WEBVTT - Pats from the Past, Episode 36: Logan Mankins 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:09.480 It's time now for another episode of Pats from the 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:13.240 Past podcast. Matsmith alongside Paul Babrillo pleased to be joined 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:15.480 by number seventy on your scorecard, but number one in 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:19.040 our hearts at least today, Paul, right next, Yeah, and 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:19.880 you better be careful. 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:20.240 Yeah. 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.240 And that's Logan Mankins. Logan, thanks for coming in. How 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:23.279 you doing, man, I'm doing great. 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:24.000 Thanks for having me us. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.200 Yeah, I really appreciate it, all right, Logan when we 0:00:26.239 --> 0:00:28.680 start these with everybody, because I don't you mean, like 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.440 maybe people know what some ex patriots are doing, but 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:35.959 I think there's a lot of people that go, Logan, Mac, 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:37.839 it's where is he these days? What are you up to? 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:39.239 I think fans would love to know that. 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.040 Well, I'm still here in New England. We live in 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.000 North attle Borough, still just down the road from Foxborough, 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:49.040 and we have a little farm and we raised beef, cattle, hay, firewood, 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:50.320 all that kind of fun stuff. 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:55.080 Why is a California Northern California kid? What is it 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:58.120 about New England? Because I think, and I'm being very 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:02.640 stereotypically stereotypical, I think people would be surprised. Patriot fans 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.520 will go Okay, his career is over, finish it in Tampa. 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.600 He's going to go back to northern California at some 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.440 point in time. Why still New England? I mean, and 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.120 this is somebody who loves New England, has lived here 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:12.839 his entire life. 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:15.600 Yeah. Well, we had lived here for nine years before 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:19.400 I got traded, and then the timing of the trade 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.399 was school was about to start, so my wife and 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.520 kids stayed here and I went there just for the 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:28.240 season at Tampa, and then we did that. Then I 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.280 came back after the season and my daughter was in 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.039 high school, so we didn't want to make her move 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.080 while she was in high school, so I went to 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:39.840 Tampa for the season again and they stayed here. And 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:44.760 then by the time I retired, we just made the 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:47.440 decision that our oldest is in high school, let's let 0:01:47.440 --> 0:01:50.600 her finish high school. And then she was graduating in 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:52.559 high school, our next one was coming into high school. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:54.520 So we just made the decision to stay here and 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:55.800 make this our forever place. 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:56.640 So that's great. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:58.240 Yeah, because I was one of those that I would 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.640 have said, you know, Logan Mankins, be back on the 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:02.680 ranch out and it was a Kathy's Valley. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.720 Yeah, Kathy's valley. 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.320 I figured you'd be long gone and hot to find, 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.919 and then I show up at Bishop Fian. Matt, Yeah, 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.760 you know, so one of those classic Bishop Fenwick, Bishop 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.480 fee In tilts right in the Catholic Central League Mankins. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.200 So Logan Paul's office is now next to mine, and 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.680 I'm regaled weekly with you know how great Fenwick is. 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.280 Fenwick kicked his team's ass, blah blah blah. And he 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:29.639 tells me, he goes, oh, you wouldn't believe this. I 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:33.000 read into Logan Mankins other than Bruski, who he knows 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.440 obnoxious on the sidelines, is all the most obnoxious parrot 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.560 of a kid that you've run into a high school game. 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:39.679 And he's got to be right. 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.800 Well, I don't know. I don't get to see him 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:46.520 during the game, but he's always very gracious in defeats. 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:49.960 So well, see he's he's being kind. I usually bitch 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.680 about the referees for about a half hour. But it 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:54.880 was funny. This is this is a kind of a 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:59.399 funny story. So last year when Logan sun Case Mankins 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.919 is a trumendous two way player for Bishop Fiann and 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.600 my oldest son Will, they're the same same age, not 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.000 as tremendous a two way player for Fenwick, but he 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:12.040 does well. So we're at Fenwick two years ago and 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:14.480 it was one of those games where I was, you know, 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.320 held bent for a leather, like if I could have 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.240 found an official in the parking lot, things could have 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.840 been bad. And I see Logan at the I go, 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.040 did you see that whole day? Missing that touchdown? 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.560 And Logan goes and then holding if they don't. 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.960 Call it so, but he was spoken like a true 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.000 offensive line right. 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.720 But what was great was my friends are constantly, as 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.760 you probably get a lot of this, they're constantly busting 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.320 my balls. Oh, oh, big tough Paul like, oh, he 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.920 talks to Tom Brady, he talks to Toty Brusky. 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.480 Oh why don't you where's all you boys? Where's makings? 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:45.880 Where's all you? 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:46.160 Bud? 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.240 So don't you know Logan comes over at the end 0:03:48.280 --> 0:03:50.360 of the game. You talk about being gracious in defeat, 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.920 gracious in victory. He comes over after the game, says 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:56.760 goodbye to my wife and I and I get the 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.400 bro hug. I got a little bro hug. And there 0:03:58.400 --> 0:03:59.640 what you like to make fun of me about? For 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:03.920 people fraud. So all my friends now looking like, wow, 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:05.480 you really do know those guys that go what do 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:07.200 you think I worked there for twenty years. I never 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:11.000 met anybody, so it was it's been kind of nice. 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.000 Case played some basketball last last winter, so I bumped 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.240 into Logan a few times, and he was here in 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.760 Foxboro at the draft party too, So he's been around. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:22.880 And Logan and I'm I can verify Paul, because Paul 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:24.960 was saying this to me when he came back. He goes, 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.880 You're not gonna believe it, And I'm not surprised, he goes, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.080 I think Patriots fans would not be surprised as well. 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:34.839 Regular guy, nice guy parent who isn't screaming and yelling 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.440 and swearing at the referees like most of the other 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.080 parents are fie and hoodie. 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.000 Right with his hat probably just like that was it 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:42.760 Draper Farms. 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.840 Yeah, you know, a heart, you would not have any 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:50.279 idea that this is a you know, decade long NFL player, 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:53.560 well ten plus years NFL player, with the amount of 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.279 Pro Bowls and All pros, and you would have no 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.719 idea just sitting in the stands watching his kids just 0:04:58.760 --> 0:04:59.760 like everybody else, right. 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.960 And I hope this doesn't come across in a way. 0:05:02.000 --> 0:05:04.320 It's sort as I'm saying, think about in my mind 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:06.400 that somebody could take it as an insult, and I 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.880 hope it would never be that way. But Logan as 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:13.240 the second greatest guard in franchise history, You are you 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:14.880 okay being behind John Hannah? 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:15.679 Yeah, that's fine. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.080 Who by the way I spent. 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:21.400 But they wouldn't change my life, and I get it, 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:22.320 I'd still be the same. 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.479 But I don't know if you ever had a chance 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.000 to really, you know, watch Hannah or anything like that. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:27.760 During little days. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:29.880 And I spent some time with John a couple of 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:34.120 summers ago down on his cattle farm down in Alabama. Crusty, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:37.120 great patriot and great guy. I think you guys would connect. 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:39.560 Yeah, I've got him a few times. Yeah, we uh 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.680 would swap stories and it was it was great meeting 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.400 them and hearing all the great things he had to 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:44.920 talk about. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.760 And he just started yelling at you about not running 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:48.719 the ball enough. 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.680 Well, he said he liked running the ball because he 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:55.360 didn't like the pass block, and that pass blocking is 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:58.200 pretty tough, so especially against the talent they have nowadays. 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:02.159 He loved watching you play. He loved watching you play. 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.880 And I would say, as an outsider, for somebody to 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.680 get a stamp of approval from somebody like John Hannah, 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.200 that means a lot more than Paul Pirillo or Matt 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.160 Smith or any other Tom Dick and Harry because here's 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.599 a legit guy. Well, he loved watching you play. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.520 Yeah, and John, he was respected by everyone, his teammates, 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.400 his opponents, other coaches. So that's always what I wanted 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.640 to If they wrote I was good in the paper, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:27.720 that was great. But I wanted my teammates. I wanted 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.240 to earn their respect, and I wanted opponents not to 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:31.919 want to play me. So that's how it was. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:36.200 Did you think when you were coming out, did you 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:37.560 think you were going to be a first round pick? 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:41.960 I didn't know. I everyone told me probably the second rounder. 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:44.560 And it was funny. The day of the draft, I was. 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:47.919 We had me and my wife had a little apartment 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.479 in Fresno and we had a little draft party and 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.000 just people kept showing up more and more. Like my dad, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.479 he's a he likes to have a good time, so 0:06:57.560 --> 0:06:59.840 he was inviting everyone he saw, whether he knew there 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:01.400 were not, So that was always great. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:02.560 Does it make him a bad guy. 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:07.520 No. But we're sitting there and my offensive coordinator from 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:11.320 Fresno was one of his best friends was with the 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:13.800 forty nine ers and he calls me. He goes that 0:07:13.920 --> 0:07:15.600 I just talked to my best friend. They're taking you 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.840 with the thirty third pick. I was like, oh sweet, 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.600 right down the road from here. And then I was like, 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.800 hold on, someone else is calling me and I click 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:26.440 the phone over and it was Scott Pioli. He's like, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.840 we're taking you right now. I was like, oh, okay, 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.080 So it was great. I was. I think I was 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.560 very fortunate to come here. I'm it worked out the 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.280 best to come here. I'm glad that the nine Ers 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.200 weren't picking thirty two and the Patriots were. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.960 So you obviously it did work out. You were part 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.040 of a lot of wins here and you had a 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.680 great career. Did you think it at the time, You know, like, 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:52.800 you were so close to being close to home and 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:54.520 now you have to go to New England, which I 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.200 can't tell you how many players will tell you. I 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.160 didn't really even know where New England was because they 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:01.160 think it's a state, not a region. And what were 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.360 you thinking about the culture, you know, the both the 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:05.720 culture with the team and the culture shock of going 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:06.960 from West coast to East coast. 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:12.320 Yeah, I wasn't, like you said, totally aware of they 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:13.920 said in New England. I was like, Okay, that's on 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:16.080 the East Coast, but I didn't know it was like 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.040 right outside of Boston. I didn't know where the stadium 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.040 was or Foxborough or any of that stuff. And guys 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:22.880 are like, oh, You're gonna go play with Tom Brady 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.240 and I'm like, I'm not even sure who Tom Brady 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.960 really is. Right, I didn't watch that much in NFL football. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:32.400 I didn't Up until my senior year of high school. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.240 I loved watching NFL football, and then once I got 0:08:35.280 --> 0:08:37.400 to college, I kind of stopped paying attention and had 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:38.880 many other things going on. 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.520 So is that because you Is it because it was 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.240 so much for you to play? It took so much physically, 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.520 mentally and everything like that that when the time came 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.760 that you had quote your own time or downtime or 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.280 however you want to call it. I got other things 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.240 I need, I want to do that interest me rather 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.200 than sit and watch this. Because I'm living and know 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.160 in a division in school, you're working. It's a job. 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:06.760 Yeah, and uh, and the schedule kind of makes it 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.160 that way. So in college, you play on Saturday. Sunday, 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.280 you go in for lifting, you watch the game, and 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:16.079 you have your conditioning, so that's most of your Sunday 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:19.120 while NFL football is on, so you could watch games 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.040 on Monday night and Sunday night, but other than that, 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.199 during the day, you were usually busy, so we didn't 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.160 watch a lot of it. And as I got older 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.320 in college, I already had my first daughter and everything 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.440 like that. So the longer I was in college, the 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.760 more responsible I had to start becoming, and we had 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:40.559 a lot of other things to do to support her 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:41.880 and my future wife. 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.679 So so when you were drafted, it was you know, 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.800 tackle out of first No State, and then you got 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.280 here and almost immediately it was guard. Yeah, did you 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:54.640 know that that you would be a guard or is 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:56.680 that something that Bill had talked to you about beforehand? 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.560 I assumed it was going to happen. So my coach 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.680 at Fresno was Pat Hill, and I got invited to 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.880 the East West and the Senior Bowl and he goes 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.440 He was an O line coach for for Eveland or 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.160 Baltimore one of those Bill, and he goes, I think 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:15.760 the best thing for you to do is go to 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.640 these two all star games, go to both of them, 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:19.679 and just play guard at both of them. Tell them 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.000 you don't want to play tackle. I was like, all right, 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.160 So I took his advice, and when I got there, 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:27.600 I said, I'm playing guard, not tackle. And then because 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:29.040 he said I was going to get moved to guard, 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.120 that's what his opinion was. So when I got here, 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.240 I just assumed I was going to Garden. That's where 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:34.920 they told me to go. 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:36.760 So then it was day one. 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:42.480 Yeah, yeah, it was uh yeah, the first day always Guarden. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.000 What I did play tackle a couple of games. 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.240 We're going to get. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:47.880 About that athletic. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.559 I mean, the transition, the transition from college chapro is 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:55.160 obviously a big transition transition position wise. Did you think 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:56.760 that that was a big deal guard to tackle. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.160 I didn't think it was until I did it. Okay, 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.520 it's uh so a guard, everything is way faster, Like 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.400 everyone is lined up closer to you. Everything happens faster. 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.240 The guys aren't as fast as you're going against that tackle, 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.720 but you have more time before they get to you 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:16.720 to set everything up and the guys inside are way bigger, 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:20.240 way stronger. I thought guard was a lot more physical. 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.680 The few games I played at tackle, I felt awesome 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:28.280 after the game, whereas guard, you feel it's like, guys 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.720 right here, it he's too eighty to three point fifty 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:32.480 every time, just bam, bam bam. 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.360 So I think and Paul helped me on this, if 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:37.440 you agree with me or not. I think fans look 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.840 at offensive line and maybe other than center, where there's 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.800 an alleged you know, the center quarterback exchange that needs 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.200 to happen, and it's got to be consistent. But I 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.520 think fans will get offensive linemen and maybe other than 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.120 left tackle. I think they think they're all the same. Yeah, 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.720 and when you see there's current players on this team 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:58.719 and around the league, Hey, you know, we recognize you've 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.000 got position versatility. Oh, we like the fact that you 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.640 can play guard and play tackle. And I think fians 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:08.240 think that it's just interchangeable and can get on a guy. Geezh, 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.640 why is he You know, it's not as interchangeable as 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:13.840 maybe us dummy fians like to think. Is that a 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:14.520 fair statement? 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.400 Oh? Definitely. It takes uh for a guy to be 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:22.080 able to do multiple positions well, between guard and tackle 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.280 and not so much center and guard. But for a 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.679 person to be able to do guard en tackle, they 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:31.480 got to understand the game very well and have a 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.679 lot of athletic ability, which they already do. But I mean, 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:37.720 like position, I don't know how to really pronounce it 0:12:37.800 --> 0:12:40.280 or say it, but they've got to be able to 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.600 flip all that in their mind all the time. You've 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.880 got to be smart. Definitely got to be smart to 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:46.880 be able to do both of them, because it's different 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:49.720 ways and techniques to do both those spots. 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:51.480 Now, did you have to move sides? 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:57.640 No, thankfully side, which was nice because I was always 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.640 right handed, and then once I got the I always 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.000 played on the left side. And once you get stuck, well, 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.400 for me personally, once I got in that left handed stance, 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.280 that was the only one I was ever gonna be 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.040 able to do again, I get in a right hand 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:11.200 stance and I feel funky. 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.160 When you got here, Logan, you know, rookie first rounder. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.400 So you come with that kind of baggage, you know, 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.840 I mean, oh, here's a guy I gotta guarantee blah 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.800 blah blah. Who is there somebody that you can think 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.600 of that helped you the most to help make that 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:29.680 transition to NFL offensive lineman from college. How do you 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.640 recall that rookie year and who helped you along? And 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:36.119 because I think what people say now they consider they 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.280 they don't remember it, but they should remember it. We're 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.640 talking about a plug and play guy started just like that. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.040 And then again another thing, I think, Oh, anybody can 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:47.280 do it, No, nobody, not everybody can do it. You 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:48.960 have to be a Logan Magans kind of person to 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:49.600 do it well. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.319 There was a lot of bumps in the road. It 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:54.280 wasn't always beautiful. I remember getting yelled at plenty of 0:13:54.320 --> 0:13:58.199 times and nothing Scar Scar Bill whoever you didn't think 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.439 of in there, but let Tom get hit plenty of times. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.200 But you learned as you go, and by the halfway 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.760 part point of the season, I felt pretty comfortable and 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:10.280 what I was doing and it wasn't as bad as 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:14.280 those first few games. But there was lots of guys 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.840 that helped. First of all, I had an awesome O 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:21.680 line coach that was I'm so lucky and fortunate to 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.400 play for him. I wouldn't have wanted to play for 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:26.080 anyone else. So I had that going for me. I 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:27.960 had a lot of older guys in our room that 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.480 they were here to win, like Matt, like Cop and Neil, 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.520 those guys, that's all they wanted to do was win. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.960 And they just because you were a rookie didn't mean anything. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.920 They would help you. You were their teammate. So that 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.560 was awesome. There was like we didn't have rookie Hazy 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.280 and the craft like that. We were all there for 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.960 one purpose. Matt was awesome. I remember we got here 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:56.120 and was that rookie camp for OTAs or something, and 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.360 he invited my wife and our children over to meet 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:05.520 his wife and children, just to make the whole transition easier. 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.040 So having guys like that in your locker room makes 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.880 life a lot easier when you're already dealing with stuff 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.120 you have no idea. You're learning every day as you 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.640 go as a rookie, so having older guys that are 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.440 willing to help you is great. 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:19.840 So I found it interesting when you said, you know, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.480 you got drafted by the Patriots, and oh, you're going 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.200 to go and block for Tom Brady and you're like, 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.840 I'm not really even sure who Tom Brady is. How 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.560 long did it take you to sort of realize that 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.720 he was a little different than just the other teams 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.200 starting quarterbacks. And what was it like sort of getting 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:36.320 indoctrinated into that. 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.600 Well, it was great Tom. He's a special player, as 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.760 everyone already knows, but he's also a special leader and 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:46.000 a special guy. He was a great teammate to have. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.080 You wanted a block for the guy. The coaches wanted 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.560 you to make every block for him, and just that 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.040 makes it so much better when you really respect and 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.640 you like the guy, and you know he cares about 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.040 you and you care about him. And that's why we 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.560 wanted to make the blocks for him. We didn't do 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.640 it just because it was our job. We actually liked 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.640 and respected him and wanted him to do good. So, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.800 but there was lots of guys on this team I 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.400 didn't know anything about. I remember my rookie year, Richard 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.400 Seymour was here and he was holding out and I 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.840 was like, who's this guy everyone's talking about. I found 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.680 out the first day he came back. He was a handful. 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.640 So I got a lot of welcome to New England moments. 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.200 Was what was that like lining up against Richard Seymour 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:30.040 when he comes back. 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.800 Oh it was. I still didn't know who he was 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:35.920 but I or what he did, but I was like, damn, 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.160 this guy is big. What the heck? And then of 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.960 course where he lines up every day for practices right 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.080 over me, and the first one I want he ran 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.240 me over. I was like, holy shit, I better better 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.640 figure out how to block guys like this. And then 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:50.160 we went to the first game and I was like, 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:55.480 oh man, everyone's not like I was like, thankfully not 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.200 everyone's like this guy does it? 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.880 Did it not surprise you? Logan? I mean it took 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:02.840 him probably a little longer than I think, maybe he 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:04.920 wanted or some of the people a little closest to him. 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:06.600 But is it no surprise? Do you have to get 0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.119 knocked on your asp by Richard Seymore that he's in 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:10.480 the Professional Football Hall of Fame? 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.280 Oh yeah, he should have been there. There was no 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:18.760 question he was special talent. Not everyone has got his 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.520 a bilit He's so tall and long, and he's strong 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.879 and athletic, and he had the right mentality and he 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.240 was just a very good player. He was smart too, 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.080 So maybe playing here is first. I don't know. However, 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.359 many years when he was asked to take on double 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:37.679 teams and not get the sack numbers. That probably slowed 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.240 him down, But as far as impacting the game, he 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:44.080 made a big impact. And I know he helped me too, 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.920 because I practiced against him every day for like four 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.800 or five six years something like that, and we had 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.920 lots of fights and all kinds of stuff, But when 0:17:52.920 --> 0:17:55.320 we got to the locker room, we always talked about 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.240 how to. I would ask him what he looked at sometimes, 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.520 and he would ask me, like, how do you get 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:03.520 the hands off? And this kind of thing and that 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:07.240 thing just from guys that a different point of view 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.040 than a coach's point of view, like the guy that's 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.800 actually doing it. So I always had a lot of 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:12.520 respect for him. 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.760 You talked about being, you know, selfless and you know, 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.640 like Richard was, but you obviously displayed that you talked about. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.240 Don't forget that you played tackle a little bit, Matt Scott. 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.520