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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: A Elizabeth Saren oh Man.

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Speaker 3: So good to see you.

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Speaker 4: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 2: I got a question why you're here? Do you know

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Speaker 2: what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 4: I do? Okay, I have a mashup for you. Don't

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Speaker 4: get mad. Blame Alana from Instagram.

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Speaker 2: He runs such a good run. He started strong and

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Speaker 2: she's right into.

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Speaker 4: The Hey, so listen. This exciting collaboration brings together two

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Speaker 4: names that stand for grit, reliability and performance under pressure.

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Speaker 4: Now you know that cal Rawley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the baseball Yeah, he's been like sixty home runs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a he's a good, big.

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Speaker 2: Sabnth person to do sixty home runs in a season.

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Speaker 4: He was the first catcher to win the home run Derby.

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Speaker 4: Oh look at him, Look at look at little boy.

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Speaker 4: Anyway he is he has a collab.

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Speaker 2: Is it about his dumper?

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Speaker 4: It is?

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Speaker 3: Is it? Really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Let me read you the first reach the beginning of

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Speaker 4: this press release. Honeybucket, a leader in portable sanitation services,

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Speaker 4: is proud to announce a new partnership with Seattle's powerhouse

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Speaker 4: catcher and fan favorite all star Cal Rawley, affectionately known

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Speaker 4: as big dumper. So you know what honeybucket isside? Uh, no,

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Speaker 4: the or the honeybucketyeah.

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Speaker 2: Honeywagon honey bucket.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so, uh they're collaborating, you know, whether it's

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Speaker 4: behind the plate or behind the scenes at construction sites,

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Speaker 4: community events, and stadiums. Both Raleigh and Honeybuckets share one mission,

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Speaker 4: deliver when it counts. What is this collab? Right? How

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Speaker 4: does one collab.

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Speaker 2: Finally got one? I'm curious about all right.

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Speaker 4: As part of the partnership, fans can expect appearances. Just

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Speaker 4: you go to he shows, you know, a college football game,

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Speaker 4: and there's porta potties and you open and he pops out.

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Speaker 2: It's like, do you want to use the dumper?

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Speaker 4: Did you want to talk to the dump pilet? He?

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Speaker 4: I was going to say some horrible design that was

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Speaker 4: like delight on my face. Anyway, Appearances, exclusive content, and

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Speaker 4: promotional campaigns all centered around changing expectations for what people

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Speaker 4: can expect from portable restrooms.

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Speaker 2: So curious that sentence. Well, here's here's the thing people

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Speaker 2: can expect from.

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Speaker 4: This announced in July, and they're like, oh, we'll have

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Speaker 4: more for you later. They have merch so you can

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Speaker 4: get like shirts, baby onesies and sweatshirts with It's this

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Speaker 4: picture we'll put it on Instagram of him coming out

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Speaker 4: of a port potty with giving the thumbs up.

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Speaker 2: The thumbs up. I thought he had a drink in

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Speaker 2: his hands.

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Speaker 4: No, he's got his thumbs up. Like I did it, Mom,

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Speaker 4: I wiped myself and you're like, I do it myself, sweetie.

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Speaker 4: Did you wash your hands? No, go back and wash

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Speaker 4: your hands. So they have that. They also you can

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Speaker 4: get like a jersey, a baseball jersey that says honeybucket

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Speaker 4: on the front.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm a big dumper on the dumper on.

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Speaker 4: The back, which I think you need.

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Speaker 2: I think we both need. And yeah, I do want

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Speaker 2: a sticker for my hard hat.

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Speaker 4: Okay, honey dumper, dumper, the honey honey bucket. That's big dumper. Okay,

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Speaker 4: well yeah, let's work on that. Anyway. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: You did it, Elizabeth. You finally came up with a mashup.

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Speaker 2: But I actually enjoyed. I felt.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not going to take credit because in the

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Speaker 4: beginning I was shifting blame to Alana on Instagram. But

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Speaker 4: I'm going to now I'm going to give her the credit,

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Speaker 4: not the blame.

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Speaker 2: That was beautiful job girl. Well, hey, sit back down,

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Speaker 2: do you I got a.

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Speaker 4: Question for you? Also, it's done for today.

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Speaker 2: I got something for you that's ridiculous. Do you want

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Speaker 2: to hear about it? I get okay, So imagine like

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Speaker 2: robbing a casino.

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Speaker 4: I could see myself doing that, because basic.

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Speaker 2: You want to be a real life Danny Ocean. Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: mostly because you have a hard time separating fact from

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Speaker 2: fiction and movies from the real world.

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Speaker 4: This is this is me. You're talking about me.

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Speaker 3: You love this.

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Speaker 2: This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers, heists,

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Speaker 2: and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free and

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent what one hundred percent? What? One hundred

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Speaker 2: percent ridiculous?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: I came in late Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: I have a story today for you about a casino heist.

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Speaker 2: I love it right fun. Yeah, it's like, hey, no harm,

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Speaker 2: no foul, I'm just robbing this place thing exactly. Rob's

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Speaker 2: Retirees twenty four.

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Speaker 4: And it used to be that you'd be robbing the mob,

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Speaker 4: but now you're robbing corporations my favorite thing.

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Speaker 2: Totally, and the mob is now corporations merge together. As

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Speaker 2: we've seen time and time again, the crimers who pull

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Speaker 2: off casino robberies were often inspired by movies. So that's

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Speaker 2: like a lot of the robberies we see people who

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Speaker 2: do bank jobs are inspired by the movies. Well, this one,

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Speaker 2: they didn't go with a movie by Michael Mann and

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Speaker 2: his like graduate level program of how to become a criminal. Instead,

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Speaker 2: they went with something they were inspired by George Clooney

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Speaker 2: and Brad Pitt and is Always Eating in the Ocean's

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Speaker 2: Eleven's movies. Now, before we get into this, though, I

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Speaker 2: need to go over a little backstory. Okay, quick question.

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Speaker 4: I love backstory. PS.

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Speaker 2: I know you do, That's why I did it. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for you. Quick question. Have you ever heard of

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Speaker 2: the Suboba Casinoba? It sounds like a character from Star Wars,

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Speaker 2: like Suburbo Casino, but it sounds.

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Speaker 4: Like one of those app video games. Yeah, total that

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Speaker 4: We would read an ad for that, like you win, like.

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Speaker 2: Like stars and.

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Speaker 4: Fts of Boba Tea. That's all you in, but it

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Speaker 4: costs you money somehow you're paying for It's not a casino,

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Speaker 4: but it's called casino. And we read these ads and

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Speaker 4: we're happy to do. So everybody, I just need to say,

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Speaker 4: are they listening? They were so happy?

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Speaker 2: So Boba Casino. It's a real place. It's located here

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Speaker 2: in California. Boba so Boba Casino. It's rocated Riverside County. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you may be thinking, no, wait a minute, is there?

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Speaker 2: So how is there a casino in Riverside County when

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Speaker 2: casino style gambling isn't legal in California?

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Speaker 4: Right? It is?

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Speaker 2: But I know you know this. Here in California, while

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Speaker 2: casino gambling is illegal, we do have Indian casinos. We

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Speaker 2: do which are legal. Why because they're on in Indian reservation.

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Speaker 2: They got their own rules and laws because of that,

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Speaker 2: which is why down in Riverside County, where they gave

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Speaker 2: a large amount of land to reservations, there are number

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Speaker 2: of Indian gaming casinos. Because I know you're curious, list,

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Speaker 2: I am so curious, and you have many questions. I

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Speaker 2: have so many, I have many answers.

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Speaker 4: Awesome.

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Speaker 2: Well, like, for instance, I went and I looked up

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Speaker 2: how many Indian reservations there are in Riverside County because

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Speaker 2: I remember, I'm like, what, there's like this casino and

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Speaker 2: that casino I looked it up for you because I

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Speaker 2: didn't want to be like, how many are there's there?

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Speaker 4: I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: So there's the Agua Caliente Casino Resort SPA in Rancho Mirage, right,

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Speaker 2: and then there's the Spa Resort casino and Palm Springs.

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Speaker 2: Those are both casinos from the Agua Caliente Band of

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Speaker 2: Coahuila Indians of the Agua Caliente Indian Reservation. Yes, there's

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Speaker 2: also the Augustine Casino and Coachella. That's a casina that

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Speaker 2: belongs to the Augustine Band of Coahuila Indians of the

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Speaker 2: Augustine Reservation. Then there's a Spotlight twenty nine casino that's

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Speaker 2: also in Coachella, which belongs to the twenty nine Palms

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Speaker 2: Band of Mission Indians of California. Then there's the Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Springs Resort casino nearby Indio, which belongs to the Cabazon

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Speaker 2: Band of Mission Indians. Of course, we can't leave out

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Speaker 2: the Big Dog Marongo Casino resort and SPA in Cabazon

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Speaker 2: before the Morongo Band of Mission Indians. And then the

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Speaker 2: other Big Dog Pachanga Resort at casino in Temecula. That

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Speaker 2: one belongs to the Pachanga Band of Luisino Mission Indians

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Speaker 2: at the Pachanga Reservation. And then there's also the Kauela

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Speaker 2: Casino in Aza, which belongs to the Quila Band of Indians.

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Speaker 2: And then lastly there's sub Boba Casino in San Jacinto

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Speaker 2: which belongs to the sub Boba Land of Yes of

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Speaker 2: Luisino Indians. That's the spot I want to tell you

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Speaker 2: about today.

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Speaker 4: Got it?

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Speaker 2: Now? You may be thinking that is there that's a

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Speaker 2: lot of casinos in one county. Sure, the Riverside Panty

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Speaker 2: California Gambling Control Commission, I look this up, as of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, there are seventy six Indian casinos and

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Speaker 2: five mini casinos in the state of California, and they

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Speaker 2: are owned by seventy three of the states one hundred

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Speaker 2: and nine tribes.

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Speaker 4: Seventy six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and in case you're also wondering of those seventy

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Speaker 2: ones who don't own casinos, they have a revenue sharing program.

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Speaker 2: So all one hundred and nine tribes benefit from the

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Speaker 2: seventy three Indians casinos in five mini casinos. Guess how

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm terrified to know.

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Speaker 2: Nine billion dollars billion with a B. Yes, there's nothing

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Speaker 2: Today's stories about some brash crimers got the idea we

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Speaker 2: just get our hands on the piece of those sweet,

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Speaker 2: sweet billions. Oh no, right, So back to the Saboba Casino.

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Speaker 2: Since are you familiar with the Suboba casino at all?

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Speaker 4: Never heard of it?

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Speaker 2: Let me familiarize you up here the Cash Creek. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's up here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, up here, that's one I'm from. And there's one

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Speaker 2: San Pablo, Yeah, San Pablo.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a huge chunk out of Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Well some of them, also, you'll see, are just card rooms,

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Speaker 2: but they're called casinos. Okay, I'll bring that later.

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Speaker 4: They don't have sports book.

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Speaker 2: There don't have sports book. I don't know. The card

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Speaker 2: rooms don't have sports book. And they usually don't have

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Speaker 2: table games. It's it's like or sorry. Slot machines have

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Speaker 2: limited table games. According to the web about Suboba Casino Resort,

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Speaker 2: it quote offers spectacular views of the Santa Cinto Mountains

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Speaker 2: and is located just outside the city of the Santa

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Speaker 2: Cinto and hemet hemmet was the last time you were

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Speaker 2: in hemt Elizabeth? How about dogs? How about Santa Sinta.

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Speaker 2: I have you've been down there recently? Just eighty five

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Speaker 2: miles east of LA for those I don't know, but yeah.

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Speaker 4: I haven't been down there in a long time, but

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Speaker 4: you know, I know people there.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking. I thought, Yeah, now, this

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Speaker 2: property that I'm describing, the Suboba Casino, is four hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy four square foot property.

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Speaker 4: I do need to mention though, like if you're not

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Speaker 4: there's like very little vegetation.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, it's it's desert. It's higher desert, dry mountains.

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Speaker 2: Like just it's not that far. I mean it looks

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for California, mileage eighty five miles isn't a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: It doesn't resemble Los Angeles writ large in any.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. Like nothing. It is the complete

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Speaker 2: desert like you would see in a Warner Brothers cartoon. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: now it's this property situated on over two hundred acres, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: and the resort features quote a first class casino, a hotel,

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Speaker 4: Oh, which is exactly what you want in the desert.

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Speaker 4: Balls have plenty of water here.

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Speaker 2: Now, I know you don't golf, but it is still fun,

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Speaker 2: but if you're wondering what else is there to do?

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Speaker 2: Is there got answers for you, Elizabeth? At this sixth

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Speaker 2: twenty one hundred slots and numerous table games, the Boba

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Speaker 2: Casino Resort has more than foury six hundred nineteen jackpot winners.

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Speaker 4: Now do they have like a cocktail round called the

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Speaker 4: So my brother always says it in like an Eastern

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Speaker 2: Tell me you have a casino is loose sluts? That's

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like if you're not if you're not

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Speaker 2: When you're ready for a break from the gaming tables

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Speaker 4: Water does have a lazy river that you can like

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Speaker 4: Or I love a lazy river except for people pee

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Speaker 2: What the lazy rivers?

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Speaker 2: I assume people pae in any large body of water, right,

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Speaker 4: Don't mind like the pee away whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, got a movement, but like the ur, it's not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But the lazy river.

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Speaker 2: You're just down river of the warm urinecoming at you.

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying? A leaky body thing today?

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Speaker 4: So about the leaky body today?

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Speaker 2: Well, if you wanted to today relax in one of

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Speaker 2: the hotel suites, we offer breathtaking views of the Santacento Valley.

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Speaker 2: You like mountains, Elizabeth, we talked about this dry, dusty,

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Speaker 4: That's my favorite is going to the mountains.

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Speaker 2: You know, skip the mountains. What about the hotel suites?

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Speaker 4: Could you please tell me about.

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Speaker 2: The bang up question? I'm so happy you asked me.

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Speaker 2: According to this resort's website, which I did look up,

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Speaker 2: each suite offers a taste of luxury with a wet bar,

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Speaker 2: Once again, selling water, they're really pushing water. I know

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Speaker 2: it's the desert, but we got plenty of water.

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Speaker 4: Please tell me they don't have the doors in the hotels,

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Speaker 2: For the bathroom, for the bathroom, I don't know the.

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Speaker 4: Door you don't get to close the door.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, and there's like all that air going.

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Speaker 4: Around the side. You're just sliding everything that's going on.

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Speaker 2: I want a bathroom door, like a Mercedes car door,

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Speaker 2: like it's want to be in. Yeah, I don't hear

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Speaker 4: I'm alone in the hotel room.

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Speaker 2: Of course. That's what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 4: In a little capsule.

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Speaker 2: So uh oh yeah, So okay, since you're staying open

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Speaker 4: Any of that little suspicious right, but.

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Speaker 2: Quote, after a long night of play in the casino,

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Speaker 2: you can spend the day by the hotel pool, which

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Speaker 2: includes poolside bar and grill. And for added convenience, see.

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Speaker 4: They swim up bars also once.

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Speaker 2: Again pushing water.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of peeing, you know. You see I've

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Speaker 2: Yeah they probably do.

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, I love this weekend golf.

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Speaker 2: I've got loose slots.

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Speaker 4: I'm really enjoying this Suboba casino. Ridiculous crime mash Well.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, I also did check the reviews because

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Speaker 2: I wonder. I didn't want them to just tell me.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear what someone who's been there. It's

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Speaker 2: like a little more honest. So on trip Advisor I

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Speaker 2: found users CJ eleven as in Land Air or c J.

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Speaker 3: So yeah.

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Speaker 2: They wrote a review back in August of twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: so rather recent but not totally recent. And they're local.

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Speaker 2: They're from Riverside, and I made sure that they weren't

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Speaker 2: like somebody who was faking it, like worked for the casino.

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Speaker 2: They have fifty six contributions seventy eight helpful votes. They

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Speaker 2: are a trip Advisor power user Elizabeth I love I

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Speaker 2: don't think this is funny, but anyway, CJ. They wrote

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Speaker 2: a review with the title I loved it, but totally

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Speaker 4: You're like, I love my pupil stylist.

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Speaker 2: Story goes in two directions right off the bat, so

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Speaker 2: they commented quote this casino hotel was great. I got

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Speaker 2: early check in. The room was nice. I don't know

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Speaker 2: the food was good and reasonable. Everything was clean, the

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Speaker 2: slots were loose. I won four hundred dollars housekeeping. The

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where's the dumper?

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Speaker 2: So well, back to CJ eleven. They also wrote that

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Speaker 2: here's where I had a few problems. Number one was

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Speaker 2: the pool. Now, this pool is beautiful and spacious, and

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Speaker 2: it has a bar and a grill. Problem was the kids.

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Speaker 2: Why are kids in an adult pool in a casino.

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Speaker 2: They were loud and squirting water guns at each other,

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Speaker 2: and when I went to the other side of the pool,

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Speaker 2: but usually I was the cave up the square gun.

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Speaker 2: But I've been there, I were late CJ eleven. She

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Speaker 2: also had complaints about the hotel security guard. They asked

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Speaker 2: the couple to show their room keys despite having pool wristbands,

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Speaker 2: and this really bothered CJ eleven. They reviewed it as quote,

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Speaker 2: what the hell I paid good money to stay there,

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Speaker 2: and that's how we get treated. There was an older

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure old lady should get hassled to is

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Speaker 2: really the argument I go for my review, but what

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Speaker 2: do I know? I don't write Cassina reviews anyway. CJ

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Speaker 2: eleven's final complaint was about the pool bar and how

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Speaker 2: their husband purchased four canned drinks but they only received two. Right,

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Speaker 2: So don't worry, Elizabeth. They got it all started at

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Speaker 2: CJ eleven report in the morning, like Eduardo was very

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Speaker 2: kind and made sure we were not charged. Now, for me,

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Speaker 2: the key point to this review is how the security

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Speaker 2: they had room case more so than we got our

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Speaker 2: bud lights and reimbursed. So but that's the whole point

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Speaker 2: the security guard, because that brings us to the crimers

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Speaker 2: of today, because those were the same security guards that

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Speaker 2: the heistman would take advantage of when they decided to

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Speaker 2: rob this joint. Oh, I mean, like when these folks

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Speaker 4: That's the big dogs me see your.

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Speaker 2: Wrist key or whatever whatever that is. Let's take a

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Speaker 2: little break, Elizabeth, and after these pipe on hot advertisements

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Speaker 2: fresh out of the oven, we'll get to the heist. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we're back, Elizabeth. Yeah, you're finally ready to get to

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Speaker 2: this casino heist.

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Speaker 4: Not really, I'd like to hear more.

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, I need to introduce you to a

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Speaker 2: twenty five year old Rolando Ramos aka the mastermind.

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Speaker 4: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Rolando Ramos had worked at the casino for about two years.

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Speaker 2: He was responsible for maintaining the casino resorts video surveillance cameras,

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Speaker 4: He was the eyes of SBS.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Now, he knew where all the blind spots were,

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Speaker 2: obviously because he kne where the cameras where he fixed him.

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Speaker 2: And then there was his partner in crime, literally twenty

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Speaker 2: three year old Eric Aguilera. He was a security guard

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Speaker 4: God bless.

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Speaker 2: Now, between the two of them, they had an exhaustive

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Speaker 2: understanding of all the inner workings of this place. Right,

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Speaker 2: they know how this casino operates, and that would be key, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they know how to beat themselves. They're trying

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Speaker 2: to stop this exact thing all day long. So all

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Speaker 2: day long they're practicing. How could I rob this place? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so mine wanders totally.

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Speaker 2: It's a nice little hobby daydream about like if I

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Speaker 2: was robbing me, Yeah, I beat me, I'll admit.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I sit here and I think, like, how would

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Speaker 4: I break into Zern's car when he's not paying attention?

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Speaker 4: How would I pickpocket Dave? And then it's like all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden that the commercials are on.

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Speaker 2: What open crap?

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Speaker 4: I have no idea what I just told me?

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Speaker 2: So you've met now met the our robbers or crimers

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now, Rolando was a local from Hemmett. He seems he

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Speaker 2: had some personal reasons for choosing to pull this heist.

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Speaker 2: You see Elizabeth Rolando had declared bankruptcy the year prior. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was due to personal loans and a car loan

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Speaker 2: that was delinquent. A bunch of people were after him

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Speaker 2: for loans. Yeah, he also has his one friend described

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Speaker 2: it he was despondent about a recent breakup with his girlfriend.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, he rob the bank about it? A Robert

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Speaker 2: Corsino big you know, like go take someone else's stuff,

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Speaker 2: you lost something, take something.

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Speaker 4: Do a couple like vague postings on Facebook.

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Speaker 2: Of course you gotta let people know, you know, like emo.

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Speaker 4: Stuff and you know, get in your feels and then

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Speaker 2: Well, he got his friend, Eric Aguilera, his work friend,

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Speaker 2: I think, who was the younger of the pair of

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Speaker 2: the twenty three year old. He's also from a nearby hemmet.

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00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 2: Did he get dumped too, No, No, he had a girlfriend,

440
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 2: living girlfriend. They had two children together. He had a

441
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 2: much more stable situation, so he didn't have the same

442
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 2: personal reasons to pull off the casino heist.

443
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 4: He had personal reasons to not.

444
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he did. Maybe children. The living girlfriend was like,

445
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: you know, we need to get a bigger place, and

446
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 2: he's like, I'll rob my work. I don't know. These

447
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 2: diapers are expensive.

448
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 4: Being the kid is like nine months old, but can

449
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 4: suddenly speak and in the middle of the night climbs

450
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 4: into the bed and Eric he's like, no, I'm dad. Nopes, Eric,

451
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 4: he robbed the casino.

452
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to I'm a prodigy for the I

453
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 2: feel and I'm gonna need some expensive musical guys.

454
00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 4: We're glowing. Oh, I like this had long nails.

455
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 2: Does he do any like thing dancing, climb on.

456
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 4: The ceiling, and he went back to his crib and

457
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 4: was normal, you're so careful, I was there. It happened.

458
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 2: So for weeks, possibly months, this pair they cased this joint.

459
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,199
Speaker 2: And when I say the joint, I mean the casino

460
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 2: where they worked.

461
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 4: They just went to work.

462
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,639
Speaker 2: Because eventually they're satisfied they know how to rob the place,

463
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: how to beat their own system, so they pick a

464
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 2: day for their robbery, August second, two thousand and seven.

465
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: The plan is simple, Elizabeth. The two men would drive

466
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: to work like they did most days. Then they take

467
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 2: Rolando's Ford Mustang. Only Aguilera would be the one driving,

468
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 2: and since you know he was gonna be the getaway driver,

469
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 2: he would drive and then he would drop off Orlando

470
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 2: at the casino for work, and then he'd drive around

471
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: the surrounding neighborhood around the casino until he got like

472
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: a text from Ramos like hey man, I'm done, pick

473
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 2: me up. I robbed the place. So come August second,

474
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 2: they'd exactly what they do. They're like, let's put the

475
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: plan into action. Fateful day, Aguile drops off Orlando Ramos

476
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 2: at work. Then he drives off nervously waits for that

477
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 2: text to come in as he's circling the casino in

478
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: a Ford Mustang at like four in the morning.

479
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 4: Oh not suspicious.

480
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still dark outside, right. So at the casino,

481
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 2: Orlando Ramos, he walks in like he does most other

482
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: mornings for the last two years, right, just like he's

483
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: worked there. He shows up wearing his uniform. He's got

484
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 2: his Cascino Resort ID badge. He's wearing his trusty tool

485
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 2: belt because you know, he fixed his cameras like screwdriver, ratchet, bratchet,

486
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: all the whole bit, right, except for this day, he'd

487
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 2: shut up to work, unlike the last two years. Within

488
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 2: his tool belt, he's concealed a handgun, rolls of duct tape,

489
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 2: and a container of pepper spray. Oh yeah, spicy, that's

490
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 2: very So. Once he's on the property, Rolando, he walks

491
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: over to the security trailer, which you normally we do.

492
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 2: Once again, now we're like four fifteen in the morning,

493
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: and the security trailer's just one man, the security manager,

494
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: the boss. Right, he's like doing the overnight shift. Orlando

495
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: greets him. They you know, they GiB a jab, but

496
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 2: do just the morning chit chat and then Rolando's like,

497
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: hey man, talks to the security manager, asked him to

498
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: go to the back room with him. I need to

499
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: like show you something like I don't know what.

500
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: Do you got a second?

501
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: So he's no, The manager like again, thinking nothing of it.

502
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: He goes right. The security manager follows his surveillance tech

503
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: and once they're in the back room, Orlando's like, hey man,

504
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: like look over there. Whatever. He pulls out his pepper

505
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 2: spray and he gives his boss a blast of pepper

506
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 2: stray straight to the doma, right to the face.

507
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,160
Speaker 4: The boss was like, I'm gonna I'll fine, I'll look

508
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 4: at your boil again and I'll tell you if it's bigger. Instead,

509
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 4: he gets a face full of peppers once again.

510
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: The leaky body's going on. So now that his boss

511
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 2: is hacking and coughing and choking on pepper spray, Orlando

512
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 2: knocks him down and then he like whips out the

513
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 2: duct tape and he binds his security manager's hands and

514
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 2: feet and he leaves his boss there. Right, He's like

515
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 2: step one. Then he goes back to like the main

516
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: part of the security trailer where there's now two security

517
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: guards sitting there, and at this point. I think he

518
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 2: anticipated them, like it's like a time, like a shift change, right.

519
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: So this point, Orlando, he pulls out his handgun. He

520
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: shows it to the security guards, like what do you

521
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,919
Speaker 2: guys think? And then he points at him. There's like,

522
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: no one sees this coming, right, He's got the drop

523
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: on them. So now they're facing a gun at four

524
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: in the morning. They're like, man, is this coming to work?

525
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,199
Speaker 2: So they're all they do is ordered, right, So he

526
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 2: walks them into the back room with the security manager's

527
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: already bound. He's like, you see that, I want you

528
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: guys like that, So he duck takes them. Right now,

529
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 2: he's got the two security guards and his boss all

530
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: duct tape bound up in this little back room. So

531
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,400
Speaker 2: then this is where the embarrassing part is. Elizabeth, the handgun.

532
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 2: It wasn't real. He pulls this all off with a

533
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: bb gun. Oh yeah, total BB.

534
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 4: Gun paint over the orange tip.

535
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: Well, they don't all have onge steps, but I think

536
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: that they just didn't like, you know, look, maybe the

537
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 2: end they thoughts with a twenty two he's using like a.

538
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 4: Little squirrel hunting in the morning, That's.

539
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: What I was saying. Yeah, you're like, oh, it looks

540
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 2: like a gun. Enough like a gun, I'm gonna act

541
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: like it's what I.

542
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: Like is that he held one at baby gun point

543
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 4: and duct tape the other, and then one at Beaty

544
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 4: gun point. Didn't it like take a close look at

545
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 4: be like what in the world?

546
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: Totally in house. I was wondering, how are they getting

547
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: all this tape down? Like you tape him and then

548
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 2: I'll tape you. So at this point we got the security.

549
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 4: It's not worth the risk if you're you're like whatever.

550
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: We all have a story from my wife when I

551
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: get home. So the security professionals right who I hoped

552
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: would know the difference between a real firearm and a

553
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: kid's BB gun, but whatever. Skipping past that, at this

554
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: point we got the security manager, two guards bound. So

555
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 2: Rambos moves on to step three. He attempts to destroy

556
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: some surveillance equipment. Okay, according to the police reports and

557
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: local news that I read, he did not destroy the

558
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: recording equipment. Yeah you think, like that's what he does.

559
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: He should be able to know, like I take the screwdriver,

560
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:54,479
Speaker 2: I put it right through here.

561
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 4: Usable you've been thinking about it at work all day

562
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: for weeks.

563
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: He has to go to multiple rooms where there's surveillance

564
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: equipment like a recording part right, and apparently he doesn't

565
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 2: get it all anyway. After he partially destroys the surveillance equipment,

566
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: he moves on to step what four.

567
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: Now, Well, although, I mean, I guess they've seen him,

568
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 4: so he has witnesses. I was gonna say, otherwise he

569
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: could make it look like it wasn't an inside job. Yeah,

570
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 4: that would be tied up his coworkers. So they're like.

571
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: Showing up to work. Yeahah. So he contacts someone now

572
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 2: from the main casino security, like in the building. He

573
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 2: asked them to meet him at the vault. He's like, hey, man,

574
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 2: I gotta I need to repair some of the security

575
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 2: cameras in the vault. And they're like, okay, they're malfunctioning.

576
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: Like that's fine, man, I'll meet you over there. It's

577
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 2: not suspicious at all, because it's very normal. So they

578
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 2: make a plan to meet and did they do? They

579
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: meet Orlando at the vault two security guards. Elizabeth unarmed

580
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: both of them, so they opened the secure doors that

581
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: let him in. And once they step inside the vault,

582
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: they're not alone. There's five employees inside. Five This is

583
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like you know, Stanley Kubrick's the killing.

584
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: It's like, what do I do with these guys?

585
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 4: What are they doing? Is just hanging out?

586
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: They're busy counting money, the take from the day before.

587
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: So they got these five money counters in.

588
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 4: There, right, God, think of that job. It's four in

589
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 4: the morning, You're in a closed vault counting.

590
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: Had been for hours. Yeah, yeah, for hours.

591
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 4: You haven't let you out weeks.

592
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 2: Orlando doesn't waste any time. He's got like these seven

593
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: people now five in there and two he brought. So

594
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: he reaches into his toolbolt and he brandishes the firearm,

595
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 2: I mean his BB gun. Yeah, and again fools everyone, right,

596
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 2: two security guards who let him in there, the unarmed

597
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: guys as soon as they see this fire and they're like, okay,

598
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: let's do whatever. He says, I'll duct tape you, you

599
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: duct tate me.

600
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 4: You know what if he spray painted it hot pink

601
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 4: and said it was one of those Susan g Coman

602
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 4: Brandon Breast answer his head and handguns, haven't you seen that?

603
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 2: I'm sure they exist? But anybody think like this is

604
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: my wife's gun.

605
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 4: But yeah, cover story. So it doesn't look like a

606
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: regular gun because it's a.

607
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 2: Suit more like a toy. I don't think they.

608
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 4: Mean this is October already, like it looks like a toy,

609
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: but it's not. It's Susan g Coman walk for the cure.

610
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 4: You guys, now sit down and tape each other.

611
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: That's that's getty strong.

612
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 4: This is how you think for This is why I

613
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: would be a really good groop sideways.

614
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: And other people are thinking straight on.

615
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 4: I like that human nature. I observe it.

616
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: Promos at this point has everyone lined up against the wall.

617
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: They comply with whatever he says. And his last parts

618
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: key because you know he doesn't want anyone to get

619
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: a good look at his non susan ja comen gun.

620
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: So because they if they realize they're not in danger.

621
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: There's seven of them, right, there's one of them in

622
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: a locked room. They can totally take it.

623
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 4: They can all make eye contact and raise their let's roll.

624
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: That's good.

625
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 2: They could be so easy to overpower them. Anyways, At

626
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: this point, Ramos like stand in the corner facing the wall,

627
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: and Susan j Comb is gonna get live. So if

628
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: they do it right, they duct tape each other or whatever.

629
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: I don't know how it works out. He's got all

630
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: seven people bound with duct tape, and now at this

631
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: point he gets to work on the heist part step five.

632
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 4: But before they were all bound up, he made them

633
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: all do brest self exams. Probably meant too, because it happens, Darren.

634
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, if you've got breast and everybody, you know,

635
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: every and everyone else has the tissue.

636
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: Of course, it's just you know, that's common sense.

637
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: I like this. Well, waits, let's spread some more awareness exactly.

638
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: He drops a Duffle bag at this point on the floor,

639
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 2: starts to stuff it with cash from the casino's take

640
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: of the last day or whatever. He grabs about one

641
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: point five million in both loose bills and bound stacks

642
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: of cash.

643
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: No, dang, one point five million, yeah.

644
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: One point five million. Then he coolly has that stuff

645
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: duffle bag up on his shoulder and he now he

646
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: makes his escape step six. He walks out of the vault,

647
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: retraces his steps back to the security door that he'd

648
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: been let through. Then with that, now that puts him

649
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: back on the casino floor. So now he's got a

650
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: bag of one point five mili on his shoulder, and

651
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: he's wearing his normal outfit, no mask, right because remember

652
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: there's plenty of surveillance recordings, regardless of the cameras. His

653
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: duffel bag, you know, on his shoulder. He makes his

654
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: way through the casino. I think at this point it's

655
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: like maybe four forty five in the morning, okay, And

656
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: so there aren't a ton of gamblers on the floors'd right,

657
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: I mean there's there's gonna be some because there's always

658
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: some cameras on.

659
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 4: The if it was a weekend or a weekday.

660
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: I believe it was a Thursday Friday morning, Thursday night Friday.

661
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not a h So no one will.

662
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 2: Look twice at himough, because he's wearing his casino uniform,

663
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: even as the id bad. He's got a tool belt

664
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: with the baby gun in it, not pink stuff. No

665
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: one's looking twice. He looks like a workman. He blends

666
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: into the background, so it's safe, you know, it is

667
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: presumed anonymity. He walks through the casino and uses an

668
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: emergency door exits the building, one that won't set off

669
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: an alarm. Right, once he's outside, he's like, he texts

670
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: y Aguilera, who Now he's got the waiting go text right,

671
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: so he stops circling the neighborhood.

672
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 4: I wonder if he had one of those Mustangs with

673
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: like the throaty engine. That's what I hi laying there

674
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 4: like someone is like it wakes him up, and they're

675
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: like trying to fall back asleep, and then exactly you.

676
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: Can imagine also something like pain in the neck. Policeman

677
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: is up early and he sees the same Ford Mustang

678
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 2: come around a few times. It wouldn't be terrible if

679
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 2: their whole plan comes down to just the fact they

680
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: get pulled over by some suspicious cop.

681
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, he's doing the probable cause.

682
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 2: Now I think it was probably one of those tiny

683
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: Ford Mustangs, and the cops the new ones, but they

684
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: don't have quite the same rumble. It just looks like

685
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: the modern fuel efficiency standards. Yeah, at this point, I'll

686
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: lar pulls up the casino. He meets Rolando, who's like

687
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: waiting outside the casino with the one point five mil,

688
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: just waiting like this has to be like the best

689
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: site for him. Right, he sees his own Ford Mustang

690
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: pull up behind the wheel. They've almost gotten away with it.

691
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: Now they just need to step seven, which is getting

692
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: the goddamn car. So he does that, steps inside the

693
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: car rumbles are tinely rumbles back to life, and they

694
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: pull away from the casino. Right at this point, Ford

695
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: Mustang disappears into like I don't know, the purple light

696
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: of the coming dawn, beautiful. Just like that, They've done it, Elizabeth.

697
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: They've robbed their workplace perfectly. There's one obviously, the one

698
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: huge glaring problem with their plan. And I use that

699
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: term loosely their plan, but you did already point this out.

700
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: They don't wear masks to their job and then they

701
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: rob everybody, right like they got like what like ten

702
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: witnesses at this point.

703
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: Well like at one point they're in the vault tied

704
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 4: up and they look at they look at him, They

705
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 4: look at the employee of the Rolando man three months

706
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 4: ago sign on the wall, and then go back and forth.

707
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 2: Of money that is him Rolando. So I mean they

708
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 2: might as well have left like a greeting card for

709
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: the police.

710
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 4: Like you met their hands and they go to the

711
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: window and leave really perfect prints.

712
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: So in the bank heist business, I think we call

713
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 2: this a huge blunder, Reno.

714
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: That is the technical term. I mean zaren, don't use

715
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: shop talk, put it in plan.

716
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, old Mistako. So they're now former co workers,

717
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: free themselves from the duct tape, right, and once they

718
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: immediately phone the cops. The cops have nothing to do

719
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: out there and like outside of Santa Sinto and Hemmet,

720
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: So it takes some five minutes to respond to the call.

721
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: The Riverside Sheriff's deputies all arrive at like five point

722
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: fifteen in the morning, and by then, the pair of

723
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: the heisman they're long gone though, right. These two amateurs, though,

724
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: have left a trail thick and wide. It leads right

725
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: to them. So this point, the law enforcement folks, so

726
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: they don't know what's going on. It's so obvious, like wait,

727
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: you just showed you his face and are you was

728
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: anyone forcing him to do it? You know, like he couldn't.

729
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: Don't believe what they're dealing with. So what do they do?

730
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: They go and they question the money counters, like were

731
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: you in on this? They questioned, the security guards wide

732
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 2: you open the door, right? They all they get them

733
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: all separated, They ask what happened? They all pretty much

734
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 2: tell the same story. All the stories they collect they

735
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: all match, so now the truth gets shaken out, They're like,

736
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: it was Rolando, Okay, so the sheriff's deputy, so they

737
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: can't know if there must be some insider possibly, So

738
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: at this point they have to keep all of the

739
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: casino resort guests whoever's there, at like four in the morning,

740
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: which has got to be a lively crowd. O. What

741
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: a motley crew that lasts for several hours. They hold

742
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: them all on the property right the casino is on lockdown.

743
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: According to the local press coverage, I read quote, many

744
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: gesked went back to gambling while others stood around the

745
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: interest in trying to find out what had happened.

746
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 4: Well, I could see the pit bosses being like, just

747
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: keep it going, car.

748
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: You got a bunch of seventy year olds agoing what now,

749
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: tell me again it was Rolando. According to seventy one

750
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 2: year old Glenn Hoffman of Little Creek, he said, they

751
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: had guards at the front and back door, and we

752
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: were all told to stay put where we were. Where

753
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: we were in the buildings. No one knew what was

754
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: going on. So there was one elderly woman though she's

755
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: having heart trouble, so she they searched her. They patted

756
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: her town or whatever, and then she was allowed to leave.

757
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: She's the only one allowed to leave the property. She's

758
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: got her hobbing. So at this point though, everyone gets

759
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: held and said. They all get questioned by the cops

760
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 2: and then their co workers are like, no, it was Rolando.

761
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: Everyone's keep saying it was.

762
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: I guarantee that lady didn't have heart trouble.

763
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: She just wanted to leave.

764
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: Yees, get to a certain age and you can, they'll

765
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 4: believe you.

766
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: And I think I'm having a cardioctually.

767
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 4: You don't want my death on your hands.

768
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: Everybody, all the ten witnesses were like, it was Rolando.

769
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 2: The cops are like, okay, we're getting some definite patterns here,

770
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: but a couple of them alsogo if it was Rolando, man,

771
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: it was also, I'd be willing to bet you was

772
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: involved in this was his work, buddy, Eric Aguilera.

773
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 4: So they were like hanging out and.

774
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: Everyone knew, like Orlando wouldn't do this by himself. There

775
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 2: he's easily kind of the smarter one, so I'm thinking

776
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 2: he was involved. So within less than an hour after

777
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: they get away with it, they've both been id'd cop.

778
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: The cops launched their man hunt. All right, So a

779
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 2: few hours after this, after the heist, the Ford Mustang

780
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: is found abandoned. I guess they're like, here's some more clues.

781
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: Here's my car to confirm it's Rolando.

782
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 4: With the registration exactly.

783
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 2: So it's parked a few blocks from the casino, not

784
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: hard to find.

785
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: They didn't make it, ran out.

786
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: Then they walked back to Eric's car, or maybe maybe

787
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 2: they thought to switch cars. I don't know. Presumably, though

788
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: I'd like to believe they disappeared in Aguilera's car. These

789
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: are not the best or brightest heisman. So now where

790
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: do these two go with their stolen one point five mil?

791
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 4: Do these two go with they're stolen one point five minutes?

792
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: Great question, Elizabeth. Did they make a run for the

793
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: Mexican border like old cowboys would. Did they head to

794
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: a small regional airport where there was a waiting private plane.

795
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: Did they climb into a U haul moving truck driven

796
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 2: by a third friend and disappear into the LA metropolitan

797
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: area like like they're part of heat? No, no, and no.

798
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: So where did they go? Well? If you guessed not far,

799
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: you would be one hundred percent correct. Then they this

800
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 2: two man highst crew. They hold up in a Motel

801
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 2: six in Palm Springs now by seven am. Rolando R

802
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: And Eric there in this Motel six room with the

803
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: stolen money dumped on like the double beds or whatever,

804
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: and they're like, you know, lying on it, throwing it

805
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: in the air. I don't know what they're doing. It's

806
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: just fun to picture and then to make things worse

807
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 2: better however you want to look at it. Eric Aguilera's

808
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: baby mama, his twenty three year old living girlfriend, Yea

809
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 2: Sonya Boyoquez. She shows up at the motel six oh

810
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: and when she sees all the money on the beds,

811
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: she's like, oh my goodness, and she's floored by it. Right,

812
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: She's like, let me get a roll, and then they

813
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 2: throw stacks and the rainbow down onto her. Stacks and

814
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: stacks of cash is how she described it. At this point,

815
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: the two amateur heightsmen and the baby mama, the living girlfriend,

816
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: they count out how much they've gotten away with, and

817
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: they don't divide it up evenly. It's not a fifty

818
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: to fifty split. Because Rolando went in the building, he

819
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: did most of the risk. Yeah, Eric Auguilera's just basically

820
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: the glorified getaway driver. So and after their profits from

821
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: the heisters split up, Aguilera and his living girlfriends Sonia,

822
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: they take off. They drive him down to San Bernardino

823
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: and she helps him check into a new hotel while

824
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: Ramos heads to La Now it's still early and the

825
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: robbery has yet to hit the news, so the cops

826
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: already know it was an inside job. More than that,

827
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: they know who did it. It's Eric and Rolando. So

828
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: now you know within hours of launching their man hunt,

829
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: they have search warrants, so they go to both men's

830
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 2: homes when the Riverside County Sheriff's departments, the detectives show

831
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: up at Eric Aguilera's house. Yeah, he isn't there, thankfully now,

832
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: but they have a search warrant, so they just enter

833
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: the premises. What do you think they find, don't bother guessing.

834
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a duffel bag with five hundred and

835
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars from the casino. He just took his

836
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: money to his house, left it and then went to

837
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: like the San Bernardino motel room to hide out. Like,

838
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: if I'm not with the money, then they can't prove

839
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 2: it was me man, I don't know.

840
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: So.

841
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: Now at this point, the cops widen their circle of investigation.

842
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: Using their search warrant, they start to surveyl Agibilera's phone.

843
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: That gives them a new lead. The very next day,

844
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: Riverside County detectives show up at one of his relatives

845
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: houses and that's where they find him. Right, hey, Eric, Hey,

846
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: you're gonna need to come with us and we are

847
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: going to have some answer some questions about Rolando. He's

848
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: there with Sonya, So she gets arrested too, as an

849
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: accessory to the house. Way to go, Sonya, you know,

850
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 2: she had to be pissed about that. They didn't even

851
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 2: get to spend a dollar of the stolen loot. It

852
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: wasn't even a full day that they got to be

853
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: successful heist. Roberts, No, No, it.

854
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 4: Means from one Motel six to the next.

855
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: Exactly. The mastermind, Orlando, He isn't so easy to find.

856
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: His red whereabouts remain unknown Riverside County Deputies the detective

857
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: as they tell the local press, they believe Ramos is

858
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 2: still in California. That might change soon, you know, he could.

859
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 4: Bounce a lot, can happen?

860
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: Assistant Sheriff Pat McManus tells the press he didn't run

861
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: for the border as soon as he left the casino.

862
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got family members outside the country, but

863
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: we think he's still in the state. So like, I

864
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: don't know why he's telling everything, but you know, Nursey,

865
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: they won't answer questions, and no, we're gonna tell all.

866
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: At this point, the investigation becomes a federal affair. US

867
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 2: Aaron Marshalls. They joined the man hunt and so does

868
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 2: Border Patrol. They're all all alerted to be on the

869
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 2: lookout for Rolando Ramos. So, Elizabeth, do you like he

870
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: fled the country because he's got family in both Mexico

871
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: and the Philippines, and that's got the money to slip away.

872
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 4: No, he didn't.

873
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: But the casino heightsts he's an amateur, clearly saying that's

874
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: what's on the side of the law. So let's take

875
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: a break and after these messages, I will tell you

876
00:39:49,760 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: about the hunt to find Rolando. Yes, so at this point,

877
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: Rolando's on his own, Yes, but he knows Eric Aguilar

878
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: has been caught because he's in the news. The cops

879
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: have released it, right right, so he's like reading about it.

880
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: He's like, Okay, I'm gonna have to lay low. They

881
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: also at this point decide to put a little pressure

882
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 2: on this man on the run. They go old school.

883
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: They release a photo of Rolando to the news something

884
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: that his face is all over the TV news, He's

885
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: in the local paper, the La Times, the Orange County newspapers,

886
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: the San Diego Union Tribune. His face is all over

887
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: like local news websites. Right, this wanted man's face is everywhere,

888
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: like it's like a nineteen forties noir film.

889
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 4: And they've speculated that he's left the country. And if

890
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 4: I'm him, I'm thinking of then I'm not leaving the country.

891
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and there's also lots of ways to leave

892
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: then to China shan him.

893
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: Right.

894
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: So the cops, though, they also say that he's armed dangerous,

895
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: and they tell the public keep your distance, he's armed,

896
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: in dangerous.

897
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 4: And they tell me he's Susan.

898
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: You see him called nine to one one, do not engage.

899
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 4: I'll do that.

900
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: And I don't know if they mentioned I don't know

901
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: if the cops know he had a BB gun or

902
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: they actually believed he was armed in dangerous. But that's

903
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: what they tell the public, and.

904
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 4: It helps up a man on exactly, even if they

905
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 4: knew it was a BB gun, I would go, that

906
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: is a weapon.

907
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So he is text, he is forearmed.

908
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 4: And he's dangerous because he doesn't think things through.

909
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Riverside County Detectives they use a search warrant to

910
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: go and search his place too. Maybe we'll find the

911
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 2: other one mill. You know, we got the five hundred

912
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: and fifty. So this is where they find a very

913
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 2: important clue. And when they go to his home and Hemmett,

914
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: he's not there, the money's not there. But what they

915
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: do find is theatrical makeup.

916
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 4: You get out of here right now. I'm so excited.

917
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: Like I like to imagine it was like mine the makeup,

918
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: or like birthday clown makeup.

919
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 4: It was like when you're a kid and you get

920
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: Halloween makeup and it's those oil sticks and it's like white.

921
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah and black exactly his primaryers.

922
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got to do something with it.

923
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: I was really rooting when I read this. I was

924
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: rooting for him to like his plan was to pain

925
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: himself as like either like a street mind as part

926
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 2: of his getaway, or like a birthday clown and that's part.

927
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 4: Of his estake beach.

928
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, nobody will see me. I'm late for

929
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: my birthday party or no.

930
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 4: You know, you just like do really bad makeup, like

931
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 4: you know, oh, this person's not right. You get the

932
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 4: fistics all going off the side and get a fright

933
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: wig and they're like, oh honey.

934
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: Did you did you miss the audition? Did you blow it?

935
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: So the Assistant Sheriff McManus, he tells the press, we

936
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: assume he's trying to disguise his appearance. You Assistant Sheriff.

937
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 4: Mcmahonus, guy is the best, right, he's on.

938
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: Top of it. I like these different groups that they're

939
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 2: fighting against. You know, they have to overcome the casino,

940
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: the security, They got to overcome the Riverside Assistant Sheriff

941
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: and his gang. Yeah, and all of them are just beaming,

942
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: you know, just bright lights. So at this point, does

943
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: the Riverside County Sheriff are they able to get their man? Well,

944
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: Orlando Ramos on the run. He's got a million dollars,

945
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: He's believed to be using theatrical makeup. He may be

946
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: armed with a BB gun.

947
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,720
Speaker 4: Where has he got like jackal level prosthetics?

948
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: Oh, that would be dope. Yeah, like fake nose and eyebrow's.

949
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 4: Just like just like, no one has a chance.

950
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: He doesn't have enough gargo, so it's like flapping at

951
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: the sides. So also, he's got a half day head start.

952
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: You know, he's checking the news. He knows his partner's

953
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: been caught. So at this point, how does he play

954
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 2: it smart? Do you think he can do it? Elizabeth?

955
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: No, No one involved in this on either side of

956
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 4: it is like demonstrating best practices.

957
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: The Riverside County investigators, they seek more help. They get

958
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: six different search warrants and twelve secured court orders from

959
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: the State Attorney General's office to run cell phone monitoring

960
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 2: on Ramas' cell phone and the family the numbers of

961
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: his family known.

962
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 4: Associates announce to the press that's the one.

963
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: Thing they seem to hold them to themselves. They also

964
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: go and begin to interview his family, his friends, his associates,

965
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: like where's Orlando's he contacted you right, and they bring

966
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: it detectives from Ontario and the Fontana police departments. Apparently

967
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: they're effective. They're the only ones they see mentioned. Can

968
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: we get some of those Fontana boys? How about the

969
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: Artario girls, and they available because they kick ass. The

970
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: proverbial net is now closing in. It's only a matter

971
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: of time, they're convinced. But will Ramos be able to

972
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: flee the country? Is Orlando gonna run? At this point

973
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: we're on day two of the man hunt. Where in

974
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 2: the world is his car in San Diego? Great question, Elizabeth,

975
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: I'm really glad you asked, right. Is there a bit

976
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: make a birthday clown slinking around la?

977
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 3: You know?

978
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:30,959
Speaker 2: Who knows?

979
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: Was he?

980
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: Like?

981
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: Maybe he was like cross dressing and pretending to be

982
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: a woman with like a bad wig job. I don't know,

983
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: maybe you know, like I'm just in my minivan running.

984
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 4: Errands, you know, like a Century City mime school.

985
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 2: Turns out he was busy applying for an emergency passport

986
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: so he could flee the country. He did not have

987
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: his passport in order or like some like one I

988
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: bought at MacArthur Park.

989
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: Also, it's like he's wanted his pictures everywhere. I'm gonna

990
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 4: go through the appropriate channels to get an actual passport.

991
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: Exactly, I'm gonna go deal with the feds. Tell about

992
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: you need an expedited and here's where to send it. No,

993
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: I'll come and pick it up. Either one's bad, like

994
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: here's where I will be or here's where I am,

995
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 2: like send it to me, or I'll come meet you,

996
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: you know. Either way. He also gets busy contacting his

997
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: family in the Philippines, but he's smart enough not to

998
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: use his own cell phones, so you got to give

999
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: him that. I forgot to mention. He's also high as

1000
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: hell on cocaine because he's been living it up. So

1001
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: before he flees the US, he got nothing to do. Elizabeth.

1002
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 2: You know, he's got all this money just burning a

1003
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 2: hole in his duffel bag. So he goes in. He

1004
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: grabs some food, a couple of eight balls of cocaine,

1005
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 2: He picks up a couple of sex workers. He has

1006
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: himself a little going away party. In other words, he

1007
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: gets sloppier, right, Oh no, yeah, that'll be his downfall. No,

1008
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: but rather than me tell you about Elizabeth, I don't

1009
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: you close your eyes like you picture is. It's early

1010
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: in the morning on Saturday, August fourth, two thousand and seven.

1011
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: And when I say early, I mean like three am.

1012
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: At the moment, you are busy at work as the

1013
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: overnight manager at the executive in motel on Elsagundo Boulevard

1014
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 2: in Guardina, California. The rather sketchy motel is located just

1015
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: a few blocks west of the one ten Freeway. It's

1016
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: about eight miles away from Lax Airport, or in La Terms,

1017
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: a fifteen minute drive by car. It's been an uneventful

1018
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: night so far, which you're thankful about since this motel

1019
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: is also a few blocks away from the Lucky Lady

1020
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: Casino and Larry Flint's Hustler Casino. Neither one is a

1021
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 2: real casino. They're both card rooms, but you know they

1022
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 2: call themselves casinos because they've got notions. They're not known

1023
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: to attract the best clientele. You're always happy when a

1024
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: Saturday night does not include some boso who wants some

1025
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: easy money at the Hustler Casino who shows up with

1026
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: some scandily dressed women saying I need a room. So far,

1027
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: so good. At the moment, though, you're busy using the

1028
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: front desk computer to type up phony reviews of the

1029
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: motel on YELP, your boss, the owner, demands that you

1030
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 2: counteract the many, many bad reviews of this motel in

1031
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 2: of some vain hope he can like improve the two

1032
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: star average and bury some of these very ugly reviews.

1033
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: In fact, you've just got done rereading the top review

1034
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: which stated that quote warning, don't go here. I've came

1035
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 2: here not too long and it's horrible, despicable, and grotesque.

1036
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: My unit had rats, roaches, bedbugs, and I think fleas.

1037
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: They invaded my privacy by going in my room and

1038
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 2: moving my things from the first floor to the third

1039
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 2: floor without notice. They lost my belongings. When I asked

1040
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: about it, they kicked me out there with no toilet

1041
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: seed in my toilet, no towels, soap or anything given out.

1042
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: The owner or manager is a total rude, disrespectful ahole.

1043
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: He kept threatening to kick me and my one year

1044
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: old son out anytime I said something needs to be

1045
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: shut down. It looks and smells like skid row. Not joking,

1046
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: I am definitely suing. That other guy who gave it

1047
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 2: a five is the owner's brother. I saw him before.

1048
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: He works late nights, shaking my fin head. You can't

1049
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: help but laugh as you read it. Of course, the

1050
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: owner's brother got caught posting fake reviews, the same fake

1051
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 2: reviews you're now posting. But he's a lazy dufist you,

1052
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 2: you're smart him getting caught a spot on. Meanwhile, as

1053
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: you type out your fake review and the worn out

1054
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: keys go click click clack, you wonder why you're even

1055
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: wasting your time. Who would read a review and also

1056
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: stay at this motel. They're not checking Yelp reviews. However,

1057
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 2: you really need the job, and you know the a

1058
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 2: whole owner will definitely check if you've posted. The fake

1059
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 2: reviews are not in the morning, so TYPEI type type

1060
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: you do, And just as you get done with your

1061
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 2: second fake five star review, you see it. A caravan

1062
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: of police cars and SUVs come tearing into the lot,

1063
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: racing up. But it's three am. Their sirens aren't on.

1064
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 2: Thank god. The cops pour out of the vehicles. They're

1065
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: all business. One officer looks to be in charge of

1066
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: this tiny task force heads over to where you are

1067
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 2: in the motel office. He pushes open the door. The

1068
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: electronic bell chimes. You smile politely and say, do you

1069
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: guys need rooms? The author s got the look on

1070
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: his face, says he wouldn't want to be caught dead

1071
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: in a place like this, literally caught dead. He strides

1072
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: up to the front desk and asked if there's a

1073
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: young man staying here alone, possibly checked in under the

1074
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: name Rolando Ramos. You tell him you'll check the computer.

1075
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: Click a clack, go the keys again, and sure enough,

1076
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,479
Speaker 2: there is a young man staying at the motel, checked

1077
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: in just the night before, but he didn't use the

1078
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: name of Rolando Ramos. The officer shows you a photo.

1079
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: Does he look like this man? You give the picture

1080
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 2: a quick glance and yes, you remember checking him a

1081
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: night before. You not. You say room two fourteen, and

1082
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: the officer says thank you. He spins on his heel

1083
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 2: strides out. The electronic bell chimes again as the door

1084
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: closes behind him. Meanwhile, you step away from the front

1085
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: desk and walk out to the office to see what

1086
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: you assume will be some sort of dramatic drug bust.

1087
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 2: This guy is far from the first to be busted

1088
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: at this motel. The electronic bell chimes as you step

1089
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 2: out into the early morning air. You watch the tiny

1090
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: task forse of cops at La County Sheriff's Deputies and

1091
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: Riverside County sheriff Deputies and what looked to be maybe

1092
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 2: US Marshals as they bound up the cement stairs and

1093
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: rush to room two fourteen. One of the officers, a big,

1094
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: burly cop, knocks his heavy fist against the door to

1095
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: the motel room, and now just police open up. You wait, ever,

1096
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 2: curious to see if the young man will open the door.

1097
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: Is he will? He? And the cops will they have

1098
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: to bash it in. After a moment or two, the

1099
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: burly cop gives a signal. He waves the second officer

1100
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 2: over with a handheld battering ram to knock the door in.

1101
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 2: He marches over all official life. With one swift swing,

1102
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: he bashes in. The motel door caves in like it

1103
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 2: was made of cardboard. Cops all rush into the motel room.

1104
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 2: Thankfully there's no gunfire, because you know, if there was

1105
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: any bloodspill, who would have to clean that up? And

1106
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be the a hole owner and it wouldn't

1107
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 2: be the cops. After a long moment, a few cops

1108
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 2: emerged from the darkened motel room. They have the young

1109
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 2: man in handcuffs, and he looks the same, except you

1110
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 2: see that he must have been wearing a wig, because

1111
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: now it's all half a skew on his head. And

1112
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 2: he said makeup. His disguise is useless. Now. After another

1113
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: moment passes another share step. He emerges from the motel room.

1114
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: He's holding a dingy stained pillow case. It looks like

1115
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: it's loaded with either money or drugs, perhaps both. A

1116
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 2: little while later, you learn your suspicions were correct. You

1117
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: overhear two share stepy to discuss the money in the pillowcase.

1118
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 2: It was just over eight hundred thousand dollars. You laughed

1119
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 2: yourself as you imagine telling the motel owner about this bust.

1120
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: No amount of phony YELP reviews will cover this press.

1121
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: It's a clear time you need to find a new job.

1122
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: There you go, Eliza bit. That's how Rolando Ramos get

1123
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: caught isazy motel by lax.

1124
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 4: I really like the reviews, says they're going to sue right.

1125
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 4: My legal team is on this. There's no there's there's

1126
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 4: no seat on the toilet, and I brought my one

1127
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 4: year old child with me. But I'm calling my attorney.

1128
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: So hold up into this sleazy hotel down the street

1129
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: from the hustler of casino. Yeah, hiding out his eight

1130
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: hundred grand in a pillowcase.

1131
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 4: It's amazing, beautiful Waiting.

1132
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: He waits for his emergency passport to be ready so

1133
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 2: he can.

1134
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 4: What you do this for?

1135
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 2: When the pillow case money was all counted, it was

1136
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: eight hundred four thousan two hundred and thirty nine dollars.

1137
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: Now you're keeping track of what was stolen and how

1138
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: much is recovered. That leaves about a thirty grand of

1139
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: missing casino money at the end of it all exactly.

1140
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: I don't know how he blew thirty grand. Basically one

1141
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 2: night on sex workers, blow and Carl a motel room

1142
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 2: that couldn't cost more than eighty dollars. But according to

1143
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 2: Assistant Sheriff McManus, he tells the presses he puts it

1144
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 2: ramos was a spending on the on the run to drugs, women,

1145
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,959
Speaker 2: rooms and food. How many buffet lines? I mean, would

1146
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: you have to go through it?

1147
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: We went through the drive through a bunch and then

1148
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 4: he would forget it in the car and then like

1149
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 4: go back in and go oh man.

1150
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: And then have to you have to be buying kilos

1151
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: of cocaine and like a restaurant, like buy the restaurant,

1152
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 2: like I'll take this the whole boys, because.

1153
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 4: You'd forget a lot of friends and they all just

1154
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 4: went and got buckets chicken.

1155
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 3: There you go.

1156
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: Actually I could see that ringing up real quickly.

1157
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 4: He's at the Larry Flint Club and he's like, who

1158
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 4: wants armies? And then like, don't worry, I'll go pick

1159
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 4: it up.

1160
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 2: Like half the La Clippers are like I do.

1161
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 4: So he's like, okay, he goes in there. I want

1162
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 4: like sixty beef sanguich.

1163
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: According to San Diego Union Tribune, once it was all

1164
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: said and done, it was twenty nine and thirty dollars

1165
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 2: of the one million, five hundred and eighty one thousand

1166
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: and nine dollars that they've taken all together. So Assistant

1167
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 2: Sheriff McManus from Riverside County he summed up the casino

1168
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: heist in the subsequent bust with a rather pithy statement,

1169
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: or rather, I think an understatement. He said, the robbery

1170
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 2: was well planned, the getaway was lacking. Again, Assistant Sheriff McManus,

1171
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: that's going in the paper. So these criminals, we see

1172
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 2: it off and over and over again. Right, they're willing

1173
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: to risk it all, and yet they haven't thought about

1174
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: how they'll get away with it. Like over and over again,

1175
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: we see this like, look, honestly, half of more than

1176
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 2: half of the crime is the planning of the crime

1177
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 2: should be going into getting away with it. Yeah, yeah, anyway,

1178
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: Rowanda Ramos arrested booked at the Southwest Attention Center on

1179
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: Saturday morning. He's charged with casino robbery, kidnapping, fallse imprisonment, battery.

1180
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: Two days. That's how long it took the cops to

1181
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: find him. Two days, Elizabeth, Well, like a day and

1182
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 2: a half of freedom, because remember that first night he's

1183
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: over there in the Hotel six in Palm Springs, hanging out,

1184
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: counting the money, waiting for you know, so what do

1185
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: we expect? You know when you your plan is to

1186
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 2: rob a casine, know where you work, and you don't

1187
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: even trouble yourself wearing a mask? Like how stupid can

1188
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: one man be or two men in this case? Yeah,

1189
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: well I was. On Monday, Ramos sits for a jailhouse

1190
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 2: interview with the Riverside Press Enterprise.

1191
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 4: Oh there, that's a smart move.

1192
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 2: I asked about why he'd done it and why I

1193
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 2: threw against like, you know, his lawyers and express intent.

1194
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: Rowlando Ramos tells the reporter from the Press Enterprise. He

1195
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: blames the cocaine has he put it. I was so

1196
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 2: fried up I was acting on adrenaline. Now that I'm

1197
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: completely sober, I'm like, I can't believe I did that.

1198
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 4: Oh, nor can we.

1199
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 2: Hey switches gears and he wants to know how he's done, Like,

1200
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: what's the press like outside? Right? Am I causing a

1201
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 2: stir in the media? And he loves he's getting a

1202
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 2: lot of media attention, Like he's clearly that's like a

1203
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: stoke frame, Like, well, if I'm going inside at least

1204
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 2: outside of talking about Rolando, make sure.

1205
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 4: You get my good side. He's like, I didn't bring

1206
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 4: a cameramon.

1207
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 2: He also asked the reporter, he wants to know if

1208
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: imagine that, Elizabeth, there's like an Ocean's eleven scale of

1209
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: casino heist. He's like, how did my robbery rate on

1210
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: the Ocean's eleven scale?

1211
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 4: All right?

1212
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: He off handedly remarks to the reporter and his jailhouse interview, quote,

1213
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: did I top oceans eleven or something? I mean, I

1214
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 2: don't even know how much I got away with? Elizabeth.

1215
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 2: He'd counted the money and split it, so he did

1216
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 2: know how much he got away with. Anyway, he did

1217
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: not top oceans eleven. In fact, far from it. He

1218
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: stole one point five million. George Clooney and his boys,

1219
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: the Chris Crowe and the Ocean's eleven first one. They

1220
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 2: stole one hundred and sixty million from Terry Benneddict's casino

1221
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas exactly, which means he didn't even steal

1222
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: one percent of what they walked away with. Not to

1223
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 2: mention Danny Ocean's crew got away with it, another thing

1224
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: he did not do because he was sitting at a

1225
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: detention center near Temecula talk about Hubris thoughs like, how

1226
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 2: did I do on the Oceans eleven scale? You still

1227
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 2: have cocaine in your system?

1228
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 4: Sure?

1229
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 3: So?

1230
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: Now there are two interesting twists in this case. And

1231
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: his jailhouse interview, Ramo says he wasn't actually the mastermind.

1232
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: He just was the heistman willing to walk in the

1233
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: casino and rob it. You know. He's like, I got

1234
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,319
Speaker 2: the Kahonas to do it. He claims. His accomplished Eric

1235
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,359
Speaker 2: Aguilera is a real brains behind their casino Joe, as

1236
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: Ramos tells the Press Enterprise, he's the one who watches

1237
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: the cameras. He's the one who knows where everything is.

1238
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 2: I'm just a pawn.

1239
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 4: Okay.

1240
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: Later, when they go before a judge. This story does

1241
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: not fly. Elizabeth Yeah. Ramos has tried, convicted, found guilty

1242
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 2: on all the charges second degree robbery, kidnapping, false imprisonment, battery,

1243
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 2: sentenced to sixteen years. His accomplished Eric Aguilera, though the

1244
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 2: getaway driver and the alleged mastermind according to Ramos, He's tried, convicted,

1245
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: also found guilty. He sentenced to twelve years in prison.

1246
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,959
Speaker 4: Oh wow, more than I thought he could totally.

1247
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 2: And Aguilera's living girlfriend brother with two children, Sonya Boriacaus.

1248
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 2: She's arrested with him Robby's so she goes to trial.

1249
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: In court, she testifies that Ramos was the mastermind. I'm like,

1250
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: I think maybe she's biased, right anyway, So she said,

1251
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 2: you know, he came up with the idea, as all

1252
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 2: his idea, but he did it. I didn't think he

1253
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 2: was serious, And she states in court, I did not

1254
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 2: take something like this serious. So she pleads guilty as

1255
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: an accessory to the heightst which I assume probably changed

1256
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: her opinion about whether or not it was serious. For

1257
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 2: her punishment, she was given a light sentence of six

1258
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: months of weekend jail time, so Saturday and Sunday yeah, exactly. Interestingly,

1259
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: both men would appeal their convictions. Yes, Ramos had two

1260
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: battery charges thrown out, but that was it. Eric Aguilera

1261
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: was let off an appellate judge reversed the judgment against him.

1262
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: So there you go, Elizabeth. He got less time than

1263
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 2: his girlfriend, who had nothing to do with it. Yet

1264
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 2: another way not to do a casino heights. So what's

1265
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 2: a ridiculous takeaway?

1266
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 4: N you know, anytime you think like that you're competing

1267
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 4: with George Clooney, think again.

1268
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a good standard to you.

1269
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 4: I really I think so, Zaren, what's yours? What's your takeaway?

1270
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 2: I'm going with yours? I like that one. I really

1271
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 2: don't have one. That's that's perfect. If you think you're

1272
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: competing with George Clooney, you're not. You need to think again. Yes,

1273
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: So there you go. You in the mood for a

1274
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: talk back, just as a little, you know, treat at

1275
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: the end of Dave, could we have a treat?

1276
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: Oh my god? Did I like ge.

1277
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 5: Hey all, it's Ario in Colorado. I was driving to

1278
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 5: an interview this morning, listening to your podcast from earlier

1279
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 5: this year on Wigsift.

1280
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 2: Right.

1281
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 5: As I got to the end, a big old jacked

1282
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 5: up truck cut me off, which isn't funny. It happens

1283
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 5: all the time though, unfortunately. But what's funny is that

1284
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 5: their license plate was wig Wig five. Then I got thinking,

1285
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 5: big old jacked up trucks are kind of like the

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Speaker 5: big old jacked up wigs from back in the day

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Speaker 5: to show status and wealth and all that ridiculousness.

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Speaker 4: So just have to share.

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Speaker 5: Keep up the good work by ye.

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing. That is so true.

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Speaker 2: You've changed my view ublifted trucks. I'm going to see

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Speaker 2: them as big wigs.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Wig five. Now we know dude Wig five is

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Speaker 4: out there cutting people off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, keeping yeah, fine, that's the pictures of Big five exactly.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Obviously we both love your talkback, So go to

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Speaker 2: the iHeart app download it, leave a talkback and maybe

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Speaker 2: you'll hear your voice here. That would be nice. Also,

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Speaker 2: you can find us if you're looking for us online

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Speaker 2: at Ridiculous Crime on Instagram, blue Sky. We have our

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Speaker 2: Ridiculous Crime pod on YouTube. Go check it out. It's

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Speaker 2: the episodes with some dope animation. And we have a

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Speaker 2: website Ridiculous Crime dot com. It was the winner of

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Speaker 2: the five time I Believe Best Hat of the Year

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Speaker 2: awards so for for non snapback hats, so that was good.

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Speaker 2: And we also have if you can, you can email

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Speaker 2: us you feel like a Ridiculous Crime at gmail dot com,

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Speaker 2: so there's that as well, and as always, thanks for

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Speaker 2: listening and we will catch you next crime Yay. Ridiculous

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Speaker 2: Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and Zaron Brenette, produced

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Speaker 2: and edited by Larry Flint, silent partner for The Hustler,

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