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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, wong time. What is up? Welcome to another

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Speaker 1: edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's made your Man, MG.

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grant still masking, socially distancing, win and where necessary

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Speaker 1: joint as always by Michael F. Florio and producer Steve

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Speaker 1: and uh Floria works a couple of days away from

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I will wait till the end of

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Speaker 1: the show to get your predictions on it. But, um,

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Speaker 1: I mean, is the excitement building? I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: the Bills, But in terms of this game, are you

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Speaker 1: starting to get excited about it? How you feeling? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I am, um, I was excited about the Bills. Um,

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Speaker 1: but for what it's worth, like my everyone, not just me,

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Speaker 1: but my preseason pick was the Chiefs to win the

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Speaker 1: going against him and just feeling helpless trying to watch

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Speaker 1: interesting experience. But I am yeah. This second week, like

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Speaker 1: the first week after it, I was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl. I'm the anticipation is building and

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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to it. I think could be

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Speaker 1: a classic super Bowl. If there's any sort of consolation

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Speaker 1: for you, um, Having worked at the NFL for a

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Speaker 1: while now, the one thing I do know is the

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Speaker 1: worst thing about working at the NFL is when your

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Speaker 1: just replays the game like every day for a week.

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Speaker 1: And now I've experienced that twice. Right since I've been there,

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners have been to and lost two Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: They lost that one to the Ravens where the lights

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Speaker 1: went out in the Super Dome and then obviously last

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Speaker 1: year losing to the Chiefs. Uh. And it is the

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Speaker 1: week of watching your team lose the same game over

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Speaker 1: your team, they try to like like like stole you

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and it just it doesn't work. It's

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Speaker 1: it almost makes it worse. It is it is. It's

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Speaker 1: like everybody it's like, you know, it's like you lost

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Speaker 1: and you're like thanks, you know, you just you would

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Speaker 1: really just prefer, like I don't mind being at work,

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Speaker 1: but I would just prefer that everybody turn their TVs

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Speaker 1: Was there one of the two that that hurts you

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Speaker 1: Um from the other thing about that? That burns me

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Speaker 1: before we actually get into because we're gonna talk some

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Speaker 1: running backs on this show, First of all, if you

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Speaker 1: We have clips from this show. We have just random

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Speaker 1: v O D stuff that we're doing all off season long.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of good stuff there. And it's not

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Speaker 1: just me and Florida, Adam Ranks shows up. There can

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Speaker 1: that out if you can. Um. The other thing that

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Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy. But did you hear his quote from this

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Speaker 1: he has done as a fantasy asset now right? Pretty much? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: going to do more often than not. If you don't

429
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,760
Speaker 1: love it, then you're probably not going to change your

430
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 1: mind about it UM In the end, Now that we

431
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,480
Speaker 1: can look back and have the benefit of hindsight, did

432
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,240
Speaker 1: this end up being a good zero RB year for

433
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: people who chose that draft strategy? See? For me, my

434
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 1: take after the year was no, because I was like,

435
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: outside of James Robinson, who unless you you've had a

436
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: feeling about him after Week one, you probably missed out

437
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: on him, where was there like a breakout, great running

438
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: back off the waiver wire? It just didn't happen this year.

439
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: And then someone on Twitter, Davis Maddick, another fantasy analyst,

440
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 1: tweeted me and he was like, it was actually a

441
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 1: really good year because there was you know, like two

442
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 1: weeks of like a savonan Akman and then a couple

443
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: of weeks of Mike Davis and a couple of weeks

444
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: of Wayne Gollman and like you could keep riding the

445
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: waiver wire and filling in the position, and and I

446
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 1: was thinking, like not everyone. First of all, if you're

447
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: in the league with like fab or anything like that,

448
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: good luck, because you're gonna blow it all by by

449
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 1: week five trying to keep your running backs filled in.

450
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 1: But also like that is a lot of work and

451
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: a lot of commitment and a lot of risk to

452
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 1: just trying to find the hot waiver wire hand each week,

453
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: because you're gonna be wrong some weeks and it's going

454
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 1: to cost you. So I do think it is one

455
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: of those things that you could make it a good

456
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,199
Speaker 1: or a bad argument. But for me, I want the

457
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 1: security at the running back position where I know each

458
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: week I have a player, especially as my RB one

459
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: that is gonna get you know, somewhere around twenty touches

460
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: each week. I don't think any of those waiver wire

461
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: guys were able to give you that. So for me,

462
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a good year. I just

463
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm sort of with you on that because I'm looking

464
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: at the guys that you know, even in the top twenty, right,

465
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 1: these are guys that were generally drafted. You mean you have,

466
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, you've got James Robinson who people probably

467
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: picked up after the first week. Um, you know, you

468
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,479
Speaker 1: got Mike Davis who finished pretty high. But again, chances

469
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: are that guy know a person in your league who

470
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: had Mike Davis. It's probably somebody who had Christian McCaffrey.

471
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: And we also kept waiting for CMC to sort of

472
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: come back week after week. And that's sort of that

473
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: that little saga kind of dragged on a little bit. Um.

474
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: But beyond that one, I'm looking at J. D. Mckissic

475
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: maybe nahm hinz I mean, but even then, Um, those

476
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: are sort of tough plays. Uh. And I think to

477
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: your point about trying to ride the waiver wire, h

478
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: either you were bloying your fab budget early on or

479
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: just look, even if you, you know, do a more

480
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: traditional waiver wire setup, you don't necessarily have the priority

481
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: every week to go out and get one of these guys. Uh.

482
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 1: If you did land one, you know, did you did

483
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 1: you play them at the right time? Did you hold

484
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: onto them too long? Um? There's a lot of things

485
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: there that I think sort of made it made it

486
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: kind of tricky. But again, I think I don't know

487
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: that we're ever going to change minds. Right. If you

488
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: love zero RB and you are a disciple of that,

489
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: you probably did find a way to make it work

490
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: to your benefit, and you probably will going to put

491
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: in the work week to week to go out and

492
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: play the waivers to do that. Um. But if you

493
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: were then, you know, you probably had a lot of

494
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: weeks where I don't know who were you starting at

495
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: running back you were, you would probably trying to plug

496
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: in Zack Moss or Frank Gore or something. In the

497
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: Fantasy Live League, I lost se Quon Barkley, and then

498
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 1: for a large structure of the season, I did not

499
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: have Chris Carson, and I was very active on the

500
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: waiver wire everything the week, and filling the running back

501
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: position was a nightmare that I would not want to

502
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 1: do again. I had weeks where I was starting le

503
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: Michael p Rhyan, Frank Bore like like there there were

504
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: sometimes where it hit and you would find a hot

505
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: like I had Wayne Gollman and that was fun for

506
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, like a few weeks. But there was a

507
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: lot of misses too. And I think the zero when

508
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: you're making the case four zero RB, you're going to

509
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,719
Speaker 1: focus on those hits, there was a lot of misses

510
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: that came with it too. So when I was thinking

511
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: about this last night to it, the next thing I

512
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: thought about was we talked about depth at positions, and

513
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 1: you know, we always just sort of reflectively say, hey,

514
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: running back is deep, and thinking about this made me think, Okay,

515
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: is running back actually deep or there's just a lot

516
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: of them to Keeping in mind that in most leagues

517
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: you have to start at least two, you have the option,

518
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: I guess, to start a third maybe if if you

519
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: want to start one at your flex position. So in

520
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: a twelve team league, that depletes the number of running

521
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: backs really quick. And I would dare say that after

522
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: you get past I don't know, the running back twelve thirteen, Um,

523
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: there's a pretty good drop off in terms of week

524
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: to week consistency. So it just makes me wonder, are

525
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 1: it makes me feel like the position isn't as deep

526
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: as we say it is. There just happens to be

527
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: a lot of running backs because teams use so many

528
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: running backs, and maybe that should change the way we

529
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: think about the position. Uh, maybe that changes I don't

530
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: know if that makes you more of a zero RB

531
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: proponent or less of one, But I just feel like

532
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: that's the thing we sort of have to revisit when

533
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 1: we get into draft season next year. It's changed. Like

534
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: last summer, I completely changed my approach because I used

535
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, maybe I can grab a running

536
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: back in one that I like falls like you know,

537
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,719
Speaker 1: first or second round. But I was not afraid of

538
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: just starting wide receiver wide receiver or at least having

539
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: one wide receiver in my first two picks. And then

540
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: last year, like looking at drafts early in the summer,

541
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: I was like, from round three on, wide receiver has

542
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: not only more depth, but they're just so much better

543
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: than all the available running backs. So I routinely last

544
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: year with starting drafts with two, maybe even three running backs.

545
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: It doesn't always work out because of injuries or whatever,

546
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: but I never felt weak at wide receiver, especially throughout

547
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 1: the year, because they hit on the waiver wire alout.

548
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: They to me, at least there's a lot more options

549
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: on the waiver wire than running back and at least

550
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: that you can trust. And so to me, I I

551
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: changed my approach to do the opposite because I felt

552
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: the same as you, Marcus, like thirteen maybe if that

553
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: running backs, So I want to have one, maybe two

554
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: if possible, of those guys, and then I'll just start

555
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: getting receivers because I think there's I was working on

556
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: my top twelve wide receivers yesterday, and from like twelve

557
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: to like twenty five, I think are all kind of

558
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: interchangeable and you can make a case for different players,

559
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: and that being the case, I'll wait and grant two

560
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: of those in like three and four and have two

561
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: running backs early on that I know I can trust.

562
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, I think that's the difference

563
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: between running back and wide receiver. There there are a

564
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: lot of players at both position, but I do think

565
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: there is more legitimate depth at wide receiver than there

566
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: isn't running back. Because as you talk about, you, I

567
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: felt like last year the fourth round was maybe the

568
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: hardest place to draft because there were so many good

569
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: wide receivers still available in that fourth round. And maybe

570
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: it was easier because there were so many You could

571
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: get a guy and feel like, all right, I got

572
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: a pretty good player here. UM, but there's just so

573
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: many choices, Like there was almost paralysis by analysis because

574
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 1: of that. Um. You you talked about the injuries at

575
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: the top, and that was definitely a big story all

576
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: year long. Look at somebody who had Christian McCaffrey in

577
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: a couple of leagues. I had Sae Kwon Barkley in

578
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: a dynasty startup this year. Um, you know you mentioned

579
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: Zeke just kind of underperforming with those injuries at the top.

580
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 1: Does that change how you approach your drafts or you

581
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: just say, look, hey, like there's just a thing that happened. Um,

582
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 1: you know, I still believe in in some of these

583
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: guys who got hurt, and I'm gonna I'm gonna make

584
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: a play for them anyway. Yeah, it hasn't hasn't changed

585
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: my approach at all, because it's unlucky. If you drafted

586
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: sae Quan and he tears his a c L a

587
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: torn a seal does not make someone injury prone. Uh.

588
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: And and for Christian McCaffrey, it was three different injuries.

589
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: And and someone tweeted me recently it was like, should

590
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: that worry you a little bit more than if it

591
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: was one significant one? And I was like, I don't

592
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: think so, because like a high ankle sprain and a

593
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: shoulder injury aren't really connected to me. I think it's

594
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: just more a little bit of bad luck for Christian

595
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: McCaffrey last year. Um, but like if you spent an

596
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: early round pick on Dalvin Cook or Derrick Henry or

597
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, your your tone is gonna be a lot

598
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: different about drafting early running backs. And if you went

599
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: the other way and took Michael Thomas, you're gonna feel

600
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: different about taking a wide receiver early on. So I

601
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: think at times injury stuff like that. Football is a

602
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: violent game and players are going to get hurt. It

603
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 1: is just a part of it. So but for me,

604
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: it hasn't changed my approach at all. Like I still

605
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: think Sae Kwon Barkley should be a top five pick

606
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: off the board, and I still think Christian McCaffrey should

607
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: be the number one overall pick. I think that's going

608
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: to be the case, And I'm with you, Um, you know,

609
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: I just think at least with those two guys in particular,

610
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: the upside is so great that it's just hard to

611
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: to pass on them at the top of your draft.

612
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: We know that a healthy Christian McCaffrey is gonna be

613
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: on the field for about of the snaps. Um, we

614
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: know he's probably gonna touch the ball three hundred plus

615
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: times and the same thing for sake Kwon Barkley. UM,

616
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, Wayne Gallman was a nice story during the year,

617
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: but when Kwan is there, he is the true workhorse.

618
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: He's the guy that's gonna be on the field that

619
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna feed the football too. And I think that

620
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: kind of volume, UM, with the potential production that comes

621
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: along with it, is just too hard to ignore at

622
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: the top of draft. So, UM, you know, I'm sure

623
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: there are some people out there who felt burned and

624
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 1: you know who maybe decide they don't want one of

625
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: those players next year. That's fine. Let I'm falling my lap.

626
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: I will gladly take the quote unquote risk to have

627
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey UM my roster again this year. UM, as

628
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: most the guys who didn't get injured, UM, that that

629
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: maybe just underperformed of this year. Do you have one

630
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: or two that you think can bounce back? Yes, UM,

631
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm pulling up real quick, ok Kenyan Drake. I think

632
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: for sure, because I think that last year and we

633
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: we put big expectations on him. And I want to

634
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: give credit to Rank because Rank said this first and

635
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I completely agree with what he just said.

636
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: There he He said that because we had put such

637
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: high expectations like Kenyan Drake being a top ten running back,

638
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: he finished top twenty. But to all of us that

639
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: was a big disappointment that next year people are gonna

640
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: overcorrect it and not want to draft Kenyan Drake because

641
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, I remember what he did last year,

642
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: and because of that, he might fall outside the top

643
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: twenty running backs. And if that becomes the case and

644
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: he does even what he did this year, we're gonna

645
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: look back on it and be like, oh, Kenyan Drake

646
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: was a value. So it's funny how so much of

647
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: it is just what we put the expectations on and

648
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: where we draft these players. And then I thought the

649
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,239
Speaker 1: other one. I don't know if this guy counts as

650
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: a bounce back um, but j K. Dobbins, I think

651
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people had high expectations this past year

652
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: and he didn't quite live up to it. But I

653
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: think he is a great chance to be this year's

654
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: version of David Montgomery. I do like they. I do

655
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: like j K. Dobbins. This year I would say one, uh,

656
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: the thing you know quoted rank on about Kenyan Drake

657
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: is also the thing I've sort of been saying about

658
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards de Laire for the last month or two,

659
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: and I think that he is going to be better

660
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: next year. Although I do have a question about that

661
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 1: that I will I will ask you in just a

662
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: little bit. But I do think he's gonna be better,

663
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: uh than he was this year, just just having more

664
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: snaps and stuff under his belt. Hopefully having a training

665
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: camp will help him a little bit. I'm also gonna

666
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: double down on Miles Sanders. Um. I I had big

667
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: expectations for Miles Sanders this year. The Eagles offensively were

668
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: kind of a mess, and he still has some things

669
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: to figure out. You know, we talked earlier in the

670
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: week about the quarterback situation and what's going to happen

671
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: between Carson Wins and Jalen Hurts. Um. They still have

672
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: some stuff to figure out. But I do think Miles

673
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: Sanders needs to be a guy for them that touches

674
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: the ball. You know, he needs to get around twenty

675
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: touches a game, which is something that he wasn't consistently getting. UM.

676
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: I think Nick Sirianni is going to try to make

677
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: that happen now that he's the head coach there. I

678
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: mean we sort of saw, you know, he and Frank

679
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: Reich and how they made that offense work in Indianapolis.

680
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: Look and look, part of the reason that you love

681
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor so much is that at some point they realized,

682
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: we've got a really good running back. We've got to

683
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: give him the ball. Uh. And I hope that that's

684
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: what they see in Miles Sanders. And I think he's

685
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna sort of bounce back him and Hurts

686
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: in the option would be so much fun to be

687
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: terrifying if I'm if I mosing defense right, Like, I

688
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: gotta worry about which one of these guys has the football.

689
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: Both of them can make plays. They can you know,

690
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: they can run effectively. So hopefully that's the thing that

691
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: we see. Um. But we did mention Clyde Edward de Laire,

692
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: and the hype was deafening for him by the time

693
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: we got to week one. He had that really nice

694
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: game in the first week and we're like, all right,

695
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: you know, let's get on the rocket. We're going to

696
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: the moon. Um. And you know, we just barely left

697
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: the atmosphere when it was all said and done. Uh.

698
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,479
Speaker 1: And again I think I think some of that was

699
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: our expectations for him might have been a little bit

700
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: too high, because I do believe that the Chiefs intended

701
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: for him to be in a platoon with Damien Williams,

702
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: who opted out because of COVID nineteen. Now, presumably Williams

703
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: is back next year, Um, you know, he will have

704
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: taken a year off to kind of I guess rest up,

705
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: heal his body a little bit. I don't imagine that

706
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are just going to immediately kick him to

707
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: the curb, even as much as they like Edwards Delaire.

708
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: So when we approach drafts next year, assuming Damian Williams

709
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: is back and getting touches, how do we handle this

710
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: in drafts in twenty one? I think, well, well, Marcus says,

711
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: you were breaking down Clyde Edwards Delayer's season and we

712
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: wanted to go to the moon. I was like, wow,

713
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: he really was the fantasy version of game stop stocks.

714
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: We came up short. It didn't reach the moon. But uh,

715
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: I think because of that, like in an early draft,

716
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: I'm seeing him go in like the third or fourth round,

717
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: which is already a multiple round discount from last year. Uh.

718
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: But Damian Williams. Like for those who would like to

719
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: do you know, like like us so like to do

720
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: really early drafts. He's going in like round fifteen sixteen

721
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: right now, it's like an afterthought. So he is a

722
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: great value because I think that those two are going

723
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: to split work. I would expect Clyde Edwards Hilaire to

724
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: be the lead back. They drafted him in the first

725
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: round when they expected Damian Williams to be there, and

726
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 1: then he took a year off, so I think he'll

727
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: have a role. But I think it'll be Clyde Edwards

728
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: Hilaire leading this this backfield and just with this Chief's offense.

729
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: I know it didn't work out this year, but when

730
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: you have Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelsey,

731
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: you have to dedicate so much defensive attention to stopping

732
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: the past that it's one thing the Bills said they

733
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: did they try to take away the passing game, and

734
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards la rushed for a hundred and sixty yards

735
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: against that, which is what I expected to happened more

736
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: often this year with the Chiefs. But I think that

737
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: the sky is still the limit for him. Everything that

738
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: we were so excited for him coming into this year.

739
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: I think still holds true going into his second year.

740
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: But you may get a draft discount and don't have

741
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: to pay for his absolute ceiling this year. Yeah, I don't.

742
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 1: I don't see him getting anywhere near the first round

743
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: this year. I just think people are gonna be you know,

744
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: they have a bad taste left in their mouth from

745
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 1: this past season. Also with the Damien Williams factors sort

746
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: of added in, he's not gonna get close to the

747
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: first round. But man if yeah, I know it's not

748
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: going to last all summer. But the idea of getting

749
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: Damian Williams in like the fifteenth round, Um, that's that's amazing.

750
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: That's tantalizing. Uh So, yeah, for for those of you

751
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: degenerates out there who are doing drafts right now, jump

752
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: on board, go get it. I suspect that when we

753
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: get closer to August, um, that number is gonna Yeah,

754
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: he's gonna move up. And I would say, what ninth

755
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: round maybe forget That's exactly where I was thinking. Yeah,

756
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: so you know, if you can get that discount, now,

757
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: go get it, because you know it's gonna be fun,

758
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: especially if this if it turns out to be anything

759
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: close to a kind of a split there in that backfield. Um,

760
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: that made me think though about some either oars for

761
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: next year, the two guys that maybe have similar draft

762
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: value in which ones you would take? Um? So this

763
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: is what I didn't have any I thought about this

764
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: as you were talking just now because I wanted to

765
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: do something with Jonathan Taylor where I wasn't completely sure

766
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: you would just take JT for certain. So this one

767
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: I just kind of came up with on the fly,

768
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: just for you. Jonathan Taylor or Derrick Henry? Where would

769
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: you go? Oh? So, Derrick Henry is one of five

770
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: running backs that I have ahead of Jonathan Taylor. It

771
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: is CMC, Dalvin Cook, Kimara Henry, and s qwan. I

772
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: would take Taylor over any other player in football. Okay, alright, alright,

773
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: I was I was curious. I know, I know, Look,

774
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: you have not been shy about how you love him.

775
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: I just was curious about work. So that that gives

776
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: me a good idea then, Um, alright, so here's the

777
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: ones I do have on the list of DeAndre Swift

778
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: or Cam Akers, which one would you rather have? A

779
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: week ago? I would have rather had DeAndre Swift. But

780
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: now with the quarterback swap, and I think this was

781
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 1: a great question, Marcus. I would rather have cam Akers

782
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: right now. Stafford through the running backs of his plays

783
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: last year, and that was on par with his career

784
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: norm whereas Jared Golf was at fourteen percent I believe,

785
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: and never reached twenty in his career. So I think

786
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: obviously we could expect a little bit more passes to

787
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: go cam Akers way. Stafford being the better downfield thrower,

788
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: I think opens up some near the line of scrimmage.

789
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: And I actually when that trade happened the other day,

790
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: I made this a poll on Twitter, picked cam Akers.

791
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: I think it is way closer than that. Um, I

792
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: think both of these guys are borderline rb ones. But

793
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: now I lean Acres over Swift. I would I would

794
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: go Acres over Swift as well. What I what I'm

795
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: really curious about is, UM, I think it's one thing

796
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: to kind of take the temper sure of of Twitter

797
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: right after the trade, right because we all get buzzy

798
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: about these sorts of things. UM, I would love to

799
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: see that same pole a few months from now, right

800
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: when sort of the high of the deal has worn

801
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: off and we're thinking about it. I suspect it might

802
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: get a little bit closer, uh sometime during the summer.

803
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just my my speculation. I remember

804
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: I want to do that and then post the two

805
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: and be like, wow, yeah, it's changed right exactly, Like

806
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: you know, if it goes from Acres you know to

807
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: like you know, in in late July and it becomes

808
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: like you know, Acres or something like that. Like, I'm

809
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: just curious to see how people feel about that a

810
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: little bit later. But I think between the quarterback swap

811
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: and just feeling more confident in their coach and play caller, Uh,

812
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: that for me gives gives Acres the edge. But you know,

813
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's all bad for DeAndre

814
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: Swift there in Detroit. Um Nick Chubb or Kareem Hunt,

815
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: who just they split time there in Cleveland, but both

816
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: that are productive, which is nice. Yeah, And last year

817
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: I was on the Kareem Hunt side until his ADP

818
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: kind of like because in like July and and even

819
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: early August, he was like a sixth round pick. Then

820
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: that became fifth and then like come late August he

821
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: was going in the fourth round and That's when I

822
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'd rather have Nick Chubb then if

823
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: they're only separated by two rounds. But in a vacuum,

824
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Nick Chubb. And I even think

825
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: if Cream hunts like a fifth or sixth round pick

826
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: next year, I will still go with Nick Chubb. He

827
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: showed that he can be a top ten running back

828
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: without getting a ton of catches. And the Browns clearly

829
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: have designed their offense to run through Chubb in the

830
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: run game, and Hunt will get his share of things,

831
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: but we've seen it. These two markets are kind of

832
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: game script dependent, where like when the Browns are winning,

833
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb can go off and then when the Browns

834
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: are trailing, they'll usually bringing Kareem Hunt there to catch

835
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: the passes. But I think Chubb is I have him

836
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: as a top ten running back this year, and I'm

837
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: comfortable now. I last year had some warriors, but this

838
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: year I'm more comfortable taking him as that. I was

839
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: worried about Nick Chubb, you know, I didn't think he

840
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: could this is a top ten running back because of

841
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. And look, in the end, Chubb did not

842
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: finish as a top ten running back, but I chucked

843
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: that more up to the game's missed because of injury

844
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: than because of anything that happened with Kareem Hunt. Uh

845
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: and so I having seen it over a year and

846
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: seeing what those guys can do in Kevin Stefanski's offense,

847
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm okay with having Chubb again as a top ten

848
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: running back. And I think I'm okay with him there

849
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: because he's we know he's gonna be on the field,

850
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna dominate the touches for the most part. Um,

851
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: what keeps Hunt afloat is being the past catcher and

852
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: getting those those PPR points for the receptions. But I

853
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: do love the fact that we can have two guys

854
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: on the same team, um, you know, in the same backfield,

855
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: and feel confident that both of them will give you

856
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: decent production week after week. Because that's that's just not

857
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: a thing we can say universally across the league. So

858
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: thanks Kevin Stefanski, we appreciate that. Um. The last one

859
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: was guys who either either have a good fantasy reputation

860
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: or finished well that I have questions about, So David

861
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 1: Montgomery or Josh Jacobs. These two I think belonged to

862
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 1: in my mind, belonged together. I think in many others

863
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: people would be like, oh, Josh Jacobs easily, because everyone

864
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: loves Josh Jacobs even though he hasn't produced a whole

865
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 1: lot at the NFL level. Not okay, he's produced, but

866
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: not as much as we had hoped for fantasy um,

867
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: I would go with Josh Jacobs there just because I'm

868
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: scared for the Bears. Man. Who knows what their offense

869
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: is gonna look like. They could lose Allan Robinson, uh

870
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 1: and who knows who the quarterback is gonna be. Plus

871
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: Trei Cohen is going to come back, and that is

872
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: really when David Montgomery started to ascend once Cohen was

873
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: hurt and they started to throw him the ball more.

874
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: When Cohen comes back, I do expect him to become

875
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: a big part of that passing game again, and that

876
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: is going to hurt David Montgomery's value. And then I

877
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: am starting to get a little bit excited though the

878
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: rumors coming out of Vegas that they're trying to make

879
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: a big move there in on Deshaun Watson. This Offseae Sason,

880
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,280
Speaker 1: so I think that could be a big value boost

881
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,439
Speaker 1: for Josh Jacobs. I just feel like he's a little

882
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: bit safer and has a little bit more upside than Monty.

883
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: He does. He definitely has more upside than Monty and

884
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: he is They're both the lead back in their respective offenses.

885
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: But there is much less competition in Vegas for Josh

886
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: Jacobs than there is in Chicago for David Montgomery. And

887
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: and yes, with the Bears, we're still trying to figure

888
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: out who the quarterback is going to be. I think

889
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: we're all sort of agreed that it's not going to

890
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: be Mitchell Trobinsky next year. But you know, the question

891
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: is who is going to be uh slinging the rock there?

892
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 1: And that is going to have an impact on that offense.

893
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: The Trek Cohen factor, I think is is important. And

894
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: this is a guy who a couple of years ago

895
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: I had a hundred targets in that offense. I don't

896
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: know if that's going to continue to be the norm,

897
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: but he is going to take some off of Montgomery's

898
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: plate um. That definitely was a boost for for Monty

899
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 1: in the back half of the season. That combined with

900
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: a schedule that was very friendly, helped um. So I

901
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: like Josh Jacobs, but I'm with you in that in

902
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: two years, he's just been underwhelming. I think we really

903
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: hoped for more and expected more and it hasn't happened yet. UM.

904
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: Some of it for me as to do with the

905
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: fact that the Raiders just refused to throw him the football.

906
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I don't get it. I hope

907
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: that changes, um, but they just don't throw him the ball.

908
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: If they do, then I can feel a lot more

909
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: confident about him for for next year. We'll always have

910
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: Week one. Week one. It made us. It made us

911
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: feel like that, you know, the tables were turning, but

912
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: they didn't turn all that much by the time the

913
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: season was over. I don't know. Um, alright, So, uh,

914
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: you might have heard there's a football game on Sunday,

915
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: Uh Super Bowl from Tampa Chiefs and Bucks. The first

916
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: time ever that a team has hosted a Super Bowl

917
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: in its own stadium. Uh. You know, I still pour

918
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: a little bit out for forty playing when at Stanford Stadium. Um,

919
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: which was that? I think that one of the closest

920
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: I know the Rams played in a super Bowl in

921
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl at some point I think in the

922
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: late seventies. Um. But you know, the Bucks actually get

923
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: one in their stadium. So anyway, uh, let's do some

924
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: dfs for the people who were still playing. We went

925
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: the showdown captain mode for this one. Or you get

926
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, you have a captain who gets one and

927
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: a half times the points and then you can fill

928
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: in the rest. You can do kickers, you can do defenses. Whatever,

929
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: um where did you go? How did you put together

930
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: your lineup for this one? My captain no surprises Patrick Mahomes.

931
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: It costs eighteen thousand to get him in, but I

932
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: think he's well worth it. Uh. He torched the Bucks

933
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: defense when they played earlier this year, and this is

934
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: a defense that relies on getting pressure on the quarterback.

935
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes, oddly enough thrives when teams get pressure

936
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: on him. And he's one of the best quarterbacks in

937
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: football against the Blitz, so I think he's gonna have

938
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: a really big game. And he says his toe is

939
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: close to which if he could start running again, good

940
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: luck Bucks, And then I around Patrick Mahomes. I gave

941
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: him his top weapons. I paid for Travis Kelsey at

942
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: eleven hundred. I paid up for Tyree Kill at ten thousand,

943
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: four hundred because I think if Mahomes has a big day.

944
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: Those two guys are going to as well, and we've

945
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: seen it. The Bucks secondary has played better this year

946
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: than in the last two years, but there's still that

947
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: that is still the way you can attack this defense. Uh,

948
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: they're much better against the run. But I still did

949
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: get in Darryl Williams at fifty two hundred because oddly enough,

950
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: he was used more than c h against the Bills.

951
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: He's been the lead back for this team really all playoffs,

952
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: ever since Clyde Edwards Laire went down with that injury.

953
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: In the regular season, he had the goal line touch

954
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: for them, he scored a touchdown, He even had a

955
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: target in that game, while h only had two. And

956
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: then you know, because I I paid up for all

957
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: those players, had to go cheap the rest of the way.

958
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: That's where I get my bucks in Rob Gronkowski at

959
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: three thousand. I know Gronk isn't the old Gronk, but

960
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: he has a lot of Super Bowl success with Tom Brady.

961
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: They they've connected for a number of touchdowns and he

962
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: has been getting a lot of in the playoffs, a

963
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: lot of the red zone work. So I'm hoping that

964
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: he could just catch a touchdown at three thousand, and

965
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: then your boy Marks surrounded out Ronald Jones at twenty

966
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: two thousand. He is so cheap, I mean two thousand two. Yeah,

967
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: he is so cheap. And he's had two weeks now

968
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: to get healthy. I know he wasn't fully healthy for

969
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: their playoff run, but he has been utilized in the

970
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: run game the last two weeks, and I think being

971
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: their explosive runner, They're gonna try to get Ronald Jones

972
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: involved early on this game. So you and I have

973
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: the same At the top, I went my homes as

974
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: the captain, No, no surprise there. I went Kelsey because

975
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to get at least one of his guys

976
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 1: uh in there for him. I went for Mike Evans

977
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: on the other side because he has been Tom Brady's

978
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: kind of number one option in that passing game, so

979
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: I was able to get Evans in there. I went

980
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards Hilaire, and everything you said about Damian Williams

981
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: or Darrell Williams is absolutely true. Um, But I went

982
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: Clyde Hilaire because something you know, Look Andy Reid when

983
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: he's had a week off to prepare, uh, he always

984
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: has some wrinkles, and and it's one thing for for

985
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: Darryl Williams to kind of be the lead back and

986
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians to kind of study that, and then that's

987
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: when you come back with c E h and you

988
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: let him do his thing and have a big game.

989
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: So I've paid for him at seven thousand, So then

990
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: the rest of the way I had to get uh,

991
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit creative. So I did go

992
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller, who just always seems to show up and

993
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: have one or two big plays in there. Um, I mean,

994
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: look asked the asked the Packers, who somehow let Scotty

995
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: Miller get down field right before halftime and catch a

996
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: big touchdown in the NFC championship games. So I got

997
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: him in there, and I did finish up with Ronald

998
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: Jones at twenty. I It's funny I saw him at

999
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: twenty two hundred and I started like Google doing, like

1000
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: am I missing something? Is is he hurt? You know?

1001
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: I went and dug up the injury reports, and I'm

1002
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,959
Speaker 1: like looking for news articles like there's gotta be something

1003
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm missing, Like why is there because Letard Fournette, I think,

1004
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: is like something like that. Um, I'm like, why is

1005
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: there such a huge gap between four net and Joe

1006
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: with am I missing something? Uh? And when I couldn't

1007
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: find anything, I'm like, all right, here we go way

1008
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: two hundred for ro Joe. I'm absolutely doing that. So,

1009
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's what I got now, Steve, you you

1010
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: you said you have a lineup to right, I'm curious

1011
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: how you went with your your line up here. I

1012
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: mean I put it pretty similar line up as you

1013
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: folks did. I started with Mahomes, Kelsey and Tyreek Hill.

1014
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: I don't really believe in the Chief's ability to run

1015
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: the ball against Tampa Bay, so I stayed away from

1016
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: their running backs. But I did get n Cole Hardman

1017
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: in there, and it's just a sure uh salary play

1018
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: we got. We just kind of fire and Pringle into

1019
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: the lineup just because he was cheap, and I liked, um,

1020
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: what what you did with the Bucks players. I thought

1021
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: Gronk was fun, Like, he was too cheap not to

1022
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: play Rob Gronkowski in the Super Bowl, so I got

1023
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: him in there. But I don't see any way the

1024
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs aren't just running away with this one. So I

1025
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: had a heavy Chief stack here. Alright, So since you

1026
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: said that, I mean, I mean, I want to finish

1027
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 1: out the show with our super Bowl prediction. So Steve,

1028
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: you you have the Chiefs kind of running away with it.

1029
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: You have a score in mind. I did not prep

1030
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: a score, but let's just come up with one off

1031
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: the top of my head. So let's say Chiefs will

1032
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: get thirty four. I will give the Bucks ten. Alright, alright, uh,

1033
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: Florio your your score and winner. I think it is

1034
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: going to be a very close game, actually the opposite

1035
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 1: direction of Steve, because Tom Brady throughout his whole career,

1036
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: like when is he played in a non closed Super

1037
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: Bowl or really even non close playoff game. And then

1038
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, besides the Bills game, they've been in a

1039
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: bunch of close ones. Haven't really been blowing teams out.

1040
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: So I think it's going to be an offensive game.

1041
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be really good. I have it

1042
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: something like Chiefs twenty eight, Bucks twenty four in that range.

1043
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm going to make it a sweep

1044
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: here for the Chiefs. Uh, and I'm gonna kind of

1045
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: come in between you guys where I don't think. I

1046
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: think it'll be close for most of it. And then

1047
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs sort of pull away at the end. So

1048
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: I will say Chiefs win this one, but it should

1049
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: be an entertaining game. I think we just locked the

1050
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: bucks up there. I know exactly now, you know, So

1051
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: congratulations Tom Brady on your seventh championship because none of

1052
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,879
Speaker 1: us picked you this one. Flex the other day when

1053
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, I'm by myself from media day,

1054
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: a lot different than my other nine experiences, I did

1055
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: not hear that. I mean, look, he's he's earned it,

1056
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: but exact reaction, oh man, So all right, Well, hopefully

1057
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: it is a fun day. It's not obviously, it's gonna

1058
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: be different for everybody. You know, there won't be big

1059
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: super Bowl parties. Will all sort of be in our

1060
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: homes watching it. Um, I don't know. Maybe we can

1061
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: all do a zoom or something like that. And uh,

1062
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: the one thing I would saying that was because there

1063
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: won't be Super Bowl parties. Twitter might be lit for

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl this year. So I always say Twitter

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Speaker 1: is at its best when everybody is kind of watching

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Speaker 1: the same thing. So Twitter very well maybe lit for

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl on Sunday, So looking forward to that. Again.

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Speaker 1: We are off all next week, so we will see

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Speaker 1: you in a little more than a week. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: for us, that is it. We are done. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you hanging out with the NFL Fantasy Football show. You

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Speaker 1: know the drill. Tell two friends to tell two friends,

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Speaker 1: rate review and remember, if four out of five people

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Speaker 1: suffer from diarrhea, does that mean that one person enjoys it.

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Speaker 1: Be safe, take care of yourselves, wear a mask, enjoy

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl, and we'll see you in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. Wow, Wow, Wong Wong. I'm Coco. I'm co Co.