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Speaker 1: We had to unpack this. We'll do that right now.

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Speaker 1: You were like full Tennessee. Now, like you got the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's it's kind of it's kind of everywhere,

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Speaker 2: and we're really liking it. The beard's coming in nice

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Speaker 1: Have you been in Loveless cafe yet?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's great. Over there, there's so many

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so right. I used to live in Nashville. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you do you have a Do you have a fire pit?

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Speaker 2: Of course. I mean, you know, I didn't learn how

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Speaker 1: That is amazing. Sunday night dinners. Yeah. When I was

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Speaker 1: And as we're recording this, Lord Willing, I think I'm

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Speaker 2: Right, soah, I can't.

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Speaker 2: So well this was maybe three Christmases ago. I wrote

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. So if you send me some of those pictures,

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Speaker 1: You don't know this yet. We have an email that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fascinating. Calling you narrow minded right when they

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Speaker 1: So, Kirk, did any of this influence your move to

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Speaker 2: of show or a playlist of songs and sermons and

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Speaker 2: elements that's perfectly timed to get one or two or

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Speaker 2: three services through in order to expand our customer base

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Speaker 2: and then increase revenue. Tides year over year. Wow, it

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Speaker 2: just starts to really make me feel very, very uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: So I'm just really looking for that which is true

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Speaker 2: and real and really going to build up my faith,

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Speaker 2: not like the stuff that we so often see, I think,

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Speaker 2: particularly in the South. I love the South. I love

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Speaker 2: cultural Christianity. I want my culture to be marked by Christianity,

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Speaker 2: not by paganism, not by evil. I want it to

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Speaker 2: be a culture that is derived from Christianity, just not

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Speaker 2: what my son calls Instagram Christianity. He's like, unfortunately, that's

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Speaker 2: a lot of what I see Instagram Christianity. And I

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Speaker 2: think that just sort of says it. You know, it's

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Speaker 2: about that picture and that moment and how I look,

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Speaker 2: and you know, all all of that. So I'm encouraged

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Speaker 2: that there is a young generation who is searching and

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Speaker 2: longing for authenticity and fidelity to what Scripture says we

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Speaker 2: ought to be doing as christ follow.

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Speaker 1: Amen. Wow, that's fascinating, right. I mean to say I

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Speaker 1: love cultural Christianity, it's because it's seen in such a

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Speaker 1: negative light. In fact, I've actually painted it in a

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Speaker 1: negative light most of the time. But he's right, you know,

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Speaker 1: we should love to live in a culture that's based

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Speaker 1: on Christian WORLDVIEP. But what we're not saying is you

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Speaker 1: should be a lukewarm cultural Christian. Right, there's two different

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Speaker 1: things here, So we should love the culture of Christians

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Speaker 1: and and push against people that are mild Christians.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, could I just double click on that for a second.

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Speaker 2: I think it's really really interesting. We were talking today

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Speaker 2: about about true worship versus false worship. Think of the Pharisees.

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Speaker 2: I hadn't thought about that this until just this this second,

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Speaker 2: when when you mentioned it. But they were cultural Jews, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean they had they had you know, we talk

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Speaker 2: abou cultural Christianity is I could say it's fake it

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Speaker 2: shall They had cultural Judaism to where I mean, it

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Speaker 2: had all all of the packaging and the wrapping. But

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Speaker 2: Jesus came down the hardest on them and said, look,

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Speaker 2: the outside of the cup is sparkling clean. You got

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Speaker 2: these robes and prayers and all this stuff, but the

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Speaker 2: inside is full of dead men's bones. And he didn't

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Speaker 2: just say just clean the inside of the cup, that's

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Speaker 2: all that matters. He said, clean the inside of the

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Speaker 2: cup first, then the outside will become clean as well.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the kind of cultural judaism or

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Speaker 2: back in that day, which yeah, I mean Jerusalem didn't

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Speaker 2: last long, you know, another forty years, and it was

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Speaker 2: it was destroyed. But I think that we have in

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Speaker 2: the New Testament, the New Covenant order, have the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to bring about cultural Christianity that is the result of

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Speaker 2: an overflow of the inside of the cup being clean,

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Speaker 2: because the heart is overhauled by the Gospel spilling over

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Speaker 2: and cleaning the outside of culture, which is family, which

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Speaker 2: is government, which is the arts, which is education, which

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Speaker 2: is all of these things. And that is that is

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Speaker 2: the true hope of our our pilgrim forefathers and fore mothers.

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Speaker 2: And I think the answer to Jesus's prayer word, mayor

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Speaker 2: Kingdom come, and you will be done on earth as

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Speaker 2: it is in heaven, not just in our hearts, so

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Speaker 2: we can get out of the earth and to heaven,

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Speaker 2: but so that we can heavinize the earth to the

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Speaker 2: power of the Gospel flowing from the inside to the outside.

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Speaker 1: This is so helpful, This is so helpful. I I

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Speaker 1: heavenize the earth. We should say we want cultural Christianity,

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Speaker 1: but we need to go about it. The right way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's tremendous. Okay, and man, do you want to give

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Speaker 1: us this this email?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: This is like Kirk's the perfect guy. Yeah yeah, I

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00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: think so too.

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Speaker 2: Then it's a snarky email coming.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is very snarky, but it's not to me

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Speaker 1: nor you. It's not to either one of us, So

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Speaker 1: don't worry about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're neither one of your Are there are pointed

510
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Speaker 3: at in the snarky ism here? It says Hey Granger,

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Speaker 3: So if it is to anybody, I guess it'd be

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Speaker 3: to you. But I just saw this wild story out

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Speaker 3: of China about scientists working on a pregnancy robot that

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Speaker 3: could actually carry a baby to term. Supposedly, it has

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Speaker 3: an artificial womb with nutrients pumped in and everything. Made

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Speaker 3: me wonder what you think.

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Speaker 1: About stuff like this.

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Speaker 3: Is there a situation where something like this could be

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Speaker 3: a good thing, like helping with infertility or premies. Honestly,

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Speaker 3: it just feels like society might be pushing too far

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Speaker 3: with AI and tech, and I'd love to hear your

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Speaker 3: take on it. Thanks, Jeremy. Have either one of you

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Speaker 3: heard about this yet?

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Speaker 1: No? I have not.

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Speaker 2: A robot womb. What could possibly go wrong?

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Speaker 1: Nothing?

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Speaker 3: It's been perfected, Kirk, It's been perfected.

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Speaker 1: Come on, did you look this up? Did you fit?

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Speaker 1: Did you fact check this at all? Yes? I did? Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's what we do know.

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Speaker 3: A prototype timeline is already in the works, expected by

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Speaker 3: I believe the fall of twenty twenty six. A prototype.

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Speaker 3: How it works. The artificial wound contains synthetic ambiotic fluid,

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Speaker 3: and the fetus received nutrients and oxygen and through it

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Speaker 3: to much like an umbilical cord. The cost projection they

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Speaker 3: already have that from estimated at about one hundred thousand

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Speaker 3: yen or in the United States just under fourteen thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: So this could be appealing to some surrogacy because that

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Speaker 3: right there already runs between like one hundred and two

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars here in the United States.

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Speaker 1: The motivation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, seen as a potential solution to infertility, reducing physical

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Speaker 3: and emotional burdens on women and addressing demographic challenges such

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Speaker 3: as declining birth rates. So yeah, there's some validity behind this.

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Speaker 3: They say that multiple reputable news outlets reported that a

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Speaker 3: Chinese company named Kiwa Technology has unveiled plans for a

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Speaker 3: pregnancy robot.

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Speaker 1: Kirk, you have four adopted children? Is that right? Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's right? This? What is this? What does this mean

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Speaker 1: for for our worldview? Do you think? Well?

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Speaker 2: First of all, I don't hit the panic panic button

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Speaker 2: with stuff like this, because I remember that when they

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Speaker 2: when they, when technology had gotten to the point, uh,

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Speaker 2: and evil had gotten to the point where the hearts

555
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: and minds of men were only evil continually and uh

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Speaker 2: and they and they built a great, big tower called Babbel.

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Speaker 2: God had no problem frustrating their plans, scattering them and

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Speaker 2: starting over. So if you want to talk about the

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Speaker 2: great reset, you know, uh, Klaus Schwab ought to be

560
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Speaker 2: shaking in his boots about a bigger, great reset that

561
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Speaker 2: could you know, swallow him up in the deluge. So

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Speaker 2: I don't hit the panic button because I know that

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Speaker 2: the blessed controller of all things is behind the curtain,

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Speaker 2: and he's working all things together for good for those

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Speaker 2: who love him and are called according to his purpose.

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Speaker 2: So that's my that's my framework there. I say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: what do I think about robotic wounds? Well, you know, look,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if that robotic womb actually started

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Speaker 2: with a robotic wife and you could just pregnate her.

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Speaker 2: You know, they work that out. I mean, I've seen

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Speaker 2: robots that are already walking around with AI and and

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Speaker 2: flesh like you know, substances on the body and with

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Speaker 2: I mean there's one hundred percent of that stuff's all

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Speaker 2: coming down the shoot. And then who needs a wife anymore?

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Speaker 2: Who needs a husband anymore? You know, she'll do everything

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Speaker 2: you want. She never says no, and she'll make the

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Speaker 2: baby with the green eyes and the curly hair that

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Speaker 2: you want, and it'll be cheaper than adoption or IVF

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Speaker 2: or whatever. So I think all that's gonna be possible

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day. Do I trust that

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Speaker 2: that's going to be a good thing. Well, we could

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Speaker 2: say that it's a good thing, and that's how you

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Speaker 2: get it to kind of go through with tax dollars

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Speaker 2: and stuff. But we have a terrible track record. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look look what we do with opioids, and

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00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 2: look what we do with uh ai and other technology. Now,

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Speaker 2: we don't have the moral maturity to keep up with

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Speaker 2: what God has allowed us to discover technologically. And if

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Speaker 2: if we don't stop being retarded morally and spiritually, we're

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Speaker 2: going to kill ourselves and God will, I believe, will

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Speaker 2: let us do it. So with regard to to all

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Speaker 2: of these things, I don't know where it's going to go.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't have a crystal ball. But God,

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Speaker 2: God knows the past, the present, of the future, and

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Speaker 2: he will use it for the good of those who

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Speaker 2: love him. But it's sure, is it sure? Is fascinating?

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Speaker 2: And I think at the end of the day it

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Speaker 2: will come down to people having to make the decision

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Speaker 2: that it'll come down to what does it even mean

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Speaker 2: to be human? I mean, we've already gotten to the

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Speaker 2: point what does it mean to be a man? And

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Speaker 2: and and and the elites in the academic circles can't

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Speaker 2: seem to even answer the question what does it mean

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Speaker 2: to be a woman? I think it's going to get

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Speaker 2: to what does it mean to be a human? And

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Speaker 2: and and it's going to ultimately come down to either

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Speaker 2: we're made in the image of God or we're just

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Speaker 2: a bunch of chemical reactions and electrical impulses. And if

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Speaker 2: that's all we are, then what's wrong with transhumanism and

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Speaker 2: robotic wounds? Maybe just an improvement on the on the

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Speaker 2: on the evolutionary design. But if we're made in the

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Speaker 2: image of God, then our first priority must be to

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Speaker 2: honor our creator and ask him how we ought to

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Speaker 2: be making babies.

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Speaker 1: Which the Bible's is very detailed on. Many times the

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Speaker 1: Bible will bring up a womb or in the design

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Speaker 1: and a mother's relationship to the womb. In fact, Abraham

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Speaker 1: and Sarah couldn't have a baby, and in their in faithfulness,

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Speaker 1: they tried to go to not a robotic womb, but they.

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Speaker 3: Right and would they not have though if this were available? Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 3: this is you know, this is the this is the

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Speaker 3: answer to God's plan for our family.

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Speaker 1: This robot right.

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Speaker 2: Here, and I mean that's the that's the that's the

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Speaker 2: challenge with things like I v F.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: I have family members who have children today through IVF,

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Speaker 2: and we also know the the tragedy and the heartbreak

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Speaker 2: that is the downside of IVF. All these little embryos

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Speaker 2: that are being flushed away that could be people, and

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Speaker 2: we're saying that they're embryos, just like little embryos that

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Speaker 2: are in a womb that get aboarded. And so it's

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Speaker 2: this kind of technology presents great moral dilemmas. And we

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Speaker 2: need to pick up our game morally and our ability

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Speaker 2: to reason biblically.

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Speaker 1: And what's the story of your your four children adopted?

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Speaker 1: Are there different stories?

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Speaker 2: Well, they each have their own different story that they're

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Speaker 2: all We adopted them all about a year apart, and

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Speaker 2: from all different places here in the US. And our kids.

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Speaker 2: We have two boys and three girls, and now they

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Speaker 2: all live here in Tennessee. Some of them are married,

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Speaker 2: some of them are not. We have a granddaughter, and

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Speaker 2: so we're kind of like the Brady Budge, except without

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Speaker 2: Alice and and and the Butcher and Sam the Butcher.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Man. Well, we are going to see

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Speaker 1: you Lord Willing very soon. Amber. Ye, Amber has a.

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Speaker 2: Book excited for you for you to come out. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: and let's make sure we go you have lunch, dinner

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Speaker 2: or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, well, brother, it's good to see you. You look

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Speaker 1: good in that Tennessee T shirt. You look good in

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Speaker 1: front of that white brick.

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Speaker 3: The beard man, The beard's growing in.

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Speaker 1: Little Beard's growing in nicely. We'll see you by a

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Speaker 1: camp fire very soon.

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Speaker 2: That sounds great. And thanks again for all your encouragement,

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Speaker 2: and please keep up the good work. We need thoughtful, educated,

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Speaker 2: good communicators of biblical truths that are family focused and

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Speaker 2: God honoring like you, So please don't stop doing what

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Speaker 2: you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Well, brother, I think the same thing about you. You're

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Speaker 1: such an encouragement to me and so many so thank

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Speaker 1: you as well. All right, God bless you, guys, appreciate

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Speaker 1: your brother, God bless you. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: hanging out with me on this episode of the Grangersmith Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again for being here. We'll see you next time,

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