1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Podcast play hand. Welcome to Taking a Walk music History 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: on foot. I'm Buzznight, your host, and please follow us 3 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart, tune in, or wherever you 4 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: get your podcast, and kindly share this with a friend 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: or multiple friends. We appreciate it. Leave us a rating 6 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: when you follow us, and you could also go to 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: our website at Takin a Walk dot com to not 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: only hear all of the episodes, but you could leave 9 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: us comments, suggestions, maybe guest ideas, maybe you even want 10 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: to be a guest. And you could also sign up 11 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: for our newsletter right there at taking a Walk dot com. 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: I've been looking forward to meeting up with our next 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: guest in a big way. She is a rare talent 14 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: who continues to stand the test of time. She has 15 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: an internationally acclaim recording catalog. She began her career as 16 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: co founder and lead singer the groundbreaking all female new 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: wave rock band The Go Gos. Songs like Our Lips 18 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: Are Sealed and We Got the Beat became anthems for 19 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: our generation and still are to this day. After the 20 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: band went their separate ways in nineteen eighty five, Belinda 21 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: Carlile wasted no time In forging her solo path with 22 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: hits like Matt About You and Heaven Is a Place 23 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: on Earth, Belinda was creating her next chapter and she 24 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: continues to do that to this day with a new 25 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: collaboration with the legendary songwriter Diane Warren called Big Big Love. 26 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: She's celebrating thirty five years as a solo performer for 27 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: their critically acclaimed Decades tour as well. Let's welcome Belinda 28 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: Carlyle to take a walk. Welcome Belinda. I'm so excited 29 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: to have you on. My only regret is we couldn't 30 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: be taking a walk in person. 31 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 2: Well you never know. Maybe, well I'm going to be 32 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: in Boston, so you never know that we come through. 33 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: I love it. Are you still in the South of France? 34 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm in Mexico City. I'm in Mexico 35 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: City and yeah, I mean we lived in France for 36 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: a very long time. But I love it here. I 37 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: love the city's vibrant and the best part about it 38 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: is it's close to California and my family and friends. 39 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: I love it. Congratulations on teaming up with the iconic 40 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: Diane Warren on your great new work, Big Big Love. 41 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Definitely want to circle back on that, and also congrats 42 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: on announcing the Summer Decades tour, the tickets going on 43 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: sale everywhere. So we have a lot to talk about 44 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: the short amount of time, but I'm so grateful to 45 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: talk to you. Can you can you describe the feeling 46 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: you had the first time you ever heard your music 47 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: on the radio? 48 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: Oh? Well, I remember the first time, like on a 49 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: real on a big radio station with a lips of field, 50 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: and I was in It was just my boyfriend. We 51 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: were in his beat up BW bug and we heard 52 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: it on the radio and I turned it up and 53 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: it was just you know, I still turned up, turned 54 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: up the songs. When I hear my songs, it's kind 55 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: of exciting to hear yourself on the radio. 56 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: Did you ever expect songs like Lips Are Sealed and 57 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: we got the beat would be anthems to this day? 58 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: No. I mean, it's it's funny how those early songs 59 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: of early ago, because I have a few songs in 60 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: my solo career too that sort of transcend music and 61 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 2: become had become moments in people's lives, and you know 62 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 2: where the song means much more than just the songs 63 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: to them, So yeah, I mean, who would have guessed. 64 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 2: I mean, they're great songs, but it's only once in 65 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: a while that a song comes along that gets to 66 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,119 Speaker 2: that you know, it gets to that level where where 67 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: it becomes a lot more meaningful than just the song. 68 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: When did you first realize that music would be you know, 69 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: so much of your life and your career. 70 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 2: Well, I mean I always fancied myself a singer, even 71 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: though I couldn't sing, So, I mean the only thing 72 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: I really wanted to do when I was growing up 73 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: is travel and see the world, and so I thought 74 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 2: I'll be a travel agent. And then when the Runaways 75 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: came out and you know, they were all girls, I thought, well, 76 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: that's even better way to see the world is to 77 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 2: be part of a band. So my career started out 78 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: with the Go Gos. I mean I had never I 79 00:04:56,240 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: was in and punk bands before that, but I mean properly, 80 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: I mean, and it was just like the pup punk stage. 81 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 2: If it wasn't for the punk dage, I probably wouldn't 82 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: have had the career that I have. So back then 83 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: it was you know, you could do anything you want 84 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: and be terrible and you could cool. It's the worst 85 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: the worse you were, the better you were. And you 86 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: know what I mean. So I had a choice between 87 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: playing the drums and singing, so I thought a thing. 88 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: So at that moment, that was back in nineteen seventy eight, 89 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: I would never have thought that I'd have a career 90 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: that's lasted as long as it has. 91 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: And then your solo career, my goodness, has been and 92 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: continues to be so fantastic. And I look back at 93 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: the catalog and I see some really incredible people that 94 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: you've had the opportunity to work with in your career, 95 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: such as, oh, this guy, George Harrison on leave a 96 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: light on right? 97 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: Was that? Brian Wilson, Well, Brian Wilson, I remember, feel 98 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: like Lindsay Buckingham and there's a lot of great people. Well, George, 99 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: it was just you know, I mean, just asking really, 100 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: and I you know, you never know until you ask him. 101 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: I really didn't expect him to say yes, to be honest, 102 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: but he did. And I mean, I feel very humbled 103 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: and very lucky. Is because he hasn't he doesn't really 104 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: work with anybody outside of his own needs to mean, 105 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: Robbie Shankar and those those musicians. But as far as 106 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: pop outside the Beatles, he really didn't work with anybody else. 107 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: And then you did the quintessential song called California with 108 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: the quintessential as you just mentioned, Brian Wilson. That must 109 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: have been pretty outstanding. 110 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that was like probably the most like I think, emotional, 111 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: like incredible day in my in my career, I think. 112 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: I mean, I had worked with Brian. I knew from 113 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: the three years of you know, he would come to 114 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: go go shows. He came to a few of my shows, 115 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: and I sang backup vocals on a couple of his albums, 116 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: and then you know, we had this song California, So 117 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 2: I asked him and he came to the studio and 118 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: it was I mean, because I grew up with the 119 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: Beach Boys and they're in there part of my DNA, 120 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: you know. I mean, it's just the way I grew 121 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: up in southern California. So I mean, to have sort 122 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: of come full circle and to have him singing on 123 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: my my album was like And besides that, it was 124 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 2: just so beautiful watching him work. And you know, he's, 125 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: like most art, he's going to be regarded in that 126 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: sort of way. One day, you know, I mean, people 127 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: respect him now, but I mean to experience the way 128 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: he works. It was just like it was. It was very, 129 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: very emotional. 130 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: Now you're collaborating with the iconic Diane Warren on the 131 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: new song Big Big Love. How did that collaboration come about? 132 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: Well, Diane, I know Diane, and I knew Diane for years, 133 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: and she wrote a couple of hits from My Heaven 134 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: on hers album, including I Get Weak. And I was 135 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: planning on retiring and just really slowing down, and then 136 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: my son ran into her in a coffee shop in 137 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: LA and she said, what is their mom doing? And 138 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: let's call her? So, you know, so they called me, 139 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: and she goes come to the studio because I had 140 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: hits for you. And I really wasn't sure that I 141 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 2: wanted to open up that door, because you know, it's 142 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: a big commitment. So I thought, okay, well, as a courtesy, 143 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 2: I'll go to the studio and see what she's thinking. 144 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: And then she played the songs and I was completely 145 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: blown away and really just like, well, I'm not I'd 146 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: be stupid to say no, and I'm obviously not meant 147 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 2: to retire yet, so I'm going to record these songs 148 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 2: and That's why the epist called kismet, because it was 149 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: always it was just weird how the whole thing came 150 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: about it. It was kind of magical and by chance that 151 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: this all happens. 152 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: And now you also go back to the joy of 153 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: playing live in front of people with the Decade tour. 154 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: How joyous is it being in front of people on 155 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: this upcoming tour? Well, I just. 156 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: It's fun for me. I love I love doing live shows. 157 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: I just came up a big tour in the UK 158 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: and it was I mean, I love it. I mean 159 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: I don't like to slog it out for too long 160 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: because there's a lot of physicality and but you know, 161 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: for two weeks at a time, it's it's a lot 162 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: of fun for me. So yeah, I mean I love it. 163 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: And I haven't done anything in the States for a 164 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: long time. I'm looking forward to this. 165 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: I also want to commend you for your amazing work 166 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: with the Animal People Alliance. Can you talk about that 167 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: important work you do? 168 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well I co founded this my organization, Animal 169 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: People Alliance a friend of mine and I did it. 170 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 2: He works in the engine of trafficking in Calcutta and 171 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: he said there's lack of Animal Services, Do you want 172 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 2: to do something? And I said sure. So that was 173 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: in two thousand and fourteen and we sort of found 174 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: our way. And nine years, eight and a half years 175 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: later and thirty thousand animals later, we've treated you know, 176 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: we've created employment for people who might have difficulty getting 177 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: a job, like lower caste people or people with disabilities. 178 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 2: And we've expanded into northern Thailand near me and mar 179 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: where we work a lot of a lot with stateless 180 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: people who would have a hard time getting a job 181 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: because of lack of identification. So we do a huge 182 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: rabies and staying and utering drives and both places, and 183 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: it's been very successful and I'm really really proud of it. 184 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: And the great thing about it is I'm not like, 185 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 2: you know, Miss White Savior, you know, coming along to 186 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: save the day. Is that they're actually on the ground 187 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: doing it themselves. So it's really been kind of an amazing, 188 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: amazing thing. And my wishes to expand uh here in 189 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 2: Mexico and have I've always wanted to have a donkey sanctuary, 190 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: So that's kind of what I'm sure ing on at 191 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: the moment is doing that. 192 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: Bless you for doing that work. Congratulations on big, big love, 193 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: and thank you for being on and so the joy 194 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: that certainly you've given me and so many others with 195 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 1: all of your music. Thank you so. 196 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: Much for Linda, Thank you so much and have a 197 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: great day. 198 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk with Buzznight is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, 199 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.