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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the Sticks on a Monday, DJ,

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Speaker 1: Bucky Rhett back with you guys, and man, that was interesting.

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Speaker 1: That was an interesting weekend of football, some wild games.

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Speaker 1: We have a chance to break down the college stuff

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Speaker 1: later on in the week, but it is a Monday,

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Speaker 1: and I don't even Like a lot of times, I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: we are starting here, Buck, I don't even know where

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Speaker 1: to start today because so much craziness it took place,

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Speaker 1: right I mean, you guys, I don't know where to start.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: So I was on Game Day Highlights and Game Day

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Speaker 2: Final last night and it was pretty clear we're going

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Speaker 2: to start with the team to score ten touchdowns, and

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Speaker 2: so I am. I'm pretty excited that Bucky's going to

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Speaker 2: break down each and every one of those touchdowns for

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Speaker 2: us here on this podcast.

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Speaker 3: And I think we'll get to the other fifteen games tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: So it's so unbelievable that a team can score seventy

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Speaker 4: points in the NFL game, and I've been the high

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Speaker 4: school games and I can't imagine people scoring seventy points

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Speaker 4: like you almost have to in a high school game.

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Speaker 4: You have to not try to let someone score it

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Speaker 4: like seventy points. It's really it has to be either

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Speaker 4: that big of a mismatch or your team just has

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Speaker 4: to pack it in. To give up ten touchdowns in

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Speaker 4: an NFL game while scoring twenty points three.

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Speaker 1: P fifty on the ground, buck three and behind fifty

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Speaker 5: I just don't understand.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, I'll say this, if you're Mike mc daniels,

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Speaker 4: this is the offense that everyone has been afraid of.

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Speaker 4: I mean, when you look at that tape and you

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Speaker 4: watch this team go up and down the field, you

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Speaker 4: look at the track stars that they have.

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Speaker 5: And keep in mind they didn't have Jaden model.

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Speaker 4: But that's okay, Devin, A chain of just coming there

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Speaker 4: and I'll show you that I am also a track star,

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Speaker 4: and I'll run for two hundred yards and I'll put

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Speaker 4: it in the paint from anywhere on the field, and.

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Speaker 5: Tua, don't worry about it, Tua, we can run it.

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Speaker 4: But we're still gonna let you get your throws in

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Speaker 4: and let you make sure that you're a fantasy legend.

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Speaker 4: I mean, this is an unbelievable performance from an offense

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Speaker 4: that we knew they had firepower. But I'm sure that

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Speaker 4: every defensive coordinating the league is going to take a

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Speaker 4: look at the take and be like, what in the world, Like,

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Speaker 4: how do you handle it? And before I didn't want

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Speaker 4: to say I dismissed the Dolphins. I thought their offense

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Speaker 4: was like cute and those things. But now I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I mean, can you really ride the offense like they're

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Speaker 4: riding it and make a big run and big Fangio

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Speaker 4: is everything to that defense. You now have a high

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Speaker 4: and now he only has to hold serve.

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Speaker 5: They're a dangerous team. They're a very dangerous team, I.

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Speaker 1: Think, I think, and and we'll go through all these games.

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Speaker 1: We'll get there in a minute. I think they're the

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Speaker 1: best team in the AFC right now based off what

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Speaker 1: they've shown through three games, two on the road. Then

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Speaker 1: they come back and just demolish the Broncos. I will

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Speaker 1: say one thing and then we'll jump into these But Ratt,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever you ever had just

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Speaker 1: a terrible day at work, you know, and you call

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Speaker 1: you just go, guys, it's just been a terrible day.

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Speaker 1: And then you get home and she's made your favorite dinner,

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Speaker 1: up and ready to go. I wonder if Nathaniel Hackett

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Speaker 1: little bit. That's that's what I want to see when

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Speaker 1: don't know what to say about that one training. I mean,

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Speaker 1: probably probably in the rule book why you don't trash

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Speaker 4: Football commerce certainly came back to get u Sean Payne,

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Speaker 2: Or you were just setting this up, right you were

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Speaker 1: But I didn't do it. I have to go back

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Speaker 1: through the game logs, but I don't remember them giving

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Speaker 1: up seventy points last year. Seventy I mean, but seven

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Speaker 2: We're the three games in and by the way, the

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Speaker 3: Anyone WHOA yeah? Like no, and I wouldn't announce that

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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, that's well. This is why this week is

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Speaker 1: so bonkers, because we've got our rundown and we haven't

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get started. Let's go to the games

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Speaker 1: that uh the Buck and I were at. We'll start

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Speaker 1: with the Chargers Vikings game. I joke with you guys,

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Speaker 1: every week I've never called I've been doing these games

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Speaker 1: Last thing I'll say, I'll kick it over to Red

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Speaker 1: twoy Polo two from out of sc He was awesome.

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Speaker 2: I love getting those little rookie reports, you know, on

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Speaker 3: Here's what I'll say on the coaching decision.

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Speaker 2: If there was anybody, and I'm gonna talk directly into

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Speaker 3: Move from a head coach that day.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know, you could certainly take some issue with

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Speaker 2: go for it right each time you're gonna hit you know,

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Speaker 2: twelve versus two, you have to do it every time.

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Speaker 3: You don't just pick it along.

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Speaker 1: As long as you're not on an NFL business related trip,

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Speaker 1: then you don't go in there because we don't know.

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Speaker 2: We're just talking generalities here, we're just talking general talking strategy.

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Speaker 3: But let me ask you this first.

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Speaker 2: And then you can you can get in on the

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Speaker 2: difficult is it for a defensive coordinator to mid stream

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Speaker 2: Everybody's making adjustments, But if you have game planned, and

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Speaker 3: Of reverse course that way?

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Speaker 2: If this is what you've been working on in a

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Speaker 4: the numbers and yeah, they had four hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: There is no assembly.

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Speaker 4: Another example of route runners being coveted at a premium.

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Speaker 4: You think about Kevin O'Connell and what they wanted. They

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll get bonus, we'll get some bonus stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's like, hey, Buck, we get the Tank Dell in

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Speaker 4: But I'm gonna say this Stroud is as good as

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Speaker 5: Yeah, DJ, like all this stuff clouded.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you, when I'm watching him, this dude looks

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Speaker 4: It is effortless, to the point where when you talk

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Speaker 5: The players believe in Brevin Jordan their team.

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Speaker 4: He has no interceptions. We talk about ball securary, he

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Speaker 1: I can I add one thing on Stroud here and

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Speaker 4: So you know, DJ, when you call in the game,

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Speaker 2: mesmerized watching the first quarter, second and seven deep ball

434
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Speaker 2: that tanks out here.

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Speaker 3: I've watched it about.

436
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Speaker 1: It, you weren't just reading up on like what you know,

437
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Speaker 1: the Taylor Swift Kelsey thing.

438
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Speaker 5: I don't know what.

439
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Speaker 2: I watched it about thirty six times since you guys

440
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Speaker 2: we were talking, and it's it's like a video game.

441
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Speaker 2: I'm watching the end zone copy like looking at Stroud right,

442
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 2: so from that end zone. And the best part about

443
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Speaker 2: this is the camera loses the ball, like you can't

444
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Speaker 2: see the ball, but what you can do is you

445
00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 2: can follow the trajectory of it from the shadow on

446
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Speaker 2: the turf. Nice and it's incredible to watch this, like

447
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Speaker 2: the way it I mean, the natural release is awesome,

448
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,960
Speaker 2: by the way Jaguar's getting zero pressure but.

449
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Speaker 3: CJ's back there.

450
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, perfect release, right, and and then

451
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Speaker 2: the thing just.

452
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Speaker 1: Goes like it curves right like perfectly.

453
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Speaker 2: Around the hash and then like comes back right into

454
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Speaker 2: the arms of Tank Dell with a closing safety that

455
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Speaker 2: it just beats. I mean, it's just it's like a

456
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Speaker 2: thing of beauty. I mean, I could say I consider

457
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Speaker 2: I'm watching another thirty six times like it's and there

458
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Speaker 2: was more of them like that, right, I mean you

459
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Speaker 2: have the deep deep throw actual touchdown later in the

460
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Speaker 2: game to Tank Dell.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot to like here about this young quarterback

462
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Speaker 3: in Houston. He's only getting better.

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Speaker 1: Can I just add one more thing here? And Buck

464
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Speaker 1: just put a button on it with this. But we'll

465
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Speaker 1: get through the rest of these games here, you know,

466
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Speaker 1: these big eight games that we have. But I was thinking, Okay, Trevor,

467
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Speaker 1: many they don't like Trevor's playing great. We know, Zach

468
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Speaker 1: Wilson has been terrible. Justin Fields is struggling, Trey Lance

469
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Speaker 1: has already been traded. You know, Mac Jones has been okay.

470
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Speaker 1: But that that was a draft that we were talking

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Speaker 1: about maybe being one of the best quarterback drafts we

472
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Speaker 1: had seen, you know, going back a long time. Man,

473
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Speaker 1: it's not going well for that group right now.

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Speaker 5: No, not going well.

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Speaker 4: And you know, speaking directly about like Trevor Lawrence, like

476
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Speaker 4: there's something that's just off. And you know, there's a

477
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Speaker 4: lot of conversation this week about justin fields and the

478
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Speaker 4: kind of offense that he needs to be in and

479
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Speaker 4: those things. And I'm looking at the offense each and

480
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Speaker 4: every week that Jacksonville has put around Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 5: It's all the stuff that he did at Clemson.

482
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Speaker 4: They're bubble screens, the shell acrosses, there's things where he

483
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Speaker 4: has I think the hardest thing to do in our

484
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Speaker 4: seat as evaluators is to be able to project.

485
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Speaker 5: How someone can play in something differently, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, because you can have the I'm telling you gonna

487
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 4: have the pedigree, the intelligence to instincts in those things.

488
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Speaker 4: But sometimes it still doesn't come together because that look,

489
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Speaker 4: the NFL is fast, it's a fast league.

490
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Speaker 5: Things happen.

491
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Speaker 4: You got to be able to anticipate the timing and

492
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Speaker 4: touch and all that, and so it's just you know,

493
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Speaker 4: we'll see he's been good, but you want more because

494
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Speaker 4: when you're the number one overall pick, the expectation isn't good,

495
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Speaker 4: it's great.

496
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Speaker 5: And so that's where he's at right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me take you guys to the Packers

498
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Speaker 2: Saints game at lambeau Field, And for about three quarters

499
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Speaker 2: you were like, all right, Saints are going to roll

500
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Speaker 2: home here with a big.

501
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Speaker 1: Road victory seventeen to nothing. Right, I was falling the

502
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Speaker 1: score and when I was the game I was at

503
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Speaker 1: and I was like oh, that one's over.

504
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Speaker 2: Seventeen to nothing. Derek Carr goes down. Now, ordinarily you'd

505
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Speaker 2: be like, all right, you know that was that was

506
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Speaker 2: the turning point there, And it might have been. But

507
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Speaker 2: Jameis Winston actually came in and made some big throws

508
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Speaker 2: in this game, and the Saints actually had a chance

509
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Speaker 2: to win it with a fair go ahead or the

510
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Speaker 2: field goal at the end, and they couldn't get it done.

511
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Speaker 2: But this game is about Jordan Love. This fourth quarter

512
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Speaker 2: was about Jordan Love, who, when this game, throws his

513
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Speaker 2: first career touchdown pass at lambeau Field and in doing so,

514
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Speaker 2: leads the biggest fourth quarter comeback at lambeau Field and

515
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Speaker 2: Packers history, all the way back from seventeen down And

516
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Speaker 2: we'll go back to the last two drives here, because

517
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Speaker 2: that's what I was most interested of, and when his

518
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Speaker 2: best was required, he gave his best fourth quarter comeback here.

519
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Speaker 2: The big plays from Love on the first touchdown drive,

520
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Speaker 2: third and ten down inside the red zone, twelve yard

521
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Speaker 2: throw to Jayden Reed, middle of the field, verse drop

522
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Speaker 2: eight coverage. I mean like he's patient, he waits and

523
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Speaker 2: bam as soon as Reed uncovers ball right on him.

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Speaker 3: They're in business.

525
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Speaker 2: And then they have trouble getting into the getting over

526
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Speaker 2: the goal line here, and then he gets down to

527
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Speaker 2: fourth and one and like this could be the game here,

528
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Speaker 2: and Love takes it himself, jukes a defender at the

529
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Speaker 2: goal line. He's into the end zone. First career rushing touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the next drive. He's got to scramble

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Speaker 2: for twenty four yards tiptoeing down the left sideline. That

532
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Speaker 2: gets the drive rolling. And then when you watch the

533
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Speaker 2: tape of this play, here, this Jayden Reid explosive play

534
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Speaker 2: that went for thirty yards. You watch the tape, you

535
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Speaker 2: see him manipulate They got one high safety, so he

536
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Speaker 2: manipulates that post safety for the Saints. With his eyes

537
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Speaker 2: you can see the safety dark to the right or

538
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Speaker 2: to the left of the offense. And then beautifully, Love

539
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Speaker 2: comes right back throws a dime to Reid, whose outstretch

540
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Speaker 2: makes a perfect catch. But by the way, it dropped

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Speaker 2: a couple in this game, and he won the only

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Speaker 2: one for Love earlier, and I just you know, it

543
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Speaker 2: was fantastic. So thirty yards there. Then on third and three,

544
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Speaker 2: he's got the back shoulder fade ball to Romeo Dobs,

545
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Speaker 2: that's essentially the game winner. There's just there was so

546
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Speaker 2: much there in those last two drives where you're like,

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Speaker 2: all right, Packers are going to be a good hands buck.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Packers are going to be in good hands.

549
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Speaker 4: And I think we've talked about this on the DJ

550
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Speaker 4: and I talk. I'm sure we've also mentioned it. I

551
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Speaker 4: feel like in a way, and this is going to

552
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 4: sound crazy, but I want to make sure I give

553
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Speaker 4: it a proper context. I feel like Anne Rodger's departure

554
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 4: was additioned by subtraction for the team, meaning that once

555
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Speaker 4: you remove the crutch of having the four time MVP,

556
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Speaker 4: it was going to force Matt Lafleur and this team

557
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Speaker 4: to play differently and play in a style that I

558
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Speaker 4: believe is better for them when it comes to the postseason.

559
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 4: A little more complimentary football, a little more reliance on

560
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Speaker 4: the running game, a quarterback that is now playing within

561
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Speaker 4: the system as opposed to him being the system, and

562
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Speaker 4: in time, because they've drafted well over years, I feel

563
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Speaker 4: like this would be a team that plays much better

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Speaker 4: than everyone expects.

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Speaker 5: We're kind of seeing some of that.

566
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Speaker 4: We are also seeing something that we never we talked about,

567
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Speaker 4: but it never happens when the young quarterback sits down

568
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Speaker 4: and has an opportunity to acclimate to the league. Sometimes

569
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Speaker 4: it is for the betterment of their development, and we're

570
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Speaker 4: seeing that with Jordan Love because he didn't have to

571
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Speaker 4: rush them to the field despite what we all did

572
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Speaker 4: when we tried to make those early predictions on whether

573
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Speaker 4: you could play or not. The patience that they exhibited

574
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Speaker 4: in terms of waiting before he got on the field

575
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Speaker 4: is being rewarded because now he has a bitter feel

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Speaker 4: for the game.

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Speaker 2: DJ just real quick before we get this back to you.

578
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Speaker 2: Packers without David Baktiari Elton Jenkins, Christian Watson has yet

579
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Speaker 2: to play this year, No Aaron Jones in this game,

580
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Speaker 2: and no gy R Alexander on the defensive side of

581
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Speaker 2: the ball, and they find a way to win. I mean,

582
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Speaker 2: that's five top dudes on your team right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is impressive. And the other thing I would

584
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Speaker 1: just add that Bucky used I think the word rare

585
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Speaker 1: to me. The cool thing for Jordan Love is he's

586
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Speaker 1: a first year starter, but he's not a first year player.

587
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: He's got a lot of his skill players are younger

588
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: than he is, who are guys that have. He's got

589
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Speaker 1: all the receivers, so he's actually he's already established himself.

590
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Speaker 1: He can come in and be a leader as a

591
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Speaker 1: first time starter because he's known everybody in the organization

592
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Speaker 1: in the building for several years and he's he's been

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Speaker 1: there longer than all the guys he's playing with on

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Speaker 1: the perimeter. So he's already got credibility and leadership established

595
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Speaker 1: where most guys that's all a big storm scrolling around

596
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Speaker 1: at once. I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing now,

597
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying to establish myself as a leader in trying

598
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Speaker 1: to learn. Like No, he's already got a chance to

599
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: have that foundation laid and now he can not only

600
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: be a first year start, but a first year starter

601
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Speaker 1: with some you know, with some leadership qualities there. So

602
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: it's worked out beautifully for Brian Goudikins and the Green

603
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 1: Bay Packers, how this whole thing has come together. So

604
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Speaker 1: a big win for them. The Packers keep rolling, they

605
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: win eighteen to seventeen over the Saints. Right, we're going

606
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Speaker 1: to take quick break and we come back Titans Browns.

607
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Speaker 1: What we saw on that one, including one of the

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Speaker 1: best defensive performances we've seen this year. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: that right after this. All right, guys, let's jump into

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Speaker 1: this one. This was a thrashing. This was not a

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Speaker 1: good matchup for the Tennessee Titans, who have an offensive

612
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Speaker 1: line that has holes and has issues, and they ran

613
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Speaker 1: up against really, in my opinion, the most talented defensive

614
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Speaker 1: player in the NFL.

615
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Speaker 5: TJ.

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Speaker 1: Watt you can make cases is odd track right now,

617
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Speaker 1: with Micah Parsons in the discussion as well. Both those

618
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Speaker 1: guys are playing great. Nobody as a rusher is as

619
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Speaker 1: skilled has everything at their disposal like Miles Garrett does,

620
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Speaker 1: and that was on display in this game. They had

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Speaker 1: no answer for him. He was just completely dominant. Three

622
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Speaker 1: and a half sacks, forced to fumble, five quarterback hits.

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Speaker 1: I went back and watched it. You know, the plays

624
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: circulating on the internet. You're seeing every with him moving

625
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 1: side inside and the tight ends are following him, which

626
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: is kind of hilarious. But his speed to power is

627
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 1: unlike anything that I've seen, just in terms of how

628
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: dynamic and explosively is. I posted a couple of plays

629
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Speaker 1: his first two three steps up the field and when

630
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: he transitioned speed to power, it's a rap man like

631
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: you are on roller skates. Nobody's anchoring that. He just

632
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: throws tackles port Dillard. I felt bad for Andre Dillard.

633
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: That's a rough one for him trying to stop that charge.

634
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. But Jim Schwartz has this defense rolling.

635
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: And Jim Schwartz, you know, I think he had been

636
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: consulting with the Titans after he left the Eagles as well,

637
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: so I'm sure he knew he knew what the issues

638
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: were there, and he was able to attack them very,

639
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: very specifically. But two takeaways from the game, but that

640
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: one and Buck I'll get it to you after this,

641
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: but you can go either any way you want. But

642
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: that was the first one was Miles Garrett. Then I

643
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, Deshaun Watson. Gosh, I look

644
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: at the box score. So then I'm like, I want

645
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: to watch the game and see what I discovered. So

646
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Speaker 1: as I'm watching it, I'm sitting here thinking, Okay, this

647
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: is he's like two different players when when what we've

648
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: said in the past is I don't know how great

649
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: this offense fits him. So I'm like, you know, I'm

650
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Speaker 1: watching it and I'm charting and I'm like, you know,

651
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: I nein't got to go to PFF afterwards and see

652
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: what these numbers are, because this is what stands out

653
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: to me is he is infinitely more comfortable in the gun,

654
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: no shotgun, I mean, no no play action. He's different.

655
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: A lot of quarterbacks prefer the play action. It simplifies looks,

656
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: it gives them, it gives them more space and depth.

657
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: He has always been more comfortable in a catch rock

658
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: and throw gun attacks. What he did in college, it's

659
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: what he did in Houston under center. Play action doesn't

660
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: it's not him. That's not who he is and not

661
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: what he does best. So I'm watching, I'm like, okay,

662
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: let me go pull up these numbers and you can

663
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: do it pretty easy here. So when they were on

664
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: play action and it wasn't bad, but on play action action,

665
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: he was nine to fifteen. Okay, he had a touchdown

666
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: nine to fifteen for one hundred and twelve yards, but

667
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: he was saying he took three sacks there. So nine

668
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: to fifteen took three sacks, one hundred and twelve yards

669
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. Now let's go to non play action, which,

670
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: again most quarterbacks like play action. On non play action.

671
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: He was eighteen for twenty two with a drop included

672
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: in that should have been nineteen for twenty two for

673
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy seven yards. He had a touchdown,

674
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: no picks, no sacks like that is. At some point

675
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: in time they got to put it together of like, Okay,

676
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: I know what we've done, and I know if I'm

677
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, what I'm comfortable with. That's not him. He

678
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: is not a play action quarterback. He's not an under

679
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: center quarterback. Put that dude in the gun and as

680
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: buck as you like to say, it is spread and shred.

681
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: That's who Deshaun Watson is.

682
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 4: So if you go back and we talked about the quarterback,

683
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: that's how he's played his entire life.

684
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 5: He didn't play under s in Clemson.

685
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 4: When you look at the best of Deshaun Watson going

686
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 4: back to Clemson, it was shotgun, ball out RPOs.

687
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 5: Quick game, quick rhythm thrower. Let him go to work.

688
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 5: When you go and you.

689
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: Think about what they did in Houston with him, it

690
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: was shotguns, spread it out, give me the matchups, I'll

691
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: figure it out.

692
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 5: DJ.

693
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 4: That's him and what you're seeing and it's a great

694
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: observation by you. He's a much different player when he's

695
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: under center than when he's in the gun and doing

696
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 4: what he's always done. Will Kevin Stefanski and that crew

697
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 4: be able to say, Hey, guys, I know our playbook

698
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: is built around these things, but the player does this

699
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 4: stuff well. And it's the hardest thing for any coach

700
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 4: to admit. Man, I love all this stuff, but I

701
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 4: spent all season drawing up all my stuff. But my

702
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: players do something different. They play better doing something that.

703
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 4: You got to meet him where he's at because they're

704
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: going to need him to play at his best, and

705
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: playing at his best is in the gun.

706
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: And it's it's not even and it's not even like

707
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: just play action under center, Buck, he's in the gun.

708
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: If he's they use some they use him in the gun,

709
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: ride play action pistol player. He's not He's not comfortable

710
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 1: in any of it. He's just better. Just put him

711
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: in the side saddle, go empty, whatever you got to do.

712
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: Just let him take a three step from the gun

713
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: rat and let him pick and stick there.

714
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: And look, it's it's about time that they start to

715
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: figure out right what he wants, what he does well.

716
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: I mean like it's you know, I know they haven't

717
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: played a full season yet, but he'd been around now

718
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: for a while.

719
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: Like you hope they can build on this.

720
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: Meanwhile for the Titans, like I mean, I asked this

721
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 2: us just to you DJ, and then we can we

722
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: can move past this game. But is there a team

723
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: with a smaller margin for error offensively or really team

724
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: wide than the Tennessee Titans. Like if they can't dominate

725
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: on the ground with the King, with Derrick Henry.

726
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: It's over, Like they just they don't.

727
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: Have those are the two players and Henry.

728
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: And it just feels like, you know, at some point,

729
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: are we like, okay, this the way we are currently

730
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 2: constructed is going to allow us to find suctin sustained

731
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: success much longer. Like I think after this year, you know,

732
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be looking at some you know, some pretty

733
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: significant roster changes.

734
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: Well. I think Jim Schwartz watched that tape against the

735
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: Chargers too and realized, look, they hit two home run

736
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: balls on the Chargers. Chargers just got caught, and Jim

737
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: Schartz like that ain't happening. You've got to have to

738
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: march the ball against us, and we're gonna and this

739
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: is not gonna happen, not gonna give that up at

740
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: three points. So and the Cleveland Browns look that that's

741
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: a great We talk about scheme and player. I don't

742
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: know there's a better fit. You know, when you look

743
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: at Jim Schwartz with the personality has it's it's a

744
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: really really good fit there.

745
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 5: Buck.

746
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: We teased this game at the top. We talked about

747
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: at the top. We couldn't avoid it. But we can

748
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: go a little deeper if you'd like. Here on the

749
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: Dolphins seventy burger they put on the Broncos.

750
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: H what do you got for us?

751
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: But no, this is what everyone wanted to see from

752
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 4: this offense when MIAMC Games took over. So what we

753
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 4: wanted and what we thought we were getting from the

754
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins when they hired McGinn. We thought we were

755
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 4: getting the Cols shanahan running game. Okay, So now the

756
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: first year we saw a spread attack that was built

757
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 4: around TOA and Tyreek Hill and the.

758
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: Fast guys outside.

759
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 4: So you have we just talked about building your passing

760
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: game around what the quarterback does well. So MIKEI Danias

761
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 4: did a great job of taking Hey Tua does a

762
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: lot of quick rhythm shows. We talked about him being

763
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 4: like a blackjack dealer at a Vegas casino.

764
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 5: That's what he does. He can get it out or whatever.

765
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 4: So now they've been able to take that pass attack

766
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 4: and then begin to put some of the Shanahan running

767
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 4: game with it. And when it comes together like it

768
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 4: came together on Sunday against the Broncos, it is a

769
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 4: problem because both things present different challenges to the defense

770
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 4: and the defensive coordinator. Obviously Ban Joseph and the Broncos

771
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 4: couldn't stop any of it, but it is a difficult set.

772
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 5: Of concepts and things to defend.

773
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: And when the Dolphins have it rolling, good luck, because

774
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,959
Speaker 4: to stop the running game requires you to play a

775
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 4: certain weight on defense. You may have to play more

776
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 4: man to man to stuff the box, but you play

777
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: man to man against that track team that they have outside,

778
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 4: you're inviting them to bust the clock on you in

779
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: the passing game. I'm waiting for the team to crack

780
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: the code on how to defend this team. But right now,

781
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, I don't know if there's a better

782
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 4: offense we've seen in the Miami Dolphins.

783
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we were always kind of waiting, like,

784
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: all right, we know they've got the speed, right, we

785
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: know that that Tyreek and Jalen when he's healthy, that

786
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 2: they can roll and they can push the ball down

787
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 2: the field, they can run.

788
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 3: Those deep overs.

789
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: I think Tyreek Hill was in the scouting report for

790
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: the Broncos this week, although they sure did leave him

791
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: uncovered on that first drive and obviously that was a

792
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: bust and so they got issues there. But I felt

793
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: like we were always kind of waiting, you know, for

794
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 2: what we knew was possible with a Mike McDaniel led

795
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: run game plan. And man, I don't know that you

796
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 2: will ever see and this is the first time we've

797
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: ever seen it. Three hundred and fifty plus passing, three

798
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty plus rushing in NFL history. Like they're

799
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: not going to get that every week. But if you're

800
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: talking this team's capable of two hundred on the ground

801
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: and two fifty in the air every week, what do

802
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 2: you take away, DJ.

803
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: Well, I was just looking up some some numbers because

804
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: I was curious on this and I can swing it.

805
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: I can swing it back to buck quickly on this one.

806
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: But you know, comparisons. Often we look at body types first,

807
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: and that's the comparison that you make. You can have

808
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: a similar game in a different body and just just

809
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: off of this, I'm just taking Obviously this the Tyreek

810
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: one's deeper, but we'll get to the A Chane one

811
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: here in a second. But if you look at it,

812
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: the closest thing that Tyreek Hill that we've seen in

813
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: the NFL, I mean is Randy Moss. I mean, they're

814
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: totally different body types. But Randy Moss played at a

815
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: different speed and Buck you saw him, I mean, yeah,

816
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: he was just different. He looked different than everybody else.

817
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: Do you play, you watch the games every week. He's different,

818
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: He's faster than everybody. And then you look at that

819
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: same biking team. You remember in the backfield they had

820
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: Robert Smith. Now Robert Smith and A Chane and Devin

821
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: Ah Chane have totally different bodies. But I'm like, in

822
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: some weird way, Robert Smith was a track star Ohio State,

823
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: I believe went to school, so you've got he was

824
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: brackstar running back and the fastest receiver in the NFL.

825
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: In some ways, this this kind of this looks a

826
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: little bit like the old like Minnesota Vikings, that offense

827
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: that took the league over with Brian Billock is the

828
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator back on those teams.

829
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 5: Buck, Yeah, you know what I'm try about that.

830
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: Rahie Moster also has a very accomplished, like track background.

831
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 5: So you just talk about.

832
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 4: The speed that they have and how they can attack it,

833
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: but Han gives them a different dimension.

834
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 5: Is one of the things.

835
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: You know, DJ, when we were doing the evaluation and

836
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the running backs and so you look

837
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: at all the other guys, look at Zach from an

838
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: AEC and he's just hammering Dwayne McBride from u A

839
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: just and then I was like, I was like, okay,

840
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 4: then put the texta in and he's like whoa all.

841
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 5: Over the all over the place, and it's whatever.

842
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: And then you realize, like, oh, he's like though, and

843
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 4: the Dolphins have found a way to put him on

844
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 4: the field and allow him to uh be an effective

845
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 4: weapon despite his size deficiencies. And it's a album just

846
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 4: to speed overall, and we've said it the number one

847
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 4: thing that you have to have. Like we can talk

848
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 4: about size or whatever, but you want a fast team

849
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: because fast teams create big plays. They create turnovers on

850
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 4: defense because the speed is everything and the Miami Dolphins

851
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 4: have a similar world class track team, and because of that,

852
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 4: they wanted teams to be feared.

853
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: Can I ask you, can I ask you one question.

854
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: I'll go to red on this one. You put the

855
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: for sale sign up in the yard? If you're Denver,

856
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: do you say, hey, you know Simmons, maybe maybe Certain

857
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: just say hey, we gotta we got to reboot this thing.

858
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do Certain.

859
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 2: He's a building block, all right, Like you got to

860
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: have something right that you can you can hang your

861
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: hat on.

862
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: But I feel like at some point here, you know,

863
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: you'll start.

864
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: To look at those receivers, right, Judy Sutton, you know

865
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: they they already.

866
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: Pushed that for sales sign up. They didn't get any nibbles.

867
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about real assets. I'm talking about real dudes,

868
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: and say we are going to take this down to

869
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: these studs.

870
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny.

871
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 4: Did you chompaign comments about trying to win the off

872
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 4: season and all the other stuff, Like they had a

873
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 4: team that was trying to win the off season, and

874
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: they spend so much time worrying about that that they

875
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 4: didn't necessarily build a team I mean.

876
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 5: He definitely is firing all shots.

877
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 4: I mean he kind of threw the management team and

878
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 4: everybody under the bus about the construction of the squad.

879
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: But they're not a good squad right now. And we

880
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 4: can put it all over Russ for a minute, but

881
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 4: it's beyond that. You give him seventy points and you

882
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 4: play the way that they play. It's more than just

883
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson.

884
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: Why don't you reunite Why don't you have Joe call,

885
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: call Sean and see if we could reunite Hacket with

886
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: with Russell Wilson again.

887
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: If that don't work, have like eighty five, have like

888
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: eighty five, what like ninety million dollars on a quarterback room.

889
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 5: They'll go, well, so, but.

890
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: Anyway, I wouldn't. I'm out of who the player would be.

891
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't know who it would be, but I could.

892
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 3: I just think, Yeah, I mean run the under the bottom. Yeah,

893
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: I think you're on the right track though.

894
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's get to the next one here.

895
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: Rhtt are you up here? What do we got?

896
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 3: Yeah? We talking bears chiefs now yep. Oh, Because this.

897
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: All right? If you do one Taylor Swift pun I'm

898
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna kick you off the show. So just no, that's

899
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: not allowed.

900
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 5: DJ.

901
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: I had planned to not mention the Chiefs, Okay, not

902
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: at all, because.

903
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: They did what they did.

904
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 3: What they do.

905
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: They beat up on teams are supposed to beat up on.

906
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: They're far better personnel wise, scheme wise, coaching staff wise

907
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: than the Bears right now. And they showed it and

908
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: they proved it. So let's dig in on the disaster

909
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: that is the Bears offense here for a second. So

910
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: I just kind of went in and wanted to see

911
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: what this thing looked like. And I watched the first

912
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 2: drop back from Justin Fields. He's in his own end zone,

913
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: which you know is in a great start, but he

914
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: actually makes a really he makes a really good play,

915
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: like he gets out of some trouble, like he is

916
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: scrambling for his life out to the right, makes a

917
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 2: pinpoint throw and they get like a ten twelve yard game,

918
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: get and get some breathing room. And I watched the

919
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: second play and the right guard gets absolutely destroyed and Fields,

920
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 2: you know, is in trouble like from the jump and

921
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: it wasn't even Chris Jones, right, And so then the

922
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: third play, Casey has the deal. They have four guys

923
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: ready to tackle what essentially is a two man route combo.

924
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: Both guys going vertical down the field. Nobody open, nobody

925
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: open fields throws in DJ Morre's direction, but they got

926
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: no chance at It's essentially a throwaway, and he's getting

927
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: pressure by the way because he's holding it, waiting, waiting.

928
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 2: Nobody's there. All right, next play he gets good. This

929
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: is all in like the first quarter here, and I

930
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: was like, all.

931
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: Right, please don't do too much more of this. This

932
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: is painful, listen, I know, but I'm.

933
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: Just telling you it gets gets good protection. Another two

934
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: man deeper route combo. Again, no shot, Like they keep

935
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: challenging it deep down the field with two guys and

936
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: there's nobody in the middle of the field for high

937
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: percentage completions, I mean like the third and six, third

938
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 2: and seven, and they've got these deep routes well covered.

939
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: There's nobody challenging the sticks but nobody they're sending a

940
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: little delay out to the flat like at the.

941
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: End, but in the field is just sitting there.

942
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: Here's a sitting duck and it's just like a microcosm

943
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: of that you know, ten to twelve place secrets sequence

944
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 2: that I'm talking about like a microcosm of what we're

945
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: talking about here, Like for the whole game, I don't know,

946
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: part of it's on justice and like everybody takes a

947
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 2: piece of the blame here, I think is the ultimate conclusion.

948
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 5: Such, it's such a crazy thing to watch.

949
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I understand his challenges in those things, but

950
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 4: just the level of inebstitute from this offense is beyond belief,

951
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 4: from personnel to scheming to just the executions quarterback and others.

952
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 5: It is crazy.

953
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: And to come off the week that they had when

954
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: everyone is talking all the conversation and.

955
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: Man, that was a bad that's a bad week for them,

956
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: And that's not the opponent you want to face coming

957
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: off oh, really bad week.

958
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, usually find refuge in between the white lines and.

959
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they got and they got beat the sleeping

960
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 4: I don't know where it goes. They've lost thirteen in

961
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 4: a row for the first time in franchise history. Uh,

962
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: they don't have any confidence as a team. If you're

963
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 4: mad ALUs, I mean, I don't know even know where

964
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: you start, you know, like trying to figure out how

965
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: to how to pick up the pieces on this team

966
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: on the offense, on the quarterback.

967
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: Man.

968
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 5: That's a tough one. Tough one.

969
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 2: The weird the weird thing is like, yo, if you

970
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: wanted to make a change, like where are you going offensively?

971
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: Like if you're saying like it's not working with Luke Getzi,

972
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: you know, like all right, now, what you know?

973
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: I feel like it's taken this long to get to

974
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 3: this point, you know where like you've.

975
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: Been trying to find all right, give them some time

976
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: to get used to each other, to figure things out

977
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: a little bit.

978
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know that there's an easy

979
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: solution here.

980
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that solution comes. So to warn Detroit

981
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: for the draft, that's when that solution comes. Yeah, we'll see,

982
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see who all's who allys left there.

983
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: But that's this current mix is not good. I can't

984
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: even spend any more time on this because this is

985
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 1: just like it's painful. They're there and there's the reason

986
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: why the Jets Patriots is not on.

987
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: I don't you know what, DJ, I don't think they

988
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 2: can shake it off, you know, I just don't.

989
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 5: Think they can.

990
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: So bad, that's so bad. I thought you're I thought

991
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: you were gonna go somewhere ELSEI I thought, you know,

992
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: if they just love to see him just get to seventeen,

993
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: you know, can they just yes? All right, that's why

994
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 1: I said no. I didn't want to go down that road.

995
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: But that's also why Patriots. So for those that are listening, going,

996
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: is he going to break down Patriots Jets? No, because

997
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: I didn't want to subject myself to having to watch that.

998
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: I didn't see the game. I was at another game

999
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: this morning. I have so much time. There's games I

1000
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: want to study, There's things I'm curious about. Out of

1001
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: respect for the game, I can't do it. I can't

1002
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: do that. I didn't want. I just didn't want to

1003
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: spend my Monday morning watching that. I couldn't do it.

1004
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 5: All right.

1005
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: The Sunday night Er Steelers beat the Raiders twenty three

1006
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: to eighteen.

1007
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 5: TT.

1008
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: I'll let you get back on the decision here, because

1009
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: we've been you know, I think we have the numbers,

1010
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: the odds. You can read those off here in just

1011
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: a minute. Yeah, McDaniel's going for it late, which was

1012
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: very curious, to say the least. I'll just say this

1013
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: a couple things. Yeh, can he Pickett? I thought he

1014
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: played well. I thought he trusted his eyes. I thought

1015
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: he threw the ball well. I thought it made sense

1016
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: what they were doing. They mixed in some screens, they

1017
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: took shots down the field. He just looked like it

1018
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: was I don't want to say screw it, but it

1019
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: was just kind of he was just like, you know what,

1020
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: just I'm just gonna play. I'm just gonna sit back here,

1021
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit my back foot, I'm gonna trust it,

1022
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let it rip. There was no hesitancy.

1023
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: I thought there was a little he was a little

1024
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: unsure early in the season. In those first couple of games.

1025
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: He just wasn't playing with confidence, and I thought it

1026
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: was just kind of a screw it type game. He

1027
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: was like, you know, no, I'm gonna take my shots wherever,

1028
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: wherever they are. I'm gonna use my legs and create,

1029
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: which he did, which I love to see because he's

1030
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: really athletic when he gets on the move. I just

1031
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: thought I thought he did it.

1032
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 5: Really.

1033
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: I thought he did a really nice shot. With their defense.

1034
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: If he plays just that, that's the bar he plays

1035
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: at that level, there'll be a playoff team because the

1036
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: defense is so good.

1037
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he used his athleticism a little bit too.

1038
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: On a number of plays he kind of got out

1039
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 2: of the pocket and showcase that he can, you know,

1040
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: actually make some moves. The throw down field Alvin Austin

1041
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: was awesome, Like that was a heck of a way

1042
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: to start the game right on that deep shot and

1043
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 2: it gave the.

1044
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: Little guys big yeah there it is, see all right.

1045
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: So this is courtesy of our our buddy Bill Smith,

1046
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: who does a great job with all the analytics and

1047
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: research for us, and you put this in here on

1048
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 2: this email from Bill who was talking about the win

1049
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: probability percentages based on the decision making from Josh McDaniel.

1050
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: So let me just run through this first part to

1051
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 3: set the stage here.

1052
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: They had the ball at the three point fifteen mark

1053
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: of the fourth quarter, down eight, right, so one score game,

1054
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: need a touchdown, two point conversion. They got a fourth

1055
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 2: and five from the Pittsburgh twenty nine. They decided to

1056
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: opt for a Daniel Carlston field goal at that point,

1057
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: which they kicked and it was good. I was like,

1058
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: you know what, at that point, all right, I get it.

1059
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: There's three fifteen left. Like, even if you don't get

1060
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: the stop on you know, they get a first down,

1061
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 2: you're still okay, you have all three timeouts to the

1062
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: two minute warning.

1063
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 3: I understand. I kind of understood it at that point.

1064
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: Right then they actually get you know, some good fortune,

1065
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: and there's a penalty call leverage call on Demarvin Leal,

1066
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: and so they actually get a personal foul fifteen yards

1067
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: moving the ball down the field. They take the three

1068
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: off the board and they're trying to go get the touchdown. Well,

1069
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: then a whole nother minute comes off the clock and

1070
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 2: find themselves in another fourth and four situation, this time

1071
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: from the Pittsburgh eighth, and they still opt to kick

1072
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 2: the field goal on fourth down, And so that part

1073
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: of it, like the second time doing it, I was like, okay,

1074
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 2: this this feels like this might come back to bite them.

1075
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: So here's what the win probability did.

1076
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: Essentially, Josh McDaniels lost five point four percent of win

1077
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: probability by deciding to kick the field goal on fourth

1078
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: and four with two twenty five to go. If the

1079
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 2: win probability with the field goal was just eight point

1080
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: five percent, if they would have gone for it, the

1081
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: win probability was almost fourteen percent if successful on the

1082
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 2: fourth down. The win probability is twenty six percent if

1083
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: unsuccessful three point five, but the conversion probability was forty.

1084
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was not with the math on that one. Yeah.

1085
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 3: And by the way, Jimmy Garoppolo was under constant duress

1086
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 3: in this game.

1087
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: Well, Jermaine the Luminar is not. That's not a great

1088
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: matchup with t J.

1089
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 5: Watt.

1090
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: Let's just let's just be I'll be nice about it.

1091
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that buck.

1092
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 4: No, And for the stillness, it's just another way that

1093
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: they find a way to win ugly and they just

1094
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 4: stack enough wins until they find their stride. It's another

1095
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 4: ugly win defensive kind of defense kind of led the way.

1096
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 4: You're right about Kenny pickyt being able to just kind

1097
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 4: of find enough place on offense in the passing game

1098
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: to kind of keep them going. But Mike Tomlin typically

1099
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: finds it out, figures it out, and as long as

1100
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 4: they continue to win these games and whatever fashion that

1101
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 4: they can win him in the first half of the year,

1102
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 4: we know they're gonna be a much better team down

1103
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 4: the stretch, uh, barring any injuries. And so they go

1104
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 4: the two and one sit at the top of the

1105
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 4: AFC North with Baltimore.

1106
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: All right, last last game. We'll jump into here and

1107
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: then maybe a couple nuggets here at the end. But

1108
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: I want to start before I Bucky jumps on this game. Look,

1109
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: I try to live my life with proper morals and integrity,

1110
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: and when I screw up, I'll tell you I screwed up.

1111
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: I've done it a million times on players I've screwed

1112
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: up on. But I thought this was a slam dunk,

1113
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: foregone conclusion that the Arizona Cardinals would have the first

1114
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: pick in the draft. They're going to be the worst

1115
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: team in the league. And all they've done is be

1116
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: competitive and then go out and knock off what had

1117
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: been the most dominant team in the NFL and the

1118
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and did it pretty convincing fashion. So Jonathan Gannon,

1119
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: please accept my apology. Many Austin Ford is a good buddy.

1120
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: Please accept my apology. You have put a team on

1121
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,240
Speaker 1: the field that is competing. Their rear ends off, and there's.

1122
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 3: The fire of the gut. I think, yeah, we all fires.

1123
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: In the gut to me, So that Buck, you can

1124
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: go in on this game whatever way you want to go.

1125
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 1: But I just wanted to issue a formal apology and

1126
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: say I was wrong. I was wrong. You guys have

1127
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: put a competitive product on the field. It's more than

1128
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: it's been a good product for the first three weeks.

1129
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, a good product. Josh Dobbs.

1130
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 4: How about that, Josh Dobbkins his first win of his

1131
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 4: career as a quarterback, seven years into the league.

1132
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 5: He finally gets it done.

1133
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 4: There's some things that I don't even know if we

1134
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 4: saw him do much at University of Tennessee, running his

1135
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 4: own rings, getting outside, playing with a lot of emotion

1136
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 4: and firepower. But this is a team that is kind

1137
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 4: of scrappy. I didn't expect them to be scrappy, and

1138
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 4: sometimes we can get bogged down by the I would

1139
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 4: say awkward presser, the awkward initial press conference, or the

1140
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 4: awkward behind the scenes stuff that we saw on Jonathan Gannon.

1141
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 4: But whatever it is that they're selling in the building

1142
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 4: is working. Team plays hard, team is competitive. They were

1143
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 4: able to get a dub against I mean to get

1144
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: a dub against the.

1145
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys had been crushing people. I mean they crush the Giants,

1146
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: they crushed the Jets.

1147
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 4: And so they figured out they're playing just well enough

1148
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 4: on offense not messing it up, and in defensively they

1149
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 4: were able to kind of get it done against the

1150
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 4: Cowboys team that should have been able to just go

1151
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 4: up and down the field.

1152
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: It will, Yeah, I mean it, Uh just kind of shocked,

1153
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 2: you know, watching the whole thing unfold, and I guess

1154
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 2: we you know, maybe you know the way they played

1155
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: the Giants last week, and maybe we shouldn't be, but

1156
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 2: I think that this team will. Definitely they may not

1157
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 2: win a ton of games this year, but they're gonna

1158
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 2: give some people trouble. Is probably the best way that

1159
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: I can. They're they're they're not laying down for anybody.

1160
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: And Cowboys continue to have issues.

1161
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: As we mentioned a little bit earlier in the red

1162
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: Zone that has been a bugaboo continues to be an

1163
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: issue for them. They've got to get that resolve and

1164
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: get that fixed. I would also say, you know, one

1165
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: of the one of the storylines that maybe didn't pay

1166
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: attention to in this one is that Jonathan Gannon has

1167
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: been in Philadelphia. He's very familiar with Dallas, he's very

1168
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: familiar with their personnel, and maybe that played a part

1169
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: in here as they were able to get a big

1170
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 1: win all right through some of these other games real quick.

1171
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: I'll just run through them. If there'snything else you guys

1172
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: want to add Patriots Jets. As I mentioned, it's Zach Wilson.

1173
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: It's not working. It's there's no no, nothing else needs

1174
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: to be said. It's like to me in high school,

1175
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: if you're failing Spanish too, and you drop the course

1176
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: so you can pick up a teacher's assistant class, and

1177
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: two weeks later they throw you back in Spanish too,

1178
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: You're like, I don't want to be in here. All right,

1179
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: field this I dropped this class. What are you doing me?

1180
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: Let me just let me just help this teacher? Great,

1181
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: some papers over here, like what, I don't want to

1182
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: do this, but they've got to figure something out there.

1183
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: The Bills and the Commanders with that was a butt kicking.

1184
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: The Bill's thirty seven to three. All is right, Buffalo right.

1185
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: Now, Bill's defense. That's I think it's for real.

1186
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 2: And you know what, they lost Tremaine Edmonds in free agency,

1187
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: but that linebacker corps might be better this year with

1188
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 2: Terrell Bernard and not Milano.

1189
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1190
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 3: Bernard was incredible this last week.

1191
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: And then Colts Ravens maybe one of the biggest surprises

1192
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: on that one buck the Colts with Gardner Minshew, they

1193
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: go and I know the Ravens are missing seven starters. Nonetheless,

1194
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 1: that is not an easy place to play, and that

1195
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: is a rivalry they take seriously in Baltimore for obvious reasons.

1196
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: That's a big win for the Colts.

1197
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, big win for the Coles. Gana Minchew finds a

1198
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 4: way to kind of make enough place. Now he also

1199
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 4: has some bonehead blunders it he did it, but they

1200
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 4: were able to overcome it. But how about the day

1201
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 4: for the kicker being able to knock you down, being.

1202
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: Able to get its four from fifty plus.

1203
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 4: I mean that's unbelievable. Like they have a long distant kicker.

1204
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 4: So you never really like kickers until you need a kicker.

1205
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 4: Indianapolis Colts soon may have a greater appreciation for the

1206
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 4: kicking game.

1207
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: No one loves competing and playing football. I can't say

1208
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: no one. There are a few who love competing and

1209
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 2: playing football as much as Gardner Minshew does. Like the

1210
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: joy that dude plays with is awesome.

1211
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: I would also add one more thing on those guys, Uh,

1212
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: they got after the passer a little bit with their

1213
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,879
Speaker 1: defensive front. Let's see, say or Franklin had a sack,

1214
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: Cam had a sack. Quity pays gonna be a good player,

1215
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: starting to come into his own. He had one. Tavi

1216
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: and Brian had one, So they've did a nice Brian,

1217
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: I know, how about that? Be honest with yourself. Did

1218
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: you know that Tavi and Brian was playing for the

1219
00:52:55,800 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: Colts right now? Be honest there? Pick Yeah, last one.

1220
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: I didn't see any of this game, so I can't

1221
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: comment on it. But Panthers Seahawks. The Seahawks win that one,

1222
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: thirty seven twenty seven. Either of you guys catch any

1223
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: of that one.

1224
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: I caught the stiff arm that Zach Charboney put on

1225
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: a Panthers unsuspecting member of the secondary on his way

1226
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: to the end zone. Charbon Ay and Kenneth Walker essentially

1227
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 2: are the That's the way they.

1228
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 3: Want to win, and they're going to beat you up

1229
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: doing it.

1230
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's old school. It's old school for them, as

1231
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,919
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll, and it's the way that they want to play.

1232
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 4: They want to beat you up, they want to run it,

1233
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: they want to play defense, and they've been able to

1234
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 4: do it for a long time in Seattle, so no

1235
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 4: need for them to change it.

1236
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: All right, guys, So this is this was fun. Man

1237
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: went through. We went through a bunch of stuff today.

1238
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: I always love it when we kind of get in

1239
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 1: some of those deeper discussions as were able to do.

1240
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: Really enjoyed it. You know what I'm doing. I'm off

1241
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: to go buy a texedo because my daughter's getting married

1242
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: in two weeks. Two weeks, two weeks, just getting married,

1243
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: and so I've got to I was going to rent

1244
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: by thing, and I somehow convinced myself that you know what,

1245
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: there might be other big, big events and uh then

1246
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: I'll never have to run a tuxedo again. Wow, it'd

1247
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: be this could be flawed thinking. I know he is

1248
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: my he is my clothing consultant. I'm going to be

1249
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: at Nordstrom in about two hours. If you'd like to

1250
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: meet me down at Fashion Valley in San Diego in

1251
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: two hours. Fortune to get there, so quick quick question,

1252
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: quick pull for the group pair for the panel tuxedo,

1253
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: we go long tire bow tie.

1254
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: I mean, you want to be classic or you want

1255
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: to be a little bit more like polish Modern is

1256
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 2: going to send you with the with the tie.

1257
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 4: Okay, but I think I think James Bond style, you

1258
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 4: got to go to bowtie dude like that.

1259
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 5: You got to go Sean Connery. I would expect you

1260
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 5: to be very uh, debon and dapper.

1261
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see you as a as a bow

1262
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: tie guy.

1263
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 3: I think.

1264
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like I don't want to be the

1265
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: person who's trying too hard. I want to be a

1266
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: properly aged apparel forty five years old.

1267
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 5: I think.

1268
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 4: I think I think the shoe game is really more important.

1269
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: Make sure we get we have some nice shoes.

1270
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: I got the shiny too. I think there are are

1271
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: you going are you going like a shiny black?

1272
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 5: Are you going with the pad and leather? You're going

1273
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 5: with the pad and leather joints? Make sure you get

1274
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 5: a good, nice nice.

1275
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: So would you go leather over the shine man? Well

1276
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: oh no no, but.

1277
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 4: I'm saying, but like, if you're going to do it,

1278
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 4: you got to do it the right way. Don't don't

1279
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 4: have those rental joints.

1280
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 1: Just make sure they're looking good. Yeah, yeah, but answer

1281
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: me the question. You know what I'm talking like, do

1282
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: they need to be like, oh shiny like you can classic? Yeah,

1283
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: you've got to have the sta face them.

1284
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, and bull.

1285
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 4: Tie and you need to practice you like that first

1286
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 4: dance and all that other stuff.

1287
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: You got to get yourself ready. No, the best part

1288
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: about it, you know, the best part about that. I'm

1289
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: glad you mentioned that my daughter did me a solid

1290
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: on that and she was like, look, you know, it's

1291
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of a weird part of the

1292
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: wedding is that everybody's just staring at you doing the

1293
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: father daughter dance. The first dance off, She's like, so

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Speaker 1: she cut the songs down to a minute, so she's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: that's hey work, that's a couple of these one chorus,

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Speaker 1: we are done, one twirl and then boom, let's get

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Speaker 1: on with the show here. So that's uh, that's big. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can believe that night. Yeah, she's twenty two years old,

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Speaker 1: just getting married in two weeks. So it's busy for

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Speaker 1: for me over here. Okay, yeah, very busy, hotly smokes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I'll say I'll let you guys know, I'll send

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Speaker 1: you a text if I go bow tire a regular time.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm waiting towards the bow ta I think

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Speaker 1: I like that more of a classic age appropriate.

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Speaker 3: Look, Yeah, you're gonna be a good shaped all right.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate Uh. If you have. If you want to

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Speaker 1: weigh in on that, go ahead and send us, send

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Speaker 1: me a tweet down that let me know, leave us

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Speaker 1: a review.

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Speaker 5: We appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: In the review, yeah, leave us a rating and review,

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Speaker 1: and let me know if I should wear a long

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Speaker 1: tire of bow tie. I appreciate it, all right. We

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Speaker 1: got plenty more coming your way this week four more episodes.

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Speaker 1: Be on the lookout for those, including number one thousand,

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Speaker 1: the thousandth Move the Sticks episode. Uh, that's going to

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Speaker 1: be coming your way. I believe Friday is when that's

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Speaker 1: going to air, So be on the lookout for that. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: we'll see you next time right here on Move Sticks.

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Speaker 4: Mhmm.