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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys This is.

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Speaker 3: Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, dropping wisdom and

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Speaker 3: offering sizzling.

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Speaker 1: Takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Now your host new He scrugs.

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Speaker 1: Here we are media match on a Tuesday, right here

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Speaker 1: at the Star of the SWBC podcast studios. He is

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Speaker 1: clar It's hill makes that five fraternity brother still wear

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Speaker 1: in the past. Man, It's okay, you're legitimate now. Man,

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Speaker 1: you're good for the day. You're good for the day.

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Speaker 3: Man trying to get down the stairs, trying to get down,

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Speaker 3: to get down the elevator. You know you're trying to

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Speaker 3: get down. Makes you get through security. Man, you know

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to get turned away.

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Speaker 2: I am Barnick five. Come at me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, they they do. Make sure you show

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Speaker 1: up at the Star. You better be you better be legitimate.

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Speaker 2: Here so.

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Speaker 1: Everybody else got back from Charlotte, you know, yesterday, if

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Speaker 1: not Sunday.

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Speaker 4: We're just pulling in here.

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Speaker 3: Me and several Cowboy fans got stuck. Several fans, a

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Speaker 3: couple of Cowboys executives were on my flight. I stayed

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Speaker 3: because I did my podcast on Monday morning and eleven,

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Speaker 3: so I took an afternoon flight. By the time I

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Speaker 3: got on the plane, UH stormers were coming to Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Raising in Dallas and did a ground stop when all

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Speaker 3: all the planes coming to Dallas. And the bad thing

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Speaker 3: about is how they tease you, how they do you.

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Speaker 3: So we sat on the tarmac for for hour and

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Speaker 3: they say we're gonna They said, no plans come, We're

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Speaker 3: gon We're gonna sit there for another hour. And we

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Speaker 3: sat there for another hour. They were setting there for

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Speaker 3: another thirty minutes. Then they said we're gonna do playing you,

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna get you on another flight.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna do playing you right here.

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Speaker 3: And then they gave us a flight time five minutes

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Speaker 3: before we bought, well, that flight time.

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Speaker 2: Is not real.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna move it back. Then they gave us another

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Speaker 3: flight time. What time is it? And they actually boardered

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Speaker 3: us on the plane. They were like, oh good, we

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Speaker 3: finally going home at ten pm. Oh, I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: back at twelve. Well, first of all, they said we're

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Speaker 3: gonna be at midnight flight. Then they said, now we're

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Speaker 3: gonna get you on early. We're gonna clear, We got

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Speaker 3: this plane ready and we're gonna put you on the

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Speaker 3: ten PM.

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Speaker 2: And so we bought reboard the fight again.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's excited. He tid, we're gonna go through. Order's gonna

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Speaker 3: get around here, gonna get your own faster. Five minutes later,

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Speaker 3: this flight has been canceled and we deplanned again, and

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Speaker 3: and now everybody's at to help deak the whole plane,

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Speaker 3: trying to reroute people, misconnections with people, you know, trying

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Speaker 3: to find out you're gonna get home. And I actually

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Speaker 3: took a eleven o'clock flight to Nashville, and that's it's

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Speaker 3: like a ninety minute trip from Charlotte or whatever else.

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Speaker 3: And then I got on a flight from Nashville Dallas

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Speaker 4: So he stayed in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: I spent the night in Nashville the airport.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So does the airline pay for that at all?

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Speaker 3: No, they said that because it's a weather issue, that

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Speaker 3: you don't get reimbursed.

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Speaker 2: To get reimbursed.

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Speaker 3: Number one, if it's their fault, and I think number two,

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Speaker 3: if you don't take the other leg, if you counsel

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Speaker 3: your ticket.

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Speaker 2: So I still flew, so I don't get.

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Speaker 3: Reimbursed, and they didn't pay for the hotel because it

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Speaker 2: It wasn't their fault.

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Speaker 5: Ouch.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you're here.

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Speaker 2: I'm here. I made it on fumes, on fumes, yes,

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Speaker 2: on fuld, but here, I'm here for you. I'm dedicated here.

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Speaker 2: If you are show up, we appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: As the Cowboys ended up winning in Carolina thirty to fourteen,

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Speaker 1: a whole lot of guys from the Carolina area, be

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Speaker 4: You've covered a lot of teams, you've seen the homecomings.

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Speaker 1: Before, but I thought that was pretty significant because these

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean one is Rico Dodo Nout.

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Speaker 3: You know in the third straight one under your game,

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Speaker 3: you undrated Ferrag from South Carolina. Wasn't you know started

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Speaker 2: Sec before Highland Trophy candidate.

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Speaker 3: You know, undratiferaged to go to Dallas, but you know

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Speaker 3: Uh and Jayalen Brooks. Good for Jailen Brooks a lot

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Speaker 3: like the fact that Jalen Brooks. It was another example

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Speaker 3: you know, Cooper Rush he had to fumble it and

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Speaker 3: half grade second half, you know, And that's the thing

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Speaker 3: that they they don't blink in the in the sign

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Speaker 3: early in the season. You know, they called the deck

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Speaker 3: interception and Tom Brady I wouldn't go back to him

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Speaker 3: and you know, and just kept keep your head down,

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Speaker 4: For him, so that was good to see there.

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Speaker 2: And he's from up there too, and he had interception.

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Speaker 4: Yep, South Carolina. Guys in the North Carolina had had

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Speaker 4: a nice day.

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Speaker 1: So you know, you buy tickets and your family wants

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean something.

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Speaker 2: And there were a lot of Cowboy fans there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Always a big because a lot of Cowboy fans in

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Speaker 3: just you know football weather forties, you know a forties,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I always tell people it's one of the worst parking

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Speaker 4: stadium situations. It is bad.

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Speaker 1: You have to really want to go, and you better

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Speaker 1: take care of your parkings. If you buy a ticket,

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Speaker 1: you better make sure you take care of the parking

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Speaker 1: with the ticket because that is a hard place to

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Speaker 3: You stay downtown and walk. We walked from the hotel,

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Speaker 3: We walked from from the Marriott, just walked down the street.

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Speaker 4: Never done that, but okay, you never done that. Not

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I have your equipment.

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Speaker 3: But you know a lot of all the writers, we

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Speaker 2: It's not a bad walk at all.

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Speaker 4: Okay, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Coming out of that game, Mike McCarthy ties Jeff Fisher

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Speaker 1: for thirteenth all time and wins as a head coach.

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Speaker 1: And as you look at this one, it's a bad

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panther team. But the Cowboys were not favored in

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Speaker 1: the football game. They dominated the game. How do you

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Speaker 1: start to look at the job he's done. Starting cornerback

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Speaker 1: and former All Pro Treyvon Diggs not there, gonna miss

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season. You're an underdog, you go

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Speaker 1: on the road, you win the game. How do you

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Speaker 1: start to measure Mike McCarthy. And I know there's three

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Speaker 1: games left against three playoff teams right now, first place

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Speaker 4: How does Jerry start to look at him in the

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Speaker 4: coaching job?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean he talked about ready today, how

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Speaker 3: you know the arrow is going up and he gives

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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy ends Zemer high grade. You know what they do,

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Speaker 3: how they imagine the team. I've said it all along,

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Speaker 3: and I've said this team has never quit on Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 3: you know, and even during the bad times, uh, even

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Speaker 2: These guys give effort.

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Speaker 3: And you're seeing that what the fans want to tank

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Speaker 2: Pick, they won't quit. They do have a good football character.

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Speaker 3: They do, you know, you know, continue to fight and

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Speaker 3: continue to play and and and he's not lost the locker.

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Speaker 3: When people talk about with asking that's what's the media

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Speaker 3: missed the five game lose streak. Are you gonna make

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Speaker 3: a coaching change in the middle of season, Well, it's

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Speaker 3: not like they lost. He lost the team, you know,

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Speaker 3: and that's when you make a coaching change when you

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Speaker 2: Give effort, you know. But that was never the case.

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Speaker 3: And now, of course the story is, you know, uh,

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Speaker 3: are you gonna bring it back?

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Speaker 2: You know? And you know, so we don't know what

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Speaker 3: And I think Jerry also on the radios, had a

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Speaker 3: good point in which we all have to put it

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Speaker 3: a point. Yes, the Cowboys have won four or five games,

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Speaker 3: three or four games. Let's compare who they won against.

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Speaker 3: Sure too, they lost against okay, the Detroits and the

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Speaker 2: And you know it's it's not the same. I mean,

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Speaker 2: who they're playing.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about the bad Carolina team, talking about the

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Speaker 3: bad Giants team they've beaten twice. And I said all

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Speaker 3: win it all and they went on the road. Who

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Speaker 3: they play on the road outside the Steelers. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's what the Steelers at the second best quarterback in

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Speaker 3: the game. But I mean you if you would have

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Speaker 3: flopped who they played in the role they played home

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Speaker 3: that had a better home record. They had a road record,

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Speaker 3: but it's who they played when they played. All that

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Speaker 1: This is good Clarience Hill, all City Dallas with this

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Speaker 1: right now. Breaking this down, I'm going to ask you

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Speaker 1: a question I asked on the players lunch yesterday. How

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Speaker 1: do you view the coaching job for Mike McCarthy compared

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Speaker 1: to the other six and eight teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: Here are you're six and eight teams San Francisco, Kyle

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Speaker 1: here at the Cincinnati who they just played two weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: I don't see Varabel, anybody those upgrade over Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. There's not an answer.

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Speaker 3: You know that means McCarthy's coming back, Well he should,

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Speaker 2: You know, my only.

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Speaker 3: Hope they're bringing back, so giving some help, don't don't

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Speaker 3: What Mike talked about earlier, you know, talking when I

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Speaker 3: Right, And even if you bring a new coach in,

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Speaker 1: of the stories that you have been on for a

442
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Speaker 1: long time and you're you're you're close with the player is.

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Speaker 4: My back of Michael Parsons. Sunday, NFL Network came out

444
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Speaker 4: with a.

445
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Speaker 1: Report about the possibility of a Micah Parsons tree. Stephen

446
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Speaker 1: Jones addressed it, Jerry addressing today, take people through what

447
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Speaker 1: they should be listening to maybe what they should do.

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Speaker 3: First of all, the NFL Network report was confusing because

449
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 3: it opened with, yeah, well, you do things differently, or

450
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 3: you're supposed to do things differently paying money to big

451
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 3: money players like DAK and CD, and then you know

452
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Speaker 3: the results and is that something you would consider doing differently?

453
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Speaker 3: And It was confusing because if you read the story,

454
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Speaker 3: Steven specifically says, yeah, you know we got, you know,

455
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Speaker 3: some adjustments. Yes, we you know, were don't like the

456
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Speaker 3: way our sceneson has come. Yes, we have to revisit

457
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 3: everything when you're bad. But I don't see a future

458
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Speaker 3: without Mike McCarthy, I mean without Michael Parsons.

459
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Speaker 2: But when he did it on TV, he said the.

460
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Speaker 3: Cowboys could be opening the trading Michael Parsons, and that's

461
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Speaker 3: what everybody ran with.

462
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Speaker 2: And I was telling Calvin Watkinson more thing new. I said.

463
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Speaker 3: The media creates things, and I'm part of the media

464
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Speaker 3: and we have to have storylines. For the last year,

465
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Speaker 3: Steven and Jerry never said anything other We're gonna sign

466
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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott.

467
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Speaker 2: Dak Prescott's our future.

468
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 3: But yet there are people talking about they can move

469
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Speaker 3: away from Dak Prescott. They might not sign him. They

470
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Speaker 3: could do this, they can breaking. Trey Land said. They

471
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Speaker 3: never publicly said one word other than Dak Prescott's can

472
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Speaker 3: be a quarterback for the future.

473
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Speaker 2: Never one word publicly.

474
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Speaker 3: I've never heard them publicly say anything other than we

475
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Speaker 3: want Michael Parsons on our team for the future. They've

476
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Speaker 3: never said that but yet when you don't sign a guy,

477
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Speaker 3: when he's not signed with up negotiations, and as negotiations

478
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 3: get protracted, people come up with reasons why, and they're

479
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: thinking about this, and they're thinking about that, and they

480
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Speaker 3: they could do this. They never consider moving away from

481
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Speaker 3: Dak Prescott. That never considered way not signing City Lamb

482
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Speaker 3: and they're never not gonna not play sign.

483
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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons, You don't.

484
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Speaker 3: There's in their people organizations, yes, and their people in

485
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Speaker 3: the media who who who.

486
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Speaker 1: Are There's some people in the organization who have different thoughts,

487
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Speaker 1: but there the owner, they're not the owner's thoughts.

488
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Speaker 3: You know, you don't build good teams. You don't win

489
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Speaker 3: by getting rid of generational players.

490
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Speaker 2: You don't. You don't. There's there's there's.

491
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Speaker 3: No path forward to being a successful franchise by getting

492
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Speaker 3: where generational players. I don't you think you're gonna get.

493
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna get all these draft picks and this for.

494
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Speaker 2: What there's no guarantee gonna get what.

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, I go back into what when you go draft. Ultimately,

496
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Speaker 1: when you're in the draft, what does everybody say you

497
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Speaker 1: need to win in this league?

498
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Speaker 4: Franchise quarterback.

499
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Speaker 1: And then and you're doing your roster building, franchise quarterback,

500
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Speaker 1: and then who are the other when you round out

501
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: your top three priorities. It's a quarterback, is a pass rusher,

502
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Speaker 1: it's an elite left.

503
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 3: Hack at a cornerback. Yes, and that's that those are

504
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 3: the premium. But those are the positions to get paid.

505
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 4: And so you're the Cowboys. You have two of them.

506
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Speaker 4: And I look at Khalil Mack.

507
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Speaker 2: Well, he's a prime example.

508
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: And as exhibit a of Okay, John Gruten didn't want

509
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Speaker 1: to pay him, thought well, let's move off him. Let's

510
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Speaker 1: get picks that that do our rebuild. And Khalil Mack

511
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: was a former defensive play of the Year. We don't know,

512
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: we don't remember anybody they had maybe anymore, right, So

513
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Speaker 1: they got nothing out of that, and you lost a

514
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Speaker 1: good football player.

515
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Speaker 4: They couldn't replace me.

516
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Speaker 1: So show me the many times where you've replaced these

517
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Speaker 1: types of play people.

518
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Speaker 2: People are so miserized by the herschelwalggle trade. We talked

519
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: about that, the players loud, there's no more hershelwoggle trades.

520
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Speaker 4: Erry Church asked that, I'm like, you're young, young, I said,

521
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Speaker 4: what year was that?

522
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Speaker 1: Eighty nine ninety. I said, do you know if you notice,

523
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Speaker 1: there's never been that again? And I said, and that's Barr.

524
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Speaker 1: You gotta understand to what what the trade was. It

525
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: was a couple of players like I reas, a couple

526
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Speaker 1: of linebackers. It was like but it was all these

527
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: picks and they were conditional. And what people didn't realize

528
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Speaker 1: is Jimmy play Mike Lynn was, oh, we gonna cut

529
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Speaker 1: that guy. That pick was a four down becomes a

530
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Speaker 1: Tuesday next thing. You know, you've got all these draft picks.

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Speaker 4: Nobody's doing that ever again, No one is No one's

532
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 4: ever going to fall for the banana and the tail

533
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Speaker 4: pipe of the Herschelwalker trade. So that's out. That's gone.

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and and you get a team like

535
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Speaker 3: Minnesota at the time, who were contending, who thought this

536
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Speaker 3: was going to take play were they thought there was

537
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: the way we're gonna be a super Bowl team.

538
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Speaker 2: This team is struggling. We're trying to win now.

539
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: And I get that, you know, we talked about that

540
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: all the time, trying to win now, But you don't

541
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Speaker 3: mortgage all of that. It's never happened again. That's that's yeah.

542
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: The Trojan Horse.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, there's certain things that happened that people

544
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Speaker 1: all say, no, well, won't do that again. That's when

545
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: you get a death pedal that no, we're not gonna

546
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: do that again. Herschel walk, not gonna there's certain things

547
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Speaker 1: that happen like yet, we will not go down that

548
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: path again because everyone looks at oh, look at what happened,

549
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: the unintended consequences and this is this shill never happen.

550
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Speaker 2: That was before free agency. It was just a different time.

551
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 2: You are right before free agent.

552
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Speaker 4: And that's another one that matters to very much.

553
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 3: Yes, and nobody is that dumb and all that before

554
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 3: sour I mean, there was a whole lot.

555
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Speaker 2: Of different things.

556
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Speaker 3: It's just it's just not happening that that that you

557
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 3: could do something like that.

558
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, so there's this topic.

559
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Speaker 3: I just it just frustrates me when people talk about

560
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Speaker 3: getting rid of Michael Parsons and they don't look at

561
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Speaker 3: the impact and they they they take the impact for granted,

562
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Speaker 3: they take, well, you know, to my argument, what's he

563
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: done in the playoffs? What has anybody else done in

564
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: the playoffs? Is he can't do it by himself. And

565
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: they talk about his leadership, and I'll say, you know,

566
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: was Charles Hay that great leader, but look who he

567
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: had around it. He had Dion, he had Michael that show.

568
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 3: I mean, I all had people. I want more Michael Parsons.

569
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: I want more different difference making players. I want more

570
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: generational talents. I want more prospective Hall of famers. That's

571
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: how you want a Super Bowl. Not getting rid of

572
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons. Getting rid of Michael Parson. Now go get

573
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: some people to go with the run. With Michael Parsons,

574
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: that's gonna go after the ball and get to the

575
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Speaker 3: quarterback and make impact plays and open things up for

576
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Speaker 3: other guys who are gonna help.

577
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Speaker 2: You get to the next level.

578
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Speaker 1: Stay right there when you talk about what he opened

579
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Speaker 1: up for other people, and Demarian Overshown does. When Parsons

580
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: got back in the lineup, we saw him really making

581
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: a lot of plays and you just said, hey, they're

582
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: a real bright light on your defense. And unfortunately he's

583
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: out for this year, most likely misses all of next year.

584
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: But to me, that was one where you came and

585
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: he said, Hey, that's what a Micah Parsons can do

586
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: for someone else. It's what did Lawrence Taylor do for

587
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 1: other people. Lawrence Taylor was so good. Next thing, you know,

588
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: Carl Banks is sitting here getting to the quarterback. And

589
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: Carl Banks was a fantastic football player. But I think

590
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: of on tomorrow and overshowing like a Carl Banks, Hey,

591
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: you got LT over here. Now you're able to get

592
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: out here do a lot of stuff on one on

593
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: one coverage and you're out here able to make some

594
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: plays and being impactful.

595
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Speaker 3: And it is just and we point to over show.

596
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: I'm but look at osa and look at all the

597
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: other guys that are making play. The Cowboys since Michael

598
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: Parson's returned, since the return to the injury, the Cowboys

599
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: the leading league in sacks and quarterback hits.

600
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Speaker 2: And just look at this defense.

601
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Speaker 3: Look look look at you know, six sacks the other night,

602
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: and you just look at all the guys and look

603
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: at the sacks.

604
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: He's had it in the run he's made toward getting

605
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: double digitic sacks. You know on the season you know

606
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: which he had won. He's had seven and a halfs

607
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: since they returned.

608
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: I look at Bill Parcells, that's said part Bill Belichick.

609
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: I should say, who coached for Bill Parcells? And coach

610
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor and just his Bill's a part of eight

611
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning teams and watching the many Cassie share.

612
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Speaker 1: When he spoke of Michael Parsons, he spoke of him

613
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Speaker 1: in a glowing fashion, in a way he spoke about

614
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Speaker 1: Ed Reid in a way he spoke about Darrell Reeves.

615
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: And I think you and I are on the same

616
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: page when you talk about guys like Revs and.

617
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Speaker 4: Ed Reid. These were difference makers.

618
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: And he would talk about you needed to know where

619
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: Ed Reed was on the football field when they played.

620
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: Micah's that kind of player for him. And if a

621
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Speaker 1: guy like that has that kind of praise for the

622
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: football player, that's not a guy I'm trying to trade

623
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Speaker 1: in my opinion, No, that's not a guy.

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Speaker 5: No.

625
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 3: I mean, it just doesn't make any sense. And I

626
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 3: don't care what people think. And I a would say,

627
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: you think, let's be honest, and we've been in a

628
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 3: long time. Do you think everybody organization was happy with

629
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: how Michael Irvin did his business in the nineties. So

630
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: just because some people are unhappy with Michael Parsons off season,

631
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: which men never crossed legal issues, you know, never, you know, no, real.

632
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: Drama other than him, nothing nothing.

633
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: There are people who didn't like how Michael Irvin handled

634
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 3: his business in the nineties, okay, but they won titles

635
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: and and and so that's what it is that Michael

636
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: and Mike Michael Parsons talked about. He talked about his dedication,

637
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: he talked about his will to win. He talked about

638
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: he's not going to quit.

639
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: You know. I talked to him after him.

640
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 3: I walked with him to the bus, you know, and

641
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: he talked about he wants to be lead, you know,

642
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: he wants number eleven to be retired. He's had individual success.

643
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: He says, I'm in my prime. I have got individual

644
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 3: sayss left to nothing. I want to win super Bowls

645
00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: here too.

646
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: The word Jimmy Johnson used to use, and it fits

647
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: to Michael Parsons, and he didn't use the very The

648
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: word is difference maker.

649
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 4: You don't trade difference makers.

650
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: No again, That's that's what That's what's crazy to dole

651
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 3: to media people, to fans, and we need to trade

652
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: him because they mad about a podcast and I'll talked

653
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: to some about it. He has well, he's always it's

654
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 3: on a Tuesday, it's on his day. Off or it's

655
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 3: a Monday evening when he's they're not. It's not like

656
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: he's missing practice to do a podcast.

657
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: I've been in and you've worked here a long time.

658
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: I've worked in different cities, and I can recall when

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Speaker 5: I've eaten a lot of raccoon, yes the answers, yes,

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Speaker 5: and I've eaten it. I've eaten and it hunting. I've

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Speaker 5: table away from honey, and I have eaten raccoon, and yes,

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Speaker 5: it's not uncommon at all. I'll tell you something that

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Speaker 5: was one of my favorites is squirrel and it's wonderful

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Speaker 5: and my mother could do a great job of it.

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Speaker 5: And we all had our favorite pieces. And my dad

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Speaker 5: and sister. I have one sibling, a sister, and they

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Speaker 5: would fight over not fight, but my mom and I

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Speaker 5: they were just my sister and I. As for a sibling.

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Speaker 5: My mom and I wouldn't even ask for the brain.

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Speaker 5: And I squirreled, oh man, and delicious. Seriously, why are

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Speaker 5: you frowning enough?

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Speaker 4: You're from Carolina, I said, delicious, Actually, why are.

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Speaker 2: You frowned up? You're from all about my Carolina I.

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Speaker 1: Laughed about because I was telling because Church from Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: was like no, no, and then old cliffs my hair's like,

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Speaker 1: I said, look, my folks from Alabama, they this is

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Speaker 1: what they grew up poor.

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Speaker 2: So you you're not a poor thing. It's a hunting thing. Well, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm just somebody.

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Speaker 1: When he just talked about, hey, when we grew up poor,

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Speaker 1: like you went and you got stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now I don't know about them eating an these he

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Speaker 1: can say he ain't no squirrels of raccoons. But but

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Speaker 1: my dad, but pig feet, pig ears, chitling's.

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Speaker 2: All that that was.

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Speaker 3: That was I was just thinking about this, yes, because

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Speaker 3: you know, I grew up in a small town and

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Speaker 3: I I think grew growing up I had squirreling raccoon

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Speaker 3: because I had I had a cousin that that did

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Speaker 3: that sort off. You know, squirrel, But tell me something.

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Speaker 3: I was just thinking about this, which is what's what's.

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Speaker 2: You eat deer?

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Speaker 3: You rabbit? People eat rabbit. I'm just due though, right

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Speaker 3: frog legs? You haven't had frog legs? I had it

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Speaker 3: once a new okay, frog legs. Duck, It's okay, right ducks.

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Speaker 3: You know people like duck.

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Speaker 2: Lamb.

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Speaker 1: You know you love me, I love me some lamb.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well heroes, my boy, Prince Lovenies. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what what what?

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Speaker 2: What? What animal do we stop?

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Speaker 5: It?

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Speaker 3: Is there an animal to say? You know, there's some

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Speaker 3: people gator, they rab you know, you know they had

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Speaker 3: all you know, so where do we stop?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 2: So but yeah, I grew up. I haven't eaten a

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Speaker 2: long time.

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Speaker 3: But like when I was young, and you know in

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Speaker 3: the small town in the country roads and shooting where

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Speaker 3: we we had some coon and we had some squirrels

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Speaker 3: and certain we.

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Speaker 2: Have frog legs, little meat chur.

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Speaker 3: And of course you you talked about all the big stuff,

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Speaker 3: you know, you talked about the chilings and the big

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Speaker 3: feet and all of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know, that was that was what you do.

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Speaker 3: I love I don't remember boy it making it put

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Speaker 3: on that sticks.

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Speaker 2: But Jerry Jerry's from Arkansas.

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Speaker 5: J J.

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Speaker 3: Jerry is a rich man, but he grew up on

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Speaker 3: the land. Yes, he grew up, and I just not

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Speaker 3: a surprise he did. They grew up because that that

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Speaker 2: His court thing. And I like it. He knows people laughing,

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Speaker 2: but you don't care. That's who he is. He embraces

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Speaker 2: who is a loved accent.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Jerry's had a little coon in his life.

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Speaker 2: Some coon.

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Speaker 1: The beauty of it is you're from Texas, small town,

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Speaker 1: you had it. Hectman was like, no, he's.

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Speaker 2: Like the most from the city.

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Speaker 4: He's like William's chickens the most I've done that.

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Speaker 2: What about gizzards? You know people eat gizzards?

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Speaker 4: Is its liver? No, thank you, none of that, none

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Speaker 4: of that.

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Speaker 1: But in church from Pittsburgh was out out. So this

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Speaker 1: this is this this part of conversation. But I said,

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Speaker 1: I understand. Remember I literally remember the first time I

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Speaker 1: saw pigfoot? Who pickfoot?

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Speaker 2: Pig feet?

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Speaker 4: Got this pig feet. But I was like, this is foot?

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Speaker 5: What is this?

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Speaker 2: Son? It's good man, put some vinegar on that thing.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know what everyone would doing hot sauce and mustard.

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Speaker 2: No pigs put it in. I was never about that.

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Speaker 2: I was never about the ears and the tongue.

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Speaker 4: Sit up, eat that damn piggy put some muscle.

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Speaker 2: Oh you eat big ear? E cool? It was no different.

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Speaker 1: And then I but then I did tell the guys

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Speaker 1: on the players on tow. I was in New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: New Orleans got all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: So I was in New Orleans, just this place called butcher,

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Speaker 4: and they had a bacon jawl sandwich. Only, well, what's

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Speaker 4: jaw what's.

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Speaker 1: That picture of Jaws picturew And I looked at it

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Speaker 1: and the guy said, do you like bacon? Yeah, he said,

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Speaker 1: taste like bacon. He said, try it, you don't like it?

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Speaker 1: I getting no sandwich?

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 2: I tried it.

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Speaker 4: I said, man, I need to get one to go.

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Speaker 2: You got me some jaws to go.

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Speaker 4: You know what it was? It was great, tastes like bacon.

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Speaker 4: It was great. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: But I have not had any raccoon. Havn't had squirrel.

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Speaker 1: I've lived this lorn without it. I think I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna go.

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Speaker 2: What about rabbit? No, haven't had it. You don't eat easter?

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Speaker 2: But no what about Bama. You hate the squirrel. He

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Speaker 2: squirbed me. He's vincent, he squirrebed, never squirbbed me. No,

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Speaker 2: I'm man square deer me excuse me, Dear.

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Speaker 4: Somebody brought in some deer jerky one day.

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Speaker 1: Uh remember o rod Tina who worked the channel fire right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she brought some of that.

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Speaker 4: We tried, We tried to make a pick.

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Speaker 2: No, Dear Sausage is good. Man got so she got.

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Speaker 4: Hey, here's the bag. I took it, and then I

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Speaker 4: gave my home and salt gave.

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Speaker 2: It to my dog. No, no, you gotta get some deer.

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Speaker 2: It's a good deal. No, no, no, people going deer

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