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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday. Glad you're with us. Yeah, we are still

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Speaker 1: in Singapore three a m. Local time. I'm actually getting

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Speaker 1: Eight nine one, Shawn, If you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program, I G report is coming out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: those members of Congress that are trying to do congressional

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the eighteen all important mid term elections.

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Speaker 1: We have more fallout from the summit here in Singapore. Oh,

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Speaker 1: in California wants to break into three. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: I love these referendums and referendum states. So you'll have

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Speaker 1: see it happening. UM, and that would be three California states.

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Speaker 1: You'd break the state into three. And we'll explain all

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Speaker 1: We'll have the more fallout, you know, the presidents and

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Speaker 1: fake news. That's exactly when New king Rich breaks his

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Speaker 1: of the challenges that the president faces, and challenge number

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Speaker 1: So as they advanced this false narrative, caricature agenda. UM,

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Speaker 1: something to debate. Hillary Clinton made a decision against State

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody listening to this program today. And

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Speaker 1: Buddy had heard a bleach bit before Hillary Clinton because

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Speaker 1: that is called bleach bit, and after she used bleach bit,

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Speaker 1: the idea was everything was white clean ed. Henry infamously

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Speaker 1: now asked her, did you did you wipe the server clean?

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Speaker 1: And her answer, you mean like ed with a cloth?

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Speaker 1: have no idea. That's why we turned it over. We

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Speaker 1: were in charge of it. You were the official in charge.

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Speaker 1: Did you wipe the server but like with a cloth

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Speaker 1: laws in one case and not another case, then we

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Speaker 1: don't have equal justice under the law. We're no longer

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Speaker 1: really a constitutional republic. And and that's why it's so

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Speaker 1: key and so important. For example, look at the Russia investigation.

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Speaker 1: The very people that are involved in rigging, as far

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Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, the investigation into Hillary are also the

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Speaker 1: very people that have been pushing and pushing and pushing

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Speaker 1: this Trump Russia collusion narrative. Now you can look at

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Speaker 1: all of the indictment, she's well, well, there's five people,

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Speaker 1: some played guilty. They didn't plead guilty to anything involving

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Speaker 1: Trump campaign Russia collusion at all. You know, Michael Flynn

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Speaker 1: lying to the fbich had nothing to do about conversations

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Speaker 1: with as soon to be counterpart, and when he that

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Speaker 1: they had illegally surveiled and he didn't give the exact

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Speaker 1: answer when they questioned him, so therefore they said he's

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Speaker 1: lying to the FBI or in the case of Paul Manafort, well,

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Speaker 1: I think Judge Ellis the third got that right. If

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Speaker 1: they're looking at tax fraud issues back to two thousand

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Speaker 1: and five through two thousand and seven that have to

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Speaker 1: do with work that he did for the Ukraine and

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Speaker 1: not Russia, and whether or not money was funneled, or

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Speaker 1: whether or not there's a tax fraud of some kind

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Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with Russia, It has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with the campaign. It has to do with

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Speaker 1: Paul Manafort. But I think, as Judge Ellis said, I

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Speaker 1: think they brought that case back up for one reason

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Speaker 1: to put the screws to Manifort, to make him sing.

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Speaker 1: Although he may compose. Because when somebody's facing a lot

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Speaker 1: of years in jail and you say, well, if you

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Speaker 1: give up this person, we'll just make it six months

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Speaker 1: probation or house arrest. Thirty years in jail, six months

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Speaker 1: house probation, What do you want me to say? What

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Speaker 1: are you looking for? That happens all the time, And

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Speaker 1: by the way, that should not happen. You cannot incentivize

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Speaker 1: somebody literally holding out freedom to somebody that's facing jail

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Speaker 1: time and anticipate and expect that they're gonna tell the

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Speaker 1: truth on all occasions. And it's a it's a flawed

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Speaker 1: part of our criminal justice system. So Judge Ellis says,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna put the screws to him, and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: try and make him sing or he's gonna compose. And

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Speaker 1: the whole purpose is to get information so that they

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Speaker 1: could use to prosecute or impeach Donald Trump. And that's

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Speaker 1: why this is all happening. Alright, So back to my point,

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Speaker 1: back to where we are here. You know, look at

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Speaker 1: the fight that is going on with the you know,

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Speaker 1: we we have all these congressional committees. We have Good

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Speaker 1: Lats Committee, Gouty's Committee, we have Devin Newness House Intel Committee.

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Speaker 1: And apparently back in January, the Deputy Attorney General, who

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Speaker 1: I've been told by numerous people has a vicious, horrible,

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Speaker 1: angry temper, threatened the subpoena the emails, phone records, other

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Speaker 1: documents from lawmakers and staff of the Republican House led

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Speaker 1: committee during a tense exchange earlier this week. So he's

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Speaker 1: going to use the Department of Justice subpoena powers to

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Speaker 1: basically intimidate members that are are tasked constitutionally with doing

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Speaker 1: oversight and looking into any potential corruption that might have

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Speaker 1: taken place at the Department of Justice. It is outrageous,

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Speaker 1: it is And this is only just getting known that

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Speaker 1: he criticized the committee for sending our requests and writing

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Speaker 1: and further critical that the committee's requests to have the

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Speaker 1: d o J FBI do the same when responding, etcetera, etcetera,

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Speaker 1: going as far as to say that if the Committee

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Speaker 1: likes being litigators, then we the d o J. We

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Speaker 1: two our litigators litigators, and guess what will subpoena your records?

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Speaker 1: Will subpoena your emails? Referring to the House Government Reform

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, the House Intel Committee, the Permanent Select

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Speaker 1: Committee on Intelligence and Congress overall. Well, okay, that's basically

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Speaker 1: saying we're going to use our power to stop you

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Speaker 1: from doing what is constitutionally your job, and that is

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Speaker 1: in a system of checks and balances and coequal branches

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Speaker 1: of government to find out if there is corruption that

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Speaker 1: has been taken place. Remember, Rod Rosenstein is the guy

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Speaker 1: that never wanted a hand over what became the new

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Speaker 1: Nez memo that described all the FISA abuse and the

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Speaker 1: line that went on to four separate FISA judges. And

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Speaker 1: it was Rod Rosenstein that signed the fourth FISA warrant

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Speaker 1: against Carter Page, Trump campaign associate. And he was also

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Speaker 1: the guy that wrote the letter recommending the firing of Comey.

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Speaker 1: So it's the same Rod Rosenstein that has no business

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Speaker 1: being the person that picks Robert Mueller to be the

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Speaker 1: special prosecutor to investigate Trump on Trump Russia collusion. And

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Speaker 1: if we're speaking of collusion of any kind, well we

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Speaker 1: do know there was collusion in this sense. Was that

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, her campaign and the d n C and

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Speaker 1: the finances that she controlled, funneled money to a law

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Speaker 1: firm Perkins Cooie for the purpose of hiring a OP

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Speaker 1: research firm, uh which we know Fusion GPS, which then

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Speaker 1: hires a foreign national. I thought that was bad. Christopher Steele,

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Speaker 1: Christopher Steele uses Russian and Russian government sources to create

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Speaker 1: a dossier. And the dossier, according to his own words

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Speaker 1: and interrogatories, as he's facing the possibility of perjury, said well,

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Speaker 1: it's probably, you know, fifty fifty. I never this is

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Speaker 1: just raw intelligence that fifty fifty became the basis of

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Speaker 1: advisor warrant to spy on an American citizen that happened

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Speaker 1: to be a member of the opposition party campaign during

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Speaker 1: a presidential election. Anyway, we'll have the latest on this,

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Speaker 1: David Shown and Sarah Carter as we continue from Singapore.

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Speaker 1: One Shawn is our number. New Game Ridge is going

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Speaker 1: to check in with us today. Daniel Hoffman on the

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Speaker 1: fallout from North Korea in the summit. Al right, news

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Speaker 1: round up, information overloads. As we continue from Singapore today

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Speaker 1: five am Local time, five o'clock Eastern time, PM Eastern

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Speaker 1: and in d C, New York, and of course two

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Speaker 1: o'clock Pacific nine. One Shawn is on number. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: have my interview with the President coming at the bottom

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Speaker 1: of this half hour, but we do continue a lot

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Speaker 1: of news being made and fallout from the summit here

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Speaker 1: in Singapore. Kim Jong Un, now, according to the UK Independent,

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Speaker 1: has now accepted Donald Trump's invitation to visit the United States.

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Speaker 1: North Korea media is also reporting that and what could

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Speaker 1: be further evidence of his commitment to engage in the

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Speaker 1: peace process. I do agree with News said, the more

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Speaker 1: they see the United States, the more they're gonna like it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, the more they see places like Singapore

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Speaker 1: right here in their region of the world, A vibrant city, um,

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Speaker 1: as beautiful as any you've been to. You know, tall buildings.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll throw a PI tris up for you

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Speaker 1: if your interest, or just go online and take a look.

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Speaker 1: It is a clean, vibrant um city with prosperity and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people doing well. Not exactly my former government,

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Speaker 1: but certainly a lot better than what they have with

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Speaker 1: thirty five dollars a month the average amount of money

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Speaker 1: that is earned in North Korea, not exactly living high

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Speaker 1: on the hug um. I want to just make a

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Speaker 1: comparison here. You know, the president saying he wants to

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Speaker 1: d nuke the entire Korean peninsula. Um. And then you've

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Speaker 1: got the media coverage of all of this. You know,

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Speaker 1: their focus is on the menu and ripping the menu

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Speaker 1: from the Kim Jong un lunch. I guess we should

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Speaker 1: have served caviat and champaigne. Not what what what do

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Speaker 1: you what is the proper menu? Maybe they requested certain

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Speaker 1: things maybe we did offer them other options here, or

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Speaker 1: the media criticizing. You know, the summit just goes on

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Speaker 1: and on. In spite of all of the things that

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Speaker 1: happened before the summit that incentivized this country, meaning the

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Speaker 1: United States, our country. You know that this is a

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Speaker 1: good thing to do. We can make progress. We don't

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Speaker 1: have missiles being fired over Japan. We have hostages that

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Speaker 1: are now home. We have a nuclear test site that

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Speaker 1: has been dismantled crossing of the d m Z, and

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Speaker 1: I promise to to look at and and negotiate through

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Speaker 1: the d nuclearization of the entire peninsula. Let's play it

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Speaker 1: the start day. Let's just I think most people like

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Speaker 1: me want to know what was going on in that

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Speaker 1: room one on one. Well, the big thing is, this

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Speaker 1: is now my twenty fifth hour of being up in negotiating,

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Speaker 1: and we've been negotiating very hard. This is about the complete, verifiable,

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Speaker 1: irreversible de nuclearization of the entire peninsula. So without that

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Speaker 1: we could not have had a deal. I mean, do

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Speaker 1: one thing up. We want to d new the entire peninsula.

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Speaker 1: We want a d new that whole situation that a

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Speaker 1: summit is not an accomplishment for the American President. Brian Uh,

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Speaker 1: it is a major accomplishment for Kim jongoon, and in fact,

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Speaker 1: the spectacle of seeing the American flags along with the

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Speaker 1: DPRK flags as the bat shop for that handshake is

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Speaker 1: really jarring actually to to see, to witness. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I would say it's somewhat disgusting. It is actually a

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Speaker 1: debasement of the American flag. This is a despotic regime

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Speaker 1: that murders its own citizens, and so we're putting him

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Speaker 1: on the same stage as the American President. I don't

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Speaker 1: think we should discount the idea. It's not a coincidence

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Speaker 1: that this is precisely what putin desires. He places an

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Speaker 1: over emphasis on personal chemistry and not realizing that countries

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Speaker 1: have interests, they represent their interests. He Kim Jong n

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Speaker 1: did a very good job of representing the interests of

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Speaker 1: his nation and his own personal interests, and he snookered

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Speaker 1: Donald Tump. It may be okay in the real estate business,

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Speaker 1: but it's odious and disgusting when he was fawning over

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Speaker 1: one of the most vicious dictators on the planet. You

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Speaker 1: look at the polls. Uh, It's really interesting because where

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Speaker 1: we're talking about North Korea. Um, you know, the like

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Speaker 1: the last we're talking about Russia, right, the last we're

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Speaker 1: talking about issues at home? Yeah, well, why would we

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Speaker 1: not spend another year and a half talking about Russia

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Speaker 1: with no evidence ever in the year and a half? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: why why would it matter? If we're talking about a

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Speaker 1: regime that was firing missiles six months ago over Japan

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Speaker 1: and threatening the entire region and threatening to marry their

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Speaker 1: nuclear weapons to intercontinental ballistic weapons that could meet the

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Speaker 1: continental United States or reach the continental United States? Why

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Speaker 1: talk about that when we can spend another you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours a day were weeks on end talking

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Speaker 1: to Michael Alvanati and about Stormy Daniels. I mean, why

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Speaker 1: would we ever do that? I mean, the our priorities

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Speaker 1: are skewed. Why would I spend twenty two hours in

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Speaker 1: the air and come to Singapore when I could have

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Speaker 1: stayed home and talk talked about Mueller and phony Russia

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Speaker 1: investigations and and of course Stormy Daniels. Anyway, you can't

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Speaker 1: even begin to make this stuff up. Joining us now, uh,

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Speaker 1: And we're glad to have him. He's been here the

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Speaker 1: entire time with us. Daniel Hoppin Fox News contributor. By

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Speaker 1: the way, thirty plus years CIA operations officer, and you

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Speaker 1: know a lot about this region of the world. One

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Speaker 1: of your closest friends in the CIA actually was brought

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Speaker 1: in to consult on this particular case. Right, Yeah, that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's Andrew Kim. You know, one of the one of

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Speaker 1: the really important steps that Secretary of Pompeo made when

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Speaker 1: shortly after he was sworn in as Director of CIA,

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Speaker 1: he created the Korean Mission Center so that we would

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Speaker 1: focus exclusively on on the Korean Peninsula the challenge we faced.

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Speaker 1: And then he brought back a recently retired senior Clandestine

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Speaker 1: Services officer, Andy Kim to run it. And he's a

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Speaker 1: native Korean speaker, he served in the region. He's, in

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Speaker 1: my view, are best subject matter expert on the agent.

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Speaker 1: But I do want to just quickly comment on your

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Speaker 1: last point about the hypocrisy and the media. It was

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Speaker 1: just a little while ago when during his campaign, uh

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Speaker 1: then candidate Obama suggested meeting with dictators from Iran and

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Speaker 1: from North Korea without preconditions, and that was applauded, And

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Speaker 1: you know, I just don't want to just don't get

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Speaker 1: that hypocrisy. You know a lot of people and I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna be I said it during the Obama years

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Speaker 1: when you have somebody that apologizes for America, and somebody,

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Speaker 1: I mean Sarah Carter was the one that broke the

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Speaker 1: story about the rules of engagement that Obama had put

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Speaker 1: on our brave men and women in the military, which

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Speaker 1: literally is basically putting handcuffs on them and their ability

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Speaker 1: to defend themselves. We we send them to fight, risk

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Speaker 1: their lives, risk losing their limbs, and many of them

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Speaker 1: have and then we tell them, but you can't fire

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Speaker 1: unless you're a sense sure. Now, that type of rule

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Speaker 1: of engagement results in people dying because you cannot second

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Speaker 1: guess those people that are on the battlefield. And the

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Speaker 1: fact that we did do that is a form of

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Speaker 1: insanity to me. And I said at the time, I

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Speaker 1: would not want anybody that I loved and cared about

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Speaker 1: serving under that commander in chief because he's weak and

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Speaker 1: the same thing we we saw how weak he was

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Speaker 1: with the molos of around. I wouldn't want him negotiating

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Speaker 1: with Kim Jong un because he'd probably be doing the

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Speaker 1: same thing Clinton did, or the same thing he did

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Speaker 1: with the molos bribing them and kissing their ring and saying, well,

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Speaker 1: if I give you billions of dollars, you promised to

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Speaker 1: be nice. And it's a mentality I don't understand, and

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Speaker 1: the idea that you'd have a different philosophy under a

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Speaker 1: different president that has this the same same approach to

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Speaker 1: foreign policy as say Reagan, which is trust but verifying

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Speaker 1: piece through strength. It's not hypocritical, it's not inconsistent. It's

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Speaker 1: called you know what, it's called using common sense judgment

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Speaker 1: based on the current reality or the situation of who's

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Speaker 1: the commander in chief. I have I do have one

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Speaker 1: standard for Obama and I have another standard for Trump,

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Speaker 1: because I trust the Trump is gonna be strong with

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Speaker 1: these guys and be willing to walk away any second. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand how when the on the one hand,

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Speaker 1: for the for the folks criticizing President Trump, they were

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Speaker 1: applauding President Obama for for suggesting what even wasn't as

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Speaker 1: effective as what President Trump is doing. And to a

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Speaker 1: point about your rules of engagement, I witnessed that firsthand

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Speaker 1: we were hamstrung by um just odious rules of engagement

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Speaker 1: that were overly bureaucratic and absolutely impacted our ability to

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Speaker 1: take the fight to the enemy and defend ourselves. I mean,

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Speaker 1: then we saw what happened. I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you know the case of Clint Laurance. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the guy's got what twenty deers in jail and he

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Speaker 1: became a platoon commander. And because he didn't quote follow

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Speaker 1: every specific rule of engagement. I'd like to see the

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Speaker 1: President important him at some point, sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 1: So you know the region, you see what happened, you

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Speaker 1: see the media's coverage of it. And now Kim Jong

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Speaker 1: un wants to come to the United States. How should

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Speaker 1: we interpret that. You've been one that has been very

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Speaker 1: serious about the idea. You got to manage expectations. We

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Speaker 1: know what he did before the president got here in Singapore,

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Speaker 1: how do you read that? So a couple of points

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Speaker 1: about that. First of all, we are deeply diplomatically engaged

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Speaker 1: with North Korea right now. Tension is down. So those

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Speaker 1: were criticizing the president for his rhetoric in the past

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Speaker 1: and now criticizing him for current steps to bring diplomacy

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Speaker 1: to the fold. I just again, that's inconsistent. I'm not

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Speaker 1: quite sure, I understand that, but I would also highlight

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Speaker 1: for historians. Uh, we all remember the Reagan years and

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Speaker 1: the multiple summits with Mikhail Gorbachov. It took two or

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Speaker 1: three summits before we actually got to where we needed in.

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Speaker 1: The more contact we have, we build muscle memory inside

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Speaker 1: that Hermit Kingdom North Korea bureaucracy, where the guys on

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Speaker 1: Kim Jong team get used to traveling and meeting our

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Speaker 1: folks and talking about areas of common concern. I think

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Speaker 1: that's all a very good thing for us. Uh. There's

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Speaker 1: no question that there will be a lot of steps

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Speaker 1: that that will have to get through before that White

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Speaker 1: House visit. But the discussion already I think is very positive.

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Speaker 1: Here's one of the big questions, and your years as

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Speaker 1: an intelligence officer with the cia UM, I think you

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Speaker 1: know better than anybody. Do the Chinese want this to happen?

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Speaker 1: After all, this is their region of the world. They

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Speaker 1: have the greater amount of influence of North Korea, or

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Speaker 1: that they want instability in the region because maybe their

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Speaker 1: territorial ambitions, right, So the first thing they want is stability.

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Speaker 1: They're very concerned about an unstable North Korea, the potential

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Speaker 1: for a real crisis if that regime imploded. But they're

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Speaker 1: also concerned about US influence in the region. They'd like

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Speaker 1: to get our troops out. They would prefer that we

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Speaker 1: not conduct military exercises. Those are okay, those are points

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Speaker 1: of leverage for us that we can use against the

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Speaker 1: China needs. For sure. Uh, they don't have our best

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Speaker 1: interests at heart. We know that. But this president, this

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Speaker 1: administration can I think that. I think there's a different

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Speaker 1: way to look at it. The Chinese are out for

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Speaker 1: the Chinese. Chinese president is looking out for his country,

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Speaker 1: and really almost for the first time, we got an

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Speaker 1: American president saying I'm looking out for America first. And

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Speaker 1: that's why, for example, the negotiation on trade deals are

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Speaker 1: so important. Um and so I mean in that sense,

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Speaker 1: he can't fault them. The question is to the Chinese,

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Speaker 1: do they want peace, that they want to a safer

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Speaker 1: world than a better society? I think they do. I

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Speaker 1: think the question that I'd be asking our intelligence community

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Speaker 1: is does China. Is China prepared to go as far

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Speaker 1: as they need to go to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula

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Speaker 1: or would they prefer that North Korea maybe look a

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Speaker 1: little bit more like China, where they open up economically,

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Speaker 1: retain political control and repression over their own citizens, reduced

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Speaker 1: their nuclear profile, reduced that maybe stop the testing um,

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Speaker 1: stop the testing of the I C b ms and

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Speaker 1: and bring some stability to the region. That might be

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Speaker 1: where China is headed, and that might be where we

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Speaker 1: have more discussion with them. All right, Daniel Hoffman is

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Speaker 1: with us thirty plus years in the CIA is an

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Speaker 1: operative eight nine POT one. Shawn is our number. We'll

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Speaker 1: come back a little more with him. My interview with

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Speaker 1: President Trump coming up, and as we continue our final moments.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Hoffman, CIA operative. You know, uh, I told everybody

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Speaker 1: and we were discussing it the other day. When you

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Speaker 1: stop buying, how you literally scare the crap out of

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Speaker 1: everybody when you sit and we you know, we've had

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Speaker 1: lunches and dinners together, and everybody's like, oh, all of

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Speaker 1: this is happening, and most people don't know meaning spying.

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Speaker 1: It's that bad. Yeah, I mean under the surface, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot going on in Singapore. And you talked about Singapore.

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Speaker 1: It's the prototype for this economically vibrant region where North

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Speaker 1: Korea is the outlier. But uh, yeah, there's you know,

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Speaker 1: the Russians and the Chinese were not here officially, but

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Speaker 1: they were here with their espionage teams trying to collect

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Speaker 1: intelligence on what was going on at summit and on

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Speaker 1: those senior US officials and others who were involved. And

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Speaker 1: but the fact is the you said, it's a lot

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Speaker 1: more likely we'd get spied on in Singapore because you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously because of the events that were here. What about

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Speaker 1: in the United States, How vulnerable are people because you know,

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Speaker 1: if you look online and you read Apple, they say, well,

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Speaker 1: your iPhone is encrypted, and uh, it's safe, and the

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Speaker 1: FBI had a problem opening an iPhone. You don't think

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Speaker 1: that's a problem for foreign services. Well, let me start

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Speaker 1: with the human element. The Russians and the Chinese flood

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Speaker 1: the zone inside the United States. They have a tremendous

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Speaker 1: number of intelligence officers. You might remember the case of

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Speaker 1: the Russian illegals operating the United States. We arrested them

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Speaker 1: in two thousand ten and traded them for four guys

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Speaker 1: who were going to take their last breaths in Siberian

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Speaker 1: death camps who had been some of them, one of

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Speaker 1: them in particular, have been spying on our behalf Uh,

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Speaker 1: so they're out to collect intelligence from human sources, both

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Speaker 1: the Chinese and the Russians inside the United States. You

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Speaker 1: can be sure at this upcoming Why How summit that

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Speaker 1: they'll be mounting a full court press to collect intelligence

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Speaker 1: on the summit. And do we have the ability to

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Speaker 1: stop them? You know, I often wonder whether the FBI

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Speaker 1: has the resources to counter Russia China. But in that environment,

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Speaker 1: would not be a CIA operation within the United States

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Speaker 1: because it deals with foreign entities. No, it's actually an

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Speaker 1: FBI operation domestically, we would CIA will be collecting intelligence

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Speaker 1: on them, on them, but inside Russia and China and

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Speaker 1: other places. Know, there comes a point where you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't blame them. At some point, we've got to

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Speaker 1: defend ourselves. And if we don't do that, you know,

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Speaker 1: we really love no one else to blame. Daniel Hopper

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Speaker 1: will see on TV tonight Hannity from Singapore nine Eastern

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Speaker 1: don't miss it, will preview the IG report, latest fall

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Speaker 1: out from this summit and the battle that's going on.

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Speaker 1: Devin Nooness and others will be joining us tonight. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and we hope you'll join us. Quick break right back

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Speaker 1: my interview with the President is next, alright till the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour. A's well, let's see here, uh

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Speaker 1: six am here top of the hour, a m. In Singapore. Anyway, Um,

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Speaker 1: we're still in Singapore. We have to stay so we

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Speaker 1: can get the i G report to you tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: full and comprehensive coverage of all of that which we

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Speaker 1: will be bringing you on radio NTV. We will have

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Speaker 1: Hannity tonight Live nine Eastern on the Fox News channel.

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Speaker 1: And I had the interview in the opportunity to sit

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Speaker 1: down with the president after he had this historic meeting

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Speaker 1: with Kim Jong un. We now have an update. Kim

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Speaker 1: Jong un, according to North Korean press, has accepted the

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Speaker 1: President's invitation. He will be coming to the United States,

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Speaker 1: which is a good sign. And so I want to

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Speaker 1: play the interview that I had in the exact room

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Speaker 1: where they first sat down and met. And this is

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Speaker 1: me talking to the President right after this all took place.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Historic day. Let's just I think

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Speaker 1: most people like me want to know what was going

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Speaker 1: on in that room one on one. Well, the big

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Speaker 1: thing is this is now my twenty fifth hour of

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Speaker 1: being up and negotiating, and we've been negotiating very hard.

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Speaker 1: This is about the complete, verifiable, irreversible de nuclearization of

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Speaker 1: the entire peninsula. So without that we could not have

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Speaker 1: had a deal. I mean, one thing, we want to

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Speaker 1: d nuke the entire peninsula. We want to d nuke

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Speaker 1: that whole situation. That is a hotbed. And you know

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Speaker 1: what's been happening for years and nobody did anything about it,

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Speaker 1: and you have to, we have no choice. We had to.

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Speaker 1: The relationship was really good. The you know it built

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Speaker 1: and I talked about early on in the relationship and

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Speaker 1: the feeling, well, we had a very good feel right

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Speaker 1: from the beginning, and we were able to get something

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Speaker 1: very important done. And actually something's happened after that was

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Speaker 1: sign shown where we're getting rid of certain missile research areas,

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Speaker 1: certain missile testing sites, and they're getting rid of a lot,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the lead up to this, and this

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Speaker 1: was pretty amazing because obviously I'm a pretty strong critic

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Speaker 1: of our news media in that country. But a lot

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Speaker 1: had happened. He had dismantled a nuclear test site, he

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Speaker 1: crossed over the d MZ, three hostages were released, the

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Speaker 1: missiles stopped being fired. He was willing you wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: come here if he did not, if he was not

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Speaker 1: willing to talk about d nuclearization. That's right. So all

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Speaker 1: of that happened before you walked in, And I don't

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Speaker 1: remember that you send cargo planes, a cash or gave

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Speaker 1: anything really before the lead up? Why do you think

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Speaker 1: you why do you think he's interested in doing this

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Speaker 1: after spending that time? But that it's sort of interesting

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Speaker 1: because I noticed some of the president. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: knocking him because honestly, they're treating me very good on

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Speaker 1: the subject. What's to treat badly? But some of the

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Speaker 1: press would say he's meeting with them, and therefore he

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Speaker 1: has a major loss. I said, since when, and you

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Speaker 1: know others wanted to it never worked out. It probably

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Speaker 1: never could have worked out. But we really have gotten

854
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: a lot. You haven't seen missiles going up in seven

855
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: or eight months, you haven't seen research, you haven't seen

856
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: nuclear tests. Very importantly, Japan is very happy because they

857
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: were being encircled. I mean, there was a period of

858
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: time when they were going right over the middle of

859
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: Japan and we got our hostages back. And you're right,

860
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: we didn't pay for that. But but I think I

861
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: don't say that in a braggadoshes way at all, because

862
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: he did such a smart thing, because that was such

863
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: a good a good thing to do. And I feel

864
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: so badly about Otto warm beer. That was the one thing.

865
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: And Otto did not die in Vain, I actually believe,

866
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 1: and I've gotten very friendly without those parents. They're incredible people,

867
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: devastated as they you know, as you would think great parents.

868
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: He was a great young man. But I think without Otto,

869
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: this whole thing wouldn't have happened, because it crystallized when

870
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: he came back in the condition. It crystallized so much

871
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: to so many people, maybe even to the other side, frankly,

872
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: but I think that Otto truly did not die in Vain.

873
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: I've known you for a lot of years, and I

874
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: think one trait that I could say is brutal honesty

875
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: in the room alone and then the subsequent talks with

876
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: your team and their team, how honest, how brutal, what

877
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: was said to try and bring people into the room.

878
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: So we got along very well. We got along from

879
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: the beginning. We started off, he and myself and two interpreters,

880
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 1: and from the beginning we got along. And you know,

881
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 1: I've made the statement and I've said it before. I've

882
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: said it about a lot of different kinds of relationships.

883
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: You can almost tell red at the beginning. There a

884
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: lot of people critics quickly saying, when you said a

885
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: little rocket man or fire and fury, or you know,

886
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: when he said, oh, I've got a red button on

887
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: my desk, he said, oh, mine's bigger and it works

888
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: better than yours. How did we how did it evolve

889
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: from that to this? Because he did say at the

890
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: very beginning, we're going to basically start all and what

891
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: that has been building behind the scenes. Well, I think

892
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: without the rhetoric, we wouldn't have been here. I really

893
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: believe that. You know, we did sanctions and all of

894
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: the things that you would do, but I think without

895
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: the rhetoric, you know, other administrations, I don't want to

896
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: get specific on that, but they had a policy of silence.

897
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: If they said something very bad, very threatening and horrible,

898
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: just don't answer. That's not the answer, that's not what

899
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: you have to do. So I think the rhetoric. I

900
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: hated to do it sometimes I felt foolish doing it,

901
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: but we had no choice. So strategically you were doing it. Well, yeah,

902
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: I mean, but and I think he gained respect. You know,

903
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: he's a strong guy. Hey, people were saying, what's he like.

904
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: He's got a very good personality. He's funny, and he's

905
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: very very smart. He's a great negotiator, and he's a

906
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: very strategic kind of a guy. One of the points

907
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: that I think surprised everybody. I think, um, every American

908
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: should be very happy about this is the Korean War

909
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: which has gone on for so long. More importantly, there

910
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: are still American remains there and they will be repatriated.

911
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: Remains are coming back, and we got that at the end.

912
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: In fact, we have some things that you don't even

913
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: have in the report. We put in a teleports, what

914
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: we signed, missile sites that they used for the launching

915
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: of missiles, and missile research areas that's going to be gone.

916
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: We made a lot of progress, tremendous amount of progress.

917
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 1: And one of the things that I'm very happy about,

918
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: We're not going to play the war games anymore, which

919
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: you know how expensive that is. We'll find these mess

920
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: of bombers in for practice from Guam. I said, how

921
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: far as Guam? Six and a half hours? So I said,

922
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: that's a long way for a big bomber. Times you know,

923
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: twenty and lots of other planes coming in. So we're

924
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: not going to be doing the war games as long

925
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: as we're negotiating in good faith. So that's good for

926
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: a number of reasons, in addition to which we save

927
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of money, you know those things. I

928
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: hate to sound like appear business man, but I kept saying,

929
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: what's this costing? I would look at them coming in

930
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: from the sea and bombs exploding every I said, what

931
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: does this cost? I don't even want to tell you,

932
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: but it's a lot. So we're not going to be

933
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: doing that as long as we're negotiating in good faith,

934
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: which I think we will be. You managed the expectations,

935
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: I think pretty well. You didn't think coming in here

936
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: you were going to sign an agreement, and you said

937
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: maybe it takes two, three, four or five meetings, but

938
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: you were open to going as faster as slow as

939
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: he wanted. We get along better than I would have

940
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: assumed right from the beginning. We gotta let more done

941
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,919
Speaker 1: today than I ever thought possible. And he's going back.

942
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: He's now headed back, and he I think he's going

943
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: back to get this done. He wants to get it done.

944
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: You know, you hear the whole thing about his father

945
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: and other administrations or his grandfather. The fact is that

946
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: he and he brings that up, but they weren't dealing

947
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: with me. They were dealing with different people, would have

948
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: different Nobody's ever come close to talk about the difference

949
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: between past administration in yours. Yes, but I can't say

950
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: that because I don't want to be the one saying it.

951
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: At some point, I'm sure he'll say it. But they

952
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 1: never got it done and they were never the gloves either.

953
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it was never to a point where they

954
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: were like we are. Is there is there a history

955
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: lesson to learn here? And I think in one sense

956
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:22,359
Speaker 1: we could talk about past administrations. Reagan, evil Empire. Mr

957
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: gorbuschof tear down this wall. His own advisers did wanted

958
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: to take those words out of that speech. And you

959
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: compare Bill Clinton gave Kim Jong UN's father three billion

960
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: dollars in energy subsidimendous amount of money the mos in Iran.

961
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: You have said, the worst deal in the history of mankind.

962
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: That's the worst if I've ever seen worse than NAFTA,

963
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: and I think NAFTA is pretty bad, worse than the

964
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: w t O, the World Trade Organization, which frankly built

965
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: China in addition to the money that we gave them

966
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: all the time. You know, I mean, these were terrible deals,

967
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: but I would say that the Randal was one of

968
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: the worst I've ever said. I will say speaking of

969
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: the er Indial, since we got out of that deal,

970
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: and we could do it very easily because they never

971
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: had it approved by Congress, who was just must be

972
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: approved by Congress. I wanted to be approved by Congress

973
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: because otherwise it's really doesn't mean very much. I wanted

974
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: I would think anybody would want to approved by Congress.

975
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: But since we took out of that deals, we got

976
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: out of that deal, I think Iran is a much

977
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: different place. I don't think they're looking so much to

978
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: the Mediterranean and Syria and Yemen. Uh, they're starting to

979
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: pull people out of Yemen. They're starting to pull people

980
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 1: out of Syria. You know, it's a whole different thing. Now.

981
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: I did it for nuclear but one of the side

982
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: benefits is you take a look a serious look, and

983
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: Iran is not the country that it was three or

984
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: four months ago when they were much more embold and

985
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: will certainly sanctions played a big part part the strike

986
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: forces that you send into the regional and I think

987
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: at a certain point, honestly, I know the Iranian people,

988
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: I know many people from arond These are great people.

989
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: I really believe even at some point they're going to

990
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: come back and want to negotiate a deal. Did reutification

991
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: come up? Did humanitarian issues come up in the meeting? Yes?

992
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: It did. And one of the things I will tell

993
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: you that I'm most happy about, and that as you know,

994
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: is a big sticking point, is bringing back the remains

995
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: of thousands of soldiers that were killed. This came up

996
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: last minute. This wasn't this was sort of last minute. Yea,

997
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: I said, would it be possible? Because I get letters

998
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: all the time from families who lost a son and

999
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 1: lost a brother, lost father in Korea. That was a

1000
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: rough fight and they were buried along the roadways. They

1001
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: were buried as you know, soldiers going back and forth

1002
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: into battle and they were burying them along roadways, and

1003
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: they in please, please, could you do it? I get

1004
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: so many letters from people who lost a loved one

1005
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: in in North Korea, essentially in North Korea, and I

1006
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: would say I'm going to try and I brought it up,

1007
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what, it was almost immediate. Now

1008
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: in the past there was you couldn't even talk about it.

1009
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: It was really a nice response. How quickly, um, did

1010
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: you talk about a trip to the United States? Did

1011
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: you talk about I think at the right time, he'll

1012
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: be absolutely be coming to the White House. Yeah. Look,

1013
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: we've been very it's been a very intense relationship. It's

1014
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 1: been short and very intense. And of course before that

1015
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: it was pretty rhetorical. It was, you know, not a

1016
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: pretty thing. People were very worried. But without that, I

1017
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: don't think we would have been here today. He wants

1018
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: to get something done. I want to get something done.

1019
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: I think we'll get it done. And we started off

1020
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: by really a very strong document. I think people are

1021
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: surprised to see it. This shocked to see it. And

1022
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: then add some more things that we got after that

1023
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: was signed. And so can you give us maybe a

1024
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: glimpse into what you keep sort of referring a little

1025
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 1: bit to things that will be coming. So I just

1026
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: think that we are now going to start the process

1027
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: of the nuclearization of North Korea, and I believe that

1028
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: he's going back can well started virtually immediately, and he's

1029
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: already indicated that, and you look at what he's done.

1030
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: So we got our hostages back, but they've blown up

1031
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: one of their sites, one of their testing sites, their

1032
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: primary testing site. In fact, some people say they're only

1033
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: testing site. They're getting rid of a missile, which isn't

1034
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: in the document that was done afterwards. They're getting rid

1035
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: of a missile testing site. They're doing so much now.

1036
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: So it's a process and it's it's really moving rapidly.

1037
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: Last questions, I know you have a lot to do.

1038
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: Um Obviously he wants something on his end, certainly wants

1039
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: the the world community once sanctions lifted. He wants economic

1040
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: opportunity and his people needed desperately or people starving there.

1041
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: What he wants the security, and I understand that, and

1042
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: he'll get that. And he wants to see if they

1043
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: can make that incredible location because it's incredible. It's between

1044
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: China and South kore Think of it. I'm in the

1045
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: real estate business. Think of that is prosting personally, how

1046
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: good a location is that you have China and you

1047
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: have South Korea. He's got right in the middle of

1048
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 1: both of them, surrounded by water, Okay, that's called like

1049
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: there be anything better than that. And it's also beautiful land.

1050
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: It's incredible land. I know you have a lot to do,

1051
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: Mr President. Thank congratulations, appreciate it. All right. That was

1052
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: the President right after his historic summit with Kim Jong

1053
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: un and Kim Jong Un, according to North Korea media,

1054
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 1: has now in fact accepted the President's invitation now to

1055
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: go to the United States, and obviously this continues. The

1056
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 1: President said it will be a process, and we got

1057
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: a lot more out of this summit than anybody had anticipated,

1058
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: and even the president themselves said, we don't expect us

1059
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: to sign anything. They did, and it was more comprehensive

1060
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: than anyone anticipated, in the President telling me in that

1061
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: interview that, yeah, we even agreed to more. We just

1062
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: couldn't get it into the document fast enough because they

1063
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Speaker 1: at that point, we're on a time crunch, alright, Hannity,

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Speaker 1: tonight nine Eastern Fox News, we will give you a

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Speaker 1: preview of the i G report, the fallout from this summit,

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Speaker 1: and now the new news that the the chairman is

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Speaker 1: going to be visiting the US and much more. All Right,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap things up for today, and let not

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Speaker 1: your heart be troubled, Hannity time. We're it's still in Singapore.

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Speaker 1: We want to be here for the i G Report.

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Speaker 1: In the twenty four hour flight time didn't allow for

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Speaker 1: So we are gonna stay committed to on this busy newsweek,

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Speaker 1: to bringing you the best and most comprehensive news coverage

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Speaker 1: of everything. And we've got a whole team breaking this down.

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Speaker 1: We literally are assigning pages to individuals so that we'll

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Speaker 1: have all the information you need in Eastern We'll see

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Speaker 1: it tonight. Thanks for being with us. Back here tomorrow,