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Speaker 1: the met stub podcast, episode number twelve. Of course, of

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Speaker 1: course you got your co hosts. We're off to a

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Speaker 2: So you just said it twice. You said they weren't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well now they hear it because I need to

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Speaker 1: draftneck Mark, Mark Luino. Jeter had no range on Twitter

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Speaker 1: James Chiano to talk about Mets baseball. We've had a

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Speaker 1: pretty rambunctious and rowdy week going on in New York

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Speaker 1: Mets baseball, a lot of games going on. We had

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Speaker 1: there is actually a pretty good decent amount to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Some good, some bad. We have the first shakeup of

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff. Chili Davis has been canned along with

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Speaker 1: Tom Slater. Yeah, Slaton. I don't know who this guy is.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been canned, so that's always a good sign.

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Speaker 1: We talked about Hi in the last episode. He was

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Speaker 1: a big reason as to why the Mets were able

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Speaker 1: this wasn't necessarily the cleanest series, there is some positive

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Speaker 1: things to take out of the games that we've seen

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Speaker 1: from the Mets, and of course, as they've done all

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Speaker 1: year long, they've pitched really well, which is fantastic to

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Speaker 1: see because of course that was probably one of our

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Speaker 1: games to talk about the Chili Davis news as well

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Speaker 1: as previewing the Arizona Diamondback series. You guys know where

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Speaker 1: podcast you'll find the video form there. James, that was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say you went to a lot

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Speaker 2: the first time all year you've done that.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're building the intro here. We're trying to

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Speaker 1: become a little more professional. I've been listening to some

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Speaker 1: more podcasts myself, and I'm learning what they're doing, learning

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Speaker 1: the craft here. But I'm ready to just get talking

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Speaker 1: into Mets baseball. I'm sure you are too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it, brother. I mean, this was a

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Speaker 1: One, which Game one is weird again, just another weird game.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, Lukeazy is someone I was outspokenly worried about preseason,

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Speaker 1: He's just I think our fears or I should really

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Speaker 1: A game that was like that was so frustrating to

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Speaker 2: A double heather, a rain out of coach being fired.

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Speaker 2: But still to talk about Luke Kez, like that third

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Speaker 1: Even then it actually was worse. It was one two still,

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Speaker 2: Time literally and I want to harp on this, I

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand the idea of having a left hand

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Speaker 2: Thought it was a great depth move and it's proved

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's those are That's I couldn't have said it

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Speaker 2: I don't remember Keith. I don't know. If I were

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Speaker 1: And that's just like, that's such a team that like

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Speaker 2: To this, good for him. And that's the end of

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Speaker 2: I guess you don't want team doesn't want to play

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Speaker 1: Also, why bring him to Saint Louis then if he

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Speaker 2: It's in humane.

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Speaker 1: That's the Jerry manual, specially Willy Randolph special.

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Speaker 2: Like it seemed like there seemed like there were a

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Speaker 1: The writing on the wall for me seems like Rojas

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Speaker 1: I think they're saying, Chili's gone first, there's your warning.

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Speaker 2: a couple minutes on Quidalbomb because this guy has an interesting,

433
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Speaker 2: interesting background.

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Speaker 1: Take take take front stage here, James were giving you

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Speaker 1: the quadal Bomb forum for our viewers.

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Speaker 2: Great. I love that, But Quadlebom I very hard to

437
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Speaker 2: find information on the guy, so I stalked his LinkedIn

438
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Speaker 2: nice pretty pretty hardcore, and this guy was He was

439
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Speaker 2: a baseball player at Amhurst. He ended up playing Major

440
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Speaker 2: League baseball. But yeah, while he was in college, he

441
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Speaker 2: was a liberal arts major duel with a Spanish major.

442
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Speaker 2: So that's a thinker. I kind of fuck with a thinker.

443
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Speaker 2: That's a guy who likes to think about things, considered things.

444
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,240
Speaker 2: Here's all perspectives. He understands information knowledge. That's cool. He

445
00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,280
Speaker 2: had a quick cup of coffee in the majors four

446
00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,280
Speaker 2: or five years. Tigers and Orioles, pretty bad franchises, YadA, YadA, YadA,

447
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Speaker 2: this and that. After he left the league, he actually

448
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Speaker 2: took a job in like the private sector for a year.

449
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Speaker 2: He was a production as assistant at E Network E.

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Speaker 2: The Entertainment e E E. Exclamation point, Wow, weird, bizarre.

451
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Speaker 2: And then he seems like he did that for a

452
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Speaker 2: year and was like, just this, can't she got back

453
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Speaker 2: into baseball. Seems like that was a very quick movie

454
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Speaker 2: he made. He was a volunteer assistant coach at the

455
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Speaker 2: community college in Los Angeles for two seasons immediately after this.

456
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Speaker 2: So this man, after playing in the major leagues with

457
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Speaker 2: the college degree, left a job that probably was making

458
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Speaker 2: a decent money to grind as a community college assistant coach.

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Speaker 1: A baseball guy.

460
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Speaker 2: That's huge. I love that. And then it seems like

461
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Speaker 2: that kind of reignited his passion or maybe he learned

462
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Speaker 2: some thing, some tricks that was kind of at the

463
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Speaker 2: same time when like data in baseball was starting to

464
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Speaker 2: become a thing in the like the late two thousands.

465
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Speaker 2: That's not not like closer to three thousand, but like

466
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Speaker 2: tous a E tw thousand, nine thousand, ten, whatever. He

467
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Speaker 2: became a private hitting instructor. He had a conditioning based

468
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Speaker 2: program a company I forgot the name was, but he

469
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,960
Speaker 2: went to people and privately trained them. He used those

470
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Speaker 2: connections works his way up through like club and youth coaching,

471
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Speaker 2: all the way through those ranks until he was an

472
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Speaker 2: analyst at Duke hitting analysts for Duke University, a pretty

473
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Speaker 2: good baseball program. It's twenty sixteen. Then he caught the

474
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Speaker 2: job from after one year Duke as the Mariner's hitting coordinator,

475
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Speaker 2: which I think is the LinkedIn term for hitting coach,

476
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Speaker 2: unless he was an organizational coordinator, which is possible because

477
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,960
Speaker 2: then he was hired by the Mets this off season

478
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Speaker 2: to be the director of hitting for the entire organization.

479
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 2: That is a crazy, crazy job. That's very information based.

480
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Speaker 2: You have to understand the way the physical science work,

481
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Speaker 2: you have to understand video analytics. That is a serious,

482
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Speaker 2: serious gig, and it almost feels like becoming the major

483
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Speaker 2: league hitting coach is a step back from that role,

484
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Speaker 2: which is kind of funny because it seems like they

485
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Speaker 2: might just be in a pinch and will re relift

486
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,680
Speaker 2: Qualla bomb up in the off season to a more

487
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Speaker 2: organizational director type role unless he well to the major league team.

488
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Speaker 2: But I thought that's a very interesting background and very

489
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Speaker 2: very very different from Chilie Davis's. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I think it even goes back to the whole

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Speaker 1: thing of like preparation too. Like you said, like to

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Speaker 1: be a coordinator of an entire organization, and you have

493
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Speaker 1: to be able to watch a video and be able

494
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Speaker 1: to dissect that video and break it down, because if

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Speaker 1: you're directing the hitting philosophy for an entire organization, you're

496
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Speaker 1: not just talking about Major League Baseball. You're talking about

497
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Speaker 1: the sixteen year olds we get from the Dominican Republic.

498
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Speaker 1: You're talking about the first round draft picks from college. Like,

499
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Speaker 1: there are so many different things that you have to

500
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Speaker 1: be able to handle. So clearly it seems like the

501
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Speaker 1: Mets trust that this guy has an idea of what

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Speaker 1: hitters should be doing, or what hitters should be looking like,

503
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Speaker 1: and what their approach should be in order to be

504
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Speaker 1: in the best place to be successful. So I really

505
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Speaker 1: like that. I think they also did mention that this

506
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Speaker 1: is just gonna be interim for him. I think it's

507
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Speaker 1: very much accepted that he's going to go back to

508
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Speaker 1: his full time role after the season. They'll get someone

509
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Speaker 1: else to be there.

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Speaker 2: So let's think about the word you use, their philosophy,

511
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Speaker 2: like this guy's handling hitting philosophy like that is a

512
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Speaker 2: that's a wide ranging concept. That's a very difficult job

513
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Speaker 2: to handle.

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Speaker 1: And this goes into a little bit of the Donnie

515
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Speaker 1: Stevenson talk now because you put it like it makes

516
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Speaker 1: the Donnie stuff a little weird now because Donnie Stevenson

517
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Speaker 1: was clearly like an indirect shot at Chili Davis. It

518
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Speaker 1: felt like it had to be right.

519
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Speaker 2: Possibly a ricochet shot the whole like the team hasn't

520
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 2: really mentioned him much now in these last two three

521
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Speaker 2: days since Chili was let go, there's been not much

522
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Speaker 2: less more on social media and nothing else with interviews

523
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Speaker 2: after the games. That was a weekend two. The guys

524
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Speaker 2: are having some fun. I get that, but it's got

525
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Speaker 2: kind of mum of the Donnie Stevens in front, which

526
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Speaker 2: is a little bit bizarre.

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Speaker 1: It's just weird that they were so Donnie Donnie Donnie,

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Speaker 1: and then Chili got fired and everyone was upset. All

529
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Speaker 1: the players were hurt, and that's understandable, like, I'm sure

530
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Speaker 1: you like the guy. Whatever he is as a hitting coach,

531
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Speaker 1: it seems like as a man in the clubhouse, everybody

532
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Speaker 1: seemed to enjoy his presence. But the whole Donnie thing

533
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Speaker 1: almost feels like it was a shot at Chili, even

534
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Speaker 1: though he was their guy. I don't know, it's so bizarre.

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Speaker 2: It it could even have been like an indiuendo that

536
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Speaker 2: Chili made to be like, oh yea, I don't think

537
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Speaker 2: like these guys. See what goes on in the media.

538
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 2: Everyone hears everything. Yeah like this, I'm I don't like,

539
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Speaker 2: we don't prefer we don't have a good approach, Like

540
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Speaker 2: here's an approach, coach, let's make up approach. Coach him

541
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Speaker 2: with Chili good. I don't know. It's just very peculiar.

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Speaker 2: And even after game two of this series now, which

543
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Speaker 2: we'll get into next, they asked Rojas about what it

544
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Speaker 2: was like for the team to start hitting a little bit,

545
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Speaker 2: and that was game three because after the same game

546
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Speaker 2: of double Heather and maybe in between the double Heather,

547
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Speaker 2: I don't remember exactly, but to talk to me Ross

548
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Speaker 2: talk to the media, and he specifically mentioned the team

549
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Speaker 2: had a better.

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Speaker 1: Approach, which is something that you haven't really heard Rojas

551
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Speaker 1: talk about all year.

552
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think I've ever heard that word come

553
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Speaker 2: other Roa's mouth, And that's probably nothing, but that's a

554
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: little bit weird. Like I don't like Rojas has seen

555
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: the writing on the wall now. He's a savvy guy.

556
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Speaker 2: He's been managing teams for a long time, albeit not

557
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Speaker 2: in the major leagues, not in New York. His father

558
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 2: was a very accomplished major league baseball manager. This is

559
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: something that this just very Mets. This is very Mets.

560
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Speaker 2: These weird like things going on, these like sideshow acts,

561
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Speaker 2: which I was really hoping wouldn't be a part of

562
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Speaker 2: the Mets anymore. I even like texted you about this

563
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: and I was like, the Sandy Alderson like regime now

564
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 2: is just it's getting more and more confusing. I feel like, yeah,

565
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Speaker 2: it seems kind of weird. It just seems kind of

566
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Speaker 2: weird because.

567
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Speaker 1: Because now it seems like Zach Scott because he was

568
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Speaker 1: has he been announced as the full time GM or

569
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Speaker 1: they said that he's gonna eventually step back and do

570
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Speaker 1: a little bit less and they're gonna get someone to

571
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Speaker 1: fill the actual role that Jared Porter was supposed to have.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I truthfully don't even know. I don't even recall it.

573
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Speaker 1: And it seems like Zack Scott is basically taking the

574
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Speaker 1: bull by the horns here and saying, fuck this shit,

575
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Speaker 1: I'm doing what I want to do now, because it

576
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Speaker 1: seems like he wanted Chili out and he wanted the

577
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Speaker 1: slater Slayton I don't even know what his name is,

578
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Speaker 1: guy out, and he put in the dudes that he

579
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Speaker 1: feels are are you know, capable of doing the job.

580
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Speaker 1: The Mets front office, as good as we thought it

581
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Speaker 1: was going to be, has been a little murky. I

582
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Speaker 1: don't know, it's been a lott confused.

583
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the moment that your general

584
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Speaker 2: manager is fired on like right just with your backup

585
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Speaker 2: against spring training, it kind of say that there's going

586
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: to be a little bit of haphazardous in your front

587
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: office for at least this coming season. We knew this

588
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 2: going in. I didn't really think he'd be in the

589
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 2: forefront with strong ownership like Steve Cohen and with a

590
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 2: team that I thought would be playing much better. But

591
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: when a team's playing poorly, people look around. People need

592
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: to write stories, people need to talk about stuff. These

593
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: kind of things aren't going to be an issue at

594
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Speaker 2: least until this team gets hot and there's no way

595
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: to get around.

596
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Speaker 1: Something to keep an eye out for. Is just what

597
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Speaker 1: the decision making is going to be is because now

598
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Speaker 1: it seems like the philosophy is clear. Analytics.

599
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Speaker 2: We're going analytical, Yes, we're going data information. This is

600
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Speaker 2: going to be a cunning edge twenty first century baseball

601
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Speaker 2: team for now and forever, and I support that honestly.

602
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Speaker 1: Listen, if it wins me baseball games, which it does

603
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Speaker 1: for a lot of other teams, I'm cool. So winnos

604
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Speaker 1: games play better baseball, let's do it, which leads us

605
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Speaker 1: down into Game two, which wasn't.

606
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Speaker 2: Better baseball, not better basis, This game.

607
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: Was gross bad game, Like Kuwang Young Kim looked about

608
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Speaker 1: as uncomfortable as a starter has really looked in a

609
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: long time against the Mets, but also didn't get hurt.

610
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was such a lock that Quangong Kim was

611
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: going to keep the Mets like that was so going

612
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: to happen. I also want to say about this game,

613
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Speaker 2: I'm tired of double headers. I really I started. I'm

614
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 2: sorry to really not like the seventh inning thing. I

615
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: never I was kind of indifferent to it. I was like, whatever,

616
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: get more games in, keep arms off the picture, keep

617
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: innings off the picture's arms. That's okay. But there's like

618
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Speaker 2: this weird palpable stress that begins in like the bottom

619
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Speaker 2: of the fourth in a seven inning game. You're like,

620
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Speaker 2: I don't know how I'm supposed to feel. You're trying

621
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Speaker 2: to like do the ratios in your head, like how

622
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: many things do I have left? Winning? Is this and nine?

623
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Speaker 2: I don't like it all happens much too quick.

624
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the fourth inning should never be stressful in a

625
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: baseball game. And the fact that that's basically the halfway

626
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: point is torture, absolute tortures.

627
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Speaker 2: It just feels very weird.

628
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Speaker 1: I just it feels rushed, and baseball is not a

629
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Speaker 1: rush sport.

630
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: It feels very rushed. Things are happening too quickly. I

631
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: don't have the fourth and the fifth inning are supposed

632
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Speaker 2: to be like a calm walk in the park, like

633
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: some kind of mattinee, Like the people are supposed to

634
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Speaker 2: be lacking the fourth and fifth inning. I'm supposed to

635
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Speaker 2: get into the game before the later innings. It's too

636
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Speaker 2: much happening. But one cool thing that happened. I think

637
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Speaker 2: Marcus Stroman listens to this podcast because he heard what

638
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 2: I was saying about using his slyer more, and he

639
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 2: focused on that pitch with one of his best addings

640
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 2: of the year. In Game two. He threw forty eight

641
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: sliders the other day. That's a lot more than any

642
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 2: of his pitch That's a lot, almost forty percent of

643
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Speaker 2: the total pitches he threw, So forty eight to forty nine,

644
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: he almost threw a hundred. Yeah, yeah, YadA whatever, big

645
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: slider guy, and I love that he got nine whiffs

646
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: on the slider over twenty six swings. That's thirty five

647
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Speaker 2: percent clip as a elite for one single pitch elite.

648
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: And he still was loving the sinker. Slithing to the

649
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 2: sinker made up eighty four percent of his total pitches worked,

650
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: got off contact with the sinker, got whissed with the slyder,

651
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: worked incredibly. I'd still love love to see him use

652
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: the four seamer more. He threw it, I think four

653
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: or five times. He got two swings on it. Both

654
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: those swings were whiffs. That's a piece I'd love to

655
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: seeing incorporated. Let him come with his own rate pace.

656
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: He's doing good things. He knows what's going on. Throne

657
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 2: has been a big boon to this team so far

658
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: this year. He's not got enough credit.

659
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: No, he's looking really strong. And just even more credit

660
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: to Jeremy Hefner again. He keeps sprinkling his magic all

661
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: over these pitchers and you can tell they come now

662
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: to the Mets or wherever Jeremy Hefner has been now

663
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: in the last three years, including with the Twins, and

664
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: you see he just makes pitchers better.

665
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: And how awful the Twins pitching has been since he

666
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 2: left is kind of terrible. They stink this year, terrible

667
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 2: awful team. I might I just kind of had a

668
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: brain bleast. I've been thinking about getting new Mets terra

669
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: as recently. Lindor's a little too cold by the jersey

670
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: right now. I might get half new jersey throw I'm

671
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: trying can find one of those. That's what I support.

672
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: The coaching staff. I love the coaches.

673
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: Get a Qudal bomb too. While you're at it.

674
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 2: I might get a Qualle bomb too. I'll run with

675
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: the pitching coach and they hitting goes. This team starts

676
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: hitting with Quala bomb. This guy's showing good process. Those

677
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: are my guys, I'm really confident of the Mets two

678
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: positional coaches right now.

679
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely good signs. We all saw Jacob Barnes

680
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: look good again.

681
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: Good, he looks good, Jake. Something is actually happening at

682
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: Jacob bar Maybe this guy just needs to throw.

683
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: Maybe that's all it was. Is that ten days well, actually,

684
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: let's say, shocker, ten days off in between appearances is

685
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 1: not good for a pitcher.

686
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: He really could have fooled me. But that color he

687
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: has is it's freaking cutting. I think it's cutting that

688
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 2: it's basically slide at this point. But he still throws

689
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: like almost ninety miles an hour, like he touches ninety

690
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: eighty eighty nine sometimes. So it's kind of like the

691
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 2: new slother where it's like more controllable than a slider.

692
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: Cuts a little more in a color, but it's still

693
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 2: classified as a color, and it breaks almost three inches

694
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: more than the league average color. He yeah, he almost

695
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: six inches of break five point eight exactly, which is

696
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: the eleventh most for any color in the league. A

697
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: few spots ahead of you, Darvish, who has a very

698
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: good color. Yeah, like this, actually this is a little pitch.

699
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: This a little pitch. This guy could be something competent

700
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: the rest of the season, which.

701
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: Is, yeah, we want this guy to be bad or

702
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: good as you know, much as we gave him crap

703
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the season for being terrible and

704
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: said he was awful and didn't want to see him again.

705
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: Keep proving me wrong, Jacob Barnes, I would love to

706
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: be wrong about you. Please.

707
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 2: It was emotional response. It happens.

708
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 1: It's we're Mets fans, We're gonna we're gonna slip up

709
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: every once in a while. But the big slip up

710
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: of this game, of course, and that's just ah god,

711
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: I hate this so much. I hate to even bring

712
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: it up. But Lindor's error. Man, Yeah, he's.

713
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: A backbreaker, real backbreaker.

714
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: He is, Like I love him. I still love Francis

715
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: School Indoor, but oh man, it's just it's not good

716
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: in Francisco Indoor, New York Mets town right now.

717
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: It's not gonna at all. That error sucked and every

718
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: he kind of saw like the whole team deflate, like

719
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: kind of with Francisco when that happened, because he not

720
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: he's emotional leader. Yet he hasn't been here long enough

721
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: but everyone wants him to do better. Everyone knows how

722
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: seriously he's taking these struggles, like it's very clear that

723
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: he's wearing this his play on his sleeve on a

724
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: daily basis, as he will wear the good play when

725
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: that happens. And that was just such a bad air

726
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: and they got burned for it.

727
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the young home run is lock in

728
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: a Mets series.

729
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: It was gonna happen. We definitely called it. I think

730
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 2: we called six home runs, so we under he understepped

731
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 2: our projections, which we lost four innings of baseball, so

732
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 2: there's no telling how many he would have hit. But

733
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: that was just that was so gonna That was just

734
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: so gonna happen. That one felt more obvious than they

735
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: are now. The home run after the fake felt well,

736
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: that was.

737
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: That was the nail on the coffin. That was the

738
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: al right, move on to game two, you know, Game

739
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: two of the double header, Game three of the series.

740
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm done with this game. That's pretty much it. There

741
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: wasn't many redeemable things from Game two, As we said,

742
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: it was just a gross game. Now, Game two of

743
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: the double header, we got some interesting stuff. We saw

744
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: the first ever use of an opener really for the

745
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: Mets with Miguel Castro, and then we also got to

746
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: see Jordaniya Momoto make his Mets debut. And that's your boy,

747
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: of course, so I know you want to talk about it.

748
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, another one of my boys. I mean, I have

749
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: no idea how it worked in this game. It just worked.

750
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: We put out a punt lineup and we use we

751
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: had Giordaniamodo following Miguel Castro, which none of that makes

752
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: sense from baseball perspective. You use that configuration outside the

753
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 2: park baseball, you'd get annihilated ten times out of ten.

754
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: But it just freaking worked. I thought it was weird

755
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: to use Castro as the opener rather than a different reliever,

756
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: just because he's one of the better relievers and I

757
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 2: would like to use him in like a high leverage

758
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: spot and like the six or seventh innings the game

759
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: like this. But it worked. It worked. Whatever it worked,

760
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,479
Speaker 2: don't care, ya, Modo found a way, my guy. I

761
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: have no clue how. I think it's funny that he's

762
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: still using his Marlin's glove with the Meds genesis. Cabrera

763
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: was doing the same thing today where he had a

764
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: teal glove and you're like, oh, for Marlin, it's like

765
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: you can pick the guys out of a lineup, which

766
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 2: is funny. But in two thirds inning, two and two

767
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: thirds innings, yeah, mother only got two whiffs, which is

768
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: like shockingly low.

769
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just doesn't have stuff to get whiffs.

770
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, he gave up four hard hit balls, which is

771
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: very high compared to those whifs and those innings. That's

772
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: an unsustainable, unsustainable way to pitch, but which is cool,

773
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: very different than what we talked about with Reed Foley

774
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: and Luke Casey. Is he mitched mixed sitwab mitched, he

775
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: mitched it. He mixed six pitches in just two and

776
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: two thirds innings as a shocking number of PEO.

777
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of making it's kept Yamamoto relevant or

778
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: around in Major league baseball. Is that Okay, he doesn't

779
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: have any plus pitch by any means, not even close.

780
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: Everything is about average or worse. But he has six

781
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: of them, so he does keep you on your toes

782
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: a little bit there.

783
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: It's crazy. You kind of need to do shit like

784
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: that when your stuff isn't very good, Like he's not

785
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: Kevin Gousman who throws two pitches and has become one

786
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: of the better pitchers in baseball, because one's a ninety

787
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: eight mile an hour fastball, one's a splitter that starts

788
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: at your belt and into your toes. Like, that's not

789
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 2: what Jerniyamo is gonna do. But like even the first

790
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: two pitches threw of the game, it was very interesting.

791
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: It was a right handed hitter and the right handed pitcher.

792
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: He threw a two seam and like a cover or

793
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: a slider, and he put them in the exact same

794
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: spot on the outside corner. And one was against Tyler

795
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: O'Neal and one just barely Nick the corner called strike,

796
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: and then one faded away for a string strike. And

797
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this guy's crafty. I'll give him

798
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: the crafty label as of right now. And this is

799
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: a novelty that could actually work for not for a

800
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: short period of time.

801
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: Now, I'm not sure how your Young Motors final line

802
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: look here. I'm I'm gonna look it up as we're going,

803
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: but I know in the pass he's had huge control problems.

804
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: And for a guy again who doesn't have good stuff,

805
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: that's kind of where you go, What do you do

806
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: for me? What did he end up doing control wise

807
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: in this game. Did he like walks wise.

808
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: Because he I think he had one strikeout if him

809
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: not this, he.

810
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: Actually did not walk a single batter in his two

811
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: and two thirds things, which is great because he has

812
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: been a guy who has had issue as walks for

813
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: his career. He is like a one to four whip.

814
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean he gives up a lot of hits, but

815
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: he also gives up with a lot of walks. I

816
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: mean he had a five point six walk per nine

817
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty four point one in twenty nineteen. That's

818
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: unsustainable for guy who is.

819
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: The interesting thing is if you look back at in

820
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 2: the minor leagues, he did not have many walks ever

821
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: until he got to double A and he was having

822
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 2: like two which three. But he maybe could settle into

823
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: a way we're talking about Jeremy halfn to Sprinkling the

824
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: ferry Dust Love the fairy Dust gets through three innings

825
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: a week, three ings a week, Jordan three.

826
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: A week in games that aren't particularly close, I'm cool

827
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: with that.

828
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, or just games where we just need to get lucky,

829
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: because I kind of got lucky in this game. The bed,

830
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: the bench hitters, bench hitters hit.

831
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, the bench hitters hit. We got Pilar, all

832
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: the guys. I did it again.

833
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: That that r home run was ridiculous. That was he.

834
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: I don't know where sick play at the end of

835
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: the game too, made a couple sick plays. I think

836
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: those are the Derek Jeter specials where you don't have

837
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: a lot of range, so when you go in the

838
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: hole and show off the arm, it looks really cool,

839
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: but really it's not that cool. Because he made an

840
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: error today where I was like, would today Thursday afternoon.

841
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: I don't know when you're listening to this, probably Friday

842
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: for the listeners at home. But he was waiting for

843
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 2: the VR era to come, but waiting for it all year.

844
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: The guy's just starkling out a great fielder. But like

845
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: one thing I kind of want to touch on in

846
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: Game three a little bit is Tomas Nido. He's that's

847
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: kind of my guy. He's been hitting kinder well, yes.

848
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: And we talked about in a previous episode. He had

849
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: been a good hitter in the minors before he was

850
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: regarded as a good hitting catching prospect when he was younger.

851
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: He's always looked not particularly great at the plate. You

852
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: know the last three seasons with the Mets, but we

853
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: saw a little bit of it last year he was

854
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: swinging the bat a little better, and he's continued in

855
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one doing something.

856
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: He puts the bat in the ball like. I wouldn't

857
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: hate him getting more at it.

858
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: I was just about to say that. I was like,

859
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: the way mccannon is playing offensively, you gotta get Nito.

860
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: I think, a few more at bats until he's until

861
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: he proves otherwise, get him more at bats.

862
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: James mcannon has always been a platoon catcher his entire career.

863
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: I don't know how we could have possibly thought that

864
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: we should give him like one hundred and twenty one

865
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty game role and he was succeeding it.

866
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: He's a great defender. Needa's also a great defender. These

867
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: guys both received the ball very well. Seems a pitching

868
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: staff likes throwing am both of those guys, but neither

869
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: just putting more bad in the ball right now. And McCann,

870
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: so help me god, he has come up with the

871
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: bases loaded every single bat this season, every single unbelievable.

872
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: It's like it's freaking crazy.

873
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: For some reason, the eight. The eighth spot is just

874
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: hot for bases loaded this year with them the hotbed

875
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: and the thing with Nido too, that's also been really

876
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: good this year is I saw it on Twitter and

877
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: I'll maybe throw it on the screen if I remember

878
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: when I'm editing this. But I think he has the

879
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: highest called strike rate in the league among catchers, and

880
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: they showed like his framing has been impeccable. He's been

881
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: fantastic behind the plate. Is someone who loves framing porn. Essentially,

882
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: he's been really really good at it. And even McCann's

883
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: been framing porn. You put like in your room or

884
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: the living so you guys can't see it, but all

885
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: these frames around the catcher framing likes framing porn. That's

886
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: it gets me going. It gets me gets me all

887
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: riled up. And he's been framing the ball beautifully. I

888
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: love a good framing. He's if if you're not going

889
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: to do something offensively, which he has been, but if

890
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: you're not gonna give me something with the bat, you

891
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: gotta give me someone with the glove, and he's been

892
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: doing it both sides.

893
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: Mccanna's that too. But this is funny little stat about

894
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: Neio from perusing his Baseball savon for about ten seconds,

895
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: he had the best pop time in Major League Baseball

896
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. Tom Thomas Nito, I like that. That's kind

897
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 2: of cool.

898
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: Good pop time is top. Top time is important, especially

899
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: when you said catchers like Darnaul and Ploeki who physically

900
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: could not throw out a runner if you put them

901
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: ten feet away from second base. So it's good.

902
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 2: And this is like a weird, like very small scale

903
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: argument here. But Nito is twenty seven years old right now.

904
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: So if you're gonna get years out of like peak

905
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: years out of Neito while he's under team control this year,

906
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: next year, of the year after that, this is when

907
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: he should be getting all the abats in his entire career.

908
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: So just give him a couple. Just give him a couple.

909
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: He's first.

910
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: Also, we haven't talked about it. Jacob de Grom, Yeah,

911
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about it.

912
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about it because I'm assuming

913
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: he's pitching Sunday. All signs are pointing he's pitching Sunday.

914
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: It seemed like I put out a tweet about this,

915
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: but the lat that he said was bothering him. It

916
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: seems like it could have been a reason that he

917
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 2: couldn't like tighten his side and his shoulder was flying

918
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: in his last start, and even though he was still great,

919
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: that's just not something you want to put a lot

920
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: of stress under right now. As he also he's a perfectionist.

921
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to go onto the mound when he's

922
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 2: less than a hundred percent. So skip to start whatever.

923
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: We won the bullpen game, It's okay. Taiwan's been great.

924
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that in a second. Stro has

925
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: been great. Just get to Sunday. If he's gonna have

926
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: a bullpen tomorrow, by the time you listen to this,

927
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: probably will know his entire thing will be useless at

928
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: that point. But it's fine, it's fine. It's not a

929
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: big deal. I was very scared when it happened, but

930
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 2: it's fine. It's not a big deal. It's fine.

931
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: And then we got Game four, which happened today, and

932
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: it was a day game, Taiwan getting another day game,

933
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: which I know you had a nice little meme on

934
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: the Instagram there. Yeah.

935
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: I don't think many of our listeners watch always Sunny

936
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 2: in Philadelphia apparently, but Taiwan Walker is just the Mets

937
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: day man. He is the master of the sun, fighter of.

938
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: The night man. He looked great again. Like, I think

939
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: all the concerns that you and I don't even want

940
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: to call him concerns, but all the things that you

941
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: noted from the last start that you should keep an

942
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: eye out for. It looks like he answered all those questions.

943
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: Yeah he did. He continues to do that. The guy

944
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: we said episode after episode, start off to start, he

945
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: is a bulldog. You could feel it in the first

946
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: inning today, which is much like his start on during

947
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: the home opener. He was just dotting everything using mixing

948
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: all four of his pitches in the first inning of

949
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: the game, which some pitches like to that some pitches don't.

950
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: De Grom wants to get through the lineup as many

951
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: time as he can with less pitches, a guy like

952
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 2: Taiwan without that kind of electric stuff, he wants to

953
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: use them all prove his control. Struck out the side

954
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: touched ninety six, and I just sat down. I was like,

955
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: all right, went for a tree today. He rode that

956
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 2: four seamer, which the last couple starts I was looking for,

957
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: and he did it. He also threw his hardest fastball

958
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: of the game today with the second to last pitch,

959
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: which for a guy who's lost these oscillais over the

960
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: last couple of years as a very big deal. He

961
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 2: still had the gas and his ninety first pitch to

962
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: pump there. I kind of want him to get a

963
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: couple more innings. I would have throw him out there

964
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: to the eighth, possibly the ninth, but because he looked

965
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: that great, he's like his whist ro over twenty percent,

966
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: which is pretty good. He gave up next to no

967
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 2: hart contact, just three hard hit balls. Everything was working

968
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: for him today and he looked just in control. Even

969
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: got a base hit. You even got a base.

970
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: He got a pinch hit the other day too, or

971
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: he got a chance to pinch hit the other day. Taiwan.

972
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: So to put it in completely different you know ideas here.

973
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: But when you watch the ground pitch and you watch

974
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: him throw, you go you you marvel in it, You go, wow,

975
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: this guy is just he's something special. When you watch

976
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: Taiwan Walker pitch, that's like a drink of beer and

977
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 1: get pumped, or like, yeah, hit the zone, let's go

978
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: pump that fastball, like he just gets me. I don't

979
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: know what it is, but watching him throw strikes gives

980
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: me a sense of enjoyment. I get very excited and

981
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, yeah, Taiwan throw that shit, like, let's go.

982
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's just the bol

983
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: it's the bulldog attitude of he just kind of comes

984
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: barreling at you a little bit and you gotta deal

985
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: with it. And he's so far looked really really good

986
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: for the Mets and definitely one of the better acquisitions

987
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 1: that we've made in the offseason. Really again, huge credit

988
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: to Jeremy Hefner.

989
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: Again, huge guys, Jeremy Hefener. Jeremy Hefner is amazing. I

990
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 2: love Jeremy Hefner. Can we cannot, you know how, Like.

991
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: We signed Francisco Lindor to ten year, three hundred forty

992
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: one whatever it was, million dollar contract. Can we give

993
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: Jeremy Hefner like a ten year deal?

994
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 2: Like whoever the manager is, he just stands anything he

995
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: wants right now. He just keep to keep the guy.

996
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: If Rojas isn't the guy, whoever it is, If you

997
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: if your first move is to not keep Jeremy Haffner,

998
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna have problems. He has to stay he's unbelievable.

999
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: He might just be the manager. I don't get you

1000
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: could do anything he wants. Maybe the general manager. I

1001
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: love that guy. I take that back. I'm not gonna

1002
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: speak by another man's job. Rojas is fine. I don't know.

1003
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: He's really pulling the strength, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. But

1004
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: Confordo seems to have also figured out his approach to

1005
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 2: the plate. He walked seven times this series. He actually

1006
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: he might have been eight by the end. I took

1007
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 2: this note like the second inning. He is a walking

1008
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: machine right now.

1009
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: I think his OPS is back to eight hundred, or

1010
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: at least close to it right now.

1011
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: It is because is on base percentage just are the

1012
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: up near eight hundred.

1013
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: So we're starting to see Confordo look a little bit

1014
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: more like himself. And that was the thing that we

1015
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: said at the beginning of the year, was like he

1016
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: just he wasn't comfortable with the plate. He was taking

1017
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: the wrong pitches and swinging at the wrong ones, where

1018
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: now it seems to be he still isn't hitting for power,

1019
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 1: he's still not necessarily getting those that gap shots that

1020
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: he's used to, but he's looking a lot more comfortable

1021
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: at the plate, which is a sign.

1022
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: Forward, definitely, and no one's getting those gap shots that

1023
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: we're used to. Like McNeil hit that rocket first pitch today.

1024
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: I think it was off of into center field and

1025
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,959
Speaker 2: bayit just flagged it down, made incredibly difficult play look easy.

1026
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: So no one's really doing it. But at least everyone

1027
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: is taking walks, which is a very strange consolation prize

1028
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: for this team hitting right now. Even as bad as

1029
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: Lindor's been, he finally got off the schneid today. Thank god,

1030
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: Lindor broke the streak. But he's been on base in

1031
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: something like sixteen to nineteen games, or like seventeen out

1032
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: of twenty some crazy amount of can like games he's

1033
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: been on base. So at least we're doing that. We're

1034
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: giving us the opportunity to score. We set the franchise

1035
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: record today for men left on base, which is not

1036
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 2: something you ever want to hear. I thought it was

1037
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: bizarre that we got around the lineup six times like McNeil,

1038
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: Lindork and four. They got six six at bats. We

1039
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: only four runs or I can't even fathom bad. We

1040
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: had like twenty five base runs.

1041
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: I got off the plane today and I open up

1042
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: the box score, and I go thirty six left on

1043
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: base through eight, and I understand, like, technically you can't

1044
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: leave thirty eight thirty six through eight. You can't even

1045
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 1: leave that through nine. But like the way that ONLYB

1046
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: dot com and their box score does it is you know,

1047
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: every single batter that comes up as an opportunity to

1048
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: leave x amount of guys on base thirty six no

1049
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: matter how you slice, I don't feel like I've ever

1050
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: seen that number.

1051
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 2: I thought you were just being an asshole when you

1052
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 2: said that, because that was a number that was impossible.

1053
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: It was literally I took a screenshop and replied to

1054
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: it with someone on Twitter. I was like, no, like

1055
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: LB dot com tracks every single batter, like if there's

1056
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: bases loaded and you get now you left three on

1057
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: and then the next guy could leave three on. But

1058
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: it felt like every single guy at least came on,

1059
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: came up with guys on base. We didn't come through again,

1060
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: but we ended up still winning the game, which is nice.

1061
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. I mean Lindor three walks, three freaquent walks

1062
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: in one game, the yard had two, Jonathan dr had

1063
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: two walks.

1064
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: The guy's allergic to walking.

1065
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: He's allergic to walking. Yeah, I love that line you

1066
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: from Ernie. If you put that a blogger refer to

1067
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: the allergic to walk, I love that. Ship. The one

1068
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: guy who's approach still has not gotten there. He looks

1069
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: even worse than me in Francisco Lindor is dominic Smith.

1070
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened man?

1071
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: I referenced a few episodes ago that we might have

1072
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: been in over our skis with dom here. But he

1073
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: looks just completely lost at the plate. It was hugely

1074
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: got that hit today, the only run scoring hit that

1075
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: the Mets had all day in a win with Dominick Smith,

1076
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: which is super cool, But it was like a seeing

1077
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: eye single. It was just a ground ball that found

1078
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: a hole. So he can't really take that with that much.

1079
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: But he's at bad. In the third inning with the

1080
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: bases load was a disaster. He like swung at the

1081
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: pitch and the he like he's swung the pitch in

1082
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: the dirt, and he swung at the pitch inside was awful.

1083
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: He did the same thing in the fifth with three

1084
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: to one pitch. He still drew a walk. That's okay,

1085
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 2: But I don't know if he's I don't know if

1086
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: he's exactly who we thought he was last year.

1087
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: Dom is showing us the old Dom that we were

1088
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: all down on before he learned how to sleep again.

1089
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: Maybe he maybe he's maybe he's not traveling with his

1090
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: sleep apnea machine, which if he's not, he maybe forgot it. Yeah,

1091
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 1: maybe he left it on the road. I remet living

1092
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: left that at home. But I mean, like he just

1093
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: he feels a little off. He feels a little behind

1094
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: on everything, doesn't feel as sharp as he was, and

1095
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: it's showing in his plane his numbers, because his numbers

1096
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: are just left, to be honest, pretty pitiful right now.

1097
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, awful, really off, And that's a guy that we

1098
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: want you to be clicking, Yeah, especially when you like

1099
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: add in the fact that his defense is like it's

1100
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 2: like barely average, pretty subpar. For being honest, his arm

1101
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: has been a little bit better than I thought, which

1102
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: is kind of funny. Yeah, but he needs to hit.

1103
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: He needs to hit like a mility or their bat

1104
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: to keep like an everyday role. And he needs especially

1105
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: when Nimmo comes back in a week or two, he's

1106
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: gonna have to prove it because if the way the

1107
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: White polar is hitting like there's a there's a reason,

1108
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: there's a cause to give some more at bats to

1109
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: him right now.

1110
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, ride the hot hand. He's definitely one

1111
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: of them, for sure. We've we've talked about we don't

1112
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: we didn't want to see him get this many at bats.

1113
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,959
Speaker 1: But if he's gonna play well, sure, keep keep rolling

1114
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: the dice until he stops.

1115
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: And he's had a lot of at bats in recent

1116
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: years and done pretty well with them. So if it

1117
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: had to come to that, it's not the biggest.

1118
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: Deal, like I think right now, almost against lefties, he's

1119
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: a lock to play. I think against.

1120
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: Lefts definitely, and like he's he's never been like a

1121
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 2: very good hitter, but he's at least been nearly average.

1122
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: And you couple that with pretty solid defense, although not

1123
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: spectacular anymore. That's that's a guy who's worthy of a

1124
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: lineup spot. And just to talk about the outfield defense,

1125
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: such a huge fuck you to the Cardinals outfield defense.

1126
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: They have incredible outfield defense. All three of those guys O'Neill,

1127
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: Bather and Carlson are young, athletic, good arms. It's ridiculous.

1128
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous Bather throughout Uh, I think it was Dom

1129
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: at home play in Game one and we did run

1130
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: him the rest of the rest of the series. Didn't

1131
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 2: even consider its Mets split the series. Mets split the series.

1132
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: Going into the series, we said, let's get a split.

1133
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 2: We gotta split. This is fine, there's a good team,

1134
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: got splits. Good split.

1135
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: Four games on the hanging around five hanging around five hundred,

1136
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: playing bad baseball.

1137
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: Yep, don't let don't let the mess hang around here.

1138
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: And because I was gonna say, it would have been

1139
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: a good thing to get Carrasco back this weekend, but

1140
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 2: we learned this afternoon that's not going to appo.

1141
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: It seems like Carrasco is not doing well.

1142
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, seems like he's doing fine. This also seems

1143
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: very old Mets that within one hour he was rumored

1144
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: to pitch on Sunday too. He's not gonna pitch until

1145
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: May thirty, first of the.

1146
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: Years, which also happened the last time that he was

1147
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: getting ramped up again to come back, remember spring training, like,

1148
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: oh he's back, now he's good, and then he hurts

1149
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: himself in spring training.

1150
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: Immediate it's a hamstring tear for a thirty four year

1151
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: old men, Like that's all you need to know. This

1152
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 2: is a difficult injury to come back from. And even

1153
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: if the hamstring is getting near sixty seventy eighty percent like,

1154
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: he still needs a spring training. He still has to

1155
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 2: ramp up and get all of his stuff to where

1156
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 2: it needs to be. He needs to be getting game shape.

1157
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: A hamstring, you can't do much conditioning at all.

1158
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: No, and I'll give the Mets you know, some slack

1159
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: here too. Carrasco was kind of the added bonus in

1160
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: the Francisco Indoor trade. We made that trade to get

1161
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: Francisco Lindor. We happened to get Carlos Carrasco along with him,

1162
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: which was a fantastic move because when he is healthy

1163
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: out on the mound, he would make a huge impact.

1164
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: We just don't know when that's necessarily gonna happen. But

1165
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: I think if anyone's mad about trading for Carlos Carrasco, going, oh,

1166
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: here's another one of these guys, you know'll get hurt,

1167
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: like pump the brakes a little bit here. It wasn't

1168
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: the Carlos Carrasco trade. It was the Francisco Indoor trade

1169
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: that also included Carlos Carrasco. Still an absolute steal for

1170
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: what we did.

1171
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: Definitely, and I had this take preseason, but you know,

1172
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: the Carrasco is giving you one hundred to one hundred

1173
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 2: twenty inning max. So the Mets don't want any chance

1174
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: of him to get such a serious injury that it

1175
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 2: would still push away that projection because he's still can

1176
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: get a clean one hundred innings given what we have

1177
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 2: left in this season, like one hundred and thirty five

1178
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: games or something, don't know the exact number. And Mets

1179
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: pitching has not been the issue. The Mets have the

1180
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 2: fourth lowest earned run average in baseball full staff, like

1181
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: that's pretty serious stuff, Like we don't We're not a

1182
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: situation where need to be breaking our backs to get

1183
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 2: Carlos Carrasco back right now. And that's a great luxury that.

1184
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 1: Has I know, it's who would have thought that would

1185
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: have been something we were saying before we started the season,

1186
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: that the offense is struggling and that the pitching is

1187
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: clicking on all cylinders.

1188
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 2: But I never even would have comprehended that that is what's.

1189
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: Going on in the twenty twenty one New York Mets world.

1190
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and let's give it positive here. We

1191
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: wanted to do some like monthly award type stuff here

1192
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: on the channel on the podcast. I call it a

1193
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: channel because I'm so used to YouTube. Have we figured

1194
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: out a name for what we want to do for

1195
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: our award.

1196
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: I haven't figured out a name. The brain's not been

1197
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 2: working that well last couple of days, busy with a

1198
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: lot of stuff. But we're gonna get one. I'm gonna

1199
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: get one soon. It's gonna be the I'm gonna think

1200
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 2: of some kind of pun, something stupid. It's gonna be funny, hopefully,

1201
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: I hope. Honestly, probably you probably won't hear if it's

1202
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: not funny. So that's why I got you, Mark. But

1203
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: I kind of just want to give this award. We've

1204
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: been talking a lot about Hefner this week. I want

1205
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: to give it to an actual player, even though kind

1206
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: of want to give to Heffner, But an unheralded hero

1207
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: for the Mets so far this season is Trevor May.

1208
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: That guy's been lights out man like one is signing by.

1209
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: The outside the first game he really has had no issues.

1210
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even that first game there was kind of

1211
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: just some nonsense going on.

1212
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: It was cold, it was windy, it was after the

1213
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: whole FACCTA Washington National series, like there was a lot

1214
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: going wrong there. He hadn't pitched in a while. And

1215
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: since then, Trevor May has been exactly what we signed

1216
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: up for, and he has been a lights out set

1217
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: up man leading us to Edwin Diaz, which has been fantastic.

1218
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, And like, I don't even know if he's

1219
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 2: necessarily like the sharpest right now. He's his control sometimes erradic,

1220
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: but he just gets everybody out. It makes it the

1221
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: three pitches very well, fastball change up sly there he's

1222
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: pumping ninety eight. It's good. I have tons of faith

1223
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: in Trevor May. Move forward. He is our Met of

1224
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: the month, Met of the month.

1225
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: There we go the month for April. I love it

1226
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: nice and simple, which leads us real quick quickly into

1227
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: the series that we got here because this has been

1228
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: a lengthy episode, but we also, you know, we haven't

1229
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: had a good, deep, long episode like this in a while.

1230
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: We got the Arizona Diamondbacks coming to Queens this weekend,

1231
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: which this is a team that we play.

1232
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mets always seem to play Diamonbacks at the end

1233
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: of the season. It's kind of feels weird to play

1234
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 2: them in May. There's not a May team for the Mets.

1235
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: The last time I remember the Mets playing the Diamondbacks

1236
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: in May was when Matt Harvey hit his first home

1237
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: run as a New York met me and my dad

1238
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: at the game. My dad goes, Hey, Harvey, how about

1239
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: you had a home run here? Boom, home run. Weird,

1240
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: weird call by my dad to call Matt hard.

1241
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: A home run. That's a great call by mister Luino.

1242
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: It's also funny because Harvey's first ever start was against

1243
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks in Arizona, but that was an August game,

1244
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: Like I'm saying, this is an August team. And it's

1245
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: also funny because our next episode after this Diamonbacks series,

1246
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 2: we're gonna be going up against mister Harvey and we'll

1247
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: probably get to touch on that for a moment or two.

1248
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: But just to stick with the Diamondbacks, we got to

1249
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: miss Jack Flaherty with the Cardinals, which was huge. We're

1250
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: not gonna miss Zach Allen. He's pitching tomorrow later today.

1251
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 2: If you're listening to this on Friday against David Peterson, Yes,

1252
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 2: we got Peterson. We're probably gonna see Luke again mixed

1253
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 2: with Reed Foley Gazelman possibly ALBUMO though, and then Sunday

1254
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: hopefully Jacob de Gram hopefully that's okay. Jacob de Gram

1255
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: against this guy's name who was starting against on Sunday

1256
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 2: is kind hysterical. I thought it was different guy, Riley Smith.

1257
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: That's that's a creative player, that's computer generated. Riley Smith

1258
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 2: from Lufkin texas Kin nice whole things out.

1259
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: Sounds like he some Friday night lights. Maybe baseball isn't

1260
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: the right sport there, but this Dimebacks team kind of

1261
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to put it, but there's

1262
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: just not a lot that scares you on this team.

1263
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: A lot like Carson Kelly's playing really really good baseball,

1264
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: and I do think he's.

1265
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: A good ripping ripping the car.

1266
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: Do you think he's a good catcher? But he tends

1267
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: to destroy left handed pitching more so than right handed pitching,

1268
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: which doesn't bode well for luke Z and Peterson, who

1269
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: are going to be playing. I don't think it's tell Martees.

1270
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: Back here right, No, he's still not back. And this

1271
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 2: team also just got swept by the Marlins. Scoring three runs,

1272
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: zero runs in one run in three games in a row.

1273
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like Edward o Escobar, who I know

1274
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: you're not a huge fan of, he hit me. I

1275
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: think Carson Kelly have been like the two offensive producers

1276
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: on this team this year. Everybody else has been pretty nonexistent.

1277
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 2: Why the West Cobar. He's like, I think five home

1278
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: runs the first two weeks this season and now is

1279
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: sitting at seven, which is very is why the West

1280
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 2: Cobar do something like that. David Peralt is still a professional.

1281
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: The guy's good. We're gonna get get to be reunited

1282
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: with the as man as droublel cabrere the series. It'll

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Speaker 2: be nice. I'll call friends Drouble.

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Speaker 1: He same thing. He wanted to be traded, but also

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00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: like I got why he wanted to be traded, and

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00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: then and then he took it back and he hit

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00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: the big home run for us, and he's the man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And he he had like a weird month where

1289
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: he wasn't self aware and then became self aware very quickly.

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00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: He's given himself an entire new level of his career

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00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: since doing that, being a second third base and he's

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00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: been good. Yeah, he still hits. A guy still hits

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00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 2: the ball on base right now is three seventy, which

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00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: is pretty high.

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Speaker 1: That he basically has a walker with him around the bases,

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00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: but he can still swing the bat.

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Speaker 2: Two guys in this see him and want everyone every

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00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 2: other mess doub listeners to be aware of the series.

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00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: Peven Smith or maybe pavint I think it's PN though. First,

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00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 2: first basement corner outfield to type. He's been playing a

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00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: lot of first for the d Backs with Christian Walker

1302
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 2: out fellow game Cock that's Marks Alma mother. But guy's

1303
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: a good hitter. He had good numbers of minor league.

1304
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: You never had a spot. He's come up. He's had

1305
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: a nice little two sixty seven three h six four

1306
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 2: to fifty seven slash that serious, and then Mark will

1307
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: know this is one of my boys. Josh Rojas has

1308
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 2: been ripping the cover off the ball for the last

1309
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: two weeks since he's really settled into the second base job,

1310
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 2: also playing a little bit of outfield, which that just

1311
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: shows the guy's Versatility's a ballplayer, but the guy show

1312
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: a little more power never thought he had. He is

1313
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 2: a baseball player. Those two guys, if anyone this imback

1314
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: line is gonna hurt you this week. It'll be as

1315
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 2: drouble of course, David Peralta and Peven Smith, Pavin Smith,

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00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: so I don't know, and then Josh Rojas and Carson Kelly, as.

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00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: You mention, and if you're the Mets, the key to

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00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: beating the Dinebacks, of course, besides just being better, you

1319
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: are the better team. You gotta get to this bullpen.

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00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: This bullpen is horrendous. The arms that they have in

1321
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: Arizona shouldn't be on many Major League Baseball rosters, throwing

1322
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: out guys like Stephen Crichton.

1323
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: I mean, like, that's that's a fake.

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00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: That's not a real person.

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00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: You can't say the name Stephen Crichton without like sounding

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00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna real quickly, I'm gonna look

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00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: up who is currently pitching for the Arizona Diamondbacks, because

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00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: this I know.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now. I have I have their

1331
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: bullpen per right now. We have Joakim Soria, which is

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00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 2: shocking that he's still Chris. Yeah, he's he's still fine.

1333
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: He's he's wiley. He's one of those relievers throws a

1334
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 2: couple of pitches that works, Chris Davinski, who's never been good.

1335
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 2: He's like, basically a whole decade is not being good.

1336
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: Crichton not good. Ginkle, who I thought was okay, not

1337
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 2: good in Ginkle. Yeah, Caleb Smith, failed Marlin starter, he's

1338
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: actually been decent. He's a he's a good lefty out

1339
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: of the pen, comes as the star of the reports

1340
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: warrant and the ballplane's okay. Taylor Clark does something similar,

1341
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 2: but he's not very good at it. Matt Peacock not good.

1342
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: And then the one guy who's decent, decent, ish, could

1343
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: be decent, potentially decent. J. P. Bukowskis one of the

1344
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: big pieces from the zach Ranky trade from a few

1345
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: years ago, who another failed starter, moved to the pen.

1346
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: But you got these guys. These is not sense what

1347
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's nobody in that bullpen where you go like,

1349
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, oh, man ninth inning. Uh oh, we're in trouble.

1350
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, ninth inning, this game's a four run game.

1351
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: We have a shot.

1352
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 2: Yeah for me to highlight a couple of hitters leading

1353
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: into the next series and not pictures, that means it's pitching.

1354
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know how much, James love to talk about

1355
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: some random pictures. Although your boy Garret Whitlock has looked

1356
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: like crap the last few days. But he got shelled

1357
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: by the Tigers the other night.

1358
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: But well he got candalarian. That's my other guys, exactly.

1359
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 1: Your boys are hopping around the league everywhere, but the Diamondbacks.

1360
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: That's a series we got to win one hundred percent,

1361
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: and I think we will. I really do think we will.

1362
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: I think the Mets bats have been looking a lot

1363
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: more comfortable. We have good pitching that's been going strong.

1364
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good about the series, and I'm excited to

1365
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: see the Mets at City Field again this weekend. James,

1366
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna take us to the end here

1367
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: of episode twelve. This is going to be our longest

1368
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: episode yet. But since since the preseason, since the preseason episode.

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00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: But listen, we haven't had an episode where I've been

1370
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: at my apartment, you've been at your ho It's been

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00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: a while. We got comfortable, we talked Mets baseball. It's

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Speaker 1: good to be back. I hope you guys enjoyed listening

1373
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: to us here on the met Stub podcast. In order

1374
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: to find us on social media at metstup. Listen to

1375
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: us on Apple, Spotify, Google Podcasts, as well as YouTube

1376
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 1: mets up podcast. You could search us up there doing

1377
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: new episodes after every single series this season. Thank you

1378
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: guys so much for the amazing support on all the episodes.

1379
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: And that's pretty much we're gonna wrap up today. Follow

1380
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: James Jeter had no Range, follow me draftneck Mark, and

1381
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: we'll see you all tomorrow Tomorrow, episode thirteen. This isn't

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Speaker 1: the YouTube video of the mets ub podcast.

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Speaker 2: Bye,