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Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, Welcome back to Golden Hour. We're here for

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Speaker 1: part two with Bailey and Jeremy. So let's dive right

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Speaker 1: back in. The funniest thing about you, Bailey, was you

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Speaker 1: tell the day we first were talking, you were telling

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Speaker 1: me about the clothes in the basement with labeled you've

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Speaker 1: forgotten labeled, what she wore online, what she'd said online,

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Speaker 1: what she wore in a commercial, all of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do have it in certain boxes. Oh, I know,

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Speaker 2: I know, this is like you know. And then I

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Speaker 2: also like, I'm a memories hoarder, so I just like

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Speaker 2: love to keep my memory. So I'm just like, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to throw I'm like, I wore the formal

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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. I need to keep this, like this

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Speaker 2: is mine.

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Speaker 1: I love Jeremy, I love you. Look at it.

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Speaker 3: Fat. Living in Manhattan, you don't have room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that you know.

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Speaker 2: And well, here's the thing. Jeremy has a loft. So actually, what.

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Speaker 1: Does that mean? What does that mean? What's a loft?

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Speaker 2: It's like there's a lot of space and and really

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Speaker 2: he hasn't used it, and so I use it. And

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Speaker 2: I have boxes up there now of clothes and I

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Speaker 2: have clothes in the in the closet.

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Speaker 1: But Jeremy, are you a shopper? I like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you always look nice on Paradise. That's why I'm asking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like clothes that I want to wear, but

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Speaker 4: not really like I I'd rather have a smaller closet

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Speaker 4: of stuff that I could just wear and then when

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Speaker 4: I get sick of it, I don't wear it anymore.

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Speaker 1: What do you get rid of it? And by.

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Speaker 2: He does pack very like I can't.

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Speaker 3: I wish I.

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Speaker 4: Could learn that, especially like if I'm traveling to like

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Speaker 4: a warmer place, or when I go hiking or something

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Speaker 4: like I had a duffel bag that lasted me an

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Speaker 4: entire month in Peru.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what do you do laundry? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you do laundry like you could find like walk

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Speaker 4: into like a cheap launder Matt and they get it.

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Speaker 1: To within a few.

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Speaker 2: An idea. When we went to Vegas for three days,

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Speaker 2: I brought almost three suitcases, so I bring two or

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Speaker 2: three really heavy, a really heavy big one. It was

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Speaker 2: I had to put some of my stuff into his

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Speaker 3: It was And then I ended up buying a new

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Speaker 3: suitcase where I'm at because I bought.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm shopping, so you know, everyone else there, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel you, I feel you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I.

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Speaker 3: Live alone in a four bedroom house and every single

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Speaker 3: closet is full.

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Speaker 2: And the yeah, that's that's my dream. I mean not,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know that's my dream. Every closet is

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Speaker 2: so then you know it's not the closet. I'll move

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Speaker 2: it somewhere.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, I know this is putting the

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Speaker 1: cart before the horse, But I want to be around

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Speaker 1: when you get pregnant. How many maternity outfits give you?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's going to be well. We actually

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Speaker 2: had this small conversation. I just explained to him, like

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Speaker 2: how dramatic I am when I don't feel good. It's

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Speaker 2: going to be a thousand times worse like it's going

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Speaker 2: to be. I think those nine months will be probably

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Speaker 2: the worst nine months of everybody's life around me, probably

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Speaker 2: probably my favorite nine months of my life probably.

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Speaker 1: But wait, I don't understand. You don't think you're going

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Speaker 1: to feel well?

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Speaker 2: Oh I think I know. I hate being uncomfortable. I

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Speaker 2: think I'm going to be very dramatic and very much.

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Speaker 3: She's warning you now, man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and very like just just like.

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Speaker 3: But I that I can't very.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I'm obviously going to still do things

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Speaker 2: for myself, but it will probably be a pretty like

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Speaker 2: rough nine months for every.

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Speaker 3: So it's a beautiful It was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: I love children. I'm literally like auntie. I literally love

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Speaker 2: being an auntie. It's my favorite thing.

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Speaker 3: But I know I being pregnant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, we're a long time really, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: that's a long way way.

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Speaker 1: Wait, can't I asked you a question? You're Bailey? What

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Speaker 1: are you twenty six? I've forgotten I'm twenty eight. And

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Speaker 1: how old are you? Jeremy thirty one? Yeah? Perfect, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got plenty of time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got time. Not in a Russian. I really

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Speaker 2: enjoy being an auntie. I feel like that's what my

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Speaker 2: calling is at this moment. It's not to be a mom,

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Speaker 2: but definitely later obviously, but not right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean right now, you've got to learn how to cook.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are my kids gonna eat?

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Speaker 1: We actually we thought it.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any interest in cooking at all?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think not for myself.

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Speaker 1: I love for Bailey. We have these conversations. I'm right

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Speaker 1: there with you, Bailey, I'm gonna tell you I have

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Speaker 1: company coming my neighbors that I haven't seen, not neighbors,

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Speaker 1: old neighbors are coming for earn a few nights, and

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Speaker 1: I swear to God, so as you're gonna laugh, I

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Speaker 1: woke up at four o'clock this morn going, holy shit,

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Speaker 1: they're coming for dinner in three days, and I don't

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Speaker 1: know what I've got to get at the grocery store.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna cook.

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Speaker 2: I would just at that point.

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Speaker 4: I like cooking because I like knowing what's in my meals.

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Speaker 4: But in New York it's not even that cost effective

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Speaker 4: to cook. Really, Yeah, this with the cost of ingredients

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Speaker 4: at Whole Foods, which is like the closest.

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Speaker 1: Thing to my but you don't know what's in the

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Speaker 1: food you order.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's why I cook. But I'm saying you didn't

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Speaker 4: care about that, and you only you didn't care about

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Speaker 4: spending like an extra two dollars for a meal, like

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Speaker 4: you could just order something in So I don't I

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Speaker 4: don't blame her, but yeah, she needs to learn how

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Speaker 4: to cook.

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Speaker 2: Oh plate, we have this car. I will learn how

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Speaker 2: to cook. My kids will not be stark. Will they

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Speaker 2: eat lots of grilled cheese? Yes, my kids will probably be.

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Speaker 2: They'll be having two to three week I'm going to

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Speaker 2: make her.

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Speaker 4: Road chicken and broccoli.

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Speaker 1: I am going to tell you my daughter who get

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Speaker 1: really sort of cooked before she got married, but after

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Speaker 1: she got married, we learned to cook. And her daughter,

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Speaker 1: that child you just saw, eats better, more healthy they

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Speaker 1: she cooks unbelievable stuff. That kid eats anything. So you

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Speaker 1: know you'll learn, you'll do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I will because I'm already

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Speaker 2: really psycho about my dog, and my dog eats really well.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like when I have a child's it's

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Speaker 2: very whole, very.

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Speaker 1: Very Where is your dog in Atlanta?

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Speaker 2: He's with my great aunt right now and we miss her.

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Speaker 2: Where is that in Hilton Head?

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Speaker 1: In Hilton Head?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I love it there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's living her best life and she's not

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Speaker 2: in any intense weather. So that's really nice.

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Speaker 1: So what's your next trip? Do you guys have another

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Speaker 1: trip planned?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's not really a trip, but like we're both

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Speaker 4: going to be in La next month, and then for

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Speaker 4: her birthday, we're going out to Carmel by the Sea

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Speaker 1: Are you going to be there when I'm there?

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Speaker 2: When are you there the tenth February? Oh?

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Speaker 4: No? Oh, yeah, we're talking about La or Carmel.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we won't be there till April. Yeah, my birthdays

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Speaker 2: in April. Remember we're all Taurus is Kathy?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I remember April?

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Speaker 2: What April twenty fourth and then nineteen and then pathy.

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Speaker 3: My brother was the twenty Yeah, I think, But.

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Speaker 1: I know I liked you your your birthday. I told

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Speaker 1: you it was my wedding anniversary, so I knew you

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Speaker 1: were a good guy. Thank you, even though you have

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Speaker 1: resting bitch face, but you do smile a lot more.

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Speaker 2: Though I think I used to have RBF as well.

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Speaker 2: I feel like having RBF is maybe just like a

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Speaker 2: tourist trade. I like very much changed that. I feel

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Speaker 2: like in college when people told me I looked really intense.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like sometimes when people tell you that

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Speaker 2: smile all the time.

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Speaker 1: As soon as you said that, Jermy started.

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Speaker 5: Smiling, you know, and he died.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he just laughs.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I have one more question. What is the biggest, single,

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Speaker 1: most important thing you've learned about each other? Pick who's

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Speaker 1: ever going to answer first? Since you left Paradise, since

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Speaker 1: you've you know that, since you left the bubble, most important,

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Speaker 1: and like most significant. Pick a word.

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Speaker 2: Like the most or like.

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Speaker 3: Just that you learned about each other?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the most significant, surprising, wonderful. Pick an adjective.

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Speaker 4: I don't care, probably just you know, obviously people can

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Speaker 4: be thoughtful, but I guess how thoughtful she is and

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Speaker 4: how much she's thinking about anyone besides herself. It's very purple,

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Speaker 4: very nice.

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Speaker 3: Oh, very nice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about you?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like there's so many things I feel

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Speaker 2: like I every day I'm just very impressed with like

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Speaker 2: how diligent and like hard working and focused Jeremy is.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's very inspiring for me because sometimes

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Speaker 2: I do just like want to sit in the bed

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Speaker 2: and you know, nap away at all my problems. And

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Speaker 2: I feel like I really appreciate just that energy that

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Speaker 2: he brings every single day. It's I feel like, really

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Speaker 2: good for me. And also I feel like it's helping

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Speaker 2: me make healthier choices. And you know, I just like

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Speaker 2: I love his energy. I love, like, you know, the

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Speaker 2: just being such like a focused, diligent and just like

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Speaker 2: about it could be about anything, something small, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: If he wants to do it, He's gonna put his

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Speaker 2: I felt that in Paradise, but I think it's really

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Speaker 2: hard to know that is like a truthful quality that

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's a really big thing that I

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Speaker 2: just like love about him, and I feel like that's

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Speaker 2: just been such a wonderful thing to like see him

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Speaker 2: do every day.

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Speaker 4: And oh yeah, so sweet.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, when I saw you gut you well,

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Speaker 1: I should ask you, like, did you see could you

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Speaker 1: imagine yourselves being here in Paradise where you are today?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think you could imagine it, right, Like

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Speaker 4: that's why you got you go on the show, and

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Speaker 4: if you find a connection. I think for me personally,

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Speaker 4: I really just play it day by day.

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Speaker 1: So I'm still play it day by day.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, like my future will be with her, but like,

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Speaker 4: I just don't think there's a point of like overthinking thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kathy, you did do that. You did stab it

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Speaker 1: That's another story. It was how Keith and I made

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Speaker 4: Know, I think that's why you know you weren't winning anyways.

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Speaker 5: Truthfully, like I like to believe me, love springs, Love

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he needs to be very smart, very strong

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Speaker 4: Like mel Owens strong mel Owens is.

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Speaker 2: With Peg.

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Speaker 2: He's just saying, He's just like saying we HadOM golden people.

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Speaker 2: Like that's it's not easy, Kathy, You're on the go.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find him.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah that could you know in your spare time, Bailey,

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Speaker 2: I know I'm going to post an ad on my story.

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Speaker 2: Yes please, Yeah, that's exactly what I need to do.

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Speaker 1: You know what, people will listen to you. You should.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we want to get in to our listener writings.

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Speaker 1: But before we do that, Jeremy, I want to talk

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Speaker 3: It like being with Bachelor Nation folks in such a

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Speaker 1: I did not realize you were not in the mansion.

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Speaker 4: No, we did our first night at a different mansion

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Speaker 1: So did you enjoy it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm probably gonna forget some people. Courtney Robertson, that's

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Speaker 5: I know.

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Speaker 4: I don't watch reality TV, so I don't know what

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Speaker 1: Sondra and Joan were two Goldens that were there.

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Speaker 4: Who's awesome. Who else was there? Dean who? I didn't

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Speaker 3: A fun crowd, huh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wait. I have a question though, Jeremy, having been in

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Speaker 4: You'll have to see.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the whole mansion desperately needed as.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I should have been on this show. Let me

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Speaker 4: I heard remodeling. I heard from a lot of people

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm going to say, Jeremy, I am not

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Speaker 1: it needs updating. That's what it means.

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Speaker 3: The structure is good.

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Speaker 2: However, I know man has served lots of people for

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Speaker 1: Bailey and Jeremy, are you ready, Yes, here we go.

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Speaker 1: This is a question from anonymous. Please keep this anonymous.

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Speaker 1: I love listening to your podcast and hope you can

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Speaker 1: guide me through this. I have come to the conclusion

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing. If you're on a FaceTime with other people,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. It's not for nothing, Like I

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Speaker 1: maybe it's a triangle that it's tough for her to

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Speaker 2: It could be. I think sometimes it's hard when you're

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Speaker 2: can relate to that, like even with their friends, Like

445
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: when their friends get partners, it's like hard because now

446
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 2: your partner has other people and other things that on.

447
00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: So I feel like.

448
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Speaker 4: A hobby, I do.

449
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 2: Wait, I think getting a hobby is important always, Okay,

450
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 2: everyone should have a hobby. But I feel like sometimes

451
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: maybe they're both kind of just getting used to the

452
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: changes and maybe someone can't be there for you like

453
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 2: they used to be, if that makes sense.

454
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, yeah, No, So what you're saying

455
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: that they that the sister has to adapt to the

456
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: new the new normal? Is that what you're saying.

457
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 2: I think they both have to adapt to the new normal,

458
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: And I think they both should definitely talk about it,

459
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 2: and you know, do check ins and see how they are.

460
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: And I don't know, maybe lean on other people or

461
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,239
Speaker 2: friends or you know, other things at that time, but

462
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,199
Speaker 2: it can be hard.

463
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 3: I think I'm wondering if by the else, the older

464
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 3: sisters or siblings or niece that was on that zoom

465
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 3: call noticed anything, or.

466
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: Like, my mom always talks me about things, just like

467
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: does that person seem you know whatever? So maybe it

468
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: would be a good time conversation even with the boyfriend

469
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: and be like, do you you notice like resentment or

470
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: something like that as well?

471
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: Right? Have you, well, Bailey, have you noticed any change

472
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: now that you're with Jeremy? Have you is there any

473
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: change with your relationship with your sister? No?

474
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: I feel like, well, so my sister. Obviously she's in

475
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,440
Speaker 2: a different time zone. We have a family group message.

476
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 2: We text in that and there very often, and I

477
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: feel like my sister and I try to FaceTime every

478
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: few days. I feel like we're both pretty good about

479
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: talking to our family and friends. Obviously. I think it's hard,

480
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: Like you're tired, there's things going on. I've been traveling,

481
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: Like there's just moments where you can't necessarily give everyone

482
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: your full attention, and like if you're not going well,

483
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: like I will say that something that he's really good

484
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 2: about is like helping me set boundaries with people. Obviously

485
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: not my sister, that's not someone I would probably ever

486
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: set boundaries with, but just in general of me, I'm

487
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: always like a person where I'm like, yes, yes, yes,

488
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: I'll come to this. Maybe sometimes I'm tired and I

489
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: don't want to. I feel like that could also tak okay.

490
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 1: So basically, basically, Jeremy's the one that teaches you to

491
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: say no.

492
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 2: He no, He's definitely he's still teaching me to say no.

493
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: I feel like he would say that. I still say

494
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 2: yes a lot. But I think it's good. I think

495
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: I'm learning to like incorporate balance into my life a

496
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: little bit more. And I did, in fact, get some hobbies,

497
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: so I feel like that's been really good too. Hobby's work.

498
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 1: You have hobbies? What are they?

499
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 4: Yes?

500
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 2: WHOA, I've been hobbying it up. I'm really wait what

501
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: I'm into? Needle pointing?

502
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: I just.

503
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 2: For my friend's baby.

504
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: Do you understand I'm a huge needle pointer? Do you

505
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 1: know that?

506
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, Kathy. I am like there, I.

507
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: Have needle point for thirty five years. I will send

508
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: you pictures.

509
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: Of Oh my gosh, I can teach.

510
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: You fancy stitches? Were you?

511
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: Actually? I wait, okay, so when I come to Austin,

512
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna teach me because I haven't gotten that. I

513
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 2: haven't had the time to go to a class yet.

514
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: So I will teach you. I will teach you why

515
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 1: I am an expert.

516
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 2: I went full blown. I just I have like actually,

517
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 2: I just put on my projects and bags. I have

518
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 2: maybe ten projects I'm about to do right now. But

519
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 2: I gave myself this month to finish this, like little

520
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: Bunny Rabbit for my best babies nursery. Yeah, was out,

521
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: and so I have been like grinding is it?

522
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Speaker 1: So I started saying that you understand it? Is it?

523
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: A deal point? Was a dining ard, and then people

524
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: your age are taking it up in droves.

525
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: I'm addicted to it. I love it.

526
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 1: I will show you when you come. But I can

527
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: teach you.

528
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, I'm so excited because it's really difficult because

529
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: I actually don't really have anyone around me that like

530
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: needle points. I have some like online friends that do,

531
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: but it is hard and I really needed a hobby

532
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: because my screen time I was doing over the amount

533
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: of screen time that is in hours of the day.

534
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: I don't know how. Maybe it's because I have two

535
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: phones an iPad, and but my screen time like in

536
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: an insane amount basically, So I.

537
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: Was like, well, now you have another reason to come

538
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: to Austin. I will teach you. Yeah, oh my.

539
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: God, we can go to needle points store. Yeah. So

540
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, my goal for the year is to take

541
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: to do ornaments of every single place that we've been.

542
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: So I bought an ornament when we were in Vegas.

543
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: We went to a like we got to Vegas, we

544
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: went to a needle point store. I got an ornament,

545
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: And so that's kind of like what my my mission

546
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 2: is for the year.

547
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: Okay, well I'm in. I will absolutely help you.

548
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: I love it.

549
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: It makes beautiful Christmas stockings for all her kids.

550
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: I've done Christmas stockings. I've done about seventy ornaments. I've

551
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: done seventeen Santa clauss from around the world. Like I've

552
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: stitched a lot.

553
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: You do you finish them yourself or do you send

554
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: them to a finisher?

555
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: You always send them to a finisher.

556
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: Okay, because I will So like I have some projects

557
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: that I when I started this, like maybe around Christmas,

558
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: that was my mom's Christmas gift to me. One of

559
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: her gifts was like she took me to the needle

560
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: Point store and I just kidded every single canvas I

561
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: went and it was an insane amount of money. It

562
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: is a very hobby and actually I would pick the

563
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: most expensive hobby I can find, so like, oh, okay,

564
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 2: like this is really it's really intense. I was like,

565
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 2: but I can't fathom finishing this myself. I'm gonna have

566
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: to send it to a finisher.

567
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: You want to send it, well, we'll talk offline. I

568
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: will help you with that. Maybe I can help her

569
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: that they're heirlooms. Yeah, that's what I want.

570
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: To save them for my kids and then like pass

571
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: them on and put them on a tree. And I

572
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: feel like that would be just so fun for us.

573
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: I did. I did a the year before my husband died.

574
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: I did a University of Texas boot and in the

575
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: burnt Or with UT on it, and my husband died

576
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: like two months later. And actually this year I wrapped

577
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: it up and gave it to my son for his

578
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: office because he loves UT as well. Yeah, they are heirlooms.

579
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: They're really cool.

580
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: This is very time consuming. Does it take a long

581
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: time to do a project.

582
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yes, yes, one.

583
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: I've been putting in hours. Like I mean, would I say,

584
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: I mean, what would you say? All day?

585
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: Like stitches? Have you learned of different?

586
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know if you can see, but

587
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: like this one I tried to do like a satin

588
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: stitch here yeah, yeah, like it's kind of over and

589
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: then this like this is only I I did a

590
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: mini one and then I started a project and then

591
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 2: I started this, So this is only like my second

592
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: slash first like real canvas. Yeah, and so I'm just

593
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: like I need. I bought the like stitch books, so

594
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to definitely get into it more. But I

595
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: would be to do.

596
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: Like art, you won't be able to once you get

597
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: really into it, Like you know, I'm probably two or

598
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: three hours a day.

599
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think yesterday I stitched for maybe like five

600
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: hours because I'm I'm trying. I need to get it done.

601
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: I'm going back to Atlanta for like two days, and

602
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: so I want to give it to them when I go.

603
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 2: And I gave myself a month to finish it, and

604
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 2: I need to finish it before twenty eight, so twenty

605
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: eight days, I feel like that's pretty good though.

606
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: You'll get that done.

607
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like I'll get faster too. I feel like

608
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: I get into the habit of it. But it is

609
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: like to be happy to like bring back and be

610
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: a part of like the movement bringing back you know, pointing,

611
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: and like, I would really like to know how to knit.

612
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: Later I think I get teach you that. Yeah, okay,

613
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: so I want to know how to crochet off sweaters.

614
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: So that's that's why I want to knit, so that.

615
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: I probably want to crochet them. But we can talk.

616
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: About maybe maybe that's what I to do. But and

617
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: like I feel like that's just so fun.

618
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: And then Jeremy, do you want to learn? I could

619
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: like teach a small class with you.

620
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: I actually they always ask me if he wants to

621
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: put it put the needle through, and he's like, I'm

622
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: just gonna let you handle that.

623
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 3: My kids a bunch of blankets, blankets.

624
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone's getting a blanket next Christmas.

625
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: I got to tell you guys a funny story. Before

626
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: all three of my kids took piano lessons and I

627
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: would always bring my needle point and stitch while they

628
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: were having their lesson. And this will be at my funeral.

629
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: To this day, my kids still teach me about it.

630
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: If they had a bad lesson, they're like, there you were, mom,

631
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: poking the needle in up the canvas and pulling it

632
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: and poking again. They will never Yeah, taking my aggression

633
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: of their bad lesson on my.

634
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: I feel like it's actually a really good way to

635
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: like relieve stress. So that's also why I don't have

636
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: really good like coping habits to like relieve my stress.

637
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm constantly stressed. And so yeah, it

638
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: was kind of like a hope.

639
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: Like you, I'm so when you come to us and

640
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: I will take you to an little point store, I will.

641
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: I'll teach you all the tricks of the trade. And

642
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: Jeremy can't cook for us.

643
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's me and you in the kitchen. Jeremy, you can,

644
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: He'll go buy the food.

645
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: Needs help. No, I'm wait, not help like that. I

646
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: feel like he just like makes his basic thing, like

647
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't bake or anything.

648
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: I beg Kathy bags.

649
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I really a good baker. I think

650
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: that's where where.

651
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: I'd rather cook than bake, you know, because I don't

652
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 3: follow the instructions to the tea you're cook and you

653
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 3: know how much of this, A little pinch of this.

654
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: And like it just like speaks to you. See maybe

655
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 2: because like I'm a picky eater, I don't know if

656
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: cooking will ever speak to me and my soul. I

657
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: think that's maybe that is going to be a little bit.

658
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: You know, I got all this conversation of cooking. I

659
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: gotta go. I'm getting hungry. We gotta wrap here.

660
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: We're going to order food in tonight.

661
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: All right, well, all this talk of food, I'm getting hungry.

662
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: It's time to wrap this episode. Bailey and Jeremy, thank

663
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us. It personally has been

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Speaker 1: such a pleasure to catch up with both of you.

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Speaker 3: And for me to see you you smile, Jeremy as

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Speaker 3: much as you have here, I have a whole different

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 3: And thank you to all of our listeners. We hope

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Speaker 3: you enjoyed the two of them as much as we did.

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