WEBVTT - Fired Before She Was Hired: Meghan Markle’s Acting Role Reportedly Rescinded Over “Intense Backlash” 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Sunday, August twenty third.

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<v Speaker 2>Just days ago we had the big head scratching, surprising

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<v Speaker 2>but still exciting news Harry Megan heading back to the UK,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we heard Megan has a new acting gig.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an update already. This might not go well with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Concerns already

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<v Speaker 2>Rhodes about them moving back, how they would be received,

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<v Speaker 2>how the press would handle them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you had mentioned from the get go or I

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<v Speaker 3>was excited. I was looking at things through rose colored glasses,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess. And you were worried about Meghan Markle from

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning, and I have to admit just reading some

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<v Speaker 3>of the comments about her returning to acting, oh are horrific.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, you have some in front of you, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I can pull them up, Okay, come backlash like

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing, so books real.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the update here is that the gig we were

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<v Speaker 2>told she was reportedly getting, now we're being told reportedly

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<v Speaker 2>has already been pulled. We'll get into that more in

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<v Speaker 2>a second. But Rother, I wanted to stop because I

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<v Speaker 2>kept hearing these headlines that kept saying backlash, backlash, backlash,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't do as deep as a die sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>on the comments from the public as you often do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know where to find them sometimes. But

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<v Speaker 2>can you give me an idea of what kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff how this was being received, that she was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in a show and acting again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, people are just awful and I'm relieved, thanks for

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<v Speaker 3>the good news.

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<v Speaker 4>This is about her not getting the job.

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<v Speaker 3>Reality is that she's infamous and that she has very

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<v Speaker 3>little range as an actor, so they're just going after her.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they say, this is really really tough.

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<v Speaker 4>But people are just saying that they would refuse.

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<v Speaker 3>To watch the show, boycott the show, that they would

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<v Speaker 3>make sure the ratings were as.

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<v Speaker 4>As low as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>People are just making fun of her and calling her

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<v Speaker 3>an actress like in her life that she's tried to put.

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<v Speaker 4>On like just it's mean, it's mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Not sure how she expected to be embraced by UK

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<v Speaker 3>viewers after she globally trashed their monarchy to improve her

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<v Speaker 3>Q score.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't realize how much people were just sarcastic and callous

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<v Speaker 3>about her.

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<v Speaker 1>That last one.

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<v Speaker 2>I can kind of understand, Okay, I mean, in all seriousness,

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<v Speaker 2>you were welcome into a family. I understand you had

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<v Speaker 2>your experience, but Robes, did you have to go blast

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<v Speaker 2>the family? I won't even talk shit about your dad

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<v Speaker 2>on his podcast because I need to get along with him,

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<v Speaker 2>right right, I mean just not mister Robot. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have anything to say. I'm just saying the point there

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<v Speaker 2>is does she really think? And maybe this will take

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<v Speaker 2>more time, but Robes, this was self imposed exile. They ran,

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<v Speaker 2>they escaped from the UK, and Robes, they said some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff about the royal family.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if it's all true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is as a family member and tough, and

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<v Speaker 2>what are we supposed to say? She has the right

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<v Speaker 2>to say and all this there is some hurt, hurt

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<v Speaker 2>feelings throwing the fact that she doesn't look like the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of them and she has a mountain to climb.

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<v Speaker 2>But that last comment, at least I would go okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I can actually see why some people are just completely

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<v Speaker 2>turned off.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like, just from what I'm I'm reading, people

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<v Speaker 3>are it just seems unwilling to even reconsider what they

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<v Speaker 3>think about her. She has no grace, she looks so awkward,

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<v Speaker 3>she's out of place next to Harry. That kind of

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<v Speaker 3>sounds racist right to me in and of just outside.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even think people realize so much why they

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<v Speaker 4>hate her. I mean, yes, you can point.

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<v Speaker 3>To this, but there's just this strange she has a

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<v Speaker 3>magnet for hate. I look, I don't feel I'm curious.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand why people are upset, but to blame her,

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<v Speaker 3>and to not even bring Harry into it, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>I think he gets a pass, like he's just this

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<v Speaker 3>love sick dummy who does whatever me and old Meghan

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<v Speaker 3>makes him do.

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<v Speaker 4>I hate that narrative as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But it goes it's easier to understand because he's our

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the UK. He's our guy. Look how he's

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<v Speaker 1>been poisoned, Look how.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been Right, she's the outsider who came in as

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<v Speaker 2>an outside outsider. Right, This is she's she's bringing. Are

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<v Speaker 2>the kids going to be black?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the kind of conversations she said was happening

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<v Speaker 2>in Buckingham Palace, for God's sakes.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet you have comments even after everybody knows all

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<v Speaker 3>of that. This one just says I have always disliked her?

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<v Speaker 4>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, some people just aren't a cup of tea

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<v Speaker 2>I've just never gone on and written a comment necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>about it. But here we go that challenge. Ro So

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<v Speaker 2>when we heard they were moving back, we said, dear

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<v Speaker 2>Lord Jesus, why you're immediately excited? Oh my, Archie and

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<v Speaker 2>Lilla Beck get to hang out with Charlotte and the

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<v Speaker 2>cousins and all this. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the.

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<v Speaker 2>Possibility of a reconciliation with the UK royal family. Love it,

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<v Speaker 2>love it, love it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why people are against it. I understand

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<v Speaker 4>there were hurt feelings. I am not.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think it's a It might be an

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<v Speaker 3>impossible mountain to climb to imagine that William and Kate

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<v Speaker 3>would feel comfortable around them, knowing they write books and

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<v Speaker 3>tell interviews.

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<v Speaker 5>This is impossible because when you now have to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>because we have been not comparing this in any way,

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<v Speaker 5>but in a small, tiny way, we know what it's

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<v Speaker 5>like to not be able to trust people around you

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<v Speaker 5>because you know they have loose lips, because you know

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<v Speaker 5>that they will use something against you, perhaps if you

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<v Speaker 5>make them mad.

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<v Speaker 3>And I believe Harry more than Megan even has proven

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<v Speaker 3>that he's willing to do that. And so that's why

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<v Speaker 3>could you ever invite them in and feel comfortable, let

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<v Speaker 3>your guard down, tell them what you really think and feel.

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<v Speaker 1>You can know.

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<v Speaker 3>He wrote all the bad stuff that happened, So yes,

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<v Speaker 3>on that level it, I get it. But I'm still

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<v Speaker 3>rooting for the best possible scenario where they all can

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<v Speaker 3>at least tolerate each other and the kids who have

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with any of this have an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to have relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the best possible scenario here is that all those

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<v Speaker 2>kids can hang out with Grandpa who's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the great health.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, and look, if.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the grandfather, excuse me, the grandchild of the King

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<v Speaker 2>of England, you should That is just a privilege and

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity that shouldn't be denied to kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just is.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, whatever you think of Megan, I don't wish.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I really don't wish anyone a.

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<v Speaker 3>Terrible life for someone who has to continually pay for

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<v Speaker 3>something they did wrong. I hate that about our society

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<v Speaker 3>that that just makes us all feel better about ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>to say, shame, shame, shame. But the reality is I

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<v Speaker 3>would love for her to see to find an acting role,

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<v Speaker 3>to feel fulfilled, to have Harry feel like he's doing

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<v Speaker 3>what he loves and serving others in his charitable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I hope that for them, So I guess

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<v Speaker 4>purpose sounds great. I'm a little.

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<v Speaker 3>Taken aback by just how people are rooting for their

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<v Speaker 3>continue pain and suffering.

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<v Speaker 1>That part I will never understand.

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<v Speaker 2>The part about some people still not being crazy about

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<v Speaker 2>these two.

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<v Speaker 1>I can understand call for.

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<v Speaker 3>A boycott of a show because she's on it, and

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<v Speaker 3>to wish for its ruin and its low ratings because

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<v Speaker 3>she's on it.

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<v Speaker 4>That is what I don't do. What did she do

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<v Speaker 4>to you?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter if that's the retalities or nation of

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<v Speaker 2>or nature of what social media has brought us. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like somebody I don't even know, I can

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<v Speaker 2>start a campaign to actually impact that person and hurt

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<v Speaker 2>that person and cost them a job that I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>We've given that power away.

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<v Speaker 2>We are very much largely out of jobs at ABC

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<v Speaker 2>because not because of something we did, but because of

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<v Speaker 2>how it was viewed in the public and how it

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<v Speaker 2>was being talked about to where companies got scared. This

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<v Speaker 2>and that's okay, we've experienced, this happened, Should it should permitted?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this was what day was it, babe? This was

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<v Speaker 1>just two days ago? What was it? She got the gig?

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<v Speaker 3>The news came out I think late Friday that she

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<v Speaker 3>got the gig.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, yes, oh, one day she got the gig.

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<v Speaker 3>The next day there was such quote intense backlash.

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<v Speaker 4>It was reportedly okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the gig was supposed to be a significant one

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<v Speaker 2>on a show called The Gentleman, which is on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 2>which is Guy Richie's show stars Theo James. It's been

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<v Speaker 2>on for now two seasons, but the second season hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>started yet. Robes supposed to premiere on September third. I

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<v Speaker 2>do believe the report was that she Megan Marco was

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a significant role in the third season,

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<v Speaker 2>which also hasn't even been announced yet. So this was

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<v Speaker 2>Robes initially started with bubbling up a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 2>then it became more and more real. Hollywood reporters quote,

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<v Speaker 2>Megan is in advanced discussions to join Guy Richie's The Gentleman. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>roads a lot of people applaud it. This gives her

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<v Speaker 2>a purpose and this also if she has something to

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<v Speaker 2>do there. This was probably easier for her to say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Harry let's go back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I was excited again. I'm shocked at how many people.

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<v Speaker 3>Felt the exact opposite, to the point that they created

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<v Speaker 3>a campaign of hate and it just canceled.

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<v Speaker 4>Culture just took over.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the sad thing is we see these

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<v Speaker 3>companies respond and empower these I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 3>the vocal minority. It sounds like maybe it was a

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<v Speaker 3>vocal majority. But look, I don't think the majority of

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<v Speaker 3>people right in and make comments and let their feelings

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<v Speaker 3>be known. I think the majority of people, I do believe,

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<v Speaker 3>are willing to give people a second chance.

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<v Speaker 4>But because the.

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<v Speaker 3>Folks who aren't like that, who are the vocal, who

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<v Speaker 3>will go on and just slander and attack and threaten

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<v Speaker 3>come companies, that they end up being wildly empowered by

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<v Speaker 3>those companies.

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<v Speaker 2>We will I'm not sure how much more we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>confirmed ropes on exactly what happened behind the scenes. But

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<v Speaker 2>this came to us initially the reports about her being

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<v Speaker 2>a part of this show, and I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>an Australian outlet, and then Tina Brown is the one

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people might know that name. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you could probably at this point she's a legendary royal

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<v Speaker 2>watcher and journalists.

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<v Speaker 1>In the UK and in the US ropes.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't become editor in chief of some of the

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<v Speaker 2>places she's been editor in chief and not have a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty stirling reputation.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fair to say. Yes, she's the former editor in

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<v Speaker 4>chief of Vanity Fair.

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<v Speaker 3>She actually revamped The New Yorker completely and co created

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<v Speaker 3>The Daily Beast.

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<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 3>So yes, that is she has an imprint and has

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<v Speaker 3>influenced some of the biggest media publications in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why people listen, and that's why we're listening

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<v Speaker 2>now because she has now reported Robes that this offer

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<v Speaker 2>that Megan Marco got has been pulled. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>it was Friday. We were only hearing this. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I started seeing it late Friday and then and

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<v Speaker 3>then Tina Brown puts out this on Saturday. I learned

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<v Speaker 3>this morning that the casting of Megan Markle in season

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<v Speaker 3>three of Guy Ritchie's Netflix series The Gentleman has been withdrawn.

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<v Speaker 3>The backlash in the UK was so intense it became

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<v Speaker 3>untenable to go forward. This does not bode well for

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<v Speaker 3>Megan's acting comeback in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>An acting comeback, who says she wanted to act in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place, because she told us otherwise at the

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<v Speaker 2>essays like we were sitting down at tea. But she

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<v Speaker 2>told Variety magazine back in twenty twenty two she is

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<v Speaker 2>quote done. I guess never say nuver, but my intention

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<v Speaker 2>is to absolutely not. It sounds like bro that hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>heard much about her possibly trying to dip a toe

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<v Speaker 2>back into acting. It seems like she was very much

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<v Speaker 2>into her lifestyle brand building that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but things were unraveling with Netflix. They announced the

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<v Speaker 3>end of their deal with her lifestyle brand and they

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<v Speaker 3>made her show just a one off basically. And look,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you and I have said similar things that

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<v Speaker 3>we have no intention of going back into mainstream media,

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<v Speaker 3>but if the right offer came, we would absolutely consider it,

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<v Speaker 3>and we would absolutely potentially get back into broadcasting. But

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<v Speaker 3>right now we don't have any we're not seeking it out,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not looking to do it. But I think you

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<v Speaker 3>leave the door open, and that seems like what she did.

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<v Speaker 3>She I didn't realize this, but she's got a small

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<v Speaker 3>cameo role. She plays herself obviously, that's what a cameo

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<v Speaker 3>role is in this new comedy on Amazon, Close Personal Friends.

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<v Speaker 4>It stars Jack Quaid, Brie Larson. We don't have a

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<v Speaker 4>release date yet.

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't even know she had done that, But

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that was reported a few months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>But it sounded like she just showed up and stood

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<v Speaker 2>there as the princess, and yes.

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<v Speaker 3>She's dipping her toe into it, but that was maybe

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<v Speaker 3>just that, you know, that was maybe a little crack

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<v Speaker 3>in the door, and then this would have been obviously

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<v Speaker 3>a much different, much bigger and really a prestigious role

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<v Speaker 3>that she would be taking off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This he was THEO James and the Monkey, right, We

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<v Speaker 2>love that movie. There's other stuff he's known for, but

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<v Speaker 2>that was the one that we are fans of. If

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't seen it, he plays twin brothers. And there's

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<v Speaker 2>a killer monkey toy monkey by the way, so check

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<v Speaker 2>out if you get a chance. Did you realize your

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<v Speaker 2>boy was in The Gentleman, the show on Netflix, Your

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<v Speaker 2>boy Boy your favorite actor, John Carlo? Oh no, he

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<v Speaker 2>has several episodes in that First Sea.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well we have to watch that. Maybe we just

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<v Speaker 4>have to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I didn't know. When you were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it the other day, I said she didn't even mention it.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know obviously I would have mentioned.

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<v Speaker 2>That this was what does this do? What does this

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<v Speaker 2>mean for the move? Does it even matter?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this? I don't know how real was it.

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<v Speaker 2>To her in the first place, But no matter what

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<v Speaker 2>and how much of this was one hundred percent true

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<v Speaker 2>or not, this is an awful, awful way of start.

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<v Speaker 1>Robes.

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<v Speaker 2>Days after this announcement that you're even going back as

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<v Speaker 2>an announcement, but you got a new gig, and right

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<v Speaker 2>after there's an announcement that it was taken it was withdrawn?

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<v Speaker 3>Is the word's and people are celebrating that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the fact.

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<v Speaker 4>Ew that's what I hate too, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>She's not even there yet and this is just a

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<v Speaker 2>big ugly and it's embarrassing. That doesn't feel well for her.

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<v Speaker 2>She actually feels like maybe she had a gig, even

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<v Speaker 2>if it's not true. God, these people feel that they

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<v Speaker 2>now think I've been humiliated again.

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<v Speaker 3>They think they've won and they've beaten me once again.

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<v Speaker 3>They're they're they're they're keeping me down where I belong.

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<v Speaker 3>That has to feel very overwhelming. No, I do I

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<v Speaker 3>do feel for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Robes, I feel for her now. In a way

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<v Speaker 2>that I would have to say I was fairly indifferent.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved their wedding, mainly because of the brother of

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<v Speaker 2>the North Carolina passed to the black guy.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, it was gorgeous, it was it's cool, it

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<v Speaker 1>was celebratory.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to see her mom and that Rolls Royce,

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<v Speaker 2>this black woman from Compton rolling around in the Queen's car.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved it, and I've been rooting for them, But Robes,

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<v Speaker 2>there haven't been a lot of headlines that make you

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<v Speaker 2>root for them because it's the way they complain.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not getting onto them.

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<v Speaker 2>They have every right, but Robes, all the headlines were

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<v Speaker 2>they complained about this, They accused of this. He's suing

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<v Speaker 2>tabloids for that.

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<v Speaker 3>They've made a whole big victim like martyr.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it might not be true, baby, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>at least the impression, at least publicly is that.

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<v Speaker 1>But now it's too much.

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<v Speaker 2>It was my first thought when they were moving back

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<v Speaker 2>making baby, Oh no, what are they going to do

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<v Speaker 2>to this woman? She already talked about her mental health.

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<v Speaker 2>Is she not and wanting to leave in the first place,

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<v Speaker 2>even with the family. Then she said Kate was not

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily kind to her.

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<v Speaker 3>And people don't be saying bad things about Kate. This

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<v Speaker 3>woman survived cancer. She's an amazing mother, She's the picture

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<v Speaker 3>of perfection and everyone loves her. You cannot, she cannot.

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<v Speaker 3>It could all be true. You cannot. You cannot say

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<v Speaker 3>what she said.

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<v Speaker 1>We were sharing those statistics.

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<v Speaker 2>They do take polls on the favorability and popularity of

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<v Speaker 2>the Royals as a whole. List of all some cousins

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle, whatever, but top to bottom. The top

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<v Speaker 2>two are William and Kate. The bottom two are Megan

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<v Speaker 2>and Prince Andrew excuse me, Andrew, sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>Andrew formally known as Prince Andrew.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Robes, she's next to last in the bottom, and

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<v Speaker 2>Kate is next to the top. You can't go after

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<v Speaker 2>this woman that Robes. Kate could save her or tank

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<v Speaker 2>her if she wants to.

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<v Speaker 4>Kate could save her.

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<v Speaker 1>She could.

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<v Speaker 3>William and Kate are honestly the only two people who

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<v Speaker 3>could change the fate of Harry Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Read that book and you tell me, But stay here, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>when we come back. Yes, Tina Brown was the one

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<v Speaker 2>who told us all that the gig had been taken

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<v Speaker 2>now we're gonna read for you in just a second

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<v Speaker 2>her big exclusive announcement that Megan had gotten a job

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<v Speaker 2>in the first place. They here we continue on this Sunday,

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<v Speaker 2>August twenty third, is getting word that apparently the gig

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<v Speaker 2>that Megan Marco was getting to act has already been

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<v Speaker 2>pulled after public backlash in the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>Robes Tina Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>We discussed and we've if you've worked in this business

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<v Speaker 2>any number of years, you have come across Tina Brown. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>of course we have, but she did ro She's made

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<v Speaker 2>the announcement today that the gig had been withdrawn, But

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<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to butt it up against the announcement

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<v Speaker 2>from yesterday that she had gotten the job.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the exclusive Meghan has a job exclamation points.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the time of the article, right, and she

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<v Speaker 3>said there has been a fire hose of explanations for

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<v Speaker 3>the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's bombshell return to England

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<v Speaker 3>after six years in the hellishly serene wilderness of Montecito.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of nice out there to me, but okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's one way to put it.

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<v Speaker 4>Hellishly serene. I think it's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll live there any day, she goes on to write,

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<v Speaker 3>So here's this scoop about the Sussex Thunderbolt.

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<v Speaker 4>I can confirm Meghan has a job.

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<v Speaker 3>The identity of the show is not yet clear, but

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<v Speaker 3>it allows Harry at last to get her buy in

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<v Speaker 3>for this growing desire to get the hell out of

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<v Speaker 3>Paradise and go home to the world.

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<v Speaker 4>He understands.

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<v Speaker 1>I was hopeful, babe, I was too, but I was fearful.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't think it would start already.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, and I just I think, like in their minds,

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<v Speaker 3>or in her mind, maybe even she thinks, maybe this

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<v Speaker 3>is a new start, a fresh start, we can repair damage,

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<v Speaker 3>we can get going. And before they even get there,

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<v Speaker 3>the not I don't even think hours passed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>was it a full twenty four hours before we got

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<v Speaker 3>the she has a job too? They've pulled the job.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just it's such a quick knee jerk reaction. I

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<v Speaker 3>actually we don't know what was going on in Netflix

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<v Speaker 3>or with the production, or why they made the call,

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<v Speaker 3>how this got leaked in the first place, because I

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<v Speaker 3>kept thinking, if it wasn't leaked, if she was already

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<v Speaker 3>on the set, like, let it just let's just see

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<v Speaker 3>what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>But we see this.

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<v Speaker 3>All the time, and we experience this personally, this rush

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<v Speaker 3>to quickly try to repair a situation by just yanking

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<v Speaker 3>somebody out and pulling the rug out from underneath them

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<v Speaker 3>and truly ruining their reputations in their lives because you're

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<v Speaker 3>so quick to react. Because some people are commenting, I

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<v Speaker 3>hate seeing that. It might be so much more complex

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<v Speaker 3>than that. But from the outside looking in, it feels

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<v Speaker 3>like that might be what happened because of the swiftness

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<v Speaker 3>of the about face, and it just that part of

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<v Speaker 3>it makes me sad. Give it a beat, Like you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have to make knee jerk reactions, and oftentimes when

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<v Speaker 3>you do, they're not the right ones.

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<v Speaker 1>How does she get in a room with Kate? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What is that? Can they even interact? Is there any

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<v Speaker 2>possibility because some of the things that have been said

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<v Speaker 2>by Harry Megan, which can all be true, certainly they're right,

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<v Speaker 2>But is it for the sake of family stuff you

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<v Speaker 2>put out publicly to be hashed out rohab It's not

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<v Speaker 2>just in an interview. This stuff is like documented history

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<v Speaker 2>now in books that they've written.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, and I even if it's all true and let's

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<v Speaker 3>just operate under the presumption that it is everything Harry

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<v Speaker 3>wrote was true. Everything they've said to Oprah, everything they've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about publicly, all happened exactly the way they said

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<v Speaker 3>it did. I still think that they owe an apology

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<v Speaker 3>to the people who they publicly maligned, because I know

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<v Speaker 3>truth might protect you in a defamation suit, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to protect you in a when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to trust and rebuilding damaged relationships where one party feels betrayed.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have a beef, say it with me, But

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<v Speaker 3>to retaliate publicly takes things to a whole new level.

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<v Speaker 3>And I do think an apology has to be offered

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<v Speaker 3>for doing that in order for they don't have to,

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<v Speaker 3>But if they want a relationship with them, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like that would have to be on the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that need to be public? Man? This is I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, probes.

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<v Speaker 2>The stuff they talk They flat out called the family

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<v Speaker 2>racist and in how they were dealing with and need

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<v Speaker 2>to look behind the baby's ears to see if the

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<v Speaker 2>baby going to people that kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of a thing, and Kate was like a mean girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Pro that's a how do you repair that? How do

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<v Speaker 2>you apologize for that? I didn't mean what I said,

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<v Speaker 2>or I shouldn't have said it, but it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>they're standing by that thing. I don't know Robes how

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<v Speaker 2>this gets worked out, but that is key for me.

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<v Speaker 2>How can Kate and Megan Markle get in the same

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<v Speaker 2>room and it was Kate even would be open to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this is tough. I hate it for Megan morcle.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think any of these are bad people. Probably not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's interesting because I was telling you Martha Stewart

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<v Speaker 3>had a big cover on People magazine and she was

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<v Speaker 3>specifically asked about Megan Markle and asked what Martha Stewart

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<v Speaker 3>felt about Megan stepping into your space with her own

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<v Speaker 3>cooking show. And I thought the way Martha put it,

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<v Speaker 3>like a lot of people made something of it, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was actually on point. She said, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're an actress, it's hard to then transition to a

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<v Speaker 3>princess and then from a princess into a homemaking guru

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<v Speaker 3>on a television show.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't sort of follow, so go from there.

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<v Speaker 3>She was just saying she's not surprised, perhaps by the

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<v Speaker 3>lack of success she found in that space because the

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<v Speaker 3>transitions she's trying to make are are really hard, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard to bring people along with you who are

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<v Speaker 3>trying to even those who are rooting for you, for

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<v Speaker 3>it to feel authentic, for it to not feel like

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<v Speaker 3>a money grab or a desperate attempt to try and

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<v Speaker 3>basically change the narrative without actually addressing what's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the order again, from a princess to to

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<v Speaker 1>what she said?

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<v Speaker 3>She said, if you're an actress, actress, it's then hard

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<v Speaker 3>to transition to a princess, and so, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>agree with that. And then from a princess into a

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<v Speaker 3>homemaking guru on a television show.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, it just doesn't feel authentic. I guess is part

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<v Speaker 4>of it. And she wasn't prepared for any of them.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that is the inference that, you know, how

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<v Speaker 3>can you prepare to be a princess if you've known

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<v Speaker 3>nothing about a royal life, You've known nothing about that

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<v Speaker 3>country's history or what it's like to be British, let

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<v Speaker 3>alone to be you know, in this world of aristocrats,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just a very different So, yeah, she was out

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<v Speaker 3>of her league and out of her comfort zone. And

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<v Speaker 3>then she tries to transition to something else that she

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't have any at least known experience or expertise in,

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<v Speaker 3>and she wants us to now say, oh, tell us

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<v Speaker 3>what to do, even though we don't really know what

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<v Speaker 3>your credentials are.

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<v Speaker 1>Was she ever adored.

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<v Speaker 2>In the UK, like very beginning, at the very beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I remember that initial press conference when they when

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<v Speaker 3>they when she was smiling, she had the white coat

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<v Speaker 3>and they stood out in front of Kensington Palace and

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<v Speaker 3>they said they were engaged, and everybody was excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I don't remember that, Oh I do, But she

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<v Speaker 1>did have moments.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously race played into it and there could be some

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<v Speaker 2>elements of that, but I thought generally speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>She was She wasn't always just seen as a no

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<v Speaker 1>no in.

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<v Speaker 4>The early days.

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<v Speaker 3>I think people were excited at the romance and people

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<v Speaker 3>were kind of like, holy hell, he's he's going to

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<v Speaker 3>marry a divorce a who's black and American. It was

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<v Speaker 3>like the triple the opposite of a triple threat. She

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<v Speaker 3>had three strikes against her, and yet he loved her

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<v Speaker 3>and they did seem in love and happy, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think people were like, okay, okay, let's see what.

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<v Speaker 2>Happened to overcome those obvious. There is obvious differences and

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<v Speaker 2>challenges that are gonna come. I think there was like

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<v Speaker 2>not a forbidden love, but an unlikely one and unlikely

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<v Speaker 2>but there is one I ever seen before.

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<v Speaker 1>But you stop. I'm trying to come up with the

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<v Speaker 1>right word.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was again almost forbidden, almost one of these

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<v Speaker 2>things you're not supposed This isn't supposed to work, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna overcome all these challenges, even stuff from our family.

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<v Speaker 2>It made you almost root for Wow, this is real.

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<v Speaker 2>They are passionate and they want this thing. It was

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<v Speaker 2>that wedding. I was over the top. I was so

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<v Speaker 2>ready to rude for these two in every way, shape

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<v Speaker 2>and form, and then things just started to unravel. Does

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<v Speaker 2>she I was looking forward to there being a black princess.

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<v Speaker 2>I was, I really really want that.

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<v Speaker 4>Where it is one oh Megan?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, she is technically a black princess and her daughter

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<v Speaker 3>Lilla bet. I mean, I haven't seen her face, but

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<v Speaker 3>she's got red soft curls.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she's technically a black prince.

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<v Speaker 2>She's technically a black sweeart. She lives in southern California.

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<v Speaker 2>There are if I asked anyone from LA to name.

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<v Speaker 1>Royalty.

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<v Speaker 2>Halle Berry would be on the list they would name

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<v Speaker 2>we have royalty. That was part of some people are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about ropes. You're nothing to us in southern California.

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<v Speaker 2>You saint the UK, we got Tom Holland, we guys

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<v Speaker 2>in Deah, Okay. People just aren't generally impressed. You aren't

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<v Speaker 2>welcomed in that way.

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<v Speaker 3>You aren't.

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<v Speaker 4>You didn't earn it in a place of.

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<v Speaker 1>Superstars, right, they say that played into some of this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know yet out of here, we ain't being received here. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now you go back to the UK, you're not being received.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is home for these people?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And you know what, that's a tough thing when

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<v Speaker 3>you don't feel anchored anywhere and you don't feel welcome anywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>So my heart goes out to both of them, to

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<v Speaker 4>all four of them.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope they figure it out, because everyone should feel

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<v Speaker 3>welcome at home, wherever.

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<v Speaker 2>Home may be for them. But that is the updates

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<v Speaker 2>the gig that we were just told she got. We

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<v Speaker 2>were also just told she don't get no more because

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<v Speaker 2>people don't like Megan. Apparently with that, folks, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to know that niggave no people don't like Megan

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<v Speaker 2>We're rooting for you girl. Okay, we're absolutely rooting with

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<v Speaker 2>this night. All right with that, folks, we appreciate your listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm TJ. That's Robes. We'll talk to you