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Speaker 1: I'm Fosa m and I am Mala Munos. Lokatra Radio

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Speaker 1: is yr Brima's favorite podcast, hosted by us Mala and Viosa.

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Speaker 2: We're two ig friends turned podcast partners, breaking down pop culture, feminism,

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Speaker 1: Bartodo el Mundo, Welcome to season eight.

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Speaker 2: On today's episode of Lokata Radio, it's that time of

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Speaker 2: year again. It's Hispanicariage Month. So let's talk about it.

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Speaker 1: So each year, the US is reminded that Latinos have

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Speaker 1: a one point six trillion buying power. So they gave

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Speaker 1: us a little month to celebrate.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so go out and be a cog of capitalism

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Speaker 2: and buy things. I know we are. It's our favorite

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Speaker 2: thing to do is spend our money on chew Chittyes,

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Speaker 2: and this is the month for that. I love chow

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Speaker 2: Chitty as Oh yeah, who doesn't, but you.

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Speaker 1: Know actually and seriously, right, just a history on Hispanic

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Speaker 1: we know a lot of people don't identify as Hispanic.

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Speaker 1: They identify as Latino or LATINX. And that's a whole

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Speaker 1: other episode, the LATINX Latina Latino conversation. It seems like

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Speaker 1: but patriarchy prevails and that's where we are.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, girl, that takes some critical thinking that

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Speaker 2: It's tough, and we we love our Latino community, but

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Speaker 1: We can do it. We can do it. I believe

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Speaker 1: Her dress changed history literally, and she was not the

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Speaker 1: much like the face that launched a thousand ships, she

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Speaker 2: it's the green Versace dress. There's kind of like a

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Speaker 2: I can just tell that woman is just relentlessly in

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because to I mean, she's obviously a very

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Speaker 1: So good, so good. Give them all their flowers next.

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Speaker 1: love and the thing is, like, you know, she's a

432
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Speaker 1: good example of how we should treat, you know, folks

433
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Speaker 1: that are trying to speak Spanish, because on in that

434
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: interview she handled it so gracefully and Cristina was so

435
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: nice about it, you know what I mean, someone else

436
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: could have been like what, but no, she was like

437
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: and she laughed and the audience laughed and Cristina laughed,

438
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: and it was like people were just so like that.

439
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: It just you just couldn't be mean to her, you

440
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it was she just again

441
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: another beloved Obviously, I can't that we've talked about so

442
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: much on the show.

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00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 2: Totally. Selina was very charming. Yes, like, how can you

444
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: get mad at her for anything?

445
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Speaker 1: You can?

446
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: You can't? What next? Okay, this is an iconic throwback.

447
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: This is a deep cut that one interview where Beyonce

448
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 2: talks about seeing Selena at the mall in Texas as

449
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: a child and that being like a formative memory. Yes,

450
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Speaker 2: I love that tidbit. I love that story. I love

451
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Speaker 2: that idea of Beyonce being like a young bee and

452
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: Selena is there. She was either performing or doing a

453
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Speaker 2: meet and greet. But the idea of them crossing paths

454
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Speaker 2: in that way is like really lovely to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I feel like every artist, global artists, big

456
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Speaker 1: artist right from Texas really always does mention Selena, like

457
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Speaker 1: if they've come after her or even before her, they

458
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: always mention her and Beyonce famously obviously from Texas. And

459
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: so there's that overlap in that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Selena, I mean Texas is Selena country, right,

461
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Speaker 2: Like that's just a fact. That's next. This is another

462
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 2: deep cut. So you guys remember, oh my god, the

463
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Speaker 2: era of the Yo Kiero Taco Bell Chihuahua because he

464
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: was a superstar.

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Speaker 4: He was, it was a phenomenon, Yo Kiddle Taco Bell.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't remember ever eating a Taco Bell, but

467
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Speaker 1: I remember having all the dogs I like, because they

468
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: used to give them away like in the little meals.

469
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you could buy them separately, but

470
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Speaker 1: I somehow had a bunch of them, and there was

471
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Speaker 1: like the little chihuahua with like the little rose in

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Speaker 1: his mouth. I remember that one specifically, and I had

473
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Speaker 1: a bunch of them because I've always been obsessed with

474
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Speaker 1: dogs and stuffed animals. Also, and so the chihuahua was

475
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Speaker 1: definitely core memory for me growing up. He was his

476
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: own he deserves his own recognition during Latino Heritage months.

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Speaker 2: And there were a lot of different commercials, Like he

478
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 2: was on TV for very it was probably different dogs, right,

479
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: but the figure right was on TV for a long time.

480
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: There was all kinds of merge I remember we had

481
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Speaker 2: one that like you pressed the paw and it says

482
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Speaker 2: you'll get a Taco bell an era.

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Speaker 1: So the Taco Bell Chihuahua is actually named Gidget and

484
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Speaker 1: he lived fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: And so it was only he was the mascot for

487
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: the Taco Bell Chihuahua. So the Taco Bell Chihuahua actually

488
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Speaker 1: is named Gidget, and she became the mascot for Taco

489
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Speaker 1: Bell from ninety seven to two thousand and she was

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Speaker 1: voiced by Carlos Alaaski and lived a very long life

491
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Speaker 1: fifteen years. This little chihuahua lived fifteen years, and you

492
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Speaker 1: know had her little career for three of those years.

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Speaker 2: Gidget worked longer than a lot of actors. That's a

494
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Speaker 2: long career.

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Speaker 1: That is a long career career.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is Gidget is Latino history. I'm so glad

497
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Speaker 2: we brought when you brought this up, because really like

498
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Speaker 2: she was a celebrity. Yeah, and people would quote, you'll

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Speaker 2: get a Taco Bell. Yes, it was a thing.

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Speaker 1: That was their slogan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what Taco Bell does now. I

503
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Speaker 1: mean I kind of follow them what they do, yeah,

504
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: a little bit, because they've collabed with some people that

505
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: we know, but I like, I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they have like a mascot the way you know, they

507
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Speaker 1: just face. I wonder why they phased it out, but

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Speaker 1: I remember like being obsessed with the little chihuahua.

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Speaker 2: I wonder do you think there was Do you think

510
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Speaker 2: there was backlash from the Latino community?

511
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Speaker 1: Oh god, I mean maybe, who knows. We'll have to

512
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Speaker 1: do further research on this, y'all, but we remember.

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Speaker 2: I remember I remember that time fondly me too.

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Speaker 1: I remember exactly where I lived, and I remember exactly

515
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 1: which Taco Bell we would drive too, And I don't

516
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: remember eating there, which drives me crazy. I don't think

517
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: we actually ate there because that was not a food

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Speaker 1: that was like you know, like every family has their

519
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: like fast food approved locations, right, and Taco Bell was

520
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: not one of them. So I never remember actually eating

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Speaker 1: the food, but somehow I always had dogs, totally a

522
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Speaker 1: little toy dogs.

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Speaker 2: You found a way you were gonna get your hands

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Speaker 2: on the merge. Yes, we were more of a Dell

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Speaker 2: taco family ourselves.

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Speaker 5: Okay, not that.

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Speaker 2: I think the Hardshell tacos are very different. I will

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Speaker 2: say that. And then of course, like is it Jack

529
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: and then Jack in the Box specifically for the monster tacos? Right, yeah,

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00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: so it kind of I think it like it depends

531
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Speaker 2: for us. It depended on like what type of trash taco? Okay,

532
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: and then you go to those places.

533
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: Accordingly, we were like never allowed to eat trash tacos.

534
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: But I will share that at the like final years

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00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: of my grandfather's life, I've actually never really talked about

536
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: on this show, but he was like my father figure.

537
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Speaker 1: He lived with us, and he at the eck towards

538
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Speaker 1: the end of his life, the final like maybe five years.

539
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Speaker 1: He really loved the Jack in the Box tacos so good,

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00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: and we didn't really like them. But we had a

541
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Speaker 1: Jack in the Box near us, and so he would

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Speaker 1: walk there because he no longer drove, and so he

543
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: would walk there and he'd come back with a bag

544
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Speaker 1: full of thackles from Jack in the Box and we

545
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: would all eat them because he would go and get

546
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Speaker 1: them for us, and he loved them. So sometimes during

547
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: the ye little mottos we got, we buy the thacles

548
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: and we put them on our little out of that.

549
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: But for some reason, like my grandfather loved those tacles,

550
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: at some point they hit, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They hit. They're real good. So that's that's Taco Bell,

552
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: that's del Taco. What's next. I love the clip of

553
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: Rosie Perez dancing on Soul Train. Every once in a

554
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: while that clip goes kind of viral and becomes kind

555
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: of nemified. Yes, and Rosie is just so hot. She's

556
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: so cute, she's so fun, she has such presence. I

557
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: love Rosie. I love her acting. I love her and

558
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: white men Can't Jump. I love her in do the

559
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: Right Thing, Spike Lee. She's one of my favorites.

560
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: I feel like I've seen her involved more at least online,

561
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: and not to say she hasn't always been, but I've

562
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: seen her more online. Be very present in these like

563
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: cultural movement conversations that are happening specifically on the East Coast.

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Speaker 2: Totally. And I think Rosie Prez because of how long

565
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: she's been acting and you know she I think Rosie

566
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: definitely made space for somebody like Cardi B. Because of

567
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Speaker 2: her presence and her accent and the way she talks

568
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: and the way she carries herself. I think that she

569
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: kind of prepped the public for somebody like Cardi B

570
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Speaker 2: to come along. And I've heard different comedians talk about

571
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Speaker 2: Rosie Prez as like their first introduction to Afro Latinos

572
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Speaker 2: and Puerto Ricans, especially coming from like West Coast like

573
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: La Like White or Latino comics like I've heard them

574
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 2: talk about Rosie Prez. So I think that she did

575
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 2: that for a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: For sure. She's the blueprint in so many ways. And

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Speaker 1: speaking of Cardi B, I mean this girl, Yeah, a

578
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: woman came up like in reality TV, right love and

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Speaker 1: hip hop.

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Speaker 2: I remember following Carti she was still dancing, she was

581
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Speaker 2: still in the clubs, and she was getting a lot

582
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Speaker 2: of traction on Instagram and I remember people talking about

583
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: her and at the time her handle was Cardi Bebe

584
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: and she would just post like just hilarious clips of

585
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: herself just saying the most off the cuff wild things,

586
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: and so she really gained traction for me online because

587
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Speaker 2: of her her jokes and like her stories and just

588
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 2: her her way of talking, in her way of being.

589
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Speaker 2: And then she was cast on Love and Hip Hop

590
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Speaker 2: New York. I would watch her, and this is back

591
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: in the day when Love and Hip Hop was, you know,

592
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Speaker 2: once a week during a one hour time slot and

593
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: you have to like sit down and watch it on

594
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Speaker 2: TV because it's airing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was not that long ago, but it just

596
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Speaker 1: the way we consume TV even five years ago is

597
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: so different.

598
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And so she was on Love and Hip

599
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Speaker 2: Hop and Carti did what a lot of other people

600
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Speaker 2: have not done on Love and Hip Hop is she

601
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Speaker 2: got in and she got out. A lot of other

602
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Speaker 2: celebs have kind of stayed on Love and Hip Hop

603
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: season after season after season, and then their music has

604
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: not taken off. But Carti was on for a short

605
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Speaker 2: period of time. She got off, and then she puts

606
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: out Bodak Yellow, her single, right, it takes off it

607
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 2: like catches Fire, and it really puts her on the

608
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Speaker 2: map as a rapper, as a recording artist, and it's

609
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Speaker 2: just it's been history since then. Carti is I think

610
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Speaker 2: Carti is here to stay. I think Carti is someone

611
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Speaker 2: who has a lot of ideas, and I think she

612
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: has a lot of music in her I think she

613
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Speaker 2: has staying power, and I think that she's going to

614
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Speaker 2: continue to act as well.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I agree that she has staying power, and

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Speaker 1: that she is someone that again can be very endearing.

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Speaker 1: And I think that there's from what I've seen, two

618
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 1: extremes like you either love her or you don't really

619
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 1: like her, or you hate her totally, you know, But

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Speaker 1: I think that she can be also very endearing in

621
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Speaker 1: the way that she talks to her fans and the

622
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Speaker 1: way she shows up online, and she can also be

623
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Speaker 1: really real.

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Speaker 3: January twenty eighth, here in New York City your hometown?

625
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Speaker 4: Are you nervous?

626
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Speaker 2: I am nervous.

627
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Speaker 1: You want to know something?

628
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Speaker 2: You want to know something? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yes, I already feel like a winner.

630
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, comes because.

631
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Speaker 2: This is I never thought me you already are.

632
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Speaker 1: I love the way she talks about sex, but she

633
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: gives us her own little sex ed talks, which I love.

634
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'll never forget when she posted a video

635
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: that was like, your your pH balance is fucked up

636
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: because you're not brushing your teeth before having sex. Your

637
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: man is going to go down on you. He just

638
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: had a bacon, egg and cheese. Yes. I remember literally

639
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: showing that to my mom, and my mom was like,

640
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: she's right, She's not wrong, She's not wrong. And it's

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Speaker 1: like those are the things that for me, aside from

642
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: her music, because I do really love her music, is

643
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: like the way she talks to us and the way

644
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: she makes things really accessible for people that are not

645
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: gonna are not gonna think about those things like wait,

646
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: why is my pH balance off?

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Speaker 2: You know, and CARTI. I think her politics tend to

648
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: be on point and spawn on.

649
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: There's a reason Bernie Sanders interviewed with her.

650
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 2: Yes, she's she is politically liberal and left leaning. She

651
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: is unapologetically pro black in her own like identity and

652
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: in her politics and the way that she talks. And

653
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: she's you know, undoubtedly a feminist. I mean, she's definitely

654
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: a firm feminist, and I think that it's present in

655
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: her music. I mean when she she when Cardi and

656
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Speaker 2: Megan the Stallion put out wop.

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Speaker 1: They covered that also.

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00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so go back, go back and listen, because again,

659
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: paradigm shifting, earth shattering a bop.

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00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true. There was like Cardi b before Wop,

661
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: Megan the Stallion before Wop and then Post Yeah you

662
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: know because not only was the song like groundbreaking, game changing,

663
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: but the music video you know the way. Yes, just

664
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Speaker 1: and they recently collabed again.

665
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Speaker 2: On Bongos, their new song. They performed that at the

666
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: They performed Bongos at the VMA's are bisexual queens? Yes, yeah,

667
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: we love them. They're killing it and I love them together.

668
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: I can see Cardi and Meghan like starring in a

669
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Speaker 2: buddy comedy together.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I can see that.

671
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Speaker 2: I can see them acting, and I hope that they

672
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: continue to make music together because I just love I

673
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: love them together. I can give me pats what's next? Okay.

674
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: One of my favorite moments in Latian history is John

675
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: Leguizamo as chee Chy and two Long Food Things for Everything,

676
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: Julie Newmar. If you have never seen this movie, John

677
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 2: Leguizamo acting opposite Wesley Snipes and Patrick Swayzee and all

678
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: three of them are in drag and John just hilarious,

679
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 2: very feminine, very believable, very charismatic. Just one of my

680
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: favorite roles ever from John and he in the past,

681
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: he's done Broadway, he's done one man shows, and he

682
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: often performs in drag. He has a number of characters

683
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 2: that he embodies on stage and he's very very good

684
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: at it. So yeah, I think Withzamo also, like is

685
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: very interesting because in the past, I think he used

686
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Speaker 2: to like publicly identify as Puerto Rican. He's not.

687
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's my favorite LATINX history moment

688
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: is John Leguizamo used to identify as Puerto Rican, but

689
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: he's actually Colombian. Yeah, And so I don't know, I

690
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: speculate that like at the time, Puerto Ricans there were

691
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Speaker 1: more Puerto Ricans in the game, you know, so people

692
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Speaker 1: could identify and maybe he could because I think he's

693
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: from New York too, So it was just I don't know,

694
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: I had those are my speculations. But he's actually Colombiano,

695
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: like straight up from Colombia.

696
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Speaker 2: So yeah, John Leguizamo shout out. We're gonna cepe it going.

697
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Speaker 2: Since we're talking about Colombians, let's talk about our favorite

698
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 2: Columbian Shakira. We're gonna we're gonna start with the most salacious,

699
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Speaker 2: I think the thing that has ever happened in Shakira's career,

700
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: which is when she got charged with tax evasion by

701
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Speaker 2: the Spanish government.

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00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: Girl, I don't know if that would be considered the

703
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: most salacious anymore, because has post Pequet, she has really

704
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: like given us the breakup anthems and has really like

705
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: publicly drag this man that he can't even go to

706
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: a club without people chanting Shakira. So you know, I

707
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: agree that at one point that was the most salacious thing,

708
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 1: but then you know, Bisa rap Session came out, De

709
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 1: Grande came out with gott g and like game changer.

710
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 2: And Shakira being so smart by doing that by including

711
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: the breakup like so specifically and sort of like intentionally

712
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: in the music. And she's not like, oh no, it's

713
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: not about him. She's like, no, yeah, let's go, let's

714
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: do this, let's get him.

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00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: Yes, she like made no mistakes there. And you have

716
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: to remember, Shakira is a poet, like if you remember

717
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: piaz Eskalzos, if you've ever listened to Antolohia, like, Shakira

718
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: in her heart is a poet, and you cannot fuck

719
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: with a poet because she will have the words for you.

720
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she did, Yes, she really is a true songwriter.

721
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: She's not just a pop star. She's not just a

722
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: belly dancer, like, she really is a musician.

723
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 1: Yes, she plays multiple instruments. She's not just a vocalist.

724
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: And going back to j Loo, I mean.

725
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Speaker 2: Famously, famously Jlo j Loo.

726
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: Jlo has done Jayla has done this. This favorite history

727
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: moment also reminded me of another one that Jaylo did.

728
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: So let's start with the one that we have right now,

729
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: which is that she sang the national anthem at the

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Speaker 1: White House for Biden's inauguration.

731
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Speaker 2: The presidential inauguration.

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Speaker 1: Med lead ad libbed Let's get Loud.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

734
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Speaker 1: It was a hit or miss, depending on who you ask.

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00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just Jlo is so funny, but like unintentionally funny,

736
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: Like she doesn't try. Jayala does not try to be funny.

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00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: She looked good, by the way, at that inauguration. She

738
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: will always look good no matter what she does.

739
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, she sounded okay, I think she's saying it. She didn't.

740
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: What did they expect?

741
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: They know who she is, Yes, they've heard her music.

742
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: Yes, and we know we know what to expect. We

743
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: love her, we know what to expect. Also I will

744
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: say she I think she does speak sing better in Spanish.

745
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: Her Spanish album is I think actually good interest.

746
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: I've never heard it.

747
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think honestly because Mark Anthony, the actual vocalist,

748
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: trained her, like that was post breakup with him, that album.

749
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm.

750
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: Sorry not to go on that tangent, but I do

751
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: think Mark Anthony again another icon, the actual vocalist. Yes,

752
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: I think that he trained her.

753
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: And their marriage. Maybe we can add their marriage to

754
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: this list. Yeah, the most important Latino history. I agree,

755
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: because I mean the two of them getting together, like

756
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: what a force.

757
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: And I feel like, aside from you know, their their

758
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: marriage being you know, kind of what it was. But

759
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: I think very you know, I don't know jay Low,

760
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: but very I think intentionally that this is the husband

761
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: she had children with. Oh yes, a vocalist, a singer

762
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican. I you know, very much, like this is

763
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: the father of my children. Marriage or no marriage, like

764
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: this is the relationship that we'll always have. Oh yeah, and.

765
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah she she I think, okay, because she's

766
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: been married, she's doing she's been married a bunch of times.

767
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: Yes. If there's one thing is jay Loo knows what

768
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: she's doing. She does, and I will say, because we're

769
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: talking about her vocals, and it did remind me that

770
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: she did the Celia Cruz tribute. Yes, and that I

771
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: think is also a hit or miss depending on who

772
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: you ask. People felt a lot of people felt there

773
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been her. It should have been a black latina. Yeah,

774
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: it should have been someone with the vocal range. I

775
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: will say, she did perform the hell out of it.

776
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 2: She did.

777
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: She really, she danced because she's an answer. She danced

778
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: the hell out of that performance.

779
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I want to go back and say that

780
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I'm thinking, I'm thinking at the time. And

781
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: she also did the Motown tribute, which I thought was

782
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: really random.

783
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: People were upset about that. That was continued to get

784
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: upset and I get it. I'm like, why are we

785
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: why do we book her? And also why are you

786
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: saying yes? Girl? Like some have some self awareness and

787
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: someone on your team is too afraid to say no.

788
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like Jaylo's like a huge opportunity. We're

789
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: saying yes, yes, like she doesn't she doesn't say no.

790
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: It's also then now I feel like sparked. It gives

791
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: people then the license to create rumors online. Like I

792
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: was on Twitter the other day and I saw someone

793
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: that created like a it was just a it was

794
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 1: just a rumor. It was just a side by side

795
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: photo of Tina Turner and Jlo and was like Jayla

796
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: to perform the Tina Turner tribute. Obviously the fuck no,

797
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: right right. But because it's been so like kind of

798
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: random in some ways, like with the Motown tribute, people

799
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: now create little rumors like she's gonna do the Winny

800
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: Houston Tribute again, She's not, but it has legs because

801
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: of the history.

802
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: It's like when people say, like, oh, Scarlet Johansson, Yes,

803
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: it's going to play Harriet Tupman, you know.

804
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: Because it has legs because she did play an Asian

805
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: person in a film.

806
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: In The Ghost in the Shell. Yes, yeah, yes, exactly.

807
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: So just again history month, she really is Who's next?

808
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 6: Uh?

809
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: This person has gotten a lot of attention in recent

810
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: years because they have played chady As on and just

811
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 2: like that the Sex and the City TV show reboot,

812
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: we're talking about Sarah Ramirez, Yes, and Sarah right now.

813
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: I don't think people are loving chady As. No, but

814
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: I think chad As was intentionally written to be insufferable

815
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: and unlikable.

816
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, people I think aren't able to separate the characters,

817
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: which happens, right, And because Sada is non binary in

818
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: real life, is very politically active in real life that

819
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: people are conflating them with the Chada's character. And there

820
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: was the cut article about them. It was a profile

821
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: and it was not the kindest and I felt that

822
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: when I read it, it very much conflated who Sata is

823
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: as a person and Cheddy as a character.

824
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: Totally, totally. I wonder if the writers were almost like

825
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: playing with that, you know, like conflation, yes, because you

826
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 2: know sometimes like you have a character who is like

827
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: a villain who is hated but like you hate to

828
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: you love to hate them, right, you know, but they're

829
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: still getting talked about, They're still getting written about, they're

830
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: getting pressed, like there's chatter. There is like a viral

831
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: element there, even if people are being mean about it,

832
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: it's still viral. And I feel like, because it's been

833
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: a long time since Gray's yes, that for a lot

834
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: of people, this is their very first introduction to Sada,

835
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 2: and Sada looks very different now than when they were

836
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: acting in Grays, very fam long hair.

837
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sata Damidas played a bisexual character, one of the

838
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: first bisexual Latina characters on TV, named Callie Taurres, and

839
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: sadas character, Calli was an orthopedic surgeon. I've watched all

840
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: of GRAYCE, so like I know this, and sadas character

841
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: Calli was like probably one of the first times that

842
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: I remember seeing like a bisexual Latina on TV, like

843
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: very famously was like the b in LGBT is not

844
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: just for badass, it's for bisexual, says her character. And

845
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: I remember that being like, yes, you know what, you're right,

846
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: Callie Taurus and so yeah, I agree, Like I think

847
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: after Gray's Anatomy, Sada was then doing a lot of

848
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: Broadway because they're actually like a vocalist as well they sing,

849
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: and so they were doing some Broadway stuff and I

850
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: think now the more mainstream is obviously and just like that.

851
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm just on their Wikipedia right now. So

852
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: Sara was born in Sinaloa and actually when Sada came

853
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: to the United States ended up graduating with a degree

854
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: from the Juilliard School. And I didn't realize that Sada

855
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,919
Speaker 2: was married before to a man, and that's like one

856
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: of the storylines. Yes, for Chadeas in and just like

857
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: that formerly married is a stand up comedian, you know,

858
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: is a live performer. So I feel like they like

859
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,479
Speaker 2: wrote this role like literally with Sarah in mind, because

860
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: Chadeas has like a husband that they're separated from on

861
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: the show.

862
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that Sada is also Irish Mexican

863
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: and I think Chadeas is also Irish Mexican.

864
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: That's part of the storyline. Yes, wow, see they wrote

865
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,720
Speaker 2: they like wrote this for Sada Soda, Yes for sure.

866
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree, a crucial part of LATINX history

867
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: right now in the making.

868
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is again this is this list is

869
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: in no particular order. It's not extensive.

870
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: No, there's there's so much. I was even just thinking

871
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: right now, like do you remember when cele Cruz invented asuka?

872
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 6: Like, oh my god, yes, you know, the maker of asuka.

873
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 6: Basically Selia invented the word, the product.

874
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 1: Everything, every thing. I mean, Santa Cruz again, I probably

875
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: another person then needs their own dedicated episode, but so

876
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: many people have covered her work over the years. But

877
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: another like, of course part of LATINX history. And like

878
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: I did include this in here, but like because I

879
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: didn't want to nerd out too much on Satasa. But

880
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: like Fania All Stars, like all of those they came

881
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: up in that time, like incredible part of like not

882
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: only music history, but like Latino history in the US.

883
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the Buenavista Social Club, and Celia Cruz was

884
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: still making music like when we were young. Going back

885
00:48:53,760 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: to mtvres, they were playing music video video that video

886
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: like featuring this like beautiful beautiful woman who ends up

887
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: like taking her clothes off and walking naked through the streets.

888
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: And Celia is like very old already, but she's wearing

889
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: her wigs, she's wearing her colorful, colorful outfits, and like

890
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: it was it that song was a hit, it was,

891
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 2: and it was a much later in life, but she

892
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: she kept working.

893
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, she made music her entire life. And there's also

894
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: a Telemundo about her life.

895
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 2: And it's so bad.

896
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: It's so good.

897
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 2: It's really well done.

898
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: The actors, ugh, just incredible casting. It was very good.

899
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: And there's like a lot of episodes.

900
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: There's like a hundred episodes. I watched all of them.

901
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: There's it's very well done. Yeah, very well written. Go

902
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: check that out if you haven't.

903
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: Okay, let's see we're nearing towards the end of our list.

904
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 1: Anything Aventura Romeo Santos to me is LATINX history.

905
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

906
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: I have been obsessed with them since I was in

907
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: high school. I saw them Reform when it used to

908
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: be the Gibson Amphitheater. Oh my god, I think I

909
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: don't even know what it is now does it even

910
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: exist anymore?

911
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: I I haven't heard that name I know right well.

912
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: Okay, anyway, I'm that old. So I went to see

913
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: Aventura there, and I was obsessed with them in high school.

914
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: I saw them in twenty twenty one, and I saw

915
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: Romeo Santos' past year in twenty twenty three. So yeah,

916
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,479
Speaker 1: I've just been rocking with them for decades, like many

917
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 1: Latinas listening have also been rocking with them.

918
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 2: Yes, and special shout out to Prince Royce.

919
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, no, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I' kidding.

920
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: Prince Royce also a little more poppy like pretty Boy balladeer.

921
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:37,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

922
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: Different.

923
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: I feel like those two get like Romeo and Prince

924
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: get compared a lot, and you can they're very because

925
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: the careers are very different. But also, yes, Prince Royce

926
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: is also an incredible musician. I remember when he first

927
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 1: came out, Yeah, so cute. It was the stand by

928
00:50:55,680 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: me like Bachata, so good rendition, remember it was very good.

929
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: He's a cutie.

930
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: He's a cutie, and I'm waiting. I shouldn't say waiting,

931
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: but I'm hoping I have. He's another one of my

932
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: like where people speculate that he's queer, right and oh yeah,

933
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: him and him and Maluma. I'm just like, please, also

934
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: you know you don't, you don't have to, but also please, but.

935
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 2: It absolutely what else? Okay? Gloria Stephan in the Miami

936
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: Sound Machine, I mean put Miami on the map in

937
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 2: a lot of ways in pop culture, mainstream music and

938
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: fun fun fact on our very network. The Stephans are

939
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: podcasting on the Michael Podcast Network. Tune into in our

940
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 2: own World for more for more.

941
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think anything Gloria is Stephan. I mean

942
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: obviously is like Cuban Latin, American Latin, but you also

943
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: in the US Latino context, right, we're Stephan like blew up.

944
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: And the Estephans are just like you know, a powerhouse

945
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: as a duo and the family the name we just

946
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: know the Estephan and so yes, shout out to them.

947
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 1: Something that's a little more recent is Bad Bunny calling

948
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 1: Kendall Jenner mommy, mommy, be colorful.

949
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 5: Radies the Mosquitos.

950
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: They don't know whether to love it hate it. They're upset,

951
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: they're happy all of it. They wish it was them.

952
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm honestly a little over the Bad

953
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: Bunny Kendall Jenner chatter. I'm like just like.

954
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, you know yeah. And here's the deal.

955
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: The Kardashians, there's so many of them. They are so

956
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 2: they never get tired. And if you I feel like

957
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: it's one of those things like if you get too

958
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 2: close to the Kardashians, you're going to be pulled into

959
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 2: the orbit. Oh yeah, like the gravitational pull. Because at

960
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: the Renaissance Tour, Timothy Chella may right and Kylie John

961
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: and Kylie we're seeing canoodling. They get to everybody.

962
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: They do, they do, they do, And there has been

963
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,280
Speaker 1: there's been so much discourse about Bad Bunny and Kendall

964
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: Jenner and what bad Bunny represents and how he's dating

965
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: like the people that are the opposite of that, And

966
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: so we're not going to get into that but just

967
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: know that we're thinking of that. We we know, we know,

968
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: and like there's a lot of really great journalists writing

969
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: about it, so that are because I get it. It's important.

970
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: Like he like championed Okay, maybe we are talking about it.

971
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: We're like he like you know, positioned himself as like

972
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: of the people is obammy hint all all of this

973
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: right has kind of leaned more politically active than the

974
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: other folks in the hand it. And then you know,

975
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: now he's dating kind of someone that's the antithesis of that.

976
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: So I understand why people are upset, but also like,

977
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 1: oh my god, we give we give things a lot

978
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 1: of energy.

979
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 2: We don't need to give it that much. And I mean,

980
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 2: you know, it's very it's very Kanye in who Kanye

981
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: was and then who Kanye married, Yeah, being Kim and

982
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: who Kanye is now.

983
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 1: We'll see like the Kendall Jenner effect.

984
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 6: AVI and I want to make a prediction, is he

985
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 6: going to come crawling back to the latinas what's your prediction?

986
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 2: We'll see what My prediction is that Kim Kardashian dating

987
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: Pete Davidson is like her bridge to eventually dating like

988
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: a peso Bluma. I just want to say, because now

989
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: they're going Latino. They are, they are, They're all going

990
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: they each of them was like dating, married to having

991
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 2: children with black men, and now they're going Latin.

992
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, people have been talking in terms

993
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: of like discourse about the Kardashians specifically fetishizing black culture,

994
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: black men, like people have been talking about that for

995
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: long for a decade now, and now we're seeing like

996
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: the non black Latino novelty right in the little circle.

997
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah it's and it's of course bad bunny. The weakest

998
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: link is always the non black Latino man.

999
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say they're gonna fall first. Yeah, I

1000
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: mean I totally like because I think people were kind

1001
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 2: of surprised when not that surprised when Kim was dating Pete.

1002
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: But it's like, oh no, she's willing to date like

1003
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: a sallow skinned raccoon eyed like skinny man, you know

1004
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like she's willing to do it full

1005
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: of terrible tattoos. If I see her out with Bessel Bluma,

1006
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be shocked.

1007
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 1: So she that was like the the litmus test right

1008
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: of like what who shall date?

1009
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, So anyway, it's stay tuned. Let's keep an

1010
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: eye on.

1011
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: That, right, Mala's prediction, Let's keep.

1012
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 2: An eye on that. Another very recent happening in Latino

1013
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 2: history el Choppo's wife being released from prison all over

1014
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 2: the news. And I love how the Latinas, upon finding

1015
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 2: out who El Choppo's wife is, all of a sudden,

1016
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: wanted to dress like her, Yes, like the narco core

1017
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 2: narco wife, Butchona like she is like the patron saint

1018
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: for them, And I think it's hilarious.

1019
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Buton has deserved an honorary

1020
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: mention in Latino history because that's like a very specific

1021
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: type of look. Yeah, and I think has become very.

1022
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: Populars have really kind of exploded onto the scene in

1023
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: the past couple of years. And you know what, love

1024
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 2: it or hated. But Jenny six nine made that happen.

1025
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: I think between her and Chappo's wife, like, I think

1026
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: those are the two main figures.

1027
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that have kind of popularized it, made it mainstream. Yeah,

1028
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: I could see that for sure.

1029
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1030
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: And finally, look at our radio joining micro Dura podcast

1031
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: network at iHeart.

1032
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 2: I mean, momentous, iconic, legendary, historic, we.

1033
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: Did it we're actually hitting. This is the year mark

1034
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: of us joining. We joined formerly officially in September of

1035
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: last year we made our announcement and in October we

1036
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: launched our first season with them of twenty twenty two.

1037
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: So yes, it's been a year. We did it.

1038
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: Go us making history and thank you for listening and

1039
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,399
Speaker 2: being a part of it.

1040
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. Let us know what

1041
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: you thought of this expand extensive but not all encompassing

1042
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: list of Latino history.

1043
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, moments, of course, there's more.

1044
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: There's more, and you know, we know that this is

1045
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: more of a pop culture, fun, light hearted episode. I

1046
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: think we did dig into some things today, but for

1047
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: more like research based type of episodes, you can always

1048
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: go back to our previous seasons. We have so many.

1049
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: We have over one hundred and fifty episodes of lots

1050
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: of discourse you can listen to if you want something

1051
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: a little more hearty.

1052
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely so, until next time, this has been another episode

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