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Speaker 2: part two of our free agency reaction today, we have

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Speaker 2: that is a huge influx of experience. Hartenstein himself has

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Speaker 2: played a major role in four playoff series. In general,

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Speaker 2: as this team goes into next season, they are older,

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Speaker 2: they are wiser and more experienced. Right, That's not something

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Speaker 2: What I want to start with, and I'm going to

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Speaker 2: not gonna come up this high. And now Chet has

431
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 2: to drop a little bit further back to keep this

432
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 2: roll man behind in front of him. He can't let

433
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 2: the roll man behind him because if he does, that's

434
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 2: gonna put a lot of pressure on this lowman here right.

435
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: This guy's gonna keep working downhill. This guy's gonna keep

436
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 2: pressuring over the top. Chet's kind of working and playing

437
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 2: that middle ground. Right. But now imagine a situation where

438
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: it's Isaiah Hartenstein and Chet Holmgren is now the fore man.

439
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: In this case, if this guy is icing the ball

440
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 2: screen and trying to force him back towards the sideline,

441
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: he can come really high and aggressive because if this

442
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,400
Speaker 2: five man gets behind him into the zone, Jet can

443
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 2: stand right here and provide a good vertical deterrent to

444
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 2: any sort of pass over the top. And if this

445
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 2: guy the ball, he throws a skip pass and it

446
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 2: gets over here to the foreman. Chet has the length

447
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: and athleticism to cover that ground and recover and while

448
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: he's closing out. While that ball is in the air,

449
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: Hartenstein can recover back into the lane and so again,

450
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: by virtue of having a real height, length speed advantage

451
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: at this foreman position, you can trust him to actually

452
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 2: be two places at once. Over here, by being aggressive

453
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 2: on the ball handler, you can get the ball out

454
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 2: of this guy's hands. Right Whereas if this is Josh

455
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: Gitty and Chet has to be a little bit more

456
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 2: cognizant of the roleman. Now this guy has some space

457
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 2: to operate in this part of the floor where he

458
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 2: can get to floaters mid range games. Maybe try to

459
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 2: bait Chet up and then hit this guy. Maybe Josh

460
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 2: Gitty's out of position, or maybe he's just not tall

461
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 2: enough to bother the rollman. Again, this was an area

462
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: where they struggled last year. So by virtue of having

463
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 2: Isaiah Hartenstein to add to that look, you give yourself

464
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: an aggressive pick and roll coverage because Chet can function

465
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: as the lowman in their defense in general. In general, like,

466
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: we've seen this type of setup work in a bunch

467
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 2: of different cases, right, Like, this is what the Nuggets did.

468
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 2: They put Nikola Jokic aggressive up in a high drop

469
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: because they trusted Aaron Gordon to be able to be

470
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: two places at once in the back line. The Milwaukee

471
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: Bucks for years did that with brook Lopez bring Lopez

472
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: into a higher drop coverage. We trust Giannis to be

473
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: able to be both places at once or even when

474
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 2: brook Lopez would deeper drop against specific matchups, Giannis was

475
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: just able to help off of that week side corner

476
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: and provide another layer of rim return deterrent, excuse me,

477
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 2: while also being able to recover out to that corner.

478
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: So again, having Chet at the four just gives you

479
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: an entirely different type of athlete at the lowman position

480
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: than what you had beforehand. On the offensive end of

481
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: the four, Isaiah Hartenstein becomes now instead of Chet, basically

482
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 2: your main screening folkrum in five out, and this is

483
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 2: something that Isaiah Hartenstein excels at quickly flowing from side

484
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: to side in ball screens. This is one of the

485
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: things I talked about with Dayron Sharp from the Denver Nuggets.

486
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: The Denver Nuggets just drafted like that. Quick ball reversal

487
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: is so important from the big man in five out

488
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: in terms of getting the ball from side to side.

489
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Speaker 2: The thread of the back door cut there's a lot

490
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: of like dribbling into dribble handoffs, right, Like Isaiah Hartenstein

491
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: will dribble at the guy who's coming at him, or

492
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 2: at the two guys who are running action that are

493
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: about to flow into him from there. He's supposed to

494
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: if there's a slip cut out of it, to hit that.

495
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 2: If the guy goes to set a screen and then

496
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: his man stays on the high side, he gets slip through.

497
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 2: Hartenstein's job is to hit that cut. If the guy

498
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: who's the primary, the guy who's supposed to be coming

499
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: off the dribble handoff, if he's being top locked, like

500
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 2: if his defender is just literally denying him the use

501
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 2: of the dribble handoff and he has to ba cut,

502
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: Isaiah Hartenstein has to make that read. If he dribbles

503
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 2: that way and nobody's open, it's his job to quickly

504
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: interpret that and reverse like like kind of do a

505
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: little half spin move switch ball handling hands, go the

506
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: other way and kind of signal to the two guys

507
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: on the opposite of the floor, Hey, I'm coming your

508
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: way now. There's a lot of decision making and playmaking

509
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 2: responsibility on the five man in ball screens or in

510
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 2: the in five out offense, and that is legitimately something

511
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: that Isaiah Hartenstein excels at. As a matter of fact, he

512
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: averaged four point three assists per thirty six minutes in

513
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 2: this last playoff runt, operating as that type of fulcrum

514
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 2: for the Knicks. And that was the next team that

515
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: didn't have a ton of ball and player movement by

516
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: virtue of the injuries that took place to them and

517
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 2: them leaning so much on Jaln Brunson. So let's go

518
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: back over to the play software and we're gonna I

519
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: want to demonstrate this concept for you guys. So we're

520
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: gonna set up in like a typical five out type

521
00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 2: of setup. We'll get all of our defenders matched up here. Now, well,

522
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: most of this stuff will run and flow out of

523
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: like a transition push. So, like, imagine the three man

524
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 2: dribbled the ball up the floor in transition and the

525
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: five man's trailing. He's going to kick the ball back

526
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: to the five man. Now Hartenstein has the ball. Okay,

527
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: Hartenstein has the ball. Let's imagine this is Shake Gildas Alexander,

528
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: and let's imagine this is Jay dub Right. So let's

529
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 2: Just imagine like a basic five out motion concept like Chicago,

530
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 2: and all Chicago is is Hartenstein has the ball, Shay

531
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: is going to run down and set a pin down

532
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: just a screen for j Dub and Ja Dubb is

533
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: going to come off of that screen into a dribble

534
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: handoff with Isaiah Hartenstein. That is a basic Chicago action

535
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 2: that you will see a lot of times in like

536
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: semi transition after a quick push in five out offense.

537
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: This is five out kind of flow, right, So where

538
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: are the decisions that Hartenstein has to make As Hartenstein

539
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: has the ball and is dribbling this way as Shay

540
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: is setting the sc these guys are probably gonna try

541
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 2: to switch this screen. So let's say this guy stays

542
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,719
Speaker 2: on the high side. But let's say this the guy

543
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: who's guarding j Dubb just lingers on Jadub as he's

544
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: coming off. Let's say he just lingers on Jadub for

545
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 2: a split second before this switch occurs and Shay slips it.

546
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: As Shay slips that screen, it's Isaiah Hartenstein's responsibility to

547
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: hit that bounce pass. He's got to be the guy

548
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 2: that makes that read. Right, Let's say that as Shae

549
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 2: Let's say that as Shay's going running down, this guy's

550
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 2: top locking him, and so Jdubb backcuts through, and as

551
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 2: he back cuts through, this guy clears, and then let's

552
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: say Shay then decides, okay, now I need to run

553
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: the dribble handoff. So now Shae comes up after JDub

554
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: cuts through to come off on the dribble handoff. Let's

555
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: say that his defender is top locking him. If he's

556
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: top locking him and refusing the use of it, he's

557
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 2: got a backcut. Isaiah Hartenstein is the guy that has

558
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: to make that read. He's the guy that has to

559
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: hit that bounce pass on time and on target. Let's say,

560
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 2: as I mentioned earlier, if the entire play falls apart,

561
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: so for whatever reason, these guys just do a really

562
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: good job switching and they As Shae goes to set

563
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: the screen, this guy stays on the inside position to

564
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 2: take away the cut. He quickly switches on to Shay.

565
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,719
Speaker 2: As this guy tries to come off, he top locks him.

566
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: The entire play is butchered. Isaiah Hartenstein is the guy

567
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: has to go, oh shit, this is falling apart. Let

568
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: me dribble this way. He'll point at whoever the three

569
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: man is let's say it's Alex Crusoe or or Lou Dort,

570
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: and he's gonna be like, go set a pin down

571
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: for Chet. Then Chet, He's gonna pin down for Chet,

572
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: and then Chet's gonna come up. That's a decision that

573
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: Isaiah Hartenstein has to be able to make. And then

574
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: the last one that will hit is just the big

575
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: man ignoring him. So in the event that this guy,

576
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: the defender guarding Isaiah is just sagging way back in

577
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: the paint and we have our matchups pretty normal over here,

578
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: and this guy's coming down to set this pin down,

579
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: Isaiah Hartenstein might need to just attack this man. And

580
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: that was something you saw a bunch in the playoffs.

581
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: If you guys remember he did it to Joel Embiid too,

582
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: or like Embiid would just be playing center field and

583
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: just ignore Hartenstein and sag back into this painted area

584
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: and Hartenstein would just drive at him hard with his

585
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: left hand and get all the way to the rim.

586
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: Those are all the types of reads that your big

587
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: man needs to make in a five out offense. And

588
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: there's a whole other layer to it. When he's already

589
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: set the screen and now he's rolling into space. We've

590
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 2: talked about like him needing to score in the short role.

591
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: Like literally made sixty percent of his floaters in the

592
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: regular season last year, made sixty six percent of his

593
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 2: floaters in the playoffs last year, so like he can

594
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: score on the role as well. Like Isaiah Hartenstein, I

595
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: think in a lot of ways, represents kind of the

596
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: quint essential modern five out offensive big. He can set

597
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: good screen, he can make all of the reads, he

598
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: can make the back door passes, He quickly flows from

599
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: side to side. He can score when he's on the roll.

600
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: He can score when the center is ignoring him. He's

601
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: not going to put up massive box score numbers, but

602
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: he's just a really functional cog in that type of

603
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: five out system. And again, like I don't even worry

604
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 2: about him on the offensive end of the floor with

605
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 2: this unit. The only guy that I get concerned about

606
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: in terms of how the offense will function when Hartenstein's

607
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: on the floor is Chet Homegerd. And this is something

608
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, but I want to get a little

609
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: bit deeper into it now. Going from being guarded by

610
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: centers who are slower footed, usually dropping in traditional coverages

611
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: on ball screens which allows him to pop free and

612
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: clear to the top of the key. When Chet space

613
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: is above to break his man, the center typically SAgs

614
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: way back into the lane. Going from that to that

615
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: guy guarding Hartenstein, and now Chet's being guarded by a

616
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: forward who is going to apply more ball pressure, who's

617
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: probably going to be quicker footed, at least as quick

618
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: footed as Chet. To a guy who's probably going to

619
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: switch most actions as opposed to dropping in most actions.

620
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: Going from that is going to put a lot more

621
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 2: difficulty or just challenge on Chet in his perimeter skills.

622
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: And so we're going to go over to the placeoff

623
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: where one more time, and I just want to kind

624
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: of demonstrate this concept. So again, if this is Chet,

625
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: we'll set up We'll just set up in like a

626
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: five out kind of ball screen kind of situation here

627
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: if this is Chet and Chet's guarding the ball screen,

628
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: and this team's going to ice the sideball screen. By

629
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: the way, the guys the reason why I keep talking

630
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: about icing, every single team in the NBA wants to

631
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: ice side ball screens. That's what they try to do.

632
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: Which all that is is this man instead of chasing

633
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: over the top and then funneling into the middle of

634
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 2: the floor, this man is actually going to stay way

635
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: on the high side of the screen and try to

636
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: force him back towards the sideline. There are times where

637
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: ball handlers in the NBA do get to the middle

638
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: of the floor, and I want to pretend like that

639
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: never happens. They'll just a lot of times like they'll

640
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: dribble down and then this guy will chase, and then

641
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 2: they'll use a retreat dribble which will get them back

642
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: onto that high side so they can get over. They

643
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: will get over, and when they do get over the

644
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: top of the screen, the same exact kind of coverage

645
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: principles apply. The only difference you'll see is sometimes if

646
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: the ball handler gets way over here, they may ask

647
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: this guy to be the low man. Once the ball

648
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: crosses that midline, this guy becomes the low man, as

649
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: opposed to on an ice when they funnel this way,

650
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: this guy is your low man. Right. So there are

651
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: some differences in the floor contruct but most teams are

652
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 2: going to try to ice that ball screen and funnel

653
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: him back towards the sideline. Right, So as he funnels

654
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: him towards the sideline, this guy's in his drop coverage,

655
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: he funnels towards the sideline he's chasing. Chet is gonna

656
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: pop right here and he's gonna be wide open, and

657
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: he's gonna have a slow footed center closing out at

658
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 2: him that he can cook off the dribble and make

659
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: stuff happen. That's gonna be Hartenstein. Now, now this this

660
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: is going to be Chet guarded by a Ford. So

661
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: now what's gonna end up happening is a lot of

662
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: times Chet's gonna have this guy on him ball pressuring

663
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: whenever he has the ball. When Chet goes to set

664
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 2: a screen. If Chet, like let's say Isaiah Hartenstein goes

665
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: down to the dunker spot and Jalen Williams calls for

666
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: a screen and Chet goes to set it, this is

667
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: probably just going to be a switch. They'll just switch

668
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: the ball screen and now Jadub will be going against

669
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 2: the Ford and Chet will be going against the two guard.

670
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: That's not going to be a drop or an ice

671
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: the way that you see in most of these ball

672
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: screen coverages when he's at the five. That so that

673
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: inherently is going to prevent some of those openings that

674
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: Chet gets in terms of clean catches on the perimeter.

675
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 2: The second piece of it is having to run action.

676
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: As we talked about earlier. Let's imagine Isaiah Hartenstein is

677
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: our ball handling Fulkrum right up here right, so he's

678
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: our fulk Crum, and we have Hartenstein getting ready to

679
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: run Chicago action. So Jadub run down. He sets a

680
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: pin screen or a pin down screen for Shae. Shae

681
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: comes off the dribble handoff. These two guys switch. Isaiah

682
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: Hartenstein goes to flow into it. These guys, let's say

683
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: they deny it, or let's just for the sake of

684
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: making it work, look kind of a different look than

685
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: we've already shown. Let's say Shae gets over the screen,

686
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: so Isai Hartenstein's that's a pick. Shae gets over the screen.

687
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: He comes down into this zone. Let's say this guy

688
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: offers Nail help. So there's just a lot of traffic

689
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: in here around Shae. Shae would make the kickout pass

690
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 2: over here to lou Dort, at which point lou Dort

691
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: would flow down into a dribble handoff where Chet would

692
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: come off. This guy would switch. Now lou Dohrt's defender

693
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: is guarding Chet on the ball, and as as shay

694
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: Kind of cycles through and Jalen cycles up, Hartenstein's going

695
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: to turn and go set the screen. So now Chet

696
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: is running action as the primary ball handler in five out.

697
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: Because of Isaiah Hartenstein being the five man, that is

698
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: going to put Chet in positions where he's going against

699
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: a quicker perimeter defender who's pressuring the ball and testing

700
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: the ability of his handle as he gets into the lane,

701
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: testing his ability to play, playmake as they come off

702
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: of those situations. So that, like I said, in terms

703
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 2: of the offensive end of the four going with two bigs,

704
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: I don't worry about Hartenstein at all. My only real

705
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: concern is will Chet be able to function offensively in

706
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: more of a perimeter role where the ball is in

707
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: his hands more to be clear, like in the long run,

708
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in Chet in what he can

709
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: do with the basketball in his hands, but I just

710
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: don't think he's quite ready for that yet. So I'm

711
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: really curious to see how he fares in that role

712
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 2: next year. And I do expect some lumps in the

713
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: regular season, especially when they go to those big looks,

714
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: but as long as they can figure that out over

715
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: the course of the eighty two and Chet makes enough

716
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: progress before they get to the postseason, that'll be a

717
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 2: viable look for them, and they will always have the

718
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: option of going back to their small ball look, which

719
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: is going to be better this year because you have

720
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: Alex Cruso instead of Josh Gitty. Under any circumstances, it's

721
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: a better look, and I expect them to be better

722
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 2: defensively immediately with Hartenstein on the floor alongside Shed, I

723
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 2: expect those big looks to be stifling on the defensive

724
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: end of the floor. So overall, love to fit, love

725
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: that it gives them more matchup versatility in the long

726
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: run by having a big look. I still think in

727
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: the law, I still think i'd prefer if they had

728
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: a forward look as well, where Chet has a big

729
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 2: forward next to him, just because I think that that

730
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: would give them a little bit more versatility, because I

731
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: think they've got like a really good small ball look

732
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: and a really good big look, but they don't have

733
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: anything that's kind of in between that's traditional. That is

734
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 2: something I'd like to see them address in the long run.

735
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: But Hartenstein gives you the ability to have at least

736
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: some of those benefits in the short term, and you

737
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: have the flexibility two years from now by virtue of

738
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: the way that deal is structured, so you can be

739
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: picky and you can be patient in the process of

740
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: trying to hunt down whoever that Foreman was lastly kind

741
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: of talking about the thunder and the big picture. I

742
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: think the addition of Crusoe and Hartenstein makes Oklahoma City

743
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: a top tier championship contender. I probably still have them

744
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: behind Boston and Denver by some small amount, at least

745
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: until we see these guys play. And there are some

746
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: other teams potentially Philly potentially, some other teams that make

747
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: a trade this summer. There are some other teams that

748
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: could be entering into that tier Minnesota and Dallas two

749
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: potentially as we kind of look into it. But I

750
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: definitely view Oklahoma City in that tier right now. They

751
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 2: just added two quality starting caliber players. They only had

752
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,479
Speaker 2: four of those last year. Now they have six of them,

753
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: just like Boston does. So we'll actually rank our contenders

754
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: later in the summer. We usually do that, like middle September,

755
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: as we kind of get ready for training camp, we'll

756
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: rank our contenders. But I want to wait until all

757
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: of the signings and trades come through before we do

758
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: that just because there's just going to be a lot

759
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: of new information over the course of the next couple

760
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: of months. But I do at this point have Oklahoma

761
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: City in that top tier of contenders by virtue of

762
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 2: these two moves. I really wanted Hartenstein to the Thunder.

763
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,479
Speaker 2: We got it. It's going to be a lot of fun,

764
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: all right. CP three to the Spurs. I love this

765
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: move because it accomplishes two things. It gives Victor weben

766
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: Yama a high level ball handler to make things easier

767
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 2: for him on offense. To give you an idea, Victor

768
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: only got two point five rollman possessions per game last year.

769
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: That's the same amount as Rudy Gobert, stonehands, Rudy Gobert

770
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 2: and with who doesn't play with passers right, And that's

771
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 2: half as many as the star bigs at the top

772
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 2: of the league, guys like Anthony Davis, guys like Joel Embiid,

773
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: because those guys play with high level ball handlers who

774
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: consistently set them up with those opportunities. Here's a crazy

775
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 2: stat for you, guys. Victor only logged two point two

776
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: cut possessions per game. Those are easy feeds around the

777
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: rim for quick finishes right, Trace Jackson Davis are the

778
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: Warriors who played less than seventeen minutes per game logged

779
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: more cut possessions per game than Victor Webbin Yama in

780
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: about half as many minutes. Guess who was the primary

781
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: guard for most of those Tray Jackson Davis minutes. Chris Paul. So, like,

782
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: is Chris Paul gonna make the Spurs into a championship contender?

783
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 2: Obviously not, But he's just gonna allow them to function

784
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: more like a normal basketball team on offense. He's going

785
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: to generate those higher quality opportunities for Victor Webbin Yama

786
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: that most of his peers at the position get. And again, like,

787
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: the big thing is, in the long run, they are

788
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 2: eventually going to have a star ball handler next to

789
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: Victor and we don't know who it's gonna be, and

790
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that in a minute, but he's eventually

791
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: going to play alongside this type of guy. Why not

792
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: let him get some reps learning how to do that

793
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: in the short term. While the second thing this accomplishes

794
00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: maintaining flexibility. Because it's a one year deal, a lot of

795
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: the ball handlers that were available to the Spurs this

796
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: summer didn't make a lot of sense. De Jontay Murray

797
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 2: isn't good enough to be your primary ball handler. Trey

798
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: Young is good enough, but he comes with a lot

799
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: of other issues as we know, attitude issues, defense issues.

800
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell just re upped in Cleveland, so he's not

801
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: an option. Darius Garland's kind of an interesting option in

802
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 2: terms of the fit, but I don't think he's good

803
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: enough to be the best ballhandler on a championship team.

804
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 2: Paul George was too old. Brandon Ingram isn't good enough either.

805
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 2: This is the summer for fringe stars to be hunted

806
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: by contenders, not for young teams to look for foundational pieces.

807
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: And so this, for instance, we just talked about the Thunder.

808
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 2: This is why the Thunder went for Hartenstein instead of

809
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 2: making some sort of other deal. They're probably looking at it, like,

810
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: you know, we don't view Lori markin In as a

811
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: guy on a max contract that is worth it in

812
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: the context of Jalen Williams and Shay we would rather

813
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: wait for a different type of player, right, So Hartenstein,

814
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 2: they have the cat flexibility to do it. That was

815
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: them kind of making the same type of decision that

816
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: the Spurs are talking about this. There weren't a lot

817
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: of foundation type of talent available this summer to try

818
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: to go after CP three. Gives the Spurs another year

819
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 2: to wait things out, and maybe Devin Vessel takes another

820
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: step forward. He had his best scoring volume in efficiency

821
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: year last year. Maybe he takes a step forward. It

822
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: looks like he could be that guy in the long

823
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: run Stefan Castle, who the Spurs drafted at the top

824
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: of the first round, Like, maybe he learns how to

825
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: shoot this year, and maybe that kind of turns into

826
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: a guy that the Spurs project as a ball handler,

827
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: or maybe a different a guy becomes available in the

828
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: trade market and the Spurs can jump in there and

829
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: try to make a move. And like, the one thing

830
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 2: is Victor is so talented already that he applies more

831
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: timeline pressure in the sense that like, you don't want

832
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: to wait five years to be good, because Victor could

833
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 2: be a top ten player literally next year, and there's

834
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: a certain pressure that comes with that. Right. But I

835
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: thought this was a savvy move by the Spurs. It

836
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 2: just again is going to give them that flexibility to

837
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 2: wait out a better ball handling option while giving them

838
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: a giving Victor at least a facsimile of that to

839
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: practice with for the season. And most importantly, it's gonna

840
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: make the Spurs more fun to watch. These Spurs were

841
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: like watching college basketball last year. Just the ball handling

842
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: capability was so low it made them really difficult to watch.

843
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: Victor women Yamo was the only saving grace of them

844
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: as a television product. Getting a CP three out there

845
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: and having them look more organized on offense will help

846
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 2: a lot. Last hit for today, Desonte Murray to the

847
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: New Orleans Pelicans. This move was all about rim pressure.

848
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: In my opinion, guy like CJ McCollum, you averaged nine

849
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: point nine drives per game last year for the Pelicans.

850
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,919
Speaker 2: Dejonte by himself averaged fifteen point one. Deshonte attempts over

851
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 2: eight shots per game in the paint, and so this

852
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 2: kind of like we talked about earlier, is going to

853
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 2: go back to what we talked about after the playoffs

854
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: and that five biggest things. One of the things that

855
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 2: I took as one of my five biggest takeaways from

856
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: that playoff run was rim pressure is the most valuable

857
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: thing for shot quality, right, and there's a bunch of

858
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: different ways to get rim pressure. You can do it

859
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: in the post. You can do it, cutting, you can

860
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: do it crashing the offense of glass. You can do

861
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 2: it rolling in ball screens. There's a bunch of different ways,

862
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: but the most resilient way in the playoffs to do

863
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 2: it is dribble drive penetration. Right, the ability to beat

864
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: people off the dribble is the easiest way to generate

865
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: that type of rim pressure. And so in these situations,

866
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: like if you look at the Pelican, Zion Williamson was

867
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: really the only guy for them last year generated sustainable

868
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: rim pressure. Yonis did a bunch on the glass in

869
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: the post, but he was so matchup specific and like

870
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: incapable of being played against certain types of teams that

871
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: it didn't really add up to much in real tangible

872
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: value for the Pelicans. Right, Like Zion was the only

873
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: kind of dependable rim pressure they had. You guys watched

874
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: in that Lakers playing game just how damaging Zion can be,

875
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: just because it can beat people off the dribble. And

876
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: like even CJ and Brandon Ingram, they're like pull up

877
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: shooters who are like in ISO situations, mainly going to

878
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: step back or turn around jump shots. They both need

879
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: screens to get all the way to the rim, as

880
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: Jonte is a guy who can legit just beat the

881
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 2: man in front of him off the dribble, and that

882
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: is where he's going to bring the most value of

883
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: value for this team on the offensive end of the flour.

884
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: I like this move because when I think of like

885
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: the idealized version of the Pelicans in the long run,

886
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: I view them as a driving kick team. I look

887
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: at them as a team that should use de Jontay

888
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: Murray and Zion Williamson to break down the defense at

889
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: the start to get the defense in rotation, and then

890
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: these guys Trey Murphy is like a professional closeout attacker.

891
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 2: Herb Jones made a lot of progress this last year

892
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 2: as a closeout attacker. Like I even prefer CJ. McCollum

893
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: and Brandon Ingram operating with an advantage because of their

894
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: high level of skill and so like to me, this

895
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: is a move in the direction of the Pelicans being

896
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 2: more of a driving kick team, which I think is

897
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 2: going to be good for them in the long run.

898
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: And then they can layer their pull up shooting on

899
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: top of that. As we know CJ and Brandon Ingram

900
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: are pull up shooters, but there's not as much resilience

901
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 2: there you saw in the Thunder series. It's like those

902
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: pull up jumpers start to miss suddenly they both become

903
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: relatively ineffective basketball player, right, And so like there's more

904
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 2: resilience to drive and kick basketball than pull up three

905
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: point shooting. It's like the difference between the Suns and

906
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: the Boston Celtics, right, Like Boston was more diligent about driving,

907
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: Phoenix wanted to settle for a ton of pull up

908
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: jumpers and ended up being the death of them. Right.

909
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: So like, this to me is a good move in

910
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: that direction. But Dejonte also brings high level pull up

911
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: shooting as well. He shot forty five percent on pull

912
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: up jumpers last year fifty one percent when you weigh

913
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: it for threes one point zero two points per shot.

914
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 2: He was one of only nine players in the league

915
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: to attempt at least five hundred pull up jump shots

916
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 2: and to maintain an efficiency over one point per shot.

917
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 2: He's in a rare group of efficient pull up jump

918
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 2: shooters in the NBA. He also had the best catch

919
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 2: and shoot season of his career. He got one point

920
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: one seven points per catch and shoot jumper. He shot

921
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: forty six percent from the field, like just straight field

922
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: goal percentage on unguarded catch and shoot jump shots. So

923
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: if that's a trend and not a blip, then we're

924
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 2: talking about some real upside to this trade. And Dejonte's

925
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: got like real scoring pop. He was one of the

926
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: best ISO players in the league last year. He got

927
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: one point one points per possession out of ISOs including passes,

928
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: according to Synergy. That ranked sixth out of nineteen players

929
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: to run at least three hundred ISOs. Last year, he

930
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: had thirteen to thirty point games, He had four forty

931
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: point games, he had multiple game winners. He had at

932
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: least eight assists in twenty five games. Like, he's just

933
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: a damn good basketball player. And like again, part of

934
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: it is just Atlanta and their situation, and it's just

935
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: the lack of success, lack of team success that came

936
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: out of that situation. I think put Dejonte in a

937
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: position where he's discounted. But he's a player I was

938
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: a huge believer in. I really wanted him for the Lakers,

939
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 2: and so I'm really excited for Pelicans fans because I

940
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: think they got a good one here. He's also a

941
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: bit of an asshole, and I mean that in the

942
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: best way, Like you need to have that asshole streak

943
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: to be like an effective basketball player and knockdown, drag

944
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: out fights, and he's just that type of guy, and

945
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: I think Pelicans fans are really gonna like him. I

946
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: have two main concerns and they're the same concerns I

947
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: talked about when Dejonte was first being rumored for the

948
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: Lakers last year around the deadline. Just hasn't been very

949
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 2: good defensively since leaving San Antonio, but the capability is

950
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: obviously there. It's not like he lost his talent on

951
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: that end of the floor. It's just about commitment. Hasn't

952
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: done it since leaving San Antonio, where he was an

953
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: all defense guy. So he just needs to get that

954
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: piece back, and hopefully by virtue of just being on

955
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: a team that has this much talent and the Pelicans

956
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: have a ton of talent now, just by virtue of

957
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: being on that sort of team, I think that he'll

958
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: have more energy resources to devote to that end of

959
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 2: the floor. But that'll be a big piece. And then

960
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: the second piece of it is he struggles to make layups,

961
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: shot just fifty two point nine percent on layups last

962
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: year according to Synergy. That ranked thirty seventh out of

963
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: forty four players who attempted at least three hundred layups

964
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: last year. There's pros and cons to that, right, Missed

965
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: layups usually mean occupied rim protectors, right, So like, there

966
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: are opportunities for offensive rebounds that come from that. But

967
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: the Pelicans are not a good offensive rebounding team. They

968
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: were nineteenth in offensive rebound percentage last year and they

969
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: just lost two of their top three offensive rebus in

970
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: Larry Nance Junior and Yonis Valanciuna, So that isn't really

971
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: a value add for the Pelicans. The downside is missed layups,

972
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: specifically from guards, especially when they're driving from above the break.

973
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: That leads to bad floor balance, which can lead to

974
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,240
Speaker 2: transition opportunities that just to put it simply, just imagine

975
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 2: two guards above the break. If one drives in and misses,

976
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: there's only one guard back, and that can lead to

977
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: some transition opportunities. With Russell Westbrook when he used to

978
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: miss layups, it was an overwhelmingly bad experience for the Lakers,

979
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: So like, really for and to be clear on tape,

980
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: it's mostly about decision making. Dejonte will just over penetrate,

981
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: sometimes drive into rim protectors and try impossible layups that

982
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: end up hurting his percentage. So really it's going to

983
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 2: be about just better rim decisions, better decisions about when

984
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 2: to drive, not over penetrating when the help is already there,

985
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: making sure you have a plan when you get on

986
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: the dribble into the lane, making better reads when you

987
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: get there in terms of kick out passes and drop

988
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: off passes. As long as he does those sorts of things,

989
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: he should be able to clean that up. But again,

990
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: those are the two things. Is he's got to recommit

991
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 2: on the defensive end, and he's got to be able

992
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: to make layups or at least better decisions when he

993
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: gets to the rim. I had a third there. Last

994
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: year's catching shoot season was a little bit of an

995
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: outlier for him. That needs to be a trend and

996
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: not a blip for him to continue to function as

997
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: part of the driving kick that the Pelicans are going

998
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: to try to build out overall. I like the deal

999
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 2: though Dyson Daniels is a really interesting young player, but

1000
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 2: Dejonte is just a better player within the context of

1001
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 2: trying to win right now, which I think the Pells

1002
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: are trying to do. And I'm just generally really high

1003
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: on Dejante. As I mentioned earlier, I wanted him for

1004
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 2: the Pelicans, so I'm happy for Pelicans fans that they

1005
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: get to root for him this season. All right, guys,

1006
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: that is all I have for today. We're going to

1007
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: be back tomorrow with a mail bag, probably have a

1008
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: couple of mail bag breakouts over the course of the

1009
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: time that we're off. I hope all of you guys

1010
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: enjoy your holiday weekend and I will see you on Monday. Oh,

1011
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 2: I'll see you on the mail bag, and then I

1012
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: will see you after that. On Monday.

1013
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Speaker 1: The volume