1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: This is John, this is Sam, your og Okay Storytime 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: podcast hosts. We have some spectacular stories coming up, but 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: real quick, we got a two minute break from our 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: lovely sponsors keeping this ship sailing. My father discovered he 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: had another daughter, and I want nothing to do with them. 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: She's say, we're gonna find out, that's for sure. February twentieth, 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, random account because my brother uses Reddit 8 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: to last year, my dad found out that he had 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: another kid, Mia, thirty female and a granddaughter, Zoe seven. 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: Before this, it was me seventeen male, my brother twenty male, 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: and our parents fifty five male fifty two female. Apparently 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: he just had a fling with MIA's mom when he 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: was in college, who ghosted him and never told him 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: about being pregnant. By the way, this comes from user 15 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: routine status fourteen ninety two, and if you want to 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: submit your stories, go to the r slash Okay Storytime 17 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: subreddit and submit them there. So since finding out, it's 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: all my dad talks about. He and Mia tan and 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: called for a couple of months, and then she let 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: him meet Zoe over zoom and then last summer they 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: came to visit us we live in a big city 22 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: and they live a couple states over. My brother was 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: at college, but he even drove back for a weekend 24 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: to meet them too. Everyone was so excited except me, Like, 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: no one acknowledged how weird the whole thing is. Mia 26 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: is nice, I guess, but she kept saying how she's 27 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: so excited to have a family for her and Zoe. 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: I guess her mom's not in the picture. My parents 29 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: wanted to show them around our city, so anytime I 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: didn't have school or practice, I was being dragged around 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: doing things for tourists and kids. And with that in mind, 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: that was the thing that got on my nerves the 33 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: most about that trip. MIA's kid, Zoe, who is seven, 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: she was so excited to have a nan and pap 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: and kept calling me uncle o Pete. They even came 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: to one of my soccer games that week and she 37 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: ran up after in front of my friends to hug 38 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: me and tell me that she wanted to play soccer 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: now too because her uncle is the best on the team. 40 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: Oh, you are such a teenager, because that's the sweetest 41 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: thing ever. 42 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Wow. When they visited over winter break, it was a 43 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: lot of the same stuff my parents got them a 44 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: ton of presents, and Zoe kept asking me questions and 45 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: asking to play games with her. I also found out 46 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: that my dad is sending them money each month, since 47 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: MIA's job doesn't pay that well. I tried confiding in 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: my brother about it, but he seems totally fine and 49 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: says it's making our parents really happy to have more family. Anyway, 50 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: my dad just told me they're coming up again in 51 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and Ice snapped. I admit that 52 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: I raised my voice a bit and asked why he 53 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: cares so much about people he met less than a 54 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: year ago. Everyone keeps saying Mia and Zoe our family, 55 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: but they didn't grow up with us, and I literally 56 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: can't see them as actual family. I also said she's 57 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: probably just using him for the money, which I know 58 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: was probably a weaner move, but he said he's the 59 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: one that insisted on sending the money and he feels 60 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: guilty for not being there in her life. But it 61 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: still feels so weird. So I told him I'm not 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: going to do anything with them while they're here. Now, 63 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: he's saying that if I can't be a team player 64 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: in the family, you'll have to reconsider taking me on 65 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: our family vacation this year, which I guess they're also 66 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: going on my mom's on his side, saying Mia had 67 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: a hard life, so it's natural she's excited to have 68 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: a family and that she loves having more girls in 69 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: the house every once in a while. My friends are 70 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: the only ones on my side. I mean your seventeen 71 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: year old. Yeah, there are the. 72 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: Other seventeen year olds in your life. 73 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: They said they'd find it weird if random people just 74 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: showed up one day be in their family. Verdict a hole. Yes. 75 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: Here's some top comments. Comment number one, you're the ale 76 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: I understand this can be a hard adjustment. You're not 77 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: the baby anymore, and that can be jarring. There's a 78 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: kid in the picture when you're used to being the youngest. 79 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, you're still acting more like a 80 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: baby than the actual seven year old. Like it or not. 81 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: They are family. Maybe not your family if you don't 82 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: consider them as such, but they're your dad's family, your 83 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: mom's family, your brother's family, and by proxy you're involved. 84 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: They have done nothing wrong except act like a family. 85 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: Your parents and brother have done nothing wrong by welcoming 86 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: them as family, saying Mia is using her father for 87 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: money is an a whole move, and you owe them 88 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: an apology. You need to self reflect and realize why 89 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: this is pressing you so bad. Talk with your parents, 90 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: your school counselor ask for therapy or do anything to 91 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: figure this out. Again, having conflicting emotions over this is valid, 92 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: but the way you've been acting is not. Identify the problem, 93 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: and note the problem isn't Mia, it isn't Zoe, it 94 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: is within you. 95 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: That was a good comment. That was saying, like, you're 96 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: allowed to be like, you know, kind of confuse and all, 97 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: but you need to dock with your parents about this. 98 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: Agreed. We have another comment here, comment or number two, 99 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: you are the a whole And asked why he cared 100 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: so much about people who met him less than a 101 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: year ago because it's his kid and grandkid. Of course 102 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: he effing cares. I also said she's probably just using 103 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: him for the money. No need to lash out because 104 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: you're having trouble with this. There's other ways to express yourself. 105 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: They said they'd find it weird if random people. Well 106 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: guess what, they're not random. They are his kid and grandkid. 107 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: But I guess this is how a seventeen year old 108 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: would see it. I'm sure this is a big adjustment 109 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: for you, but you're seventeen and playing the petulant kid 110 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: ain't gonna work. You can spend your time being salty 111 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: and nasty about this and ostracize your dad in the process, 112 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: or you can try and move on with the family, 113 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: get to know these relatives and maybe have fun com 114 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: Andre three says, I'm not gonna call you an ale. 115 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Boo boo this commenter, this kid's being an ale. 116 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: You gotta call them out, man. But they're gonna be nice. 117 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 2: They'd be nice, man. 118 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: Sure, they're gonna be nice. Let's see, you're seventeen and 119 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: having trouble dealing with this new change. You can't take 120 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: it out on others, though, especially not letting Mia and 121 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: the kid know about any of this. Simply ask your 122 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: dad to take this slow and not force you to 123 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: be around them that ain't magically gonna make you like them. Sure, 124 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: this isn't about you, but you're also the one dealing 125 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: with this change, so it's not fey to ask you 126 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: to Just comment. To number four, you said that since 127 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: he found out Mia and Zoe are all he talks about, 128 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: it's been a year. Is that still true or was 129 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: that only true for the first couple of months where 130 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: he was still reeling from the life altering news that 131 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: he had a kid that he's never met. If it's 132 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: still true, then I give you a bit of a pass. 133 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: No one is great at communication at your age, and 134 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: that's if you've really examined which parts of the situation 135 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: really bother you. Assuming they are all he talks about, 136 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: he dropped his interest in your life. He thinks that 137 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: they're perfect, and you're not acting like a better dad 138 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: for her than for you. What is it that's stabbing 139 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: your brain? If that's not true, you need to examine 140 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: yourself anyway, all these same questions. But I give you 141 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: less of a pass if your dad found his footing 142 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: and is back to normal, interested in your life, paying 143 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: attention to your decisions, giving advice for your future, showing 144 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: up to your game, showing up for you outside of 145 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: generalized family time. Is it just that you literally don't 146 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: know them, but everyone is acting like they do. Is 147 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: it just that it takes you time to warm up 148 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: to people and no one is respecting that. What is 149 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: it really? Comment or stop giving op the leeway, op 150 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: He's just being able. 151 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: It's a nice comment though, It's sure it's nice, but 152 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 2: I think it's trying to figure out why OPI is 153 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: being in a whole is the question. 154 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Because Opie's like, it's not my family. But that's the thing. 155 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: Op He probably doesn't know why they're reacting this way, 156 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: which isn't what doesn't make it right, but it does 157 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: mean that, like, you know, they need to figure out 158 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 2: what is the root of these feelings. 159 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: From the title of this and from the way Opie's acting, 160 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: it's like I would understand this reaction if this was 161 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: a secret family that Opie's dad had been like taken 162 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: care of and like been present for for years and 163 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: years and years and now is trying to like fold 164 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: the secret family into the general family. But that's not 165 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: the case. Secret family was secret from dad as well. Yeah, 166 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: threatening to leave you off the family vacation is a 167 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: weener move, so I guess you come by that honestly, 168 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: even more so if he actually does it. Y'all need 169 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: to have multiple conversations about this situation, probably with a therapist, 170 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: because as I said above, it's going to be hard 171 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: for you to really articulate how and why you feel 172 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: like you do. If he doesn't listen to you you 173 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: or continues to dismiss how you feel, then he is 174 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: the butt. That doesn't mean that I think he's wrong 175 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: for accepting his daughter and granddaughter with an open heart. 176 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: Your mom and brother aren't wrong for not finding the 177 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: situation weird. They're allowed to feel how they feel. You 178 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: don't get to dictate that anymore than they do for you. 179 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: And there is an update six days after the original post, 180 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: Let's dig into it. Thanks to everyone who gave me 181 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: actual advice rather than just calling me a spoiled a 182 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: hole about the situation with no further comment, I was 183 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: actually able to think through my emotions and formulate a 184 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: plan forward. 185 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: Oh go, sometimes you just need the comments that were 186 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: like you're being a little brat, but here right. 187 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: You can't just tell the kid, yeah, you're an ahole 188 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: and then like move on. 189 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: It's like this is why, or at least this is why. 190 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: I think. Go talk to your parents. 191 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, I sat down with my parents on Sunday 192 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: and we had a productive conversation. I apologized for snapping 193 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: last week and told them that I was just having 194 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: a difficult time with the amount of changes over the year, 195 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: and it had built up. Through reading your comments, I 196 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: realized that these feelings were probably coming from the fact 197 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: that I am, as many of you guessed, the youngest 198 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: on both sides of the family. There had always been 199 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: a lot of emphasis on that, and with it being 200 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: my senior year, I kind of expected a bit more 201 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: of the spotlight than I'm getting. I also think having 202 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: my brother being away at school put most of the 203 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: expectations on me to be a good son or brother, 204 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: or uncle or host. I was feeling a little resentment 205 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: that he was able to escape back to his campus 206 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: while I was stuck at home. I was pinning those 207 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: feelings on Mia and Zoe, which I recognize isn't fair. 208 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: My parents also apologized for not checking in with me 209 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: more often about how I was feeling. I asked if 210 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: I could opt out of some activities when Mia and 211 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: Zoe visit so I could still enjoy my spring break 212 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: with friends. In compromise, I would make more of an 213 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: effort to engage with them in general, like maybe playing 214 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: soccer with Zoe. Stop being a brad dude, play play 215 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: soccer with the seven year old. 216 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: Play soccer? 217 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: Do people just hate kid. Look, this is all the 218 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: proof you need that I do not hate kids indiscriminately. 219 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: I would be as soon as the kid runs up 220 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: to me and goes, I want to play soccer because 221 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: you're the best, I'd be like, well, you are my 222 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: sister for life. 223 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 2: Now he really finds those kids doring bad behavior aren't 224 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: always conscious of the fact that it's harmful to someone else, exactly. 225 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: They just know that they're coping or it makes them 226 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: feel better or at least stimulated in a less. 227 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: Negative way, exactly. 228 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, the person that he trusted the most, it seems like, 229 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: in this situation was his older brother, and his older 230 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: brother was just like, dude, it's nothing like this, brush 231 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: it off your shoulder, and like the older brother should 232 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: have seen it as like a my brother's not okay 233 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: kind of thing. 234 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: Well, older brother's also been in college not present the 235 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: whole time, so maybe, yeah, that's more of it. But regardless, 236 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 1: you can always be present in our college which is 237 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna call the archive of full episodes with 238 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: stories like this, And you can listen to our college 239 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: archive if you just go to iHeartRadio or Apple podcast 240 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: or Spotify wherever you listen to podcasts. Search Okay story time, 241 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: and there you will find the library, so to speak. 242 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: And we do have a little bit more story left. 243 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: Study hall. Let's finish it up. Read it ultimately. I've 244 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: realized that my sister and niece aren't going anywhere, and 245 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: I have to sort out my feelings about that. I 246 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: do think me going to college out of state in 247 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: a couple of months will help give me my own space, 248 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: but for now I'll try to make more of an 249 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: effort to integrate them into my life. Comment one, nicely done. Seriously, 250 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: good job. You're a good soul kid. Ohp handled the 251 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: situation much better than most of the adults. Comment three. 252 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: You seem like a really sweet kid that just needed 253 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: some guidance in reregulating. The amount of self reflection you've 254 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: done is admirable. Proud of you, stranger. Comment are four 255 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: Probably literally just the same thing, and that is the end. 256 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 2: My sister mistreated me for years. Now they're forcing us 257 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 2: to reconcile. 258 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: I force you, I cast reconcile. 259 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: I forty six female and my sister forty two female, 260 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: have always had a complicated relationship, but for the last 261 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: eight years it's been a nightmare, at least for me 262 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 2: and for my parents Moms sixty nine, Dad seventy three. 263 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Chapter New seventy nine sixteen, 264 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 2: and if you want to spit your own stories, go 265 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: to our slash Okay storytime. Separate it so for context. 266 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: My mom's family is a large one and very well knit. 267 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: We are sixteen cousins plus spouses and children, aunts and uncles, 268 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 2: about sixty three people in total. We've always been there 269 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 2: for each other, from going to school together to supporting 270 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: each other through good times and bad. We celebrate everything 271 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: together and we grieve together. It's not the usual family dynamic, 272 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 2: but that's how it is. My relationship with my sister 273 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: has never been great. She's always made remarks about my 274 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: appearance and body shamed me. I didn't handle it well 275 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: as a teenager, and I resented her a lot for it. 276 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: Whenever I tried to talk to my parents about anything, 277 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: she would talk over me, making sure she was the 278 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: only one heard. She always managed to be the center 279 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: of attention, and I resented her for it. I know 280 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: it sounds childish on my part, but I couldn't stand 281 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: her entitled behavior and the fact that my parents never 282 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: corrected her made it worse. Here's an example that keeps 283 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: running through my mind. It may not be the best, 284 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 2: but it gives you an idea of what I mean. 285 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 2: When I got married twenty years ago, I had a 286 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: small ceremony with just our immediate families and a few 287 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: friends one twenty five people in total. Small for our family. 288 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: My sister was twenty two at the time and insisted 289 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: on giving me a present, which seemed sweet. However, I 290 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 2: only asked her for the one thing, not to give 291 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: me anything cross stitched, as I don't like it. Guess 292 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: what my gift from her was. If you guessed a 293 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: cross stitched item your rights. She made a huge show 294 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: of giving me a framed cross stitch piece in front 295 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: of everyone. I was livid, but I didn't want it 296 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: to ruin my day. I thanked her, though not in 297 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: the best way, and moved on. Before leaving, my mom 298 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: told me I had been very ungrateful for the beautiful, 299 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 2: hard working present my lovely sister had made for me. 300 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: I never apologized to either of them. Sometime later, my 301 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 2: sister met her then boyfriend and started behaving as if 302 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: everyone was against her because she was spending so much 303 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: time at this house. Our parents didn't like it much. 304 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: One evening she called as crying, saying she had a 305 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: fight with our parents about her absences and threatened to 306 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 2: run away. We told her to wait and that we 307 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: would come get her. But suddenly everything was fine and 308 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: we didn't need to come anymore. Turns out everything was 309 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: a lie. Who could have guessed. Time went on, and 310 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: one day she and her boyfriend came over to announce 311 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: they were getting married. Great news, right, well, that was 312 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: the beginning of the nightmare. As we were discussing the wedding, 313 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 2: she said, you know, when I have my own children, 314 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: you'll realize that mine will outshine yours. They will take 315 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: first place as the most significant children. 316 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: That's toxic. 317 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: I was livid. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. 318 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: Thanks to my SOO, I managed to keep my composure. 319 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: How I still don't know. Then came the wedding planning. 320 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: As I mentioned, my family celebrates everything together, but not 321 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: this time. She was adamant about not inviting any family members. 322 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: Here were her reasons. First, she claims she didn't have 323 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: the money. My mom and I told her that wasn't 324 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: a problem. Our parents would pay for the entire family 325 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: to attend. Then it wasn't about money anymore. She said 326 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: she was thinking of me because our female cousins, who 327 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: she considers stunning, would overshadow me, especially since I had 328 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: gained weight after two pregnancies. That's messed up of her 329 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: to say. When that didn't work, she claims she knew 330 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: I didn't like one of our cousins and was sparing 331 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: me for dealing with them. This was completely untrue. She 332 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: just didn't want to invite the whole family. By this time, 333 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: my mom was begging me to keep quiet and tried 334 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: to convince my sister that inviting the family was important 335 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: to avoid causing a rift. I did everything I could 336 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: to persuade her, but she didn't care. Months later, she 337 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: invited me to go wedding dress shopping. When I arrived, 338 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: she was alone. She hadn't even told our mother to come. 339 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: I was already at my wits end. She had already 340 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: chosen her dress, and as the sales lady was fitting it, 341 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: she asked about a veil. My wonderful sister then said, 342 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna wear that one, pointing at me. What were 343 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: you wearing a veil? 344 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: What? Wait what. 345 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: I was stunned. I told her no, she didn't take 346 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: it well. But the saleslady saved me by saying that 347 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: if my wedding dress wasn't the same shade of white, 348 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: it wouldn't match. 349 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so she was wearing wedding dress as well. 350 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: They're both trying on wedding dress to keep that part 351 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: that I didn't. I just thought, pointed at you and 352 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: was like, you will be the veil. Yeah, no, not me. 353 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: They just take you into the back and the veil 354 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: folding machine and they just process you into a wedding veil. 355 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: Then my sister demanded that I give her my godmother's 356 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: medal because she wanted to wear it for the wedding. 357 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: I couldn't take it anymore. I shouted that there was 358 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: no way in heck she was taking it. It was 359 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: the only thing I had left from my godmother, who 360 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 2: had passed away just months after my wedding. I couldn't 361 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: believe she wanted to include the passed away in her wedding, 362 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: but not the living. I was exhausted and devastated. I 363 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: called my mom, explained everything and told her where we were. Wait, 364 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: you've already had your wedding, it seems. 365 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: Why were you wearing your dress? Did she tell you 366 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: to do that? 367 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: What? She didn't care. The amazing shop assistant managed to 368 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: get her mom to come later that afternoon to see 369 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: the dress, but for me, everything was tainted with grief. 370 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: Cried the whole afternoon when I got home. As the 371 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: wedding approached, my sister decided that our grandmother, who was 372 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: in a wheelchair and not well, had to be there. 373 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: She told her aunt, who lived with Granny, that Granny 374 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: should come, but without inviting the rest of the family. 375 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: My aunt, who is sharp as a knife, wasn't having it. 376 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: She told my sister, if you want Granny there, you'll 377 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: have her, but wear my and nephews and nieces aren't welcome. 378 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm not going, so it's up to you. This, of course, 379 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: enraged my sister. Somehow everything was suddenly my fault. Family 380 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 2: members started calling me to brak me for my sister 381 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: not inviting them. Apparently it was my job to fix 382 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: the situation, as if I had any say in it. 383 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 2: I cried myself to sleep every night. The stress drove 384 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: me into depression. The wedding day arrived, I had an 385 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: excruciating backache from the stress and was on medication. I 386 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 2: only managed to attend the ceremony at the town hall. 387 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: When my mom arrived with Granny, we realized there was 388 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: no accessible entrance. My ESSO and other guests had to 389 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: carry Granny's wheelchair up a long flight of stairs. On 390 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 2: the bride side, only my parents, Granny, me, my ESSO, 391 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: and my two kids sat. Meanwhile, the groom side was 392 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: act around one twenty guests. It was the saddest wedding 393 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 2: I've ever attended. My mom and I cried through the 394 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: entire event. 395 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: What if that's the disparity? Don't separate the wedding party? Yeah, 396 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: what are you doing? If one party has eight people 397 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: the other has one hundred and twenty, just make them 398 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: all sit together? 399 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 2: Why would you do that? 400 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: That's crazy. It's one of the craziest things I've ever heard. 401 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: After the ceremony, my ESSO realized there must be a 402 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: disabled entrance. He contacted the police, who were authorized to 403 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: open it so Granny could leave safely without risk of falling. 404 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: The restaurant was another nightmare. Stairs everywhere, strangers helping us 405 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: carry Granny in, and no accessible bathroom By the end 406 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: of the meal, Granny was exhausted and I couldn't take 407 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 2: it anymore. We decided to leave before the party began, 408 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 2: and that's how my sister's wedding became one of the 409 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: most painful experiences of my life. Running forward in time, 410 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: about a year after, our granny was getting very ill 411 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: and my awesome sister was pregnant. By November, Granny, now 412 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: ninety six, was not fighting anymore, and I was at 413 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 2: the hospital saying my goodbyes. Out of nowhere, my eldest 414 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: cousin began to shout at me because of my sister, 415 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: as if I was one responsible for getting her there. 416 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 2: This is why your sister doesn't want these people to come. 417 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 2: Maybe they're just freaking. 418 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: Is this the cousin that she was like trying to 419 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, well you don't want this person around. 420 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe this cousin freaking. 421 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: But like being she faced with grief, like right in 422 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: front of your face and like someone passing away, it's 423 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: like it's going to stress you out. Sure, but this 424 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: the directing anger. 425 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: No, but this will happened with the wedding where everyone 426 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: was calling ope and like blaming Opee for not being invited. 427 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: So I feel like maybe just this family cot. Yeah, 428 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 2: I think the sister also, but like seems like also 429 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: the family. I told her to call her herself because 430 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to deal with her anymore. Her excuse 431 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: for not being there was that her now husband was 432 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: quite worried for her bs. The day our granny passed away. 433 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: As she arrived at the funeral parlor, our father tried 434 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 2: to hug us both that being said out loud, don't 435 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 2: get me close to that so that she doesn't infect me. 436 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 2: That was me, as you can imagine. I could barely 437 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: contain myself, but thanks to one of my mom's friends, 438 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: I was taken away. Otherwise maybe today I would have 439 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: ended up in jail. A month and a half later, 440 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: she was due to give birth, and when she got 441 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: to the hospital, she didn't tell me anything, neither her 442 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: her her husband, nor our parents. But the next morning 443 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: my mom called me to berate me because I wasn't there. 444 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: I lived three hours away, so it wasn't easy for 445 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: me to drop everything and leave it that moment. I 446 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: tried to explain myself, but it didn't mean anything, because 447 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: my duty was to be there and I wasn't. I 448 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: talked to her explain my situation, promising that I would 449 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: be there for her during the weekend. She seemed to 450 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: be okay with it, but then two days later, my 451 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: ESSO received a phone call from her husband berating us 452 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: because we weren't there and his wife was crying herself 453 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: to sleep over it. He accused us of awful things 454 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: that weren't true, and at the end of the shouting match, 455 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 2: he told us that from now on, we are not 456 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 2: welcome at his house by any means. I had a 457 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: panic attack and my blood pressure skyrocketed. I ended up 458 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: in the hospital because my nose wouldn't stop bleeding. 459 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: Dang what you can go to the hospital for that? 460 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't stop bleeding. 461 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: What I'm googling that right now? That's insane. 462 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 2: The next days were dreadful. Every time the phone rang, 463 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: it was some family member berating me because I was 464 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: the worst sister in the world, too full of pride 465 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: to swallow it and meet my niece every day and 466 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: night for months. At the next family gathering, she made 467 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: her grand entrance with her baby and put her in 468 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 2: my arm so that I could meet her. In her magnanimity, 469 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 2: she was the one who cared. I took the baby, 470 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: but couldn't even look at her. I gave her to 471 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: myso and ran into the bathroom, where I had a 472 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: panic attack. My godfather's wife saw me run and followed 473 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 2: to help me back to my feet. She let me 474 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 2: cry myself out, cleaned my face, and repaired my makeup. 475 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 2: She was in my corner. She told me that she 476 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: saw everything I did to try and make things right. 477 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 2: That gave me some peace. Somebody had seen that I 478 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 2: was struggling. From that day on, everything revolved around her 479 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: and her baby. It seemed like she was the only 480 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: woman in the world who had ever had a baby. 481 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: What do you do these people? If they're going to 482 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: continue to blame you for behavior that doesn't have anything 483 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: to do with you, it's your sister, Like I don't know, 484 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: stop you cut them out a little bit, Stop feeling 485 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: responsible for it, Stop responding to claims or calls for 486 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: you to be responsible for your sister, and bring it 487 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: up to them, Like you know, I think it's usually 488 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: better to like have a discussion or a conversation or 489 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: a group text with the involved family members about like 490 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: what you feel is being done wrong and like what 491 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: should change, and then if nothing happens, cut them off. 492 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: Cut them off, because if they're all behaving this way, 493 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 2: it's just like, you don't need that in your life. 494 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 2: You need to go to these events where you get 495 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: you have a panic attack. If you're having a panic 496 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 2: attack around these people, like every time you see them, 497 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 2: there's nothing keeping you there. That's good. 498 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: Prioritize your own peace. 499 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: Then the VID arrived. Since I lived far away due 500 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 2: to the restrictions, I couldn't be with my family for 501 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 2: over a year. It helped me to heal and to 502 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: lose almost sixty pounds, so I was healthier than ever before. 503 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: I was feeling. 504 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: Awesome, more calm, more confident, more everything. The first time 505 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: we saw each other again, I wasn't looking as bad 506 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: as before. The moment she saw me, she blurted out, 507 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: Oh crap, you mother, effart your south Slam. I can't 508 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: mess with you. That's insane of a thing to say. 509 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: But I wonder if that's what she was saying, don't 510 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 2: infect me with. 511 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: You know, like nosebleed. 512 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: Oh no, I was gonna say, like the body shaming stuff. 513 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know, maybe that was another body shaming comment. 514 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 2: Now that she couldn't do that. She tried to mess 515 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: with me in other ways, like telling me what a 516 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 2: bad mother I was because I wasn't forcing my little 517 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 2: shy daughter to hug her or making my son call 518 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: her auntie. He had started calling her by her name. 519 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 2: He's smart, so he knew something was off that having 520 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: behavior went on and on, body shaming me, making comments 521 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: about my looks and so on. After that, I decided 522 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: to have low contact so I could manage my feelings 523 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 2: and emotions and control my increasing lack of patience, and 524 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: somehow I managed. Until last year, I decided to spend 525 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: a short school holiday at my parents' house so my 526 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: now teenage children could be with them. It had been 527 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: a very long year with a lot of work stress. 528 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 2: I told my father that this weekend, I didn't want 529 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 2: him to call my sister or anyone else. I just 530 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: wanted it to be the five of us. I wanted 531 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: to spend some time alone with them. That Friday, my 532 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: son had a high fever, so I spent the night 533 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: watching him and trying to keep his temperature as low 534 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: as possible. At around six am, I finally fell asleep. 535 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: Not long after, at about eight thirty my father woke 536 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 2: me up to tell me that my sister and her 537 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 2: children were coming for lunch. When your child is a 538 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: high fever. 539 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: That's the best time. 540 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: Didn't she literally just say like, I don't want you 541 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 2: to have infect me as you both get infected. It's 542 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: the bitch, I'm when the child it has one hundred 543 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: and five. 544 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: Fever adds a nice little zest to the meal. 545 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: I thought it was just messing with me, but nope, 546 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: they were coming, and according to him, it was his 547 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: house and he could invite whomever he wanted and he 548 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 2: didn't need my permission. I was exhausted and argued back, 549 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: saying that I could just take my kids and leave 550 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: if he wasn't going to listen or care. I know 551 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 2: I was too much, but I hadn't slept more than 552 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: two hours and wasn't in the mood. But I stayed 553 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: and tried to be nice. That night was the same 554 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: as before, taking care of my son and barely sleeping 555 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: in an easy chair. The next morning, what of my 556 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: cousins called my mom her brother my uncle was very 557 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: ill in the hospital and they didn't think he was 558 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: going to survive much longer. He ran to the hospital 559 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 2: to be with him. He wasn't doing well, so after 560 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 2: the visit, due to my lack of sleep, I went 561 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: back to my parents' house to be with my kids. 562 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: Now they were both ill the next time, I decided 563 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: to go back home so the doctor could check on them. 564 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: On Monday, my husband needed urgent surgery, so my father 565 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: had to come to my house to take care of 566 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 2: my children. While my mother was at the hospital with 567 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: her brother and I was at another hospital with my 568 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: husband will MYESO was in surgery. My sweet sister called 569 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: me sobbing and crying, knowing full well that I was 570 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 2: alone in a hospital an hour and a half away 571 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: from anyone, to tell me that my uncle had passed away. 572 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: She was screaming, so I hung up. Why was she screaming? 573 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: How people do weird things? 574 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: Well, I'm wondering, is she screaming like out of. 575 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: Like I was just distressing. She's screaming at op And 576 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: if that is the case, what are you doing? Why 577 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: are you screaming at her? She's got her own stuff 578 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 1: in the hospital. 579 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 2: I had a meltdown and a panic attack. I called 580 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 2: my mom and she got scared because she thought something 581 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 2: going to happen. To my SOO. As I later found out, 582 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: she told everyone not to call me because my ESSO 583 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: was in surgery and I was alone. But my sister 584 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: knew better she had a duty to let me know 585 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: even when she was told not to. The rest of 586 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: the afternoon was a blur, so it was okay that 587 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was devastated. The days that followed were awful, 588 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: and things kept piling up. We lost another pair of grandparents, 589 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: another uncle, a friend of my husband. Then one of 590 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: my best friend's moms passed away, and then one of 591 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 2: her sisters. Wow, it was a horrible year, but it 592 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: was far from over. My niece's birthday was coming, and 593 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 2: three days before I had a very bad reaction to 594 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: a medicine. I had to be in the hospital for 595 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: three days with lots of digestive problems, but I made 596 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 2: it and went to her moms for the celebration. I 597 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: was in a horrible physical state, so I could hardly 598 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 2: eat anything, and my tummy became inflamed, making me feel 599 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 2: even worse. 600 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: I see you, I know exactly what that was, Oh Pee. 601 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: I think this Obviously your family's been really really awful. 602 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: But I think at a certain point that you need 603 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: to prioritize yourself and not go to these things. If 604 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 2: you are not feeling well, don't go. You don't deserve 605 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: to be treated poorly just because they say, like you know, 606 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: you're someone's having a birthday, you don't have to go. 607 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 2: If you were sick, don't go. Think a little bit 608 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: of low contact, maybe no contact with some of these 609 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 2: people is needed. This mother, ever, began to mess with 610 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: my looks and smirk and laughed and laughed. I told 611 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: her that this behavior was not funny, that she was 612 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: body shaming me, and that it was nothing to laugh about. 613 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 2: I was fed up and left exhausted driving my two 614 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: hour journey back home, so I decided to turn low 615 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: contact into even less contact good. Last November, my father's mom, 616 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: ninety five, was hospitalized, very ill and not expected to 617 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 2: live more than the next twenty four to forty eight hours. 618 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 2: I packed my things and drove home to be there. 619 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: The first day. We talked and she seemed genuinely sad 620 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 2: and hurt. I told her that she didn't have to worry. 621 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: I had her back and she could do whatever she 622 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: felt was best for her. We didn't have a wonderful 623 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: relationship with this granny. She thanked me and left for 624 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: her house. I spent the next five days at the 625 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: hospital taking care of her father's mom. I called my 626 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: sister every day to check on her and update her 627 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 2: on what was going on. I was feeling great. It 628 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: seemed like granny's situation had brought us to a place 629 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: where we could share as sisters and not as enemies. Miraculously, 630 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: she survived and everything went back to normal. 631 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, breaking the trend. 632 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's especially the ninety five year old. 633 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: Like, that's crazy. That is crazy. 634 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: I called my sister is to explain the situation because 635 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: I had to get back home and needed her to 636 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: stay in touch with our parents for their needs. She 637 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: thanked me, and then she started crying, saying she was 638 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: thankful that we managed to get over our sister problems 639 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: with her wedding. Then she said she had already forgiven 640 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 2: me for everything I did. I was driving home and 641 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 2: couldn't believe my ears. This mother eff had been efing 642 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: me around for the last sixteen years, and she's forgiving me. 643 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: I told her it would be better if she shut 644 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: her upping mouth, because sixteen years later, she was still 645 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: reminding me of how she made my whole life, and 646 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 2: yet I was the one in the wrong. I told 647 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: her to hang up and that we would talk later. 648 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: I had to call one of my cousins to calm 649 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: me down. I was in the middle of nowhere, driving, 650 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: crying and trying not to have an accident. It took 651 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: me four hours to do a two and a half 652 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: hour drive. I hated myself. I was so effing a 653 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: forty six year old woman crying like a child in 654 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: the middle of the road, sitting on some random pavement, breathless. 655 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: Dang okay, well, I will say. Part of me is like, yeah, whatever, 656 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: you just take that. She's like, I'm so glad we 657 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: could work through the issues. You're like, yeah, sure, whatever, 658 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: we work through them. I don't care. You're and sixteen 659 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: years of history showed me that I don't want anything 660 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: to do with you anyway, So go ahead and feel 661 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: like you everything's solved. I don't care. But then the 662 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: other half of me knows that sometimes people say that 663 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: one sentence to you, yeah, well, and that's all it takes. 664 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: Like they say the right secrets of words and you go, 665 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: hold on. I know you didn't just say that right. 666 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: Which is what it feels like, because it felt like 667 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 2: this whole story. Ope is like, that's fine. I'm angry, 668 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: but I'm just keeping it in. I'm gonna keep it 669 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: in it And then she says those words, and I'll 670 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: feel like da. Christmas arrived and at the present exchange, 671 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 2: she gave myso a bottle of tequila. I thought, what 672 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: a thoughtful gift, but no, it wasn't. It was a 673 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 2: poisoned dart. At a certain point during lunch, she whispered 674 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: so that no one else get that the tequila was 675 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: from her wedding, that she had bought it for us, 676 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 2: and because we left, she had kept it for sixteen years. 677 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: I couldn't believe what this entitled brat had done, and said. 678 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: Three weeks ago it was my father's birthday, now seventy four. 679 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 2: While we were there, my parents told us that to 680 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: celebrate their fiftieth anniversary, they had decided the best way 681 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: was to go on a cruise, just the four of us. 682 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: Don't go on this cruise. On the cruise, don't go 683 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 2: on a trip where you can't escape. My anxiety rocketed. 684 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 2: I told them I would look for dates because I 685 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: couldn't think of anything better to say than a direct no. 686 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: A week later, she came by my house unexpectedly, and 687 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 2: as we were talking, she asked if I had already 688 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 2: looked for dates. I couldn't take it anymore and I 689 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: blew up. My verbal diarrhea wasn't very coherent. I was 690 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: sobbing the whole time and couldn't catch my breath. Dang girl, 691 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: I really Okay again, your family is issign your fault. 692 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: You should go to therapy. 693 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: Yes, also, yes, big time go therapy. 694 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: By the way, you should rush to listen to full 695 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: episodes with stories just like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple, 696 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 2: par I Guess, or your favorite podcasts up and search 697 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: a Pogey story time. 698 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: Yes, do this and things really happen anyway. There's a 699 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: little bit left to this story. Okay, let's finish it off. 700 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,479 Speaker 2: I explained that it was my fault because through everything 701 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: I never told her anything. I didn't want our parents 702 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: to suffer in any way, but I was exhausted. My 703 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 2: mom told me not to worry about the cruise. She 704 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 2: said that we needed to have a talk because there 705 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: were things that needed to be solved, so she would 706 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: find a day for it. So Would I be the 707 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: ale if I don't want to solve anything. Would I 708 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 2: be the ale if I just want to have nothing 709 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: to do with her? 710 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: So to your family, Yes, in reality though, now what 711 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: like your family's going to be like you can you're 712 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: the worst, and you blah blah you you you, and 713 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: but like in reality you can just be like, nope, 714 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: I'll be on my line. I think this person's not 715 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: going to change. Guess what. At the end of the day, 716 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: it is for you. 717 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 3: You don't need to do anything else for these people. 718 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: The only thing I was going to say is op, 719 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 2: he's having this conversation with her mom. Her mom said, 720 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: let's have a conversation, let's. 721 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: Talk about it. 722 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: I kind of think you should have that converse. That 723 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: isn't to say that you need have any sort of 724 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: contact with your sister or the rest of your family, 725 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: but I think you should tell your mom what's going on. 726 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: I think you could say, hey, this is how I've 727 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: been treated. I have no desire to have a relationship 728 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: with my sister. If that's what you wanted to talk about, 729 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm not here for it. But it seems like your 730 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: mom didn't say let's have a conversation and sort out 731 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: your relationship with her sister. She just said, there are 732 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: things that need to be solved, but that is the 733 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: end of that story. 734 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: Is it for that? 735 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 4: Though? 736 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam, your og host here. We're going to 737 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: get back to the stories. But here's three minutes of 738 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: ads from our sponsors. My sister in law dictates everyone 739 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: for the family holidays, and I finally spoke my mind. 740 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know what they do with dictators. 741 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: They pushed their statues down. My thirty five male brother 742 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: thirty four male got married six years ago. After the wedding, 743 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: his wife, thirty female, insisted on hosting all family holidays 744 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: to include her family as well as my brothers. This 745 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: seemed logical at first. I felt she was just trying 746 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: to include everyone so she wouldn't have to split her 747 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 1: holiday between the two families. By the way, this comes 748 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: from user Mander's thirty six and if you want to 749 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: submit your stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime suburdit. 750 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: So the first year, we agreed and she presented us 751 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: with assignments, including what she wanted each of us to bring. Now, 752 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: it's typical for guests to bring something or at least 753 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: offer to, but these were specific assignments with the stipulation 754 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: that your invite would be revoked if you didn't agree 755 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: to follow through. She assigned my mother to cook an 756 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: entire turkey with sides and bring it on Thanksgiving Day. 757 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: My mother wasn't just making the turkey dinner, she also 758 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: had to pack it up hot and transport it. My 759 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: younger brother thirty mail, and I, who are not married 760 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: and typically attend alone, were also given assignments. These included 761 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: the exact items to bring, the brands, the quantity, and 762 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: the amount to spend. Both my younger brother and I 763 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: voiced our opinions about this at first, but we ended 764 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: up following through just to keep the peace. Fast forward 765 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: five years and this has been happening for every Thanksgiving, Christmas, 766 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: and Easter. This past weekend, my mother invited both of 767 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: my brothers and me over for Sunday dinner. Thanksgiving is 768 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: coming up, and towards the end of the dinner, my 769 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 1: sister in law announces are invite for Thanksgiving while pulling 770 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: up her notes on her phone from previous years. So 771 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: she starts assigning items to my mother, my brother, and me. 772 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: I tell her I'm too busy this year, and that 773 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: I'll bring wine or beer, but I cannot cook or 774 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: prepare anything. She huffs, turns to my brother, her husband, 775 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,919 Speaker 1: and starts discussing how much certain types of wine cost 776 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: per bottle and how many I should be purchasing. At 777 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: this point, I'm already mad that she completely dismissed what 778 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: I said as I listened to her discussed costs. I 779 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 1: sternly and directly tell her that if it's coming down 780 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: to money, I don't want to come. And she turns 781 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: to me and says, you know the f what vanders 782 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: thirty SI. 783 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: You'll need to effing come. 784 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: Then I look at her and say, well that settles that. 785 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: My poor mom and dad both look at each other concerned. 786 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: My mother asks her not to curse, and sister in 787 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: law gets up and leaves the house. My brother grabs 788 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: his daughter and starts to leave after her. I apologize 789 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: to him, and he tells me that he spends a 790 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: lot of time and money hosting the holidays and that 791 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: it wouldn't hurt me to bring whatever his wife wants. 792 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: After they leave, I talk it through with my other 793 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: brother and my parents. They agree I'm not wrong, but 794 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: say I could have handled it differently. I agree, though 795 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm still mad. This was a long time coming. I 796 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: go home and sleep on it, and in the morning 797 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: I text sister in law. The following sister in law, 798 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry the situation escalated the way it did last night. 799 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been so blunt. I could have found 800 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: a nicer way to tell you that I don't like 801 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: or feel comfortable being told what to spend or bring. 802 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: I don't mind being asked, but explicitly told what to 803 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: bring or how much I should spend feels like more 804 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: like an assignment than an invite. In past instances, I've 805 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: mentioned that I don't like this, but have never properly 806 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,319 Speaker 1: conveyed my feelings on the subject. That's my fault. It's 807 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: my opinion that any contribution should be voluntary and not 808 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: an ultimatum for being invited. I don't like how that 809 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: makes me feel. Invite me simply because you want to 810 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: include me and for no other reason. My presence is 811 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: your presence. Otherwise, it's okay not to allow me the 812 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to offer to bring something before telling me to 813 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: do so. The time and money that goes into hosting 814 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: a holiday is not lost on me. If you want 815 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: or need help, I don't mind you reaching out, but 816 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,439 Speaker 1: I ask that you do so in an honest way 817 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't inflict guilt or obligation. Allow me my own 818 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,760 Speaker 1: discretion without any preconceived expectations. 819 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 2: That was pretty flip fluffy. 820 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 1: This is all way too much putting that out there. 821 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: I don't know, this is way too much. This is burke. Hey, uh, 822 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: in the future, just can I can I bring what 823 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: I want to bring to Thanksgiving? 824 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 2: And then but also just like that the way that 825 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 2: he'll be his writing, This is kind of annoying me 826 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 2: because they're like, don't tell me to bring something, ask 827 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 2: me to bring something, and be honest that you need 828 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 2: me to bring Like it's too much, just say like 829 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: just say, hey, you were a little bit rude when 830 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 2: you ask, Like that's the problem here. It's just the rudeness. 831 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it's normal to. 832 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 2: Ask people to bring things to Thanksgiving. 833 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: That's I apologize for my indiscretion and lack of communication. 834 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: Amanda's thirty six. I receive this back. 835 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: All right, all right, let's see by Amander's thirty six, 836 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 2: I'm really sorry that asking you to bring something specific 837 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: that costs less than the amount of food you consume. 838 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: Bothers you to be honest. I hand out assignments because 839 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 1: you and younger brother never offer right away, and I'm 840 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: afraid that you'll wait until the day before to ask 841 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 1: and it will be too late because husband and I 842 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: have already spent the money now on. You can just 843 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: bring yourself and I will not ask you for anything. 844 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me know so explicitly how much 845 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: you can't stand the way I choose to host parties 846 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: at my house Next time. Instead of getting mad, you 847 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: could always just try to talk to me about it 848 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: and not make a scene in front of your whole 849 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: family and embarrass me. Sorry again, both of these people suck. 850 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 2: I agree they both suck. I think I'm on the 851 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 2: everyone's the a hole here because I think op doesn't 852 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 2: know what a normal Thanksgiving is like, and also the 853 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 2: sister in law is an ale. 854 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: Opie says, I know I could have been more polite 855 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: or communicated my feelings better. As I admitted in my apology, 856 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: we never offer because we've always been assigned things to 857 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: make or bring a month in advance. I'm also not 858 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: concerned with the amount of money. It's about being dictated 859 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: how much I'm required to spend just to attend the 860 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: holidays with my family. I also have Celiac disease and 861 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: can't eat most of what's served. It's medically not possible 862 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: for me to consume more food than what I spend 863 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: each year on her requests, I honestly attempted to apologize 864 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: and explain how I feel. I'm just looking for others' 865 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: opinions on how they would feel in my situation. How 866 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: would you react? Am I in the wrong or being unreasonable? 867 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: Am I right to feel used? 868 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 3: No? 869 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: If I'm in the wrong, what can I do to 870 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: improve myself? Your opinions are appreciated. Thank you for reading, 871 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: and there's an edit. Just wanted to thank everyone for 872 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: their time. I appreciate everyone who shared personal examples, opinions, 873 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: and advice, as well as a couple of laughs. I 874 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: read every reply and did my best to respond to 875 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: many of you. Dealing with family can be delicate. Decisions 876 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: made can have life long effects. She's my sister in law, 877 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: whether I like it or not. I love my brother 878 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: no matter who he married. I take a lot of 879 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 1: your comments to heart. The various personal anecdotes and points 880 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: of view were beyond helpful. I may not be joining 881 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: them for Thanksgiving, but I will do what I need 882 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 1: to maintain my relationship with my brother and avoid any 883 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: unnecessary conflict with sister in law that only makes his 884 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: life more difficult. Take it easy, Reddit, thank you and 885 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: hear that we do have an update. But before we get. 886 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 2: Into it, I still think that OPI didn't approach it great, 887 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 2: but I think that maybe could she could have a 888 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: convert or they could have a conversation with the sister 889 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 2: in law and be like, hey, I'm going to bring 890 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: a gluten free option that like that can be my 891 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: and I'll bring some drinks if you need them, but 892 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,479 Speaker 2: like that's my contribution. Yeah, did it to be clear, 893 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: Crella definitely an a hole? 894 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think that Opie. 895 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 2: Could both approach this differently and also is just the 896 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 2: way that they are wording their complaints doesn't make too 897 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 2: much sense to me. 898 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: Uh here's the update, just to give all you fine 899 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: folks a quick update. After venting to a couple of 900 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: close friends and one of my closest cousins, I ended 901 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: up with three invites for Thanksgiving. I'll be spending the 902 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: holiday with friends, and if time allows, also visiting my 903 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: extended family. An attempt to talk to my brother has 904 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,359 Speaker 1: gone nowhere. Unfortunately, I'm told I'm looking at this only 905 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,720 Speaker 1: from my perspective and that her actions are justified because 906 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,479 Speaker 1: I embarrassed her in front of my parents and made 907 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,399 Speaker 1: her uncomfortable. Question Mark question mark question mark question mark 908 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: question mark question mark question mark. 909 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 2: I am embarrassed her in front of my parents and 910 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 2: made run comfortable. 911 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: What was so embarrassing though, I don't remember, honestly, you know. 912 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: What I do remember is that you can listen to 913 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 1: full episodes with stories like this. All you have to 914 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: do is go to iHeartRadio or Apple Podcasts or Spotify 915 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,919 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to podcasts and search Okay, story time, 916 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: and there you will find every single episode you could 917 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: ever listen to of this show. We have a little 918 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: bit more story left, Okay. Yeah, I just removed myself 919 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 1: from the situation as best as I could. My parents 920 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: are upset that I won't be there, but they understand, 921 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: as I've had quite a few long conversations with my 922 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 1: father about the situation. Anyways, thanks again for all your 923 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: advice and time. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone, and we have some comments. 924 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: Number one, I don't think your sister in law understands 925 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: what the word host means. It means whomever is hosting 926 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: the meal pays for it and cooks it in its entirety. 927 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: That is not true. That is crazy. 928 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 2: That's not water. Okay, maybe it's because I have a 929 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 2: really large family, but you do. I mean, like, when 930 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 2: you're hosting, you are cooking a lot of it. 931 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: But in its entirety is crazy. It's like if people 932 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: pitch in, people bring stuff. 933 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 2: Come on, they at any dinner, not even just a Thanksgiving. 934 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 2: I feel like anytime someone's like, hey, do you want 935 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 2: me to bring drinks? 936 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: Yes, it's expensive, and yes in most families in my experience, 937 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: the food prep is often shared amongst several people, but 938 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: that's typically on a voluntary basis. So you just you're. 939 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 4: Just describing your one unique situation mcly, Just like negated, 940 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 4: what you started with your family is being volun told 941 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 4: by your sister in law and she expects everyone to 942 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 4: pay for their plates. 943 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: A WTF. That's a tacky concept at weddings, and it's 944 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: just as tacky at a family holiday meal. I agree 945 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: with PPS that it's time to talk things over with 946 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: your own immediate family and start hosting your own holiday dinners. 947 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: Sister in law will just have to figure out how 948 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,360 Speaker 1: to navigate two family dinners on a single holiday, just 949 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: like the rest of us do. Come at number two, 950 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: assuming you're describing the exchange between the two of you 951 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: at dinner is unedited. She's the one who flew off 952 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: the handle. She's the one who got angry, stormed out 953 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: and cursed at you. I feel kind of upset about this, 954 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: and I'm not even invited. You probably set a bad 955 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: president by letting it go all those years, But honestly, 956 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: I think you're apologizing far more than is necessary, and 957 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: that the candidate story nobody has apologized. 958 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 2: Both of these comments are more than necessary. Oh never, okie, 959 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 2: when I'm sorry that I you know, like did that, 960 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 2: but I'm not actually sorry. And then the sister in 961 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 2: law said, I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry, Like those 962 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 2: are the same apologies I have learned as both a 963 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: host and both as a person who goes to parties. 964 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 2: It's usually, at least in the US, it's usually pretty 965 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 2: potluck style, unless it's I would say, unless it's for 966 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 2: There are certain cases where the host will do everything. 967 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: I would say, Hey, it's John here. We're gonna get 968 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: back to the stories. Put a quick three minute ad 969 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: break from our sponsors that keep the show going. 970 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 2: My mother in law keeps starting pointless arguments. 971 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: So we blocked her blocked. 972 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 2: I had started making this post late last night and 973 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 2: ended up losing everything I wrote, so please bear with me. 974 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 2: It might be a long one. I should also add 975 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 2: this is my first ever post on Reddit. I apologize 976 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 2: but a lack of paragraph breaks. These are the names 977 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 2: I have picked for the few names I will be 978 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 2: using in my story. Karen stepmother in law, Rob, father 979 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 2: in law, Pickles my now husband. I'm calling him husband. 980 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from my mom. Is not 981 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 2: a watermelo. There's no end, so a watermelo. And if 982 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 2: you want to submit your own stories, got our slashokey 983 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 2: storytime subbured it. So I met the love of my 984 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 2: life Pickles, around five years ago while working as a cashier. 985 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 2: He was picking up his sister, who was one of 986 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 2: my work friends. I know it sounds corny, but it 987 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 2: was love at first sight for the both of us. 988 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 2: We both said hi, and he would come into the 989 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 2: store many times after that just to talk to me. 990 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 2: We never exchanged phone numbers since I was on the 991 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 2: clock and he didn't want to scare me off, so 992 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 2: we would always talk and then leave things at that. 993 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 2: That is until I found out we had the same 994 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 2: mutual friend. This friend had a private story on Snapchat 995 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 2: that all his friends could view and post on, so 996 00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,280 Speaker 2: I decided to post and congratulate him on his graduation. 997 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 2: Within ten minutes of posting, I got a friend request. 998 00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: Since his name is semi popular in my mind, I 999 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 2: was saying, saying, please, let this be the right guy. 1000 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 2: Then I added him back. Within a few seconds, he 1001 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,920 Speaker 2: sent me a snap and it was indeed the man 1002 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 2: I was looking for. We started talking, and after the 1003 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 2: first few hours of texting back and forth, he asked 1004 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 2: me if he could take me somewhere. I excitedly agreed. 1005 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 2: We went out to climb on top of a building 1006 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 2: that everyone in my town calls the Bowl, to stargaze 1007 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: and talk about our lives, then ended the night sharing 1008 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 2: our first kiss. I had met his family prior when 1009 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 2: I dropped his sister off at home after her shift. 1010 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: Since we both got off at the same time and 1011 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 2: it wasn't too far out of my way home. She 1012 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 2: invited me in and I met Rob, her four siblings, 1013 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 2: her grandma, three dogs including Duke, one cat, my husband's, 1014 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 2: and of course Karen. Now please don't judge me for this, 1015 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: but when I met Karen, I thought she was Rob's 1016 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 2: attracted to the same gender sister. I say this because 1017 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 2: she had a blonde pixie haircut with faded blue, pink 1018 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 2: and purple hair dye, and was wearing a rainbow Tye 1019 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 2: T shirt. I was honestly shocked when they told me 1020 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 2: they were married. She was extremely nice at first, but 1021 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 2: after a while her masks started lifting and she showed 1022 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 2: her true colors. I just want to put this out 1023 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 2: here that Rob is an absolute angel, and I don't 1024 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 2: know how he puts out with Karen. After about a 1025 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 2: year of dating Pickles, I had some family issues and 1026 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 2: it ended up coming up in a conversation with the family. 1027 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 2: Rob and Karen both told me to come live with 1028 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,839 Speaker 2: them and to move my stuff into their home since 1029 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 2: they understood what those specific family issues were like. After 1030 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 2: them constantly telling me things would be better if I 1031 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 2: just moved in, I eventually did, but not without showing 1032 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 2: my appreciation by cooking cleaning and helping out financially. It 1033 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 2: wasn't long before Karen started yelling, berating, and belittling the 1034 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 2: kids in front of me. She always had a minimum 1035 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: to things to complain and get angry about in a day, 1036 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 2: whether it be someone leaving a toothbrush on the sink 1037 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 2: in the bathroom or a towel falling off the rack. 1038 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: But I continued to live there, thinking maybe she was 1039 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,480 Speaker 2: just having a week or just wasn't a good month. 1040 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,240 Speaker 2: She's just having a bad. 1041 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 1: Quarter, you know, just having a bad half a year. 1042 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 2: She's just having a bad decade. 1043 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: Oh, she's been a bad millennium. 1044 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 2: About a year later, Pickles popped the big question in 1045 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 2: front of all his family at their get together on 1046 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 2: Christmas Eve. They were all in on it. Not even 1047 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 2: five minutes later after I told him I would marry him, 1048 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 2: Karen opened her big mouth and said. 1049 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 5: When are we having the wedding? What theme are we thinking? 1050 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,919 Speaker 5: Ooh we should do this, we should do that, blah 1051 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 5: blah blah. I had no idea he was going to 1052 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,080 Speaker 5: propose to me five minutes prior, and now we need 1053 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 5: to start planning immediately. Calm down. We did end up 1054 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 5: sitting down and planning the wedding, setting our wedding date 1055 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 5: for September of twenty twenty three. Karen then asked me 1056 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 5: if she could plan the wedding and said both she 1057 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,879 Speaker 5: and Rob wanted to pay for it. I asked her 1058 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 5: multiple times if she was sure, and she assured me 1059 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 5: she wanted to do everything and pay for it. Both 1060 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,839 Speaker 5: Pickles and I agree, but only if they were sure. 1061 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 5: Keep in mind this was a small budget wedding, especially 1062 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 5: since we didn't want them to have to pick raise 1063 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 5: the amount of money on this. This becomes important later. 1064 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 5: Some time passed and Pickles and I decided we wanted 1065 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 5: to start a family together, but under one condition we 1066 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 5: would be out of the house before the baby was born, 1067 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 5: and here after we found out I was pregnant. We 1068 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 5: told the family about five days later with painted T 1069 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 5: shirts that said I'm gonna be a mom mine, I'm 1070 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 5: gonna be a dad Pickles, I'm gonna be a grandma Karen's, 1071 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,399 Speaker 5: and I'm gonna be a Grandpa Rob's. We had Rob 1072 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 5: and Karen close their eyes while my husband's aunt and 1073 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,240 Speaker 5: uncle put their T shirts on them as we changed 1074 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 5: into ours. Once everyone had their T shirts on, we 1075 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 5: had them turn around and open their eyes. The first 1076 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 5: words out of Karen's mouth were, no, wonder you were 1077 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:47,480 Speaker 5: being such a witch. 1078 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 2: I knew it right after you just found out that 1079 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 2: she's gonna have a child. 1080 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: You couldn't help yourself for one moment, Karen, not for 1081 00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:58,760 Speaker 1: one second. 1082 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 2: Both Pickles and I exchanged what the f glances at 1083 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 2: each other, but didn't say anything until we were somewhere private. 1084 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 2: He later told me that, if anything, I was acting 1085 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,040 Speaker 2: happier than normal and wasn't being witchy in any way, 1086 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,919 Speaker 2: shape or form. Fast forward about a month or so later, 1087 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 2: and my morning sickness was absolutely unbearable. Remember how I 1088 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 2: said they had three dogs, Well, unfortunately I have to 1089 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 2: bring them into this story. Duke is an extremely sweet 1090 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 2: but extremely large dog. I freaking knew it, but who 1091 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 2: wasn't properly outstrained due to everyone in the house being 1092 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 2: out most of the day. The only issue with him 1093 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,759 Speaker 2: was that he wasn't potty trained. That and his chronic diarrhea. 1094 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,640 Speaker 2: Ohnew Uh. I was the one who cleaned up after 1095 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 2: him most of the days before and after my workshifts. 1096 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 2: We when he had to go, he would go all 1097 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,640 Speaker 2: over the unfinished hardwood flors. Once my morning sickness started 1098 00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 2: punting in, I couldn't clean up his fecal matter without 1099 00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 2: having to take at least three trips to the bathroom 1100 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 2: in Queen Scoops. Oh, I couldn't even do that without 1101 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 2: being pregnant, so I didn't do as much of the 1102 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 2: cleaning as I used to. One day, Karen started yelling 1103 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,760 Speaker 2: at me, saying that pregnancy wasn't an excuse to be lazy, 1104 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 2: And then I don't do crap around the house, mind you. 1105 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 2: I was still cooking and cleaning the exact same ways before, bathrooms, kitchens, rooms, 1106 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 2: dishes piled up in the sink. The only thing that 1107 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 2: changed was cleaning up dog poop, and even then I 1108 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 2: still cleaned it up most of the time. They have 1109 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 2: three dogs. When one takes a big old dookie, all 1110 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: of them take big old dookies. The worst of it 1111 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 2: became more frequent during the one month wedding countdown I 1112 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 2: had found out I was pregnant. In July, one of 1113 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 2: my closest friends brought bought my dress for me as 1114 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,720 Speaker 2: my wedding gift on Amazon. I picked a one hundred 1115 00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 2: and twenty five dollars black horset back dress and absolutely 1116 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 2: loved it. We decided to order a size up just 1117 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 2: in case, since while I was pregnant. When I told 1118 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 2: Karen that I ordered the dress one size up just 1119 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,440 Speaker 2: in case, she started screaming. 1120 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: Only a thigh. 1121 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 2: You're gonna have balloon out and you only ordered one 1122 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,799 Speaker 2: size up. What's going to happen when the dress comes 1123 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 2: and it doesn't fit you because you're too huge? It 1124 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,439 Speaker 2: would make changes on that dress for you? Who would 1125 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,439 Speaker 2: pay for it? When I was pregnant blah blah blah blah, 1126 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 2: and the rent continue. Keep in mind, I wasn't even 1127 00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 2: showing yet at five months. Our baby was growing close 1128 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 2: to my spine, so I could have even hidden the 1129 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 2: pregnancy if I wanted to, And due to throwing up 1130 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 2: almost everything I ate, I was losing weight at the 1131 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 2: same time. The dress arrived a week before the wedding, 1132 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 2: and I was so relieved. It was beautiful, a little 1133 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 2: bit here and there, but it fit and I was 1134 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 2: happy about it. Karen for once had nothing to say, 1135 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 2: probably because my friend had brought the dress to me 1136 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 2: and was there to watch me put it on within 1137 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 2: the week timeframe. Karen would yell belittle and berate me daily. 1138 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 2: I had paid for everything meal related, and we decided 1139 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,280 Speaker 2: to make walking tacos since they're cheap and absolutely delicious. 1140 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 2: Haaren started screaming at me when I told her how 1141 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 2: much ground beef I was buying, demanding what if that 1142 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 2: isn't enough? What happens if we run out of food? 1143 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 2: I'm sure not gonna leave the wedding to get it, 1144 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,439 Speaker 2: so you would have to go out to get more. 1145 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 2: You'd have to leave your own wedding because you're stupid 1146 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 2: and didn't think about anyone beside yourself. I was planning 1147 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 2: on getting three ten pound tubes of ground beef. I 1148 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,360 Speaker 2: ended up buying an entire case of ground beef. Thank goodness, 1149 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,160 Speaker 2: it was on sale. It was thirty dollars a tube 1150 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 2: when it was normally sixty dollars each. Well, after getting 1151 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 2: the beef, utensil's plates and everything else, I got back 1152 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 2: to the house. My husband was talking with them about 1153 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 2: the wedding. Pickle said we got the food, to which 1154 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 2: I responded, I got the food since I paid for 1155 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 2: it with my money. When Karen heard that, she jumped 1156 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 2: up and snapped, was that a jab at my son? 1157 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: I responded it was a joke. Well, I didn't find 1158 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 1: it effy funny. 1159 00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 2: She screamed, it sounds like you made a jab at 1160 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 2: my son. I protect my son from anything, and I'm 1161 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,839 Speaker 2: gonna do everything it takes to protect him from you. 1162 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 2: I don't even think your marriage is going to last. 1163 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 2: I'd give it a year and you'll be done. I 1164 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 2: was fuming at this point and told her, I have 1165 00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 2: nothing to prove to you, but every day for the 1166 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 2: rest of my life, I will prove you wrong. She's 1167 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 2: gonna stay with him forever, just to spite you. 1168 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't do that. That's this is the point where 1169 00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 1: you go, Oh, I don't care, Hi, Hi, I don't 1170 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:12,840 Speaker 1: care about you. 1171 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 2: No, this is the point where the steps in and says, mom, 1172 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 2: don't ever freaking say that to my. 1173 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 1: Fiance one hundred percent. 1174 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 2: Then I left the house, went out to my car 1175 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,920 Speaker 2: and cried. When I eventually came back inside, there was 1176 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 2: no apology. Your husband needs to step the freak up man. 1177 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,200 Speaker 2: The next day, which was the day before the wedding, 1178 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 2: Karen didn't come home from work until later in the day. 1179 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 2: The second she walked in, she asked me if I 1180 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 2: had found a place for daycare. I told her that 1181 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 2: I had been looking into three places already. He responded, 1182 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 2: three places, only three places. I could make ten phone 1183 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 2: calls and have ten places within fifteen minutes. Dude, the 1184 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 2: baby's not even out yet. 1185 00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 1: Relax. 1186 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 2: Oh, and if you can't take care of your child 1187 00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 2: up to my standard, I'll take your baby away. So 1188 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,319 Speaker 2: that's illegal, that's kidnapping. The baby will stay with me, 1189 00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 2: And if you want to take a legal approach, I'll 1190 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 2: call CPS and have your child taken far away from you. 1191 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,959 Speaker 2: At least, if I take the baby, you could still 1192 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 2: see it around the house. Dude, what's your husband doing? 1193 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1194 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 1: Where's your husband? Dude? 1195 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 2: I ran out to my car, crying in front of 1196 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 2: Karen for the first thing she had said to me. 1197 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 2: I sat in the driver's seat and texted my mom, 1198 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 2: telling her that I loved her. She responded with are 1199 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 2: you okay? It was late, it was out of the blue, 1200 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,839 Speaker 2: and things had gotten better between us before I knew it. 1201 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 2: I got a call from my dad and spilled everything 1202 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 2: that had happened within the two years I had been gone. 1203 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 2: He told me to come home. I told him I couldn't. Yeah, 1204 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 2: because Obie's been living with these people. 1205 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you should do though, Oh. 1206 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 2: No, uh. They had paid for the wedding and I 1207 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 2: wanted to marry the love of my life. I told 1208 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,919 Speaker 2: them we could hold off for one more day until 1209 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:49,360 Speaker 2: the wedding. 1210 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,400 Speaker 1: Where is pickles, Pickles? What is pickles. 1211 00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 2: Doting me down? Pickles is like you either won. You 1212 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,720 Speaker 2: either aren't telling what's happening, which that's also a problem 1213 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 2: because you should be telling your partner the things that 1214 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 2: are making you upset. And also that your parents, his 1215 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,760 Speaker 2: parents are threatening to take away your child. That's crazy 1216 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,240 Speaker 2: or too he knows and he's not doing anything. 1217 00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not a cool move to be like yeah, 1218 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 1: and if you try to get the law involved them 1219 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 1: calling CPS and having them take your kid away, and 1220 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: it's like, clearly you don't really care about the kid's 1221 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: well being. 1222 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 2: At that point, my parents were at the wedding and 1223 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,320 Speaker 2: my dad walked me down the aisle. Everything was perfect, 1224 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,920 Speaker 2: like a fairy tale until we went to get our 1225 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 2: wedding party photos. While we were gone, Karen managed to 1226 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 2: start a fight with my husband's real mom by yelling 1227 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 2: at her daughter for apparently sitting at a table that 1228 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,799 Speaker 2: wasn't reserved for you. Mind you, there were no designated 1229 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 2: seating arrangements. We didn't know about this until after the wedding, 1230 00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 2: when a few of our friends texted us about it. 1231 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 2: I would have lost my crap at Karen if I 1232 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 2: had known she started drama, especially since we made it 1233 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,680 Speaker 2: clear to her and everyone who received a wedding invitation 1234 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 2: that we didn't want any drama and that any drama 1235 00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:01,719 Speaker 2: starters would be punted out. I wish I could tell 1236 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 2: you things started to get better after the wedding, but 1237 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 2: that's not the case. If it wasn't us, it was 1238 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 2: always someone else. After we found an apartment, we didn't 1239 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 2: plan to tell Rob or Karen about moving out until 1240 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,800 Speaker 2: the day we were moving out. I just started packing 1241 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,040 Speaker 2: things into boxes and slowly moving them into my parents' 1242 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 2: garage since they told me I could keep them there 1243 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 2: until we got the keys to the apartment. My husband 1244 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 2: ended up telling them that we were moving out when 1245 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 2: Karen was talking about getting things ready for the baby. 1246 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,240 Speaker 2: In the basement, which was where we were stating staying. 1247 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 2: The basement was falling. Apart not to mention if there 1248 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 2: was ever a flash, flood water would come pouring in. 1249 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,920 Speaker 2: There were wolf spiders, everywhere and critters of all kinds. 1250 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,920 Speaker 2: Upstairs was no better, with nails sticking out of the 1251 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,120 Speaker 2: floorboards from ripping up the carpets. Oh right, the unfinished floors, 1252 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,440 Speaker 2: big holes in the wall due to unfinished projects that 1253 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 2: they had started the summer prior, and dry dog poop 1254 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 2: in between the unfinished hardwood. 1255 00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,680 Speaker 1: This is horrific. That's a horrific cows. 1256 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,080 Speaker 2: The dogs had gotten worse but pooping on the floor 1257 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 2: since the two and a half years I had been 1258 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 2: living with them. There was no way we were going 1259 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 2: to stay there with a baby, and the fact that 1260 00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 2: she thought it was okay was delusional. When my husband 1261 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 2: told them, Karen sneered, you two aren't gonna fail on 1262 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,880 Speaker 2: your own, and I'm gonna laugh when you come crawling back. 1263 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: Dude, I would never talk to you again. 1264 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 2: She would make comments every now and then about how 1265 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 2: we weren't going to make it and that it wasn't 1266 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 2: too late to change our minds. We had already signed 1267 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 2: the lease on the apartment, so obviously it was too late. 1268 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 2: I was so happy we would be yell out of 1269 00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,640 Speaker 2: that heck hole, out of a house. Move in day came, 1270 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 2: and within the first five minutes, Karen was yelling at 1271 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,960 Speaker 2: Rob and things started getting heated. Pickles looked at both 1272 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 2: of them and raised his voice and said, if you 1273 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 2: guys are gonna yell dude at your home, not ours. 1274 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 2: If we get a noise complaint the first day we 1275 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:51,880 Speaker 2: move in, I'm. 1276 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,440 Speaker 1: Gonna be pissed. Okay. 1277 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 2: Karen was taken aback because he had never talked to 1278 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 2: her like that in his life, because if he did 1279 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 2: in her home, she had control. 1280 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: There we go. 1281 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 2: She had absolutely no control in our home. 1282 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: That's right, take the control back back, Pickles. 1283 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 2: When everyone finally left, I looked at Pickles and told 1284 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,320 Speaker 2: him that that someday Karen was going to start something 1285 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 2: over stupid reasons again and blow up, and when she does, 1286 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,439 Speaker 2: I know exactly what I'm going to say to her. 1287 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 2: I will block her and that will be the end 1288 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 2: of things. We both hoped she wouldn't because we both 1289 00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 2: honestly cared about her and wanted her to change and 1290 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:30,480 Speaker 2: get better. But eventually the day came and she went crazy. 1291 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 1: The day of reckoning. 1292 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 2: I was two months postpartum at this point and honestly 1293 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 2: didn't need the drama I had sent her and twelve 1294 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 2: other people the same video on Facebook, talking about how 1295 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 2: the time when your baby's little goes by way too fast. 1296 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 2: Eventually they aren't going to be little anymore, and those 1297 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,200 Speaker 2: tiny fingerprits scattered all over the windows will disappear. It 1298 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 2: was something showing the importance of enjoying your time with 1299 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,320 Speaker 2: your littles while they're still little before they grow up. 1300 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 2: Instead of thinking it was a sweet video, she started 1301 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 2: going crazy, asking me if I was calling her a 1302 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,600 Speaker 2: bad mother and saying that this video meant I was 1303 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 2: taking her son away from her. He's a grown adult, 1304 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,720 Speaker 2: not a baby. I apologized to her if it gave 1305 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 2: her mixed signals and informed her that I had sent 1306 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 2: the same video to twelve other people. I just thought 1307 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 2: it was a video worth sharing with them. That didn't 1308 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,280 Speaker 2: shut her up. It got worse. She yelled at me 1309 01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 2: over text and started bringing things up. I countered them 1310 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 2: with more information, which led to another argument. Eventually, she 1311 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 2: started running out of things to bring up, so she 1312 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 2: started getting into extremely personal things just to hurt me. 1313 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,560 Speaker 2: I had a miscarriage a couple of months before the 1314 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 2: pregnancy I told you all about. She told me she 1315 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 2: would start sending me videos of people saying it's the 1316 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 2: woman's fault for having a miscarriage, since, according to her, 1317 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 2: I didn't care enough about her feelings. That was the 1318 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 2: last straw, and I went off on her. I'm not 1319 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 2: proud of the language I used, but afterward I felt 1320 01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,040 Speaker 2: relieved and then brought up when she told me she 1321 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 2: would take my child away from me, and she completely 1322 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 2: ignored my text. She ran out of excuses, so instead 1323 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 2: she talked with the wedding, how she planned the wedding, 1324 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 2: how she paid for the wedding, how she did this 1325 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,520 Speaker 2: for me and that for me. I told her that 1326 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 2: she had asked to do those things, we had never 1327 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 2: once asked her to do them. She assured us that 1328 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,720 Speaker 2: it was something that she wanted to do, so we 1329 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 2: let her. She still wasn't understanding the point and kept 1330 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 2: ignoring everything I was calling her out for. So eventually 1331 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 2: I just sat back down and asked myself if she 1332 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 2: was worth this. If she's talking to me this way, 1333 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 2: she will eventually talk to my child that way, and 1334 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 2: I didn't want that to happen. So I told her 1335 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 2: that she can call me whatever name she would like, 1336 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 2: and that it didn't matter to me anymore. She was 1337 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 2: no longer welcome on our property and we didn't ever 1338 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 2: want to see her again. She has no right to 1339 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:49,960 Speaker 2: my child, and I told her that I hoped she 1340 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 2: would eventually change, and to disrespectfully go at herself and 1341 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,880 Speaker 2: blocked her. By the way, don't block us because you 1342 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 2: can listen to full episodes stories just like this. Just 1343 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 2: go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app 1344 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 2: and search a Bookeast story time. But there is a 1345 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 2: little bit left to the story, any final thoughts. 1346 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: I think that's something you should do with all the 1347 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 1: difficult people in your lives. Sometimes you just need a 1348 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: moment to sit down and go is this worth it? 1349 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 1: Is this worth it? Because the reality is it's not 1350 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,400 Speaker 1: always as simple as just cutting someone off right away. 1351 01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,520 Speaker 1: Sometimes you know, there's the politics that go into family 1352 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: and work and life whatever, But you really have to 1353 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 1: sometimes Simmarren Simmeret and just go is this what I want? 1354 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: And clearly this person is not worth it, even though 1355 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 1: she's your mother in law. She's terrible, she's a monster, 1356 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 1: and you and Pickles are better off without her nasty, disgusting, 1357 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 1: dried dog poop life colliding with yours. 1358 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,800 Speaker 2: Rob is still in our lives because, as I've said before, 1359 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,400 Speaker 2: he is an absolute angel and did nothing wrong to us. 1360 01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 2: But Karen gets jealous and if she can't see her, 1361 01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 2: but he can't either. He still comes over every now 1362 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,720 Speaker 2: and then when she's working or is out of the house, 1363 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 2: but part of me can't help but feel awful about 1364 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 2: blocking her. 1365 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:10,840 Speaker 1: So am I the ale? 1366 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 2: And edit I added the picture of my wedding dress 1367 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 2: in the comments and that is the end that story. 1368 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,760 Speaker 1: So you're not an ale. You just have empathy. 1369 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,840 Speaker 2: You just have sympathy. And I think your husband is 1370 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 2: not an a hole per se, but he is. There 1371 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 2: is a problem there that needs to be addressed. 1372 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: Pickle, Yeah, Pickles needs to stop. Pickles needs to be 1373 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,920 Speaker 1: a whole deal instead of like a sandwich slice pickle. 1374 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 1: He needs to not be a floppy, floppy, thin pickle. 1375 01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: He needs to be the big pickles that they put 1376 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 1: in the bag. 1377 01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, because he doesn't have the excuse of saying like, oh, well, 1378 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,080 Speaker 2: I couldn't stand up to her because we were living 1379 01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 2: with her and she would have kicked us out or 1380 01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 2: like anything along those lines. He has their they have 1381 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 2: their own place. 1382 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Now, so yeah, needs to stand out regardless it needs 1383 01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: to be like, you can't ever speak to my partner 1384 01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,439 Speaker 1: this way. Yeah, and if you do this again, you're 1385 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,240 Speaker 1: never gonna see me or our child. Exactly