1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Hello friends, and welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Baseball podcast. 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: We are back for a second edition. That's right, I'm 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Chris Welsh. You can find me on Twitter at is 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: it the Welsh and today we'll be welcoming in Chris 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Klegg from the Dynasty Dugout and the Toolshed podcast to 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: talk more about Dynasty ranks. 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: If you miss the first episode, go back and listen. 8 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: Eric Cross from the Toolshed podcast join me to talk 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: about the top twenty five. We're going twenty six to 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: fifty now with Chris Cleig here in just a minute. 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: If you guys enjoyed the first podcast and you want 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: to make sure you're notified of all the rest, make 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: sure you subscribe on your podcast feeds so you don't 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: miss any of it, and feel free to tell everybody 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: that you'll like it as well. 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Get into 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: the Draft Wizard once that opens up into the new year, 27 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: and get access to the Fantasy Pros discord that and 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: more with a premium subscription to Fantasy Pros. Make sure 29 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: you go and check that out today because you don't 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: want to be left behind. We're talking about targets, we're 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: talking about ranks. And here he is joining me for 32 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: episode two of the Dynasty podcast. He is Chris Clegg 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 1: from Dynasty. Dugout dropping some Dynasty knowledge. Mister Chris Cleig, 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: how are you, my friend. 35 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: I'm good. 36 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: I'm still tired from Arizona's I've come back to the 37 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: East coast. I still haven't called up on my sleep. 38 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 4: But it's been good. Certainly wish I was still out there. 39 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 4: You were texting me and Cross last night, some pictures 40 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: and videos from games, and it's made me a little jealous, 41 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: but it's all good, man. 42 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: It was a fun time. 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 4: It was good to see you, of course, and you 44 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 4: know I'd love to live out there and be out 45 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 4: there for all six weeks. 46 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: I think that'd be amazing. 47 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: It'd be a pretty pretty amazing. Yeah, I was. I 48 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: did text him. 49 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: I text Cleg and Cross a picture of the Damiano 50 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: Palmaziani hitting a homer, which was amazing. And we also 51 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: had a really great time on my prospect show Prospect 52 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: one where you almost got impaled by a baseball live 53 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: during the recording. So we go back and like I 54 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: said with with Cross, there's a lot of prospect talk 55 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: that goes on, but you know, you Peg have done 56 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: a very good job over time of creating a bigger 57 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: and bigger imprint in the dynasty world as far as 58 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: like what you do with Dynasty Mox and your Dynasty ranks. 59 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: So I think it's very important that we have you 60 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: here and we get to talk about this general range 61 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: because this is. 62 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: A this is a fascinating range. 63 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: And I know we're going in arbitrary chunks of like 64 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: twenty five. 65 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 2: How we're doing this. You know that top twenty. 66 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: Five is a first core, especially if you're looking at 67 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: either evaluation or you're looking at just drafting these players. 68 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 2: The players I felt, don't change too much. 69 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: You're going to have the order a little bit different 70 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: with a lot of people that rank in Dynasty, but 71 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: for the most part, it's similar ish players, and you 72 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: are going to see a similar Redraft to Dynasty rank, 73 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: with obviously some oddities in here. 74 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 2: Now we get. 75 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: Twenty six to fifty, things are opening up quite a 76 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: bit more and you're going to see usually the biggest 77 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: fallers from the top twenty five Redraft compared to Dynasty 78 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: tend to land in this general range. And the first 79 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: guy that we're going to talk about, because I think 80 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: it's ultimately polarizing, it's going to be the same way 81 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: in Redraft. I don't want to take it away from it, 82 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: but Mike Trout, you know, Mike Trout in Dynasty has 83 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: held a top twenty, you know, really a top twenty 84 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: for as long as can be. You know, you can 85 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: take away some of the excuses of his deficiencies in 86 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: Redraft and you just put it to Dynasty and go, well, 87 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: he's Mike Trout. Well, now we're in a space where 88 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: he really just doesn't Otani looks like he's gone. That 89 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: team looks like a disaster, and the injuries do kind 90 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: of continue to mount up, and I think from a 91 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: consensus standpoint, he's just not in the top twenty. I want, 92 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: I don't remember where you have him. I don't want 93 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: to be too crazy about it, but like, he's not 94 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: in the top twenty five in a lot of places, 95 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: and thirty in some places. Don't even have him inside 96 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: the top fifty. 97 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: But I think this is. 98 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: A range where Mike Trout can live. So where do 99 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: you have Mike Trout? And let's talk about him in 100 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: here as far as dynasty. 101 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, so he's a polarizing dynasty asset. And he barely 102 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: sneaks into the fifty at forty nine, which feels low, 103 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: and it feels kind of just wrong in a sense 104 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: of like this has been one of the best players 105 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: of our generation. But you mentioned some of it where 106 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: Trout's obviously dealt with injuries. This team is moving in 107 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: the wrong direction. Otani's going to be gone, Like what 108 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: does the lineup look like around Trout? I guess the 109 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 4: crazy question is could they even trade Trout? Like with 110 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: that salary, Like, is it possible that if they dumped 111 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: enough of the salary with him, could they send him 112 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 4: off somewhere? I doubt it, but you know it would 113 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: be fun to see Trout somewhere other than Los Angeles. 114 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 4: But the dynasty aspect, I mean, we are talking about 115 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: a thirty two year old who has not stayed healthy 116 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: at all in recent memory and since twenty twenty LA 117 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: the most games he's played is one hundred and nineteen. 118 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: You have to go back to twenty eighteen to actually 119 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 4: see him play one hundred and forty games. He had 120 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty four in twenty nineteen, and we 121 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: know the shortened pandemic season, he stayed healthy fifty three 122 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 4: of the sixty games. He was awesome, typical Trout. When 123 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: Trout's on the field, he is going to produce. But 124 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 4: also we're talking fantasy, we're talking dynasty. Stolen bases are 125 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: a big part of that, and we've seen those numbers 126 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: move in the wrong direction and since where he just 127 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: hasn't stolen base. I mean, you look over the last 128 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: four seasons and he's had one two, one two, So 129 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 4: that's the total of six over his last four seasons. 130 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 4: Those four seasons totally twelve hundred and forty eight played appearances. 131 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 4: So you know that shows his health alone, that he 132 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 4: just hasn't been healthy. And we've also seen some decline 133 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: in this strikeout or the strikeout rates going the wrong direction, 134 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 4: the contact rates have gone down. 135 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: Those things just aren't good to see. 136 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: And in all of this, we've seen the bag average 137 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 4: trend down from three thirty three in twenty twenty one, 138 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: two eighty three last year, and then two sixty three 139 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three, and also being a huge OVP guy, 140 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 4: that's also going in the wrong direction too. Now, this 141 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: is not to say that Trout has not played hurt. 142 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: This could have been affecting some of it, because you 143 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,559 Speaker 4: look at the underlying data, like all that's still really good, 144 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: Like he blisters baseball's like high average TV, like one 145 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: of the highest barrel rates in baseball, our hit rate, 146 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 4: like all those things are like ninety fifth percentile or 147 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 4: higher among all hitters. But strikeout rate last year was 148 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: fifteenth percentile, his contact rate was twenty six percentile. And 149 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: those just aren't typical things we see out of Mike Trout, 150 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: And so he's tough to evaluate. He's tough to really 151 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 4: get a grasp on. But you know, this is not 152 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: someone I'm really looking to invest in dynasty leagues, which 153 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: is interesting to say, but that all could change. If 154 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: Trout plays one hundred and forty games and we see 155 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 4: him go back to what we've seen in the past, 156 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 4: and that's one of the best players in the game. 157 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: But I do have my skepticism, which is why I 158 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: rank him forty ninth, and that's baking in the risk factors. 159 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a lot of people are in there. 160 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: I've got Trout right into the forties, slightly a bit 161 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: more optimistic, but at the same time, there's there's differentiating 162 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: spots here, like I think he goes higher regardless of 163 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: whoever pays attention to what ranks in a restart Fresh Dynasty, 164 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: because you're gonna have a lot of teams that are 165 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: going to be more high provis we talked about in 166 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: the last episode. You have teams that are a little 167 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: bit maybe more focused, or some teams focus on the 168 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: win now aspect. Trout just kind of kind of oozes that, 169 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: and there's a big name value to it and the 170 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: idea of like, wow, I can get Trout in the 171 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: third round. The interesting thing though, to what you said, 172 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: just quickly throwing this, if you look at like Steamer projections, 173 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if I were to two years ago said 174 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, Hey, how close or like Pee Alonso and 175 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: Mike Trout, you'd be like, man, these are like really 176 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: different guys, you know what I mean, Like I'm getting 177 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: different categories Steamer projection. They're almost for twenty twenty four, 178 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: they're almost the same player. More homers to Alonso, though 179 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: of slightly more runs to Trout and slightly more RBIs 180 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: to Alonzo, more stolen bases projected for Pee Alonzo this year, 181 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 1: and an almost eight percent lower strikeout rate Alonzo to Trout. 182 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: And he's like three and a half years or three 183 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: years younger. So from a dynasty perspective, Alonzo you would 184 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: go over. But that's kind of where we're in. But 185 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: from a draft win Now perspective, it is kind of 186 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: tantalizing because you know what could be. But there's like 187 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: a million reasons that you can put. This is worrisome, 188 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: This is worrisome, This is worrisome. He's a very polarizing 189 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: figure in the dynasty world. Also a polarizing figure. Now 190 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: we didn't talk about him in the other episode, and 191 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: he probably deserved to be. This is interesting because he 192 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: is in your twenty six to fifty range. Vladimir Guerrero 193 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: Junior we did not talk about in the top twenty 194 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: five episode. I think he could float between this area. 195 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: I do think he sits. His age is one of 196 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: the slight things that can get him in as like 197 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: a top fifteen guy. His production versus production around him 198 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: might put him closer from that twenty five to thirty 199 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: five range. And as I said, I don't know if 200 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: I think you were there, but I said it during 201 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: the Rates and Barrels Live podcast. At first pitch I said, 202 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: or maybe no, it was actually during the CBS one 203 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: I said, whatever vlad did this year, I will bet 204 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: you that his projection when it comes out, because it 205 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 1: hadn't come out yet, every category will look higher than 206 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: what he produced based on underlying expected batting average, just 207 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: everything that he had going. The underlying stats were in 208 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: favor of him. But he's a polarizing dynasty guy as well. 209 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: He's way younger than Trout, but not as people seem 210 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: excited about him. So where do you have Vladimir Gerviginian. 211 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: Do you think he belongs in this twenty six to 212 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: fifty range. 213 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 3: I do. 214 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: I've got him just outside of the top twenty five. 215 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 4: He comes in at twenty six for me. Overall, and 216 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 4: you know, it's a tough spot. He's a tough rank 217 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: because we look and outside of the one really elite 218 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: season in which he played a large portion of his 219 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 4: games in like small minor league parks, he's been good 220 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 4: but not elite. I mean, Vlad is kind of the 221 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 4: opposite trout and that he's on the field every single day. 222 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: You look at his games played the last four years. 223 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 4: Every game in twenty twenty lay one hundred and sixty one. 224 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty one won sixty and twenty twenty two 225 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 4: and one fifty six and twenty twenty three. So he's 226 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: been a compiler almost and this year only twenty six 227 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 4: home runs and last year he had over seven hundred 228 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 4: play appearance just thirty two home runs, which is interesting 229 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 4: to see. And so it's been a far cry of 230 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 4: the player that he is he was in twenty twenty one. 231 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 4: But I do wonder how much those minor league parks 232 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 4: were really boosting them, because under the hood, a lot 233 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: of stuff is very similar. And this is not to 234 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 4: say that Vlad's not a good player at all, because 235 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 4: you look and across the board, like he does everything 236 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 4: you want. He gets the ball hard, he makes a 237 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 4: lot of contact, he doesn't strike out, but we have 238 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: seen some of the flaws in the sense of, you know, 239 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 4: it's always kind of been the knock that he hits 240 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: the ball in the ground too much, and in twenty 241 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 4: twenty one he cut that pretty significantly, which was a 242 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: large part of him ultimately seeing those home run games. 243 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: So the launch angle was the best it was in 244 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 4: tweeny twenty one, and actually if you look at his 245 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 4: average launch angle this season was actually higher, but there 246 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 4: were more inconsistencies with some you know, pop ups and 247 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: fly balls, and so average launch angle is not always 248 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: the best thing to use when we're looking at this stuff. 249 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: Because Vlad had a twelve percent INFI of fly ball rate, 250 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: which is really high, kept the ball on the ground 251 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 4: at a forty over forty six percent clip and so, 252 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 4: you know, while he hits the ball hard, while he 253 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: does a lot of things, well, there are some still 254 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: some concerns and like you're right, like the Steamer projection 255 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 4: is very optimistic. The Steamer projection is better than any 256 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 4: season that he's had other than twenty twenty one, coming 257 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 4: in with yeah, thirty six home runs, seven stolen bases. 258 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: He stole more than seven bases just once. He said 259 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 4: more than thirty six home runs just once. He said 260 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 4: above two eighty five, just once. And all those things 261 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 4: happen in twenty twenty one. Minus the stolen bases, He's 262 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: still eight last season. Again, you know, Lad's not going 263 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 4: to be a huge base dealer, but he's going to 264 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 4: be in that five to seven range most likely. 265 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, very optimistic projection. 266 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 4: I'm not sure I'm quite there, but I will say 267 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 4: it's in the range of possibility, which is why I 268 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 4: have kept him in this rank spot because age, underlying data, 269 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 4: and the consistent performance. 270 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: At least with the elite outlier. 271 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 272 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: And it's funny that when you do this long enough, 273 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: and maybe everybody can do it, but you do this 274 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: long enough, you can stare at underlying numbers, not the 275 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: surface numbers, and you can just be like, oh, I 276 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: know what project I know what projections are going to 277 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: throw out, Like I know they're going to be better 278 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: or I know they're going to be worse. Just starting 279 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: off seeing you know hard hit barrel, how those average 280 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: from or how those deviate from normal years expected batting 281 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: average Another big one, and Vlad is it's Boilory, I 282 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: have him as a top fifteen guy. But you know, 283 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: the last quick thing on this, and I think I'll 284 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: know your answer to this. There was a time where 285 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: the debate between Jordan Alvarez in Vlad was very big 286 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: in Dynasty, and it. 287 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: Was always Vlad. It was close, but it was always Vlad. 288 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: Not only do I think it's your Nalvarez now, but 289 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: I think you would agree it's a tier different. 290 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: They don't. They're not in the same tier anymore. 291 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, they are different tiers. For me, I have Jordon 292 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: coming in at tenth overall, so it's a pretty uh 293 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 4: decent gap between them. And that's not to say it's 294 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: a huge gap, but it is a tiered gap for sure. 295 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: Like you know, I've got Jorum firmly in tier two, 296 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 4: like the back end of tier two, and Vlad actually 297 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 4: comes in towards the top. 298 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: Of tier four. 299 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 4: So a little bit of a gap, but I don't 300 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 4: think it's that far off, and you know, Vlad can 301 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 4: certainly push himself back into that conversation. 302 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 3: I believe let's do a couple. 303 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: Debates here on some twenty six to fifty players. I 304 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: think these are these might be difficult for some, maybe 305 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: not for all. Let's start with another bolarizing. 306 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 2: Player, Bobaschet. 307 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: Bobachet was a consensus top ten guy for many people. 308 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: I think a lot of that has changed off of 309 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: what happened this past year versus what I think might 310 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: be one of the sneakiest of the Dynasty players out 311 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: here in my mind, because I think I probably have 312 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: him ranked. I haven't got to see what everybody has 313 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: as far as their Dynasty ranks go. I think I'm 314 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: probably going to have him higher than most. In onell cruse. 315 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: Actually I'm just looking, I see yours. You're right there 316 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: with me. You and I might be the high guys 317 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Boba Schett versus on'yll Cruz in Dynasty. In this general range, 318 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: who you got and what's the rank the rank range 319 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: for these two. 320 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still a pretty decent gap between them. 321 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: For me, I've got Bashett twenty one, which you know 322 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: we're talking twenty six to fifty. I know he's not there, 323 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 4: but I think most will have him in that range. 324 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 4: Ahith O'Neil Cruz does come in much lower at forty five, 325 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 4: say much lower, but still a solid rank of him. 326 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: But sheet's been like I think sneaky's the good word 327 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: to put it. He hasn't been super flashy, which has 328 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 4: caused people to kind of come off of him some. 329 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: I think that twenty twenty one season again same team 330 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 4: as Black, we're in some minor league parks, twenty nine 331 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: home runs. 332 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: He's been over twenty home runs every season since. 333 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: But he hasn't stolen bases like he's stole twenty five 334 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: and twenty twenty one. So you had a twenty five 335 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 4: to twenty five guy, almost a thirty twenty five guy. 336 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty two he hit twenty four home runs 337 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 4: stole thirteen bases, and this year was just twenty home 338 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 4: runs and five stolen bases. But I will say there's 339 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: a caveat there. Those two seasons before were six hundred 340 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 4: and ninety and six hundred and nine seven played appearances, 341 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 4: while this one was six hundred and one in twenty 342 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 4: twenty three. So pretty much the same player that he's been. 343 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 4: He's a lot for batting average, about as safe as 344 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 4: you can get there. 345 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: He hit three zero six this year. He's a two 346 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: ninety nine career hitter in the majors. 347 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: There's a lot of value to be had there just 348 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 4: with the bagging average boost that you get. I mean, 349 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: his contact rates are super high end and while he's 350 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: aggressive and chases, he makes it work while still hitting 351 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: the ball hard. Like you look at the underlying data, 352 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: it's like okay, like you know, this guy does some 353 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: damage when he wants to. So ultimately, with Bashett, I 354 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 4: think you're just looking at the safety that you have, 355 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: like he's a safe bet to give you twenty home 356 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 4: runs and close to a three hundred average, which has 357 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 4: pretty good value. And I'd say even twenty five home runs. 358 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 4: He was pacing for that this season before you need 359 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 4: miss some time with injury. But ultimately, you know what 360 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 4: it comes down to for Bashett is that he's proved 361 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 4: it every year. 362 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: With Cruz, we have not seen the consistent performance. 363 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 4: Botus has to lift the ball a little more and 364 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 4: get to those that home run power, which he's capable 365 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: of doing because the underlying data certainly supports that he 366 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: could hit twenty five to thirty home runs every season. Now, 367 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 4: Cruz has the upside, like there's no doubt in my 368 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 4: mind that O'Neil Cruz could end up being a first 369 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 4: round caliber player. But for one we haven't seen him 370 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: do it, and two the injuries have obviously been a 371 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 4: thing in the body. Is just you know, that frame 372 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 4: has its concerns of us own. So you know, I 373 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: think there's forty home run pop here, Like he certainly 374 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 4: hits the ball hard enough to prove that if he 375 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 4: gets to all of it. The speed, Like, does the 376 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: speed tick down over time? Like I'd say you're looking 377 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 4: at probably like at least a twenty twenty guy if 378 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 4: he's healthy, with room for a lot more power. 379 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: But where's the average fall? 380 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 4: I guess that's kind of the question we have to answer, 381 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 4: is like, you know, what do we expect out of 382 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 4: him bag average wise? 383 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 3: Like is it two fifty or below? And that's highly possible. 384 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: And Steamer's pretty optimistic with having him at twenty seven 385 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: home ers, twenty two stolen bases and at two fifty 386 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: one average if he plays a full season, if he 387 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 4: gives you six hundred and forty played appearances like they project, 388 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 4: I think that's a reasonable outcome. But Bo just feels 389 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: much safer, and he's done it year over year, which 390 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 4: is why I have that gap between them. 391 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very different players, and it's very different dynasty approach. 392 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if the upside exists anymore with Boba 393 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: shit the ceiling. I shouldn't say upside. There's upside, but 394 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: like the sky high ceiling, it's like it's mid twenties power, 395 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: it's really good batting average, it's solid. I mean, this 396 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: is a great players really but O'Neal Cruz, there is 397 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: the dream on forty twenty, on thirty thirty, all of 398 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: those things. 399 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 2: The upside is there. 400 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: The age works in favor of Oneal Cruz. It really 401 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: is going to be kind of about a team approach 402 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: for a lot of people, you know, And if you 403 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: were to take a riskier first round type of guy 404 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: and you're still wanting to compete in a first year, 405 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: then you know, Onell Cruz might might not be that 406 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: general space. 407 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: What I do think is interesting not. 408 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: To talk about it, but like we talked about daily 409 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: Cruz in the last one, you have Cruise and Ellie closer, 410 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: and I think that is closer to the right approach. 411 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: I have seen big gaps. 412 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: Between those two and like, if you can dream on Ellie, 413 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: I think you should dream on O'Neal Cruz. And projections 414 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: are quite in favor of onneal Cruz to be a 415 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: similar producer of Elie, and we have seen ONeill drop 416 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: strikeout raids. We've actually seen We've seen him, even if 417 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: it's a small period of time, put up some of 418 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: the things we need for him to be a better player. 419 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: We haven't quite seen that with l you haven't seen 420 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: him make the turn yet. I just think those those 421 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: are polarizing players in there. If you want to play 422 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: for the moon, if you want to play for future years, 423 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: I want to buy Oneio Cruz right now. Bobashet definitely 424 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: places you in a good spot for winning now another one. 425 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: I think these players are two of the talk of 426 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: the towns for Dynasty and for Redraft this year we're 427 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: gonna go CJ Abrams versus Royce Lewis. Both of these 428 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: guys I think sit kind of in the same space. 429 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: What's very funny if you paid attention to Dynasty ranks 430 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: over time, they probably were near where they are now. 431 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: But they both plummeted after you know, injuries for Royce 432 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: and production issues for CJ. And then they've come back 433 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: to it. You know, they're rolling chart of rank value 434 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: has probably just got them back to the same spot. 435 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: So you got to pick one of these guys. 436 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: We've seen prolific power and the hit tool with Royce, 437 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: and we saw an insane breakout for Abrams who became 438 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: an elite or fantasy player. What side on Dynasty do 439 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: you want to sit on. 440 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 4: I've got him back to back in the rankings, but 441 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: that kind of bakes in some of the risk factor 442 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 4: for Royce with the injuries. 443 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 3: So if I'm just if I'm drafting like I'm probably. 444 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 4: And I'm looking for upside, I'm going with Royce Lewis, 445 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: But I feel like Abrams is a little bit of 446 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: a safer play, and safer is an interesting word considering 447 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: what we had seen out of him prior to the season. 448 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 4: But the guy was just special in the second half 449 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 4: with what he did and how he really turned on 450 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 4: the Jets and took off, and you look, he cut 451 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 4: the k rate more contact. Like, we know that Abrams 452 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 4: is an elite stolen base asset, and from July first 453 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 4: all he hit eleven home runs and stole thirty eight bases, 454 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 4: only caught twice forty attempts. 455 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 3: That's pretty awesome to see. 456 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 4: And you know, the slash line leaves some things to 457 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 4: be desired of two fifty seven three eighteen four thirty three, 458 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 4: but Abrams pretty good all season the year with eighteen 459 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: home runs forty seven stolen Bay says Steamer's projection comes 460 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 4: in about like you would expect the batting average to 461 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: being a little higher, considering he's never hit over two 462 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 4: forty six in the majors. Somehow came in at to sixty, 463 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 4: which is interesting, but you know, there's other factors in that. 464 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 4: I'd expect Abrams to be a solid power speed source 465 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: with a questionable batting average just not say questionable, but 466 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 4: two fifty two to sixty range. But I think Royce 467 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: Lewis has the upside to be like a first round 468 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 4: caliber player, and when he was healthy, we saw that, 469 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 4: like we saw what. 470 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: He could do. 471 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: But again, he cannot stay healthy, and that's really the 472 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: biggest thing, and that's a risk factor you're taking on 473 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 4: with Lewis, So you have those question marks. I think 474 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: Royce could could be a thirty home run, fifteen to 475 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 4: twenty stolen based guy with a two eighty two ninety average, 476 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 4: but he's got to stay healthy and that's the biggest factor. 477 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: Yep, and I love it. 478 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm'm these are two major targets twenty six to fifty 479 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: in dying. That's the one way I would put it. 480 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: If you're looking, these are two guys that you want, 481 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: and if you're already in leagues where people are not 482 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: value in this top fifty, go and get them. If 483 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: you're in drafts, be ready to pay a little bit 484 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: of pitching talk here. 485 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: Dynasty in pitching sometimes don't go together. 486 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: This is my number three Dynasty pitcher, and I think 487 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: there are some arguments. 488 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 2: That could be number one. George Kirby. 489 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: I'm very much in on George Kirby. There was this 490 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: fun question we had at first pitch about, you know, 491 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: who's the best pitcher in the world that wasn't Spencer's. 492 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: It was this all Spencer Strider conversation where I think 493 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: a DVR was kind of deviating from you know, some 494 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: of the two pitch stuff with Strider blah blah blah, 495 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: and it was like, if it's a non Strider guy, 496 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: who is it? And we kind of went back and 497 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: forth and I kind of settled on I wanted to 498 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: say Kirby, and I am very high on Kirby and 499 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: Dynasty for his ability to minimize walks to up his 500 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: case to go deep into games. I love George Kirby 501 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: and he is one of only three pitchers I have 502 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: in my top thirty. 503 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: Talk to us about George Kirby. Does he sit in 504 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: this range for you? How high do you have him 505 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: in dynasty? 506 00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 3: He does. 507 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 4: He's only in like tier two of arms, Like I've 508 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: got the Strider and Cole up there in tier one 509 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 4: and then you go to step down. It's like your 510 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 4: gallon Uri Perez. George Kirby's because the consistency. You obviously 511 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 4: want to see him strike out more guys, but two 512 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 4: to walk nineteen batters in one hundred and ninety eight, Yeah, 513 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: he hit a two point five percent of walk. Great, 514 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 4: that is unheard of. Lake Snell probably did that in 515 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: like two games. Yeah, oh yeah, one hundred percent. He 516 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 4: walked nineteen batters in two miles. So you'd like to 517 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 4: see the strike out rate be above twenty three percent. Obviously, 518 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 4: if he can live in a higher range, that'd be great. 519 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 4: Who cares because you're getting such an elite whip in 520 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 4: ratios like the era is always going to be in 521 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 4: the low threes. It seems had a one oh four whip, 522 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 4: which is huge like for ratio value, and the strikeouts 523 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 4: are good enough, but they don't hurt you. And I 524 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 4: still believe that there's more in the tank for Kirby 525 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 4: when we're talking about strikeouts. He's twenty five, like he's 526 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 4: got a good arsenal, and I believe there's a chance 527 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 4: to see some of the stuff tick up a little bit. 528 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 4: Where you know, he threw that splitter more this year 529 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 4: and it had a thirty five percent with rate. 530 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 3: They're almost thirty six percent with rate. 531 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: Didn't Logan Gilbert do the same thing? Did they work 532 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 1: on those together? I think they worked on those together 533 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: because those two are just crazy crazy. I mean like 534 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: there's some of the most I've been on the backfields 535 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: of the Mariners so much, and I've noted to many 536 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: people Logan Gilbert's the hardest working pitcher I've ever seen 537 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: in my life. He's the last guy out, he's one 538 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: of the first guys in. He's just that type of guy. 539 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: And they, Yeah, I would love to have known the 540 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: inner workings of how they added those together. 541 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: It's right, yeah. 542 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 4: And in the movement profile on the breaking pitches with 543 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: Kirby suggests that they should get more whiffs than they 544 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: do actually, because you know, both those pitches are well 545 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: above average movement wise, So I'll be intrigued to see 546 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 4: because again, a young guy that has this kind of 547 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 4: arsenal and command, like, we should certainly believe that there's 548 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 4: more in the tank. So Kirby, Yeah, I'm I'm pretty 549 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 4: on board with him and that this range. Like, I 550 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 4: think there's an argument just because of how consistent he's 551 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: been that he could be in this top tier and 552 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: it went prize me if he made that jump next season. 553 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got all the making. There's no such thing 554 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 2: as like a safe pitcher. 555 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: But you know, when you start to look at like 556 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: who are the guys if you're gonna invest early on 557 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: because you know, I will say one thing, Dynasty pitching 558 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: gets made, like, oh you know, Dynasty, it's the last 559 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: thing that you want to do, and blah blah blah. 560 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: You want to know what the hardest thing in Dynasty is. 561 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: In the leagues, I plan, getting pitching. Pitching is so difficult. 562 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: You have to pay up people hoard it because we 563 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,239 Speaker 1: know where it goes. And at the end of the day, like, 564 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: there is no such as a safe thing. 565 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 2: But George Kirby. 566 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: Has that bottom that you that you'd be willing to 567 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: invest in with the potential upside into the future. You 568 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: mentioned two other guys. I think these are the most 569 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: intriguing pitchers in this range. Uri Perez and Zach Gallen. 570 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: Let's verse them against each other Gallon versus Eury Perez 571 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: in Dynasty. For you, Let's say, you know, fifteen team startup, 572 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: you are going into the fourth round and you got 573 00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: a choice, and you say, hey, I want to invest 574 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: in some pitch. What this would be like an early 575 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: fourth round? I guess maybe like mid third round or 576 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: something like that. But you know where I'm going with it, 577 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: and you want to get in on the pitching market. 578 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: Uri pras Zach Allen the young up and coming ace 579 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: or the NR face ace. 580 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 4: Now, yeah, it's really hard for me not to take Uri, 581 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: even though I've gotten ranked side by side, just because 582 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 4: of the upside. It's so tremendous, Like Uri could easily 583 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 4: be the Dynasty sp one. And I don't think there's 584 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 4: anybody that's out here questioning that. I mean, you're looking 585 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: at fastball that's, you know, high nineties, like he set 586 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 4: near ninety eight last season, puts away a ton of 587 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 4: batters where it gets with just a lot of ride 588 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 4: up in this hole, and the secondaries are so absurd 589 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: when you look at the slider in the curve, they 590 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 4: had with rates respectively of forty eight percent and fifty 591 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 4: four percent, which is just wild to see. And then 592 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 4: you factor in the change up too. While he only 593 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 4: threw it, let's see ten percent of the time, I'm 594 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 4: still a serviceable use rate. He had forty six percent 595 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 4: with rate with that pitch as well, and he throws 596 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 4: all four pitches to both sides. You'll see some guys 597 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 4: that show up with four pitches and they're throwing them, 598 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 4: you know, two to each hand right he's and lefties. 599 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 4: But with Uri stowed them to both handed hitters and 600 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 4: getting results with both. So you know, URI's arsenal is 601 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 4: so intriguing and so good. But you have the track 602 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 4: record with Gallen and you feel a little bit safer 603 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 4: with Zach Gallen as well. 604 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 3: He's an innings eter. 605 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,959 Speaker 4: He through two hundred ten innings this year at three 606 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: four seven ERA, which is really good. Yeah, twenty six 607 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 4: percent strikeout rate, but the wall crate is trended downward 608 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 4: every season, down below six percent. 609 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: This year, which is huge. So Gallen does a lot 610 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: of things well too. He is just twenty. 611 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 4: He just turned twenty eight years old, so we're not 612 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 4: talking about an old pitcher by any means. But I 613 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 4: think when you're drafting here and you're looking at the 614 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 4: potential upside, I'd have a hard time not taking Yuri. 615 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 4: But Gallen is the safer pick. I think in this range. 616 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: The constant battle of the drafting in dynasty of Saye 617 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: versus upside, the now production versus what I can have 618 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: in the future, it will always be in your brain 619 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: and you've got to battle that, all right. 620 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: A couple quick. 621 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: Hitting last things here, prospects twenty six to fifty. We 622 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: did talk about at least one prospect very minimally that 623 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: made that top twenty five, but I do think there's 624 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: two or three that can touch the top twenty five. 625 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: But this is a much more prime range where the 626 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: top guys are gonna go. So what prospects for you? 627 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: Maybe all of them hit twenty six to fifty. 628 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so all of my top four makes in here, 629 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 4: leading with Junior Camin Arrow and why at Langford. Just 630 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: proximity puts them kind of a tier above and for 631 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 4: prospect rankings, I think these guys are all similar tier 632 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 4: before I'm gonna talk about, but proximity of the fact 633 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 4: that Cam and Arrow's debuted we saw and perform in 634 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 4: the majors, and Blankford, I want to be surprised if 635 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 4: he's in the majors, like as soon as opening day. 636 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 4: He was on with the Taxi Squad and Frisco during 637 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 4: the World Series and they were highly considering calling him 638 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 4: up like, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's up. 639 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: On opening Day. Both these guys are elite. 640 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: Those guys rank thirty two and thirty three respectively, and 641 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 4: you drop down a forty three and forty four, and 642 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 4: I have Jackson Holliday and Jackson Surio, both those guys 643 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 4: same tier prospect, But I think those guys probably look 644 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 4: at closer to mid season and it would't surprise me. 645 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 4: The Oils have been pretty hyper aggressive with Holiday Surio. 646 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 4: They both reached Triple A at the end of the year, 647 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 4: so they could be up sooner than expected. But right now, 648 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 4: just the proximity factor and you'll get contribution right of 649 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 4: the gate. I believe from Canada, Aaron Langford puts them 650 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 4: there yeah, both. All these four are stud prospects, and 651 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 4: I think these are kind of you like, you can't 652 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 4: miss guys and belong. 653 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: They belong in the top fifty. 654 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 4: And I don't say that about a lot of prospects, 655 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: but these four feel pretty safe and have a ton 656 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: of upside. 657 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: YEP, I have all four of these in here, the 658 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: only edition that's right there. But I I might be 659 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: in my own camp is I love Dylan Cruz. I 660 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: got Dylan Cruz right on the fringe. I think I 661 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: might have like forty nine, Yeah, forty nine. He's just 662 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: one of those guys I think the floor for Like 663 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: we talked about a lot of upside on prospects, but 664 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: I think Dylan Cruz exhibits an insane floor of a 665 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: player that maybe is like always a dynasty like thirty 666 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: overall guy and kind of like what we said with Bobashet, 667 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: I think it's similar, like hey, he could run some 668 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: maybe not as much the powers they are good batting 669 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: average runs are. That's like who I think Dylan Cruz is, 670 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 1: and I think he is close as well. It's just 671 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: kind of dependent on the development. But all those guys 672 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: they sit in there in just different orders last two targets. 673 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: Pick two guys obviously, maybe not like twenty six and 674 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: twenty seven overall in your ranks, but two guys in 675 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: this twenty six to fifty range in whatever type of 676 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's like, hey, this guy in the thirties, 677 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: this guy in the forties, but two guys that you 678 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: would really really. 679 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: Try to hone in on in dynasty. 680 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 4: So it's tough, depending because this range has a variety 681 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 4: of player types and depending on bills where you have 682 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 4: your older guys like I've got Simeon Altuve in the 683 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: back range that feel safe for a continuing team right 684 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 4: out of the gate. But I think, like if I'm 685 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: looking to target somebody like via trade or even in 686 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 4: a startup, like I honestly think many Machado is a 687 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 4: pretty good target. He's fallen down a lot, and I've 688 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 4: been kind of surprised with how late he's going in 689 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 4: redraft leagues, Like in the early NFBC leagues. He's went 690 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 4: so late, like I've seen him go like pick ninety 691 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 4: six or something like that. 692 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 3: It's kind of wild to see. 693 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 4: So I think Machado kind of could be a good 694 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 4: trade target. And I think Jordan Walker is still a 695 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 4: good draft and trade target as well. Everybody kind of 696 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 4: craps on Walker season. The dude was still really good. 697 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 4: I think the expectations were just through the roof, and 698 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 4: Walker was twenty to start the season young twenty one. 699 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 4: I think Walker's an investment. I also think Grayson Rodriguez 700 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 4: is a good target and investment in this range, but 701 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: you might actually be able to get cheaper where. I 702 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 4: think Rodriguez towards the end of season that he looked 703 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 4: back to his ACE levels and everything looked really good there. 704 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 4: So those are just a couple of players that I'm 705 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 4: kind of targeting. I think O'Neil Cruz might be a 706 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: guitarget too, just because you know, it depends on where 707 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 4: he's valued by other people in your league. But with 708 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 4: the injury, it seems like his value was depressed a 709 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 4: little bit, and so I am taking my chances on 710 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 4: Cruise if I can get him at the right cost, 711 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 4: because I think the upside is there. 712 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 713 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: I love those names, and we heard we heard cross 714 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: mention Jordan Walker as well, So a couple of holdovers 715 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: we're getting. The last thing is who just missed? That 716 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: hurts that you want to get in there. A guy 717 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: just to didn't get the top fifty that you kind 718 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: of think about, maybe keeps you up at night. 719 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: He just missed top fifty guy. 720 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, there were some Well I had Kirby just outside, 721 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 4: so that one's obviously tough. I think he could push 722 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 4: into that range. When we discussed him some other interesting names. 723 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 4: Looking at it, man, Evan Carter's. 724 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 3: Bumped up a lot. 725 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 4: I don't want to overreact to his performance, but how 726 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 4: legit is Evan Carter? If he continues to perform at 727 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 4: this level, I think he pushes in. I've got him 728 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: closer to seventy five right now. 729 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,479 Speaker 1: I have him at seventy six at this at this 730 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: moment we're talking, I'm still going through I haven't met 731 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: That's funny you say that seventy six for me. 732 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and a couple arms that I think, with health 733 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 4: could push back up or Freddy Peralta and Tyler Glass 734 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 4: Now Glass now is like a scary one for me. 735 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 4: But you look at the performance in the second half 736 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 4: and it was insane and really the whole season, and 737 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 4: Freddy Praulta bounced back in a massive way, and you 738 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 4: look at the overall line three eight six e R. 739 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 4: But I don't think people paid attention to really how 740 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 4: good he was when he got going in that second 741 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 4: half and even dating back to some June dates. But 742 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 4: if we look just at the second half, his numbers 743 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 4: were absurd. After the All Star break, A two eight 744 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 4: one era struck out one hundred and three batters in 745 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 4: seventy three innings, and his fifth and x FIP were 746 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 4: both sub three, which is. 747 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 3: Encouraging to see. The wall crate was way down. 748 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 4: Like par Alta is an investment for me that I 749 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: I want to make that I think he could push 750 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,280 Speaker 4: into that second tier of starting pitchers and Dynasty ranks. 751 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: Rode O Clegg that's the Twitter where you can find him. 752 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: You can hear him on the tool Shed podcast with 753 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: our first guests Aaron Cross, and of course find him 754 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: at Dynasty Dugout. G give everybody a little plug on 755 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: where they can find Dynasty Dugout and anything else you 756 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: got going on Cleg. 757 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, so pretty much all my works there at this point. 758 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 4: I've got all the rankings pretty much updated for the offseason. 759 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: I've got the top five hundred Dynasty for average OBP. 760 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 4: You've got top top six hundred Prospects Top two hundred 761 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 4: FYPD working going through just writing up every player at 762 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 4: this point, going team by team right now doing team 763 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 4: top thirty, so I've completed the NL East at this point. 764 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 4: It's going division by division, so those will kind of 765 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 4: form a huge prospect list overall with ride ups and 766 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 4: I've got right ups on all the FYPD guys as well, 767 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 4: So if you want to check that out, you can 768 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 4: check it out at the Dynasty dugout dot com. Find 769 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 4: all the work on x I guess we can say 770 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 4: formerly Twitter, rodocleg. Everything's pretty much there. 771 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: And there you go. 772 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: That is the episode, even on a holiday week as 773 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: we're recording this. Hopefully you guys have a fantastic Thanksgiving 774 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 1: and thank you for spending some of that pre holiday 775 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: or maybe during the holiday time with me talking about 776 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: some Dynasty baseball because we've got so much more to cover. 777 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: Go back and listen to episode one with air Cross 778 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: if you want to catch up, because next week joining 779 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: me to talk fifty one through one hundred is Jesse 780 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: Severe from Dynasty Sports Life, a good friend of mine, 781 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: a fantastic Dynasty player that's gonna be when you're not 782 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna want to miss. As we are getting deeper into 783 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: the dynasty ranks and targets for guys that you are 784 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: going to want, make sure you go to Fantasy Pros 785 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: today not only to start your Fantasy baseball process for 786 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four season, but to also get access 787 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: to the premium products in twenty twenty four that are 788 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: going to make you a better fantasy player. So go 789 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: and check them out today at Fantasypros dot com. Subscribe 790 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: to the podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. You can 791 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at is it the Welsh If 792 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: you got Dynasty questions. We will be doing some listener 793 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: based episodes coming in the near future, but you can 794 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: find me there if you want to chat in the meantime. 795 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for hanging out and I'll 796 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: talk to you next time right here on the Fantasy 797 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: Pros Dynasty Baseball Podcast. 798 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 4: Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Baseball Podcast. 799 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 3: If you love the show, the best freeway to support 800 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 3: us is by leaving 801 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 4: A positive review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, Follow us 802 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 4: on x, Instagram and TikTok at Fantasy Pros at Subscribe 803 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: to our YouTube channel at YouTube dot com Slash Fantasy 804 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 4: Pros MLB