WEBVTT - The Wright Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Chuck and Jerry's not here again. She's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of checked out. Frankly, and this is stuff you should know, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Wright Brothers edition, which Frankly, Um, I've been using

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<v Speaker 1>frankly a lot in the last few seconds. Frankly is um,

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<v Speaker 1>I think grew out of our wind Tunnel episode? Am

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<v Speaker 1>I correct in presuming that? Mm hmmm, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. I know, I think this is just

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<v Speaker 1>on a list, Okay, whatever, Sorry. I will say though

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<v Speaker 1>that this um, and I know I say this for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of episodes, like why haven't they made a movie?

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<v Speaker 1>But it is astounding to me that there has not

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<v Speaker 1>been a big, sweeping, three hour biopic about the Right brothers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's really weird. Are we still saying biopic? That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I say. That's fine, Yeah, it just makes sense

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<v Speaker 1>to me. But um so, I agree wholeheartedly. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that that struck me is when I

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<v Speaker 1>was reading some research on this is that at one

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<v Speaker 1>point these guys, like in a test flight, got up

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<v Speaker 1>like six feet in the air, and I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see what that looked like, because these

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<v Speaker 1>are the first people, some of the first people flying,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are suddenly six feet up in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>And and this was in a glider. This is before

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<v Speaker 1>it was powered flight. So they were really at the

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<v Speaker 1>at the mercy of the wind right then and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was one of the most terrifying things they've ever

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<v Speaker 1>that's ever happened to them. And I thought that would

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<v Speaker 1>be really something to see. And that's just one of

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<v Speaker 1>many amazing things that the Right brothers did. They were

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<v Speaker 1>they were amazing human beings. Yeah, I mean the story

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<v Speaker 1>has thrills, it has is uh you know, it has

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<v Speaker 1>thrills and chills. It's obviously something that changed the course

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<v Speaker 1>of humanity. There are these like very movie like aha

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<v Speaker 1>moments that happened along the way. It's two guys that

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<v Speaker 1>were not trained engineers. They were self taught, brilliant men

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<v Speaker 1>who figured this out, but they didn't go to school

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<v Speaker 1>to learn it. So it's just I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got all the right elements. I think I did find

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<v Speaker 1>a a twenty nine minute short film from that's featured

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Hale. Oh yeah, The Great you know Buster bluth Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He's also the dude who he was also the dude

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<v Speaker 1>who rocks out to Mr Robato and that classic Volkswagen

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<v Speaker 1>ad from years back. Oh that's right, I forgot about that.

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<v Speaker 1>But he plays one of them. I can't remember which one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I saw a little clip from it. It looked

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<v Speaker 1>like it was okay, like I had a decent production value.

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<v Speaker 1>But it sounds like a drunk history episode. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it totally does. But it was he playing it straight

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<v Speaker 1>or was it supposed to be tongue in cheek. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he seemed really drunk, which was weird. Okay, No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it was No, it was totally straight. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to imagine him. Like the scene that it showed

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<v Speaker 1>was a very serious scene of him acting, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was very hard to not laugh a little bit because

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<v Speaker 1>I think Tony Hales a brilliant comedic actor. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of tough. I was like, oh man, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems funny to me. Still, yeah, I'll have to check

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<v Speaker 1>it out. But yeah, there needs to be a big,

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<v Speaker 1>big movie. I want to see this on the big screen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because so again, I mean, you kind of hit on

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff, but it's It's really important to point out

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<v Speaker 1>that the guys who were the first human beings to

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<v Speaker 1>create um to to have to undertake a powered flight,

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<v Speaker 1>were the same ones who invented that flying machine that

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<v Speaker 1>allowed for powered flight. And they were a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>self taught amateur bike shop owners who decided that they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be a part of figuring out how to

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<v Speaker 1>get humans to fly, which was super duper in the

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<v Speaker 1>zeitgeist at the time. It was like the thing, especially um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were an engineer, that you were probably thinking about, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of uh technological um razmatazz going on

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<v Speaker 1>with things like you know, the the telegraph, which has

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<v Speaker 1>been around for a while, I guess, but locomotion was

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<v Speaker 1>a big one. Trains figuring out how to move humans

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<v Speaker 1>beyond just foot power, bicycle power, um or how horsepower? Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was a big deal. And and to

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<v Speaker 1>to get people into the air flying there were a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people working on that, so and on one hand,

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<v Speaker 1>it was also kind of audacious that the Right Brothers

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, you know, we'll we'll toss our hat

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<v Speaker 1>into the ring and see if we can be the

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<v Speaker 1>ones to figure this out, just because they were self

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<v Speaker 1>taught and they were outsiders as far as the scientific

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<v Speaker 1>community was concerned. Yeah, And Dave Dave Rus helped us

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<v Speaker 1>put this together. And Dave is keen to point out

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<v Speaker 1>that like they were outsiders, they weren't trained engineers, but

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<v Speaker 1>they were far more than guys that just tinkered in

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<v Speaker 1>a bike shop. They did do that, but they they

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<v Speaker 1>very much, um, they didn't stumble upon this thing. They

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<v Speaker 1>very much were very data driven, very rigorous in their experimentation,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's no surprise that they were the first. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>They may be unlikely, but not surprising, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So even at the time, the idea was that it

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<v Speaker 1>would probably probably be the French who were the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that figured out human flight, and even the Right brothers

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<v Speaker 1>apparently thought this, but it was still open enough that

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<v Speaker 1>they decided that that they they could give it a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>And they also saw a lot of parallels. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're very famous, as we said, for owning a bike shop.

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<v Speaker 1>That was what their their trade was in Dayton, Ohio. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But they saw a lot of parallels between bicycling and flight, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, UM, bicycling requires a lot of balance and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to figure the same thing out when you're flying, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to build a machine in the most lightweight,

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<v Speaker 1>lightweight way possible, UM that can also convey a human being. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Aerodynamics factor into it. So they had a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a head start. They weren't coming. It's not like there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing in the bicycling world that has anything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with this, Especially if you're an engineer and thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>things like aerodynamics as far as bicycling bicycling is concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>you can translate that to to flight. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>the Right Brothers did. Yeah, I mean, a plane is

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<v Speaker 1>just a bike with wings, right basically, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>the early ones kind of work. And my dad's always

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<v Speaker 1>said that, Jr. If anyone ever asked you what the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between a bike and a plane is, you tell

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<v Speaker 1>him nothing. They need pop some gin and that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. So the Right Brothers, of course, Wilbur and Orville.

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<v Speaker 1>They were born UM to parents Milton and Susan. They

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<v Speaker 1>were the third and fourth sons. There were seven kids

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<v Speaker 1>total to UM. A pair of twins, A pair of twins,

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<v Speaker 1>just two people. I kept wanting to make it for people.

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<v Speaker 1>A pair of twins, one set of single set of

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<v Speaker 1>twins uh died in infancy, so there were um five

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<v Speaker 1>kids that grew into adulthood. And uh, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>pepper in some facts about their sister Catherine here and

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<v Speaker 1>there throughout the episode, because Catherine, I feel like, does

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<v Speaker 1>not get uh much credit, and she while she was

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<v Speaker 1>not inventing the aircraft, she was very very key to

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<v Speaker 1>their operation and uh management of these guys throughout their life.

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<v Speaker 1>And she was a school teacher and then later on

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<v Speaker 1>a suffragette in Ohio. Yeah, well they're there. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>their grandfather and probably their father too, was big on

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<v Speaker 1>um abolition and um like the whole family kind of

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<v Speaker 1>had this uh real defined moral compass that they adhered

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<v Speaker 1>to rigidly. Um. They also were taught as a family

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<v Speaker 1>to be maybe a little wary and suspicious of outsiders

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<v Speaker 1>and that you found your strength and your trust and

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<v Speaker 1>your your basis in the family. And that actually kind

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<v Speaker 1>of helps explain Wilbur and Orville's relationship. Neither one of

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<v Speaker 1>them ever married, and they planned on spending their lives together.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that's what they were going to do, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they did until Wilbur died uh prematurely at age

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<v Speaker 1>forty five. Um. Up until that point, they did spend

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<v Speaker 1>their lives together. But that what I'm saying is they

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<v Speaker 1>were they were going to grow old and die together.

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<v Speaker 1>And from the outside it seems really weird, but when

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<v Speaker 1>you start to read about them and who they were

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<v Speaker 1>and how they connected, it's it's awfully sweet actually, Um

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<v Speaker 1>that they had. They had a great love in their

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<v Speaker 1>life and it just happened to be their brother, not

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<v Speaker 1>in any kind of weird sexual way, not in any

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<v Speaker 1>incestuous way. You know. I think the Greeks had like

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<v Speaker 1>it does. It does, but we're in don't forget. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Greeks had four different kinds of love,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them was like a love between two men.

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<v Speaker 1>M bromance, sure, but this was brother man's and there

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<v Speaker 1>was no man's to it. It was just they They

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<v Speaker 1>were brothers that that fit together in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>you rarely see siblings do. And they happened to change

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<v Speaker 1>the world from that interconnection between them. Yeah, their mom

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<v Speaker 1>had a college degree and she was great at fixing

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<v Speaker 1>things because her father was a mechanic, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>got some of the tinkering from her. Their dad was

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<v Speaker 1>a minister and also ran. I think the church newspaper

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<v Speaker 1>from what I could gather, and like you said, the

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<v Speaker 1>brothers were tight. There was there were four years apart.

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<v Speaker 1>But Wilbur wrote to this um on paper. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it was a was it a memoir or

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<v Speaker 1>did was he just writing? I don't know. I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>journal I think they kept journals all right. Well, he

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<v Speaker 1>said this from the time we were little children. My

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<v Speaker 1>brother Oh and I lived together, play together, work together,

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<v Speaker 1>and in fact thought together. That's thought, not fought, although

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<v Speaker 1>they did apparently go at it in in a spirited

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<v Speaker 1>debate kind of way, and they really love doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't all just like wine and roses. We usually

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<v Speaker 1>owned all of our toys in common, talked over our

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts and aspiration, so that nearly everything that was done

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<v Speaker 1>in our lives has been the result of conversation, suggestions,

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<v Speaker 1>and discussions between us. That was a great Katherine Hepburn, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I could do it as Katherine Hepburn if you want, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start over please. I think there's another quote. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do that one later, okay. So that kind of goes

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<v Speaker 1>to show you, like just how how connected these guys

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<v Speaker 1>were just from a very very young age, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were they were four years apart. I mean, bilings that

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<v Speaker 1>are four years apart usually don't keep in touch after

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<v Speaker 1>a certain age, let alone spend their lives together, you know. So, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty cool that they had like that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of connection and the fact that the if you put

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<v Speaker 1>the two of them together, they were greater than the

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<v Speaker 1>sum of their parts. Basically. UM. Apparently Orville was UM

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<v Speaker 1>was once you got to know him, he was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun to be around. He was If you

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<v Speaker 1>had to pick between the two Um as to who

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe the more brilliant engineering mind, you probably go

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<v Speaker 1>with Orville. But that's not to say that Wilbur was

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of slouch UM. And of the two, Wilbur

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<v Speaker 1>was the more outgoing UH person UM. Orville was very

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<v Speaker 1>very shy, and Wilber even experienced a pretty big dip

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<v Speaker 1>in his outgoingness. He had a year's long depression UM

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<v Speaker 1>that do railed his college career. He was going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Yale study to become a minister and do

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what else, UM, And he was playing hockey

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<v Speaker 1>one day, I guess took a stick to the face,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think a couple of other things because he

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<v Speaker 1>had a long standing digestion and heart problem after that.

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<v Speaker 1>But after his face held something, something changed in him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he went into a year's long funk, and rather

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<v Speaker 1>than go to college, he directed his energy towards nursing

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<v Speaker 1>his ailing mom, who was dying of tuberculosis around that time,

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<v Speaker 1>and spent a few years rather rather than going to Yale,

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<v Speaker 1>staying home and just kind of being pretty down in

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<v Speaker 1>the dumps about things. And luckily he had Orville around.

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<v Speaker 1>Orville was also indefatigable optimist who helped Um the brothers

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<v Speaker 1>through some really dark times and this was one of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Wilbert didn't even graduate high school because of that, which

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<v Speaker 1>is remarkable um. And also didn't know they had street

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<v Speaker 1>hockey way back then, so that's something I learned too.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, yeah, at Um Orville was like even from it.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was a kid, he would go door to

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<v Speaker 1>door um collecting bones and selling them as as fertilizer

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<v Speaker 1>to the local fertilizer place. He built a printing press,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when he graduated high school, he launched a newspaper,

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<v Speaker 1>the West Side News, and that's when he got Wilburg

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<v Speaker 1>sort of out of his depression. He's like, come on, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>you get on over here. You can be the editor.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be the publisher. Um. It was the same year

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<v Speaker 1>their mother finally did pass away in eight nine of TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like that really did kind of save

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<v Speaker 1>his brother and put them on a on a renewed

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<v Speaker 1>shared path together. I think. Yeah. So, UM the shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after that, I'm not quite sure what year it was,

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<v Speaker 1>but the bicycle was a big deal. Um. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it was two. I'm sorry. The bicycle craze UM was

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<v Speaker 1>in full swing, and they decided that they would um

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<v Speaker 1>pool their their common talents together and open a bike

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<v Speaker 1>shop in Dayton, UM. And that's what they did. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a bike shop for a while, for many many years,

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<v Speaker 1>even after they were um steadily experimenting with human flight. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Katherine managed that bike shop. By the way, this was

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, she was the only one in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire family too, aside from her parents, to graduate from college.

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<v Speaker 1>She was the only right child. I couldn't get I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get a lot I tried to find out. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of one of those things where when they're

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<v Speaker 1>five kids that live into adulthood, and two of them

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<v Speaker 1>are the right brothers. You're like, oh, what did the

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<v Speaker 1>other ones do? And there was a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>stuff on Katherine and how she assisted them through the years,

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<v Speaker 1>but I couldn't really find out anything else about the

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<v Speaker 1>other the other ones, the other two were older brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>and both of them weirdly became book keep bookkeepers, I

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<v Speaker 1>said the first time, but the first one became a

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<v Speaker 1>strange from the family, moved to Kansas City. The other

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<v Speaker 1>way moved to Kansas City, got homesick and came back

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<v Speaker 1>to Ohio and then became a bookke. That was they led, No,

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<v Speaker 1>they led rather unremarkable, you know, solid lives. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>renv it the airplane, but there's no sha they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But Catherine Um, you know the fact that she was

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<v Speaker 1>the only right child to graduate from a full four

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<v Speaker 1>year college with a degree. Um. She also did that

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<v Speaker 1>while she was taking care of the family after her

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<v Speaker 1>mother died. Like the whole family was like, well, you're

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<v Speaker 1>the only woman here, so you got to the family.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she also um came back from college. I

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<v Speaker 1>think she went to Oberlin and um became a teacher

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<v Speaker 1>while she was also taking care of the family too,

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<v Speaker 1>So she does deserve a lot more credit and kudos

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<v Speaker 1>than she gets for sure. Uh yes, the c in

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<v Speaker 1>the k So let's take a break. Yeah yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk a little bit about what's going on there

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<v Speaker 1>at that bike shop right after this. M all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So the brothers have a bike shop, Catherine's running the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>They're tinkering around in there. The world. Uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>previous to this bike shop opening in two, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>there were um electric trolleys going around and Carl Binns

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<v Speaker 1>had built the first like real good automobile, and these

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<v Speaker 1>guys were, you know, they like their bike shop. It

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<v Speaker 1>was doing great. But Wilbur was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I see what's going on in France, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we can do this. Brother, Like, who cares that

0:16:57.640 --> 0:16:59.960
<v Speaker 1>we're not college educated? Who cares that I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>finish high school? And who cares that we're just bike

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<v Speaker 1>shop owners in Dayton. I think we can we can

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<v Speaker 1>invent a powered airplane. They even call them airplanes at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, a powered flyer. And so he wrote to

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<v Speaker 1>uh the Smithsonian Institution in d C. And said, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>should I read his Catherine effort said, I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>simple flight is at least as possible to man. I

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<v Speaker 1>am an enthusiast, but not a crank. I wish to

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<v Speaker 1>avail myself of all that is already known, and then

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<v Speaker 1>if possible, add my bit you old poop. That was

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<v Speaker 1>a great Truman. It was, and I think that will

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<v Speaker 1>probably never happen again. I think there's one more quote,

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<v Speaker 1>but that should be Sammy Davis Jr. Do the third

0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:46.920
<v Speaker 1>quote is Truman Capponi. Then just keep building like that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right? So, uh, the long and short of it

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<v Speaker 1>is the secretary of the Smithsonian, a man named Samuel Langley,

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<v Speaker 1>got this letter. He was a man who was receiving

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of government grant to work on powered flight. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was huge to everybody was working on it at

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<v Speaker 1>the everyone was, and he was failing at it. He

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<v Speaker 1>had something called the aerodome, which, by the time the

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<v Speaker 1>Wright brothers got cranking up, had already failed. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Luckily he wasn't a one of those egotistical guys who

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<v Speaker 1>controls the purse strings. He said, all right, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you need some information, here's a bunch of information.

0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.280
<v Speaker 1>And he sent him everything. But they had Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he sent him like a basically a reading list and

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of journals that they should subscribe to and

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<v Speaker 1>start investigating UM, and really kind of helped them get

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<v Speaker 1>along their way. UM. This is also a time when

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<v Speaker 1>some early flyers we're approaching this scientifically and publishing their data.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the least of which was a guy named Otto Lilienthal,

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<v Speaker 1>and I we must have talked about him in the

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<v Speaker 1>wind Tunnel episode two, because he definitely was a an

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<v Speaker 1>inspiration who I actually died during one of his test flights.

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<v Speaker 1>And on his tombstone it says sacrifices must be made,

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<v Speaker 1>which are has purported last words, which is controversially probably

0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.280
<v Speaker 1>actually didn't say that, but um, that's what is on

0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:16.800
<v Speaker 1>his tombstone. But he left a bunch of tables. So

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<v Speaker 1>they started studying, like Auto Lilienthals, like flight test data.

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<v Speaker 1>They were subscribing to journals, reading books, just just UM.

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<v Speaker 1>They were reading everything they could about the mechanics of

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<v Speaker 1>flight and birds and just trying to figure this out. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And they basically through this UM approach, through just basically

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<v Speaker 1>absorbing them the data and the theories that were already

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<v Speaker 1>out there. They figured out, Okay, we seem to understand, um,

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<v Speaker 1>how to get this stuff in the air and keep

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<v Speaker 1>it up in the air. We've got like lift and

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<v Speaker 1>drag figured out. Um, we have power sources generally figured

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<v Speaker 1>out what seems to be the big allunge is controlling

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<v Speaker 1>the plane when it's in the air, because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>got out of Lenthall, this thing where you actually where

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<v Speaker 1>you start to turn and then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>the flying craft turns back the original direction and it

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<v Speaker 1>causes it to stall, so you no longer have any

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<v Speaker 1>lift and you just fall out of the air like

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<v Speaker 1>a sack of potatoes. Um. That had to do with

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<v Speaker 1>controlling the plane. So the Right brothers identified very quickly

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.879
<v Speaker 1>and early on that that was a good thing to

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<v Speaker 1>to concentrate on. And that's what they started with, was

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out how to control the plane in the air. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because as we'll see later on when we get to France,

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<v Speaker 1>they they could fly straight, they could fly in a circle,

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<v Speaker 1>but they couldn't control straight and circle at the same

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<v Speaker 1>time and fly where they wanted to fly, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a big key in an airplane is you want to

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<v Speaker 1>actually go someplace, not just whatever straight ahead of you.

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<v Speaker 1>So they said Uh, Well, here's you know. The big

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<v Speaker 1>challenge was the fact that and we've talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>a few of our different episodes over the year about

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<v Speaker 1>about plane flight. But there's three things you gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>when you're up there is you gotta control your pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>which is your nose up and your nose down. Your

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<v Speaker 1>role which is your wing tips going you know, up

0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.160
<v Speaker 1>or down and turning you. And then what and then

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<v Speaker 1>you got that y'all y'all control one of the Simpson's jokes.

0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Ever look at that y'all control? Uh, And that is

0:21:24.400 --> 0:21:27.520
<v Speaker 1>nose right or nose left, And it's those three things,

0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:31.120
<v Speaker 1>those three different xs controlling them all at the same

0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:37.199
<v Speaker 1>time stumped everybody. Yes, um, because the flying contraptions that

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<v Speaker 1>were being built we're basically gliders. They were basically hang

0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 1>gliders that people were billy, which was a big first

0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.320
<v Speaker 1>step that we need to figure out because with a

0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:50.560
<v Speaker 1>hang glider you can figure out the shape, the size,

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the curvature, the angle of the wing. Uh. And when

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<v Speaker 1>the Right Brothers came into this this field, when they

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<v Speaker 1>decided to cast their lot and to figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>to fly I Um, basically people figured had thought they

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<v Speaker 1>had already figured out the wing. Um, but that one

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<v Speaker 1>thing about seeing, like controlling the wing to moving from

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<v Speaker 1>one side to the other without stalling out. Um, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, they kind of studied the mechanics of birds,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of them noticed, I guess it was wilbur

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<v Speaker 1>Um noticed that when a bird banks, the actual shape

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<v Speaker 1>of its wing changes, so that when the wing twists

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<v Speaker 1>a certain way, it causes air to go above it,

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<v Speaker 1>to build up above it or below it, which means

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to turn one way or the other,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on which way your wing is curved. And he said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if we could figure out how to make our wings

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<v Speaker 1>do that, that might really work. But how about how

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<v Speaker 1>about how chuck? Yeah, so here's the sort of movie

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<v Speaker 1>one of the aha moments, and hopefully it happened like this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a great story if it wasn't. But he

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<v Speaker 1>was in his bike shop. He sold a dude an

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<v Speaker 1>inner tube and was holding the empty box when the

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<v Speaker 1>guy left, and he said, by Zeus's beard, this looks

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<v Speaker 1>like two parallel wings of a biplane. And when I

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:10.360
<v Speaker 1>twist this thing just right, the right wing tips curved

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:14.080
<v Speaker 1>down and the left wing tip curves up. On this box,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like, I think I have just stumbled

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<v Speaker 1>upon the way to do this, except we're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it initially with what was basically sort of like a

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<v Speaker 1>glorified box kite. We're gonna do it with wires running

0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 1>through the wings that you can twist and warp these

0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 1>things from the ground, which was a big, big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>They were doing this in Dayton. People would walk by

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, man, that is one crazy kite. I've

0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 1>never seen a kite do this kind of stuff. Oh,

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I think you should do that in Sammy Davis, that

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<v Speaker 1>is one crazy kite, babe. So yeah, so they were

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<v Speaker 1>in Dayton still at this point, flying this box kite around,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were starting to get the hang of bending

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<v Speaker 1>these wings to their will to make it do stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's man. It has changed not just the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>but my life frankly for the better. So yeah, they

0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>start testing out on as kites. So it's just pretty

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 1>sensible because you know, the goal ultimately is to get

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<v Speaker 1>a human in there and then to power the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, you want to make sure that thing's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to crash or stall out or whatever. So

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.440
<v Speaker 1>they would do um there. They would build these gliders

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<v Speaker 1>and then basically control them like kites before they got

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 1>in there, very sensibly, um, which I think is a

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.560
<v Speaker 1>pretty smart move. Yeah, they just started building them bigger basically,

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.159
<v Speaker 1>like each one was a little bit bigger than the

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<v Speaker 1>one before, right, And then once once they would see

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.359
<v Speaker 1>like okay, yeah, this principle actually works, um, then they

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<v Speaker 1>would start to get into the to the glider. They

0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.600
<v Speaker 1>would convert the kite to a glider and then try

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<v Speaker 1>themselves with them in there. So they again the purpose

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:57.520
<v Speaker 1>was to get a person aloft. It's supposed to be

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>human flight, um, but they really lies that to get

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.679
<v Speaker 1>a human in the air, you needed a really really

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>big glider or you needed a really good strong headwind.

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<v Speaker 1>And they didn't have the money or the resources to

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<v Speaker 1>build a really really big glider of the size that

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<v Speaker 1>it would have taken to just fly it around Dayton,

0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>So they started looking for places that have um, really

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<v Speaker 1>high winds. And I mean, if this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be turned into a really good movie, there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be like letter writing scenes, because they did a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of letter writing, and it actually like moves the story

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<v Speaker 1>forward quite frequently. Is one of those cases they wrote

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<v Speaker 1>to the National Weather Service or the U. S. Weather Bureau,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, hey, can do you have any wind

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<v Speaker 1>data around the United States? And they said, by God, sorry,

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>by Zeus Beard, we do. We have reems of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And they sent them the September and August I believe

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<v Speaker 1>weather data for the United States, all the weather stations

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<v Speaker 1>across the United States. And they started pouring over the

0:25:56.480 --> 0:26:01.919
<v Speaker 1>data looking for reliable, um strong winds. They found several. Yeah.

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.919
<v Speaker 1>What they wanted though, was um they wanted to kind

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:07.359
<v Speaker 1>of work in private. So they said, who has a

0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 1>lot of wind and not many people around? And where

0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>they landed, uh quite literally was Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And this is at the outer banks of North Carolina,

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.879
<v Speaker 1>which now, um is sort of a different place. I

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 1>mean it's still um it's not like Daytona Beach or anything.

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>But back then there was like not much of anything there,

0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 1>had really good wind, had sandy dunes that if you

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 1>did crash this thing, it wouldn't be as bad as

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>as crashing like in a in a hard field and

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.920
<v Speaker 1>like a frosty field. And Dayton, Ohio. And so they

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.800
<v Speaker 1>said this is the place, Let's go down to Kitty Hawk. Uh.

0:26:43.840 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 1>They did so in nineteen hundred with a seventeen foot

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 1>wingspan glider. They had that same you know, same wire

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>technology to bend these wings like the box kite, and

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.920
<v Speaker 1>they couldn't get it off the ground with a passenger,

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.679
<v Speaker 1>so it couldn't be a glider. And they said, we

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.720
<v Speaker 1>still got to treat this thing as a kite. Basically. Yeah,

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>they went back to the drawing board. They couldn't figure

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 1>out what the problem was, Um, and they realized that

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.199
<v Speaker 1>there might have been something wrong with the wings, so

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 1>they started kind of pouring themselves into the wing a

0:27:17.200 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Speaker 1>little more. Um. They figured out that maybe the curvature

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.160
<v Speaker 1>of the top of the wing needed to be taller

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 1>and closer to the front, and they came up with

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 1>another glider, the nineteen o one glider, which had a

0:27:28.119 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 1>twenty two ft wingspan, and went back to Kitty Hawk UM,

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and this time they did manage to get in the air. Um.

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 1>They took this glider for a flight, but just like

0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 1>with Otto Lilenthal, it's stalled out with Wilbur on it

0:27:43.560 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>and it crashed to the ground. He cracked his head

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:49.880
<v Speaker 1>open on a strut, a wing strut, I believe, and

0:27:50.000 --> 0:27:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Um could have died. He was very lucky he didn't die,

0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 1>but he didn't UM And they said, okay, well back

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 1>to the drawing board. We we've got to figure this out.

0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 1>And they figured something out that I think probably pushed

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 1>them along. They what they were doing wasn't wrong. They

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.680
<v Speaker 1>were following data that was wrong from the guy who

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.919
<v Speaker 1>died from auto lilienthal. They should have been their first clue.

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:16.080
<v Speaker 1>They figured right. They figured out that his data wasn't

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>particularly reliable um Or it was just plain old and correct,

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and that there's always soo something called Smeaton's coefficient, which

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>was the value for air density that you would use

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 1>when you're figuring out things like drag or lift. And

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>they went back to the drawing board and said, we

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>are going to have to conduct our own experience and

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:38.360
<v Speaker 1>create our own tables. And this is when they built

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>their very famous now thanks to our episode on wind tunnels.

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Wind tunnel, that's right, UM. They like we said there

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>were wind tunnels around, but they had one themselves. I

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>think it's about six ft long, and they built two

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred little model wing designs. Because you know, we said

0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>it before, but it bears in mind repeating it. They're

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>working with UM these wings are stacked, so it's not

0:29:04.600 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>just like it's not a well is that funny? Forgive it?

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I know what you're talking about. It it's

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>not just a single wing coming out each side. It's

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>like a biplane or a box kite. So you've got

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you've got four different well not four different, it's really

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>two different things you're trying to figure out. But you've

0:29:23.200 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 1>got four wings. And you know, they had to carve

0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.239
<v Speaker 1>these things to um. You know, they like what if

0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>the top wing is a little bit different and the

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 1>bottom wing is a little bit different. So it's a

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.720
<v Speaker 1>lot of experimentation that went into this, and they built

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 1>two hundred model wings, uh and tested them in that

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 1>little wooden wind tunnel. And the real key though, was

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>that they had equipment that could very accurately measure that

0:29:49.320 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>lift and drag and they could really kind of stack

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>everything out head to head and see which one worked

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the best. Yeah, they which combination right there. Yeah. They

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>built what are called balances, which measure the movement of

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the say like the wing or the the movement of

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>the air around the wing. Um. We talked a lot

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>about that in the wind tunnel episode, but I didn't

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>realize that engineers basically consider that the balances that they

0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>created to be on par if not exceeding the impressiveness

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>of the fact that they achieved flight. Like these balances

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 1>were not so precise and they built them out of

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>old bike spokes and hacks all blades, But that that

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>was one of the things that were well known for

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>was they could take they could say, oh, yeah, hacks

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>all blade, what could I use this for? And they

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>would just fit it into different scenarios in their mind

0:30:40.240 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>and say, oh, I could do this, or I need

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>to build this. What could I use for this? And

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 1>they would come up with hacks all blades and bike

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.840
<v Speaker 1>spokes and then more impressive than that, these things would

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>actually work. So thanks to their dedication to experimentation and

0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and taking down data and then building these balances that

0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>gave them very very accurate data, they not only were

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 1>able to build their own um tables to figure out

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 1>which wing shape and form and size was going to

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>produce the best lift and the best control um they

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>also were able to revise s. Meeting's coefficient, which has

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>been in use since the eighteenth century UM from point

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>zero five to point zero zero three three and if

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>you if you do the math today using modern equipment.

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>It was almost exactly precise. And they figured it out

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>thanks to their hack saws and bike spokes. That's right.

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And Jimmy Smeaton sat up in his grave burped out

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>a little dust bubble, right, and then laid back down.

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Uh no, I don't feel like it's to do. So

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.120
<v Speaker 1>they have their own data. Now they go back to

0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Kitty Hawk in two well armed, feeling good. They get

0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>their third glider going based on this data, and it worked.

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>They carry a person, and they had this you know,

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>they had this sliding effect that caused Wilbert to crash

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>in that last flight. So they added a rudder to

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>stabilize things during turns. And they made thousands of test

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>flights with this glider over the course of like nineteen

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>o two and nineteen o three. A couple of times

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>they went over six feet like you said earlier, in

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>altitude and a glider, and they said, and I think

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 1>it's a great time for a break. They said, I'll

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 1>tell you what's next. We've gotta power this thing with

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>an engine or we're just gliding around like a bird.

0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>So we'll be back right after this to talk about

0:32:34.560 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 1>their power source. Okay, Chuck, Um, so they have they

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>have the shape, the size, the design of the actual

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>flying machine, but unless they power it, it's just gliding basically,

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>And they knew that gliding wasn't going to cut it.

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>What's more, it's worth pointing out, Chuck, that they had

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>already contributed to um aeronautics and our understanding of aerodynamics

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:38.959
<v Speaker 1>to an astounding degree that the data sets that they

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>came up with from their wind tunnel was the greatest

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>most advanced set of data any scientists one planet Earth

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>had at the time. And again, these are the self

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 1>taught right brothers working in their bicycle shop who are

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>doing this. But they said that's not enough. We're really close.

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.719
<v Speaker 1>We think we can figure this out. We we are

0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 1>going to invent the airplane basically. Um. And that's what

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>they said about doing Yeah so um, And I still

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>can't imagine dude being six feet up the poop your

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 1>pants feeling that must have been. You know who could

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:14.080
<v Speaker 1>do it really well? I see Sam Rockwell, oh yeah,

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 1>it's either Orville or Wilbur maybe or of both. Yeah. Yeah,

0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.759
<v Speaker 1>you'd be like Tom Hardy and legend. Yeah, you just

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 1>change him up. He wouldn't be twins, but he could

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>play both parts. That'd be kind of cool. You only

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 1>gotta pay one guy, that's right, but you have to

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:32.400
<v Speaker 1>pay him twice. So, uh, they go back to Dayton.

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>They decided, Uh, they were trying to figure out to

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>power this thing, and they said, well, if we're gonna

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 1>power this, need to figure out the engine and the propeller.

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:43.800
<v Speaker 1>And they thought about the Navy. They were like, the

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.319
<v Speaker 1>Navy builds plenty of propellers for their boats, and they

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>were very surprised to learn that in all those years

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that the Navy never really worked on thrust in the

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>design of a propeller. So they said, thrust is the

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 1>key here. So we're gonna go back here and we're

0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 1>going to carve dozens and hundreds of little tiny propellers

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>by hand from little tiny pieces of wood. I bet

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you love that, don't you. God I love it, And

0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean I try to carve something every time I

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.760
<v Speaker 1>go camping, and then thirties five years, I've never carved

0:35:15.800 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>anything that was worth keeping. What do you do you

0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 1>have like a go to like fertility idol or I

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 1>used to try and carve like tobacco, pipes and then uh,

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 1>just little people and that was just never any good

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 1>at whittling and stuff. But it's how would you get

0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the hole through the pipe that was the problem. Sure,

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.279
<v Speaker 1>so you got the pipe, it was just not functioning well.

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>I would have to then take it homeland, like use

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a drill or something. But it never made it. They

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.640
<v Speaker 1>always just ended up in the fire. I got you, okay,

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:47.360
<v Speaker 1>but back to where you came from, your stupid pipe.

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>So they're carving these little propellers and they and and

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Dave points out to that they may have been the

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>first engineers ever to come to the realization that the

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>same forces that generate lift in an airplane and a

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:05.320
<v Speaker 1>curved wing, which is Bernoulli's principle, was the same force

0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>that worked with a propeller, and that a propeller was

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 1>essentially just a wing that's uh vertical in spens. Yeah,

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 1>they figured out that there's a direct correlation between lift

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and thrust and it just has to do with whether

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 1>the wing is horizontal or vertical. And the idea that

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>they were the first ones to figure this out is

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>just mind boggling to me. But they seemed to be

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:28.520
<v Speaker 1>and at the very least even if they weren't the

0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>first ones to figure it out, they were the ones

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>who figured out how to build a propeller blade such

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 1>that it did produce thrust. So um, they figured out

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 1>how to get this thing to be more than a

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 1>glider by propellers moving and pushing the plane through the air,

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.240
<v Speaker 1>propelling it, you could say. But they had to figure

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:53.399
<v Speaker 1>out how to power the propellers. And that was a big,

0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>big problem because at the time the thing that had

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 1>held people back for a very long time was um

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 1>steam technolo ology was basically all you had, and you

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>just were not going you were you were not getting

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>off of the ground with a steam engine. UM. So

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:11.719
<v Speaker 1>the Right Brothers apparently wrote a bunch of letters to

0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:14.279
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different engine making companies and said, here

0:37:14.280 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 1>are you know parameters or design parameters. Can you fulfill these?

0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 1>And they couldn't. Not a single company came back and

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:24.520
<v Speaker 1>said we can do this, although apparently a couple did,

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>but but said we could do this for you know,

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>King's ransom, and they're like, we can't afford that. So

0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>the Right Brothers, being the Right Brothers, just said we'll

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>just do this ourselves. Yeah, we'll go back to that

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>bike shop and they had a guy work in there

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>named Charlie Taylor who was a machinist, and he was

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, it just sounds like another one of these

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>guys that was just really good at figuring stuff out.

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 1>In the movie, Charlie and Catherine would be romantic interests

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.320
<v Speaker 1>of one another, would be super cute. Well, there's actually

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>a sad story later that involves that. But will it

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:58.720
<v Speaker 1>make the story even better for the end? Okay? Um,

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>let's say just they just had a briefling and maybe

0:38:01.719 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>she inspired him to tink her better. Okay, does it

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:09.720
<v Speaker 1>work that way? Sure? I can why not? Or maybe

0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 1>she gives them the brilliant idea during some like hot coitus. Yes,

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking maybe like a rowboat ride on the lake.

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>But sure coitus, I guess you could have coitus in

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>the in the rowboat on the lake. You should just

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>abandon this. So Charlie builds a sixth grade classes by

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the way, I know, we should probably take all that out. Okay.

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>So Charlie builds a four cylinder engine out of aluminum,

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>and no one had ever used aluminum before an aircraft construction,

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>So this was yet another thing that the right, brothers

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>in Charlie Taylor came up with that would ended up

0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 1>like revolutionizing aviation. It became the backbone of aviation. He's

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:57.759
<v Speaker 1>using this lightweight aluminum, super strong, super light. And they

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.359
<v Speaker 1>connected this thing to the propeller using bicycle chains. Yeah,

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and if they if they weren't showing off before, they

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:07.280
<v Speaker 1>were by then because the engine they created, they figured

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>out they needed a minimum of eight horsepower, and the

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:11.879
<v Speaker 1>engine they created was twelve horse power, so it had

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.239
<v Speaker 1>more than enough to to power the propellers which would

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>produce thrust, which would actually create powered flight. And those

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>bike chains, um were pretty ingenious too because there were

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>um two sets of gears, one on each side, going

0:39:27.400 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>toward each propeller, and those bike chains connected the propeller

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:35.399
<v Speaker 1>to the engine. But they to keep the propellers from

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>shooting the I guess it would be yaw out the

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 1>yin yang um from creating a gyroscope with the two

0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.400
<v Speaker 1>propellers going the same way, they decided to have the

0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 1>propellers going the opposite direction of one another. To make

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.800
<v Speaker 1>that happen, they just turned one of the bike chains

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 1>into a figure eight. How ingenious is that? Going in

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.799
<v Speaker 1>opposite ways kind of like oh, I don't know, like

0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you see on airplanes these days, exact like, so the

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.239
<v Speaker 1>right brothers figured that out too. So now suddenly they

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>put all this stuff together. They put together some controls,

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>because remember controls were like one of the big um,

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that was one of the big challenges. They figured out

0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.640
<v Speaker 1>a whole set of controls that controlled the rudder, that

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.839
<v Speaker 1>controlled these elevators in the front of the airplane that

0:40:17.920 --> 0:40:21.320
<v Speaker 1>kept the nose from diving or lifting too much, um.

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>And then they had the little lever that that um

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>warped the wing one way or another to let you bank.

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.120
<v Speaker 1>And so they could control pitch, roll and yaw on

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>a engine powered aircraft with dual propellers, and they were

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 1>ready to go. All right, So here's how this thing

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 1>is actually flown, which is pretty interesting because you know,

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 1>like you said before, UM they were figuring out, like

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:47.400
<v Speaker 1>the biggest trick was how to figure out how to

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>control this thing so you could make it go where

0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:51.919
<v Speaker 1>you wanted it to go, And no one had really

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 1>done this effectively yet. So it's sort of um operated

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 1>like like you said, like a hang glider, and that

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the pilot is laying down on his stomach. In the

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:05.439
<v Speaker 1>middle of the plane, you've got the engine on the right,

0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and then right in front of the pilot was what

0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:12.320
<v Speaker 1>was known as the elevator, which are two little um

0:41:12.600 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 1>stacked wings that could be adjusted in the adjust them

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>with a little wooden lever and the left hand of

0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:22.320
<v Speaker 1>the pilot to control the pitch and that is nose

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>up or down right. UM. And those apparently used to

0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>go in the back of the plane and otto lilienthal

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 1>um crashed with the elevators in the backs of the

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>right brothers were the ones that moved into the front,

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 1>which helped quite a bit. That was a big one. UM.

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 1>There is also the hip cradle, yeah that side. Yeah,

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>it was like using your hips to to steer the

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 1>plane basically. UM. And so the the the this little

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:54.320
<v Speaker 1>the hip cradle that you laid in UM was connected

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.879
<v Speaker 1>to wires that pulled on the wings that caused them

0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 1>to warp one way or another. And then it also

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 1>was connected to the rudder so that that would stabilize

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 1>UM yaw as well. So you had two different mechanisms

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that controlled three those three different axis. It really is

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>super ingenious. Now, all of a sudden, you have a

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>plane that's that's under human control, right, Like they couldn't

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 1>figure out at this point a joystick that could control

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>all those things at once, So that that hip cradle

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 1>was that I think pretty smart um to take off,

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 1>Like this is the one thing I actually never knew.

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Always wondered how did they Like, surely they didn't have

0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:35.719
<v Speaker 1>that engine powerful enough to get them going and take off,

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 1>And that is correct. They actually had to get up

0:42:39.040 --> 0:42:41.600
<v Speaker 1>in the air for those twelve horses to do their work.

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:43.960
<v Speaker 1>And to do that, they slid this thing on a

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:48.640
<v Speaker 1>dolly on a sixty ft rail basically by the hub

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:50.600
<v Speaker 1>of a bicycle wheel. So they get it going on

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>this dolly and then it launches and then that's when

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the engine has enough I guess enough of the head

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.279
<v Speaker 1>start with a thrust to get it going in the air. Yeah,

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>so when the thing kind of launched off of the rail,

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>it was in glider mode a little bit. That helped

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.879
<v Speaker 1>the engine kick in or take over get enough power. Yeah,

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean imagine they had the engine going. No they no,

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>they totally did, but like you were saying, it wasn't

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:17.720
<v Speaker 1>enough to just go from a standstill. They needed that

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:22.600
<v Speaker 1>that glide. That glide to get it started. So on uh,

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>December sevente am. Actually there was an unsung test flight

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.040
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't get a lot of praise. But on December

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:35.200
<v Speaker 1>they tried their first attempt in this this this powered flyer,

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and they tossed a coin to see who would go

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 1>in Wilbar one and it went um down the track

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and went off of the track and crashed immediately and

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 1>broke the elevators. So they took three days to repair

0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the elevators and on the next try, on December seventeenth,

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that was Orville's turn, and so he became the first

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>human to fly in a powered flight. Orville, Orville, right,

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>did you flew for twelve seconds? Um? Just a few feet?

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I believe, I don't. I think it was about at um.

0:44:07.280 --> 0:44:10.440
<v Speaker 1>But it was controlled. He landed it, and it was

0:44:10.480 --> 0:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>a It was a genuine powered flight. And from that

0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>first flight, I think even from the one that um

0:44:15.800 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>that Wilburg tried three days before, they're like, this is

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:21.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna work. You can tell from the way the controls responded,

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think this is going to work. We just

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>gotta we just gotta keep trying. So they did. Yeah,

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>So on that same day they did three more flights

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>and the longest one. Wilbur. I love that they were

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>taking turns. I think it's so cool. Um. Wilbur piloted

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.879
<v Speaker 1>eight fifty two ft and about a minute in the air,

0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 1>which is remarkable. Like this is the moment of the movie,

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, where everyone is just going crazy. It's like

0:44:47.080 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 1>the high point of the film. And uh, then they

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.440
<v Speaker 1>go in and just like a movie, they go inside,

0:44:53.880 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 1>they're having a cocktail, they're warming up and they're so happy,

0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and a big gust of wind comes in and lifts

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>this thing off the ground and smashes it and breaks

0:45:03.680 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>it into pieces. Oh man, could you imagine? Yeah, so yeah,

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:10.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine seeing that. You'd just be like, oh,

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:13.399
<v Speaker 1>look the things that being lifted into the air, look

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>at it. Glad. Oh god, no, They're like it's tied down.

0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 1>And then Sam Rockwell goes to Sam Rockwell, Yeah but

0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 1>crash right, Yeah, that's the problem. So. Um. They apparently

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:30.760
<v Speaker 1>were not particularly worried about this at this point because

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.960
<v Speaker 1>they had already shown multiple times that this proof of

0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 1>concept was was it would work. Um that they had

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:42.080
<v Speaker 1>they had undertaken the first flight. Uh, they done it basically,

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:45.399
<v Speaker 1>so they Um. They went back to Dayton. They had

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>a habit of leaving their UM there, their test flyers

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:53.040
<v Speaker 1>at Kittie Hawk because they beat them up so badly

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:56.799
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't worth you know, moving them back UM. And

0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 1>some of them are preserved. And I believe that first

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.920
<v Speaker 1>flyer that they create it is in one of the

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:05.360
<v Speaker 1>air and space museums, maybe maybe in Dayton. I'm not

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:10.040
<v Speaker 1>sure it would make somewhere. It might be at UM

0:46:10.200 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the one out by Dullus maybe, or maybe I've just

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 1>seen a replica. I feel like I've seen one in

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 1>an airport and not a museum. So that was definitely

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 1>a replica. And it was actually only six inches why

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>and a kid was flying it around. It was our

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 1>c control. Yeah, come to think of it, I've got

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:36.200
<v Speaker 1>this all wrong. So the Right Brothers they released a

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>press release like they were acutely aware of you know,

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 1>what they've just done. This wasn't something they had fallen

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:45.640
<v Speaker 1>backwards into. This wasn't something that you know, just happened

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>through sheer luck like they worked their way too powered flight.

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 1>So they let the world know about it, and they

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:57.200
<v Speaker 1>got zero response in return. Basically, yeah, this was pretty disappointing.

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I think they, you know, sent out this press release

0:47:01.239 --> 0:47:04.359
<v Speaker 1>like you said, and got nothing. And I think they

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:08.600
<v Speaker 1>were like, um, hey, everyone, we flew a plane, like

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:10.879
<v Speaker 1>this thing that everyone's trying to do all over the world.

0:47:10.920 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 1>We did it hi and it was it seems to

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 1>be just a case of um. Like like Dave says

0:47:18.280 --> 0:47:20.960
<v Speaker 1>a boy who cried Wolf, like these newspaper editors had

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:23.680
<v Speaker 1>been burned by writing about other people who said they've

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 1>done it, and they're like yeah, right, um and it

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:29.000
<v Speaker 1>took This is kind of one of the greatest parts

0:47:29.040 --> 0:47:32.080
<v Speaker 1>of the story. I think. In September nineteen o four,

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:36.880
<v Speaker 1>a journalist that was writing a beekeeping journal called Gleanings

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and b Culture, Mr. I A. Root was the first

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 1>person to actually say, yeah, I'll write about this thing

0:47:44.280 --> 0:47:49.440
<v Speaker 1>that sounds like a good story. Culture. Who would who

0:47:49.480 --> 0:47:52.919
<v Speaker 1>would play him? Who? I John c Riley? I think,

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:56.919
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, good, good call man. Okay. So so John

0:47:56.960 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 1>c Riley shows up. He he had read about the rights,

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and he said can I can I see one of

0:48:02.040 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 1>your flights? And they invited him out and he wrote

0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 1>about it, and it didn't get much attention at the

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 1>time because I don't think Gleanings and b Culture had

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 1>a really huge readership. Story though, I think you should

0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 1>read this quote in whatever whatever accent you want to read. No,

0:48:19.280 --> 0:48:22.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna read a regular God and his great

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:24.920
<v Speaker 1>mercy has permitted me to be at least somewhat instrumental

0:48:25.000 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>in ushering in and introducing to the great wide world

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 1>an invention that may outrank the electric cars, the automobiles,

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and all other methods of travel, and one which may

0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>fairly take a place beside the telephone and wireless uh

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 1>telegraphy am I claiming a good deal? Well, I will

0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 1>tell you my story and you shall be the judge.

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 1>So that was pretty good. I mean, for no accent whatsoever. Oh,

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were talking about the actual article. So

0:48:53.080 --> 0:48:56.240
<v Speaker 1>um yeah. They still didn't get any kind of attention

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:58.240
<v Speaker 1>from that, but it is a pretty great little footnote

0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.240
<v Speaker 1>to the whole thing that that was the first article

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:03.760
<v Speaker 1>that was written on them and the Gleanings and bat Culture.

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:07.239
<v Speaker 1>They even wrote the War Department. He said, Hey, we

0:49:07.320 --> 0:49:09.680
<v Speaker 1>invented an airplane. Do you want to buy it? And

0:49:09.719 --> 0:49:12.880
<v Speaker 1>they said nah. Yeah. One of the reasons why it

0:49:12.920 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>was because the War Department was like, well, can you

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:17.919
<v Speaker 1>send us a specifications. The Right brothers were like, no,

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:21.680
<v Speaker 1>we invented this, and yeah, you give us a contract

0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>first and then we'll give you the specifications of the

0:49:23.480 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 1>War Department said Now. Even worse than the fact that

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:29.280
<v Speaker 1>they weren't getting any kind of credit for their accomplishment

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>and no takers on um selling their their design, was

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 1>that over in France. Remember we said that even the

0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Wright brothers thought that the French would be the first

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 1>to a powered flight. Um. The French were convinced that

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:42.800
<v Speaker 1>they would be the first to the power flight and

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>that they had cracked it. There were Um. There was

0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 1>a Brazilian balloonist named Alberto Santos Dumont. I think they

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:53.319
<v Speaker 1>made a movie about him recently. He's a super colorful character, right,

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:56.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I believe they did. He gave a demonstration.

0:49:58.280 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I got a movie. Yeah. I feel like they just

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 1>called it Dumont with an exclamation point maybe. Um. But

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.759
<v Speaker 1>he he flew a plane in Paris, I believe, of

0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:12.080
<v Speaker 1>his own design, UM, and it just flew in a

0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 1>straight line, no control. But it was enough at the time,

0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 1>because again no one was paying attention to the Wright brothers.

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:20.320
<v Speaker 1>It was enough for the French to be like succer Blue,

0:50:20.400 --> 0:50:23.319
<v Speaker 1>you know this is the flight has been achieved, and

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:26.360
<v Speaker 1>the Wright brothers are like, no, this doesn't know. What

0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 1>we're doing is so much better than this. N o

0:50:29.360 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 1>eight there was a guy, a Frenchman named aure Farman,

0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:35.080
<v Speaker 1>who was the first to fly a powered plane in

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>a one kilometer closed circle. This is nineteen o eight.

0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:41.399
<v Speaker 1>It bears mentioning that the Wright brothers, who again their

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:45.520
<v Speaker 1>total outsiders, no one's listening to them. Three years previous

0:50:45.600 --> 0:50:49.000
<v Speaker 1>to this they had stopped the experimental stage, they had

0:50:49.040 --> 0:50:51.840
<v Speaker 1>reached the point where they had produced a reliable plane.

0:50:52.320 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>And by nineteen oh five, three years before this, French

0:50:55.160 --> 0:50:57.960
<v Speaker 1>pilot did that one kilometer closed circle flight that just

0:50:58.040 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 1>knocked the socks off of the French um. They had

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:03.640
<v Speaker 1>done a twenty four and a half mile circle in

0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:06.759
<v Speaker 1>thirty nine minutes. The Wright brothers had three years before this.

0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:10.520
<v Speaker 1>And so imagine accomplishing this and then seeing people doing

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>like like preschool or stuff compared to what you're doing,

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:17.360
<v Speaker 1>getting all of this praise and attention and press lavished

0:51:17.400 --> 0:51:20.080
<v Speaker 1>on them, and no one's listening to you. This is

0:51:20.120 --> 0:51:22.400
<v Speaker 1>the situation that the Right Brothers found themselves in at

0:51:22.400 --> 0:51:27.200
<v Speaker 1>the time. Okay, so Wilbur has had enough. He goes

0:51:27.440 --> 0:51:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to France and nineteen eight on August eight and he said,

0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm gonna go demonstrate this thing. I'm

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>gonna show them that flying straight is stupid and I'm

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:38.920
<v Speaker 1>going to show them that we can actually make this

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:42.440
<v Speaker 1>thing turn and do whatever we want. And so he

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.440
<v Speaker 1>went to a little small racetrack outside of le Mons

0:51:46.000 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and uh, got on the ground and said, gentlemen, I

0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:54.719
<v Speaker 1>am going to fly. And they all spoke French and

0:51:54.760 --> 0:51:58.160
<v Speaker 1>they were like what he said, but he said something,

0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I think he's about to do something big. So uh

0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:04.919
<v Speaker 1>he he flew. And if the French were like suckaboo

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:08.359
<v Speaker 1>at that one flight, they were really knocked out at

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:11.960
<v Speaker 1>this one. Uh. They all realized that what was going

0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:14.400
<v Speaker 1>on in front of their eyeballs was something that the

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 1>French had never accomplished, that no one had ever accomplished before,

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and that they were basically done. And uh. There was

0:52:21.560 --> 0:52:25.279
<v Speaker 1>a frenchman supposedly that was there that was quoted in

0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the newspapers by saying, nissen batu, we are beaten. Yeah.

0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 1>So I mean imagine being like a French at the

0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 1>time and seeing like, you know, somebody in hang a

0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:41.200
<v Speaker 1>hang glider with a bicycle gear on it and being like,

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 1>people are flying, people are flying, and then somebody shows

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.759
<v Speaker 1>up in like a piper cub is like watch this.

0:52:48.360 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>That was kind of the level of knock your socks

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:53.600
<v Speaker 1>off that that the French saw, um, and that was it.

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Like from that point on, the right brothers were overnight sensations.

0:52:59.000 --> 0:53:03.360
<v Speaker 1>They were the first superstars of the twenty century for

0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:05.880
<v Speaker 1>being the first to fly, and they finally started to

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 1>get their claim. So, yeah, these guys are superstars. Katherine

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.479
<v Speaker 1>is actually, uh, if you remember, we haven't talked about

0:53:11.480 --> 0:53:14.320
<v Speaker 1>her in a bit, she's actually a superstar too, because

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>she goes with them. She learns French for the express

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.200
<v Speaker 1>purpose of helping the brothers out while they go on

0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:25.879
<v Speaker 1>an eventual European tour. Um she negotiates a deal with

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 1>because these guys, you know, I get the sense that

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:31.040
<v Speaker 1>neither one of them were businessmen, and they really sort

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:34.480
<v Speaker 1>of had their head in the invention game. And so

0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Catherine was really key for you know, initially managing that

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:40.240
<v Speaker 1>bike shop and then helping them out with their journaling

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and data keeping, and then she's the one that actually

0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:47.320
<v Speaker 1>negotiated with the army, because, yeah, the army said, hey,

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:50.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll give you guys some money. We'll give you guys

0:53:49.840 --> 0:53:52.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty dollars as a grant, but you've got to be

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:56.560
<v Speaker 1>able to fly a pilot and a passenger. Um, and

0:53:56.640 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I presumably you know a couple of pomps or something

0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:02.359
<v Speaker 1>and a gun maybe sure would be my guess, at

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the very least a guy with a rifle. Yeah. Side,

0:54:07.560 --> 0:54:11.759
<v Speaker 1>was this before or after um the tragic game of

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:14.799
<v Speaker 1>hide and Seek with Katherine and Charlie Taylor where he

0:54:14.880 --> 0:54:17.920
<v Speaker 1>hid in the trunk and got locked in and suffocated

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:20.399
<v Speaker 1>to death that you referenced earlier. I don't know. I'm

0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.960
<v Speaker 1>not sure, okay, but it was around that time from

0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 1>what I understand, right, I think so. So Katherine, she

0:54:25.840 --> 0:54:31.000
<v Speaker 1>negotiates this money, and wilbur Uh is in France and

0:54:31.200 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Orville at this time, goes back to d C and

0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 1>he eventually, in d C does a flight that goes

0:54:36.920 --> 0:54:41.359
<v Speaker 1>for seventy minutes. Yea. So the French when they saw this,

0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the French governments like, take our money, how much do

0:54:44.000 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you want for this plane? And they started to negotiate

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 1>with France to sell their military planes. That got the

0:54:49.760 --> 0:54:52.280
<v Speaker 1>attention of the U. S. War Department finally said Okay,

0:54:52.280 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 1>we're on board. We'll start buying planes from you too.

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:55.879
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that a lot of people

0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>don't realize about the Rights is that they spent several

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 1>years UM around this time training the militaries of the

0:55:03.120 --> 0:55:06.560
<v Speaker 1>US and Europe how to fly planes and selling them

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:11.640
<v Speaker 1>planes instructors. Yeah, they really were so um. During one

0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 1>of this these training I guess kind of demonstrations, Orville

0:55:16.080 --> 0:55:20.640
<v Speaker 1>had a passenger named Lieutenant Thomas Selfridge, and they went

0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:23.879
<v Speaker 1>up and we're circling a field and I'm not quite

0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:26.120
<v Speaker 1>sure what malfunction they had. Do you know what what

0:55:26.160 --> 0:55:29.160
<v Speaker 1>it was? Uh? No, I just know that Orville had

0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:31.319
<v Speaker 1>to cut, you know, cut the engine basically and try

0:55:31.360 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 1>and land. He was going to try to glide in

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and it didn't go very well. The plane, I guess,

0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:39.399
<v Speaker 1>lost its lift and just fell out of the sky again,

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:42.319
<v Speaker 1>which was a real problem back in those days. And

0:55:42.480 --> 0:55:46.040
<v Speaker 1>um Orville broke some ribs, um he sprained his back,

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:49.880
<v Speaker 1>but Thomas Selfridge died. He foctured his skull. He became

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the first casualty of a powered airplane crash in the

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:58.640
<v Speaker 1>history of humanity, which is kind of a dubious honor. Really. Yeah,

0:55:58.680 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it was Orville recovered, of course. Uh. He came to

0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.800
<v Speaker 1>France and this is when Catherine also came to France,

0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:08.879
<v Speaker 1>and this is where they did their big sort of um,

0:56:09.880 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 1>sort of the victory tour, where they were demonstrating this

0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:17.280
<v Speaker 1>thing all over Europe. People loved it. It was huge. UM.

0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 1>And like you said earlier, they were Wilbur and Orville

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and Catherine for were the first big celebrities of the

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:27.160
<v Speaker 1>twentieth century. It's it's pretty astounding. And Orville was like,

0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:29.920
<v Speaker 1>where's Charlie Taylor? And Katherine was like, I don't know,

0:56:30.000 --> 0:56:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen him in like a year now. He

0:56:31.920 --> 0:56:36.480
<v Speaker 1>just kind of dropped off the face. So strange. So UM.

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:42.440
<v Speaker 1>When they their company became established, the right company to

0:56:42.760 --> 0:56:46.439
<v Speaker 1>design and build planes. UM, when that got again got

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:50.880
<v Speaker 1>off the ground, sorry everybody. UM. Orville was kind of

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:54.320
<v Speaker 1>dedicated to the actual production and invention side, while Wilberg

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.640
<v Speaker 1>dedicated himself to the business side, meaning he ran around

0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 1>suing anybody he thought was infringing on their patents. UM.

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:05.040
<v Speaker 1>And he spent a lot of time doing that again.

0:57:05.120 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Remember they were kind of raised not to trust outsiders

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 1>like they trusted their family. Um, which is the opposite

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:14.239
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff you should know motto UM. And on

0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:17.360
<v Speaker 1>some trip while he was I believe filing one of

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 1>these patent infringements, were investigating it. He died. After a

0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:24.680
<v Speaker 1>trip to Boston, he caught typhoid and I looked, and

0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:28.920
<v Speaker 1>typhoid Mary was not cooking at the time. She was

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:32.200
<v Speaker 1>on hiatus. Because I thought, wouldn't that just be amazing

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:35.720
<v Speaker 1>if he caught typhoid from typhoid Mary? But he did

0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 1>not um or as far as I could find, he

0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>did not. So he went back home to Dayton and

0:57:40.360 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 1>he died. And he was only forty five actually. And

0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 1>remember Orville and Wilbur planning to like spend the rest

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 1>of their lives together. So this had a pretty big

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:51.920
<v Speaker 1>effect on Orville. Yeah, I get the sense. And this

0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 1>is where I sort of hinted earlier about Catherine and

0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:58.720
<v Speaker 1>her romance. Um. She went with him and kind of

0:57:58.760 --> 0:58:01.400
<v Speaker 1>stayed with Orville. He he didn't have much interest in

0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:04.920
<v Speaker 1>running the right company anymore, so he sold it in

0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:08.840
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fift sold all their patents for a million bucks

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:13.080
<v Speaker 1>about six million dollars today, so a huge sum of

0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:15.640
<v Speaker 1>money to you know, retire for the rest of your life.

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And that's what he did. Um, he still did stuff

0:58:19.160 --> 0:58:23.440
<v Speaker 1>and this was a Hawthorne Hill is big mansion in Dayton. Um.

0:58:23.560 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Like he built an automatic toaster that sliced the bread. Um,

0:58:28.800 --> 0:58:32.720
<v Speaker 1>he built a system of chains that let him adjust

0:58:32.760 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the furnace from upstairs. He built a circular shower, like

0:58:36.720 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 1>he was he was never gonna stop building things. But

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:41.800
<v Speaker 1>it was all I got the sense, and just sort

0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of retirement hobby sort of way. But Catherine, the sad

0:58:46.960 --> 0:58:49.680
<v Speaker 1>ending there is. Um she met a man and fell

0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 1>in love I can't remember his name, and decided to

0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:56.400
<v Speaker 1>get married and was really nervous about Orville. I think

0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:59.880
<v Speaker 1>he was so used, so dependent on her being around

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that that she rightfully was scared and she was correct.

0:59:04.440 --> 0:59:07.920
<v Speaker 1>And he refused to speak to her ever again after

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:13.160
<v Speaker 1>she got engaged and got married, which is really kind

0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:16.160
<v Speaker 1>of credty. Uh, that's the nicest way to say it.

0:59:16.240 --> 0:59:17.840
<v Speaker 1>And and it made me kind of think ill of

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:22.360
<v Speaker 1>him at the end, and she got pneumonia and was dying.

0:59:22.400 --> 0:59:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Basically he still wouldn't talk to her. And finally one

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:29.520
<v Speaker 1>of his friends said, you gotta go talk to Catherine, man,

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 1>this is your sister. And apparently he did arrive at

0:59:33.400 --> 0:59:36.880
<v Speaker 1>her deathbed at least, but but she had died. Yeah,

0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:39.120
<v Speaker 1>well I don't I think he got there first, but

0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:42.640
<v Speaker 1>she she did pass away of pneumonia, and us just

0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:45.040
<v Speaker 1>very sad ending to her story of after not getting

0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:47.560
<v Speaker 1>much credit over the years and sort of being at

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 1>the beck and call of these brothers that were brilliant

0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:53.280
<v Speaker 1>inventors and being a key part of their team, and

0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:55.280
<v Speaker 1>then being too scared to tell her brother that she

0:59:55.320 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 1>had fallen in love and getting married. It was really sad.

0:59:57.760 --> 1:00:02.160
<v Speaker 1>That is very sad. Um So she so Orville outlived

1:00:02.160 --> 1:00:05.440
<v Speaker 1>her as well, Huh, I didn't realize that. Well, he kept,

1:00:05.760 --> 1:00:08.280
<v Speaker 1>like you said, tinkering kind of in retirement as a

1:00:08.480 --> 1:00:11.080
<v Speaker 1>as a as a consummate inventor for the rest of

1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:14.240
<v Speaker 1>his life and he actually died. Um. Well, he suffered

1:00:14.280 --> 1:00:17.120
<v Speaker 1>a heart attack while fixing a doorbell and then died

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<v Speaker 1>three days later, apparently super alone. I didn't realize that

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<v Speaker 1>that was a real bummer ending that hadn't anticipated, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>It's a double bummer. I thought we were gonna end

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of like um him saying him being like

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<v Speaker 1>I invented to the end, and then you know, the

1:00:34.640 --> 1:00:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the SUSA band starts playing I got mad at my

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<v Speaker 1>sister because she found love and I never did. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or he did find love and it was his brother

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<v Speaker 1>who died years before. Perhaps, so that's it for the

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<v Speaker 1>right brothers. Huh, that's it. Evil Kinevel got a two

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<v Speaker 1>parter and the Wright brothers didn't. He broke more bones.

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<v Speaker 1>We're never gonna live that down. Nope, I'm never going

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<v Speaker 1>to let us live live at that down. Ah, you

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<v Speaker 1>got anything else? Nothing? Did I say that already? Maybe? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Either way, it's time for a listener mail. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>call this from a ten year old fan. We love

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from our young listeners. Hi, guys, my name is

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn and I'm ten years old and from Vancouver, BC.

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy listening to your podcasts on my way

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<v Speaker 1>to school. The two most interesting podcasts that I've listened

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<v Speaker 1>to so far, so what about soap? It's really cool

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<v Speaker 1>how soap is made? And the second one about porcupines.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so cool that the old world porcupines have straight quills.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the New world porcupines have barbed quills and how

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<v Speaker 1>they're harder to get out of your body. I am

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<v Speaker 1>very interested in the Titanic and the story behind it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was wondering if you guys ever thought of

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<v Speaker 1>doing a podcast on the Titanically. Yeah, we totally should

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<v Speaker 1>if you have. It's a very interesting topic to listen to.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So if you thought about doing that, then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you could do it. It would give me something to

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<v Speaker 1>look forward to on the car right to school. I

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<v Speaker 1>really hope you read this email, and I'm also hoping

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<v Speaker 1>that you can write back if you have time. You guys,

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<v Speaker 1>keep up the good work, and please keep making podcast

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<v Speaker 1>for me to listen to all caps. Thank you so much, sincerely, Quinn.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a great email, Quinn, thanks a lot for

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<v Speaker 1>It's great and that cute thing happens to where it's

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<v Speaker 1>from the parents email, which is always one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite things. So I wrote back to Quinn's I think

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<v Speaker 1>dad and said to tell Quinn that this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be uh it's gonna be a listener mail. So yeah, Quinn,

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<v Speaker 1>We've been wanting to do a Titanic episode for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was a period there where everyone had seen

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic so recently the movie that it was like, why

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<v Speaker 1>why would you even bother to do an episode on it?

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<v Speaker 1>Right now? Everybody like it? Now, that's not what James

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron says. Now we can do one, and it's high time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've wanted to since since day one. So listen out

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<v Speaker 1>for a Titanic episode and know that that that came

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<v Speaker 1>from you there, Quinn. Yeah, that'll be a two part probably,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see. Only time will tell. If we mentioned Evil

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<v Speaker 1>Kinevel in it, then yes, it probably will. Write. If

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