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Speaker 1: everybody with a social media account can go on and

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Speaker 1: and spout whatever they want. Everybody thinks it's the best

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Speaker 1: thing in the world to do, to go for it,

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Speaker 1: and nobody's second guess is anybody for going for the win?

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Speaker 1: But we live, we live you and I grew up

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Speaker 1: with Monday Morning Quarterback, and you know, it's one of

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Speaker 1: the iconic articles in the whole You go back and

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Speaker 1: second guest coaches on Sunday afternoon on Monday. That's what

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Speaker 1: everybody does. Now, they don't do it if you go

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Speaker 1: for it. So maybe maybe guys will get the message

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Speaker 1: that that's what you just gotta do so you don't

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Speaker 1: get second guest. Yeah, I think there is a right

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Speaker 1: time and a wrong time to do that. But more

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Speaker 1: and more, you got a lot more coaches just going

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Speaker 1: forward on fourth down. This year, we saw that I

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Speaker 1: think there will be exceptions. You know, they have the

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Speaker 1: live analytics at the ready, with somebody up in the

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Speaker 1: booth telling them, this is your probability of getting a

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Speaker 1: first down here, right now, at this point in the

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Speaker 1: game against this defense. So they slice it a hundred

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Speaker 1: ways and do it instantaneously to give the head coach

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Speaker 1: the best information so he can make the best decision.

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Speaker 1: But it's not just what the numbers say. As we've

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Speaker 1: talked about, Steve, you can't use analytics in a vacuum.

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Speaker 1: You have to figure you have to not only consider

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Speaker 1: the defense you're going against, how the game has gone,

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Speaker 1: what the score is, how much time you have left,

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Speaker 1: but how your offense is playing, how have they done

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Speaker 1: in the red zone, how have they done on fourth

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Speaker 1: down if there were previous ones in the game. So

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Speaker 1: all of that factors in, and I think sometimes some

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Speaker 1: people lose sight of that and just strictly adhere to

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Speaker 1: what the numbers say. And you can't play football with

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Speaker 1: a slide rule. You gotta play it on the field

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Speaker 1: with people, and that's the difference. Y. Yeah, And we've

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Speaker 1: said a ton on this. The simple problem, the simple

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Speaker 1: dilemma that you get in with analytics. No matter how

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Speaker 1: deep a dive you go into, is this They are not,

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Speaker 1: and never have been, and perhaps never will be predictive. Right,

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Speaker 1: They can't predict what's going to happen on the next play.

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Speaker 1: They can only tell you what's happened in the past. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the probabilities based on past evidence. And that's we have

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Speaker 1: a full show. Yeah, we have a full show for

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Speaker 1: you today. Obviously it is obl fan Friday, which means

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Speaker 1: the mail bag is open for any and all of

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Speaker 1: your questions. Get those in at eight oh three, five fifty.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to your calls on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the break here as we're coming up on it very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Second hour of the show, our weekly appearance from senior

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Speaker 1: producer from NFL Films, Great Sell, will join us go

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Speaker 1: over some x's and oh's for this Bill's Panther's matchup,

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Speaker 1: and I'm very interested Steve to get his thoughts on

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Speaker 1: this Panther's pass rush, which I think is underrated and

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Speaker 1: now becomes an even bigger part of the equation here

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Speaker 1: with the strong likelihood that Dion Dawkins is not playing

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Speaker 1: on Sunday and more line shuffling will ensue. Final half

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Speaker 1: hour of the show, we have the latest installment of

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Speaker 1: Tasker's teammates, as we see how long it takes Steve

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Speaker 1: to guess which teammate we are talking about with our

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Speaker 1: vague and cryptic set of clues. So that's what's coming

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Speaker 1: your way, and if we're lucky, we might even get

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Speaker 1: some post practice sound. I know tarn Johnson and Tremaine

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Speaker 1: Edmonds schedule to address the media after practice today, so

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Speaker 1: there are some notable comments from them. We'll try to

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Speaker 1: bring those to you before we are off the air

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Speaker 1: this afternoon, but we will take a break here and

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Speaker 1: when we come back, we will get to your phone

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Speaker 1: calls at eight oh three oh five fifty, So sit

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Speaker 1: right where you are. We'll get to you X here

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live Presentybody collid to Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 1: game sponsor, Independent Health, Independent Health. You deserve the red

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Speaker 1: shirt treatment, Steve. We got to get to the phones,

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Speaker 1: so we open up the mail bag here and we

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Speaker 1: begin today with Chris in Hamburg. Chris, what do you

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Speaker 1: have for us? You're on One Bill's Live, Sir, this

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Speaker 1: is Chris cool. How are you today? Good? Good? What

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Speaker 1: do you got for us? Go ahead? Um? Yeah. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I'd like to make a remark about the

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Speaker 1: return game. UM. I like it when they stay in

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Speaker 1: the end zone, take the ball, let it get a

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Speaker 1: touchback out of it. It gets your twenty five yards automatically,

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Speaker 1: and you don't risk having penalties on the run back

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Speaker 1: because you changed the angles and the blockers end up

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Speaker 1: holding someone. Uh. The Second of all, Tyler Bass I

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Speaker 1: think is so unusual among kickers in the league, and

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Speaker 1: that he's an integrated part of defending against the returns.

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Speaker 1: After the second touchdown last week, he was the one

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Speaker 1: last scoring the guy out of bounds at the forty

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Speaker 1: yard line, and to my earlier point, of course, he

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Speaker 1: got called back anyways because of a holding UM. And

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Speaker 1: last of all, Steve a couple about a month ago,

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Speaker 1: it's like Lofton is talking about you and possibly going

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Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. One of the things that's

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Speaker 1: changed in the game since then, and that people don't

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Speaker 1: don't seem to think about, is you and Mark Pike

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Speaker 1: had to break those mini wedges. How is the game changing?

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that they want them to

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Speaker 1: let you, thank you, Thanks Chris Well. It's a very

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Speaker 1: it's a vastly different landscaping special teams than it was

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Speaker 1: when when I was playing. The rules on kickoff and punt,

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Speaker 1: punt return and kickoff return are vastly different than when

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Speaker 1: I played, and most of it is because of player safety.

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Speaker 1: I was gifted the opportunity to be in the room

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Speaker 1: when the league came together and decided they were going

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Speaker 1: to change the kickoff rules to where now you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a standing start kickoff, a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of touchbacks, those kind of things, all that stuff. Players

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Speaker 1: outside the numbers. You gotta have players outside the numbers.

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Speaker 1: You can't have more than so many players on one

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Speaker 1: side of the ball or the other. You got to

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Speaker 1: have eleven eight of your eleven players within ten or

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Speaker 1: fifteen yards of the ball when it's kicked on the

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Speaker 1: return team. That is so all of those things have

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Speaker 1: changed it vastly and certainly I remember, yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: a wedgebuster coming down and and it was dangerous, and

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Speaker 1: that's it was one of the It was the most

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Speaker 1: dangerous play in football, without question. You had guys getting

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Speaker 1: concussed at maybe one per game. It was dangerous. Because

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Speaker 1: you had players going in opposite directions and they weren't

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Speaker 1: trying to avoid each other, neither one of them. So

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Speaker 1: it was pretty dangerous. But one of the atmos, one

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Speaker 1: of the overriding themes that was in the meeting that

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Speaker 1: I went to when they did revamp all of this stuff,

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Speaker 1: which I which gave me a lot of a lot

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Speaker 1: of encouragement about what was in the future of special teams,

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Speaker 1: was that the league seemed at that meeting to be

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Speaker 1: very committed to keeping the foot in the game. They

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Speaker 1: needed to keep punting the football, and they needed to

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Speaker 1: keep kicking it off. They wanted those things to be

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Speaker 1: a traditional part of the game in some way, shape

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Speaker 1: or form. Certainly they've changed it, but they want those

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Speaker 1: things in the game. They want special teams to be

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Speaker 1: a part of the game, and that gives me hope

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Speaker 1: for the few true special teams. It's vastly different than

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Speaker 1: it was when I played, absolutely and because of that,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to compare eras. I'm not gonna say this

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Speaker 1: era that in the current day that we're in where

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Speaker 1: is worse than the one I played in at all?

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Speaker 1: Not at all. There are some phenomenal players on special

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Speaker 1: teams players that would have been successful in any era,

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Speaker 1: just like there were in my era. So um, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Mark Pike was as good

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Speaker 1: as special teams players you will ever come across the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. You can in ease in the conversation

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Speaker 1: with every single guy, Me, him, Um, other guys, Match

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Speaker 1: Slater of the current age, there's one hundred and one hundred,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Mitchell. There's a hundred names you could I could

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Speaker 1: list down and say, yeah, these guys are phenomenal special

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Speaker 1: teams players to be good in any era. So there

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Speaker 1: are always going to be guys that fill those gaps,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you hope that they get some reward

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Speaker 1: of than just making a tackle at some point in

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Speaker 1: their career. You wish they could all be a Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl or you wish they could all be All Pro

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Speaker 1: at some point. You wish they could all make a

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Speaker 1: ton of cash and all that because they you know,

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Speaker 1: they're great football players and they deserve it. But the

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Speaker 1: game has very much changed in special teams that if

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Speaker 1: that was your question, Chris, I don't know, but yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a vastly different landscape on special teams

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Speaker 1: than it was twenty years ago. I mean, people, you

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Speaker 1: get collisions that were so violent. Some guys would get

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Speaker 1: knocked out cold on some of those. Not every week,

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Speaker 1: but you know, somebody gets hit, right, I mean we

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Speaker 1: almost saw back in two thousand and seven, we almost

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Speaker 1: saw Kevin Everett get paralyzed for life. And because of

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Speaker 1: the quick work of doctor Cappuccino, he basically saved him

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Speaker 1: that was because of a head on collision that existed

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Speaker 1: before the rules changed. So it is unquestionably safer, But

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Speaker 1: as Steve said, it is unquestionably any different as well.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, Brownie. Even the tackle that Kevin Everett

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Speaker 1: made was a tackle. It wasn't taken on a wedge

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Speaker 1: or anything. He hit the ball carrier. That could still

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Speaker 1: happen then, and last night we saw Parnum for the

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Speaker 1: Chargers get carted off on a stretcher on a backboard.

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Speaker 1: And I still don't know. We still don't know what

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Speaker 1: he's going through. There's been no updates, have been sketchy

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Speaker 1: at best. It doesn't in those instances usually that's not

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Speaker 1: a good sign at all. Well, right, and you knew

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Speaker 1: what he had right away, because we've seen guys that

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Speaker 1: are concussed their arms kind of locked out in place.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like the brain shuts off to the rest

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Speaker 1: of the body for a little bit to take care

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Speaker 1: of itself. Almost right, And with the way he whipped

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Speaker 1: his head on the turf there when he hit the

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Speaker 1: ground was violent and unfortunate. So hopefully he's doing all right.

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Speaker 1: I think the last report we saw they were still

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Speaker 1: running tests and he was in stable condition, so hopefully

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Speaker 1: that is still very much the case. Let's get back

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Speaker 1: to the phones for more of your mail bag questions.

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Speaker 1: We go to Herman and ken Moore. Next, what do

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Speaker 1: you got for us? Herm h Steve, I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you a question. Don't you think the coach last

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Speaker 1: night was wrong for eating this? For one field? Go

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Speaker 1: down there? What is she thinking of? That's a good Herm.

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Speaker 1: That's a good that's a good question, and it's it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: We just had this conversation the first I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you were listening to Herman. We had this conversation

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Speaker 1: in the first segment. Everybody except like like you and

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Speaker 1: some some guys like you are like saying, this guy's

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Speaker 1: the greatest thing since sliced bread. Because he kept going

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Speaker 1: for it and didn't get it. They left nine points

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Speaker 1: on the table in a game that went to overtime. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: And and here's another thing I was looking for in

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Speaker 1: over the Twitter accounts and everybody's commenting on that last night.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, and they it didn't work out for him

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Speaker 1: last night. I don't. You can't make any argument to

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Speaker 1: the contrary. Now, it might have been the right decision,

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Speaker 1: but it did not work out last night. And I

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Speaker 1: think it would have worked out better for them had

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Speaker 1: they taken the three field goals on those fourth downs

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Speaker 1: instead of trying to go for it. They met. You know,

640
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: so you're never gonna guess one hundred percent right because

641
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: you know on the game, on the plays that it's

642
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: not gonna work, you kick the field goal, and if

643
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna work, you go for it. But you don't

644
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Speaker 1: know that beforehand. But last night it did not work

645
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Speaker 1: out for the Chargers. Now, there was a tweet out

646
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Speaker 1: here about some games that the Chargers have been through

647
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Speaker 1: this year with Brandon s. Taylor's head coach, and there

648
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: have been almost a handful of instances where it worked

649
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: out exactly the way it was supposed to for the Charger,

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Speaker 1: whether they got the fourth down or not. So they've

651
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: won games because they go for it consistently. So in

652
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: a game like last night, Yeah, Herman, that stinks for

653
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: the Charges because it didn't work out for him and

654
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: they lost the game, but they still went to overtime,

655
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: stunning a chance to win it later on even though

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00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: they went for it. But they left a ton of

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00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: points on the In fact, they left twelve points on

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Speaker 1: the I'm sorry, they left nine points with the field

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Speaker 1: goals on the table, and as it turned out, they

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00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: left twenty one points on the table because they couldn't

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00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: punch it in. They didn't get a touchdown in first

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Speaker 1: and goal three different times. So as a roe night

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Speaker 1: for Yeah. And I don't know, Steve, if you saw

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Speaker 1: what Staley said after the game and he was asked

665
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: about it, he basically said, that's the way we're gonna play.

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00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: That's how we're gonna get to where we want to

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00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: be as a football team by playing it that way.

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00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: So he doubled out on his decisions. And I'll say this,

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00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: in the game, it's like everything Brownie. And I know

670
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: we say it a lot and sometimes maybe it's overdone,

671
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: but I think there really is something too, the fact

672
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: that the more you do it, the better you get

673
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: at it. Like when you run the ball, the more

674
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: you run it, the better you get at it. The

675
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: more you rush the past or the better you get

676
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: at it. The more you go for it on fourth down,

677
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: and the more you go for it on fourth and

678
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: goal or fourth and short, the better you get at it.

679
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: Because your mind rises up and says, listen, you remember

680
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: your failures as much as your successes, and your failures

681
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: are what teach you the most, and learn the hard

682
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: lessons that are ingrained. So you get better at it

683
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: because of the hard lessons and the failures you have.

684
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: So when you get later in the season, you've gone

685
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: for it every single fourth down. Think about it. Now.

686
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: It's like you get there and it's like, oh, it's

687
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: fourth down, Well, let's go. We're gonna go for it.

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00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: You don't even have to look over the sideline say oh,

689
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: are we gonna go forward? No? Yeah, we are, Okay, Okay, No,

690
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: you're already there. You're already saying okay, let's line up,

691
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: let's go what's the play going to be this time?

692
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. And it's a whole different mindset

693
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: walking back into the huddle, let alone coming out of

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00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: the huddle. So the more you do it, the better

695
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: you get at It's like everything else. And these clubs

696
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: that ingrain that into their teams, I think do them

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00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: a service in that respect. I've never been a go

698
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: for it every time kind of guy, but there is

699
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: that I do believe in that, that phenomenon that makes

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00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: you better when you go forward more. Yeah, and apparently

701
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley is that guy. Victor and Tonawanda is up next.

702
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Speaker 1: You're all one, Bills Live. Victor h Yeah, good afternoon

703
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: you guys. Yeah, I was wondering, Um, you know, after

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00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: the Tennessee in Pittsburgh game, you could see that the Bills,

705
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: you could predict that the Bills We're going to lose

706
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: the upcoming higher games such as the New England game,

707
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: the champ at Bay game, and they will lose again

708
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: again against New England coming up in two weeks. You

709
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: could see that the defense and the offense couldn't put

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00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: it all together. And then in the papers say, the

711
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: papers say, um, if your quarterback ends up with more

712
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: yardage than your running backs, You're in trouble. And then

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00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: I just for the last year and a half, I've

714
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: been saying we need new running backs. You can't um,

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00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: you can't rely on Singletarian must They're not great. I

716
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: think they belong in the CFL. So I just you

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00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: could see that the defense, they can't put it all together.

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00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: In the offense, the offensive line it breaks down, and

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00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: the defense can rush to put um to give the

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Speaker 1: quarterback any uh, they can put any on the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's easy to preduce. I'm surprised you

722
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: guys couldn't seen at the builds. We're going to lose

723
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Speaker 1: against New England and then Tampa Bay, and they're going

724
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Speaker 1: to lose against against um Um against New England in

725
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: two weeks. Well, in all fairness, in all fairness, victor,

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00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't think we were guaranteeing victory against those teams

727
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Speaker 1: in any of those games. So, and I'll be the

728
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: first to tell you that I don't own a crystal ball,

729
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure Steve doesn't either. So if you

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00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: had convincing evidence that they weren't going to win any

731
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: of those games, well good on you for that you're

732
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: better than we are. But I find it interesting that

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Speaker 1: you basically just said the problem here is a running

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00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: back problem, and then you listed a litany of other

735
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: issues that you have with the team, including the offensive line,

736
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 1: the defensive line, the pass rush, and four other things.

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00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: But the running backs are the crux are your problem.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you kind of defeated your own argument, with

739
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: all due respect, So you can't point to one thing

740
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: and then list five other things and say it's the

741
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: running beats. It's easy to pick winners and losers after

742
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: it's happened. I mean, he went out a limb and said,

743
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: why don't you go out and bet everything you own

744
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: on the New England Patriots in two weeks. Then if

745
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: you're that sure, because I'm not, you know, I've I have.

746
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: We're not allowed to bet on games, so you know,

747
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: so you know, because we're employee all the whole nine yards,

748
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: we're not allowed to. And even when I was allowed to,

749
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: I want to know part of it because I don't

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00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: know who's gonna win these games. I mean I don't.

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00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: So if you say you know, bless your heart, but

752
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: you can go into those locker rooms and try and

753
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: convince those guys they have no shot at winning that game,

754
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: and you're gonna You're gonna have a hard argument to win.

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00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: So I gets you have to take It's easy to

756
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: say it now, but and we'll see what happens in

757
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: two weeks. You still got to play the game. We

758
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: have to take a break here, but when we come back.

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00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: ESPN's Dan Grossie has an update on Saturday's Raiders Browns game.

760
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: As apparently there are discussions about possibly postponing the game

761
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: till early next week. We will get you those details

762
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: and take more of your phone calls when we return.

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00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: told there have been NFL and NFLPA discussions today about

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00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: rescheduling Saturday's Raiders Browns game, likely to Monday or Tuesday.

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00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: A decision could be announced within the hour before the

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00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: Raiders are scheduled to travel to Cleveland. Adam Schefter his

777
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: colleague followed up by saying the Raiders are supposed to

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00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: board buses to go to the airport at eleven fifteen

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00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: Pacific time two fifteen Eastern time, and some players have

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00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: said they are being told at this time to stand down.

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00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: In other words, don't bother going to the buses just yet.

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00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: So it's a hold the phone moment for sure. The

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00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: pressure from the players association might in fact move this game.

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00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: I just don't know what two days difference is going

785
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: to make. Not only that Steve, the balance here could

786
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,240
Speaker 1: swing the other way. What happens if the Raiders suddenly

787
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: have three or four cases and then it turns into

788
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: five cases. Now they're missing people. It might be it

789
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: might be just the ability of them to get certain

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00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: guys up to speed so they can actually run plays. Okay,

791
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: it might be just just just to get them so

792
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: we can at least call a play, you know. Um,

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00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: the problem with the NFL. It's not like hockey or

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00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: or baseball or um basketball even where you know, guard

795
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: that guy right in basketball, or you know, you take

796
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: the wing and stand there and wait for the shot.

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00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: You know that guy in basketball. I because in football

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00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 1: you have to learn a language basically, and that takes time.

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00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: You can't just go out there. You can't draw plays

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00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: in the dirt um and you don't have enough time

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00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: because of the play clock to say, hey, go out

802
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: and run a twelve yard out. You you run, you

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00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: line up here and you run a such and such route,

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00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: and then you run out here, run such and such

805
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: a route. You guys slide left on the past protection

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00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: and you can't. You don't have time in the play

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00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: clock to tell everybody what to do unless you just

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00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: have keywords to do it right. So it's like far

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00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: left Z motion, you know, heavy protection on three. You

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00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: know bobcat y z on three. You know all these

811
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: kind of words that you put in. You gotta have

812
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: them because because you gotta, you got no time to

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00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: tell eleven guys what to do and then to checks

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00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: they're supposed to make. If something happens on the defensive side.

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00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: You gotta have of a language, and you gotta have

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00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: a couple of days to learn at least enough of

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00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: that language so you don't go out there and stink listeners.

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00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: If you had the over under at one and a

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00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: half on Bobcat for the show, you can collect your

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00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: winnings Bobcat. Because Steve said it and then I repeated it,

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00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: So there you go. We do have to get back

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00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: to the phones, though, and we go to Kevin and

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00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: Hamburg next. Kevin, you're on one Bill's life. Hey guys,

824
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: how are you doing big for taking my call? You

825
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: bet n um. The thing I want to say is,

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00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure other fans Hope might think the same way

827
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: as I'm not thrilled about Josh playing. I know he

828
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: could get hurt in any game, but we had the

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00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: thorn in the side pat Patriots coming up next week,

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00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: and the thought of him not playing if he got

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00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 1: hurt worse is like a scary thought. And we already

832
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: lost with Josh. I don't even want to think about

833
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: the thought of playing him without even though he could

834
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: still get hurt. I mean, it's like you don't I

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00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: don't know, just one of those things I just hope,

836
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: but don't come back to bitus and the rerun. So, so, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: is you're concerned the fact that Dean Dawkins might not

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00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: be playing and he might not be adequately protected, or

839
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 1: you're worried about him re entering his foot. What's the

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00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: concern at Phoebe all of the above, as they say

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00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: a multiple choice, Okay, okay, and I mean yeah, I

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00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: think you just have to remind I think you just

843
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 1: have to remind yourself Kevin, that it's a one injury sport.

844
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: Guys are going to get hurt. You can't. You can't

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00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: play this game scared, and Steve would probably be the

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00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: first to tell you that, because that's how you get hurt.

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00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: When you play not to get hurt, that's when something

848
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: bad happens. You got to play the game full tilt

849
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: every week, provided your body allows you to do so.

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00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: And all indications are Josh has made some dramatic improvements

851
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: with his foot this week and he's good to go.

852
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: So if that's the case, then you put him out there.

853
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: And the bottom line is this, you need the game.

854
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: You've got to keep winning. Here. You've got four games

855
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: to play. You probably need all of them to ensure

856
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 1: a playoff birth. You need at least three of them

857
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: to have a shot at the postseason, so they got

858
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: work to do. Josh has to play because he's your

859
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: best chance to win. I mean, LA lost last night,

860
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: which helps in the wild card standings, but can but

861
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: Kansas City kept winning, so you know they're the top

862
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: seed now by themselves, at least depending on what New

863
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: England and Tennessee do this weekend. But let's squeeze one

864
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: more in here before the break. We're gonna go to

865
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: Andrew and Rochester. What do you have for us? Andrew,

866
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: you're on one Bill's Live. Well, first of all, thank

867
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: you so much for taking the call. I really appreciate it.

868
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: Love the show and let me putting a friendly argument, lie.

869
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: I love the going for it on fourth down when

870
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: it's especially close to the goal line, and a lot

871
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: of that, I believe is because now that the offensive

872
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: players in the league are getting so prominent, like Josh

873
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: Allen and going back to the Steelers game too with

874
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. I just want my guy, who I believe

875
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: is the best player on my team, Josh Allen, to

876
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: be the one with the ball in his hands when

877
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: the moment accounts not Tom Brady marching up the field

878
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: for a touchdown drive ending the game. So and I

879
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: am willing to live and die by it. So that

880
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: includes a Tennessee game when Josh Allen slipped on that

881
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: fourth down. And I mean I was a proponent of

882
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: going for it then and I'm still a proponent. I'm

883
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: going for it now just because I would just rather

884
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: with my guy on the field, who I believe is

885
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: our best player doing what he does best and again

886
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: throws I'm sorry to interrupt, Andrew, I wanted to throw

887
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: a curveball at you. Would you feel the same way

888
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: if after ten attempts the Bills for the season were

889
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: three for ten converting those would that change anything for

890
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: you when you're thinking or no, you see that is tough.

891
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: But then I guess it comes down to again, who

892
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: are you playing and who's your best player? And I mean,

893
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: I do understand that we haven't had the success yet,

894
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: but I feel like last year when all those close games,

895
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: it kind of did pay off a little bit more.

896
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: And last year, I know Sean McDermott was pretty aggressive

897
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: last year as well, more aggressive than he of being

898
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: this year at least, So I understand it hasn't worked out,

899
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: but then again, that's why I'm willing to stick with

900
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: it even when it doesn't go well. So that's why

901
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw in my pitch thing. I'd rather have,

902
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, my guy being Josh Allen with the ball

903
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: in his hands. And again going back to that Steelers

904
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game with Lamark Jackson and Mark Andrews, Mark Andrews

905
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,399
Speaker 1: drops it for the go ahead win and the two

906
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: point conversion. Extremely standing for the Baltimore fans, it's good

907
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: for US Bills fans, but I understand why they did it.

908
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: And if that was my team in that situation, I

909
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: would want Lamar Jackson throwing. It's Marky Andrews and my

910
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: two best players on the field doing what they do best,

911
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: and an unfortunate mistake happens, the ball doesn't get their

912
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: balls dropped, and that's the game. But again, it's much more.

913
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: It's a better way to go down than having tombraating March.

914
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: You can live with it is what you can live

915
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: with it. And if you're saying, Andrew, thanks for the car,

916
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: put the ball in the hands of your best player.

917
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: But here's the problem. I mean, well, no matter what

918
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: you do. Even if you kick the field goal, you're

919
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: still going to give it back to their best player

920
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: with the ball in his hands. Now, would you rather

921
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: give it back to him with no points being exchanged

922
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: and have him go from inside his five yard line

923
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: or his twenty five yard line because of a kickoff

924
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: touchback after a field goal? I get the I get it,

925
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: and I agree with you if you're gonna go give

926
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: it to your best player. You know. That's why in

927
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: those situations I heard, I've had it, I've said it

928
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: on the air, I've said it in the booth when

929
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: I was an analyst for CBS. One of the things

930
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: you always do is when you get down to those moments,

931
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: those fourth down moments, when those goal to go moments

932
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: and the game is on the line and you're in

933
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: overtime or whatever, you know, you name the moment you want.

934
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: You don't think about whether you're gonna run it or

935
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: pass it, or where they're gonna dump it off or

936
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna hit the check down. You don't worry about

937
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: whether you're you know, gonna go right or left. You

938
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: worry about where the best player is on your team

939
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: and how you're gonna get him the ball, whether you

940
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 1: throw it to him or whether you hand it to him,

941
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: he's gotta Those are the guys you're gonna win and

942
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: live and die with. And I and I. He's right,

943
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: Andrew's right. When the game is on the line, you

944
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: want your best player to have the ball. And that's

945
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: if it's your best go forth. Yeah, And if it's

946
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: your best guy, it's a lot of easier as a

947
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: lit or you put it in the hands of your

948
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: best player. It didn't work out, at least we had

949
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: it in the hands of our best guy. Break tie

950
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: for us. Greg co Sell from NFL Films is coming

951
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: up next. Some x's and o's on Bill's Panthers. Stay

952
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: tuned at a Steve Tasker who has been all over

953
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 1: the field. Kind of unique. He was kind of a

954
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're

955
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: not even in the straded fear of normalcy, all right?

956
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: Our number two here on a Friday, and you know

957
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: what that means. It means. Senior producer from NFL Films,

958
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: Greg Cosell joins us as he is madly scribbling on

959
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: his flip cards to find out who the heck is

960
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: playing this week with the rest of us. How you doing, Greg? Unfortunately,

961
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: unfortunately that's kind of the case. And it's it's there's

962
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 1: no other way to say it, you know, it's unfortunate. Yeah,

963
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: it is no question about it. And how how like

964
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: and ye're just like us. I mean, we're only a

965
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: thousand miles from the center of this and where this

966
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: decision is going to be made and there, you know,

967
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: we have no idea. We're gonna find out like everybody

968
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: else does. But what's your gut tell you? I think

969
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: with the they have said that they were going to

970
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: be very reticent to reschedule and do that, and then

971
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: but they did it last year and they did it

972
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: on short notice. Um, this seems different. There's two sides

973
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: of the coin, as you said, One, how serious is

974
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: the illness at this point for the guys who have

975
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: it have tested positive? And two how much is it

976
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: gonna cost? And what's it? What are the damages if

977
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: they just say, hey, we're not gonna We're gonna move

978
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: the game. Um, right, that's the that's the question, right.

979
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: You know, as we found out after the season with

980
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 1: a series of articles that were written by several people

981
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: last year, the league went to great pain in the

982
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: twenty twenty season to make sure they had margins for

983
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: error and leeway to reschedule games. We're not at that

984
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: point now. So when you talk about rescheduling, Steve, all

985
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: you're saying is moving the game a day or two.

986
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's a Sunday game, could you move

987
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: it to Monday? Yeah? Could you move it to Tuesday?

988
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: Sure you could. But you're also going down the home

989
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: stretch where I believe the number is twenty five. I

990
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: could be off by a team or two, but I

991
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: believe twenty five teams still have a realistic shot to

992
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I think, there you go. I could

993
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: be wrong, and so you know it's you're going in

994
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: the last month of the season. You really don't want

995
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: to get in a situation one where you're moving games,

996
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: but two where you're playing with players who you know

997
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: are not the players. So I don't know the answer.

998
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: People are way smarter than I am have to figure

999
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: this out. I certainly am not a virologist. I couldn't

1000
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: speak to anything about the strains or anything like that,

1001
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 1: or the variants. But they have to figure something out

1002
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: because it seems like We're in a situation where twenty

1003
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: five thirty players a day are going to be are

1004
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: gonna going to test positive, and that's obviously not conducive

1005
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: to playing. No it's not. But this game, at least

1006
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 1: as far as the Bills and the Panthers are concerned,

1007
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: hasn't been overtly affected. Dion Dawkins did go on the

1008
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: COVID reserve list today, so they're figures to probably be

1009
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: some shuffling up front for the Bills. We don't know

1010
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 1: what the plans are, Steve and I. Our best guest

1011
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: is Spencer Brown flips to left tackle, Darryl Williams out

1012
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 1: to right tackle from right guard, and then Feliciano back

1013
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 1: in the starting lineup with like Bucker at the other guard.

1014
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: That's our best guests as to what the line will

1015
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: look like. What can you say, though, Greg, about the

1016
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: past rushing abilities of this Carolina Panthers unit. We know

1017
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: that Hassan Reddicks had a very nice season. We also

1018
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: know that paper they're fourth in sack percentage and tenth

1019
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: in sacks. This maybe describe some of their pressure success

1020
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: this year. Well, you know, it's funny because obviously Carolina

1021
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: most of the focus by the media and others has

1022
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: been on the quarterback situation, first with Sam Darnell and

1023
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: then with the return of Cam Newton. And offensively they're

1024
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: a mess, but defensively they're very good. Chris and I

1025
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: think to look at this game as if, Okay, well

1026
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: it's it's no problem, it's Carolina would be a mistake

1027
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 1: because of the matchup on that side of the ball.

1028
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: Brian Burns and a Son Reddick are both very very

1029
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: good edge rushers, very good. Derek Brown inside is a load.

1030
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: They're quick and fast at linebacker. They play a lot

1031
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: of different people in the secondary, and no Aj Boyer

1032
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 1: I believe is out this week and he's been playing

1033
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: a lot in the slot. But they play a lot

1034
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: of different people in the secondary. They play big nickel

1035
00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: with three safeties. They're very multiple in their looks. They

1036
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: disguise and they use late movement. This is not an

1037
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: easy defense to play against given what they do and look,

1038
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: the reality is is that the Bills O line and

1039
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: now Dawkins being likely out. As you said, the Bills

1040
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 1: O line has not been really strong and past protection.

1041
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: We'll see what the plan is this week. Um My

1042
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: guess is you will likely get the first run by

1043
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: a running back before the first play of the second

1044
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 1: possession of the third. Right, that's just a guess. Yeah,

1045
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: it's a good bet. Yeah. What do you think, Steve,

1046
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: You think I might be right on that one. Yeah,

1047
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: I think that's right. And obviously in reference to the

1048
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: last game, when the Bills didn't hand it off, they

1049
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: did hand it off to a running back, but it

1050
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: was a fake punt. So yeah, Josh Allen didn't hand

1051
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: it off to anybody the entire first half. So yeah,

1052
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: that that seems to be a difference. Uh, going, it's

1053
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: going to be a difference. But I think this is

1054
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: a game also if you talk about the other side

1055
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: of the football, I mean, if if both the offenses struggle,

1056
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: the Bills could find themselves in another six to nine

1057
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,439
Speaker 1: game like they found themselves in Jackson, yes, a month

1058
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: and a half ago. Yeah. The problem with playing teams

1059
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 1: that you're better than, and the Bills are theoretically better

1060
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: than than the Panthers, is you don't want to get

1061
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: stuck in those close games. Because look, I remember watching

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00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: that Jaguars Bills game both on TV and then watching

1063
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: the tape, and when you watch it live of course,

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00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 1: you get a totally different field, as you guys know,

1065
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: but when you're watching it live, and all of a sudden,

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00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: you get in the third quarter and you know how

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00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 1: it is, Steve, you know you played, and you start

1068
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: the pressure starts going on the offense. Every possession seems

1069
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: to just generate a little more pressure, and every play

1070
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: becomes a bigger play, and it's all of a sudden

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00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: you're in the fourth quarter and you realize we may

1072
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: only have six or seven or eight more plays in

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00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: the game, and you know you don't want to be

1074
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 1: in that situation at all. So the question is helping

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00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: to get off to a fast start. Look, the reality

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00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: it is they're not going to change dramatically. Sure, my

1077
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: guess is they will hand the ball off the backs more,

1078
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: but they're not going to become a run first team.

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00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: It's going to be Josh Allen and they're going to

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00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: try to throw the ball. And look what Josh Allen

1081
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: did in the second half last week was miraculous. It

1082
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: was warrior like. It was arguably one of the best

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00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: halves by a quarterback I've seen this year. But it's

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00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: just we've discussed this, it's just so hard to play

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00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: that way, as you guys know, right, it's like he

1086
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: has to literally put the team on his back. Looking

1087
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacks for Carolina, we have to well, just

1088
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: from this standpoint, because you know, after we watched Cam

1089
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: Newton last year play for New England, I said, at

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00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: the end of the season, he's not starting caliber in

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00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: this league anymore. He is not good enough to be

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00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: a starter in this league. Now he gets this opportunity

1093
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: with the Darnold injury, and it looks like Matt Rule

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00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: has no problem putting in p. J. Walker when he

1095
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: feels the offense needs a spark or it's kind of

1096
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: sputtered with Newton at the controls? Is what would you

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01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: say is the biggest difference that Walker brings to the

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01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: field that maybe Newton doesn't do as well. We've heard

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01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: he's more of a true thrower, But where do you

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01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: come down on that. Well, I think Walker is an

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01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: easier thrower at this point and the ball comes out better.

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Speaker 1: But Walker is a little scatter shot. I think Walker

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01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: doesn't see things particularly well. So I think they're really

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01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: hurting at the quarterback position. And Matt Rule is in

1105
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: a situation, a really difficult situation. Because he truly does

1106
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: not have a quarterback. And when you don't have a quarterback,

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01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's like in baseball. I don't know if

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01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: you guys follow a baseball, but if you have bad

1109
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: starting pitching and you're down five nothing every game in

1110
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: the fourth inning, it makes it seem like your whole

1111
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: team stinks, you know, and they don't have a quarterback.

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01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 1: So it makes it appear very often that just everything

1113
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: is bad, and it's just a really difficult I'm being honest,

1114
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: it's a difficult offense to watch on tape. And the

1115
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: thing is they don't have bad skilled players. I mean,

1116
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: DJ Moore is a very good receiver, Robbie Anderson can

1117
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: still run. You know, they don't have bad players on

1118
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball, but they just do

1119
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: not have any kind of consistency at the quarterback position whatsoever.

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01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 1: And Matt Rule has been really forthright. He says, listen,

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01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna play both guys because that's where we're at

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01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: right now. And I think that's a little bit refreshing

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01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: and unbelievable, and coming from a head coach in the NFL,

1124
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: He's right, though, I mean, who can I mean, who

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01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: wants to hear a guy get up there and say, no,

1126
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: we think it gives us the best chance to win,

1127
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: not we're stuck here. And that's right. That's basically what

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01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: he's saying, and he's right. But he's right. That doesn't

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01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: mean they can't win games. I mean, if they're gonna

1130
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: win games, though, Greg, tell me what they're gonna look like, Well,

1131
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: a couple of things have to happen. Number one, I

1132
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 1: think they have to have success running the ball. And again,

1133
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: let's be realistic. Based on tape study, I think the

1134
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: Bills have struggled a bit stopping the run. And look

1135
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 1: the Bills, and I'll explain this because I know people

1136
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: listening might not know all this in detail, but you

1137
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 1: guys all know the Bills are a foundational overfront, which

1138
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: means they shift their defensive line to the strong side

1139
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: of the offensive formation to the tight end side. And

1140
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: they're not that multiple with their front looks. This is

1141
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: how they play. There have been times they've been really

1142
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: good at it, but teams know how to attack it.

1143
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: One thing we've seen is their three technique. That's the

1144
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: defensive tackle that lines up in between the guard and

1145
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: the defensive end to the strong side. He's been getting

1146
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: double teamed and moved a lot, and you just have

1147
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: to hold up more with that position because what happens

1148
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: there if he gets moved, the linebackers can't play because

1149
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: guys get shoved into the into the linebacker level and

1150
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 1: it's very hard for the linebackers to react. And I

1151
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: think Edmonds has not been a big factor in the

1152
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: last two games because of that. So they're going to

1153
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: have to just shore up their physicality upfront because the

1154
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: Panthers will run the ball, and ultimately, Matt Rule wants

1155
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: to run the ball. That's his whole belief as a coach.

1156
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: And given the quarterback situation, you know he's not coming

1157
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: out to throw the ball, right And with that in mind,

1158
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: no McCaffrey, as we know, done for the season. Yep.

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01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: What kind of back is Chuba Hubbard? Well, you know,

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01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: it's funny you say that because the pandemic summer of

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01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: twenty not this past summer, so it would be twenty twenty.

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01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: I watched his tape from twenty nineteen in Oklahoma State

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: and he was really good. Chris. I thought he'd come

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01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: in the league and have a chance to be a

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01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: true starter. He had explosiveness to him. He had big playability.

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01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: He was a little upright because he's tall, but I

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01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: didn't think that was an issue that would prevent him

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01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: from being a player. So's he can break runs, so

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01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: you have to be careful about that. I mean, the

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01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: one issue here, another issue for the Panthers, which you

1171
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: know we talk about the Bills a lot. The Panther's

1172
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: old line is really not very good at all, and

1173
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 1: it's it's not been good at all during the entire season.

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01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: So that hopefully that the Bill's front can play better

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01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: and and they can control that unit matchup because the

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01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: Panther's old line, they've moved people around. They're trying to find,

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01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: you know, what the best group is, but it's been bad.

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01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: Let's move around the league a little bit of a

1179
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: couple of the best defenses in the NFL are going

1180
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: to come off. And the Bill's fans have an absolutely

1181
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: keen interest in the Colts Patriot game Saturday night. What

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01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that matchup and how it might

1183
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 1: go down? Well, history would suggest you know, you guys

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01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: are very familiar with Belichick and the Patriots being in

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01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: the same division. And then Steve You've known this for

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01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: a long time. History would suggest that Bill Belichick will

1187
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: not allow Jonathan Taylor to control the pacing tempo with

1188
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: the game because what Bill Belichick does is he sees

1189
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: how to take away your best threat and minimize it.

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01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: Now that doesn't mean Taylor might not have a long run.

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01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: He's a great back, you know. But my sense is

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01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: the Colts will not control the game running the ball.

1193
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 1: Tayler will not consistently gain five to six seven yards.

1194
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 1: So I think, to me, how the Colts approach first

1195
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: down is going to be fascinating. Of course, they'll run

1196
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: the ball, They're not going to not run the ball.

1197
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: But I think there needs to be a real balance

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01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: on first down between running and throwing. And I don't

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01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: know what that is, guys, but I don't think they

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01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: can just feel like, hey, we're going to hand it

1201
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: off to Jonathan Taylor. They're going to need the passing

1202
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: game on first down to be a factor in this game. Yeah,

1203
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: and last time I checked, I think Carson Wentz was

1204
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: having a pretty good season on play action, So yes, yeah, yeah,

1205
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: so I think that would be I wouldn't be surprised

1206
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: if that's something that they decide to turn to Greg.

1207
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: As always, thank you for the insight on Bill's panthers.

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01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: We hope it's an entertaining matchup, but I don't know

1209
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 1: that we convinced anybody. But we'll see where it goes

1210
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I think all the Bills fans care about

1211
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: is that it's just a win at this point, you

1212
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: know what, Chris, I think they'll take a six three win.

1213
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: I don't think they care, you know, I don't think

1214
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: we're into style points. Yeah, they're not worried about being picky.

1215
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: Thanks as always, Greg, We appreciate it. Thanks guys, appreciate it. Yep,

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Speaker 1: your producer from NFL Films, Greg Cosell, joining us as

1217
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: he does here every Friday. We will take a break

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Speaker 1: when we come back. It's the latest installment of Tasker's

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Speaker 1: Teammate coming your way next here on One Bills Live,

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01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Help a Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

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01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: welcome back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown's team Champire

1222
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,959
Speaker 1: with you, and it is that time of the week.

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01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: For some people, it's our favorite time of the week.

1224
01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can say the same for Steve,

1225
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: but it is time for Tasker's teammate as we get

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Speaker 1: ready for the latest installment brought to you by Wegman's

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Speaker 1: Are you ready right, Let's get clue number one. Born

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01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: in Queens, New York, I was a consensus All city

1230
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: ball player at Bayside High School. There's only one guy

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01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: can be Okay, Ronnie Harmon, You are one hundred percent correct.

1232
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: You've guessed it on the first clue. Son of a

1233
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: gun stand right out of the gate. Now, why was

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01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: that a Tell me why that was a dead queen?

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01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: Queen from Queens from Queen's Yeah, he's Ronnie. I'll tell

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01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 1: you this. I played against Ronnie at Northwestern when I

1237
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: was in Northwest. He was in Iowa, and he was

1238
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: um an unbelievable talent as people know. I mean, he's

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01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: an unbelievable talent and it's and he came here to

1240
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo and he was here when I got here, and

1241
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: first round pick in the eighty six drafts. Was an

1242
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 1: amazing talent. Um had his hilarious had a huge feet

1243
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 1: and he would had huge feet. But what are we

1244
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: talking size fourteens or I don't know about that, but big.

1245
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: They were like size. He was five eleven six foot guy.

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01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 1: He had like these size twelve two and twenty pounds. Yeah,

1247
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: could really move, had very quick feet and was very jittery.

1248
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: Came out of he was an absolute game wrecker. Two

1249
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: time All American in Iowa. He was a game wrecker.

1250
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: Had over four thousand total yards from scrimmage and thirty touchdowns.

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01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a first team All American his

1252
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,800
Speaker 1: senior year. Right, took the Iowa to the Rose Bowl.

1253
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: And we'll get into what happened there in a second. Well,

1254
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, it was amazing because there were moments in

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01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 1: his career like that in the Rose Bowl which what

1256
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: didn't turn out well? Right, And and people remember him

1257
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo not for some of the great catches

1258
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: he made something, but in the moment moments when he

1259
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: didn't you know where he had that. You know, the

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01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: drop in the Cleveland game and divisional playoff nineteen eighty nine,

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01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 1: drops the ball in the end zone nine seconds left

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01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: in the game that would have won the game, right,

1263
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: and then even in a game here in Buffalo, and

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01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 1: he dropped a corner route against the Denver Broncos. I

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01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: think it was in the throwback where they had that

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01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 1: funky uniforms. We had that one night where we had

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Speaker 1: a white standing buffalo on the red helmets, which they

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01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: never wore in any game except that one when they

1269
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: were supposed to be the throwbacks. But we used to

1270
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 1: have white helmets and the league wouldn't let you change

1271
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: colored helmets, so we did the best we could. It

1272
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: was weird, really weird game. And I think he caught

1273
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: he'd dropped a corner route on that way, almost the

1274
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 1: same route that the one we're talking about with the

1275
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland game. But those are the moments, unfortunately for really

1276
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: talented and really good player, those are some of the

1277
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 1: moments that people remember him for. How did he handle

1278
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: those moments? Because here's the thing what made this more

1279
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: interesting the more I looked into trying to get clues

1280
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: for you for this. So he is one of the

1281
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: main players on a very good IOWA team his junior year.

1282
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: They go eight four and one. They go to the

1283
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: Freedom Bowl and upset nineteenth ranked tech says fifty five seventeen.

1284
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: They blow him out. The next year they go to

1285
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl, Big ten champs in eighty five. One

1286
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: of your other former teammates, Quinn Early, was also on

1287
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 1: that team, and they go to play UCLA and they

1288
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: lose forty nine twenty six. Ronnie Harmon has four fumbles

1289
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,120
Speaker 1: in the game and dropped a pass that could have

1290
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: won them the game or at least brought them back,

1291
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 1: and then the game kind of got out of hand,

1292
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, Ronnie was accused by IOWA fans of throwing

1293
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: the game on purpose, and Hayden Fry, who was the

1294
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 1: head coach at the time, along with a bunch of

1295
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,879
Speaker 1: other coaches, said there is no way that was possible.

1296
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: And people said, well why, And his running backs coach said,

1297
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: after the game, I looked in him, I looked him

1298
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: in the eye after the game, and I said, you

1299
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 1: had a fantastic career here. Don't hang your head. I

1300
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you playing on Sundays, and he said.

1301
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 1: Ronnie was almost openly crying, and he looked at his

1302
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 1: coach and he said, I don't think they're gonna want

1303
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: me after this game, Like he was that broken up

1304
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 1: about what had happened. He said, looking him in the eye.

1305
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: Immediately after that game, I knew there was no way

1306
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: that guy through the game. He just had a horrible game. Yeah,

1307
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: he was. He was a good teammate. I saw him.

1308
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: He left Buffalo, went to San Diego after eight d

1309
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: went to the Pro Bowl in nineteen ninety's a little

1310
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: bit of a loaner here in Buffalo. And I think

1311
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: it was one of those time during the era when maybe,

1312
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: and you'd have to ask Ronnie, this Buffalo wasn't very

1313
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: good when he got here in eighty six. He got

1314
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: to the eighty eight season with us, got twelve and four,

1315
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: got to the championship game. But I think he was

1316
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: one of those few guys that, you know, Buffalo didn't

1317
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: click for him. He was a little bit of a

1318
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:54,560
Speaker 1: loaner in the locker. Well, this guy, trendous guy, not

1319
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,639
Speaker 1: a spotlight guy, didn't like the spot not like the spotlight.

1320
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: Went to San Diego, and I crossed paths with him

1321
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: during my early in my broadcast career, cross paths with

1322
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: him out there, and he was like, you know, he

1323
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: gave me a big hug. It was It was great

1324
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: to see him. So, yeah, career that was marked by

1325
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: moments of I'll give you an example, Like I've said before,

1326
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: in this game, in this show and stuff. It's hard

1327
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: to impress guys in an NFL locker room. You know,

1328
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 1: it's hard to to do things that guys are like, hey, okay,

1329
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: like once in a while, Like I remember once we

1330
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 1: were out practicing and this was, you know, first couple

1331
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 1: of years of Cornie's Bennett's career where he spears an

1332
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 1: interset and we're out in practice yet and they throw

1333
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: us behind. He just reaches up and like just spears it,

1334
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: just grabs it and starts off the other way, right.

1335
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: That was like, that was like, wow, hey, you know,

1336
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 1: it's hard to impress guys a thing like that, which

1337
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 1: is the most unbelievable player you may ever lay eyes on,

1338
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: and guys are like, hey, nice one, Okay, fine, and

1339
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 1: that's it. They go on. It's hard to impress guys.

1340
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: There were times in practice running backs notoriously would go

1341
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: out and do one on one drills with linebackers and

1342
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: safeties and stuff where they'd come out of the lot,

1343
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,679
Speaker 1: come out of the backfield. They'd be a snap the ball,

1344
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: one on one back, the back would circle out and

1345
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: the and the linebacker picks him up and they play

1346
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: one on one and he gets open, runs a route.

1347
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 1: Ronnie harmon that drill would be going on. Other drills

1348
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 1: around the team around the field would stop and watch

1349
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: Ronnie run his route. They would watch him because of

1350
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: the way he could give guys that, you know, just

1351
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: the way he ran his routes. They just want to

1352
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: see what he'd do. Um, that's talent. That's a real talent.

1353
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: And he had that. I mean, guys would stop what

1354
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: they were doing to watch him practice. Do you remember

1355
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: what he was like in the locker room after that?

1356
01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's down, you lose it. It was a

1357
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: real quiet game because that round up being the last

1358
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 1: game in his Bill's career. Yeah, it was the last

1359
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 1: game he played in a Bill's uniform. And we had

1360
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: one play right after that. And I'll say this too,

1361
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: and and and I think Jim they ran another play,

1362
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: same thing. Ronnie popped open again for the next play

1363
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 1: and Jim tried to fit it into the third third.

1364
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: Had fourteen catches in the game, and that's when Clay

1365
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: Matthews uh intercepted it at the at the goal line

1366
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: and that was the end of that game. But um,

1367
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: after that game, don't remember anything. It's hard to remember

1368
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: anything about being in Cleveland, the old stadium with the

1369
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: municipal what a dump your You take your shower in

1370
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: the room and there's black water ankle deep in the

1371
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: shower because it was so much mud. Well yeah, whatever

1372
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: the rain and hope right, So yeah, I don't remember.

1373
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: And the the the locker room for fifty five guys

1374
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: and coaching stats was smaller than the studio that were

1375
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: and it was so yeah. After that game is it's

1376
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: always very quiet. And I remember Bruce saying something after that.

1377
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: He goes, man, he goes he was really bummed about

1378
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: how the defense played in that game, really bummed. Um,

1379
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: that's one of those games. It was the end of

1380
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty nine rickering Bills, and because of that

1381
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: um at the end before that happened in the last month.

1382
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: That game plus the three games at the end of

1383
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: the regular season is when that team transformed into something different.

1384
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 1: That game was a good example of it played it.

1385
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: It was a fantastic game. If you ever get a

1386
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: chance to go back and watch the Bills, I think

1387
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: it was a wildcard round. It is the first round

1388
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: of a playoffs, the divisional playoff. It was it we

1389
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: didn't have a. We didn't have a wildcard game that um,

1390
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 1: I think it was a wildcard because we were seven,

1391
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: I think, and we were we got in or something,

1392
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 1: and so it was a wild card in Cleveland. Yeah,

1393
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: and it was a fat You want to go back

1394
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 1: and find a game to watch. That was a fun

1395
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: game to be in. And it was on his head

1396
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: game too, John Baby bounced on his head. Mel um,

1397
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 1: what was his name? The return man? Not Eric Metcalf,

1398
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,719
Speaker 1: Eric Metcalff. Okay, Eric Metcalf had had a kickoff return

1399
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 1: against US for a touchdown, ran right by me. I

1400
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: had kind of contained he was. He was a special athletes,

1401
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 1: so I you know, remember that. So we all had

1402
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: a hand in that game and a lot. But the

1403
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: only thing anybody remembers is Ronnie's drop in the back

1404
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 1: of that end zone. He also had two brothers who

1405
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 1: played in the NFL. You might know this, but his

1406
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: brother Derek, who was older than him, electrical engineer, turned

1407
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: down Syracuse, turned down Rutgers, played at Cornell. There you go.

1408
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: They wanted him to play quarterback. He said, I want

1409
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 1: to play running back so I don't have to devote

1410
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: as much time to football because I really want to

1411
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: be an electrical engineer. And then when he almost quit

1412
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: football already too smart, and his brother said, you are

1413
01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. Played football for as long as you can.

1414
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: Then go worry about being an electrical engineer. And he

1415
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: went back to school, finished his career and ended up

1416
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: playing in the pros for a short time. And then

1417
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: his brother Kevin followed him to Iowa, his younger brother

1418
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: and also played in the NFL for a while. I

1419
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 1: think this is cool. Ronnie Harmon is the only NFL

1420
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: player to average four and a half yards per carry

1421
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: with at least six hundred career rushing attempts and average

1422
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: more than ten yards a reception with at least five

1423
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty catches. He's that's exclusive company. Yeah, well,

1424
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 1: so he's the only group of one. His ability to

1425
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,560
Speaker 1: catch the ball out of the backfield was a precursor

1426
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: to what where offenses were heading at that time. You know,

1427
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: Thurman was obviously a part of that. Ronnie was here,

1428
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 1: you know, two years before Thurman got here. And those

1429
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 1: kind of guys, and you know, Marshall Falk was that

1430
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: kind of running back. The running backs of that era

1431
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: of the late eighties, early nineties and through the nineties

1432
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 1: and all the way up. Now you had guys who

1433
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: could run the football, physical insight, but they also had

1434
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: to catch and it was something that up to that

1435
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: time running backs weren't asked to do. And Ronnie was very,

1436
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: very good at it, as you can imagine, finished his

1437
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: thirteen year career with more than ten thousand all purpose yards.

1438
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 1: It's one of those guys that has like a great

1439
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: career and you never hear about him again. It's just

1440
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: it's crazy, Like there are some guys that have played

1441
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: in this league. They've had very productive careers, but you know,

1442
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: they go to one Pro Bowl, they don't you know,

1443
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 1: they're not Hall of Fame worthy necessarily, but put up

1444
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: some pretty dang good number. They were never on a

1445
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: good team. Ronnie was on. Oh yeah, those teams. I

1446
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 1: mean we did go to a Super Bowl with the

1447
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,040
Speaker 1: Chargers lost to the forty nine Ers. That's right, that's right.

1448
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: And it's uh and it's interesting too you say that,

1449
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 1: because then most of these guys that have, like like me,

1450
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 1: you have a career that's kind of notable on a

1451
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: great team, you get in the media and you're you know,

1452
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: you're still in front of people, right Ronnie, like you said,

1453
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 1: didn't wasn't it wasn't a spotlight guy. And he's like,

1454
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm good. You can just say. He's like,

1455
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the guys. Thanks, I'm out and Mike drop yeah,

1456
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: And nothing wrong with it at all. That's the way

1457
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: they did it. And he but he was I never

1458
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: had anything a problem with Ronnie at all. I mean,

1459
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: he was a little bit of a quiet guy, and

1460
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 1: he kind of got the feeling because he was so

1461
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: quiet and didn't really hang out with the guys like

1462
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 1: that because you know, Buffalo wasn't his cup of tea.

1463
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know, I'm that's a guest by me.

1464
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: But he was a person overall. But what a talent

1465
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: I could play. What a talent? All right. That was

1466
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 1: a good edition of Tasker's teammate, even though Steve got

1467
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: it right out of the gate. Knew of the Queen's

1468
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: New York native right off the bat. We will take

1469
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: a break here, but Steve will close things up next

1470
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collid to Health,

1471
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio Back. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1472
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: Steve task here to close things out and take you

1473
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: to the top of the hour. At the end of

1474
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: the show, there's starting to be some reports and as

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Speaker 1: we've been talking about for the entire show, the league

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Speaker 1: is a mess with COVID outbreaks all over and it's

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01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna result in, as we been suspecting and conjecturing about,

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01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: some games are gonna get moved. It looks like the

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01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 1: Vikings in Chicago game on Monday Night Football that's gonna

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01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,839
Speaker 1: happen as scheduled on Monday Night Football. That's the regularly

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01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 1: schedule Monday Night Football. In addition to that, at five

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01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:16,680
Speaker 1: o'clock on Monday, the Las Vegas Raiders are gonna take

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01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 1: on the Cleveland Browns in Cleveland. That game that was

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01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be tomorrow afternoon on Saturday, has been moved

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01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: two days later till Monday afternoon at five o'clock. The

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Speaker 1: Raiders and the Browns are Monday at five o'clock now,

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Speaker 1: not Saturday at four twenty five. Also Rams at Seattle,

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01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 1: Philadelphia at the Washington Football Team. Both those games have

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Speaker 1: been moved until Tuesday, are gonna be removed till Tuesday.

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01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 1: Nothing's official yet, it looks like it's gonna be seven

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Speaker 1: pm Tuesday for Washington Philly. Haven't heard anything about the

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Speaker 1: Rams Seahawks game Tuesday. If it's gonna be seven pm

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01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 1: as well, seven pm would be Eastern time for the

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01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 1: Washington Philly game. They could push the Seahawks Rams game back,

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01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 1: obviously because of the West Coast time difference. But there

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01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: you have it. The league has been forced to move

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01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: some games around. Three games are going to be moved

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01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: the Rams at Seattle, Philadelphia at Washington. Those games are

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01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:21,759
Speaker 1: going to take place on Tuesday, and the Las Vegas

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01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,839
Speaker 1: Cleveland game in Cleveland that was supposed to be tomorrow

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01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 1: afternoon is now going to take place at five o'clock

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01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 1: on Monday afternoon, just before the Vikings at the Bears

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01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football for their regular, regularly scheduled game.

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01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: So league's making some moves. None of this is official yet,

1505
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: but it's being reported everywhere, and it's like one of

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01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: those things you just hear about it before it's actually announced.

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01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: We don't have a time for the Rams Seahawks yet.

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01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: It's being reported that Washington and Philly are going to

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01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: take place at seven pm Tuesday. We'll have to wait

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01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 1: and see us as to all that. When that all happened,

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01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: so check your social media outlets for more details, But

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01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: as of now, nothing has happened with the Bill's game

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01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: if that's going to take place at one o'clock here

1514
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 1: on Sunday against Carolina. Bill's practice just wrapped up a

1515
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,880
Speaker 1: moment ago. Tarren Johnson was at the podium on zoom

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01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: with the media. We'll give you some sound to him

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01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 1: right now. This is Taron Johnson after today's practice here

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01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. I'm just kind of big picture, what's it

1519
01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: been like kind of seeing everything happening the last few hours,

1520
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 1: a few days of just the uptick of cases around

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01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: the league. They're talking maybe about postponing some stuff, and

1522
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: I know you guys don't know if they will right now,

1523
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 1: but kind of what's it like to watch all that

1524
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: happen again? Oh a little surprising, you know. I wasn't

1525
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: expecting things to happen like this again, but you know,

1526
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff comes unexpectedly, and I mean, we're

1527
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 1: gonna deal with it just like we did last year,

1528
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 1: so hopefully it doesn't affect us too much. And then again,

1529
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,600
Speaker 1: just a big picture, how did this week go for

1530
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: y'all of preparing? I know, Carolina with their quarterback situation.

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01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: Just what is that like to prepare for? Really just

1532
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: kind of being ready for everything. You know, we don't

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01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: know what quarterback they're gonna have out there starting, and

1534
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: even whoever starts might not even finished the game. So

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01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: really just preparing for just about everything and being as

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01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: ready as we can be. Yes, Darren Good, Darren Good, afternoon,

1537
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 1: George Radney challenging community news. How are you doing today?

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01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: You're doing. I'm good. I'm glad to hear it. I'm wondering,

1539
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 1: do you guys have a meeting? How does this work?

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01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: Do you have a meeting with the players Association? Or

1541
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,560
Speaker 1: is it just the reps that give you updates on

1542
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: what's going on with any type of changes or anything

1543
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,600
Speaker 1: that happened with protocols or things of that nature or

1544
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 1: anything related to football. Not only protocols, but anytime something

1545
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 1: major changes are are out of a sudden taking place,

1546
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: usually our reps know what's going on, so they'll they'll

1547
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:56,600
Speaker 1: let us know. Um, last night kind of was just

1548
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 1: kind of out of nowhere. It seemed, you know, the

1549
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,560
Speaker 1: apps weren't even as informed as they usually are, so

1550
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: it kind of just kind of blindsided us a little bit,

1551
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, but uh, we're still ready to go. Um,

1552
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 1: it's not gonna change much for us, you know, We're

1553
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 1: just gonna try to stay as safe as we can. Absolutely,

1554
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: and question for this week's game, are you still you

1555
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: guys continue to play your physical style. I know to

1556
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 1: yourself now that now that Dane Jacksons and you guys

1557
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: like to play physical, get that bump and stay with

1558
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: your guys. Uh is that how you guys? Especially when

1559
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: you look at the film, I thought you guys were

1560
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: all in good positions to make plays. And those flags

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01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: they've thrown were even announcers on some of the games

1562
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: that they're on the replays were saying that it was

1563
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: hey man, that was very suspect some of these cars.

1564
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: So does that do you guys alter your game at all? Uh? No,

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01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep playing the same way. Um, the way

1566
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: this game is. I mean those flags, Like I'm watching

1567
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 1: other games and other calls are being made that I

1568
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 1: don't agree with as well, you know, so that's just

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01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 1: the name of the game. But we're not gonna change

1570
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 1: the way we play. Still gonna stay physical and yeah,

1571
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 1: in your face. Absolutely. The last question I found that

1572
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: would say after in the post game? Was it in

1573
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay post game someday evening? He said? He

1574
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: said he saw him film that he started the Bill's defense,

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01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 1: didn't tackle well, didn't wrap up well. He thought he

1576
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 1: could have a big game and explosive game. Is that

1577
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: and he said that was from the film. What's your

1578
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,479
Speaker 1: impression of your guys wrapping up and bringing guys down?

1579
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel as though we've played pretty well

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01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: throughout the whole season. I mean there's obviously some games

1581
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: that we wish we could have back. That's just part

1582
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 1: of the game, you know. I feel like every team's

1583
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: gonna gonna want some games back or some plays back.

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01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: So I mean, can't really do much about it, you know.

1585
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean people gonna say what they're gonna say, and

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01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: all we can do is come prepared and ready to

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01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: work and prove people wrong. All right, Thank you very

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01:25:55,000 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: much for your time and good luck on Sunday. Appreciate it. Hey,

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01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 1: what's up Taran Um? You know I want to I

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01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: wanted to sorry about that. I wanted to ask you

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01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: about Dane Um obviously, the way that he came in

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01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,960
Speaker 1: this past week. Um, I think a lot of people

1593
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: that have watched him. I mean I watched him last year,

1594
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: was really impressed with him. Knew what he was capable of.

1595
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,839
Speaker 1: But in uh, when the bullets are flying, how impressed

1596
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: have you been with his ability to come in, continue

1597
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,360
Speaker 1: to make plays and just handle the moment after Trey

1598
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 1: went out. I mean, to be honest, I knew he

1599
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: was gonna come in and play like that. You know,

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01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 1: he's been a great player for us. UM. We see

1601
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: it on the practice field all the time. Sometimes most

1602
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: of the time, he didn't get that opportunity, and now

1603
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 1: he asked that opportunity. So I knew he was gonna

1604
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:46,560
Speaker 1: come in and and obviously Tray's a great player, and

1605
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: Tray has been leading Dane, you know, and Dane's just

1606
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 1: following his footsteps and just been learning this whole time.

1607
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: So he's been ready even before Trey was down. And

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01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 1: you know, with Trey, UM, you know a couple of guys,

1609
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: Jordan and LEVI were talking about him still being around

1610
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: the building and you know, being involved still. And I

1611
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: know he had the surgery like this, I mean, how

1612
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: did it affect you? Because I know, somebody you kind

1613
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: of have been around for a long time, what's it

1614
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: been like to go through that, see a friend, a teammate,

1615
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 1: all those things, you know, to go through what he's

1616
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 1: gone through. I mean, I feel like I'm with him,

1617
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: you know. Obviously the injury didn't happen to me, but

1618
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 1: I felt some part of it, you know. Um just

1619
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: it's it's just kind of sad to see, you know,

1620
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: But I mean he's gonna bounce back. He's gonna be

1621
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,920
Speaker 1: ready whenever that time comes, He's gonna be ready. You know.

1622
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: So it was hard, you know, but unfortunately that's part

1623
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 1: of the game. That was it from Aryan Johnson. That's it.

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01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 1: That's gonna do it for our week this week one

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01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 1: Bills Live the Bills Panthers one o'clock. Also the games

1626
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: I mentioned before, we went to that Las Vegas at

1627
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 1: Cleveland's at five pm Monday, not four thirty pm Saturday,

1628
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 1: ram Seattle, Philadelphia, Washing. Those games are taking place Tuesday

1629
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: because of the COVID outbreak. I watch out keep an

1630
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: eye out for Field Past twelve fifteen pm Sunday here

1631
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: on WGR and also Bills Tonight immediately following the game

1632
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: on social media platform, Steve Tasker Chris Brown here for

1633
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: your one, Bills Live. Have a great weekend. Everybody's been

1634
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: a rough week. It might get rougher. It was a

1635
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: mess this week. We're gonna be back Monday to talk

1636
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: about it, to wrap up the Bills Carolina game, and

1637
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: look forward to the two games, actually the four games

1638
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: that are happening Monday and Tuesday next week. So stick

1639
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: with us, we'll talk to you. I have a great

1640
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: weekend everybody, and go Bills.