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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and it is a chilly and breezy Wednesday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a little blustery, a little bluster. I'd expect to

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Speaker 1: see Winny the Pooh running around out there, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: or Piglet rolling by.

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Speaker 2: Is there's no place like home. There's no place like home. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's feeling it's going to translate into Buffalo in the

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Speaker 2: next couple of days here too.

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Speaker 1: This kind of what the weather is going to be

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Speaker 1: like in Buffalo in terms of the wind, the wind,

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of where I wanted to go here

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Speaker 1: to kick off today's show, Matt. Looking at this game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, they're expecting winds of around twenty five miles

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Speaker 1: an hour, pretty steady, and then gusts of up to

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Speaker 1: fifty two miles an hour, which is extreme, which is

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Speaker 1: extremely Yeah, extreme extreme, But a twenty five mile an

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Speaker 1: hour wind makes it very difficult to throw.

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Speaker 2: The football, very difficult through the football. So I'm sure

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Speaker 2: we'll reference it throughout the day. But there's Warren Sharp

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Speaker 2: put out a really good article today about it is

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Speaker 2: more of a betting standpoint, but he digs into it

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Speaker 2: pretty strong, and things like Buffalo's Stadium is well known

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Speaker 2: to not cut the wind particularly well.

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Speaker 1: It's low.

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Speaker 2: It's I think you've been there, Yeah yeah, I mean so.

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Speaker 1: For people who haven't been to that stadium, when you

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Speaker 1: come in at street level and you enter the stadium,

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Speaker 1: you're already kind of at the top of the stadium.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't stick up out of the ground a lot.

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Speaker 2: They dug a hole.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you're actually come in about midway up the stadium.

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Speaker 1: Like you come in. The press box is literally like

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Speaker 1: one set of steps. You go up and then you're

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Speaker 1: in the press box, which is typically up higher in

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Speaker 1: most stadiums.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure, usually you're in an elevator.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right right, You don't do that there. It's

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Speaker 2: So the wind hits that stadium harder than most. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: that city is a rough weather city by NFL standards,

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Speaker 2: and it sounds like we're gonna get it heavy. So

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Speaker 2: the gusts are really interesting to me in that you

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Speaker 2: don't know when they're common, right, They don't tell you

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Speaker 2: about them.

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Speaker 1: There's no warning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, gus coming here comes a signal. Don't kick the

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Speaker 2: ball now, don't throw the ball now, so you wonder

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Speaker 2: it just there's gonna be a handful of plays that

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Speaker 2: are gonna look goofy, I mean to say the least.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So it made me go back to everybody who

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Speaker 1: remembers the game in twenty twenty one where the Patriots

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Speaker 1: went up there and beat the Bills. Yeah, in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: fourteen to ten.

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Speaker 2: That was Mac Jones' rookie year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mac Jones is a rookie. The wins in that

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Speaker 1: game at kickoff were nineteen miles.

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Speaker 2: Per hour, so they're probably gonna be harsher.

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Speaker 1: They gusted up to around third. They were around thirty

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Speaker 2: Which is extreme, which is extreme like this.

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Speaker 1: Not like this. And the Patriots went in there and

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Speaker 1: threw the ball three times, three times and one fourteen

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Speaker 2: Times and only it mustard up ten points and got.

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Speaker 1: Ten points out of it. And if you look, so

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Speaker 1: a sixty four yard Damien Harris run.

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Speaker 2: There was a long play. Yeah, I was thinking it

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Speaker 1: The Bills then scored a touchdown on a pass that

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Gabe Davis, who didn't practice today, by

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Speaker 1: Folk field goal from the Patriots to take an eleven

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Speaker 2: A ball went through the upright.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Patriots also went for two after they scored.

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Speaker 2: Which makes some sense to I mean, would you take

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Speaker 1: Well, an extra point is what forty two yards?

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Speaker 2: I should know that it's not as it's.

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Speaker 1: Either forty two or forty four yards. They kick from

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Speaker 1: So the longest field goal attempt in the game was

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of scoring there and touchdowns. There

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Speaker 1: were two, yeah, right, right, there were two. Yeah, there

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Speaker 2: And then from when I remember that Harris run was

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Speaker 1: So if you look at that game, New England had

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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty one total yards of offense in

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Speaker 1: The great equalizer is the wind Alan He he was

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Speaker 1: Damien Harris ten for one hundred and eleven, Ramandre Stevenson

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Speaker 1: one big run twenty four for seventy eight. Stevenson was the.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of the nause Yeah, I mean it's yeah.

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Speaker 1: So is that the you know, is that kind of

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Speaker 1: what you what you want? You're not unhappy with that?

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Speaker 2: A couple of things I want to throw out there.

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Speaker 2: Then with that in mind, in that perspective, if I

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Speaker 2: told you today January tenth, Wednesday, that the Steelers would

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Speaker 2: end up with two hundred and fifty yards of offense,

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Speaker 2: which is more than either one of those teams had

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Speaker 2: in that game. And we expect the weather to be harsher.

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Speaker 2: Do you take it?

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Speaker 1: I think so.

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Speaker 2: I mean, two fifty is not much to ask for

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Speaker 2: should know this too, But how many yards of offense

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Speaker 2: more than that. It was more than that, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: but I think this is going to be harsher. I

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Speaker 2: think you do. I mean, would the Bills say the

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Speaker 1: Probably not.

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Speaker 2: two hundred fifty yards of offense. I mean, it's not

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Speaker 2: I mean, is third and five a running down kind

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Speaker 2: of you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look at that back at that game

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Speaker 2: It certainly was for the Patriots and threw all three times.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots were two of twelve on third downs. The

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Speaker 1: up on third downs. The Patriots, though, were one of

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Speaker 1: two on fourth downs. The Bills were zero for one.

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Speaker 1: Patriots held the ball for thirty two to oh one,

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Speaker 1: the Bills had it for twenty seven to fifty nine.

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Speaker 2: I mean, time possession is important, but you know you're

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's just how many almost have

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Speaker 2: you're probably not going to break long or plays. Maybe

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Speaker 2: if the Steelers can get three more first downs than

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Speaker 2: the Bills throughout the course of an entire game, is

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Speaker 2: that a large accomplishment? I think it is.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Patriots had eleven first downs in that game.

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Speaker 1: The Bills had sixteen. But the Bills threw the ball up,

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Speaker 1: and they threw the ball up. You put the ball

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Speaker 1: more in harm's way. And I mean fifteen completetions for

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Speaker 1: twenty five times for ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: Yards, and I bet they were written not running it more.

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Speaker 1: Probably so the Patriots ran it forty six times for

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Speaker 2: Who were the Bills running backs? If you don't mind

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Speaker 1: Box, it was Singletary, Zach Moss and that Brita.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was sitting here thinking, like, they don't have

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Speaker 1: Just didn't, you know, for whatever reason, they didn't never

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Speaker 1: They kind of did.

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Speaker 2: More than they usually do, but still it was an

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Speaker 2: Allen centric game. How many carries did Allen have?

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Speaker 1: Uh? He had the six for thirty nine.

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Speaker 2: Okay if you're the Steelers, unusual for him, Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: Okay, he six carries for thirty nine yards.

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Speaker 2: I'd take anyweather. I'd take that underwater up.

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Speaker 1: He had a long run of twenty one yards. Really,

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Speaker 1: the difference in that game was the sixty four yard

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said it came down to one big play.

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Speaker 2: That was what I'm unpacking at all that.

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Speaker 1: Because really Buffalo's long pass was twenty twenty digs At

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, right, So that's a huge play. But under

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Speaker 2: those circumstances, Wow, that's crazy. So what are our takeaways

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Speaker 2: on that? Don't miss tackles?

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Speaker 1: Tackle, yeah, tack right, but also your commitment to the

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Speaker 1: run game, don't you know, just because it's third and

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Speaker 1: eight doesn't mean you have to throw the football, or

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Speaker 1: if you do throw the football, make sure it's something

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Speaker 1: easy to complete. The dump offs of Jalen Moore, and

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Speaker 2: Ball in the air for any kind of distance isn't

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that we don't know, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure on this in that I've been there a

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Speaker 1: few times when it's been there's been weather games obviously

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Speaker 1: more than actually more than a few, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is it a crosswind? Does it blow you know, from

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Speaker 1: one end zone to the other.

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Speaker 2: I was actually gonna ask you that question. I figured

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Speaker 2: you had no idea. I mean, way does the wind

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Speaker 2: blow in that stadium? I mean, I don't know that answer.

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Speaker 1: The Bills will, but if it is kind of a crosswind,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't benefit anybody.

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Speaker 2: No, you'd rather have it at your back or going into.

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Speaker 1: It well one way or the other. So you know

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Speaker 2: To take certainly punting shad go fourth and fourth and one.

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Speaker 2: And you wonder just from a punting perspective, not that

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Speaker 1: Or you got to try to actually you try to

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Speaker 2: But if the field's super soft, it's not gonna get

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Speaker 1: I mean, Oswan Bass are two of the better kickers

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Speaker 2: You don't kick from there. You probably kick from like

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Speaker 1: But one gust right, the gust the gusts come into play.

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Speaker 2: Sharp Yeah, it was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had all the analytics from every game played

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Speaker 1: And his biggest takeaway was under.

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Speaker 2: As they bet the unders he kept coming.

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Speaker 1: Will not be a lot of points scored in that game.

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Speaker 2: Well what if they're twenty Now what if they're twenty two,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is even extra more extreme than that.

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Speaker 2: Buffaloes ran the ball they have and I think their

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Speaker 2: And it's almost like they're and you know when they

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Speaker 2: It is who's more equipped to play with big people

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Speaker 2: Allen's a big person that's going to carry the ball.

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Speaker 1: And he's I mean, he's their biggest ball carrier.

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Speaker 1: Right, So do they change your personality? Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of left handed stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, guys that don't play a lot of

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Speaker 2: And the Steelers come out with Chucks and Washington and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you don't have to declare, hey, we're going

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Speaker 2: But do you even care this week? Right, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: So I mean you could there's you could run some

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Speaker 2: On the field. He can catch the ball. Washington can

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Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, yes, yes. The other thing I was thinking of, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I think if I blitz, I'm blitzing my inside linebackers

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's been good under pressure, he's been great

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, but we're going to get to a break.

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Speaker 1: back with more right after this. Welcome back to the Drive.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson. And well,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a Black Monday situation, but we saw a

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Speaker 1: the NFL. But it wasn't the guy that everybody's been

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Speaker 1: But didn't see this one coming Pete Carroll out in Seattle, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: He's you know, I think he's a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: I think he's had a tremendous career. I give him

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Speaker 1: that point, and they were white competitive, and you know, he.

439
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Speaker 2: Got all these first round picks for Wilson. Looked like

440
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Speaker 2: they were building that out pretty nicely. But we also

441
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Speaker 2: just saw them live but two weeks ago or whatever

442
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,640
Speaker 2: and the defense disaster.

443
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Speaker 1: That's his side of the ball.

444
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they traded for Jamal Adams, they traded

445
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Speaker 2: for Leonard Williams. There's some high picks on that side

446
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Speaker 2: of the ball. They signed Bobby Wagner and it's bad,

447
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Speaker 2: you know. So I wonder, I mean, did Rabel getting

448
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,200
Speaker 2: fired all of a sudden their ownership's like he's available

449
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,600
Speaker 2: with him or there's a ripple effect of some of

450
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Speaker 2: these things too.

451
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I could see dan Quinn being on

452
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Speaker 1: their wish list absolutely. I mean that makes a lot

453
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Speaker 1: of sense. A guy that was he was their defensive

454
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Speaker 1: coordinator in the legion of Boom days. There's a hot

455
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Speaker 1: name out there, and we're like, hey, if we're going

456
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Speaker 1: to we want to try to if we want to

457
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Speaker 1: try to get dan Quinn to be our replacement for

458
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Speaker 1: this is our chance.

459
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Speaker 2: This is our chance. Yeah, Pete's getting up in age.

460
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Speaker 2: We could have Quinn for ten years or Pete for one. Yeah,

461
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Speaker 2: I didn't think of that. I know, I bet that.

462
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we know what he is. He's been in our building.

463
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Speaker 1: He knows like how we want to play us.

464
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a relationship there that makes all the sense

465
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Speaker 2: in the world. So I'm want to throw something at

466
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Speaker 2: you because on my podcast today we were talking coaching

467
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Speaker 2: stuff and kind of came to the conclusion that this

468
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Speaker 2: is one of the best group of coaches you can

469
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Speaker 2: hire that I can remember. Like, I mean, guys, you

470
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Speaker 2: might be able to get Belichick, Harbaugh, Vrabel, plus of

471
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Speaker 2: the hot coordinators that are always there, you know, Baltimore's

472
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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator, Detroit's offensive coordinator, which are total unknowns. But

473
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Speaker 2: I feel like there's a good crop that you could

474
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Speaker 2: actually get somebody pretty solid, more so than most years

475
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Speaker 2: where it's just a bunch of no name guys, you

476
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Speaker 2: know to be I look at the situation with Belichick, and.

477
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Speaker 1: I get it if you're trying to sell some tickets.

478
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Speaker 1: But he's a year younger than actually he might be

479
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Speaker 1: older than Pete Carroll. They're neck and that kind I mean,

480
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Speaker 1: they're like seventy one seventy two years old, You're you're

481
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Speaker 1: basically renting a coach in that situation.

482
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Speaker 2: That's a point. I mean, like, I almost just ask

483
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Speaker 2: you this, but I thought the answer is too obvious.

484
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Speaker 2: Carol's not going to coach the NFL again, right.

485
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I he's moving into a into a advisory role.

486
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Speaker 2: Oh thewks y Okay, I just saw a headline. Okay,

487
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 2: so he's gonna still be employed by the organization.

488
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's seventy two years old at some point. I

489
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Speaker 1: don't care how energetic you are.

490
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Speaker 2: Sure, you know, I mean, you're still gonna communicate with

491
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Speaker 2: twenty year olds too, and yeah, and be sharp and

492
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Speaker 2: all those things. Because everyone's talking about Belichick is, oh,

493
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Speaker 2: he's not done coaching, Well, why they wouldn't say the

494
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Speaker 2: same thing about Carol. Yeah, No, I I get that point.

495
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Speaker 2: I don't think Belichick's done though.

496
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Speaker 1: No, I don't think he is either. I think he

497
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Speaker 1: had absolutely wants to coach because he's I think he

498
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Speaker 1: needs fourteen or fifteen wins to catch Don Schulz, the

499
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Speaker 1: all time winning his coach in NFL history.

500
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Speaker 2: I think he's two or three away from three hundred two.

501
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Speaker 1: But again, I think you're you're renting him like he's

502
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Speaker 1: not a long term answer for you.

503
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Speaker 2: So well, he's not gonna be Tomlin, you know, right, coward, No,

504
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Speaker 2: he wouldn't be the model or on him.

505
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Speaker 1: You're putting yourself back into a situation where, Okay, for

506
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Speaker 1: the short term, we're getting Bill Belichick. In the long term,

507
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Speaker 1: three years from now, we could be looking for another

508
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Speaker 1: new head coach.

509
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and I think there's a really good chance

510
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Speaker 2: he ends up in Atlanta. But if I'm Washington or

511
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 2: the Chargers and just need a culture change, like Bill,

512
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Speaker 2: I only need you for two years. I just get

513
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Speaker 2: all the cobwebs out of this nasty place and painted

514
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Speaker 2: a different color, you know what I mean.

515
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I heard this about the Chargers. I

516
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Speaker 1: think I was right after they made the move. I

517
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: was driving back from Cincinnati or somewhere, and they had

518
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Speaker 1: one of the Chargers beat writers on the NFL show

519
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Speaker 1: that I was listening to, and they were asking about,

520
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, where do you look for a replacement?

521
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Speaker 1: He says, guys, don't look at all the big names

522
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Speaker 1: because the Chargers can't afford They're not going to spend them.

523
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Speaker 1: They're not going to spend. What they've done is spent,

524
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Speaker 1: you know, instead of spending twenty million dollars a year

525
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Speaker 1: or twenty five or whatever it's going to cost you

526
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Speaker 1: to get one of the big names, they'd much rather

527
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Speaker 1: spend eight to get an up and coming guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is absolutely true. I don't think

529
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Speaker 2: there's like any chance Harbi ins up there.

530
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Speaker 1: They're renners in their own stadium.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean I was listening to a podcast with

532
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Speaker 2: Chase Daniel and he wasn't ripping on the Chargers, but

533
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Speaker 2: he was just talking about all the different stops he's

534
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Speaker 2: been and he's like, the training facility, the food, everything's

535
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Speaker 2: cheaper with the Chargers, you know. I guess they're they're

536
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Speaker 2: building a new facility as we speak, but the one

537
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Speaker 2: they have now is like in a strip mall. You like,

538
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Speaker 2: it's not the normal NFL. I'm not saying they're cheap,

539
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Speaker 2: they're just not gonna spend hey, I mean, you call

540
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Speaker 2: it whatever you want, but they're not gonna give hardbout

541
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Speaker 2: twenty five million a year. Yeah, and there's no chance.

542
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Speaker 1: No, I just don't see that or Belichick get it right.

543
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Speaker 1: So I just don't see those guys being a possibility here. Now,

544
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Speaker 1: maybe they decide, hey, we got to go for it

545
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Speaker 1: here and do that.

546
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Speaker 2: But and then the opposite side of it's Carolina'll give

547
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Speaker 2: you a thing you want, but nobody wants to go there, right.

548
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Speaker 2: I think like Atlanta might be a happy medium. Maybe

549
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Speaker 2: washing in the happy medium.

550
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Speaker 1: We might we might not be done yet. There might

551
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Speaker 1: be more surprises out there.

552
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Speaker 2: I bet there are.

553
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Speaker 1: You know, the Dallas open you know, if let's say

554
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Speaker 1: Green Bay goes into Dallas, the one winn.

555
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Speaker 2: For some of these teams could be enough for someone

556
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Speaker 2: to get the boot. I mean, Marty Schottenheimer got canned

557
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Speaker 2: after fourteen and two seasons, and I think you want

558
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Speaker 2: a playoff game or two.

559
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Speaker 1: That's Washington. There's no that was that was Chargers, right, Yeah,

560
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Speaker 1: I mean so Washington fired them after an eight and

561
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Speaker 1: eight season, which was which at that point, their best

562
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Speaker 1: season under Snyder.

563
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Speaker 2: No talent. Yeah, I took them to where they hadn't

564
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Speaker 2: been before. No, I still think there's gonna be a

565
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Speaker 2: lot of moving I didn't see Carroll coming. I mean, yeah,

566
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: but that Quinn call makes a lot of sense to me.

567
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that one just hit me.

568
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Speaker 2: What we're saying. Yeah, Well, done. I like it, but so.

569
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Speaker 1: These X you know, if Belichick does leave, Carroll was

570
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Speaker 1: I believe the third longest tenured coaching the NFL. I'd

571
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Speaker 1: been there is twenty.

572
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Speaker 2: Tenkay, Tomlin's got a year on HARBA.

573
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Speaker 1: Tomlin will be the longest. Tomlin and Harbaugh will be

574
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Speaker 1: one and two.

575
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Speaker 2: Yeah, adds up.

576
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: They're in their current situation, right.

577
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Speaker 2: I mean like Peyton took a year off and some

578
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 2: of these other days. Reid's been around a while, but

579
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: not in the same place.

580
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Speaker 1: So when I look at that and you and you

581
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: hear all the stuff about Tomlin, and we've talked about

582
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Speaker 1: this in the past, and Harbaugh was on the hot

583
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Speaker 1: seat in twenty nineteen when they drafted Lamar, when they

584
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: drafted Lamar hasn't been on the hot seat since. They've

585
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Speaker 1: won one playoff game since twenty twelve when they went

586
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Speaker 1: when they won the Super Bowl.

587
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, one one.

588
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're one and three with Lamar in the playoffs.

589
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Speaker 2: I know his playoff records bad. I didn't realize it

590
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: was that long of a stretch with only one with

591
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Speaker 2: one yeah, and it's stuff's not uncommon.

592
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Speaker 1: It's not uncommon. That's that's my point. I mean, this

593
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Speaker 1: is this happens.

594
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Speaker 2: Especially with the Brady year in the AFC. Right, they

595
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Speaker 2: didn't lose.

596
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Speaker 1: Men, they dominated, They dominated the era, and now the

597
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Speaker 1: Chiefs have as well. I mean you went from Brady

598
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Speaker 1: into into Mahome into Mahomes.

599
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

600
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: And if you don't have one of those guys.

601
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Speaker 2: Or if you're not that strong of a you know,

602
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Speaker 2: just an organization football team. Two teams are loaded, I

603
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: mean Hall of Fame coaches and quarterbacks. Yeah, and good teams.

604
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: Right, it's difficult. It's tough to win playoff games in

605
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Speaker 1: the NFL.

606
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 2: Really is unbelievably hard. I remember us doing this a

607
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Speaker 2: couple of years ago. Just taught if you're five hundred

608
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: in playoff games, you're killing it. Yeah, I mean killing it.

609
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: But I've heard and seen things. Tomlin needs to win

610
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Speaker 1: this playoff game this year in Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: You're a ten point dog. I mean, no, I don't

612
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Speaker 2: see it that we can go into this. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think withhous money.

614
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Speaker 1: You weren't supposed to be here. According to most of

615
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Speaker 1: the pundits, you were supposed to finish last in your division.

616
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Speaker 2: I mean, you're playing with the guy that opened the

617
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: season as your third stree quarterback. Now he's spending the

618
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: best of player of them all.

619
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Speaker 1: But you know you're over under in Vegas was eight

620
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Speaker 1: and a half wins. Yeah, yeah, which was I believe,

621
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Speaker 1: what are there sixteen teams in the AFC? That was like,

622
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Speaker 1: if I remember correctly.

623
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Speaker 2: Like twelve because the AFC is so good. Because the

624
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Speaker 2: AFC was so loaded, I mean teams like the Jets

625
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: were heavy them and Chargers and Jags and yeah.

626
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: Steelers played thirteen games this year against teams that finished

627
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Speaker 1: with a winning record. They went eight and five in

628
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Speaker 1: those games.

629
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and I was looking at this today too,

630
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Speaker 2: that they had the tenth hardest schedule by EPA when

631
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: it's all said and done, you know, like this is

632
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: who you played when you played him. It was the

633
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 2: tenth hardest schedule, third hardest stress stretch of defenses, I

634
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: mean in the whole league. And I said eight and

635
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Speaker 2: five against teams that ended up five hundred or better.

636
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, five and three against other teams that made the playoffs.

637
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: So you're not you're not the typical seven seed in

638
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: many ways.

639
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: No, you've beaten good team, you've beaten You've.

640
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: Got two wins against Baltimore and I don't care who

641
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 1: they played in the last game. Yeah, you beat them

642
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: seventeen to ten both times, and it didn't you know,

643
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: the players were the players. You beat Cleveland, you beat

644
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: the Packers, you beat the Rams.

645
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: I mean there's plenty instances like Miami comes to mind,

646
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: but I'm sure there's others and tons of them in

647
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: recent history. Okay, you beat all the bad teams of

648
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: your favorite against you lost against all the teams you

649
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: weren't you know, Okay, that's okay, that's what's expected. Well

650
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: this isn't what was expected out of Steelers.

651
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: Right, I mean we weren't expecting that when the schedule

652
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Speaker 1: came out. Oh that's that's you know.

653
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: You gotta you better.

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Speaker 1: You better win all your games early because that last

655
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Speaker 1: three game stretches. That's gonna be brutal. You probably might

656
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Speaker 1: not win any of those. Well they won all three of.

657
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Speaker 2: Them, they win all three of them, but probably they'll

658
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: get the three wins before that though, or you know,

659
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: definitely those two back to backers at home, they're money

660
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Speaker 2: in the back.

661
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: It's the NFL.

662
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's hard.

663
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: It's the NFL. You just don't know, And.

664
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Speaker 2: No cupcakes in the playoffs. Going back to no playoff

665
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: records and getting getting a playoff win is and I

666
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: almost feel like any team, and this is a little

667
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: too far of a statement, even the Niners or Ravens

668
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: this year, if you won one playoff game and then

669
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: got eliminated, can you say it's a bad year. I mean,

670
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: even if it's a seventy eight Steelers or Montana's Niners.

671
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Speaker 1: Like, well, for the Niners and Ravens, and if they

672
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Speaker 1: win one game, they're in the conference.

673
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: Camp champions, so they would be eliminated. It'll be a

674
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: final four team. I don't know that that's a bad

675
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: year for them. I mean if the Ravens win next

676
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: week and lose to Kansas City at home twenty one

677
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: to twenty or whatever, oh they stink. I don't see

678
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: it that way. I mean the final four team, well,

679
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: what is what?

680
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: He gets? Six games this weekend, four next week.

681
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: I should shouldn't be this hard to figure out what

682
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: set eight?

683
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Eight? Okay?

684
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: Now, I mean there's seven teams.

685
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: And these people are screaming at their they are my brains.

686
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: So there will be four teams left in each conference, right,

687
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: So that's four games, four games, yeah, and then you

688
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: have two games, yeah, and then so so you're talking

689
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: twelve wins.

690
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 2: Total available available for for the entire league, thirteen total

691
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: in the playoffs for the entire league. The super winners

692
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: and the super Bowl team is going to get, yeah,

693
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: three or four of them, right, exactly.

694
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: And the team that doesn't win the super Bowl is

695
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: going to get two or three.

696
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: Or three of them, and then everyone else has to split,

697
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 2: you know, like five or whatever. Right. That's that's that's

698
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: the math, that's the mask, right, there will be x amount.

699
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: But you say thirteen wins.

700
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Speaker 1: Thirteen thirteen available wins in the playoffs, in the NFL playoffs,

701
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: they're in the bank.

702
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 2: Someone's going to go.

703
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: Somebody will get those. Yes, there won't be many times.

704
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: Right, and one teams can get three or four, One

705
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: teams can get two or three.

706
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Speaker 1: So now you're up to five or so of those.

707
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Speaker 2: You're on a super Bowl team, you're splitting.

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Speaker 1: Half of those games are going are going to be

709
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Speaker 1: won by two teams.

710
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the other doesn't get the other half. Yeah,

711
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: it's exactly right. Yeah, that's why playoff wins are tough. Yeah,

712
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: if you win the super Bowl, I mean that's like

713
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 2: the Mahome stuff play his playoff records great, and it is.

714
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Speaker 2: That's awesome because if you win the super Bowl once

715
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 2: or twice, you're playing money for a long you're a

716
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: four and o or three and o in that year

717
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: or even just going to the super Bowl. So really,

718
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: if you're not a super Bowl team, you can be

719
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Speaker 2: scrutinized pretty heavily that you're not a good enough playoff team. Yeah,

720
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: that's pretty high standard. It's a really high standard. If

721
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: you're like, for example, you're the Bills, you lose this one,

722
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: and there's ninety million albu our guts people were, oh,

723
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: they would diving through tables and yeah, right, I mean,

724
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: if the bills lose this game, mcdermot's seat's gonna get

725
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 2: hot after a five game winning streak to get in,

726
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: even if it's levels of playing field to that Patriot

727
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: Bills level where you're just hoping to get a bouncer

728
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: a big play.

729
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: Let's put it this way. Okay, So we both agree

730
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen is one of the top three or

731
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks and no question. His playoff records four and four, yeah.

732
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: Always wins of coming home.

733
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, four and four I.

734
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: Mean, let's say Lamar is the same example, he's worse. Yeah,

735
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna win the MVP.

736
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Speaker 1: Mahlmes has never won a road playoffs, never.

737
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Speaker 2: Even had to play one. I mean even Brady's career, how.

738
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Speaker 1: Many Brady's not many playoff career on the road. I mean,

739
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Speaker 1: if they did, if the Patriots weren't at home for

740
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: the playoffs, if they weren't the one or two seed, they.

741
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: Didn't win bad, right, didn't win a game, you had

742
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: to go to India to play Manning or you know,

743
00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: right right.

744
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, they never won a Super Bowl doing.

745
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so Again, i mean, if if the Ravens

746
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: lose next week, they're gonna get Lamar's a bomb.

747
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Kn't win. He'll be one and four in the playoffs.

748
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: If they don't get to the super Bowl this year, yeah,

749
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: if they gonna be if they win one game but

750
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: then losing the AFC Championship, he'll be two and four.

751
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: He's lose playoffs.

752
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: They shouldn't have signed him, right exactly.

753
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: You know, and that that's the reality of the situation.

754
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: When and they're one of the dozen teams fighting for

755
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: five spots and they about one of them at least

756
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: the great great quarterbacks.

757
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's tough to win playoff games, and.

758
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: It's i mean not impossible, but it's If you're at

759
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: five hundred, you're phenomenal. Yeah, I mean you're phenomenal. If

760
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: you're a coach or quarterback with the postseason winning percentage

761
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: of five hundred, you're one of the best.

762
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

763
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: I mean that's Nol, that's Walsh, that's Belichick, you know, right,

764
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: So I.

765
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Look at I'm looking at these playoff scores for Josh Allen,

766
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: what he's done in the playoffs. His first year was

767
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: not good. He was twenty four or forty six. I

768
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: don't think they want to throw the ball that much

769
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Speaker 1: in this game.

770
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Speaker 2: Right me from wrong? I think that's the year that

771
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: no one thought the Bills were going to the playoff, right.

772
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: They traded like Sammy Watkins and Robert Wood.

773
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: They went to Houston and they lost twenty two nineteen,

774
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Speaker 1: and they really, I'll kick their coverage even get it.

775
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: They were like the Giants last year.

776
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were.

777
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: That was in twenty nineteen when they came to Pittsburgh.

778
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: That year, both teams were eight and five, eight and six, Yeah,

779
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: eight and five. I'm sorry. Were both eight and five

780
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: and the winner was in good was in really good shape.

781
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: And the Bills ended up winning that game over Duck Hodges.

782
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: But they had no expectations to go to the playoff

783
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Speaker 2: at that point, and frankly I did. I was not

784
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: a Josh Allen believer coming out of college, certainly not

785
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Speaker 2: after year one. I mean he was a bad player

786
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: at that point as a rookie.

787
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So the next year he threw thirty five, thirty seven,

788
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Speaker 1: and then forty eight passes in their player in their

789
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: playoff frontka in twenty twenty one against New England, he

790
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: only threw twenty five passes in the opener, but they

791
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: won the game. Forty seven seventeen just destroyed that.

792
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

793
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: He had five touchdown asses and three hundred and eight

794
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: yards on twenty five passes. Yeah, he scores a lot

795
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: of touchdowns. Yeah, if you start taking in the stats.

796
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: Then they lost that ridiculous game to Kansas City the

797
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: next week. If you remember in the AFC Championship, that

798
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: was the one where they scored out Yeah, and then

799
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: the Chiefs scored in like six seconds.

800
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Speaker 2: That wasn't like the thirteen second game, was it?

801
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: That was the forty two to thirty six Yeah, yeah,

802
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: Allen had He threw the ball thirty seven times for

803
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty nine yards, four touchdowns, no interceptions,

804
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: and they lost.

805
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, classic game.

806
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Then last year, threw the ball thirty nine times

807
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: in a win over Miami. They won that one thirty

808
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: four to thirty one. Then they lost to the Bengals

809
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: twenty seven to ten at home.

810
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: That was a big lou Amarumo. Yeah, getting in his head.

811
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Speaker 1: Threw the ball forty two times in that game.

812
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Speaker 2: Okay, So I.

813
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: Mean his average in these playoff games is typically around

814
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: thirty five passes. They Buffalo, Yeah, they turned the ball

815
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: thirty five times in this game.

816
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: I think that's a mistake.

817
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a big mistake.

818
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did too. I'd be shocked if they do.

819
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: And they did make an offense coordinator change, and they've

820
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: been running the ball heavier and heavier as the season's

821
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: gone on, and he's been getting a lot of carries.

822
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: So I don't think they'll go down that road, but

823
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: I promise you they run them, they throw the ball

824
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 2: more than Steelers do. Assume he gets a close game, yeaheah,

825
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: I mean right, I mean, if it's thirty nothing in

826
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, the Steelers could be thrown it into

827
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 2: a hailstorm. Who knows.

828
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Speaker 1: But I mean, but you got to keep it close.

829
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: You gotta keep it close. But in these conditions, can

830
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: either team just run away with it?

831
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't see. I mean, even if you're you have

832
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: to turn the ball over a couple of times, yeah,

833
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: deep in your own territory and give them a couple.

834
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: I mean, even if it's Alabama versus pit I mean,

835
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 2: could they blow their doors off to the point where

836
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: it's not even competitive at halftime? You know, it's just

837
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: gonna be hard to move the ball.

838
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: But I just don't know that the rosters.

839
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: It could be seven and seven on air, how many

840
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 2: passes you're going to which you know, we got.

841
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: To do this. We got to take a look at

842
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: the each team's roster and see how we how we

843
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: think they stay back up. We'll do that when we

844
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: come back. He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lollie. You're

845
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're

846
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: going to take a break. We'll be back to finish

847
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Speaker 1: up our number one right after this. Welcome back. I

848
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: am Dale. Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson and uh sorry,

849
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: we just wanted to apologize for those who were out

850
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: there hoping to hear us live at four o'clock. We

851
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: had some things that were beyond our control for you

852
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: hopefully get doing this show at four o'clock.

853
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: We should, Yeah.

854
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: We did our part of it. But anyways, So taking

855
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: a look here at Buffalo's depth chart, Matt, Yeah.

856
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: Let's do this, okay, because I think people need to

857
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: know their names too. You know, there's some names and

858
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 2: that it's not Edmunds and White and some of those

859
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: dudes you're used to seeing. So let's dig in.

860
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: Okay. A quarterback, we know they got Josh Allen with

861
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen as the backup.

862
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 2: He's one of the bad Allen.

863
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: He's the bad Allen. Yeah playing if yeah, if he

864
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: takes snaps in this game, you're in good shape.

865
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyle Allen's Kyle oul be fifth on the the five.

866
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Josh would be one.

867
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: Obviously that they have an advantage.

868
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: No question about it. They do against just about everybody.

869
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Speaker 1: He's a really when I look at their roster, that's

870
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: the only one clear advantage that Buffalo has I guess.

871
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 2: When we go position by position, I will probably agree

872
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 2: with you knowing it off the top of my head.

873
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 2: But their roster to me is a little overrated. Yeah,

874
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: I mean because he he lifts.

875
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: All he's a the odor and he he cleans up

876
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: everything else. At running back it's James Cook, Leonard Fournette,

877
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,240
Speaker 1: and Latavious Murray. I'll take the Steelers running backs.

878
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: I'm a big Cook fan, and he's had a great year. Yeah,

879
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: but he even if he's won the top three year

880
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: obvious and two of them are Steelers, and I'm not

881
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 2: even suggesting he is one because he can't do what

882
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: naug You can.

883
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: Get two touchdowns this year?

884
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: Really, that doesn't surprise. He's got a lot of total yards,

885
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 2: but not lately. I mean a lot of them were

886
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: right after the coordinator change. He was getting the ball

887
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: like crazy. Now Allen's running.

888
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know that they want

889
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: to give it to him to twenty five times a game. Oh,

890
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't think they can, right, I don't think he

891
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: can handle that.

892
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: I think Warren's more of an every down back than he.

893
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: I think that's why they They've elevated four nets.

894
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I've been critical of them. Is they need Mike Alstart,

895
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: they need Vedis so they I mean they need.

896
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: To It's not Latavious Murray, who came out in the

897
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: same draft as Le'Veon Bell.

898
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: No reason Murray plays because he's great in protection. Yeah,

899
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: I mean he's an old man that knows how to

900
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: protect and he's big, but he can't move real quick.

901
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: On Alan, how about this, He's accounted for eighty six

902
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: point three of the percent of the Bills touchdowns this year. Yeah,

903
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: like every touchdown has basically gone through him.

904
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Cook doesn't get him. I mean, pass

905
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: or run. It's bonkers a wide receiver. It's Stefan Diggs,

906
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: Gabe Davis who didn't practice today, Khalil Shakir. Then you

907
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: have Trent Sherfield and Deontay Hardy.

908
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: Hardy's a very good return guy. He's the one that

909
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: took it to the house last week, but he's not

910
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 2: much of a.

911
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: He's not going to give you anything.

912
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: Has a better wide out than him, you know, so

913
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 2: I would rank them, and I do fear a little

914
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: bit that Diggs is starting to slip and his playoff

915
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: numbers are actually quite bad. But he's still won. I

916
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: would go Diggs, Pickens, Johnson, Gap Davis, Shakir Robinson, and

917
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: Austin whatever order you want. I mean, they're so different,

918
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: so that's a push at worst.

919
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: At worst for a team that has stuff on Diggs, right, Like,

920
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: you have two of those guys they have won.

921
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he's clearly one.

922
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's amazing one, you know, but but he's I

923
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: mean his numbers are but you've had but you've got

924
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: two of them. Yeah, I'll they've got one A, you've

925
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: got two B pluss.

926
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 2: Or two B yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean if you

927
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: add up the collective score of who plays in particular.

928
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if Gabe Davis doesn't play.

929
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: Right because Sherfield's really a four.

930
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Davis is to take the top off the

931
00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: off the defense guy. Now they don't have that agreed. Yeah.

932
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 1: At tight end, it's Dalton Kincaid, it is Dawson Knox,

933
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: Quinton Morris. That might be one area where I would

934
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: look at what the Bills have, But it's a different build.

935
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: It's a very different build. But I would give them

936
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: the nod there. Yeah, they don't have a Washington Knox

937
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: is fine.

938
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean he's like when they come out in twelve

939
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: or thirteen personnel.

940
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 2: It's really like eleven and a half. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

941
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 2: that's like that's why they drafted Kinka.

942
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: It's but it's not like when the Steelers come out

943
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: in thirteen personnel and just pound it down your throat.

944
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: These guys aren't going to do that.

945
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: I think Kinkaid will be a star and had a

946
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: really good rookie season, and he's the best receiver of

947
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 2: any tight end in this game. But he's the worst

948
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: blocker too. Yeah. I mean, he's not gonna if you

949
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 2: ask him to block Water high Smith or any of

950
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: those type of things that Washington would do, you're going

951
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 2: to lose that situation. But he lines up in the slot.

952
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: Their tight ends, i think, are a better group than

953
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: the Steelers.

954
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree. Fullback, it's Reggie Gilliam. Well, that

955
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: is what it is. We include him. But on the

956
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: offfensive line, you got Dion Dawkins at left tackle, David

957
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 1: Edwards at left guard, Mitch Morse at center, Osirius Torrence

958
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: at right guard, and Spencer Brown at right tackle.

959
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: That's actually I'm glad you mentioned Edwards because he's really

960
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: their sixth guy, it's McGovern. Yeah, he's the one that's played.

961
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: There's they're starting five, has played like every snap this year.

962
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: It's almost to the Steelers level from last year. And

963
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 2: the guy mentioned whoever they have listed is a left

964
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: guard is Edwards. Yeah, he's the extra guy. Dawkins is

965
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: still a very good left tackle. Morse is a solid center.

966
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 2: I think I think Torrance will be a good guard

967
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: and is a good run blocker, wide body guy, but

968
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: he looks like he's hitting the wall as a huge

969
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: human being as a rookie in his pass protection needs

970
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: a lot of work. Brown is one of these like

971
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: six to eight dak Yeah, and he's a tight end.

972
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: I think he's but he's a tight end that grew

973
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: into his pause. But he is a problematic. To be

974
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: honest with you, I think it's about a wash. To

975
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I think they have a good line.

976
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 2: They both have above average lines, not great.

977
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: I think I'd take the Steelers line run blocking all

978
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: day long.

979
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'd suit that way. I think this is

980
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: a better pass blocking line.

981
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they're I think they're set up to

982
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: block for Josh Allen.

983
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: Steelers are a better run blocking line, which is why

984
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 2: they drafted Torrents. Yeah, I mean.

985
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: They wanted somebody potentially run behind.

986
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, fourth and one, who do you run behind? But

987
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 2: he's not there yet. And he's not there yet.

988
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

989
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: So the other thing is, like, unbelievably, the Bills have

990
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: thirty more sacks than they've allowed, but Allen is the

991
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: best quarterback and Simon close for pressures that don't turn

992
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 2: into sacks. So this pass blocking group does allow a

993
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 2: fair amount of pressure, but putting him on the ground

994
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: doesn't always occur. Remember Ben in the day, Yeah, you

995
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: know right, I mean that that type of thing, Yeah.

996
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: For sure.

997
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: So I think they're similar in terms of if you

998
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 2: were to rank them one to thirty two, it'd be

999
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: pretty close to each yeah.

1000
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: Uh. Moving over to their defensive side of things, and

1001
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: they play they have a lot of the highest rate

1002
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: of nickel in the league. They live in nickel. So

1003
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: on the defensive line, you've got Gregor, Gregory Rousso, Ed,

1004
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: Oliver da Que, Jones, Leonard Floyd. It's a good group.

1005
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: Three or four, a lot of high picks. Three of

1006
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: them are first round picks. Floyd they didn't draft, but

1007
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: the other two they did. Jones. They gave money.

1008
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: They're built to rush to pass that they're all Ferraris

1009
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: except for Jones. Yeah, and I think they have Lynn

1010
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: bel Joseph on the roster now too. Yeah, he's down

1011
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:39,479
Speaker 1: to depth chart.

1012
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1013
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: Puna Ford's another guy. Yeah.

1014
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do like there's some big stuff, but there

1015
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 2: Jones missed a lot of time. He came back three

1016
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 2: or four weeks ago, and he goes a long way

1017
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: to actually giving them some sort of anchor because none

1018
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 2: of those other dudes are anchored type.

1019
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: I mean Ed Oliver is a two hundred and eighty

1020
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: pound defensive tackle.

1021
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he ran like a linebacker at the

1022
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: Combine and he's had a really good year. He's an

1023
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: upfield player, but he's not big. Who are their other

1024
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 2: ends behind Rousseau.

1025
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: Shaq Lawson, a Jessam Kingsley, Johnson Johnson.

1026
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: Uh and Miller.

1027
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 1: Miller has been inactive.

1028
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: He has not a thing. Yeah, I mean, so there's

1029
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,760
Speaker 2: a lot of high picks and a lot of money

1030
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 2: spent there at Oliver just got an extension, but there's

1031
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: not a lot of physicality or oomph. You know.

1032
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: They're built to rush the passer because they expect to

1033
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: have the lead.

1034
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 2: Now, if we're going to compare all those dudes to

1035
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: all the Steelers d lineman and edge guys minus Watt

1036
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: minus wat you have to take to go Bills. But

1037
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: plus what, it isn't close.

1038
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, I hear you.

1039
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 2: But it's sort of close without them because I expect her.

1040
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: Because to be good. And you know, I think the

1041
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: Steelers are a better run stopping group. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1042
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: they might be better suited to pass rush. But are

1043
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: we going to see a game where pass rush is

1044
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: going to matter a whole bunch?

1045
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: This goes back to a theme I keep talking about

1046
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: with the Bills is they've built themselves to beat the Chiefs. Yeah,

1047
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: not play a physical, grinded team three feet of Snoweah

1048
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: in their own stadium.

1049
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, there's no doubt about it. Yeah, I think

1050
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: there's I think the Steelers had to learn that the

1051
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: hard way.

1052
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: I think the Bills might learn it the hard way.

1053
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: I think they're in the midst of it. I think

1054
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: that's why they haven't been able to quite be where

1055
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: they need to be. It's different if you get to

1056
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: the super Bowl and it's in a dome or beautiful weather.

1057
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: You got to get there.

1058
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: The linebackers are Terrell Dodson. He's kind of replaced Milano Milano,

1059
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: but he's hurt. Yeah, I don't know if he's gonlay

1060
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: the shoulder injury, Yeah, shoulder injury in that game the

1061
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: other day. He's their big linebacker. He's two hundred and

1062
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: thirty seven pounds.

1063
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, most of the guys are running hit small.

1064
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard is the other guy. He's too, twenty six.

1065
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: I think he's exceptional though.

1066
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: He's very good.

1067
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're happy to move on from Edmonds.

1068
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: He's a juiced up safety.

1069
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: I think he's like five to eleven. Yeah, like he

1070
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 2: doesn't look like Edmunds. You know what any means I

1071
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: would still take their linebackers considering the state of the Steelers.

1072
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: I hear you, you know what I mean.

1073
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: But it's not Milano and Edmonds, No, it's not.

1074
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: And you know, Dorian Williams is the other guy they

1075
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: mixed in there, and he's a rookie. He's a two

1076
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five pound he's.

1077
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 2: The the Tulsa kid that ran a four to four

1078
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 2: and yeah, right exactly, that's what they're looking for.

1079
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: They're meant to run and chase, not tackle two hundred

1080
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: and forty pound running backs.

1081
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 2: Again, this is how they're built. They play nickel with

1082
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: a lot of speed, but Jerome bats would run right

1083
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: through them. You know, like you've got to know who

1084
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: you you know your environment at cornerback.

1085
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: And this is where it gets problematic for them, And.

1086
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 2: It depends a lot on Douglas as health.

1087
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Speaker 1: Depends a ton on Douglas health.

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00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,760
Speaker 2: You can trade it for him at the trade deadline.

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00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: For you got tarn Johnson.

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00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: He plays every snap, then you have Douglas on.

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00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: The other side. If he doesn't play, they moved in

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00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: Dane Jackson last week, the.

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00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: Former Elert right the first round pack.

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00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: Tier elam is buried on the Depth Show.

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00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: Okay, I know they're not happy with it. He doesn't

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00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: play much.

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00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: Then you're looking at Christian Benford. I think Benford plays

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00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: the nickel for them.

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00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah, and Johnson has been their

1100
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: nickel like when they had White and when they have

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00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: a pretty set there. I think Johnson went inside Douglas.

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00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: I mean they didn't have to give up a ton

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00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: to get him into the trade deadline. He's made a

1104
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: lot of picks. He's talented, he's big, he's probably can

1105
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: get paid well in the offseason, but he's important for him.

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00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: He didn't practice today.

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00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 2: I mean I'll take Porter over all those guys. Yeah,

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00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: and that's not close. I mean, would they would Levi

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00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: I be playing for them if he stuck around they

1110
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 2: had on the occasion. Yeah, well they drafted Elam.

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00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: They drafted and that didn't work out. I mean, would

1112
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: would Patrick Peterson be playing a lot of snaps for them?

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00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: Probably, as you know, as constructed, probably would be too. Yeah,

1114
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 2: I think it's a wash. Maybe lean towards the Steeler.

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00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: I would lean a little towards the Steelers because they

1116
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: have a guy that that's a shutdown cornerback.

1117
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: Now they have the best guy.

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00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: I don't know that. Yeah, I don't know that that

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00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: the Bills, No.

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00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: They don't ye And frankly, I'd be worried about White.

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00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: I know he's not in this game, but that poor

1122
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: guy had suffered a bad injury. But he was one

1123
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: of the best corners in the league. Yeah, his career

1124
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: might not be ever be the same. Unfortunately, then it's safety.

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00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: You have Poyer and Hide and you would look at

1126
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: that typically and say, oh, that's you know, that's the Bills.

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00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: This is not the Poyer and Hide to three years ago.

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00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: No, they're starting to what years are they in They're.

1129
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: Like, they're both over thirty.

1130
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both been around.

1131
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: I'll take a healthy Minke of Fitzpatrick coming back, sure

1132
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: with what the Steelers now have with Kazy and Eric Rowe.

1133
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would too, because MinC is back.

1134
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, because MinC is back.

1135
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: Because Mink is back. He's he's enough for me. But

1136
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 2: a lot of these conversations are really close. Yeah, I mean,

1137
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: it just depends on what kind of game is it

1138
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 2: going to be, and the teams are really constructed differently.

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00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: If this game were in Miami, these Steelers are playing

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00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 1: the Bills in Miami, Oh.

1141
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: You love the Bills.

1142
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: He'd loved the Bills.

1143
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: It would be more than a ten point spread. Right now.

1144
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: I think it should be less than a ten point spread,

1145
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's stupid things like the safeties.

1146
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 2: They're one of the biggest two high teams in the league.

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00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 1: They're gonna play a lot of too high in this game,

1148
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: right They're gonna have one of those guys sninking down

1149
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: into the box. Because if they're too high, Steelers might

1150
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: average about six yards of carry exactly.

1151
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: But just in terms of construction, the Steelers are one

1152
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: of the single high most teams in the league, you know,

1153
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 2: because you gotta makeut you know. So I don't love

1154
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: the way they're built, but they have good players. But

1155
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 2: Alan is the ultimate X fact.

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00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: They're built to play a certain way, and you're right,

1157
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: Alan is the is the X factor. He erases some

1158
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 1: of the issues that they had big time.

1159
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: But but they're not January and Buffalo built.

1160
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: No, they're not. It's a weird build.

1161
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: It's a weird build. I mean even their d Liman

1162
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: they're all quick, get off, twitchy, first round pick combined

1163
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 2: dudes and all.

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00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: We're up fourteen points, so we can just go rush

1165
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: the passer.

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00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: Right right, which is great when you're up at fourteen

1167
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: points and you're discrustioning the passer. But in the snow

1168
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 2: and slop of Buffalo, it's always easy to get to it.

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00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why, like they went to

1170
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: New England and lost Patriots the ball down her throat.

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00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: They're kind of built like the Colts under Peyton Manning

1172
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: and Dome, you know, like, but if you go to

1173
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: New England and play Bruskie and Belichick, it's like, we're

1174
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 2: not so good at this right.

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00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: So interesting.

1176
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 2: No, I mean they're a good team, but they're roster's

1177
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: not as good as people think.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm with you, We're gonna take another break. That's

1179
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Speaker 1: going to do it for our number one, Matt and

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Speaker 1: I will be back with our number two. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.