1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: There's always a game played every year at this time, 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: a little earlier this year in fact, with coaches getting fired, 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: that means there's openings and people getting discussed. The coach 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: will always dismiss any rumor I have not talked to anybody. Well, 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: that's because they have a powerful agent like Jimmy Sexton 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: that does all the calling, and so that allows a 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: coach to say, I don't know what you're talking about. 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: I haven't talked to anybody. The question should be have 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: you or your agent discussed anything, because that's the game 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: that gets played. So last week, Diana Russini, the athletics 18 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: senior NFL insider who's joining US Live. First things first, 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: she'll be on it today. Sark dismissed the report, but 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I had said it about a month ago. I'm like, 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: if I was an NFL guy, Sark's got to be 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: top of my list on one of the guys he's 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: worked in the NFL. He's been great at college. What 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: did you make of him dismissing your report. 25 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: Against all the fun stuff? 26 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 4: First of all, congratulations on the induction in the Radio 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. Your voice has been a companion to 28 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: so many people, including myself during my lonely days when 29 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: I was living out in Portland and Seattle, and I 30 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: had a really low level job in sports, and I 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 4: didn't know what I wanted to do, but you were 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 4: my company, you were my friend. So this isn't just 33 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 4: a temporary thing, this is forever my friend. So congrats 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 4: to you. Quite the honor. So let's dive into this, right, So, yeah, 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: you're right. Jimmy Sexton puts out a statement pretty quickly 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 4: denying that Steve Sarkisian would have any interest in the NFL. Right, 37 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: And that's not what I reported. I reported that his 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: representatives told NFL decision makers, not just the Tennessee Titans, 39 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 4: just people in the NFL, that Steve Sarkisian would have 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: interest in a head coaching job if there were one 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 4: to open. Right, Because obviously Tennessee is the only one 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 4: that's available at this moment. But as we know, this 43 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: is all going to change over the next few weeks, 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 4: and as we get closer to the end of December, 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 4: there will be more opening. So look, the reason why 46 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: they came out strong against this is this is not 47 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: good for Steve sarkasion at Texas, right, He just signed 48 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 4: a new contract. He tells everybody he's happy, and I 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 4: believe he is happy, Like I think he likes being 50 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: the coach of Texas. 51 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: I don't have those doubts. 52 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 4: But he has the most powerful agent in college sports 53 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: for a reason. This is what Jimmy Sexton is paid 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: to do. It is to make sure that Steve Sarkashan 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 4: has all the options. We could probably have a long 56 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 4: conversation about whether or not we think the Texas job 57 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: is actually better than the Titans job, right, But most 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 4: guys that I talked to in football specifically will tell 59 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: you they will take the worst job in football in 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: the NFL over the best job in college So at 61 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: the end of the day, yes, Texas is one of 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: the great coaching places. 63 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: To be but a the NFL, right, Yeah, I mean, 64 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: you don't have to recruit deal with donors, you get 65 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: an occasional impulsive owner. Some aren't, some are. Diana Russini 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: joining us, all right, I want. 67 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: To ask you. 68 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: The Athletic has the article about AJ Brown and he 69 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm sympathetic to it. He's a bit of a loner. 70 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: He said he struggles making friends. And I said, you know, 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurtz is one of those guys. We're very unfair 72 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: about this. When a quarterback enters the NFL, we need 73 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: you to be forty three years old. At twenty three, 74 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: you've got to be a CEO, a psychologist. I mean, 75 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott walked into Dallas and it was like Dez Bryant, 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, the media, and he was great and very 77 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: few humans can do it. Jalen Hurts, I think has 78 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: that component to his personality. He's like the cooler. He 79 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: brings the temperature down in loud Philly. What is the 80 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: current relationship, Diana, with your reporting on the Hurtz aj 81 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: Brown relationship today. 82 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, on the field, it's not great, right because there's 83 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 4: obviously a not there's not a very good connection there. 84 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: Aj Brown has been very public on social media about 85 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 4: how he feels about it, and in that article with 86 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: The Athletic, he doesn't want to just be used using 87 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: his words right in the moments when when Philly needs 88 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 4: him to come through. He wants to be part of 89 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 4: this Philly offense throughout the game. And when you talk 90 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: to people around the league that have had to defend 91 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: the Eagles over the last few weeks, they say they 92 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 4: understand where AJ's coming from, right, but what's good for 93 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 4: the team. The offense that we saw run this past 94 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: week against the New York. 95 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: Giants is the offense the Eagles want to. 96 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 4: Be when Saquon Barkley gets going and there's a g 97 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: and they protect, well, that is where they're always going 98 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: to go. And AJ Brown knows that. Now, look, the 99 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 4: passing game opens up when Saquon can run. 100 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: Well. 101 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: Aja also knows that. But it is very apparent that 102 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: he's not happy there. He does not want to be 103 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 4: in Philadelphia. And I don't think he's trying to hide 104 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 4: it either. I don't think you have to be a 105 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: reporter to even understand it. I think what Nick Sirianni 106 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: is so good at managing, though, are these personalities. And 107 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 4: they spend a lot of time with Aj trying to 108 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: have these conversations of like, look, we're going to get 109 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 4: you the ball, We're going to sort this out. We've 110 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 4: got a first time offensive coordinator here, call in place. 111 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: We just need a little bit more time. The problem 112 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: is we've got the trade deadline coming up. Okay, teams 113 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 4: have called the Eagles about AJ Brown because they can 114 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 4: see it. 115 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: They know there's a problem. 116 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 4: Here, And for now, Philly's saying, unless this is a 117 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 4: gigantic offer, a blockbuster deal, we are sticking with AJ Brown. 118 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 4: They're on a bye week this week, and I actually 119 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 4: think this works in the favor of Philly. I think 120 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 4: this just lets everybody cool off and sort it out 121 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 4: and sort of to get realigned to what they want 122 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: to do coming out of the buy. So we'll see 123 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 4: how this goes. But there's still a few days before 124 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: the trade deadline. 125 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: You've been talking to Jerry and Stephen Jones in the 126 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: last week or two. Jerry made a comment that he 127 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: would make a move at the trade deadline, which I 128 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: think is terrifying because they've got two first round picks 129 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: and they don't need a quarterback. That is the catbird 130 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: seat in the NFL, Like the Rams, don't need one today, 131 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: but they probably need one because match thirty seven, DA's 132 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: got four to five more good years, two first round picks. 133 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: The next two years. They can move down, they can 134 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: get more picks. So when Jerry says, hey, I want 135 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: to make a deal maker, I'm like, no, no, no, no, 136 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: somebody step in front of Jerry. Don't do that. When 137 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: they say that, do you buy into it? Do you 138 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: think they'll make a move here in the next few days? 139 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: No, I don't. I don't. 140 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 4: I hear him, and I spent an hour talking with 141 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 4: him about what they're going to do, just trying to 142 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: pick his brain, like trying to kind of cut through all, 143 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 4: you know, all just the gibber that he gives us 144 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 4: a lot, and he has the picks. 145 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: He gets it. 146 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: He doesn't have any regrets from the Micah Parsons trade 147 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: because he got those picks. I think they're looking at 148 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 4: the landscape of the league right now and they want 149 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: to find some talent. 150 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: I just don't think there's a lot out there for him. 151 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: I think they want to take a swing for a 152 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 4: big player, but those players aren't available, and I think 153 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 4: that's the point. 154 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: They're right. He knows the defense needs help. 155 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: What they did against the Commanders was good because they 156 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 4: had good turnovers, but then what we saw last week, 157 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 4: they took a step back again. It is apparent that 158 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: that is the weakness of this Dallas Cowboys team. 159 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: So what does that mean? 160 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: With just being a few days out from this November 161 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 4: fourth trade deadline, they're making calls, but I don't think 162 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 4: there's a player out there that they think can fix it. 163 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: I don't think it's just one player and they know it. 164 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: So the trade deadline coming up, I think Buffalo could 165 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: use help. I think the Colts would look for a 166 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: pass rusher. Rams solved their corner issue. Let me throw 167 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: Detroit out Colts in Detroit, I keep hearing rumors. What 168 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: do you hear? 169 00:07:58,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: Those are good? 170 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not rumor pass rush for sure for Detroit. 171 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: The position that Indy needs is corner. Like they are 172 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: desperate and they are working the phones right now trying 173 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 4: to fill because they're dealing with tons of injuries. Lou 174 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 4: Ana Roumo has made some magic over the last few 175 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 4: weeks with that situation, and I think we could all 176 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 4: fairly say this is a team that's going to go 177 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 4: in the playoffs and if they can fix this one weakness. 178 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 4: They've got a really good shot. I don't find Detroit 179 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: to be as desperate. I think the way this roster's 180 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 4: constructure right now, they're really good shape. But they could 181 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 4: use that help too at corner and pass rush as well. 182 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: The Philadelphia Eagles, I mean, we know Howie Rosmon is 183 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: always working the phones. They need an edge rusher badly 184 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: and everybody knows it, and they're making calls everywhere. And 185 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: that's that's really the position Colin, that that teams are 186 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 4: desperate for. It's all pass rush. That is where if 187 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 4: you're a pass rusher right now, someone probably called for you, 188 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 4: even if you're not that good, because there's just such 189 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: a need. So I expect Philly to make them move here. 190 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: Miami has some players that are available that they could 191 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 4: be calling, and you're right, Buffalo is looking for wide receiver. 192 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: They're also looking for some help on the defensive. 193 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: Side of the ball. 194 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 4: They're looking at safety. So lots of needs for teams. 195 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 4: I just don't know if there's a lot available. 196 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think you know, fans have gotten smarter, 197 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: gms have gotten smarter. There's so much transparency the you know, 198 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: the Chargers have been patient and Joe Alt came back 199 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 1: and they're fine. I think Miles Garrett, I said yesterday, 200 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: I could see because I think Daniel Jones will sign 201 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: an extension. They got their coach, their quarterback, They've got weapons. 202 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 1: I could see, they got their own line. I could 203 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: see Chris badderd going, we'll give you two ones for 204 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. Would Cleveland consider Now? Cleveland's got two ones already, 205 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: how many do you need Miles Garrett? Any chance he 206 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: moves now. 207 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: They won't do it. 208 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 4: And look, every general manager ever had this conversation with 209 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: will always go well, unless it's like unbelievable, then you 210 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 4: got to take it right. So with that in mind, 211 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 4: if the way I'm translating, or at least at least 212 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 4: the way I'm hearing, Cleveland they don't want. 213 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: To move him. 214 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: They know they need him on this team. They don't 215 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 4: have much in Cleveland in terms of what to hang. 216 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: Their hat on. 217 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 4: They need to figure out the quarterback position. And if 218 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: they can figure that out and have Miles Garrett on 219 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 4: the other side of the ball, I think in their 220 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: mind they can construct something decent. Now teams are still calling, 221 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 4: but teams that I've spoken to over the last twenty 222 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: four hours will say that have reached out to Cleveland 223 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: have all been told the same thing. We're not moving him, 224 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: We're not dealing him. So I think the idea is there, 225 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: just the way it is with Max Crosby. I know 226 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 4: there was some chatter about the Dallas Cowboys perhaps being 227 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 4: interested in him. I think that's another organization that doesn't 228 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 4: want to let go of a player. 229 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: Of that talent. The Tennessee Titans. 230 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 4: Jeffrey Simmons another guy that I mean, if I'm Jerry Jones, 231 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 4: I'm beg. 232 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: The Titans for that. 233 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 4: It's less money than Micah Parsons, and he could be 234 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 4: a great. 235 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 3: Addition to that pass rush. 236 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 4: But Tennessee's another team they're not willing to move on them. 237 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: Great stuff, Diana Russini, First things first today, you know 238 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: this TV thing is pretty cushy. You may want to 239 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: consider it, You're not. Writing's hard. 240 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: Writing is hard, but I like it. But I don't know. 241 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 3: I do a little bit of everything these days, you know. 242 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to keep up with you. 243 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 6: Colin. 244 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: Great to see it. Congrats all right, Diana Russini, thank 245 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: you for the compliments for us and the staff cover 246 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: in the NFL for ten years. The Athletic Senior NFL Insider. Yeah, 247 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they're not many players I would give up. 248 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: I mean I would give up a couple of first 249 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: for a lot of quarterbacks. I mean, you think about that. 250 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: If tomorrow Patrick mahomes five first round picks. I didn't 251 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: feel enough. Miles Garrett, I would give up two first 252 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: round picks. I'm trying to think of the defensive players 253 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: now in the NFL. Miles Garrett, that's it. I think 254 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: Jared Verse, I'd give up maybe a first and a second. 255 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: I think he's unbelievable. You know, it's an offensive league, 256 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: but you you you know I've said before keep your 257 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: defense young, twitchy and deep, that you're gonna have to 258 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: pay eventually for the big dog up front, the Max Crosby, 259 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: the Trey Hendrickson. 260 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 261 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non am Pacific. 262 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: Hey Is, Covino and Rich from Fox Sports Radio Now. 263 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: In addition to hearing. 264 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 7: Us live weekdays from five to seven pm Eastern two 265 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 7: to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, We're excited to 266 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 7: announce a brand new YouTube channel for the show. 267 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: Yep, that's right. 268 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 7: You can now watch Covino and Rich live on YouTube 269 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 7: every day. 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Check us out on YouTube, subscribe, hit that 272 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 7: thumbs up icon and comment away. 273 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: Jmack with the news. 274 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 5: No, no, turn on the news. 275 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News. 276 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 6: All right, let's start with the Dallas Cowboys, Colin. 277 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 8: They've been an interesting story to see that Dak Prescott rejuvenated, 278 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 8: largely thanks to mister Pickens, but also Brian Schottenheimer said, 279 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 8: a good first year, I mean, surprising that hell out 280 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 8: of us. 281 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 6: They're three four and one. 282 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 8: But Schottenheimer got a little combative with the media, saying, 283 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 8: the only stat that matters is wins. 284 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 5: None of us have done good enough, you know, I 285 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 5: mean coaches, players, head coach, none of us have done 286 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 5: good enough. That's that's real. I mean, our scorecard is 287 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 5: what it is, you know, and that's not just you know, defensively, 288 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 5: that's offensively. You know, we're a football team that's three 289 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 5: four and one. You can take the stats on offense 290 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 5: and as far as I can concern. I mean, is 291 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 5: what it is we want to win? 292 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: You know, I don't. 293 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 6: Are we really bleeping out shove it up here? 294 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 5: You know what? 295 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: We can't say that on TV? Know what coach of 296 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: the year so far is probably Mike Rape Is that fair? 297 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: Shane Stikeen like a okay, Vrabel? I think Shanahan's been unbelievable. 298 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: Does Brian Schottenheimer get in the top three or four 299 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: all things considered? 300 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 6: No? 301 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 8: All right, Oh, how are you making a case for him? 302 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 6: They're three four and three, four and one. Don't forget 303 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 6: that tie against them with the. 304 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: Worst defense in the league. 305 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 8: Well, the two worst defenses in the league are the 306 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 8: Cowboys and you know whoever's playing the Cowboys? 307 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Because I would say, because I think Shane Steichen's got 308 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: a much better roster than now. 309 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 8: You say that, but you would not have said that 310 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 8: in Yeah, in August I said, I've. 311 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: Been saying it for two years that all they need 312 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: is a quarterback. I love their roster. I love the 313 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: Colts roster. 314 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 5: Last year. 315 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 8: You think the let's see here, I think they're running 316 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 8: to the Colts, right, yeah, wide receiver Cowboys by a mile. 317 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 6: Cowboys. 318 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: No, No, I'm forget I'm talking Colts and Brabel. I 319 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: would give Rabel number one. I think he's doing more 320 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: with less. I would give stik In two. Shannon. I 321 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: think Kyle Shanahan's done an unbelievable job backup quarterback. Five 322 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: of his top players, Bosha out Year, Warner Hurt, who 323 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: sung a green Law. I mean I I think it's 324 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: raybel Rable's doing more with less. Stichen has more that 325 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: they've got the best healthiest roster, and then Seattle's got 326 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: a good coach. Tampa's got a good coach. That are 327 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: exceeding expectations dramatically. I don't think Seattle is I had 328 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: him as. 329 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 6: A playoffs weren't they five and two? 330 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: Yeah? 331 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: I had him, and I had him winning ten or 332 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: eleven games. 333 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 5: That's right. 334 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 6: I forgot you. You're so precient with your August NFL picks. 335 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 6: Damn damn it. 336 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 8: All right, let's move on to the Baltimore Ravens. Oh 337 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 8: remember the story about the ping pong tables last week? 338 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 8: You went off on that. Yeah, so the Ravens removed 339 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 8: ping pong tables. Papa shot another thing. I could dominate 340 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 8: you in uh and video games all pulled from the 341 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 8: locker room. Well, Lamar told the media, guess what it 342 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 8: wasn't the team. I was the one who made that request. 343 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 9: Told him to take all the games and ping pong, 344 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 9: turn the TVs off, and we could have took the 345 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 9: team too, But I appreciate missus Steve for putting that 346 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 9: enough for us, you know. But yeah, we had to focus. 347 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 9: I always say people don't take the job series. Don't 348 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 9: get me wrong, but like, I didn't feel like it 349 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 9: was a time for that. 350 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 5: You know, we got a lot of we got a 351 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 5: lot of work to do. 352 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: Love that leadership capital l I love it. I love it. 353 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: So we got a lot of work to do. It's 354 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: not the time for ping pong table. 355 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 6: Okay, A quick counter and I'm not Lamar. Fans settled 356 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 6: down before you hear this. 357 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 8: So does this kind of reek of Lamar saying, hey man, 358 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 8: I come out and we all of a sudden stink. 359 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 8: You guys got to clean up your act. No TV 360 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 8: for you, no ping pong for you. Isn't that like 361 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 8: you're telling your kids, hey man, no dinner tonight. You 362 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 8: didn't perform well in school. 363 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't tell my kids that I'm sarring 364 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: my kids. No, it is what leadership isn't a popularity contest. 365 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: Leadership is anybody can be popular. That's not leadership. Leadership 366 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: is doing unpopular things that are necessary and saying guys 367 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: were no more ping pong tables, no more video games. 368 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: Love him, I mean I've always defended Lamar Jackson. I 369 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: love this about him. Grown up need grown ups, noo 370 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: locker room, not out there hanging around video games and 371 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: eating candy corn all. 372 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 8: But maybe because Lamar stinks at ping pong he had 373 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 8: the tables from I don't know. Final story colin over 374 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 8: to college football where Bill Belichick still on the struggle 375 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 8: bus this season North Carolina two and five. 376 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 6: They are jog water in the ACC. Here we go. 377 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 8: Belichick was just remember there was a report saying Belichick 378 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 8: was discussing buyout options. 379 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 6: He went off to the media. Take a listen to 380 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 6: this one. 381 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 10: It's already been taken down and everything else. But it's 382 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 10: just a total you know, as Trump would say, fake news. 383 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 10: I mean, it's just I don't know, it's just a novel. 384 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 10: There's plenty of that out there too, by the way, 385 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 10: but I'm not going to deal with that and I'm 386 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 10: sure's a lot of other people out there that want 387 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 10: to get you know, clicks and fews and you know, 388 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 10: posts on my face or whatever, but like it's just 389 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 10: a bunch of garbage. 390 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: Well, I would say a majority of stuff on my 391 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: face is garbage. But you know, if he was winning, 392 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: the jokes are funnier when you're winning. When you're losing, 393 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: it just sounds grumpy. When you're winning, it's funny. He 394 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: used to say that all the time, snapface and my Chat. 395 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: Remember you used to say that Newing. Everybody thought that 396 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: was funny. 397 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 6: It's a little old. Now. 398 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 8: Hey, I'm curious, where's Jordan Hudson been since that TV 399 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 8: show fell apart and they started losing. 400 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, seriously, I'm not seeing a lot of her anymore. 401 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 6: Does she not want to hang around losers? 402 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: No? I think she read the room and this is 403 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: not the time to be out there. 404 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 3: No. 405 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's the thing what we've learned. There's two 406 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: things we've learned about college football coaching since Nil arrived. 407 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: You can't load at Colorado LSU USC you're gonna have 408 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: all the money in the world. You can't have a roster. 409 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: And this is Carolina two of sixty percent transfers. It 410 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: ruins chemistry. You're gonna miss on too many guys. It's 411 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: going to create animosity in the room. And I think 412 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: one of the things with Belichick of the things that 413 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: haven't gone right, they spent a lot of money on 414 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: a lot of players and they didn't hit on them. 415 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: And I think I think the transfer portal two things 416 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: can be true. I like it, and it should be 417 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: used with discretion. And the number I always come back to. 418 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: I talked to a coach about this. He said, about 419 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: seven to eight guys a year. He goes, everybody needs 420 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: a corner. Every year he goes, it's a shortage of corners. 421 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: He goes, if you can find a receiver that blocks, 422 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: you know, an interior offensive lineman who's a smart guy. 423 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: Got one year. Lady goes, you know, kickers, there's things 424 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: that people can owe. Another good slot corner, you know 425 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: another you know, another receiver who can get physical downfield 426 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: and block another running back right like the third or 427 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: fourth running back. What happens with the transfer portal. North 428 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: Carolina tried to set their starting lineups with a transfer portal, like, hey, 429 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna go get starters I think the underrated part 430 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: of the transfer portal is not everybody's a star. You 431 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,239 Speaker 1: get guys that add depth. Now again, if you can 432 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: go get Caleb Downs, you're Ohio State by all means, 433 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: or a star quarterback Caleb Williams, then go get them. 434 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: But by and large, I think a lot of it 435 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: is just adding less expensive, less animosity, just adding depth 436 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: at key positions, offensive tackle, corner, wide receiver that blocks 437 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: a lot of them don't so. I think Indiana has 438 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: done it well. They've hit on the guys. They've brought 439 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: in Jmack with the news. 440 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that, the 441 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 2: herd line news. 442 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: You know what, it is interesting right now? The Packers 443 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: are as good as anybody in the NFL. Kansas City, 444 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: Green Bay very good. Toronto looks like they're going to 445 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: up end the Dodgers. You know, Indianapolis culture on fire. 446 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: The New York football teams are a mess. Chicago can't 447 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: get it right. Here's Kansas City once again getting it right. 448 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: It is remarkable to me that we worry so much 449 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: about the money and the market size. Best team in 450 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: the NBA, Oklahoma City, best team in the NFL, Kansas 451 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: City and Green Bay. Now Toronto's obviously in North America, 452 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: a very large city, but they're over and under was 453 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: in the mid seventy wins Dodgers like one five, one 454 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: oh six. So it's been a very good last several 455 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: years for underdogs. Underdogs and small markets are doing very 456 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: very well. Is it because I don't know. I don't 457 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: have a theory behind it, But there's so much money 458 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: in sports. Are medium and smaller markets more disciplined. It's 459 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: like the book The Millionaire next Door. How many school 460 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: teachers are millionaire because they're smarter with their money. They 461 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: don't have excess money. They pay their house off, they 462 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: pay their cars off. I feel like when you get 463 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: into these big cities you get often very wealthy owners. 464 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Not always bears owners aren't very wealthy, but you often 465 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: get more ego, richer owners. The media is harder, creating 466 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: more impulsive moves. They're more chaotic. I mean, Green Bay, 467 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: everybody's on board, Kansas City, everybody's on board. You can 468 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: hide a little bit in Denver, you can hide a 469 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: little bit in Baltimore. It just I mean, there was 470 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: a report last night that the clubhouse for the Blue Jays. 471 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: It was like spring training. There's no pressure. They've trailed 472 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: four times in the playoffs. There's no pressure for the 473 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: Blue Jays. There's enormous pressure. Oh, Tani Freeman bets Dodgers. 474 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: You wrap it up next to Herd. 475 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 476 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: in neonon Easter non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 477 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 478 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: You know, it's it is so funny, like sometimes you 479 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: just have to admit, like with Patrick Mahomes, you just 480 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: got to admit he's better than your quarterback. You didn't 481 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: have to be as big or as strong, but you know, 482 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: you can fight the current in life or like for 483 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: years and years and years, it's like, well, Brady's a 484 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: system quarterback, and I'm like, no, Brady is the system 485 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: and the quarterback, and Belichick can't win games when he leaves. 486 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is just different. And Greg co Sail I've 487 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: never heard him say this to He's been on with 488 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: me ten years, was talking earlier, gushing over the magic 489 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: of Patrick Mahomes. 490 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 11: He'll leave throws on the field and then he'll run 491 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 11: around and make a play and it's just those are 492 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 11: the kinds of things when you watch him, you go, 493 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 11: I wonder how they deal with that. Do they just 494 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 11: say great play, Patrick, or do they say, hey, we 495 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 11: had this play design and you didn't throw it, and 496 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 11: you know, next time throw it. I don't know how 497 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 11: they deal with that. But he just has an uncanny 498 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 11: ability that is arguably the best we've ever seen. 499 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got I always there's a spatial awareness that 500 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: Greg talked about that The first thing I noticed with 501 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: Mahomes the first thing that was really obvious, and it 502 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: was from a camera in the end zone. So I 503 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 1: this was years ago. It was like four or five, 504 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: six years ago. There was a camera in the end 505 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: zone and they showed a replay and I yeah, it 506 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: was like a Sunday night game and they showed Patrick 507 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: Mahomes throwing the ball and it was This has happened 508 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: to me so many times where I've just seen a 509 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: play and I'm like, oh, wow, wow, wow, wow wow, 510 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: that's different. And he saw the receiver and it wasn't 511 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: wide open right, and he had the ball out of 512 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: his hands in half a second. His ability to see 513 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: it and get the ball out accurately, so much of 514 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: this league is quarterbacks throwing it late. Either they don't 515 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: don't identify it, don't throw people open, or they just 516 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: take an extra beat. Mahomes, it's it's very Merino see it, 517 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: and it's not terribly open. See it ball out, So 518 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: that gives you the highest percentage chance to get a 519 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: completion that you get. You see it, I mean one 520 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: thought boom quarter second faster than the average quarterback. Now, 521 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: sometimes you're throwing guys open, the cornerback turns or you 522 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: know you you're kind of it's the estimate, the guestimate, 523 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: like you're not always throwing to an open guy. And 524 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: he had a couple of picks. Patrick will throw his picks. 525 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: It's the opposite with Caleb Williams, who on the interception 526 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: Greg Kosell talked about he was a little late on 527 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: that interception from his end zone. He was not only late, 528 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: he was two beats late. So Mahomes is never a 529 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: beat late. He's never been two beats late. But overall, 530 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: Greg said he was actually impressed with Caleb. 531 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 11: I look for playing with excellent timing and rhythm within 532 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 11: structure because that's really what the Ben Johnson offense is, 533 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 11: and Caleb at his core is not a true natural 534 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 11: timing anticipation player, so it's going to be baby steps. 535 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 11: And I think there were some signs of positive plays 536 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 11: this week, some snapshots where I said, as I was 537 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 11: watching the tape, that's pretty good. 538 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think the thing about Caleb, there are 539 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: three things that he's doing now. I like, very good 540 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: on the opening drive. Therefore, he's coachable, he's not stubborn. Secondly, 541 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: he's developed a real relationship with Romadunze, the young receiver 542 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: out of Washington. That's clear. The other thing, and you 543 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 1: see some of it here, is when he does run, 544 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: you know he's getting down. He's cut his sacks in half. 545 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: So like this play is a great example. That play, 546 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: there's not three guys in the league that can do that. Mahomes, 547 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: Josh Allen can do that. That may be the list. CJ. Stroud, 548 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if he can throw off his back 549 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: foot that play. Maybe he can't. But Caleb this year 550 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 1: has had the longest time to throw this season. Who's 551 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: got the quickest, Patrick Mahomes. And it's not like three 552 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: different seconds, it's like a second. So Mahomes, to my point, 553 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: is able to see something and the ball is out 554 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: of his hands immediately faster than anybody I've ever seen. 555 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: Caleb can see it, waits a beat, lets it go. 556 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: He's got the slowest time, and I'm not sure if 557 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: it's a second that separates him so much. It's probably 558 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: not half second. I mean that, I mean literally, it's 559 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: a half a second. Just think about the NFL. Patrick's 560 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: the fastest at like two and a half seconds. Caleb's 561 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: the slowest at three. That is the difference between interception 562 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: complete superstardom and met So when I hear about these 563 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: college guys, Oh, he's great from the pocket. How long 564 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: do you get a throat Alabama? Four beats? Yet two 565 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: in the NFL? How open are your guys at Alabama 566 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: or you know, Ohio State or Michigan, JJ McCarthy wide open? 567 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: Do you have a great run game? Are you playing 568 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: from behind? Are you playing with the lead? All that stuff? 569 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: In the NFL, you're plan from behind? Matt Stafford's playing 570 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: from behind? Was Sean McVay as a coach right the Ravens, 571 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: the Bills, I mean Philadelphia? Your plan from behind? Your 572 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: run game doesn't work. Everything at these major programs is 573 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: comfort an extra beat or two receivers more wide open. 574 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: He's a five star receiver. I mean, if it was 575 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: just as easy as finding a five star high school kid, 576 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: he goes to Ohio State or LSU, and then he 577 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: goes to the NFL. Think about all the quarterbacks. Think 578 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: about the legends in recent years, Philip Rivers, NC State, 579 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: Eli Manning, Ole miss Aaron Rodgers, Cow, Matt Ryan BC 580 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: Big Ben Miami of Ohio. I mean, it's a lot 581 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: of these guys. Patrick Mahome, Texas Tech, Josh Allen Wyoming. 582 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: It is almost as a rule, the guys in comfort 583 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: programs struggle. The guys that get an extra beat and 584 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: have five star receivers that are more wide open, as 585 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: a rule, they struggle more. And on. Caleb Williams at 586 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: USC did not have a great old line, but he 587 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: had a great play call and very very good receivers 588 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: Jordan Addison for a year. USC has always got good receivers. 589 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: They got a couple more this year. So yeah, the 590 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: difference between Mahomes and Caleb this year, Patrick, let's go 591 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: with the ball at two point six seconds fastest in 592 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: the league. Caleb, let's go at three point one slowest. 593 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, just the league is crazy. It's absolutely crazy. 594 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: We can throw up the schedule one more time. I 595 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: do like the Bears this weekend. I think they're going 596 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: to beat I think this is a good spot. I 597 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: said last weekend I thought was a terrible spot for Chicago. 598 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: Lamar was going to be back Baltimore at home against 599 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: NFC teams. Baltimore has to win bad spot for the Bears. 600 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: The Bears are in a different spot here. Cincinnati is 601 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: a bad defense. The last time Chicago played a defense 602 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: that wasn't good at was Dallas and they moved the 603 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: chains so longer drives. The Bears defense, which is playmaking 604 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: but not really that good. We'll have longer periods on 605 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: the sidelines. You're going to find a Bear team that's 606 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: going to extend drives. The defense will be on the 607 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: field less. Chicago at Cincinnati is a very very good 608 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: matchup for the Bears. Baltimore was a even with Tyler 609 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: Huntley was a terrible matchup for the Bears. 610 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 8: By the way, update, Joe Flacco's scene at practice today. 611 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 6: We don't know how much he's participating. 612 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 8: We'll get that officially soon, but Jake Browning would be 613 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 8: an auto play on the Bears, right, I mean Jake 614 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 8: Brownie can't. 615 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 6: He couldn't do anything at quarterback. And I think you're right. 616 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 8: The Swift ground game and the other kid, Kyle's last 617 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 8: thing starts with the nam mahogany whatever it is. 618 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 6: He's pretty good. I got him on my fantasy team. 619 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 6: You just ground and pound priests. 620 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 8: Hall went nuts against the Bengals and the Jets don't 621 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 8: even have a good run game, so I think Ben 622 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 8: Johnson opens things up. 623 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 6: I like the Bears. 624 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: Almost all young quarterbacks need a run game. I mean 625 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: that's why Sean Payton people say why is he getting 626 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: a running back in the second round? And JK Dobbins. 627 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: Almost all young quarterbacks need a run game. DeAndre Swift 628 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: couldn't run it. They couldn't muster a run game against Baltimore, 629 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: struggled against Dallas, he could so Veteran quarterbacks can largely 630 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: live without a great run game all the time. I mean, 631 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's gonna win double digits with or without a 632 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: great run game. He has for years and years. Once 633 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: Zeke was out of his prime. Guys like Dak, Guys 634 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: like Mahomes, Guys like they can win games without a 635 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: great run game. The guys that just I mean it 636 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: was last year. Was it Joe Mixon or somebody got 637 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: hurt for the Texans. They didn't have a ground game 638 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: and c J. Stroud regressed badly. So I think once 639 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: you get into your third and fourth and fifth year, 640 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: you're not as beholden to having a great run game. 641 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: But Denver is a great example. They went and got JK. 642 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: Dobbins and Harvey and that is what bo Nicks needs. 643 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: You can live without it. Caleb's still in the space 644 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: in his career a run game is it feels like 645 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: it's a must have. 646 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 8: A Couple things to watch, Colin. This is one of 647 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 8: the final weeks before the trade deadline. Any team that 648 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 8: you see gets blasted and looks like they're gonna pack 649 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 8: it in. Keep an eye on them making some moves. 650 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 8: If the Dolphins get work tonight, I think they trade 651 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 8: two or three guys. Jayleen Waddle, Oh, now that would 652 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 8: be a big move. He would help a contender for sure, 653 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 8: for sure. First things first, Romcorn