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Speaker 1: Of course, played nine years major League baseball. I want

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Speaker 1: to start with last night's Aaron Judge home run. Actually,

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Speaker 1: talk about all the layers to the home run. The

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Speaker 1: Yankees were down three runs. It was in the fifth inning,

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Speaker 2: Here's the pitch, high flight ball, deep left field, down

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Speaker 3: It is off the fair pole. Hey now, hey, now hey.

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Speaker 4: Now three m overhead and judge, this game is tired.

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Speaker 4: It's six sex.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable, unbelievable talent in an Aaron Judge. That ball was

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Speaker 1: one hundred miles an hour with a late movement on

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Speaker 1: his hands, and he put that thing what would have

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Speaker 1: been him now for the foul pole into the third

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Speaker 1: deck right down the line, just an absolute rocket. So

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Speaker 1: it's caused some people to go, Aaron Judge, that's his moment.

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Speaker 1: Matter of fact, Joe Davis on the call on Fox said,

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Speaker 1: if it goes, if it's fair, it's his moment. It

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Speaker 1: was his moment. Jason Stewart, on the other hand, who

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Speaker 1: of course said that Mookie Betts was not clutched before

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Speaker 1: Mookie Bets became clutched last year, Like, it doesn't really

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Speaker 1: eliminate all of the This is a nothing game in

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Speaker 1: comparison to CS games or World Series games and real

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Speaker 1: clutch games, and so it doesn't count on the Jason

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Speaker 1: Stewart scale of clutchness. Is that about right, Chase two?

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Speaker 3: I never said anything about questions, I understand, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is Everyone thinks this is a signature moment. In fact,

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Speaker 3: Cowherd opened his show this way you need.

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Speaker 4: A moment last night. Aaron Judge, Yeah, finally had his moment.

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Speaker 3: I think that that's an amalgamation of like all the

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Speaker 3: blue check marks on Twitter last night who said, finally

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Speaker 3: Aaron Judge has delivered his postseason moment.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I just do I think this

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Speaker 1: is this should be his final moment like no, but

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Speaker 1: they were down three runs. It was looking bleak. The

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Speaker 1: Yankee starting pitching, which is supposedly their strength, has gotten

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Speaker 1: lit up in all three games. And Aaron Judge is

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Speaker 1: the guy who with one swing can kind of even

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Speaker 1: the playing field. And he did. And it wasn't It

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Speaker 1: wasn't a tater, it wasn't a hung slider, it wasn't

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Speaker 1: do what he did, and he did it. Anyway, do

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Speaker 1: I think it's his signature moment that forever is going

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Speaker 1: to last. No. Do I think we should diminish and

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Speaker 1: say well, because it's in the DS, it doesn't measure

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Speaker 1: same Jason. It's still on you to perform or your

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Speaker 1: team likely goes home, and he did perform. Now, baseball

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Speaker 1: So again, I don't think it's this. It shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: for not just a home run, but one that actually mattered,

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Speaker 1: and we got one last night. I don't know that

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Speaker 1: it changed the entire playoffs. Now to your point, they

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Speaker 1: and did it really do anything? But if you build

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Speaker 1: on it, that's the moment where the hit started coming.

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Speaker 1: That's the moment when the homer started coming. That's the

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Speaker 1: moment that Aaron Judge regular season starts being Aaron Judge postseason.

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Speaker 1: That's where I would sort of meet people halfway that

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Speaker 1: you may find that Jay Stude to be a fence sitter.

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Speaker 1: That's just the reality of it. It's no different than

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Speaker 1: You can't become a clutch player or a guy who

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Speaker 1: got him last night. Isn't anybody who watched that game,

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Speaker 4: Of course.

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Speaker 1: Right. It's just like you know, if you come back

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Speaker 1: in overtime, it's like, well, you know, it was a

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Speaker 1: great player, But does it really change things? I think

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Speaker 1: for Aaron Judge, the fact that that's his moment to

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Speaker 1: this point shows how disappointing he's been the playoffs. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't become a triggering moment if it doesn't trigger a

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Speaker 1: think that's the moment things turned. That's the moment things flipped.

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Speaker 1: That's the moment that the Blue Jays understood they're facing

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Speaker 4: Dan Barr, what do you think, Well, I look at it.

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Speaker 5: If the Yankees lose today, then everybody who talked about

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Speaker 5: this being a moment looks silly. And I don't think

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Speaker 5: that there's a lot on the line for people in

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Speaker 5: calling this this historic moment, the call last night of

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Speaker 5: being his moment, mind you, for a team that has

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Speaker 5: won twenty seven World championships. But we're going to do

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Speaker 5: it again, as it's been stated in Game three of

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Speaker 5: I just think it's a prisoner of the moment scenario.

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Speaker 5: Judge is hitting what five hundred in this postseason right now,

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Speaker 5: and it felt like it felt like those who are

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Speaker 5: Aaron Judge has done, They're like, Okay, now do you

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Speaker 4: Now? Do you see it?

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Speaker 5: And I think it's the fault of people who didn't

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Speaker 5: see it previously. This home run was a great moment

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Speaker 5: last night, but I want to see if it does

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Speaker 5: change the tide. Does it become Dave Roberts stealing second base?

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Speaker 5: In Game four? Do the Yankees go on a run?

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Speaker 5: And I just don't think that the people that are

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Speaker 5: saying on what a great magical moment it is think

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Speaker 5: that it's a Dave Roberts moment. I think they just

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Speaker 5: want to say it now and then if the Yankees lose,

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Speaker 5: it just goes off into the atmosphere and nobody really

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Speaker 5: talks about it again. But because I don't think that

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Speaker 5: a home run in Game three of an Alds is

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Speaker 5: the moment.

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Speaker 3: Take that one step further, Doug, if this is his

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Speaker 3: signature moment that at the end of everything, we look

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Speaker 3: back on this career and say, oh, and he also

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Speaker 3: hit a three run homer to tie a game in

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Speaker 3: the fourth inning of a divisional series. That's going to

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Speaker 3: be an indictment on the Yankees for not cashing in

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Speaker 3: having one of the top two people in baseball for

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Speaker 3: ten fifteen years, Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So I feel like Dan and I are

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Speaker 1: saying the same thing. Are you coming around to what

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Speaker 5: Jason, I don't think last by the way, I don't

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Speaker 5: think last night was magical. If you thought, if you

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Speaker 5: took that from that, Dan was not saying what you

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Speaker 5: were saying. Yeah, yeah, Dan is.

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Speaker 3: More measured, a more measured version of what I was saying.

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Speaker 3: But this was one moment in time that people overreacted

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Speaker 3: to due to a recency bias.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and I don't think that people are saying I

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Speaker 5: think that like the day that I used the Dave

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Speaker 5: that series when he had the stolen base.

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Speaker 5: No, And so now we look back and say, ah,

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Speaker 5: that's the moment. Now people want to have receipts, they

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Speaker 5: want to tweet out, they want to say, hey, I

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Speaker 5: called it. This turned it around, because Doug, if it

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Speaker 5: does happen, guess what they call it. They know baseball.

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Speaker 5: to the Netherlands. I just not not Holland. But you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean, it's it's just such an overreaction.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, I just yeah, I just think it's a

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Speaker 1: I can't stand this world. People are intolerant of other

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, very nice, very nice. I think you guys

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Speaker 1: are diminishing it. Last night, I just do that. Yankee

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Speaker 1: and if Aaron Judge strikes out swinging in a bad pitch.

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Speaker 1: Then you know, then the stadium empties early, and he

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Speaker 1: what he did. And I mean, I was, ironically like

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm swayed by the fact that I feel the

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Speaker 1: the energy. I felt the energy of Yankee Stadium shift,

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Speaker 1: and you had to ask yourself, like, how many other

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Speaker 1: totally agree with you Dan that if it's left out

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Speaker 1: Gottlieb Show on Instagram. It does feel like it's one

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Speaker 3: It was an amazing moment last night, amazing moment, and.

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Speaker 7: It's time for Stuck in the Middle. The midway.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the midway. Every week, this is the middle of

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Speaker 1: Jay stew what's topic today?

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here.

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Speaker 7: I'll take it from here.

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Speaker 3: So I do want to do some what is it

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Speaker 4: First.

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Speaker 3: it's an indictment on the Yankees. I think Dan's opinion

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Speaker 3: for Life seven says one thousand percent agree with Jason.

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Speaker 4: Astros go on to win the series.

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Speaker 5: They lose to the White Sox in the World Series

436
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Speaker 5: that year, but yeah, that that moment stands out. Brad

437
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Speaker 5: Lidge was the guest that I was able to track

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Speaker 5: down because he got the final out of the eight

439
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Speaker 5: World Series and I was able to track him down

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Speaker 5: for Fox Sports Radio as they beat the Rays in

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Speaker 5: a in a rain delayed game that they had to

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Speaker 5: resume in the sixth inning. I'll give you another name

443
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Speaker 5: because I think that it was a name that we

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Speaker 5: all loved growing up, most people loved, and it was

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Speaker 5: Kirby Puckett of the Minnesota Twins Game six, nineteen ninety

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Speaker 5: one World Series and just too yeah for the game.

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Speaker 5: The the home run is that Jack buck with the

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Speaker 5: with the call, So yeah, Kirby Pucket.

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Speaker 3: That's a great one. Hall of Famer by the way,

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Speaker 3: So he had an abridged career because he got hit

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Speaker 3: in the eye. Right, goes to the Hall of Fame,

452
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Speaker 3: and then I remember him. This is his signature moment

453
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Speaker 3: with me. That scathing article written about him.

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Speaker 1: And like he's just like the worst human being everone.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. So it's hard to look past those

456
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Speaker 3: details at that amazing home run and a great career.

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Speaker 3: He was fun to watch. What was he like? Five

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Speaker 3: foot two?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to get the official measurements.

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Speaker 1: I mean he could take Al two bay in the post. Right,

461
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Speaker 1: he's bigger than Ol two Bay.

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Speaker 3: If who's Al two B and Kyler Murray had a baby,

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Speaker 3: it would be Kirby Pucket.

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Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw's signature moment.

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Speaker 6: Is what.

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Speaker 4: Now do you have one?

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Speaker 1: I'm asking, I'm asking masking Jay stew He's seen every

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Speaker 1: every game, every inning he's pitched.

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Speaker 3: I think for the purpose of this exercise, if one

470
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Speaker 3: doesn't readily come to mind, that means he's disqualified. He

471
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Speaker 3: is going to go his career unless he unless he

472
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Speaker 3: has one this this October, he's going to go to

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Speaker 3: his career with that, that one signature moment, and I

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Speaker 3: think so that kind of adds to the conversation about

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Speaker 3: his postseason legacy.

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Speaker 4: Was five eights according to Baseball Reference.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it's five o' five.

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Speaker 1: He was three inches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you always have to take three inches off of

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Speaker 3: the internet. Ask any woman that's been on tender pause.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Jeter, it's the it's the what is it? The scoop.

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Speaker 4: That of the dive headfirst down and the.

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Speaker 1: Dive, the dive into the stands.

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Speaker 5: But the scoop was postseason, right, was the dive postseason? No,

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Speaker 5: that was a regular season game? Which was the dive

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Speaker 5: into the stands? Was a regular season game?

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Speaker 3: Yep?

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Speaker 5: Really yes, But the scoop was playoff game right against

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Speaker 5: the A's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that one I remember again specifically against the A's.

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Speaker 3: So Gibson is maybe the top of the Mount Rushmore here.

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Speaker 1: It's literally the greatest baseball moment in my life.

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Speaker 3: It's like one of those things. I think, guys that

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Speaker 3: if Gibson ever made the Hall of Fame and they're

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Speaker 3: letting everybody in nowadays post humus, whatever the word is,

496
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Speaker 3: if I think on his plaque will be a reference

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Speaker 3: to the home runoff Eckers. But I mean, how many

498
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Speaker 3: Hall of Famers could have an actual moment in the

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Speaker 3: paragraph that sums up their career, You know, like Willie

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Speaker 3: Mays is in the Hall of Fame. His signature moment

501
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Speaker 3: is the nineteen fifty four catch running away from home

502
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Speaker 3: plate four hundred and twenty five feet from home plate.

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Speaker 3: But that catch is not in the summary of his

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame career. It's not It is not on

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Speaker 3: the plaque.

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Speaker 1: No oh, in the unplaque in the play Okay.

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Speaker 5: I was actually on TikTok within the last twenty four

508
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Speaker 5: hours and came upon this Goose Gossage sound bite how

509
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Speaker 5: the Padres are facing the Tigers in the eighty four

510
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Speaker 5: World Series and Gossage is about to be pulled and says, no,

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Speaker 5: I've been really really good against this guy. I've been

512
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Speaker 5: really really good. At first pitch, Gibson homers and seals

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Speaker 5: the deal for the Tigers. They win in nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 5: So for Gibson to have two World Series home runs

515
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Speaker 5: the U is even more spectacular. But to start, contrast

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Speaker 5: of how we look at Gibson to what Joe Carter

517
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Speaker 5: did in winning the World series, Gibson set the tone.

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Speaker 4: Eckersley was game one.

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Speaker 6: Ye.

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Speaker 5: Yes, the injury, the dramatics of it, but in the moment,

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Speaker 5: I think it's difficult to top what Joe Carter did

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Speaker 5: into hitting the walk off to win it all.

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Speaker 3: That's absolutely true. So I've always had my theory about this.

524
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Speaker 3: It's the Hollywood thing because it happened in Hollywood. It's

525
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Speaker 3: a Hollywood story. It is more magnified. What happened in

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia or Toronto is less significant in the grand scheme

527
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Speaker 3: of things narrative wise. But you're right, Joe Carter's was

528
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Speaker 3: the winning home run in a World series. Kirk Gibson

529
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Speaker 3: just started the series one zero. But if you factor

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Speaker 3: in everything, if you like explained it to your grandkids,

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Speaker 3: Eckersley had not walked one batter the entire season, and

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Speaker 3: he walked about it in front of Kirk Gibson. Eckersley's

533
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Speaker 3: era and his whip were almost zero the entire season.

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Speaker 3: It was a true David and Goliath. The A's had

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Speaker 3: won like one hundred and ten games. The Dodgers were

536
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Speaker 3: not that great. I think Bob Cossis famously said it's

537
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Speaker 3: the worst lineup to ever play in a World Series.

538
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Speaker 3: So when you take those storylines, it kind of makes

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Speaker 3: sense why Gibs has kind of tested the oh.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna, hey, do you guys want to hear

541
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Speaker 1: Mike Trout's greatest postseason moment?

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 1: I want to hear it again. And I'm an angel fan.

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Speaker 1: There there is one other part of this that we

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Speaker 1: should probably bring up. It's that the reason there's a

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Speaker 1: reason that so many of these guys that were great players,

547
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Speaker 1: that are Hall of Famers don't have these moments because

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Speaker 1: I think those moments actually don't represent who the best

549
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Speaker 1: players are. Like David Freese had two home runs for

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals in Game six, Game six of the World Series,

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Speaker 1: and they're both down to the last strike. I mean, David

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Speaker 1: Freese his career flamed out afterwards. Like oftentimes, the hitting

553
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Speaker 1: hero is not the superstar, it's somebody on the superstar.

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Speaker 3: YEP.

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing that's that's unique about baseball.

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Speaker 3: Well, the other side of that coin is is that

557
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: most Hall of famers never even get postseason chances. I mean,

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00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: how many.

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Speaker 1: Like Croud he got three chances against Kanctate Chiefs, the

560
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Speaker 1: kans City Worlds and that's.

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Speaker 3: It correct, And it's like that, it's a long list

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Speaker 3: of people in the Hall of Fame that never even

563
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Speaker 3: got a chance for a moment. That's why it's so

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Speaker 3: unique that we're talking about this today. To have a

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame player have a amazing moment in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: Everything has to come together. I mean Reggie Jackson's three

567
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Speaker 3: home runs in seventy seven and that the game against

568
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Speaker 3: the Dodgers, not one moment, but everyone associates Reggie with

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Speaker 3: those three home runs against the Dodgers in Game six

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Speaker 3: of the World Series.

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Speaker 5: I would also say that there's interesting there's names that

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Speaker 5: pop up so like like Dye Chavez on the Mats,

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Speaker 5: Like you think of the you know, robbing the home

574
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Speaker 5: run in the NLCS in a game that they lost, Okay,

575
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Speaker 5: like the Cardinals went on to win the World Series,

576
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Speaker 5: but like that play is one that is still fondly

577
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Speaker 5: remembered by by many, even Mets fans. Luis Gonzalez, I

578
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Speaker 5: don't think you think anything but Game seven, two thousand

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Speaker 5: and one, right, like Edgar Rinteria ninety seven and winning

580
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Speaker 5: it for the Marlins. There's just names that I think

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Speaker 5: that that pop up and you immediately think of those

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Speaker 5: individual single moments.

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Speaker 1: Like Pedro Martinez is probably the best picture of my lifetime.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think, Like I think, I think Pedro

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Speaker 1: Martinez the best picture I've ever seen. I've seen throw baseball. Again,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that means he was and

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Speaker 1: I don't study, but like in terms of dominance of

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Speaker 1: a picture, because he had all the different things. He

589
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Speaker 1: was a pitcher who also had overwhelming stuff, right, whereas

590
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Speaker 1: like Maddox was more about pitching as opposed to arm talent.

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Speaker 1: I think Randy Johnson was unbelievably dominant, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of that was just the power size. You know, he

593
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Speaker 1: could reach halfway to home plate when he's throwing a baseball.

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Speaker 1: Pedro had all of it right, unbelievable movement, multiple pitches,

595
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Speaker 1: and then great power, great stuff. But his signature moment

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Speaker 1: is probably when he got lit up by the Yankees

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Speaker 1: in three Isn't it? Like he had other moments, but

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Speaker 1: that's he had moments with the Indians when he was

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs where he was the best pitcher in

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Speaker 1: baseball and it was freaky stuff. The Indians just weren't

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Speaker 1: that good. So when he pitched, they won, and when

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Speaker 1: he didn't pitch, they didn't. Yeah. Does Pedro have another

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Speaker 1: signature moment?

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Speaker 3: No? No, no, Again, you're proving kind of the point of

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Speaker 3: the exercise here. If you can't think of one, he

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Speaker 3: doesn't have.

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Speaker 1: No, I can think of one. The one I can

608
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Speaker 1: think of as a negative. That's the thing that Petron

609
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Speaker 1: I just going back out there in the seventh inning.

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Speaker 1: Grady Little shakes his hand, then tells him he's going

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Speaker 1: back in, goes back in and gets lit up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's his moment, just like Aaron Judge's signature,

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Speaker 3: a moment I think is an Aaron center field but

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Speaker 3: pitched for the Indians, right pro No, he pitched against

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Speaker 3: him a lot.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, No, I was.

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Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, I think that there's one

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Speaker 5: name and io was. Sam brought it up in the

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Speaker 5: break twenty ten that we stand out we lost them

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Speaker 5: too early. But Sam, you mentioned a guy like Roy

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Speaker 5: Halliday who had the uh the no no.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, his sons just throw out the first pitch in

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Speaker 3: Game two.

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Speaker 4: Ryan Berschinger actually helped me.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 4: He came up with that, so I should give him

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Speaker 4: credit for that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, No, that was but he had a perfect game

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Speaker 5: that year and then throws the no hitter. I mean,

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Speaker 5: and you think of all of that. I mean, they

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Speaker 5: have a postseason no hitter only him.

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Speaker 1: And and at Wainwright game, he pitched incredible. He gave

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Speaker 1: up one run I don't even know if it's earned

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Speaker 1: and lost that game. Well, that's the thing, to give

635
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Speaker 1: up one run to the Cardinals lose, and like nobody mentioned,

636
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Speaker 1: somebody cares well.

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Speaker 3: You talk about starting pitchers, You've mentioned two in this segment,

638
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Speaker 3: Kershaw and Pedro Martinez. Like how hard is it to

639
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Speaker 3: have a signature moment? If you're a starting pitcher, you

640
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 3: literally have to do what Roy Halliday did and pitch

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Speaker 3: the entire game. Otherwise, who's going to remember you striking

642
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Speaker 3: out the side in the fourth inning of a big game?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Don Larson's perfect game is a perfect example.

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Speaker 3: Larson wasn't a Hall of Famer, but he threw a

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Speaker 3: perfect game in the World Series. It's never happened.

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Speaker 1: And that is the Midway.

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Speaker 1: the state of Ohio, doesn't have to leave the division.

654
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Speaker 1: Bengals desperately needed a quarterback. Odd fit, no doubt right,

655
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Speaker 1: and Flacco earlier in his career, if you go back

656
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Speaker 1: to his days at pitt at Delaware, was actually he's

657
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Speaker 1: actually pretty athletic. But you know, at this age and

658
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Speaker 1: the longer he's played, the more of a statue he's become.

659
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Speaker 1: But behind that offensive line that seems like a stretch.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, he's a veteran, he's won a

661
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, He's dealt with these some of these sorts

662
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Speaker 1: of situations in Indie and obviously putting out fires in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I guess it makes sense. Is best available? Anyway, Yesterday

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Speaker 1: there was one report that Shador Sanders was going to

665
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Speaker 1: be the number two quarterback, member he wasn't the number

666
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Speaker 1: two quarterback before this. It was actually Joe Flacco because

667
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Speaker 1: dal and Gabriel had been named starter. Gabriel was solid

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Speaker 1: as as a first time starter. Although they lost this

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Speaker 1: past weekend. Here's Kevin Stefanski, head coach of the Browns.

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Speaker 1: When who's ask something, Oh, oh, go ahead, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: Jase to.

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Speaker 3: So on the point that you were just making that

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Speaker 3: one report yesterday, Cameron wolf of NFL Network, right, and

674
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Speaker 3: people started to just run with that that that was

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Speaker 3: sh Shauduur's gonna be number two. The one guy that

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Speaker 3: didn't was Dan Byer, Like from the second we put

677
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Speaker 3: it on the group text, Dan was not believing Cameron

678
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Speaker 3: Wolfe's report that Shaduur was going to be number two,

679
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Speaker 3: and he said something like this on the air about it.

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Speaker 5: And I also don't think that Shador Sanders is the

681
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Speaker 5: guarantee to be the backup quarterback. And it has nothing

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Speaker 5: to do with Sanders. It would just be surprising to

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Speaker 5: me that the Browns would have two rookie quarterbacks be

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Speaker 5: there one and two. At this point, Bailey Zappi is

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Speaker 5: actually on the team's practice squad. Sure to me, that

686
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Speaker 5: makes a lot more sense if if she.

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Speaker 1: If he's the number if he's the number two, yes, Well.

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Speaker 5: What the Browns are also saying at this point is

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Speaker 5: a week ago Shadoor wasn't good enough to be the

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Speaker 5: backup quarterback to Dylan Gabriel, right, because they said that

691
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Speaker 5: Joe Flakka was going to be the backup. So after

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Speaker 5: one game, so in seven days in London, mind you,

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Speaker 5: they've now made the decision that Shador is ready for

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Speaker 5: that backup role. I don't necessarily think that that's the case.

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Speaker 5: Some of the talk about Shador, as you pointed out,

696
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Speaker 5: wasn't even doing scout team stuff for them. So now

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Speaker 5: they're gonna, you know, have him be a snap away

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Speaker 5: from starting. I just I don't know, okay, So.

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Speaker 1: Dan Bayern NAILI it go ahead, Dan.

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Speaker 5: I just he may be named this backup later this week,

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Speaker 5: whatever the case is, but it's not a guarantee. And

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Speaker 5: I think everybody jumped to the conclusion yesterday that Shador

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Speaker 5: is going to be the backup.

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Speaker 4: I just didn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Let's take a listen to Kevin Spancy, he's head

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Speaker 1: coach of the Browns, when he was asked about shouldor.

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Speaker 2: Sanders decided if Shador is going to be your number

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Speaker 2: two active quarterback for this weekend?

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Speaker 6: Yet?

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Speaker 2: Well, first I'd tell you is that Joe Trade took

711
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Speaker 2: us by surprise. That was not something that we saw coming.

712
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Speaker 2: You know, they called us and you know that's uh.

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Speaker 2: It was happened very fast and happened not too long ago.

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Speaker 2: So still working through all roster type of things. I

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Speaker 2: just I always have to be mindful of our players

716
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Speaker 2: and our players' development, and you know, I want to

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Speaker 2: make sure that I'm always doing what's best for our

718
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Speaker 2: players and of course our team. But you know, with

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Speaker 2: young players, I'm always thinking about last week making the

720
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Speaker 2: change with to Dylan. You have to think long and

721
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Speaker 2: hard about that because these are these are young players

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Speaker 2: that you're so invested in their development. So I'll let

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Speaker 2: the week play out, make a decision later on that.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what I think. I think he's

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Speaker 1: waiting to see if he gets his way, right. I

726
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Speaker 1: think you could you could hear or maybe he couldn't

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Speaker 1: that he agrees with you, Dan. He gotta have a

728
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Speaker 1: veteran guys to back up. You gotta have somebody who's

729
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Speaker 1: done it before you got it. But he also has

730
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Speaker 1: an owner who very likely made the call for them

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Speaker 1: to draft Shodoor Sanders. And I think he's like, I'll

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Speaker 1: let you know at the end of the week, right,

733
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Speaker 1: because if he had his way, he would go like, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Sappy at two, He'll be at three,

735
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Speaker 1: and that's how we'll go. But he also wants to

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Speaker 1: keep his job, and you will not keep your job

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Speaker 1: if you say something which directly contradicts the owner. And

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Speaker 1: more than a very a very strong guess is like

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Speaker 1: you said, he didn't know the Flacco thing was coming.

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Speaker 1: He didn't see it coming, and by the time he

741
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Speaker 1: told about it, he's like, well, I got it. What

742
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Speaker 1: am I doing? I don't even know yet. I know

743
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Speaker 1: what I want to do, but I can't do it

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Speaker 1: unless I get approval from the owner. All Right, we'll

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Speaker 1: circle back to that in a moment. First, I want

746
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Speaker 1: to welcome in Dougie Glanville. He does a great job

747
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Speaker 1: calling games on ESPN with Boog Shamby. Of course, Boog

748
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Speaker 1: is the voice of the Cubs during the regular season.

749
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Speaker 1: Tonight you'll hear him on ESPN Glanville. Of course, Doug

750
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Speaker 1: played nine years in the majors. Longtime baseball writer commentator.

751
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Speaker 1: As well, he launched his own website called Welcome to Glanville. Doug,

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Speaker 1: Take me to last night. What does Aaron Judge's home

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Speaker 1: run mean to you about Aaron Judge's career.

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Speaker 6: A lot on one home run, I'll tell you, But

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Speaker 6: I think I was so blown away by his ability

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Speaker 6: to do what he did on that pitch. But I've

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Speaker 6: taken polls. I'm going around the stadium here at Wrigley's

758
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Speaker 6: and asking, like, you know, Pat Murphy, I've asked Justin Turner,

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Speaker 6: I've asked Craig Counsel. I mean, it just makes no

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Speaker 6: sense what he was able to do with that ball

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Speaker 6: on so many different levels. So whether it was like

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Speaker 6: the swing that changed the century, I don't know, But

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Speaker 6: that's the moment if you don't understand the greatness of

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Speaker 6: Aaron Jude as a hitter, that's the moment that he

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Speaker 6: needs to look at to show that he not only

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Speaker 6: blew away the fans and the timing of it, but

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Speaker 6: blew away like all of major League Baseball as of

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Speaker 6: what this guy's capable of doing, because that just made

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Speaker 6: no sense whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: It's funny. I was I was talking with Matt Holliday

771
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Speaker 1: like five minutes after we're just really close friends, and

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Speaker 1: he essentially said the same thing.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: I was like, was that a miss? He's like, no,

775
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Speaker 1: he just hit one hundred mile an hour fastball off

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Speaker 1: his hands into what would have been the third deck.

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Speaker 1: He's like, that's who does that? Right, who does that?

778
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Speaker 1: We're in the We're in the middle of this argument

779
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Speaker 1: over what it means, right. I agree with you like it.

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Speaker 1: It's not the end all be all of his career.

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Speaker 1: But does it change the narrative on his postseason success

782
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Speaker 1: if and only if they build on that on that

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Speaker 1: hit last night?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, yeah, there's a narrative, and I think that's

785
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Speaker 6: the key word, right, narrative. And it's really tough to

786
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Speaker 6: match the narrative around small samples or moments when you

787
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Speaker 6: don't necessary have all the context, right, I mean, it's

788
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Speaker 6: still a small sample. I mean, you're hitting five hundred now,

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Speaker 6: so you're not going to hit five hundred during a

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Speaker 6: regular season, but it's a different season. And look, I

791
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Speaker 6: didn't have a whole lot of postseason experience, but you know,

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Speaker 6: I was one for one with a triple in the NLCS,

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Speaker 6: so I don't know what that makes me. It was

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Speaker 6: a game win he hit, so you know, yes, you

795
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Speaker 6: do feel like there's moments that you personally internally feel

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Speaker 6: like you're rising to the occasion. You feel locked in.

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Speaker 6: There's moments where you feel like you're kind of melting

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Speaker 6: and don't want to admit it. You have all that,

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Speaker 6: and someone like Aaron Judge, who's on this type of stage,

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Speaker 6: who's performed as he has year after year, who's in

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Speaker 6: this conversation of like great right handed seasons of all times.

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Speaker 6: The expectation in New York especially is nothing other than winning,

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Speaker 6: and if you're not doing that at the level you

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Speaker 6: did during the season, then the questions are going to come.

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Speaker 6: And I'm sure he and his team understand that. But

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Speaker 6: the results is what speaks, especially in places like New York,

807
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Speaker 6: and there's such an iconic franchise that has won everything

808
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Speaker 6: under the sun historically, but the last couple of twenty

809
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Speaker 6: years it's been kind of, you know, empty, and it's

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Speaker 6: been throughout his whole career. So that's where the questions

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Speaker 6: come from. But it is somewhat narrative, and when it's narrative,

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Speaker 6: you can rewrite your own story. And I think that

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Speaker 6: that's we'll see if that moment is exactly that.

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Speaker 1: What's happened to the Yankees pitching.

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Speaker 6: Well, the Blue Jays just look like they're a step ahead,

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Speaker 6: and I don't know if they you know, they're they're

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Speaker 6: picking up things. You know. Look, it's normal part of

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Speaker 6: the game that you're seeing. If people are tipping things,

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Speaker 6: you know, all those things come into play. But the

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Speaker 6: Blue Jays are a team that put the ball in

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Speaker 6: play like that's their sort of secret weapon. They put

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Speaker 6: the ball in pray play. They create pressure on your defense.

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Speaker 6: You have to execute in the field if you give

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Speaker 6: them an extra out, if you don't get the pitch

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Speaker 6: where you want it, you're going to have to defend.

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Speaker 6: And it exposes you on the defensive side. And it's

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Speaker 6: not just like, oh, a ball went through their legs,

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Speaker 6: it's execution. Are you throwing to the right face? Are

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Speaker 6: you hitting the cutoff man?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 6: That's where the Blue Jays just completely get under your

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Speaker 6: skin and exploit you. And and so you have to

833
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Speaker 6: play a Chris defensive game all the time against the

834
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Speaker 6: Blue Jays to beat them when they're swinging the bats well,

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Speaker 6: which they are.

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Speaker 1: Doug Landville joins us here on the Doug Gottlieb Show

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Red. It's a couple of dougs hanging

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Speaker 1: out and talking ball. So he's actually joining us from

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Speaker 1: Wrigley he's on the field at historic Wrigley Field as

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Speaker 1: the Cubs come in down two games none with the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of the matchup tonight at Wrigley.

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Speaker 6: Well, look at it. So Jamison ty On is pitching

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Speaker 6: for the Cubs and where he has an advantage tonight.

844
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Speaker 6: All signs are indicating the wind's going to be blowing

845
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Speaker 6: pretty strong in from center field. He is a fly

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Speaker 6: ball pitcher, and he's a pitcher who will tell you,

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Speaker 6: you know what, I'll give up the occasional home run.

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Speaker 6: I'm hoping it's solo, but that's just part of my

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Speaker 6: game when I go for the pitches at the top

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Speaker 6: of his own. Well, he doesn't really have that issue

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Speaker 6: as much tonight unless he gets that like low line

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Speaker 6: drives left center, which kind of beats the win. So

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Speaker 6: that's a big advantage. And the Brewers know he's pitched

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Speaker 6: well against them. He's got this change up kind of

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Speaker 6: that's worked really well to neutralize lefties. He's got the

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Speaker 6: curve ball going, so he's a tough pitcher. I do

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Speaker 6: see the pitching advantage in their favor. Now, you know,

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Speaker 6: we talk about Priest on the Quinn Priester on the

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Speaker 6: Brewer side, he's more of a sinker ball, ground ball

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Speaker 6: pitcher kind of that's his style. So that you know,

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Speaker 6: the Cubs definitely feel optimistic that they have the right matchup,

862
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Speaker 6: but they got to get the offense billing to really

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Speaker 6: make that come to fruition.

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Speaker 1: There's some video out there of the Brewer when they're

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Speaker 1: at second base, you know, moving their left arm, and

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Speaker 1: you know it's been a that that's baseball. As a

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Speaker 1: guy who played in the league and you're watching this,

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Speaker 1: Are the Brewers using guys on base to tip off

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Speaker 1: at least location for their hitters?

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Speaker 6: I mean they may, I mean any of these teams

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Speaker 6: may do that. And that's you know, one of the

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Speaker 6: things that how does it get addressed? Well, it's usually

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Speaker 6: something like in the game and someone challenges someone and

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Speaker 6: all you know that all these unwritten rules and codes

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Speaker 6: that come with baseball. But at the same time, you know,

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Speaker 6: the team as a team against all teams that are

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Speaker 6: always trying to find an edge, you got to find

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Speaker 6: that extra step to get ahead of it or to

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Speaker 6: stop it from being a factor. And that's part of

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Speaker 6: the game. Like all these managers we talk to all

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Speaker 6: season long, they tell you like, look, we know people

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Speaker 6: are stealing our signs. We know people are doing this.

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Speaker 6: Is you know you have to defend against this at

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Speaker 6: all times, and that's how you know you're able to

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Speaker 6: hit one hundred and one miles an hour and know

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Speaker 6: what's coming.

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Speaker 1: Stet Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, do to

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Speaker 1: ask you about the Dodgers. They're up two games done,

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Speaker 1: but the bullpen is still an issue. Can they win

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Speaker 1: the World Series despite the failings of their bullpen?

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, there's no question. I mean, the Dodgers are so loaded,

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Speaker 6: and yeah, they might be kind of like had another

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Speaker 6: gear and they found it. But the thing about the

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Speaker 6: pitching that I think is sometimes like another way to

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Speaker 6: characterize it could be they have so much talent in

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Speaker 6: their pit things that they don't even have to know

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Speaker 6: like what role anybody has. I'm gonna bring in this

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Speaker 6: guy now, Oh, so Zaki always a closer, always throws

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Speaker 6: one hundred and one too. Oh, we're gonna bring in Shean.

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Speaker 6: So it's just a matter of like settling into like

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Speaker 6: what their roles are and right now everybody's available, like

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Speaker 6: that's how they're using it. But the thing is they

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Speaker 6: have starters that can go six, six and seven, including Otani.

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Speaker 6: So that's the other X factor because you don't have

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Speaker 6: to cover like like the Brewers are. You don't have

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Speaker 6: to cover set an inning, six innings, five inning. You

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Speaker 6: can just cover three and which is you know, all

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Speaker 6: those guys that's gonna throw a hundred or except for Vessio,

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Speaker 6: who's really nastiest. So I don't see them as as

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Speaker 6: like a problem. I think it's just settling into like

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Speaker 6: what everybody's doing and getting those roles. Because yes, they've

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Speaker 6: had and I did the CS against the Reds and

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Speaker 6: the eighth inning was a disaster both nights, but they

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Speaker 6: also had big leads in both cases, so it was like, okay, fine,

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Speaker 6: we're now now instead of ten to two, it's ten

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Speaker 6: to four. You know, I don't I don't see it

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Speaker 6: as like a weakness. I see them not performing well,

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Speaker 6: but I don't think it's a weakness at all. I

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Speaker 6: think it's the zaki these guys have. They've just too

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Speaker 6: many weapons.

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Speaker 1: It's Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's

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Speaker 1: the voice of Doug Glanville. Doug, great stuff. We know

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Speaker 1: you got to run. We really appreciate you being our guests.

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Speaker 1: And again that that website is. That site's called Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Glanville. Of course you can pick up his books

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Speaker 1: as well. Doug, have a great call. Tell boo guys

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Speaker 1: that what's up and we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 6: Well there, try that