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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm

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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with Alana Rizzo, and before we get

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Speaker 1: into it, I want to thank our co host the

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Speaker 1: last week while I was off, Robert Murray and Tim Kirchin,

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Speaker 1: and most of all, I want to thank Olana because

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Speaker 1: in any business you want to work with true pros.

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Speaker 1: Alana is a true pro. I am grateful that she

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Speaker 1: is my partner here. Now we can get into things,

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Speaker 1: and we can get into Alana's former team, but we're

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Speaker 1: not going to start with.

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Speaker 2: Them, all right, Can you start with the Dodgers?

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Speaker 3: It was great, Yeah, it was. It was great to

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Speaker 3: be with Robert and Tim. But I'm so happy that

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Speaker 3: you are back and you're right. Let's get to the

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Speaker 3: lead and those mighty mighty Brewers.

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Speaker 2: What's going on.

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Speaker 4: It's impressive obviously what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: And let's go through the numbers first and just explain

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Speaker 1: where they are in terms of the division, the races.

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Speaker 1: All of that twelve game winning streak twenty seven of

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Speaker 1: thirty one, they've won twenty seven of thirty one. They

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Speaker 1: half games, By six and a half games, they're on

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Speaker 1: a one hundred and three win pace, and you wonder

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Speaker 1: how the offense works. We're gonna show you two different

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Speaker 1: full screens here to explain just what they do. Runs

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Speaker 4: With the Dodgers. It's incredible.

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Speaker 1: Batting average, second on base second, slugging fourteenth. Why is

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Speaker 1: and this explains it. Home runs per game, they're nineteenth.

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Speaker 4: In the majors.

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Speaker 1: But what do they do well everything else? Strikeout rate

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Speaker 1: in that regard outs on the basis, that's whatob is.

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Speaker 1: How many outs do they make on the bases twenty

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Speaker 1: the majors. So all of these little things that they

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting to me that they're doing this in

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Speaker 4: They don't necessarily have that.

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Speaker 1: They have it to a degree on the pitching staff,

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Speaker 1: but that is not the way they go about it,

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Speaker 1: and they're shaming the entire sport doing it their own way,

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Speaker 1: a fundamentally sound way, and you'll wonder why more teams

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Speaker 4: We talk about small market.

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Speaker 1: Teams, how they can't win, they can't sustain success. Brewers

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Speaker 1: It will be their seventh playoff appearance in eight years.

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Speaker 1: And you'll say, oh, Camp, but they haven't won a

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Speaker 4: That's how this sport works.

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Speaker 1: And they are doing it at a higher level than

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Speaker 3: Ken because of the way that they're doing it, they

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Speaker 2: Early the last couple of years.

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Speaker 3: How big would that be for them to go in

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Speaker 1: It's big for any team, Alana, and obviously it's something

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Speaker 1: all these teams strive for. And we're going to talk

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Speaker 4: You're in great shape if you do that.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise you're subjected to what you just mentioned. What the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like the NL West.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be a two horse

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Speaker 2: In the NL West.

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Speaker 3: The Padres have leapfrogged the Los Angeles Dodgers. The Dodgers

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Speaker 1: They will Alana, And let's show you exactly how this

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Speaker 4: Last six weeks. It's actually been one day less.

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Speaker 1: Than six weeks in which this whole thing has turned.

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Speaker 1: July third n West standings, Dodgers fifty six and thirty two,

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Speaker 1: a ten game swing in a span of forty one days,

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Speaker 1: will see. And Alta, We've been talking about this all year.

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Speaker 1: The one thing that has bugged me about the Dodgers,

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Speaker 1: Now again, you had injuries coming off of the World

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Speaker 1: some point, at some point, they've got to turn it on. Now,

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. If I'm the Dodgers, I'm a little

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Speaker 1: alarmed right now. And if I'm Dave Roberts, I'm saying, guys,

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Speaker 1: the other hand, the Padres all the credit in the

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Speaker 1: world what they've done offensively, the moves that they've made

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Speaker 1: with Loriano and O'Hearn and Freddy for meen transformed the offense, made.

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Speaker 4: It much deeper. And of course the bullpen is utterly ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: It's disgusting.

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Speaker 3: It was the best bullpen in baseball before they even

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Speaker 3: added Mason Miller. Now, the Padres haven't won the division,

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Speaker 3: Ken you know this since two thousand and six. Is

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Speaker 3: this the year that it changes? Do the Padres win

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Speaker 1: If I had to bet right now. I would bet

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Speaker 1: the Padres. I just like everything that is going on

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Speaker 1: a better phrase, Dennis Lynn and the Athletic Today explains

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Speaker 1: by the numbers, just how the Padres have done this

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Speaker 1: in less than six weeks. I'm curious to your opinion.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Dodgers can win this division as

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Speaker 1: they've done so many times over the last decade.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you that I don't think that

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Speaker 3: they've gotten any sort of positive traction the entire length

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Speaker 3: like that. There's not been these amazing streaks of time

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Speaker 3: ten eleven wins straight, like what the Brewers are doing

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Speaker 3: right now. And I know that they keep saying that,

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Speaker 3: you know, everybody's not healthy. As long as the Dodgers

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Speaker 3: which is the end of the season going into October,

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Speaker 3: you know, end of September going into October, I do

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Speaker 3: believe that they win the division again, but it's not

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Speaker 3: going to be by a very comfortable margin. We're not

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Speaker 3: honestly think whatever happens in the next six games with

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Speaker 3: If the Padres win the next two series, I think

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll just add one more thing. I'll believe the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers are going to be healthy and reasonably full strength

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you and me both, Yeah, you and me both.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're getting healthy. They're coming back. They're coming back.

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Speaker 3: from the NL West Ken to the AL West and

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Speaker 3: the Houston Astros. I don't know how this team continues

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Speaker 1: And then you're Don Alvarez in early May. We have

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Speaker 1: not seen him. It's amazing what they've done. And yes,

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Speaker 4: It's a great thing for the Astros.

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Speaker 1: But the news on Josh Hater is rather disturbing, to

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Speaker 1: the Mariners had their eight game winning streak end yesterday

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Speaker 3: That's a fair territory as time now for Grill and

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Speaker 3: Ken, Is this the best use of a twenty six

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Speaker 2: They're getting a lot out of a lot of guys.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, Alana, And it really extends beyond twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Armand can be an apprentice with you one day

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Speaker 2: He's had some good questions here on Grill and Ken. Likelihood.

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Speaker 4: Right now. It's kind of a cop out answer, I

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Speaker 1: But to me, as I just said, you've got to

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Speaker 4: So I would go with Houston until proven otherwise.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this before we go to break.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe the Padres are scared of the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's the same thing as the

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Speaker 1: The Mariners Astros thing is a little bit different because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you ask any Dodger fan or player, even Dave Roberts.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know we've been talking about them all morning, Alana,

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Speaker 4: You see the twelve straight wins.

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Speaker 1: The George Web restaurants are going to have to I

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Speaker 1: don't know what they're going to have to do, but

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Speaker 1: Brewers are dudes of the week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Milwaukee Brewers have single handedly put the George

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Speaker 3: Web restaurants out of business. I'm getting congratulations to the Brewers,

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Speaker 3: and good on you, George Web for feeding your community.

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Speaker 2: My dude of the week is a dudet It is Jen.

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Speaker 3: Powell, of course, becoming the first female Major league baseball umpire.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations to her. That was well earned.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she's had to toil through the minor leagues,

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Speaker 3: just as all umpires have had to do, obviously paying

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Speaker 3: her dues. Great to see her becoming the first Empire

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Speaker 3: ever to do a regular season Major league game. Of course,

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Speaker 3: the game between the Marlins and the Braves, and I

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Speaker 3: don't want to hear it about the call. Every single

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Speaker 3: person in their first major league baseball game doesn't have

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Speaker 3: a perfect umpiring scorecard. Just yesterday, Stebe Bugner missed seven

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Speaker 3: calls in the first inning. So congratulations to Jen Powell.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully the first of many. Okay, time now for dork

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Speaker 3: of the week, Ken, who do you have?

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Speaker 1: All right? Alta, we haven't talked about this yet, and

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Speaker 1: in any other week, when maybe less things were happening

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Speaker 1: or fewer things were happening.

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Speaker 4: We'd be talking big time about this.

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Speaker 1: The pole Ad family for deciding to keep the twins

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Speaker 1: instead of selling them.

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Speaker 4: They're the dorks of the week, and they're the dorks of.

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Speaker 1: The week, not for that decision in a vacuum. They're

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Speaker 1: the dorks of the week because of what has happened

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Speaker 1: in the last several years with this team, how they've

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Speaker 1: cut payroll, how they essentially oversaw a fire sale at

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Speaker 1: the deadline, how they brought this team down from a

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Speaker 1: pretty high perch, and yet because they couldn't get their price,

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Speaker 1: they said, you know what, We're not going to do

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Speaker 1: this and I want one more thing out there. At

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Speaker 1: least from my perspective on this particular issue, you're going

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Speaker 1: to hear as we get closer to the CBA talks that, well,

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Speaker 1: we need a salary cap because owners aren't getting enough

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Speaker 1: money for their teams. Franchise values are not what they

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Speaker 1: should be. It's not on the players to get the

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Speaker 1: franchise values higher. Players are doing a good enough job

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Speaker 1: just by performing on the field. That's what they're supposed

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Speaker 1: to do.

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Speaker 4: So you want to make an argument for a salary gap,

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Speaker 4: don't make that argument.

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Speaker 1: At least to me, it's weak. And for the Pole

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Speaker 1: Ads to kind of just bawl on this sale and

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Speaker 1: do what the Nationals and Angels have done reverse course

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Speaker 1: after putting the team on the market, it's bad news

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Speaker 1: for the fans of Minnesota, and that's who we should

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Speaker 1: care about the most.

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Speaker 3: That is exactly what I was going to ask you

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Speaker 3: in terms of the reverse actions here. How similar is

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Speaker 3: this situation with the Twins to Artie Moreno, with the

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Speaker 3: Angels and the group with the Nationals trying to sell

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Speaker 3: and then deciding not to and then perhaps we will

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Speaker 3: and then maybe we're not.

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Speaker 7: Are there similarities in this It's difficult to say without

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Speaker 7: knowing the particulars, Alana, but the similarity seems to be

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Speaker 7: they're not getting the prices they wanted.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe they're asking too much. I don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: not something that we're privy to. But the Twins were

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Speaker 1: pretty clearly in search of one point seven billion, and

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Speaker 1: the minority investors coming.

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Speaker 4: In as the Athletic reporter.

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Speaker 1: Today the valuation is above one point seven billion, So

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Speaker 1: at that level they.

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Speaker 4: Could get it.

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Speaker 1: They just couldn't get the whole chunk, I would imagine.

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Speaker 1: And again, each situation is different. But maybe owners should

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Speaker 1: not be looking for X when they're only getting Why.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's unbelievable one point seven billion for the Minnesota Twins.

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Speaker 3: My dork of the week as the couple that decided

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Speaker 3: to get married in between a ballgame with the eph

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Speaker 3: Guardians a guaranteed rate field. Not only to me personally,

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Speaker 3: is it bad enough to have a JumboTron proposal, but

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Speaker 3: how about a wedding in the middle of a game?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, in between innings. I mean, honestly, I

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Speaker 3: don't know about this. That's not for me, but I

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Speaker 3: guess I don't know. Happy marriage is that? And my

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Speaker 3: old lady yelling at clouds I don't know?

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Speaker 2: This to me is so tacky.

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Speaker 4: I can only speak to my own personal situation.

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Speaker 1: My wife would not have gone for such a stunt.

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Speaker 1: Not the proposal, the wedding, not the ballpark, not any

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: To me, it is so unoriginal.

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Speaker 3: I obviously she has I would imagine she is a

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Speaker 3: large baseball fan, or she probably would have put the

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Speaker 3: kebash on this whole situation and the whole thought of

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Speaker 3: doing this. But in between I mean that that is

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Speaker 3: a rushed wedding, right, talk about shotgun wedding. You only

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Speaker 3: have in between innings, Like there's a pitchclock, Like, guys

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Speaker 3: gotta get on the mound and throw and throw the

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Speaker 3: baseball cain like do you I do?

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Speaker 2: Do you sure?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Great? Go back to your seats and have a hot talk.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 2: Ken.

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Speaker 3: There was an interesting article from Tyler Kepner talking about

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Speaker 3: Pete Alonso and what he means to the New York Mets.

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Speaker 3: Should Steve Cohen and the Mets sign this man up

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Speaker 3: for a lifetime contract to retire as a Met.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm experiencing deja fulana. We were having

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Speaker 1: this conversation last year at this time, and it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a very similar conversation this offseason.

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Speaker 4: Alonso has an opt out.

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Speaker 1: He's going to opt out as he should and explore

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Speaker 1: the market again. He wants to be a Met. The

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Speaker 1: Mets wanted to stay with the Mets. The question is

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Speaker 1: will they pay him what he wants, what he thinks

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Speaker 1: is appropriate. With his agent, Scott boris Now, Pete said

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Speaker 1: the other day after breaking the team's franchise home run record,

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Speaker 1: that it's on Steve Cohen and David Stearns, and I

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Speaker 1: know what he meant. He meant it's got to start

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Speaker 1: with them wanting him. But ultimately this is a negotiation

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Speaker 1: between the two parties. And what happened last year, it

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Speaker 1: dragged on and on and on because they could not

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Speaker 1: agree on Pete's future value, and it's.

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Speaker 4: Going to be very similar.

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Speaker 1: He's a year older now, and heaven forbid a player

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Speaker 1: turned thirty in this day and age, but that's what happens,

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Speaker 1: and teams look at that. And while he should be

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Speaker 1: a Met forever, the question is going to be how

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Speaker 1: much is that going to cost the Mets. If it's

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Speaker 1: going to cost them in Scott Boris's mind, I'm just

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Speaker 1: throwing this number out six years, two hundred and ten million.

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Speaker 4: It's thirty five a year. Mets are probably going to

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Speaker 4: say no.

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Speaker 1: If they can get to some lower number that both

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Speaker 1: sides find acceptable, Yeah, it'll happen, But I don't know

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Speaker 1: that it's going to be easy because the same dynamics

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Speaker 1: are in place.

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Speaker 3: Anything for a price, right, it just has to be

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Speaker 3: the right price point for both sides of the equation. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you have on Fox on Saturday, the Cardinals versus the Yankees.

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Speaker 3: I'm not certain that that one is a barn burner

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Speaker 3: in terms of a fourth place team going up against

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Speaker 3: a third place team in the New York Yankees. But

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Speaker 3: what are you hoping ken to see from this matchup

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Speaker 3: this upcoming Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I'm just really interested to see the Yankees and are

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Speaker 1: they going to come out of it. They had a

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Speaker 1: decent series against the Twins, winning two of three, but

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Speaker 1: they have to at some point somewhat like the Dodgers

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Speaker 1: turn it on again, and they've been unable to do that,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they will be unable to do that.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I'll be looking.

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Speaker 1: At and focusing on here, just where the Yankees are,

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Speaker 1: the way they're playing, how it's all coming together for them.

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Speaker 1: One guy we should mention, gian Carlos Stanton. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of amazing to me, Alana, how he's turned it around

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Speaker 1: both with his career in some respects and with the

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Speaker 1: fan base.

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Speaker 4: Suddenly he's appreciated in New York.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Baldi, Austin Wells and all the other beleaguered Yankees.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Boom, there's hope for you all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: One day they want to send you to the moon,

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Speaker 3: the next day they're over having you over for Cannoli's.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna do it for us.

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