WEBVTT - Ep.087: The Meat Tree, Part 2 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 This is the Meat Eater Podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:18.360 bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening podcast. You 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:26.840 can't predict anything. Welcome back to the Meat Eater Podcast. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:31.760 You are about ready to dig into The Meat Tree 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.000 Part two. Now, if you don't know what I'm talking about, 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:36.200 what I'm talking about is a story about a fog 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:41.240 Neck Island and a particular brown bear. This doesn't sound 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:46.479 familiar to you, back up a episode and go listen 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:51.080 to The Meat Tree Part one. If you've already listened 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:52.800 to The Meat Tree Part one and you know that 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:55.600 you're in the right place, welcome back. We will now 0:00:55.960 --> 0:01:00.080 proceed with the story. Are you the first guy it 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:04.560 saw it? I definitely heard him first, and I think 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:09.440 I expressed some some fear that there was something in 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.800 the woods right next to us. And then as soon 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:15.920 as I heard that breathing and that that deep, you know, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.760 panting noise, you started hearing some twig snap and you 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:23.440 could hear something coming out as full bore, and then 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:27.880 it was like all hell broke loose? Would you agree 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.560 that's how that's you saw? And then and then made Wayne, 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:34.360 Chris and I were sitting did you see him. Yeah, 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.759 you guys, I saw Pat's face and that, like I am, 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:41.200 my attention immediately went to the sound and I just 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:47.120 saw like that light color hair just shaking back and 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.760 forth and locked eyes with him and he was coming. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:55.880 And that was probably that's when that pandemonium of oh, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:02:04.400 f bombs, shit, this is going down, and it was 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.360 this is it was like no chance to grab bear, 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.240 spray pistols, anything. It was like that bear was on 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.360 top of us before we even knew what was going on. Basically, 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:19.079 what was what was your first, registrate, when did you 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.320 first register it? I think in the same moment, But 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.840 I knew like the whole time. And this was um 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:29.960 complacency on my part. I didn't have any protection and 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.000 like I didn't cross my mind and look for some 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.040 sort of spray or I should have been I should 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.880 have had something. And so like my initial reaction not 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:43.040 even seen it, was get behind the separate myself from 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.760 the sound in the direction all the ship was happening 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:47.639 and the tree. So I just ran behind the see 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.080 it before it was in amongst us. No, I saw 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.520 only when it wrapped around the tree after all the 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:56.520 other Yeah, and that's yeah, And it was right, I 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.799 saw a charging through the woods. I didn't see that. 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.480 So you guys saw a char the woods, you suck pounder, 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:03.720 When did you see it? I was sitting there eating 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.040 my sandwich, and I remember looking at Pat and seeing 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:09.520 Pat's face and like him registering what was going on. 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.400 And then all of a sudden, everybody's up and I 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.000 see the bear. So I'm like looking at Pat and 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.119 I look laughing, there's a there's a bear, like right there. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.760 I had my back to the bear's approach, and I 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.280 somehow when I saw it, like you know, like you 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:28.000 I see all you like the guys that see it, 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:32.360 causes me to turn toward it, turned to my left 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.680 toward it. But then it's like passing. I just remember, 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:41.640 it's just teeth passing, I mean within arms reach of 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.640 the right side of my face coming into I don't, 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:52.080 I don't know what the like. You know, there's this 0:03:52.160 --> 0:03:58.200 there's this idea that, uh, when you remember reading about 0:03:58.200 --> 0:03:59.680 this thing where this guy is saying that like you 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.760 tell a dude guy that fell off of his roof, 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:11.440 and the feeling that like your life like flashes before 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:16.400 your eyes, you know, and then later feeling like you 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.000 think that it did right. There's this idea that, uh 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:25.800 that in that in those seconds you really maybe are 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.839 processing a bunch of thoughts or there's a there's this 0:04:31.000 --> 0:04:35.279 argument psychology that you really are like processing quick processing 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:40.839 thoughts and fractions of seconds, or the memory you later 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:46.200 your mind overlays the memory with thoughts, and that when 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.120 your life flashes before your eyes in a moment, it didn't. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:53.359 It just becomes overlaid in recollection because you're like thankful 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:56.960 that you're still there, and you and you think that 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:01.240 they were contemporaneous, they but they perhaps weren't. I remember 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:06.880 thinking at the teeth. I remember thinking that, uh, I 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:11.320 was like, life will be different now, yeah, because someone 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:15.360 is someone is getting um, someone is going to be 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.800 maimed or killed right now, and life is different. Everything 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.440 is in life is different from this point forward. It's like, 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:23.200 I feel like that happened to me the second I 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:27.240 turned and it was like within easy arms reaches, the 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.720 thing's a gape mouth and the noise it was making 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:38.120 that that second was ah, yeah, I feel like I 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:42.880 distinctly remember the things that were the most disturbing. Part 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.400 of it is the things that you were thinking while 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:49.440 this is going down. I feel like like, oh, that's 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.880 the worst case scenario type the worst case scenario. But 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:57.360 I distinctly in the moment had thoughts. I don't think 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.160 it was after the fact, but maybe it will. That's 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:06.320 that's because I just like, well, but my my actions 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:09.400 of the thoughts that I had, you know what I'm saying. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:15.960 So my thought, my first thought was oh shit, obviously, 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.760 but what I was thinking of is my pistol is 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.240 there and the bear is running towards my like I 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.960 have no protection. This is how we're gonna die. And 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.200 my thought was as soon as I can get a 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.920 chance to get that pistol, I'm either gonna get named 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:34.320 getting that pistol or I'm not gonna like, you know, 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.000 because somebody is going to get it here. You know, 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.520 My first like actual real thought that I know happened 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.080 because I acted upon it was to dive out of 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.560 the way of the bear. And I didn't hurt my ankle. 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:48.919 I never like twist my ankles, but actually injured my 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.400 ankle clearing myself of the bear. Do you feel like 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:54.600 you got to your feet? No, I don't know. What 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.320 I did was in a very relaxed like on his 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:02.719 side almost like you're supporting your body on your elbow, 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:06.600 you're laying down, and especially if you remember that bear 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.840 coming down within arms reach and those teeth, I almost 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:14.960 feel like you must have like moved from a down 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:17.360 position to like another down position. I think I just 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:22.800 kind of rolled and sprang downhill. That's what I downhill. Yeah, 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.080 definitely downhill. Yeah, there was no because I was at 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:32.640 that little cut out, a little dugout spot. I rolled downhill. Yanni, 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.000 Now you tell what happened, because this could be a 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.840 thing that's this could be like a very important part, 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.480 like what you did. I feel like I'm involved in 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:46.560 the pivotal, pivotal moment, but there could be a lot 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:50.720 of reasons, like a lot of other uh things that 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.320 made it a pivotal moment, you know, obviously, just like 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.960 what the bear decided to do at that moment. But 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:04.600 I certainly didn't have have um thoughts. There were There 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.480 are no thoughts. There was I did I remember pat 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.520 saying something. I remember like registering that like yes, there's 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:14.920 a bear coming in, and then I remember like my 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:18.080 sandwich being thrown to the ground. I remember being on 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:21.560 my feet. I do not remember picking up hiking poles. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:24.040 I do not remember that. I just remember like, and 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:25.600 I don't remember the bear, Like there was like a 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.000 little gully that the bear came out of, right, and 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.680 then there was about probably ten to fifteen feet of 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:36.160 open grass before he got to us. And I feel like, really, 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.200 the only thing I remember is being in a very 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:42.760 aggressive stance with two ski poles held by the handles 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:50.720 in my hands. Yeah, flick locks, fuck saved our lives. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:56.959 And I don't remember making the choice because I had 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.760 my bear spray on my hip and I just like, 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.000 on your pack, no, no, no, I had my pistol. 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.280 I was running in the same thing I ran last 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.839 week hunting the elk. I was running pistol on the pack, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.240 bear spray on my actual belt. That way when you 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.360 go take a pack off, take a pee or whatever, 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:17.320 I'm at least carrying one of the And um, I'm 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:21.800 still gonna always have bear spray first, gone second. It's 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.720 just gonna I think it's gonna be my life rule 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:29.840 in Gris Country. We can talk about that later, but um, yeah, 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.720 it was just there on top on like on top 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.480 of us. I remember thinking, yes, this is it. I'm 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:41.160 going to get mauled and I like, all I can 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.720 think is that I somehow made not consciously, but somehow 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.800 somewhere in my head it was fight. And so I 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:52.120 swung those poles as hard as I could, right at 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:56.400 his face, at his head. And I've already recounted the 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.760 story a few times, but there's never been a moment 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:04.880 in my life where there was a um more unexpected 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:10.800 outcome to one of my actions. It was like kids, 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.800 they don't just go like, okay, then exactly, here's here's 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:15.679 kind of here's a I'm gonna try to make a 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.000 good analogy here. It would be like me stepping into 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.880 the cub stadium and if someone could give me a 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:26.160 picture's name and then throwing a fastball at me Muhammad 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.760 Ali it was not a picture, he was a boxer, 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.000 and me taking a ninety mile fastball and swinging that 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.920 bat and knocking it out of the park. That would 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.000 be like how unexpected you would think the outcome would 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.400 be of that action, right, because you'd expect just to 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.680 whiff and you wouldn't even touch the ball. Maybe you 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.319 would like touch the ball and foul out behind you, right, 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.240 But what it felt like was that I hit that 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.560 ball and then went out of the stadium because as 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:59.160 I connected with this with this bear's face, he did 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.480 a reason or maybe not quite one eight because I 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:03.840 felt like he came in if you can imagine like 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.480 in acute triangle that you're looking from the point down. 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.040 He came in on one of the sides, and he 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:14.160 turned and went off the other side. That was that 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.520 was a blur of bear that wasn't. That was most 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:21.920 surprised to me is that it I was anticipating this 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.240 being a sort of a drawn This was gonna be 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.959 a drawn like I feel as though I was thinking 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.800 that this is gonna be a sort of drawn out thing. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.560 The fight that is gonna begin, Yeah, yeah, it wasn't 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.560 gonna resolve. It was gonna be like someone he's gonna 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:42.120 get that a gape mouth is gonna get on someone 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:45.160 that we're gonna have to like that that we're in 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:49.520 a mix up. Now like the fight has begun, but 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.520 it ended, so we haven't even got into the saga 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:56.680 of dirt myth. Yeah, so you connect on his head, 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:03.600 he spins, and what I registered from that moment is 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.280 that at that point I turned and I feel as 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:14.200 though he has dragged is dragging dirt downhill. That's what 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:18.280 I thought he had dirt. It was hauling dirt downhill. 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:23.440 Dirt's ready because he just spit into his just spit 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:29.000 into his high end juice bottle that was orange first 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:34.880 light logo and a bear orange logo and a bear 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.960 going in the same direction. Yeah, I thought he was 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:41.720 dragging you down, and I we'll get to the reality. 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.079 But I thought he was dragging you down. And I 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:49.880 was frantically trying to find my pack, which wasn't hard 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:53.160 to find, leaning against the tree to get my spray 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:54.960 to go down and like that we would all go 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.360 down and attack the bear with with whatever. I was like, 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:01.720 where's the spray, where's the guns? Right, We're go save dirt. 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:07.040 But what happened was that so I, like I said, 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:10.760 I wasn't opposite of Yanni. My instant deal was flight, 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:14.120 Like it didn't ever occur like face this thing and 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.880 the assess well, because there was but there was something. 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.000 There was no face. He was like already, um yeah, 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.160 yeah no, but I'm saying so like funny, I couldn't 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.559 have a three stooges. But it's just like he was 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:25.360 just like it was like he wasn't but I wasn't 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.520 like looking at my pack for my spray type. I 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.560 think everybody had that. There was no decisions made. Oh no, 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.760 I'm sorry. Remy did say he like, I mean I was. 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.720 I was. My intention was to go because when I 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.559 said I, well, I didn't add this the story, but 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.840 I was thinking pistol and it's in front of me 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.240 where you were. You ran out to the side, and 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.480 I like start to go to the pistol, and now 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.960 I'm caught between. Now I don't have any time. So 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:54.400 I did this like juke move and jumped to the side. 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:59.440 That's when Yanni took two steps up and that bear turned, 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.800 so I thought, oh shit, Like I I went left, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:07.120 the bear went right towards Janice, and then the bear 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.920 wheeled around. But Janice was at this point, I couldn't 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.600 see the action of the swinging. I just saw Janice 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.000 and bear right here. I mean I was within arms 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:21.200 arms reach of the bear, and I think Janice must 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:24.160 have turned around. I juked, then he turned around and 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.000 the bear went down. Yeah, it was so much that 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:29.640 I don't even know if if I like made like 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.960 if I made contact with the bear or not, like 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.600 in rolling out of the way. It was so fast. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.320 It was very fast because it was like here and 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:40.720 just to reach across the couch to grab a pistol 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.840 where you go forward, and the action of going for 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.560 the pistol made me go, oh funk, I have no 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:50.080 time to get away. So like that left right real fast, 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:52.200 like which day am I gonna go? And I went 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:53.760 right and the bear kind of went right and I 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.480 went left, and then the bear kind of did that 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:00.160 towards Janice. Janice must have swung because I said just 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.320 after I joked him, the bear turned around and it 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.360 was and then later your honest was like you know 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:09.040 why he turned around? It's like no clue, Yeah, dude. 0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:10.640 It would be like if you were like sitting in 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.280 your living room watching TV and then all of a sudden, 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.240 like the bear doesn't come in through the front door. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.200 The bear is just like next to you and you're like, 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.000 I gotta do something, and it's like that's the reaction speed, 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.480 Like that's how fast happened. I think what the saga 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:26.000 of dirt myth? Yeah, so I was behind the tree, 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:29.040 like you said, even though it's happening fast, I remember 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.240 thinking like something it's going to be messing people up 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.280 and like assess it kind of and but like the second, 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:38.760 I mean that happened split second, and that same second 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.880 it came on the back side where I was, and 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.960 I think and try and like, oh, ship you know, 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.040 it's like it's happening here. Do you mean he went 0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:50.840 all the way around the tree, so the way like 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.040 he came in. I don't know if he went all 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:54.440 the way around the tree, because if he did, he 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.200 would have the bottom because he would have had to 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:59.720 come over my head and he didn't. I don't think 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.400 you ever turned around where Steve was sitting. He came 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.160 down my side of the tree. Yeah, he couldn't have 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.560 gone around because he would have stepped out all messed 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.480 up because I like, I've literally been plant back over 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:13.880 and over. Yeah, but at some point, so I'm totally like, 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.680 this is interesting because this whole time I've been thinking 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.800 he went above like uphill of the tree, wrapped around 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.720 to where I was at. That's what I thought happened 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:26.680 to you and Steve must have ended up in similar places. Yeah, 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:30.000 I think. So it's like this freeze frame of this, 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.280 I mean, ship man that was like four ft broad bear. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.120 I feel like I don't know if that's an exaggeration. 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.600 Big right there and in some movement of mine or 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.000 being bumped by someone, I think in like trying to 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.960 get out of the way, I tripped and fell on 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:49.400 its back as it was passing by and was riding 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.760 on its on its bag, on its hump, on my back, 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:59.520 just pure coincidence and momentum, like for one Mississippi was 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.840 on its back act and got bucked off into an 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:06.320 alder down he went. You went on him about fifteen 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.600 feet down and crashed into an alder pack. And I 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.800 thought when I was on his back, like my thought 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.000 was like I'm the one that's fucked, like he's this 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.320 is like he's gonna like I'm gonna drop and he's 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.399 gonna turn and get me. And when I got bucked 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.639 and was he already had you? I thought he was 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:27.240 carrying you. It looked I was just riding riding him, 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.640 riding the storm. Later talking about how he got hurt 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.560 when he got bucked off. He's got a bruise. I've 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:40.800 seen it, but the yeah and then then yeah, immediately 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.399 realized everything was okay, and hear did you guys say, 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.199 where's Garrett? It was surreal, I mean for everyone, but 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.560 it was like did I Yeah, I remember somebody yelled 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:55.719 to count off. Remember ever he goes, because I I 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.040 remember seeing Garrett at this point. I had my pistol ready, 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:00.879 and I saw you and I started running down in 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:04.280 that direction and then you stood up, and I thought like, oh, 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.600 he's got to be right there because I saw you 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.879 and bear and going downhill, and I did you because 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:12.080 you would have been on that side of the tree 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.159 by that point as well. No, I saw Garrett right, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:18.200 I thought the bear had Garrett. So at this point, Yanny, 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:20.360 you had your you had your pistol by now. Yeah, 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:22.760 because I think as soon as he was going downhill 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:26.400 with Garrett, I think you were the one saying like, 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.320 you know, everybody, get your bear sprays, get your pistols. 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:31.000 And I said, not all of this is legal or not. 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.240 I'm assuming it's legal. I said, if that bear comes back, 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:41.000 kill it. And I said no, ship yeah I was. 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.120 I was like, I think at this point we've crossed 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:49.200 into because here's the thing you can't okay in Alaska, 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:55.000 you know, so in the Lord forty eight bears are 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:59.399 covered with the exception, with the exception very recently of 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:04.119 the greater you Elstone ecosystem. Uh that you know in 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:09.400 Indiana sized hunk of ground of Idaho, Woming, Montana. Until recently, 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:11.960 we hold me back. That was a confusing way of 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:13.680 putting it. In the lower fort they have ees a 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:18.400 protection outside of a very small area. Uh. And so 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:20.760 it's like, if you kill a bear to defense, in 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:23.359 self defense or in defense, you can't kill it in 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:28.280 defensive property. Okay, you can kill it in defensive life. 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.800 In Alaska you can kill a bear in defense of property. 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.720 So if a grizzly, if a brown bear grizzly is tearing, 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.919 is destroying your camp, you can kill the bear. You 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:42.960 can't kill the bear to protect your kill. If a 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.479 bear claims your moose kill and you don't have a 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.760 permit to kill the bear as a hunter, you need 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:52.080 to forfeit the kill to the bear. But in this case, 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.199 we've been attacked. It wasn't like and there was no 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.880 access to the meat for this bear. Yeah he would 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:01.000 he didn't have it. We've been a hacked. So I 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:03.760 yelled out, if that bear comes back, shoot it because 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:08.880 you know, because of obvious reasons, Um, sweet have been Yeah, 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:16.280 defensive life in that case, uh, suddenly uphill, even though 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:21.960 he left downhill, suddenly uphill. We heard him wolfing. So 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:26.960 there's different among our group. There's different interpretations. I feel 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.399 as though it was the same bear. They're so freaking fast, 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:34.760 he was just back up there wolfing. Um. There's also 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.040 the idea that that it had a cub up there, 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:39.880 then that cub was wolfing. But I don't think that's 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:43.400 what happened. I think that bear just was so freaking 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.760 he was jack jacked up and fast he was back 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:51.040 up there. Um. I mean we kind of surrounded the tree. 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:55.159 People everyone facing in different directions. I went up in 0:20:55.200 --> 0:21:04.080 the tree started cutting meat out. Some people would have 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:05.800 just ditched it, but I wasn't. I didn't want to 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:08.080 ditch it was I was like, let's get the heck 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:11.400 out of here. We we We made a pretty good 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:15.119 formation quick though. We circled up. Everybody was pointing in 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.880 a different trection. We circled up around the tree. Everybody 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.320 had protection at that point. To Johannest and I were 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.840 the two with the pistols. Everyone now had bear spray 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:27.160 in their hands, so we were we were collecting everyone's 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.800 at this point, cool headed and collected. Our backs were 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.040 to a tree, so we couldn't get attacked from the back. 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:34.359 We don't see the bear coming in at this point. 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.760 You were now in the tree getting the meat, started 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:40.160 cutting meat down out of the tree. And then anytime 0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:43.639 somebody went to go get something, we had the pistols 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:46.399 and we made we were creating our own confusion. But 0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.720 because we're making a ton of noise, because thinking that, 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.600 and I know it works, making noise at bears bugs bears. Right, 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:57.800 So like an authoritative like hey, I just noticed through 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.320 a lot of personal experience, like an authority hate of 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:05.040 standing up group of guys going hey is intimidating the bears. Dude, 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.240 my voice is still raspy from you. But we made 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:12.760 it rule too, don't say bear unless you see a bear. Hey, 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.480 and all that's okay, but going hey, bear bar because 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:18.440 we kept like causing a little bit confusion about whether 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:21.000 someone was seeing it or not. And I'm up in 0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:22.480 the tree and I got a pretty good view at 0:22:22.480 --> 0:22:26.320 half the ground around us. Cut the meat down. Then 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:28.959 we just grabbed the meat up by hand. I remember 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:30.960 looking down from my sandwich and it had been mashed, 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.440 and it was as mashed as the original bear ship 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:37.680 laying under that tree. My sandwich was destroyed. UM hacked 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.480 to meat down either tree. We just picked up bags 0:22:40.480 --> 0:22:46.080 of meat and then in defensive formation. It was impressive 0:22:46.720 --> 0:22:49.600 for guys carrying meat. Two guys with everybody with pepper spray, 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:54.040 two guys toting pistols. Do you carry the bone in 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:58.120 shoulder with a busted ankle down a hill and down 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:00.200 to steve Hill and up a steep ravine and a 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:04.320 river crossing until we had a big open area to 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:07.879 load up our packs. I was walking point with the 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:12.120 shoulder son. Now here's what Here's a little bit about 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:14.600 not now we're getting into conjecture. Here's a little bit 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:17.919 about what I think might have happened. Like if I 0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.920 had to go, if somehow this had all been captured 0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:26.399 on film by some secret camera we don't know about, um, 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:30.360 and I had to bet like what the footage would reveal, uh, 0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:33.439 And also if this footage was able to assess the 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:37.359 psychological state of the bear and evaluate his motivations. I 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:39.080 feel like this is what I kind of feel like 0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:45.320 this is what happened. I feel as though, um, somehow, 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:50.680 in the hours before our arrival, a bear had come 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:57.960 in and was like, uh wow, right, some a lot 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.440