1 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Zam this morning. 2 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: I'm Kindannie Stephens, you and fourth. We're on OTA number 3 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: eight today, which means things will wrap up on Thursday. 4 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: We're gonna start off with our big things. Brian Sexton 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: and John Osier are with me. The thing Number one 6 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: is o TA takeaways because we're closely, rapidly approaching the 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 2: final days of OTAs. John, I know OTA's are definitely 8 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: your favorite time of the year, but there is something 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: to be taken out of this, obviously, to see everybody 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: here working together, kind of getting on the same page 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: in the sense that things did not end the way 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: they wanted to last year and they. 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: Needed to turn the page. And this starts with OTAs. 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you asked me at the top, what she's 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 3: got to take out. 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 4: Of it, I'm not sure because they were wearing baseball caps. 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 4: But on the front that you're talking about, Kyle, there 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: is going to be taken away. 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: They're all here. There seems to be a good attitude, 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: a good approach. 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 4: Doug Peterson was good when he talked on Monday about 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: talking about some young guys that he sees that have 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: that look. Brian of guys who are coming along who 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 4: are ready to make a second year jump. To me, 25 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 4: at OTAs, you're looking for a vibe around the team. 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 4: I can't tell if Parker Washington's improved when he's wearing 27 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 4: a cap, sure, but I do feel like they're on 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 4: the same page. They're enthusiastic, they're ready to be here, 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: and things are as good as they can be going 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 4: into the fall. 31 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 5: And I'll take it from a different perspective. We had 32 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 5: heard from Trent Bulk that they wanted to be bigger, 33 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 5: they wanted to be stronger, more physical. Three words that 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 5: stand out from these OTAs and probably will take forward 35 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 5: into Mini camp next week size, speed, communication. The communication 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 5: part in particular, Kai has stood out to me a 37 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 5: because Doug Peterson stressed it in his different news conferences 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 5: and we've heard different players talk about it, but also 39 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: because they haven't been where helmets and they've been out 40 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 5: on the field talking and you can hear them both 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: lined up at the line of scrimmage and on the 42 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 5: sidelines when other guys are in there talking, talking, talking, 43 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 5: So those. 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 6: Three words stand out to me. 45 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 5: And communication probably the most meaningful because we don't see 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 5: the size and speed and can't really balance that until 47 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 5: you get to trading camp. 48 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 2: Our second big thing today is going to be that 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: veteran presence we've seen out there. There's been some good 50 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: attendance so far we've seen and Brian, I think it 51 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: bears to mention we've seen a lot of that veteran 52 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: leaders on this team. They're here and that this is 53 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: the time of year where you can really work with 54 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 2: either newcomers to the team or rookies and just trying 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 2: to get everybody you know moving in the same direction. 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: There's you know, you really can't miss out on that. 57 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 2: When you have all these people in the house, you're 58 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 2: able to work on that together well. 59 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 5: And listen, other than Joshua we know works out in 60 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 5: the offseason in Arizona. I think everyone has been here 61 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 5: and that's great in terms of getting set up for 62 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 5: camp and making the most of the time. There are situations, 63 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 5: I think Lamar Jackson's not working out in Baltimore. When 64 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 5: you don't have your quarterback there, what are you really 65 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 5: getting done? And so for the Jaguars to have everybody here, 66 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 5: they're maximizing their time and it works to the veteran players, 67 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 5: John because the coach is probably gonna take it easy 68 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 5: on the next week in mini camp since they've had 69 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 5: such great participation throughout the offseason. 70 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna exaggerate this a little bit, as I 71 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 4: want to do, but the veteran presence is sixteen being 72 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 4: here because the quarterback has to be here. In my opinion, 73 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: I don't know why Lamar Jackson is in there. I'm 74 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: not sure what's going on, but a quarterback, everything else 75 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: depends on him, so he needs to be there. 76 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 3: He's looked good. 77 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: I think that's really a huge takeaway from this is 78 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: all his teammates are talking about how good he looks, 79 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: how in command. 80 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: All that stuff. 81 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 4: To me, if Trevor's here, anybody else who's been here 82 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: before can work out where they want. 83 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: Trevor's here and he's focused as well. We heard from 84 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: him for the first time yesterday, spoke to the media 85 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: and he did weigh in on his contract talks. That's 86 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: our final big thing this morning. Obviously, until that gets done, 87 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: we're always going to be talking about that. Trevor said, 88 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: he lets other people handle it, but he is hoping 89 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: that it will get done soon. 90 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 7: That would be ideal, you know, just to put it 91 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 7: behind us and keep moving and feel good about that 92 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 7: going into training camp. But either way, like I've said before, 93 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,839 Speaker 7: I have the same job, so you know, I can't 94 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 7: always control all those factors, but I have the same 95 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 7: job it do either way. But yeah, I mean I would, 96 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 7: of course, that'd be ideals to get it done, you know, 97 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 7: as soon as you can and kind. 98 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 8: Of move forward. 99 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: John, It's not if, but when At this point, it 100 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: seems like everybody's kind of hoping it gets done in 101 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks before training camp kicks off. 102 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 103 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 4: Listening to him, I'm thinking, if I had over one 104 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: hundred million guaranteed coming my way, I want to get 105 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 4: it done soon absolutely, and or whenever. Really, I mean, 106 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: it'd be fine. I would take it whenever. Look, I 107 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 4: don't expect this to go into training camp. I expected 108 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: to get done before that. If it happens to go 109 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: into training camp, it feels like such a given is 110 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 4: gonna get done at some point. I would expect it 111 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 4: to be a story day one of camp and then 112 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: to sort of go away until it gets done. I 113 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 4: just don't see as being a distraction, probably, Brian, because 114 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 4: I feel like it's gonna get done. I feel like 115 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: it's gonna be mind blowing and. 116 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: He'll be happy. It'll be locked up and they can 117 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: move forward. 118 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: So it just feels to me like this is a 119 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 5: Tuesday press conference the week of training camp that they'll 120 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 5: get there. And I don't have any information that says 121 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 5: that it's done and that it will We've been hearing 122 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 5: that they've been working steadily towards it, So really I 123 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 5: just get this sense that it's Hey, training camp opens 124 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 5: this week. 125 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 6: By the way, the quarterback is done. 126 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 5: Because everybody sees what's going to happen, might as well 127 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 5: clear the decks on that one real quick. I don't 128 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 5: know whether you've noticed this, either one of you, And 129 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 5: it's not that he's jacked, but Trevor. 130 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 6: Looks bigger to me. 131 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 5: I mean, he looks as if he has spent the 132 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 5: off season getting bigger. 133 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 6: Not that he was ever small, but he looks solid. 134 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: We'll talk about that coming up after the break as 135 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: we hear from QB one. He spoke to the media 136 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: yesterday all that after the break here on jags am 137 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 2: move the freight moved the freight Magellan Transportation. But it's 138 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: the coolest voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. You 139 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: can apply on line at www dot Magellan Logistics dot com. 140 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back to jacks I'm here in the Hyundai studios. 141 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: We're getting ready to wrap up OTAs. So we got 142 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: to hear from Trevor Lawrence. Doug Peterson, also speaking to 143 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: us yesterday, alluded to the fact that those veterans are 144 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: probably not gonna be here next week. The last couple 145 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: of seasons, he's excused the veterans that attend to OTAs 146 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: and made mandatory mini camp just mostly for rookies and 147 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 2: newer players or people working back from injuries. So we 148 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: got to hear from QB one for the first time 149 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: kind of during this OTA period, and he weighed in 150 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 2: a little bit about, you know, a couple different topics, 151 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: but he started off with what the team was able 152 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: to do in the off season and those additions to 153 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 2: the team, and also what OTA's have been like so far. 154 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 8: Definitely a step up of the past couple of years. 155 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 7: I know that was the point of emphasis for us, 156 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 7: is to really take advantage of this time that we 157 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 7: get because come training camp, you know, you want to 158 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 7: feel like you're on your way to being a well 159 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 7: oiled machine. Obviously you have work to do, but you 160 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 7: want to use this time maximize it. So when you 161 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 7: get a training camp, you feel like you're a step 162 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 7: ahead of you know, where we were last year, even 163 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 7: just other teams around the league. You know, you want 164 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 7: to try to get every advantage you can, and I 165 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 7: think taking advantage of these practices is important. 166 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: It's a little bit of like this is the next 167 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: step of business. It's kind of an understanding this is 168 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: where we need to be here, and this is an 169 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: important stage in terms of getting to where we want 170 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: to go with our goals. 171 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 5: Well, I think when he talks about the off season 172 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 5: and what they got done, you know he has to 173 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 5: look at those guys inside as or Cleveland and Mitch 174 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 5: Morse and know that the ability to run the ball 175 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 5: makes his job so much more, so much exponential easier. 176 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: And that's not exaggeration. He will be a much better 177 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 5: version of himself if they can convert on third down 178 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 5: and three yards or less, which they couldn't do last year, 179 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 5: and then well, then they can do this, They can 180 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 5: send the ball down the field to all the different weapons. 181 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 6: That are out there. 182 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 5: If I'm him, they get the contract deal done, it 183 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 5: might have been the perfect offseason. 184 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: He sounds to me like a guy who's practicing rather 185 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 4: than learning, which is what he's supposed to be doing 186 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 4: right now. He's in his third year in this offense. 187 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: He's from what the coaches have talked about. He's doing 188 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 4: what you would expect, which is being vocal, helping others. 189 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 4: He should be able to see when Brenton Strange doesn't 190 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: do something right, because he's in his second year, he 191 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: should be able to say, hey, run over there. 192 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 3: You know, and know what he needs. 193 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: Know what he's going to need in week six, Hey, Brenton, 194 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 4: if you do that on that play, I'm not taking 195 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: on brent Strange, but if you do that on that play, 196 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: what's going to happen? So I need you to be 197 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: two steps out, you know. And he sounds to me 198 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 4: like that guy. He's walking with that kind of confidence. 199 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: He's playing with that kind of speed and confidence in 200 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 4: these baseball back yeah, baseball cap practices. That's what you're 201 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: looking for in year four, but particularly year three in 202 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: an offense. 203 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: Doug Peterson talked to us about it as well, of 204 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: kind of having that extra coach on the field. That's 205 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: what you want your quarterback to be ideally, and we're 206 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: seeing that a little bit more with Trevor taking ownership. 207 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: He's entering his fourth season. 208 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: He said he's putting the onus on himself to be 209 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: a little more vocal and use that leadership style to 210 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 2: help the rest of the team. 211 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 7: Another year in the system. Just owning it more and 212 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 7: more every year, and I feel like this year especially, 213 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 7: I've been able to express more of things that I like, 214 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 7: I want to do more of maybe things I don't 215 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 7: like or whatever it is, and been able to communicate 216 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 7: a lot with the coaches, which has been great. So 217 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 7: I think just owning the offense more and more every 218 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 7: year is the key, and it's going to help me 219 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 7: get better and have a really good grasp of what 220 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 7: we're doing, trying to do the things that we need 221 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 7: to improve on. I feel like I'm really in sync 222 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 7: with the staff and kind of what the goals are. 223 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: John, You've covered different quarterbacks. Everybody has their own style. 224 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: Trevor's always going to be a bit of a laid 225 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: back guy, but he can still be a leader in 226 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: his own way and take control of this offense. 227 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Trevor's way of leading is I don't 228 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 4: think he's ever going to be vocal guy. I think, meaning, 229 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 4: I don't think you're going to see him on the sidelines, 230 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: you know, grabbing people. But I do think he can 231 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 4: show leadership by the way most quarterbacks can best show it, 232 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 4: which is being in the building first, knowing more about 233 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: what's going on than anybody else, so that when you speak, 234 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 4: you speak from a place of authority. You don't want 235 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 4: three guys on offense knowing the offense better than Trevor, 236 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: because then when he says something, they're like, well, I'm 237 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 4: not better than this guy. 238 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: So I think he's getting there with that. 239 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 4: Everything I hear from the billing is that his approach 240 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: is getting better and better and better. But you would 241 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 4: expect you coming as a kid, you don't know how 242 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 4: to work to get to that next level. 243 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: It's a learned skill. 244 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 4: Everything I've heard is that he's learning that skill and 245 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 4: operating in a much higher level on that front than 246 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 4: he has. 247 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 5: First in last out work on Tuesdays like the great 248 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 5: quarterbacks do. If he does that, then that's the greatest 249 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 5: form of leadership that he needs to to give it. 250 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 6: As an example, we. 251 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: Talked off the top about the importance of you know, 252 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: having the number one quarterback in the building, and obviously 253 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: he's been here all this week earlier as well in 254 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: off season workouts working with this team. He talked a 255 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 2: little bit about working with the rookie and what he's 256 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 2: seen from Brian Thomas Junior so far. 257 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 7: I really like him obviously, just talented, can fly, It's 258 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 7: really smart. I think that's the one thing I'm most 259 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 7: impressed with this. He's picking up the offense super fast. 260 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 7: He's a quiet guy, so we're still you know, getting 261 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 7: him to ask questions and stuff, but you know, he 262 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 7: doesn't ask any questions. 263 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 8: He always knows what to do. So I've been impressed. 264 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 7: That's tough for I was there obviously at one point 265 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 7: and I was swimming a little bit, and to see 266 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 7: him come out here and pick everything up and really 267 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 7: not skip a beat has been impressive. And then the 268 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 7: more comfortable he gets in the system and knows what 269 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 7: to do, He's just going to get better and better. 270 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 7: But you know, I think our chemistry is growing every day. 271 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 7: I'm starting to get a feel for how he likes 272 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 7: to run routes. I'm starting to you know, communicate more 273 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 7: on how I want things to look and the thoughts 274 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 7: that I have based on certain coverages or techniques on 275 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 7: the defense. You know, I think he's doing a good 276 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 7: job of just soaking everything up. And that's what this 277 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 7: time is about. 278 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: Everyone is very complimentary of the rookie there, Brian. At 279 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: this point, it's really just time on task, right. You 280 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: just got to know and learn what each other likes 281 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 2: to do and what. 282 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: You do best. 283 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 5: Well, you covered basketball, You covered the Celtics for a 284 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 5: couple of years, so I'll use basketball terminology because I 285 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 5: think that the passing game in pro football is like basketball. 286 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 6: It's about spacing right, and a guy. 287 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 5: Like Brian Thomas, with his size and speed, if a 288 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 5: safety has to hesitate just that much right, Brian Thomas 289 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 5: is buy him. If the running game pulls the safety up, 290 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 5: Brian Thomas is gone. 291 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 6: So think about the flip side of that. 292 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 5: Brian Thomas, playing at a high level, moves the defense 293 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 5: back off the line of scrimmage a little bit and 294 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 5: there's some room now with blocking schemes to get the 295 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 5: running game going. A guy like that is a chess 296 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 5: piece because he spaces your field out for you can't 297 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 5: wait to see what he does. 298 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't. 299 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 4: I'm saying they never used the deep ball in the 300 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: last couple of years, but they manufactured the deep ball 301 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: more than they actually had had somebody who could strain 302 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 4: the defense naturally. With Gabe Davis and Brian Thomas, they 303 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 4: have two guys who can push the defense back. They 304 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: may not have to always go thirteen plays, and it 305 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 4: didn't always get their team plays before, but they should 306 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: have more drives where they have impact plays. 307 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: And to me, everybody's gonna at Brian Thomas, what are 308 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: the numbers? What are the numbers? 309 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 6: What are the numbers? 310 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: If he strains the defense in the way Brian Sexton 311 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 4: talked about, then I think he's a success this season 312 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: and the numbers will come at some point. 313 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 6: I think it's a great point. 314 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 5: I think when you see it all thanks, when you've 315 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 5: seen last year, what did we talk about how the 316 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 5: offense just looked out of rhythm. It wasn't that they 317 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: never got into gear. A guy like Brian Thomas can 318 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 5: put them into that gear, but it might not always 319 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 5: show in his stats. You might see it in Tank 320 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 5: Bigsby and Travis Etn and Breton Strange. 321 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 6: And a lot of different places. But a guy like 322 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 6: that's a. 323 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: Difference maker, opening it up for some other people on 324 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: the field. Complimentary football. 325 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: We love that. Stay with's here on Jagsam. 326 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, We're gonna do some ozone 327 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 2: mail bag questions. 328 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: Get you all the answers. 329 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: Daguars fans gear up at fanatics dot com with all 330 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: the latest Jag styles. 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John Ozers shares his wisdom 334 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: with us or little bits and pieces. 335 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: You know you're not gonna share everything. 336 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: My wisdom is to be shared, Kat, I'm a giving person. 337 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate you for that. 338 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: Our first question Levi from Huntsville, Alabama. 339 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 6: He says, do you. 340 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: Get a feeling either way on if the Jags will 341 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: resign Travis etn. 342 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: I feel like he has. 343 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: A major has been a major contributor, but with running 344 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: back being a devalued position, I worry he'll. 345 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: Be let go. 346 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: Well, these are tricky spots. 347 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 4: I think they will do what they can to retain 348 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 4: Travis for the time that's projected for running back to 349 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: be productive. 350 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I really like Travis. 351 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: I wish for his sake that he played offensive tackle, 352 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: because then at age whatever it's going to be a 353 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 4: long term contract is very likely. 354 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: Travis knows. I've talked to him about it before. I 355 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: think in the Ozone. 356 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: Podcast last year that the lifespan of a running back 357 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: is different. He's trying not to worry about that end 358 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 4: of it, was my interpretation. I would expect he's They've 359 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 4: got him under contract for two more years and then 360 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 4: the franchise tag is an option after that if he's 361 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 4: still playing at a high level, which I think he 362 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 4: will be. Realistically, that's how you have to sort of 363 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 4: monitor the running back situation. It's just hard to give 364 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 4: a twenty six year old running back a five year 365 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 4: contract because then you're paying him at thirty when you 366 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 4: think that he's not going to. 367 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: Be as productive. 368 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 4: So I think they will do everything they can to 369 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 4: be fair to Travis etn and to make that situation 370 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: work because they value him. But the running back position, 371 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: out of all the positions, is the one that you 372 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 4: have to be the most careful. 373 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 5: Was Ezekiel Elliott the last big running back contract, and 374 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 5: you saw how that one worked, right, Yeah? 375 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 6: Right? 376 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 5: I mean last year he played in New England, and 377 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 5: I guess he's back in Dallas on a minimum deal. 378 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 5: Running backs, as John said, just they don't get paid. 379 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 5: Derrick Henry got paid, but he didn't get to the 380 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 5: final year of the deal, did he because they had 381 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 5: to let him go and they didn't want to let 382 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 5: a guy like that go. He's so important to their franchise, 383 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 5: the whole running back thing. I would just guess that 384 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 5: he'll be here the next. 385 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 4: Two years, yeah, and maybe one more with the tag. 386 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 6: And you know, well that would include the tag, right 387 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 6: because this is no. 388 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 3: He's got one more a fifth year o question. So yeah, I. 389 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 6: Who knows. 390 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just tough for that position to have it 391 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 4: seem fair compared to other positions. And that's the play 392 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 4: of the running back right now. 393 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 6: It's passing league, it is. 394 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: And if he can adapt to that game a little 395 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: bit like Christian McCaffrey, if he can become more you know, 396 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 2: also a pass catcher, that can help as well. So 397 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: we'll see if that's mccaf travis certainly able to do that. 398 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 6: You mentioned McCaffrey. 399 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 5: Great, he got a big deal from but he'd scored 400 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 5: twenty four touchdowns. 401 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 6: Sure, So it's a different sort of thing. 402 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 2: We'll see how they utilize him in the offense. I 403 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: think Travis is more than capable of being a part 404 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 2: of the passing game too. So our second question for 405 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: John today is going to come from Marty and Jacksonville. 406 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: He said, John, you said the Jaguars would like to 407 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 2: front load Trevor's contract as much as possible. 408 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: But why would they need to do that. 409 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: Unused cap space can be carried over, so frontloading and 410 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: cap number in his contract has no particular effect. 411 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 412 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 4: Look, I try to answer these questions as best conceptual 413 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 4: as I can, because I don't know the exact details 414 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 4: of why you would structure everything every year, because the 415 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: Jaguars are also trying to get things done within the 416 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 4: cap to look at their long term as well, which 417 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 4: we're not really privy to. The reason you try to 418 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 4: front load is it keeps things in what I kind 419 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 4: of call real time, and it keeps you from pushing 420 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 4: numbers out that force moves you don't want to make 421 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 4: later in the contract. 422 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 3: Do they have to do that? No, because you. 423 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 4: Can juggle the salary cap and realistically that's what starts 424 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 4: happening with all these big contracts, with all these big 425 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 4: quarterback contracts. Teams frontload deals if they can because it's 426 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 4: just the best way to do it and sort of 427 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 4: stay over your feet with the contract. 428 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 5: Longtime Jaguars observers will remember back in the day, and 429 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 5: it's been more than twenty years, when this team was 430 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 5: doing nothingishing the money forward right the ideal scenario, and 431 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 5: that's what what Trent Balky did the first couple of 432 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 5: years he was here, was to pay as you go 433 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 5: and never front load or backload, but just put as 434 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 5: much money in the cap in a given year as 435 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 5: you possibly can. 436 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 6: I think that's the best scenario. But John just said it. 437 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 6: It's about balance. 438 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 5: It's about being able to as young talented players come up, 439 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: because in a couple of years, if you want to 440 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 5: pay Trayvon Walker, you don't want to be overloaded by 441 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 5: pushing money out. So if you can pay as you go, 442 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 5: I think that's the best approach. 443 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: But the reader also made a good point in this 444 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 4: day and age, because you can roll cap and because 445 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 4: there's too much restructuring. When we talk about the cap 446 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: this year, in February and March of the next year, 447 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 4: Tim Watson Waukee go into their lab and it comes 448 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 4: out of completely different caps. So you know, idealy like 449 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: did I have to do that? But that's what all 450 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 4: seasons are now. 451 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 6: And with quarterbacks, they drive your cap. 452 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 5: Everything you do with your quarterback is driven to make 453 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 5: your cap work. 454 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: They sure do. 455 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 2: Let's check our final question from those one mail that 456 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: bag today. It's Scott from Jacksonville. He says, getting rid 457 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: of OTA's and extending training camp is a change that 458 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: you don't want to see. John, He said, less ota 459 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: more training camp sounds more like a return to the 460 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: good old days than an annoying change. He says, I'm 461 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 2: surprised you aren't all on board for that one. 462 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 4: Well, that's so Scott evidently is a young man, because 463 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: I'm fifty seven, and everybody knows that once you're fifty five, 464 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: change of any sort. 465 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 6: Of evil we don't like it. 466 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 3: So that's the first answer. 467 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 4: But look, OTAs to me are very close to worthless 468 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 4: in terms of my job. They're not necessarily worthless in 469 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 4: terms of the coach's job. My guess with this is 470 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 4: if they do move OTA's, and what they're talking about 471 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 4: here is OTA's are currently right now. Essentially they're talking 472 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 4: about eliminating OTAs and extending training camp to start. 473 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 3: In early July. 474 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 4: My thought, Brian, is if that happens, what will really 475 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 4: happen is the OTA concept of this light work, this 476 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 4: ramp up work will be lifted up and put down 477 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 4: on July fourth, and you'll have three weeks of OTAs 478 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 4: leading into training camp. I guess in my opinion, old man, 479 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: no kids, you know, I live two miles from the stadium. 480 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 4: I can come over here whenever, so right, But I 481 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 4: know where you're going with it. Well, it completely disrupts 482 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 4: what has been the football schedule for thirty years. 483 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: Well that's the human side of it. Let me give 484 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 5: you that, and then I'll give you the football side 485 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: of it. These coaches, when they hit training camp, they're 486 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 5: rarely home. Okay, they have to have very strong wives 487 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 5: who can manage everything. They get to the off season. 488 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 5: There's a little bit more time for these guys to 489 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 5: be normal. But their time is from the end of 490 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 5: mini camp until the start of training camp. Their kids 491 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,479 Speaker 5: are out of school, and that's when they can go 492 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 5: on vacation. That's when they can reconnect with their their 493 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 5: immediate family and their extended family. And you know, because 494 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 5: you've been around it, it's a really important time in 495 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 5: the off season for these guys so that when they 496 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 5: get back for camp they're fresh. That'll go away. And 497 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 5: a lot of these guys have young kids. They can't 498 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 5: go in May. You can't just slide their calendar up 499 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 5: because their kids aren't all homeschooled. 500 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 6: So you're taking a. 501 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 5: Big chunk of the human side of it and you're 502 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 5: just discarding it for cash. 503 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 6: Right. 504 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 5: It's not the only situation that happens in this world. 505 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 5: But that's what I don't like about it. 506 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 8: Now. 507 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 5: I did have somebody just this morning, a football observer, 508 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 5: share with me. Here's the downside to this. Phase one 509 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 5: and phase two of the OTA program are generally seen 510 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 5: as these guys getting into football shape and then OTAs 511 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 5: and mini camp they're ready to go out on the 512 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 5: field and perform. So now you're talking about doing away 513 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 5: with phase one in phase two and OTAs become the 514 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 5: time when you get into shape. So what's the real 515 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 5: value of OTAs then, because you're not doing as much 516 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 5: because they're not in football shape. They got to go 517 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 5: run around without a football for two weeks and all 518 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 5: the different phases, so it doesn't make a whole lot 519 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 5: of sense, except that the owners may get their eighteenth game, 520 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 5: which will be more revenue for them, and the players 521 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 5: may get rid of part of the offseason. 522 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 6: But it's the coaches and the football staff, the. 523 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 5: Training staff, the equipment staff, all those guys that get 524 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 5: screwed in this deal. 525 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 6: I think it's I hate it. 526 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: Well, the other side of that is there's also football people, 527 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: meaning trainers, who believe that this may help with soft 528 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 4: tissue injuries in terms of it's way too long to 529 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 4: get into in this segment, but you sort of you 530 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 4: get your body ready to ur an OTAs, then you 531 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: take a month and a half off, and then you 532 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 4: come back and you're ramping back up. 533 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 6: Most of these guys don't take the whole month and 534 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 6: a half and not do anything. 535 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but. 536 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 4: It's hard to stay in peak shape the way the 537 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 4: trainers like them. So there is some thought that it 538 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 4: might reduce soft tissue injuries. That's the other side of it. 539 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 4: I'm with Brian, I like it, but that's the other 540 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 4: side of it. In the conversation, curious to. 541 00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: See the link that we already talked about how long 542 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: the NFL season is, right, if you're adding an extra 543 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: game and you're starting training camp in July, they're gonna 544 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: be July till. 545 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: You know, late January. If you're making the playoffs, maybe February. 546 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: You're going with one week off in that whole time period. 547 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 4: From the player's point of view, From the player association view, 548 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 4: I think they're getting this April June back in exchange 549 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 4: for that, so they think. 550 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: There's more real time off for the players. 551 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 4: Again, that's the other side of the thought that I'm 552 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: with you guys on it. 553 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye on and see how things end 554 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: up with that. I'm sure more to come. We'll find 555 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 2: out more about it as this comes together. Say with's 556 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: here on jagsaon we'll talk a little bit about the 557 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: end of OTAs after the. 558 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 7: Break well, especially the way our season ended. 559 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 8: I mean, that's a little bit of a chip to 560 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 8: your shoulder. 561 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,719 Speaker 7: And I mean for us though it's the same, it 562 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 7: has to be the same goal though every week is 563 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 7: just to get that much better in to put ourselves 564 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 7: in a position to be playing menful games in December 565 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 7: January and make a. 566 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 8: Push at the end of the year and just get 567 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 8: better every week. 568 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 7: I think that's something where you look back last year 569 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 7: it's almost we peaked a little too soon and we 570 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 7: didn't finish the season the way we wanted to. It's 571 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 7: important to be playing your best at. 572 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 8: The end of the year. 573 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: That late slide at the end of the season still 574 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: on everybody's top of mind, of course, and the importance 575 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: of every week to week maintaining that and playing your 576 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 2: best football at the end. 577 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: Of the season, hopefully doing a little bit of reverse 578 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: of what we. 579 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: Saw last year. Does it start in OTAs or does 580 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: it start in the season In your mind, Brian. 581 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 6: I think it starts the last week of training camp. 582 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I mean yes, OTAs are fine, they're good 583 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 4: to get ready for all this. We will talk for 584 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 4: three weeks, but how important OTAs are, And then in 585 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 4: the first interview in training camp, the players will say, 586 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 4: how this is what's important. 587 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 8: Do you know? 588 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 5: What's interesting is, as I was just thinking and listening 589 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: to John, it used to be that there was nothing 590 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 5: in the off season and players would report for six 591 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 5: weeks of training camp, And it. 592 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 6: Sounds like that's what we're going back to. 593 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 5: It does back to the now that's back in the seventies, 594 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 5: in the fourteen game schedule, right where there were six 595 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 5: preseason games, so they're gonna go. They're not gonna have 596 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 5: as many preseason games, but that looks like what they're 597 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 5: doing ever changing. 598 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: We'll see how things turn out. 599 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 2: Ots wrap up this week, we will have mandatory or 600 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 2: mandatory for some mini camp next week, so check in 601 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: with us on Tuesday on Jacks Am