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Speaker 1: Hey, Professional Homegirls, it's Shagirl ebene here and welcome back

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Speaker 1: to our last rewind episode before we kick off on

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Speaker 1: season two. That's right, Season two is dropping on April sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: Markie Calendars at the same time, same place, and I'm

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Speaker 1: super excited for you all to dive into these conversations

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Speaker 1: with me starting with our season premiere, the one that

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Speaker 1: you've all been asking for.

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Speaker 2: My father's mistress killed my mother, I know, right.

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Speaker 1: However, if you are a fan of shows like CSI,

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Speaker 1: Law and Order or Dexter, this week's rewind episode is

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Speaker 1: definitely for you. You know, I'm always intrigued by those

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Speaker 1: who work in the death industry, and personally, I find

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Speaker 1: being an autopsy technician to be such a fascinating job

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Speaker 1: for so many different reasons. Don't forget to subscribe to

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Speaker 1: my YouTube page at the Professional Homegirl because the full

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Speaker 1: video is already up. So sit back, relax, and enjoy

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Speaker 1: this week's episode Because I'm an autopsy technician.

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Speaker 2: It's starting now. Do you like scary shit?

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Speaker 3: It doesn't scare me.

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Speaker 4: Like my ex boyfriend, he's like with super in the heart,

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Speaker 4: he's super in the hard like we're still friends or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And he would always want me to watch these horrible

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, these are dumb, this would not happen.

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Speaker 3: This is not realistic.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh well, yeah, I guess you'd look.

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Speaker 4: I was like, this is an entertaining for me because

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, that's not how that would happen.

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Speaker 3: But okay, Like.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm like, because I love scary shit, and I'm.

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Speaker 4: Like psychological thrillers, like stuff that messages your mind, but

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Speaker 4: like actual like bory horror movies.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, this is silly. Did you like that?

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Speaker 2: Stir that?

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Speaker 3: Al?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dexter was fired. I don't like how they did

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Speaker 2: my die though, and they of this new one. I

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Speaker 2: don't like how he went out. So I would say,

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Speaker 2: in order for you to do this job, you would

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Speaker 2: have to be comfortable with death. So when did you

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Speaker 2: become so comfortable with it?

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Speaker 3: I'm funny enough, uh, like childhood, that's not I was.

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I've never been afraid of that. And I've been interested

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Speaker 4: in forensic since I was like a little girl. I

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Speaker 4: used to watch the X Files. She was not only

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Speaker 4: she was an agent, she was also the forensic pathologist,

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Speaker 4: like she did the alien autopsy. And I just thought

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Speaker 4: that was so cool. And then when CSI came along

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Speaker 4: when I was in like middle school.

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Speaker 3: I was like this is awesome. I'm like this is.

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Speaker 2: Wait. Is forensic pathologists the same thing as an autopsy technician.

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Speaker 3: That's the medical examler, that's their technical title.

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Speaker 4: A you can be a clinical pathologist where you're just

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Speaker 4: basically which is the pathology is the study of disease.

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Speaker 4: So clinically they're looking like if you are sick but

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Speaker 4: they don't know why you're sick, then you would probably

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Speaker 4: be seen by clinical pathologists to figure out.

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Speaker 3: Like House, he was a clinical pathologist.

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Speaker 4: Right, so you kind of figure out diagnose you with

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Speaker 4: whatever weird obscure disease. And it's the same thing with

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Speaker 4: a forensic pathologists. They're trying to determine cause and manner

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Speaker 2: I'm just curious. Now, do you think the media does

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Speaker 2: a good portrayal of the death care industry?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: And no.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's this thing called the CSI effect, which

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Speaker 4: where it's like it might take months sometimes years to

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Speaker 3: The type of case.

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Speaker 4: Like with infant cases, we do a battery of tests

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Speaker 4: just a physical autopsy. We're sending the brain to our

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Speaker 4: So it's like you have to wait for all of

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Speaker 3: Get a cause of death.

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Speaker 4: Right, people not five like okay, Well, on TV it's

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Speaker 3: And they know how they died, how long they had

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Speaker 4: First of all, most offices don't even have the resources

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Speaker 4: that you're like, right, we wish we had millions of dollars,

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Speaker 3: Every test we can think of an iry. It's like

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Speaker 2: True, because if somebody's watching all these shows and then

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Speaker 3: It could take eight twelve week, eight tell weeks.

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Speaker 4: I'm not like, I'm sorry, but that's just how long

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Speaker 4: it's gonna take. Right, I was like, and you have

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Speaker 3: Today, let alone this week, this month, this year. So

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Speaker 4: People dying every every year. So right, you'd have to

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Speaker 3: You gotta. Unfortunately, you have to wait your turn. I know,

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's rough. It's hard because you're grieving.

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Speaker 4: Which makes you think irrationally, but you just have to

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Speaker 4: be patient, right, And I didn't know, Well I guess

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Speaker 4: I did know this because people die every day.

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Speaker 2: But the death care industry is very lucrative.

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Speaker 3: On not on my end, but the funeral industry. Yes,

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Speaker 3: they they are. They are making money. Handover that that

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Speaker 2: Well you see why fans you were trying to open

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like a casket alone will run you a copper brand.

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Speaker 3: Let alone.

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Speaker 4: You paying for the burial applot, You paid for the cosmetology,

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Speaker 3: You paid through nose, So they did some good money.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you you became desensitized to death?

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Speaker 3: Yes, unfortunately, I will say mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, like when people like, you know, my

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Speaker 4: But you know, people dying at church, You're like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry, but okay, next conversation.

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Speaker 1: You know what's so funny because I was having this

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Speaker 1: today was like, I wonder, how often do you look

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Speaker 4: Well, I try to becompartments lives because if you look

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Speaker 4: you're not gonna get anything done, Okay, I promise. Especially

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Speaker 4: in my office, we are a high volume office because

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Speaker 4: we're the only Emmy's office for the entire state, so

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Speaker 3: Know, all over.

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Speaker 4: So we might have twenty cases a day. If I

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna get any work done if I work

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Speaker 2: MM. So what does an autopsy technician do? It all

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Speaker 2: depends each agency is different.

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Speaker 4: In my office, we're kind of a full service so

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Speaker 3: So we are fortunate enough to.

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Speaker 4: Have an X ray machine as well as a CT

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Speaker 4: scanner to scan cases on an as needed basis. We

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Speaker 4: perform those tasks as well as we also do the

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Speaker 4: photography of the deceased for like documenting injuries and as

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Speaker 4: we can drow them photo of the disease as well

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Speaker 3: So that why incision you've seen in movies and television?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, so ahead, No good? Oh and what type

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Speaker 2: of education do you need to become one.

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Speaker 3: In my office? You just need a high school diploma.

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Speaker 3: You learn everything on the job.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 4: Some people do have bachelor's degrees in a science and

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Speaker 4: some people do have mortuary science degrees as well.

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Speaker 3: But you just need to be eighteen with a high

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Speaker 2: I would think that you would need more. Could you learn?

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Speaker 3: I learned everything at work? Everything?

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Speaker 2: Oh wow? How was that experience? Just like just learning

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Speaker 3: It was? It was really cool. It was very cool.

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Speaker 4: See or basically get completely perspective change from what you've

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I want to say, I was gonna say, was

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Speaker 2: you afraid of HEARDing them.

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Speaker 4: But I mean no, Like, honestly, when people first start,

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Speaker 4: You're afraid you're gonna like mess something up, cut something

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Speaker 4: you're not supposed to. So you're like people like they're

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Speaker 4: dead Like it's okay, Like he's like, but I don't

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Speaker 3: They're like, you're not. You're not gonna mess it up.

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Speaker 3: It's fine, just right, we'll be here. You're gonna be

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Speaker 2: And I also feel like you have to have like

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Speaker 2: I would.

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Speaker 3: Say so, But I mean I know people whenever I

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Speaker 3: you're too pretty, You're too you have too much personality.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not, I'm not the corpse. I don't

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Speaker 3: what do you I was like, what do you need?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: I was like, what is what? What do you think

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Speaker 3: in autopsy? It's stick should look like I would like

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: That leads to my next question on like what are

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Speaker 2: the biggest misconceptions about autopsy technicians.

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Speaker 4: I don't even think it's about autopsy technicians. It's like

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Speaker 4: the office. They think you work in a basement. It's dark,

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, it's like any other offense.

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Speaker 4: I guess we're just doing we're just doing autop seas

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Speaker 2: Right, And how long have you been doing this?

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Speaker 4: It was nine years on the fourteenth, Oh my god, congratulations.

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Speaker 3: They flew When I say they flew by, they they

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Speaker 2: So we have an expert y'all. Come on, now, this

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Speaker 3: Why there?

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Speaker 4: So as far as getting started, they'll do their external examination,

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Speaker 4: In our office, we use the black and decker like

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Speaker 4: Sometimes we'll do a partial autopsy where they just want

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Speaker 3: Like ten fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: to hurt the baby. Yeah, oh I hate them.

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00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine. Do you do a lot on

446
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: babies or.

447
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 4: I personally see it's weird because we'll go like a

448
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 4: long span with no like piece cases, and then they'll

449
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 4: we'll get a season where it's like one or two

450
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,920
Speaker 4: a day for like two weeks, and then there.

451
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 3: Won't be any and then it'll Yeah, so we get

452
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: them in spurts. We don't really not.

453
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 4: It's not a consistent thing, especially like in the like

454
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 4: when the summer first breade, you get a lot of

455
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 4: kids drowning and pools and stuff, and you know, of

456
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 4: course like sids, sids babies and stuff like that. But

457
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 4: like they'll when I say they We'll go like months

458
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 4: with none, and then it seemed like every day there's

459
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 4: like three for like a week, and then there'll be

460
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 4: no more. So thankfully they come in spurts. It's not

461
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 4: like every day you're seeing a deceased child.

462
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 2: When it comes to you or your team, like, dude,

463
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: do certain people on team like doing certain type of bodies?

464
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: Like maybe you'd be like, you know what, I don't

465
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,479
Speaker 2: want to do babies and my I know my cowork

466
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: is gonna take care of it.

467
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean everybody kind of touching on everything.

468
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 4: But there are some people who are more comfortable and

469
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: more seasoned with like kids cases or like burned victims.

470
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 3: We have one tech who likes doing the isolation decomp cases,

471
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: and you can have that because I don't like fooler

472
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 3: with bugs and whatnot.

473
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 2: But what's the isolation dcomp case?

474
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 3: What is it decomposed?

475
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: Like people who are like bloated and like bugs and

476
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 4: they're like in the water, or or are like people

477
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: with communical diseases woms, you in isolation just so everyone's

478
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 4: not exposed to like tuberculosis or meningitis or hepatitis or HIV.

479
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 3: What do you like doing? I like doing homicide.

480
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: Bottom of it.

481
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: I like, because I mean they're like very I hate

482
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 4: to say relaxing, but it's just like you know, they're

483
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 4: very methodical, especially when they're like bullet retreats, when they're

484
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 4: projectile retrievals.

485
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: I like.

486
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 4: I like going on searching for like searching for bullets,

487
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 4: I don't like and seeing if I can find it

488
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 4: before the doctor finds it. For like one of my coworkers,

489
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 4: we all have the human medical Protector because I swear

490
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: don't look at an X ray and know exactly where

491
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 4: it is, like you'd be like, well, damn, like like

492
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 4: I like to and I have to call.

493
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: Him over right, like I'm competitive. I don't I don't

494
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: mind asking power, but I don't like help. I want

495
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 3: to do it myself.

496
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: Yes, right, how long he's kind of been doing it

497
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: for a very long time?

498
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 3: Then yeah?

499
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 4: And he when I say he can just look at

500
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 4: an excerpt, like look at an extra, be like it's

501
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 4: in the back, it's in the back to the left

502
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 4: and showing up you'll turn them over, go to the

503
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 4: back slightly to the left and it'll be right and

504
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: be like I've been looking for this thing for ado.

505
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: Thank you get away from me. You don't pissed me off?

506
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 4: Right?

507
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: Do you ever get backed up with doing our top six?

508
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: Usually no, we don't really have.

509
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 4: I mean, we had a backlog like earlier this year,

510
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: but that was an administed That was an administrative.

511
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 3: We unfortunately try to do everything the day comes in,

512
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: which and.

513
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 4: I say, I'm fortunate because then the funeral directors they've

514
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 4: become accustomed to you and oil two cases being done

515
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: within a twenty four hour time span, so then they're

516
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 4: like rushing you at work. They'd have made arrangement they

517
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: ain't got to buy, but they haven't made arrangements with

518
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 4: the family said they can't have it's been row on Thursday.

519
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 4: Why did you tell them that you don't have the

520
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: body yet? Well, we just we just assumed y'all would

521
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 4: y'all would have it. I'm like and that and more

522
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: than likely that is true, but you never know. The

523
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: doctor might put the case on hold for whatever reason.

524
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 4: But it's stood in discretion because technically the body is

525
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 4: dress section, not a medical examily's office until we say

526
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 4: it's not, so.

527
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: You can't be wait, so how can y'all keep a body?

528
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: I mean, usually it might be like a DA TWI,

529
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 4: like say it's a really bad homicide and they want

530
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 4: to just like we haven't found all. Everybody was just like,

531
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: you know what, we're tired, our eyes gonna cross, my

532
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 4: wound pants is don't make any sense.

533
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: Let me sleep on it and come back tomorrow with

534
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: fresh eyes and try.

535
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 4: Us again, right, maybe like a DARE two if they

536
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 4: have a name, if they're unknown, it's until they're identified, right.

537
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: And with you know, regular cases, it's usually like a

538
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: couple of days for that.

539
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 4: But if somebody's like skeletonized or severely decomposed and you

540
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 4: can't do fingerprints, you might have to do dental You

541
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 4: think you know who it is, You've got these dental records,

542
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 4: and now you've got to do a dental ct or

543
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: dental X ray to match.

544
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: So the we had friends of Golden colleges who come

545
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: in so they can look at the.

546
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 4: Control dental X ray and against our dental X ray

547
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: and say, yes, this is this person. Or sometimes we'll

548
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 4: have to send like the femur bone to out for

549
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 4: DNA testing, and that takes months to come back.

550
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 3: But usually it's like a day or two.

551
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 4: It's nothing crazy, but it's like, don't tell them they

552
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 4: can have it. Don't tell it's Tuesday. Don't tell them

553
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: they can't have services on Wednesday.

554
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 2: Get that money, baby, And I'm like, and I get.

555
00:28:53,960 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 3: It, but come on now, help me, help you. They're

556
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: gonna be calling down here. Plus I'm like, well, I

557
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: don't know why they made a rankness and they knew

558
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: they didn't have your loved one, right, I don't. I'm sorry.

559
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. We're working as fast as we can, but

560
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: we argument and things.

561
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: You know, have you ever seen something crazy inside of

562
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: a body. I almost got bitten by a live snake

563
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: that was in a body.

564
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 3: Yes, girl, Yes I did. Almost got bit by a

565
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: live snake.

566
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: The snake inside the body.

567
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So this case was like, this was a couple

568
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: of years ago. This guy was like, I don't know.

569
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: There was a bad storm in like Pennsylvania, and I

570
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 4: guess he couldn't shelter anywhere like he was I guess

571
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 4: in a field or something. And so instead of like

572
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: trying to shelter a place from where he had nowhere

573
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: to go, so he like wrapped himself.

574
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 3: Around the tree. The tree got uprooted, it floated down stream.

575
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: It ended up here.

576
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 4: Somebody was on their property property forging for mushrooms and

577
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 4: found this supontified muddy thing. They didn't know what it was,

578
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 4: so they called the police. They airlifted it. There was

579
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 4: a person in there somewhere, and they airlifted it to

580
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 4: our office basically, And so I come into work. First

581
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 4: of all, I was late, like I'm keeper late that day.

582
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 3: I don't even know why.

583
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: I don't remember why. I just remember I was really late.

584
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 4: So I get in and I'm like, what, like, what

585
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 4: am I? What's my case assignment? And everybody's like sniggling

586
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: and giggling.

587
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 3: Okay. So I go in the room and it looked

588
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: like a tree trunk in.

589
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: A rescue basket on an autopsy table and I was

590
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: just like what is that? And they're like, I'm like

591
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: there's a person in that flight okay whatever.

592
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I don't even know what to do.

593
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even know what to do. I

594
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know what to do. So I

595
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 3: started cutting.

596
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 4: So I turned and I'm working with a fellow because

597
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: we're teaching facilities, we trained future pathologists. So I'm working

598
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 4: with a fellow and I had my bank turned and

599
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 4: I'm talking to him and he's like snake, and I'm like, huh, and.

600
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: Mind you, he's like where is he from? Where he

601
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: was from? I ran, which is mean to.

602
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 4: Him on there, but he was just very like mellow,

603
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: very monotone, very like didn't get excited, right, you didn't

604
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 4: get excited.

605
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: He was just like snake. And I was just like, huh, snake.

606
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I know he's not saying snake. He

607
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: can't be saying snake. Why wouldn't be saying snake, but snake?

608
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: I love.

609
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: I see a tongue in a nose just darting at me.

610
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 4: I'll just thing persons spy. And I ran when I say,

611
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm at working at a station. That's like

612
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 4: at the door. I ran to the back of the room.

613
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: I just ran.

614
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: And mind you, we're like a teaching pacific you like

615
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: I said, so we had torn throups like to put

616
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: police cadets and fire and all kinds of step. There's

617
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 4: a whole tour group up there, and I was like,

618
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: I don't give damn about them. I'm not going over there.

619
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 4: And so y'all get the snake because I don't. I

620
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 4: don't mess with snakes like that when they not when they're.

621
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: Not in a cage. I was like, I don't know

622
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: what cow snake it is? Is a poisonous is it not?

623
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 4: I can't get bitten the behind and then go to

624
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 4: the hospital and they ain't got no anti venom because

625
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 4: we end up we are in Baltimore City, right, I can't.

626
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, no, somebody go ahead and get

627
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: the snake. If you want me to come back over

628
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 4: there and finish what I'm doing. Somebody got get it

629
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 4: because I'm not.

630
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna make over there yet. And so somebody

631
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: get it.

632
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: Wait, so how did so how did he did the

633
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: person die from like a snake.

634
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 3: Bite or how they died? They just they died.

635
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: They probably drowned and then they like decomposed, and so

636
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 4: you know, the little creatures and the little fish and

637
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 4: all the stuff made of home and what was left

638
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: or and we're snacking on what was left and snakes

639
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 4: slithered and south going up in there and was chilling,

640
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: and so I disturbed it by trying to do the

641
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: autopsy and it was like.

642
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: Well, bench little brown and white.

643
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, no, dang, god that they

644
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: got you at your co worker gave me the heads

645
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: up cause because could you imagine, Yeah, and then were gonna.

646
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: Look at the X ray and you can see like

647
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: this little they thought it was a It was like

648
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 4: we thought that was a shadow.

649
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: We had no idea that was actually, Oh my god.

650
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: I start crying.

651
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: I went to walk. I was like, I'm not going back.

652
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: I mean when I said I was freaking the fun out,

653
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm not going back on that. But

654
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: I'm not. No, no, I'm not doing it. I don't care.

655
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: I don't care. I was like, I'm fire me right

656
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: now because I'm not coming back.

657
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 4: On the bed.

658
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: Dance.

659
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: What would you say? It was one of the hardest

660
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: days you a counter at work?

661
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 3: Oh god, there's been a lot of let's see the

662
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: hardest days. I don't know about hardest, but like one

663
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: of the craziest days.

664
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 4: We had somebody that had been like dismembered and they

665
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 4: were like just on different trade taables and it was

666
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: just like, wait, what is the because all the pieces

667
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 4: came in separately, like it was like a gang situation,

668
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: and they like cut this person up and like scanned

669
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 4: their body parts all over an apartment complex, and so

670
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 4: they like finding found an arm over here, and a

671
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 4: leg over there, and the toss over here and the

672
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 4: head over and you just walk in and it's like

673
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: two different tables with different parts of this person on the.

674
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, okay, this is a lot.

675
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

676
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: And then I had a case.

677
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 4: I was like, I'll never watch CCTV because sometimes the

678
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 4: detectives will bring in like the video, the surveilance video

679
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 4: if it gets caught on tape. And I watched the

680
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 4: like there was this like guy that went on a

681
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: shooting spree and shot a bunch of his coworkers, and

682
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: you see two guys running for their lives and I

683
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 4: see the guy that all top seed like just get

684
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: shot in the head.

685
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: And I'm just like oh.

686
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 4: And then just played on the leap in my in

687
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 4: my brain for like two weeks, and I was like, Okay, yeah,

688
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 4: never watching surreala State again.

689
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I feel like you being in Baltimore, Like

690
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: I thought, only imagine the amount of homicide cases you

691
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 2: deal with.

692
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 4: Well, we, like I said, we're we're I worked for

693
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 4: the State Emmy's Office for the State of Maryland and

694
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: we do the entire state we're the only Emmy's office

695
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: in the state, so it's not just Baltimore. And then

696
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: sometimes we end up with DC cases and sometimes we

697
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: end up with Delaware case. If you're on the wrong

698
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 4: side of seventy, you coming here instead over there.

699
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I'm my dad. What was the scariest

700
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: thing you've seen a body do pre or pre or

701
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: post exam? The body don't.

702
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: Do anything.

703
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: I've never don't.

704
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, dude, I mean the gurgling, the death gurgle,

705
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 4: that's not that's just gas being released. But I've never

706
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 4: had anyone sit up on me.

707
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: I've never like, does that happen? No, I was like,

708
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: in the nine years I've been.

709
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 4: Doing this, I've never seen anyone this pop up. Now,

710
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: they might be sit up when they come in because

711
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 4: they're in full riger and they died like in a

712
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 4: seated position and they're stiffed, but that's about it. Oh

713
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: my God, might grab you, but that like reach out

714
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 4: and grab you. But like when you're moving them around

715
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 4: because they're in full riger and they're like hands are

716
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 4: like they might like grip you.

717
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: I kind of got tugged a couple of times my approend.

718
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: I'm like what is it. I'm like, oh okay, and

719
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: you wasn't scared because.

720
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 4: I mean the body didn't move it just their hands

721
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 4: was like in this position. So I walked past and

722
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 4: it's like, Brad the loop of my house, Like, no,

723
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 4: it happens every day.

724
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: Do you have you walked past somebody slept your ass?

725
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 3: You did, It's happened. Yeah, I would lose my ship.

726
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, you're not in the dark

727
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: room by yourself, so it don't matter, like you know,

728
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: getting well. Somebody either rolled them over, which has happened,

729
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 4: or you moved the arm out the way and it

730
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: sprung back and.

731
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 3: You like it's like whatever, okay, Oh my god.

732
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: What's the most shocking thing you ever discovered while doing

733
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: the autopsy?

734
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 3: That snake?

735
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: Mmm? But have you ever like found something like like

736
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 2: have you like found something to like solved the case

737
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: or anything?

738
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 4: Or maybe the other day I had a case and

739
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: the guy had a he had a brainchamn mm hmmm.

740
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 3: The doctor she made a joke.

741
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 4: She was like, she's like, you should have done the

742
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 4: head first. You could have had a call to death.

743
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 4: I was like, next time, I'll give that a.

744
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: Wow.

745
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: But can you see what a brain tumor looks like.

746
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: I do not normal.

747
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: I mean, I like, I wait, I did you know?

748
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: And I was pulling the brain and I was like,

749
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: that's not normal.

750
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: Uh.

751
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: Doc, She's like, here's a dumer. I was like, yeah,

752
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 3: oh my god. Wow.

753
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: And what ways have your job affected your mental health?

754
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 3: Oh? It's I know, well now I know the take breaks.

755
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: I have PTO. I take time off when it gets

756
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 3: to be too much.

757
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 4: We have used as mental health days, So I take

758
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 4: them because I mean, it can be overwhelming.

759
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: Seeing death in all forms and fashions every day. That's

760
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 3: not that's not nor.

761
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you go to therapy for it?

762
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 4: Or I probably should, but I haven't started. I mean,

763
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 4: it doesn't affect me that way. It's just like sometimes

764
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 4: it's just depressed thing. I'm like, you know, I just

765
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 4: need a break, put this on pause, take a self

766
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: care day, get my get my mom.

767
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: Back together, and we can try to sin tomorrow.

768
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: Because I was like, unless jes like I like to say,

769
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: unless Jesus Jesus to walk the hole and wake them

770
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 4: people up, they gonna still be dead without what they

771
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: today or tomorrow, right, you know, I tell my office,

772
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: I'm telling people, my officers. I'm like, y'all are just

773
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 4: in a hurry up and y'all just rush.

774
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 3: What are we rushing for?

775
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: I like to know?

776
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 4: True, I'm like, I can get it if we was

777
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 4: like in the emergency girl or you know, in the

778
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: hospital doctor's office, but they're deceased and they're gonna be deceased.

779
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 4: Yes we want answer to this, Yes we want to

780
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: get stuff done, but there's no need to rush. Take

781
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 4: your time, take a break, step back, look at it

782
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 4: for the first pair of lies right right, it's it's

783
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 4: gonna be okay.

784
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 3: Guess what. We are in control. And that's the that's

785
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 3: the other thing. It's like people are like, well, the

786
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: police and the fact I'm like, yeah, guess what they

787
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 3: they have to wait because because we're in charge right.

788
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 4: Now, like the body is under our jurisdiction, not the

789
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: jurisdiction of the police. So that's the way, Like, okay,

790
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 4: I get.

791
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: So, how do your job?

792
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 3: Let me do that.

793
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: That's that's you know, Well, how do you know, like

794
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: how do you get raped? Like, how do you know

795
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: if we're doing your job? Bill? Like where do they

796
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: measure it off of?

797
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: We have PEPs? But I mean, uh, as long as

798
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: you're not screwing up.

799
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: Out here you're screwing you know, if you're screwing up,

800
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: also if you're screwing up.

801
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: But I mean, it's really not hard. It's not a race.

802
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 3: Take your time.

803
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 4: I had to build to being able to do an

804
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: autoty in fifteen to twenty minutes, but in.

805
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: The beginning I was taken. I might take forty five

806
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: minutes to an hour. Take your time, because that's what

807
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: you can't. Once you mess it up, Once you fuck

808
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 3: it up, you can't fix it, right, You can't. You can't.

809
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: You can't fix it, so you might as well take

810
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: your time so you don't fuck it up.

811
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 4: Right. That's bad football. But everybody's in a rush all

812
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 4: the time, you know, it's just our society. Everyone's in

813
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 4: a rush, like take it.

814
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: Time, right, I mean, they're not going nowhere, right.

815
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't.

816
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: If once you mess it up, it's messed up. You

817
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: can't get another way. It's not like you know, dissecting

818
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 4: the frog in anatomy in biology. You can't be like,

819
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 4: oh I messed up, give me another prog. No, this

820
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 4: is the only this person right, true?

821
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: Does this job make you question your religion.

822
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: No, you know, I mean everything happens in his divine time.

823
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: We might not understand it, but we're not meant to

824
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 3: understand it. We just have to accept it, right.

825
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 4: M I mean bad, it's unfortunate, but in the grand

826
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 4: scheme of things, obviously it's an It's it's an plan.

827
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: So I just I let him. I let I let

828
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: God do his thing, and I'm gonna be my thing.

829
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: Right and last, but not least, Can you see the

830
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: relaxer on the skull of blacking?

831
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 4: I know in the nineties, I've never no, now you

832
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 4: could see five. I've seen fibroids. I've seen. Matter of fact,

833
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 4: I had a case a couple.

834
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 3: Of months ago. Fibriard was so big we thought it

835
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: was a fetus. Like, yeah, I'm like God, I was like.

836
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 3: Because then I was like, oh God, I'm my head.

837
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: I was like, pizza, do make me all time to

838
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 3: just fetus. So I stepped away to do something. I

839
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: came back and I was like, what it was like

840
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: it was a fibroid. I was like it was. And

841
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: when I say it was, it looked like it looked

842
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: like a fetus. Like her The uterus was so swollen.

843
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 4: The woman looked, yeah, so I've seen I've seen fibroids,

844
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 4: but actually like seeing the relaxer on.

845
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: No, I wonder if she knew she had fibrarids.

846
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 3: She had to know, yeah, I mean as big as

847
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 3: it was, I would she knew.

848
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 4: But then you see people who are like carrying like

849
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 4: fluid because their livers are they have SPEs this and

850
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 4: they're like bellies and you see them people are like

851
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 4: hard that like.

852
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: Older, like especially like older men. But it was like, look,

853
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 3: they bellies look like really hard. Usually they're full of fluid.

854
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, and you wonder how they were walking

855
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 4: around with thirty five hundreds of soerotic fluid in their

856
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: abdomen for this long, because it's like it didn't just

857
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: get like this, It's been like this for a Why.

858
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

859
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: But I dot this makes you want to take better

860
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: care of your health too, because you like see all

861
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: these different diseases and stuff.

862
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 3: Yeah that's true.

863
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: Or now.

864
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: I take as good as that.

865
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I haven't eve been thinking God knows what.

866
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 4: So I mean I take as good as care of

867
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: myself as I can. But I mean some of these

868
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 4: things are just you have to understand that a lot

869
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff is Yes, it's environment and it's

870
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 4: how you take care of yourself, but a lot of

871
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 4: stuff also genetics something It's like, you know, it's the

872
00:44:59,080 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 4: luck of the draw.

873
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes.

874
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 4: I know diabetes runs in my family. I you know,

875
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: there are some cancers that run with my family. I'm

876
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 4: doing the best they can to not end up in

877
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 4: those situations.

878
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 3: But if they happen, they happen. I'll just have to

879
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 3: deal deal with it as it comes. But I'm really

880
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: healthy right now, and I take like I said, I

881
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: I hardly ever get sick.

882
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 4: I think the last time I was sick on a titus.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, I don't even make out that does

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Speaker 4: mean said they have an asthma history. I have an

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Speaker 4: asthma history. So get a little dusty. I'm a start

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Speaker 4: wheezing right.

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Speaker 2: One more thing, would you do an autopsy on the

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Speaker 2: loved one?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah I would. I would get a trusted co

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Speaker 4: worker to do the autopsy, or hopefully they will well

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Speaker 4: will and they won't need one, because not everyone gets

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Speaker 4: an autopsy. It's usually just if you're not under a

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Speaker 4: doctor's care, or you may have like a recreational drug

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Speaker 4: or alcohol history or something like not recreational and addiction.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So even if you've been cleaned for like fifteen years,

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Speaker 4: they would still bring you in because potentially, even if

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Speaker 4: it was natural, it might have been exasperated by your

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Speaker 4: drug use. Because most people don't like like cocaine users.

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Speaker 4: They don't usually die from an overdose per se. It's

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Speaker 4: usually a heart it's usually cardiac arrest.

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Speaker 3: Right, because it's a simulant.

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Speaker 2: So well, I thought everybody get an autopsy done.

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Speaker 3: Not everyone needs one.

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Speaker 4: It's if you're not under a doctor's care, if you

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Speaker 4: like with decomposed cases, not can't always tell if there's

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Speaker 4: trauma or not, so they're gonna bring you in for

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Speaker 4: an all topic.

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Speaker 3: We make sure that there was no foul play.

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Speaker 4: But if you have a primary care doctor that you've

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Speaker 4: been saying no every year for your physical or if

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Speaker 4: you have any physical ailments.

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Speaker 3: And they've been monitoring them and you pass away, they

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Speaker 3: can sign your DUSTS certificate you don't need an autopsy.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think this was very informative. I definitely learned

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Speaker 2: a lot.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: To the listeners. If you have any questions, comments or concerns,

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Speaker 2: or if you want to say hey girl, Hey, please

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Speaker 2: email me at hello at the psgpodcast dot com and

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Speaker 2: until next time, everyone later later.

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