has themselves in a really good spot 717 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: in the conference. They they technically, they mathematically are still 718 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: alive in conference play inexplicably, and if they can win out, 719 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: which would include a Utah win, which which is not 720 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: gonna happen. I do not mind you. I'm not a 721 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: crazy man. I do not believe that that's gonna happen. 722 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: They can win the South. But the biggest question I think, Ralph, 723 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: is what the heck is going on with Arizona State. Dude, 724 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: this you say, l A team was falling apart, and 725 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 1: until the fourth quarter when they scored twenty two points, 726 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 1: they were getting housed. Yeah, I you don't. I don't. 727 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't think that you should make any excuses for 728 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: Arizona State in this game. You know, there's a pretty 729 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: good chance that the officiating gifted u c L A 730 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 1: eight team. Um, but ultimately that doesn't matter because because 731 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: it was thirty five to seven at one point. UM. 732 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Chip Kelly, did you do you remember? Um? 733 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: Moral Kombat on Arcade came out on Superintendent as well. 734 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: There was that one move where you could sweep the 735 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: leg right and the and whoever you were fighting fell 736 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: on their back and and in the time that it 737 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: took you to get back up. You could just sweep 738 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 1: the leg again, and if you got him into that trap, 739 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 1: you could trip them about eighteen times in a row 740 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: and win the fight. Yeah yeah, you remember that. Yeah, 741 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: so that used to happen to me. That piss me 742 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: off when yeah, yeah, inviting you used to just be 743 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,399 Speaker 1: able to just slide on into him. But like so 744 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,399 Speaker 1: that was that's Chip Kelly. If something is working, he's 745 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: going to keep doing it until you stop him. And 746 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: then when you stop him, and this was his issue 747 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and then when you stop him, he's 748 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: gonna just keep doing it. Anyway, to see if there 749 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: were so many games where like the Eagles of the 750 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,240 Speaker 1: Niners got up early in the first half on somebody 751 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: and then they got come back on because one team 752 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: would make adjustments and Chip Kelly wouldn't do it. So 753 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly saw that the three three five is a 754 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: little bit soft up the middle. He knows the Arizona 755 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: State's defensive line is a liability, and he's like, hey, 756 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: nobody's really tested them on this yet. Let's just run 757 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: what's the whole Marshawn Lynch thing? Run through MFL space again? 758 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: And again and again and again. YEA, so that's what 759 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: you saw. It was effective, um, and I you and 760 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: I talked about the fact that Dorian Thompson Robinson has 761 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: sort of entered this light, which I don't I think 762 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: you've switched being a fan of I still I like 763 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: it of just not caring. He's gonna find he's not 764 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: going to make the tough throws. He's gonna throw when 765 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,279 Speaker 1: a receiver's open. He's going to use his athleticism to 766 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: create room to possibly make that throw. If it doesn't work, 767 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna check down and he's just gonna 768 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: find over space. He is playing loose. You know, at 769 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,879 Speaker 1: this point there's really nothing to lose. Any bad thing 770 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: about U c l A and DTR has been said. 771 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: So he's just gonna go out and he's gonna take 772 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: what you give him. And it's turned him into a 773 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: massive threat of a foll player and I like that 774 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: about him. He did that against Arizona State. Arizona State 775 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: never made any adjustments of any kind until it was 776 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: far too late, and they made this U c l 777 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: A offense look incredible. UM, just incredible, And that's what 778 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: leads me to believe that u c l A is 779 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: trending in the right direction. And I don't know what 780 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: Jerry Asnarro did, whether he listened to the podcast, listen 781 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: to the back to all apostles and we were calling 782 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: for for his head, but he stopped in A Benjamin 783 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,919 Speaker 1: thirteen carries forty six yards. And this was a team 784 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: that was Swiss cheese against the run and Swiss cheese 785 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: and could pass, but they are headed in the right direction. 786 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 1: At this point, I would say this is what this 787 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: is a big thing for a s U in this game. 788 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: Was everybody went into that Utah After that Utah game, 789 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: everybody was like, why don't you just give the ball 790 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: to brand now, why don't you run the ball more? Um? 791 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: And so a s U came into the u c 792 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 1: l A game where you should be able to run 793 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,440 Speaker 1: at them and throw over them, and they executed an 794 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: offensive game plan that probably should have been reserved for Utah. 795 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,760 Speaker 1: So it's almost like a s U s on a delay, 796 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: like next week you're gonna or in two weeks you're 797 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna see them try to go deep, you know, because 798 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: that's what they should have done against U c l A. 799 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: So it just feels like everything a s U is 800 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,479 Speaker 1: doing right now is a too late adjustment um and 801 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 1: the next game up in the day, which we can 802 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: just spend a second old because this was a disaster, 803 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: an epic disaster. Cal at Utah. I mean Cal has 804 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 1: the lowest, the lowest margin for error of any Pack 805 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: twelve team in terms of winning and losing the sorry 806 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: not not the lowest, the smallest margin of error. So 807 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: their defense knows that they have to you know, if 808 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: they give up more than fifteen points, they're gonna lose. 809 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: And in the Utah game, did they were more dominant 810 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: in this game than in the Arizona State game. I 811 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: mean they gave up nothing. And Cal is I mean 812 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: they're kept putting their defense in a bad position. I mean, 813 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't know how you're supposed to play if your 814 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,280 Speaker 1: cow I mean, it's a bad look for Justin Wilcox, 815 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: the fact that he doesn't have a backup quarterback. I mean, well, 816 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: well he's on the third stringer now. And but dude, 817 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,360 Speaker 1: I just feel really really bad for this team because 818 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: they have such good players on defense, and Spencer Brash 819 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: was bad. Robbie Rouel came in, he was bad. I 820 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,840 Speaker 1: mean what, they were held to eighty three yards of 821 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 1: total offense eight three. So in two weeks, Utahs held 822 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: teams to three points. My my j bad offensive teams, 823 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: but still what not always sorry, Cow's a bad offensive team, 824 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: as she was reasonable held him to three points and 825 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 1: like a combined two d and thirty yards of total offense. 826 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: This team is dominant, and there's a lot of people 827 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: who think they may be the best team in the 828 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 1: back to of Right now, they've they've had some good fortune, 829 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 1: Let's be honest, right they've played three true freshman quarterbacks. 830 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: Now they were able to knock one out of the 831 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: game and it worked against them. Um, but they're they're 832 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 1: averaging giving up less than ten passing yards a quarter 833 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: over the last eight quarters, which might be the most 834 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: insane stat I've ever heard in the modern game of football. 835 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,080 Speaker 1: Um but I mean a lot of it at this 836 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: point has been they have the talent to sell them 837 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: short on any of this. Tyler Huntley, Tyler Huntley probably 838 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in the game. I mean, after the 839 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: first quarter yesterday, it probably wasn't even necessary. He looks 840 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: a little bit beat up. Um offensively, though, Zack Moss 841 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: is the absolute real deal. Um, I don't think that 842 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,759 Speaker 1: anybody else is a running back right now is in 843 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: his class just as far as a workhorse. You know, 844 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: there maybe are players that are more dynamic or more athletic, 845 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: but there's no true first, second, third down running back 846 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 1: like Zack Moss in the Pac twelve right now. Um, 847 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: this is a good this is a good football team 848 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: also experienced a little bit of good fortune. And all 849 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 1: you all you can do is win the games in 850 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: front of you. And that's I mean, they're doing it 851 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: in dominant fashion. And you know, we talked about the 852 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: fact that it took you know, yeah, it took It 853 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 1: took Oregon until the last play. It took usc until 854 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter to beat opponents that they're clearly better than. 855 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: Well U c. L as not even messing around with 856 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,879 Speaker 1: that at this point in the season. If they are 857 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: more talented than another team, it's going to show on 858 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:48,799 Speaker 1: the scoreboard. And for some reason, styles make fights, and 859 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: this is a style that Oregon has a ton of 860 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: trouble stopper And it just felt like between the refs 861 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,720 Speaker 1: and a couple of times not getting off the field, 862 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: Washingston's state because Oregon was up a teen at one 863 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,279 Speaker 1: point time and had a chance to get off the 864 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: field on third down, and then the refs make a 865 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 1: horrible call. Um Mark Mario Kristo Baul gets a personal foul. 866 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,360 Speaker 1: If you get a personal foul after the refs have 867 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: to reverse a call because you made a terrible call, 868 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: you should get that personal foul. Recent I agree. I mean, 869 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: we've seen that. I was watching a Phoenix Suns game 870 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: yesterday and the same thing happened. You can challenge a 871 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 1: call in basketball now, and they tied. They tied somebody 872 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: up for arguing the call, challenged the call, and it 873 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 1: got overturned with the technical foul stands and I you know, 874 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: I hate that. If you you should own it. If 875 00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: you're a referee and you make the wrong call, you 876 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 1: should own other people's reaction to your ineptitude. Oh I 877 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: want with that. So are you all in on the 878 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: Ducks right now? Yeah? I mean, I'm still waiting for 879 00:49:55,719 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 1: your apology for for disparaging Arizona States to fensive backs 880 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: after you saw what Anthony Gordon is actually capable of 881 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:08,280 Speaker 1: going over four hundred yards against the Ducks dvs UM 882 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 1: that that offense, It just that is what it is. 883 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: They hit the open receiver again and again and again, 884 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: and there's all you can do is keep them in 885 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: front of you. That's the only thing that you can 886 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 1: you can really do is try to not make a 887 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: mistake once they've completed the past. Um. But yeah, I 888 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 1: mean I feel like I feel like, even with some 889 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: some effery by the reps, that that you know, Oregon 890 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: getting this whim showing that they can get it done 891 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: on special teams was a was a big deal. Um. 892 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,560 Speaker 1: I almost had a heart attack. Round I almost had 893 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: a heart attack. I didn't even watch the last gig. 894 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,919 Speaker 1: I went upstairs and said good night to my daughter 895 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: because I couldn't. Um. Yeah, I'm excited to see what 896 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,120 Speaker 1: comes of Thursday. You guys, make sure that you listen 897 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: to the Thursday podcast Pack twelve Apostles. George Rister am, 898 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, appreciate your energy. Peace out, catch 899 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 1: you guys. Leg