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Speaker 1: This port strike, all that and more coming up. I'm right, well,

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Speaker 1: that went well. Talking about the VP debate. Of course

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Speaker 1: I love politics. You love politics. Well, we kind of

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Speaker 2: And we watched these debates.

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Speaker 1: I personally I went home, sat down, my wife, my

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Speaker 2: And man, now you know this is me.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to tear the GOP apart any politician. There

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Speaker 1: I don't man worship, so you know it's me cynical Jesse.

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Speaker 1: That's the best debate for freemans I think.

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Speaker 2: I've ever probably seen in my life.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about, of course, jd Vance that for you

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Speaker 1: It's kind of apen to a couple clips in a moment,

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Speaker 2: Cool, collected, pleasant JD. Bands. Now I need to explain

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Speaker 1: There were red meat things that a lot of people

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Speaker 2: And look for me too.

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Speaker 1: Why if you're JD bans, why don't why don't you

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Speaker 1: say that? Well, just strategically stand that last night was

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Speaker 1: only only only about undecided voters. It's not about you,

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Speaker 1: I don't really like Donald Trump. I'm not comfortable. The

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Speaker 1: they're going forth. So JD Vance had to get up

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Speaker 1: That was the overall strategy for last night, and that's

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Speaker 1: political career shook the system to its core. And from

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Speaker 1: And of course that's why they made January sixth a

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Speaker 3: Would you again seek to challenge this year's election results,

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Speaker 4: Well, Nora, first of all, I think that we're focused

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Speaker 4: But I want to answer your question because you did

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Speaker 5: It is the threat of censorship.

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Speaker 1: That's an issue I'm not talking about for you or me.

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Speaker 1: I am really worried about January sixth. How do you

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Speaker 1: That's why he was constantly looking like this, constantly writing

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Speaker 1: The border was a central theme last night. Courtesy of Jdvans.

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Speaker 2: It should be the election year issue.

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Speaker 2: What primary?

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Speaker 1: I can't football song or even worse, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: He was in my church last time day.

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Speaker 1: He seemed really nice, Can we please start punishing goo

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm not going to go off on a tangent.

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Speaker 2: Boy, this is what he did.

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Speaker 7: And just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio does

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Senator. We have so much to get to, Margaret.

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Speaker 5: I think it's important turn out of the economy thing, Margaret.

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Speaker 5: So there's an application called.

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Speaker 4: The CBP one app where you can go on as

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Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously we can talk about that hideous Hag right

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Speaker 2: I already explain to you why they were over the top.

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Speaker 2: But JD.

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Speaker 1: Well done, sir, well done. And one final word on

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Speaker 1: Tim Walls. Look, I've I've lived in the gray area

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Speaker 2: It become friends with school shooters. I've seen it.

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Speaker 1: Obviously, he misspoke. That's what happens when you're nervous. Man,

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Speaker 2: What a great night.

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Speaker 8: We'll be back, Senator Vance.

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Speaker 7: The US did have a diplomatic deal with Iran to

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Speaker 7: He recently said, just five days ago, the US must

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Speaker 8: Did he make a mistake? You have one minute.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Margaret, diplomacy is not a dirty word.

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Speaker 4: And Governor Walts you blame Donald Trump, who has been

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Speaker 5: And the answer is you're running mate, not mine.

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump consistently made the world more secure.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good answer, Pretty truthful answer. Joining me now to

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Speaker 1: Israel and Civilization, Josh hammery Okay, Josh. Before we get

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Speaker 1: That's one of the better debate performances I've ever seen myself. Okay,

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Speaker 9: Jesse? Look, you know this part of the world very well.

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Speaker 2: Go handle their.

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Speaker 1: Business, all right, Josh, I cannot let you go without

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Speaker 9: The other case is just real quick. The Florida case

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Speaker 9: classified docs were waiting on an appeal at the eleven

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Speaker 9: Circuit base in Georgia. The New York case sentencing was

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Speaker 9: pushed until after the election. The other case, the Georgia case,

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Speaker 9: is actually going to come back on our radar on

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Speaker 9: the next two to three weeks as well, because the

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Speaker 9: core of appeals there in Georgia is going to reconsider

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Speaker 9: Fannie Willis's dismissal or lack prop So it's all happening, Jesse.

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Speaker 2: It's just a little bit more. In the background is

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Speaker 2: Josh Hammer.

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Speaker 1: His new book is Israel and Civilization. If you know

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Speaker 1: Josh like I do, I'm sure it will be wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Josh My friend. Appreciate you brother, all right? Speaking of Iran,

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Speaker 1: are they trying to murder Donald Trump? Looks like they are.

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Speaker 1: Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee is going to join us

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Speaker 1: next talk some hurricane flooding, Iran and other things. Now,

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Speaker 1: speaking of talk, let's talk about Pure Talk. Yeah, my

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Speaker 1: cell phoned company. I don't own ed. It's just I

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Speaker 1: love them for one. I love them because I save

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Speaker 1: so much money. We have four lines, me, wife, kids,

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Speaker 1: four lines. When I was with T Mobile, that's who

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Speaker 1: I had before Peretik, we would drop on one hundred

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Speaker 1: and forty eight bucks a month for cell phone service.

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Speaker 1: One hundred and forty eight dollars bill a month for

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Speaker 1: freaking cell phone service is crazy. My bill got cut

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Speaker 1: in half when I switched to Pure Talk. On top

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Speaker 1: of being the patriotic cell phone company that supports your values,

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Speaker 1: hires Americans, save you a fortune, and it's easy. You

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Speaker 1: can keep your phone, your number, you can get a

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Speaker 1: new one if you want to have those. But all

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Speaker 1: you have to do is go to puretalk dot com,

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Speaker 1: slash jessetv and switch.

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Speaker 2: So go switch. We'll be back.

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Speaker 3: Let's turn out to Hurricane Helene. The storm could become

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Speaker 3: one of the deadliest on record. More than one hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixty people are dead and hundreds more are missing.

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Speaker 3: Scientists say climate change makes these hurricanes larger, stronger, and

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Speaker 3: more deadly because of the historic rainfall.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, joining me now the great Senator Marsha Blackburn from

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Speaker 1: the State of Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Senator, It's so gross to.

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Speaker 1: Me how these people try to politicize tragedy like what

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Speaker 1: you're going through in the State of Tennessee right now.

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Speaker 1: It's just, honestly, it's inhumane the way they discuss it. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't a discussion about helping these poor people, and of

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Speaker 1: course had to tie back to a bunch of calmy

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Speaker 1: gobbly book about climate change.

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Speaker 2: It drives me freaking crazy.

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Speaker 10: Well, I was so surprised that the first thing she

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Speaker 10: did was talk about climate change and not talk about

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Speaker 10: the response of the federal government to what is a

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Speaker 10: unprecedented disaster, natural disaster event Jesse. You know, you see

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Speaker 10: the pictures and they're devastating, but when you were on

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Speaker 10: the ground and walking through this and visiting with people

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Speaker 10: and seeing that homes are gone, the foundation is not there,

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Speaker 10: roads and bridges are washed out and the amount of

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Speaker 10: response that is there. Again, the way that neighbors and

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Speaker 10: friends have come together to help those that are in

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Speaker 10: desperate need. And of course we're still trying to rescue people,

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Speaker 10: and we're still trying to find out who is dead

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Speaker 10: and who is alive, and they want to talk about

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Speaker 10: climate change. And indeed, it is so frustrating. And I

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Speaker 10: have been with the governor twice now to East Tennessee

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Speaker 10: to work on this. Some of our counties still do

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Speaker 10: not have a phone call from FEMA and we do

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Speaker 10: not know when FEMA is coming in.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe those counties should be more equitable. Everyone can

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Speaker 1: remember Kamala Harris saying this back in the day.

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Speaker 11: It is our lowest income communities and our communities of

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Speaker 11: color that are most impacted by these extreme conditions and

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Speaker 11: impacted by issues that are not of their own making.

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Speaker 11: And so I mean absolutely, and so we have to

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Speaker 11: address this in a way that is about giving resources

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Speaker 11: based on equity understanding that we fight for equality, but

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Speaker 11: we also need to fight for equity understanding and not

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Speaker 11: everyone starts out at the same place.

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Speaker 1: Senator, Obviously, these comments are gross. Why hasn't FEMA been everywhere?

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Speaker 1: I understand they can't be everywhere, and I understand it's

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Speaker 1: the government. It's gross, it's stupid, it's inefficient, that's the

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Speaker 1: nature of government. But it doesn't seem like they're that

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Speaker 1: hot on things. They just came out recently, in fact,

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Speaker 1: about an hour ago and said, sorry, we're fresh out

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Speaker 1: of money.

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Speaker 10: Really, the thing is our disaster emergency declaration was done

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Speaker 10: on Friday, shortly after this occurred. The Governor moved swiftly.

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Speaker 10: Senator Haggerdy and I moved swiftly, and then the application

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Speaker 10: was made Monday to change it to a major disaster.

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Speaker 10: We have communities in Upper East Tennessee where there are

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Speaker 10: entire communities that are gone. We have county mayors that

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Speaker 10: want to get this aid in our team, the National Guard,

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Speaker 10: our Highway Patrol, our local elected officials, our emergency management agencies,

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Speaker 10: our emergency operations centers. They are all going full steam ahead.

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Speaker 10: You have our churches and communities that have come together

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Speaker 10: to help these communities in need that are out helping

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Speaker 10: to debris, They're helping to repair roads, They're working to

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Speaker 10: get supplies into areas that are cut off. We have

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Speaker 10: helicopters that are taking supplies of food and water in

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Speaker 10: to keep people alive while because they're strengthed, these communities

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Speaker 10: are cut off and I forty is going to be

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Speaker 10: closed for quite a while. I twenty six. We've got

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Speaker 10: a bridge, both sides are out. You have other bridges,

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Speaker 10: five other bridges that are out. You have roads that

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Speaker 10: are damaged. So it is going to be necessary that

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Speaker 10: FEMA come in alongside these communities. We are hopeful that

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Speaker 10: more of our communities are going to hear from them,

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Speaker 10: and hear from them quickly, and that the aid that

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Speaker 10: should be going to individuals and businesses will get to

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Speaker 10: them quickly so that life can return to normal in

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Speaker 10: these communities.

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Speaker 1: Praying for you guys, Senator, I actually hate to move

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Speaker 1: off of this because of what you're going through, but

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Speaker 1: we do have to discuss some world affairs.

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Speaker 2: Iran Israel.

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Speaker 1: People are concerned, but they have a lot of reasons

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Speaker 1: to be concerned. Right now, where is all of this going,

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Speaker 1: Missiles raining down on Tel Aviv, It doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: it's slowing down, well.

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Speaker 10: It does not appear to be slowing down. And of

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Speaker 10: course Israel has the right to defend themselves, and I

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Speaker 10: am one of those that believes we should go in

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Speaker 10: and take out these oil terminals in Iran and are

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Speaker 10: not we but Israel should have the right to go

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Speaker 10: in and take out these oil terminals in Iran and

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Speaker 10: hit their pocket book. You know the sanctions that President

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Speaker 10: Donald Trump had on Iranian oil that worked. Iran was

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Speaker 10: broke during President Trump's time. They didn't have money to

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Speaker 10: spend funding their terrorist proxies because Iran is the world's

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Speaker 10: largest sponsor of terrorism, and they spend their money on

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Speaker 10: two things. It is funding terrorism and it is enriching

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Speaker 10: uranium because they want a nuclear weapon. So I believe

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Speaker 10: that Israel has the right to defend themselves. Israel would

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Speaker 10: do the world a favor by eliminating Hamas, eliminating Hezbola,

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Speaker 10: and we know that Israel is moving forward on their own.

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Speaker 1: Senator, speaking of Iran, another thing they spend their money on,

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Speaker 1: at least according to Donald Trump, is trying to murder him.

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Speaker 1: It is quite an eye popping thing to wake up

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Speaker 1: as an American and see that a foreign nation allegedly

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Speaker 1: has an assassination team or teams here trying to murder

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Speaker 1: the Republican nominee for president. I know you are limited

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Speaker 1: in what you're allowed to tell us, but what can

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Speaker 1: you tell us about this?

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Speaker 10: We know that AARN has pushed forward. They would they

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Speaker 10: have made the death threats to President Trump, to former

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Speaker 10: Secretary Pompeo, to Bolton, to Robert O'Brien. We are fully

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Speaker 10: aware of that, and of course these individuals are entitled

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Speaker 10: to Secret Service protection. And it is quite concerning to

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Speaker 10: us if there have been two assassination attempts on President Trump,

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Speaker 10: and the first attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania. Information has been

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Speaker 10: coming out very slowly on that. Congress has said it's

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Speaker 10: just been very difficult for us to get answers from them.

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Speaker 10: We're getting more answers about the situation in Florida, but

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Speaker 10: there again not quickly enough.

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Speaker 1: Senator, please keep the keep Tennessee going. We appreciate you

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Speaker 1: in your state very much and we will be praying

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Speaker 1: for all of you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I love Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: Man spent a lot of time there by forty shut down. Gosh,

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Speaker 1: I've spent I don't know how many hours on Tennessee's

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Speaker 1: just an amazing state, wonderful people, So please keep them

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Speaker 1: in your prayers, all right, Apparently we all need prayer well,

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Speaker 1: we do anyway, right, But the port strike is still

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Speaker 1: going forty eight hours. That's a big deal. What is

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Speaker 1: this strike all about? Is it just greedy workers? What

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Speaker 1: is the impact going to be? Let's talk to an

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Speaker 1: expert in this. My friend Ross Kennedy is the expert

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Speaker 1: on all this stuff, and he is about to get

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Speaker 1: you and me a lot smarter.

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Speaker 2: Next.

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Speaker 1: The port strike is a really, really, really big deal. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: with everything else going on between the debate and Israel,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the biggest deal for you and me right

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Speaker 1: now is the fact that all the ports on the

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Speaker 1: Eastern Seaboard are currently shut down. It's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everyone's oversimplifying this. It's not simple.

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Speaker 1: It's very complicated. And so what do we do? Well,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to Ross Kennedy about it, founder of fort

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Speaker 1: This Analysis. He's one of these supply chain national security

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Speaker 1: expert guys. Whenever I want to see ideas from someone

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Speaker 1: to make myself sound smart, I steal them from Ross Kennedy.

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Speaker 2: Ross, what's going on with the ports? Why are they

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Speaker 2: shut down?

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Speaker 12: Well, the upshot is is that the port owners and

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Speaker 12: the shipowners, the ocean carriers have had about three years

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Speaker 12: of warning to get negotiating with the International Longshoreman's Association

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Speaker 12: represents about eighty thousand members, forty five thousand of whom

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Speaker 12: are active longshortmen, and about thirty five different ports on

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Speaker 12: the East Coast and the Gulf Coast. The labor agreement

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Speaker 12: has been coming up, it's known to have been expiring

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Speaker 12: on September thirtieth, twenty twenty four for years, and they

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Speaker 12: never got their heads around how bad it's going to be.

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Speaker 12: At this point, the longshoremen have two key demands that

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Speaker 12: have not been met, and so they decided to As

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Speaker 12: of twelve oh one am yesterday on the first, they

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Speaker 12: struck and as of right now, all of those ports

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Speaker 12: are shut down and not moving cargo in and out.

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Speaker 2: Ross.

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Speaker 1: Why three years let's begin there. You mentioned they had

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Speaker 1: three years. They knew this was coming. This is not

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Speaker 1: some big shock. Three years and you're going to have

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Speaker 1: a big problem. And here we are October before an

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Speaker 1: election and everyone is on strike. Does this have something

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Speaker 1: to do with the election? Is just just people being

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Speaker 1: lazy and negligent. That happens. How can you see this

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Speaker 1: freight train coming for three years and not do anything

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Speaker 1: about it?

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Speaker 12: Well, the reason that I said three years is October

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Speaker 12: of twenty twenty one was really when the West Coast

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Speaker 12: supply chain crisis, the logistics connection out there, had really

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Speaker 12: come to a head. That was the peak of when

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Speaker 12: the most vessels were at anchor off the coast of

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Speaker 12: Los Angeles, Long Beach, Seattle, Oakland, and everybody even then

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Speaker 12: was talking about, my gosh, this is really bad now.

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Speaker 12: Number One, what happens if the congestion doesn't clear at

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Speaker 12: any of the ports. Number Two, what happened when the ILWU,

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Speaker 12: the West Coast counterpart to the ISLA, if their labor

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Speaker 12: contract negotiations in twenty two and twenty three don't go well,

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Speaker 12: And then what happens in twenty four if the East

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Speaker 12: Coast negotiations don't go well with those long shortmen. So

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Speaker 12: everybody was looking at in October of twenty one at

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Speaker 12: really what is the lay of the land over the

655
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Speaker 12: next thirty six to forty eight months of not only

656
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 12: COVID and supply chain congestion, but as well as long

657
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 12: short and labor. And even at that time I recall

658
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 12: having conversations with a couple of different key executives and

659
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 12: different ports authorities, you know, on the Golf Coast and

660
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Speaker 12: in the East Coast and me telling them, guys, you've

661
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 12: got to get ahead of this now. Your sticking points

662
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 12: are going to be you know, the fact that we're

663
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 12: coming out of COVID. These you know guys lost money

664
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Speaker 12: if they weren't at work, as well as what happens

665
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Speaker 12: if they go on strike and the role of automation

666
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Speaker 12: in the ports. You need to be working ahead of this,

667
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 12: and they just kind of hand waved it away and

668
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 12: said yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll cross that bridge when we

669
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Speaker 12: get to it. Right now, the house is on fire,

670
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 12: and that obviously wasn't done over the last you know,

671
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 12: twelve to eighteen months as the negotiation window opened.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna play.

673
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Speaker 1: I'm sure everyone has seen this already, but Harold Daggett,

674
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Speaker 1: he is the head of the longshortman union that is

675
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: currently on strike, and this video, which it was from

676
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Speaker 1: a little while ago, is going around who's going to.

677
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Speaker 2: Win here in the long run.

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Speaker 13: You're better off sitting down and let's get a contract

679
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 13: and let's move on with this world. And could today's world.

680
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 13: I'll cripple you. I will cripple you, and you have

681
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 13: no idea.

682
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Speaker 1: Ross I have been loudly complaining about this gentleman for

683
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: a couple of days, mainly because language like that turns

684
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Speaker 1: people against the workers. And this is not a simple

685
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: issue where one side is good and one side as bad,

686
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: as you have laid out several times, but this kind

687
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: of language publicly turns to public against you. How could

688
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: you be such a moron to run your mouth like that,

689
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: and you did it again after the strike, And what

690
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: is wrong with this guy?

691
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 12: Well, I think what you're seeing there is you know,

692
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 12: big picture of the arrogance of a lot of unions.

693
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 12: Knowing that you know, historically, particularly under Democrat administrations as

694
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 12: we have now with the Biden Harris administration, almost always,

695
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 12: you know, the federal government bends the knee, forces the

696
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 12: private sector to the table to acquiesce to the demands

697
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 12: of the union. And so number one that there is

698
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 12: very good, valid historical evidence that you know, they would

699
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 12: believe the same thing would happen again here. Number two

700
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 12: is is that Dagget himself is, as you can tell

701
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 12: by his accent, old school New York you know, East

702
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 12: Coast guy who has has very very strong ties to

703
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 12: organized crime in his past. And that's not just him personally.

704
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 12: That that's the longshoreman Union on the East Coast and

705
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 12: the Gulf Coast going back one hundred years, has had

706
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 12: these ties to various criminal underworlds, to the point that

707
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Speaker 12: in two thousand and five, the former president who you know,

708
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 12: who Daggett has succeeded of the ILA, had a meeting

709
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Speaker 12: with a Genevesei crime family you know, Genevesei mafia family

710
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 12: associate saying if you know, if and when you're gone,

711
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 12: I would I, as a representative of the Genevese family, so

712
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 12: to speak, would like to see how our Daggett become

713
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 12: the next president of the ISLA. And so as the

714
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 12: history of this individual end of the organization has kind

715
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 12: of begun to twist and turn in public. Now, you're

716
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 12: not dealing from a position of unions have historically been

717
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 12: pretty arrogant when it comes to their negotiations, because they

718
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 12: can be, but also the sort of entitlement and language

719
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 12: that emanates from someone who's occupied to a certain world

720
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 12: for a long, long period of time. You pick up

721
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 12: the patterns, you pick up the manner of speaking, you

722
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 12: pick up the tactics that you use as negotiations and

723
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 12: it comes through in a public setting. And so that's

724
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 12: why this individual, you know, awareness gold Chain, with his

725
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 12: nearly million dollar salary and compensation package, is able to

726
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 12: sit there and try to say, Hey, I'm the voice

727
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 12: of the everyman here. I'm the voice of these forty

728
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 12: five thousand you know, you know, beat down, underpaid, longshortman

729
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 12: who really, at the end of the day, are just

730
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 12: fighting an existential battle against the automation of ports and

731
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 12: trying to make more money in the meantime and not

732
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 12: really thinking about the impact that their stance has on

733
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 12: the US economy on all these other companies. So it's

734
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 12: really the wrong man, the wrong tone in the current

735
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 12: time and place, and I think they've really misread the room.

736
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Speaker 12: I think there's going to be a huge amount of

737
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Speaker 12: pressure from Wall Street, from a lot of the big

738
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Speaker 12: companies that are on Wall Street that rely on imports.

739
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Speaker 12: Companies like Apple, companies like Facebook, companies like Walmart, target

740
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 12: these companies that their supply chains are built overseas, all

741
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 12: the auto companies, These forty five thousand guys have chosen

742
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 12: this man as the voice of their organization, and he's

743
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 12: telling not only Americans and politicians, I.

744
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: Will cripple you.

745
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Speaker 12: He's telling all of the huge companies that depend on

746
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 12: this as well, that have their own union constituencies, and

747
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 12: it's setting up a really nasty inside baseball type of

748
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 12: event happening here at the political level and at the

749
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Speaker 12: economic level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny to hear you say that. I

751
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: said the same thing last night.

752
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: He sounds like a guy who's used to negotiating with

753
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: the New York City mayor in nineteen seventy five with

754
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: the Gambino family standing behind him, And at ain't nineteen

755
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: seventy five, And now you look terrible. I said the

756
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: same thing. I'm so glad I was right about that.

757
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: All right, Ross what I know, you don't have a

758
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 1: crystal ball. I'm not going to ask you how long

759
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: this is going to go, But everyone watching this does

760
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: want to know what impact might they expect on their

761
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: own lives. Look, my wife was with her girlfriends at

762
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: the big box stores yesterday stalking up on things just

763
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: in case.

764
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Speaker 2: What can we what's coming.

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Speaker 12: Well, when you look at the companies that have you know,

766
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 12: what you would call multi shore supply chain operations, So

767
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 12: that would be a Walmart, for example, that does have

768
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 12: the ability to shift cargo with some delay and cost.

769
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 12: But and have been a lot of these companies have

770
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 12: been pushing back. You'll see more vessel arrivals to the

771
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 12: West Coast, you know, as a ratio of arrivals to

772
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 12: the East Coast and the Gulf Coast. So even though

773
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 12: they have distribution centers, even though they have operations that

774
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 12: are internally linked to assuming that a Savannah or a

775
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 12: Norfolk or Baltimore, a Houston and New York is their

776
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 12: primary point of entry, they do have some optionality in

777
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 12: the flop in their networks to be able to push

778
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 12: them things around and bring them in different ways, get

779
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 12: them across the country, whatever it may be. So you'll

780
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 12: see some you know, intermittent shortages of certain things with

781
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 12: the big guys, with the companies that are really at

782
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 12: the most risk, the jobs that are really at the

783
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 12: most risk here are the people that are really tied

784
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 12: to one port, one location that's impacted by the strike.

785
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 12: They will feel this a lot more strong because if

786
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 12: they have one warehouse and distribution and fulfillment center in

787
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 12: a Baltimore, for example, every vessel that sits at sea

788
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 12: and is not able to call Baltimore and be unloaded.

789
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 12: It is likely that a lot of their inventory that

790
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 12: they have to have as a company is sitting on

791
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 12: that ship. Because we're still a lot of companies still

792
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 12: have learned the lessons of just in time being a

793
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 12: weakness from the COVID supply chain crunch.

794
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: They only have the cash to.

795
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 12: Order when they need to order, and that means they

796
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 12: have a sensitive, a rival window of getting that in.

797
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 12: So it's those companies that are really linked geographically to

798
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 12: a single port that's impacted by the strike, those are

799
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 12: the ones that are going to really feel it the

800
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 12: most strongly, as well as the trucking companies that operate

801
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 12: just in that one harbor or in that one port.

802
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: Gosh, I didn't I don't know why I didn't think

803
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 2: of it.

804
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about the trucking company as as

805
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: I was worried about the trains and everything else. Of course,

806
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: it's going to freaking affect the trucking Okay, ross the

807
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: final question. They seem like they're a million miles apart.

808
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: That's what they see like. You discuss how they've workers

809
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: paid thirty five thousand dollars a year less than their

810
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: people on the West Coast, they're worried about automation, which

811
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: sounds to me like you're fighting against the ocean. You

812
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: can't avoid that. But they sound a million miles apart.

813
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: But that's how these things always sound in the beginning.

814
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: And then you wake up one morning and there's a deal.

815
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: Are we going to get a deal anytime soon? Do

816
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: you think?

817
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 12: Well, it's hard to see exactly that will happen, but

818
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 12: I know what indicators I guess we would look forward

819
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 12: to say, Okay, we're getting close. Number one is is

820
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 12: that the marine terminal operators, the ports, and the ocean

821
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 12: carriers have to find a way to be able to

822
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 12: legally pass as much of this disruptiveness and additional cost

823
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 12: on to the consumer as possible. In this case, the

824
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 12: importers and exporters who pay the bills on every single container,

825
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 12: So as soon as they have a strategy for that

826
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 12: that you know, legally it can pass muster according to

827
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 12: the fairtime you know maritime Federal Maritime Commission rules, which

828
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 12: you know, these extra fees are very much something the

829
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 12: FMC has been watching over the last couple of years

830
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 12: because of the price gouging that the ports and carriers

831
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 12: engaged in during COVID. As soon as they figure that

832
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 12: out and they say, okay, we know we can pass

833
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 12: the cost along, then you will see a deal happen.

834
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 12: And the biggest reason for that is is that the

835
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 12: longshoremen are an aging population of workers that historically only

836
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 12: recruits internally, meaning you got to be a friend or

837
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 12: a family member to get a job as a long shortman.

838
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 12: It's not like you or I could walk off the

839
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 12: street with no connections to the port and be able

840
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 12: to get a job. The Wire season two showed us

841
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 12: exactly how a lot of these things work. It's a

842
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 12: very close knit and sstuous circle. So that reducing population,

843
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 12: the demographic decline, if you will, of the long shorm

844
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 12: in population, is going to drive automation. So that is

845
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 12: almost a moot point, and the long shoremen are fighting

846
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 12: tooth and nail against that as long as they can

847
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 12: because it only impacts this generation of them and really

848
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 12: nobody that follows. So as soon as you see the

849
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 12: shipowners and the ports figure out a way to pass

850
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 12: along all these extra fees and costs associated with the

851
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 12: new higher rates of labor, that's when you'll see a

852
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 12: deal happen. Because the automation issue is going to take

853
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 12: care of itself in five or ten years.

854
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: No doubt, Ross I could keep you for an hour,

855
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: my brother. I appreciate you so much. Thanks for making

856
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: us smart. All right, lighten the mood next. Alright, it's

857
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: time to lighten the mood. And slapstick lightens my mood.

858
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: When a cheerleader takes out a football player, I think

859
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: it's hilarious.

860
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 2: A stable