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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for a day?

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Speaker 2: Edo State is that?

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Speaker 1: Whoo whoom?

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Speaker 2: And Dan and Tye.

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Speaker 1: Dan Robertstein. Week seven is upon us, my friend, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show, Welcome back to the kind of

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Speaker 1: baller hood. I am shut out of a cannon. I

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Speaker 1: am excited for week seven. We have a loaded show

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Speaker 1: to go through today, many more games to discuss than

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Speaker 1: we talked about on Tuesday. I am ready to roll

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Speaker 1: up my sleeves and get the work. Sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm terrific, Ty. Maybe it should be seven minutes in

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Speaker 2: heaven Saturday, right, this is week seven, But I don't

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Speaker 2: know how I could twist an explanation into that. Although

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Speaker 2: next year twenty twenty six, write it down.

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Speaker 1: That'll lock it in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seven minutes in heaven Saturday, Colin kiss responsibly. Sure,

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Speaker 2: I'm very good, Ty, This is a great week. This

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Speaker 2: is a deep week.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you have, you know, a couple big headliners and

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Speaker 2: everything else you're not sure what to get excited about.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're always excited about college football. But this

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Speaker 2: goes deep into every conference. Big conference, smaller conference, medium

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Speaker 2: sized conference, take your pick. This week has everything. And

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Speaker 2: the more I look at the specific matchups tie, the

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Speaker 2: it's replete, is that what the word? I'm complete? I

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Speaker 2: don't know. With terrific matchups, there's something that's decidedly kind

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Speaker 2: of unglamorous about Week seven that the teams that win,

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Speaker 2: the teams that pull up sets, the teams that are successful.

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Speaker 2: It's not going to come from, you know, a sexy

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Speaker 2: There's something about boring football that I think is going

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Speaker 2: and so there's going to be a certain amount of

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Speaker 2: Week seven. I know you're looking at me skeptically, skeptical,

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Speaker 2: Saturday col and what is Dan talking about? Sure? What

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, it's a Steely Saturday col and do the

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Speaker 2: dirty work.

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Speaker 1: We don't have the rights to that. Turn it off.

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Speaker 1: Turn it off.

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Speaker 2: It's a cover. It's a cover. It's a cover. It's

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Speaker 2: an acoustic cover. So I got into Steely Dan yesterday

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Speaker 2: pretty hard. I got into Steely Dan pretty hard. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So but no, as I look at the schedule, let

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Speaker 2: me let me show my work right real quick. These

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Speaker 2: are some examples. Right. If Florida is going to pull

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Speaker 2: boringly competent. DJ Lagway is not gonna pop them over

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Speaker 2: Arizona State Utah. That's gonna be nothing but dirty work

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Speaker 2: no matter who wins that game. Right, Yes, If Auburn's

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna because Jackson Arnold's thrown for three hundred

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Speaker 1: Right, He's definitely not gonna throw for three hundre. They're

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Speaker 1: Dam and time to help you any fix of the week.

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Speaker 1: I am fired up. Yeah, buddy, we covered three games

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Speaker 1: road at your Oregon Ducks. Benefit of hindsight, Now you

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Speaker 1: did that episode about forty eight hours ago. Yeah, any

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Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti right, They've played Notre Dame. Last season, they

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Speaker 1: That one's going to be three point thirty. Our friends

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Speaker 2: I think CBS is like bringing the whole thing, right.

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Speaker 1: Also at three point thirty. This one on ABC for years,

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Speaker 1: has been dramatically better this season with John Mattier. Will

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Speaker 2: Did you see the clothes from today?

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Speaker 2: Brent Vetnables has said, like, John Mattier hasn't played in

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Speaker 2: Good on good right? That? Like, why would we play

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Speaker 1: But who knows?

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Speaker 2: As one real top? Okay, so are we previewing this

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Speaker 2: Okay, so basically you're getting either Michael Hawkins or a

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think Michael Hawkins is fine. He obviously this

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Speaker 2: is enough to win this game. Like Ty said in

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Speaker 2: take your pick, right. This game has been all over

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Speaker 2: we may have gone too far in one direction about Texas.

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Speaker 2: Texas has been basically incompetent on offense against quality competition,

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Speaker 2: largely due to an offensive line that has been nowhere

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Speaker 2: cases great Texas is to penalize. They're not good on

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Speaker 2: This Texas offense. There's a lot to still like about

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Speaker 2: don't think I'm going that far. What's the line in

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Speaker 2: this game right now and.

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Speaker 1: A half, right now, four in favor of Texas, in

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Speaker 2: I think I'm actually taking Texas. I'm taking Texas here

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Speaker 2: thing to win, obviously, But I'm not sold on this offense.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually not sold on it without John Matier or

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Speaker 2: with a severely limited Jo Materier. And I think this

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Speaker 2: It's not a great defense to be okay. I mean,

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Speaker 2: a good thing. I just don't know how much is

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma defense has actually been tested this year. I think

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Speaker 2: I'm going Texas here because I do believe that there

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Speaker 2: offensive line, not with this offensive line. We need to

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Speaker 2: see a Texas offense that's better equipped to succeed despite

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Speaker 2: for that. And I'm just not buying Michael Hawkins right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not buying the running game of Oklahoma without joh Matier.

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Speaker 2: do think Texas has the ability, provided they can clean

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Speaker 2: that will improve because of the size of this game.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to rise to the occasion. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My issue with this one is it's inn Ashanti game.

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Speaker 1: For me. Yeah, it's trust, you know, I mean it

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Speaker 1: looks like a close one. Yeah, it's all about trust.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what the trust I hear you're

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Speaker 2: Uh? What's his name? Taylor Wine and r Mason Thomas

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Speaker 2: defensive line for Oklahoma. It's a terrible matchup.

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Speaker 1: From yeah, I would say more broadly, the Oklahoma defense,

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Speaker 1: think about it, it's like an enormous one to eighty compared

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Speaker 1: a good running team. Arch Manning has not been that

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Speaker 1: good of a passer. His completion percentage is just sixty percent.

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Speaker 1: Texas is eighty second nationally in passing success rates. To

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Speaker 1: quote the wise profit Bob slide L from Office Base, Dan,

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Speaker 1: what would you say you do here?

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Speaker 2: I hear you.

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Speaker 1: So something's got to change, and I'm just I'm not

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Speaker 2: No, it's not pretty good. It is really good, really good.

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Speaker 1: I think there is potential here for Texas to stretch

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Speaker 1: And I'm not sure he's gonna get that time against

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Speaker 1: They're great at getting pressure on the quarterback, sacking the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: This is a tough matchup for a line and I

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Speaker 1: it just feels like a different ballgame than last year.

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Speaker 1: And everything you're saying about Oklahoma is valid for sure.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Oklahoma's gonna blink this time around. I

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Speaker 1: him too. By all accounts, he's much more comfortable this

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Speaker 1: I'm going Oklahoma out right here. I think it's low scoring.

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Speaker 1: I think it's physical. I think it's ugly. I think

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Speaker 1: that's the style of game that Brent Venables would prefer

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Speaker 2: Give me Oklahoma, Okay, yeah, I man, he had six

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Speaker 2: You can believe everything you want. I need to see

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Speaker 2: it from Michael Hawkins. We saw Michael Hawkins with a

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Speaker 2: He's definitely gotten better. Everybody gets better, it seems with

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Speaker 2: Everybody has the opportunity to get better as the age.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: We're also in a weird spot where like we're barely

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Speaker 2: Brent Vtables is an excellent coach and has this team

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Speaker 2: ready to Like we have what have we seen full

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Speaker 1: To his credit, the team that we have seen on

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Speaker 1: At this point seven pm, EESPN, it is your Florida Gators.

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Speaker 2: Ooh mine on the road.

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Speaker 1: At number five Texas A and M. A and M

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Speaker 1: is favored by seven points. I am going to use

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Speaker 1: your favorite F word place to describe this game. Fascinating. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this one is fascinating because consider the dynamics Florida knocks

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Speaker 1: And I'm off to their best start in about a decade.

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Speaker 1: So now the question coming into this one is was

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Speaker 1: it seems that they found something on offense that next

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Speaker 1: You got him out there, Suddenly DJ Lagway looks better.

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Speaker 1: They gave Jaden Ball twenty seven carries, They stayed committed

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Speaker 1: Napier for Florida, I'll put it to you, can you

434
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Speaker 1: do it again? Because that's where we're at. I don't

435
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: know if Florida beating Texas is going to buy a

436
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Speaker 1: whole lot of good will for Billy Napier. He's not

437
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Speaker 1: exactly in the good graces of the Florida standing right

438
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: Florida community right now right doesn't have great standing there,

439
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: So can they do it again? Here?

440
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Speaker 2: Marcel Reid was very good against his Florida team last

441
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Speaker 2: season in the Swamp. If I remember correctly, I might

442
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: have been his first start, one of his first starts

443
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Speaker 2: early on. Here. Here's where I'm at with Florida right now,

444
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: clearly on the road this season thus far, they've been

445
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 2: atrocious with the game against LSU in the Swamp. In

446
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: the Swamp game against LSU in Death Valley with the

447
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: five picks, they score ten points something like that, score

448
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: seven against Miami. So if the worst of Florida on

449
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: the road is eight or nine points, and then the

450
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 2: best of Florida at home is summary at twenty eight

451
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: to thirty points something like that, like they had last

452
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Speaker 2: week against Texas, I'd put them scoring if they're improved

453
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: and if they're heading in the right direction, somewhere around

454
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Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty one points against Texas A and M.

455
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Speaker 2: Like I don't think they're going to be able to

456
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Speaker 2: overwhelm Texas A and M with any one facet of

457
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: their offense. I don't think they're going to suddenly be

458
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 2: able to vomit on A and M or dominate the ground,

459
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Speaker 2: especially because the offensive line has been pretty uneven in

460
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: LUMPY this year. I just think Texas A and M

461
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 2: has its act together more, can win in more ways.

462
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: And if you're saying both of these defense are at

463
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Speaker 2: the very least legitimately good, I don't see it as

464
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Speaker 2: being high scoring. So I wrote down twenty four to

465
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Speaker 2: twenty Texas A and M. They get enough on the ground.

466
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,879
Speaker 2: They get enough in play action downfield, not a lot,

467
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 2: but to keep the Florida defense on its heels. Still good,

468
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: but on its heels a little bit more often than

469
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Speaker 2: vice versa. So twenty four to twenty A and M

470
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Speaker 2: wins but does not cover this game.

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Speaker 1: I mean the A and M defense is really good, yeah,

472
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Speaker 1: especially at home. Of the confidence they're playing with on

473
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. I love what we've seen

474
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: so far. To Marcel Reed and the offense, I mean,

475
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: Le'Veon Moss, Ruben Owens, they can run right at you,

476
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Speaker 1: Mario Craver, Casey Concepcion. These are guys that I've added

477
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: a whole new dynamic to the passing game. My big

478
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: curiosity coming into this one now is which of the

479
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks is going to have more success with the

480
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Speaker 1: deep shots, or at least which offense could generate the

481
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Speaker 1: most chunk plays through the air. Like we've seen Florida

482
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: get cooked by some vertical shots so far this season.

483
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: Teams likewise are taking deep shots Against Texas A and M.

484
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: About fifteen percent of the dropbacks are passes that are

485
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Speaker 1: traveling twenty or more air yards, so teams are trying it.

486
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're having a whole lot of success,

487
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: but to trying it, I think whoever has more success

488
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Speaker 1: on that front, whether it's the deep shot, the long

489
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: rainbow through the air, or a catch and run. But

490
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Speaker 1: the chunk plays through the passing game, to me, are

491
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: the key in this one. The other thing that I

492
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: would point out, especially since I think we're both kind

493
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: of the mind that this could be a close game. Yeah,

494
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Speaker 1: A and M is very good on special teams.

495
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Speaker 2: That's true. Casey concepts you on a great return last week. Yes, yes, return.

496
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Speaker 1: They are second in the conference, only behind South Carolina.

497
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: We've talked about South Carolina and their punt returns a

498
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: couple times now, but second in the conference in terms

499
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: of yards per punt return. I can feel people rolling

500
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,639
Speaker 1: their eyes. Tie, you're grasping for straws that you're trying

501
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: to build your own case whatever.

502
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: You're just a pretty face. I've heard typical, typical Tie response.

503
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: I've heard it all at this point. Trust me when

504
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: I say that this type of thing matters. It can

505
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 2: flip the field in a good way. It can create

506
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: a game breaking play, can set you up for an

507
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: easy three points. If that's what it takes watch that

508
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: ask afed this game as something that could flip it

509
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: in favor of Texas A and M.

510
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: I think A and M wins. It's at home, it's

511
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: at night. Last week definitely showed me something on the

512
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: Florida side. I think this one is right on the number. Okay,

513
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm not picking a team. In terms of the point spread.

514
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: I think it's thirty one to twenty four, so I

515
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: think it's right on that number. Oh, but I think

516
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: A and M wins.

517
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Speaker 2: You think the Florida defense gives up thirty one points

518
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: to A and M. Okay, I think it's a big number,

519
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: but you know, the best of A and M's offense

520
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: is capable. For sure. Florida is an interesting like they're

521
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: not who they are on their worst day, and they're

522
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 2: not who they are on their best day. We'll see

523
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: if the Texas game was their best day. But I

524
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: think they'll be somewhere in between the rest of this season.

525
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to ever be as bad

526
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: as they were against LSU in terms of turning the

527
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 2: ball over. I don't think they're gonna be as good

528
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 2: as they were at home in that spot against a

529
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Speaker 2: reeling Texas team that you know they're gonna win some

530
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,400
Speaker 2: twenty three to twenty, they're gonna lose some twenty three twenty,

531
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: and I don't see them coming out win with a

532
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Speaker 2: win here.

533
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Speaker 1: Thirty one to twenty four implies that there will be

534
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: chunk plays, that's true, and that we might see some

535
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: action on special teams as well. Okay, you're right, so

536
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: we'll see Also again, Also, look, we've got two quarterbacks

537
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: who at least recently have played pretty well. Recently totally

538
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: DJ Lagway means a week ago, Marcel recently in there

539
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: all year. But I don't know if we're confusing either

540
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: of these guys at this point as like pinpoint passers.

541
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: Blagway did it once when he got a receiver back.

542
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: Marcel Reid, that's the side of his game that we

543
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: have seen develop over the last you know, six weeks

544
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: of the season. But we could see some defensive playmaking

545
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: as well here That wouldn't surprise me at all.

546
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: I totally agree if there's one specific matchup I'm looking

547
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: for in this game. Florida has been very good defensively

548
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 2: on third down, and Texas A and M has been

549
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: at best average and at times kind of atrocious on

550
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: third down. Quietly hasn't mattered in terms of the win

551
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: loss column, But if Florida is going to shift momentum

552
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: in this game, a lot of big third downs.

553
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: Seven p thirty, NBC Number fifteen, Michigan on the road

554
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: at USC. The Trojans are a two and one half

555
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: point favorite. Dan, Let me ask you this please. Your

556
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: rubric is quarterback in defense, right.

557
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: Yes, that's for making the playoff. That's for like winning

558
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: a major conference making a playoff. Whose playoff caliber? The

559
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: teams with the intersection of high quality quarterbacks and defense?

560
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: In a game like this, though, which side do you

561
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: air on? When USC might have the better quarterback at

562
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: least for now, and Michigan has the better defense, Like,

563
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: how do you mentally split that difference when you're trying

564
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: to make a pick.

565
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Michigan has the better quarterback talent, but in

566
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: terms of here.

567
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: And now, Jade Mayov is more of a finished product

568
00:29:59,320 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: right now?

569
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: I agree? So how do I compare quarterbacks? How do

570
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: I do? What do you want me to compare?

571
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: How do you split that difference? It's sort of right

572
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: down the middle of your rubric. One's got the better

573
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: quarterback right now. The other has the better defense right now.

574
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 2: I think situationally is how you split the difference. Right

575
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: This game is not being played on the moon. This

576
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: game is you know, being played in Los Angeles.

577
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: It's at night, right at night, seven thirty NBC.

578
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: So it's Michigan three hour body clock change because Michigan

579
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: once again is in the Eastern time zone.

580
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: Man, we've been check me. We've been fing up these

581
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: time zones left and right.

582
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: Buddy, I've been screwing up time zones since before you

583
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 2: could walk. And you're like three years old er, two

584
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: years older than I am. So okay, I actually like

585
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: USC here, Okay why? And I'm not crazy about it.

586
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: So they'll be healthier on defense and maybe on offense

587
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: than they were against Illinois. They were down you know,

588
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: star slot corner. He's not really a safety this year.

589
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: Kamari Ramsey in love with this defensive front against the run. Nope,

590
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: should set off alarm bells when you're playing against this

591
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: Michigan ground game and Justice Haynes.

592
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Well, and that's that's what I was going to say, Like,

593
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: if nothing more, this is a really interesting proof of

594
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: concept for USC because they have not played a team

595
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: like Michigan yet this season. And I'm not saying they

596
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: can't stop it. I'm just saying we haven't seen them stop.

597
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: It, nor have they succeeded against this type of team

598
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: during the Lincoln Riley era well, right period.

599
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: Right, And so alarm bells go off for me when

600
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: I see a matchup like this, because I say, well,

601
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: there's a level of physicality here on both sides of

602
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: the ball for Michigan that is going to present a challenge.

603
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: We have seen give USC trouble in the most recent past.

604
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: I'm still going to USC here. I'm going to USC

605
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: here because I think it's a winnable spot because of

606
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: their own ability to score points, and I think they're

607
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: going to be able to score some points against this

608
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: Michigan defense. I don't think this is a perfect Michigan defense.

609
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: I don't love USC's offense if they're continually as beat

610
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: up as they've been along the offensive line, especially against

611
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: the edges of Michigan. But I think they can get

612
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 2: downfield a little bit. I think they're going to be

613
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: able to get off the field a little bit because

614
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 2: I don't know this Michigan offense can be good, but

615
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm not crazy about who they've played defensively either. Like

616
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: Wisconsin is a pretty good defense, but Nebraska, like I

617
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: don't know, this offense is nowhere near a finished product.

618
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 2: And I also think mentally there might be something about Michigan.

619
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: Oh they just lost to Illinois. It's USC, it's the

620
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: West Coast. They never win these types of games where

621
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: I think they underestimate SC a little bit, and maybe

622
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: that's just be projecting. I think they are. I think

623
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: there is a little bit, a little bit of disrespect.

624
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: USC was one broken play away from beating this team

625
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: last year in Michigan. Had no quarterback play, of course,

626
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: but USC was able to handle it to the point

627
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: where they knocking on the door to win this game

628
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: in ann Arbor last season, and I think they're better

629
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: this year. We'll see. I think injuries are going to

630
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: play a huge role, but I think USC should be

631
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: able to run it some. I really do like USC's

632
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: running game. It's actually they have good.

633
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the passing game, but they're

634
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: running game has been good as well.

635
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 2: I think they have the best receiver in this game,

636
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: and that's not a controversial statement. Though I love that

637
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Donovan McCully was featured more and made more plays. Last week.

638
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 2: I have USC winning this game thirty one to twenty eight,

639
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: back and forth. The USC is able to close the

640
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: game for the first time in a while under Lincoln Riley.

641
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: A tight, close game. But I think the passing game

642
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: advantage is interesting here. I think the home spot is interesting.

643
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: I think the crowd will be in a frenzy. There's

644
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: a huge opponent coming to LA. I think USC gets

645
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: it done. I think they make enough big plays to

646
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: keep the Michigan defense on its.

647
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: Heels, so on the Michigan side, just to close the loop.

648
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: On the offense. It's a very good rushing team. It's

649
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: a passing game that I think is quickly coming of

650
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: age with Bryce Underwood, but it's still not fully there's

651
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: getting there. It's fair to say, though that it also

652
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: cuts both ways. Right, If I want to talk in

653
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: good faith about USC not playing a team like Michigan

654
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: this year, Michigan has not seen an offense like this

655
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: this great either. Like Bill Connolly and his sp plus,

656
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 1: they grade USC as the top offense in the nation. Right,

657
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: And to your point, yeah, they've been outstanding on the

658
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: ground as well as through the air. Personally, I'm terrified

659
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: of what they might do to Notre Dame next week.

660
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: So I think this is a good challenge all around. Okay,

661
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: I just feel like I have seen this movie before,

662
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 1: and usually the team that can establish itself on the ground,

663
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: the team that can win in the trenches, that's the

664
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: one that wins. And so for me, Michigan is the

665
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: under Express think Express team of the year. We know

666
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: exactly what they are, sure exactly what they're gonna do.

667
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: I think they could become something a little bit more

668
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: as they open the passing game up. I think that's

669
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: really exciting. But at least in the here and now,

670
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: we know exactly what we're signing up for here with Michigan. Okay,

671
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: And I think the ground game some combination of Justice

672
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: Haynes with Bryce Underwood maybe on some option plays, I

673
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: think that gets the job done. And I think the

674
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: defense travels here. I've got them winning out right.

675
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: So I disagree with you, But okay, how many points?

676
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: If USC is not quite as good as usual because

677
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 2: of the Michigan defense, but still, okay, how many points

678
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: do you need to beat that USC team?

679
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: I've got it at twenty seven to twenty three Michigan, So.

680
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: You think Michigan will hold See, I think you need

681
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: to score thirty points to beat USC.

682
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: That's entirely possible.

683
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: So I have a thirty one to twenty eight barely covering. Okay,

684
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: what is the number right now? I have it down

685
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: as two and a half, two and.

686
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: A half, eighty two percent of the bets and ninety

687
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: five percent of the money on USC.

688
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: I think is the move here?

689
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, in the cut of

690
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: your jib, but I'm gonna go Michigan.

691
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't. I still don't like these you know,

692
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: the non Donovan mccullay receiving options in terms of their hands,

693
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: in terms of what they can offer an offense down

694
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: the field. I think you need to show what Luke

695
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: Altmeyer and Illinois were able to show to beat this

696
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: USC team. So yeah, I'm going sc.

697
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: Seven point thirty. ABC Number ten Georgia on the road

698
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: at Auburn. They call it the Deep South's oldest rivalry.

699
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: Georgia is a three and a half point road favorite.

700
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Georgia rebounded nicely after the Alabama loss. They dominated Kentucky

701
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: last week Auburn is coming off a buye. Before that,

702
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: they had the close sixteen to ten loss to Texas

703
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: A and M back in Week five, so I'm surprise

704
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: you at all three and a half.

705
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 2: A little bit. But then I once again, and I've

706
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: done this multiple times this season, because I think we're

707
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: going to disagree on this game. Once again, I think

708
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: it's a good Auburn defense. Game's at Auburn. They're a

709
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: home dog in a big emotional spot and with a

710
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: crazed crowd, Like you can't here's my problem with your

711
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: line of thinking, and this is why you're always wrong.

712
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: And that's okay, we love you anyway. Sure, I think

713
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: you make up your mind about a lot of teams

714
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: on like September twenty second, I think you do, okay,

715
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: and I think you forget how ridiculous this sport is.

716
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: That Auburn could beat Georgia and then lose to you know,

717
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: take your pick.

718
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: I mean all you gotta do is log onto Twitter

719
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: for five seconds to remember how ridiculous the sport is.

720
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: So no, that's not lost to me. But okay, continue, continue,

721
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: please continue.

722
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is Auburn could beat Georgia. And

723
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: lose to Kentucky, and nobody would bat an eye right

724
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: Kentucky's in a few weeks. It's not the next game.

725
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: But I'm just going to stick with my life philosophy

726
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 2: here and those all the boxes are checked to me. Now,

727
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: I don't love Auburn's pass defense all the time. They're

728
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,919
Speaker 2: really good against the run.

729
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: Are you gonna take Auburn out right?

730
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: I am taking Auburn. Come on, they're my home dog

731
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 2: of the week. Are you serious? Yes?

732
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: Wow, I don't even have where's my sound here? I

733
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: gotta find the sound. I was not prepared for them.

734
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: I agree thes home dog of the week.

735
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 2: So Georgia does have ole miss not that they're looking

736
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: past a game Jord and her, but they have all

737
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: missed next week. Wow, I'm just telling you. I'm telling you,

738
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: I'm not man.

739
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: You are out of your gord.

740
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. Auburn's not that good, but they're good

741
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: enough occasionally. Right. So, I don't love the offensive line.

742
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: I don't love George's defensive line right now. I think

743
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: they're much stronger at linebacker.

744
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: But I just there is something at all I don't Buddy,

745
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I don't mean interrupt, Please continue.

746
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 2: Especially in the SEC. Home dogs with good defense is

747
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: in a big, emotional, crazed spot, is a tough team

748
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: to go against. Auburn's going to be up for this game.

749
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: Auburn's going to win this game. You can doubt me.

750
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm sure people listening are doubting me too. But you

751
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: know who dislikes Georgia more than anybody, Georgia fans. And

752
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: to me, right that gives me a little bit of pause.

753
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: That this team is good but shoots himself in the

754
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: foot too much. And you know, one game they're going

755
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: to look like it's a great play call from Mike Bobo,

756
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: like the game plan and the execution is great. In

757
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: the next game, you left scratching your head. I just

758
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: think you make up your mind too quickly during a season,

759
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: and I think there are ebbs and flows and peaks

760
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: and valleys. This is going to be a peak for Auburn.

761
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: I think I'm just weaker when it comes to calling

762
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: you out when you make up your mind too quickly,

763
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: because there are plenty of those moments too. Totally true,

764
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: But okay, listen, my picks have been horrible. I will

765
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: take the criticism. Who are we I've been bad at this,

766
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: but not on this game. Not on this game. I

767
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: will give you this. This is a very interesting matchup,

768
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: if only because both of these defenses have been nails

769
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 1: against the run. Both are third nationally in success rate

770
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: allowed on the ground. Right, what does that mean? It

771
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: just means they're both really good against the run. Okay,

772
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: I really really like the middle of this Auburn defense.

773
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: Keldric Fauk up front atkins Wood, you're the two linebackers behind.

774
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: They're nasty against the run. I do like the Auburn defense.

775
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: The difference for me, though, Auburn needs to run to

776
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: win this game, and I don't think Georgia does. And

777
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: I realize it may not be George's default mode to

778
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: have to throw it to win, but they can if

779
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: they have to. And I think we have seen enough

780
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: out of Gunner Stockton these last couple of weeks to

781
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: trust that in a pin, Yeah, he can do that.

782
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: He can make some big throws. We saw it against Tennessee.

783
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 2: YEP.

784
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: I just have no faith that Auburn is going to

785
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: be able to go out there and throw with Jackson Arnold,

786
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: and I think that is what Georgia is gonna require

787
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 1: them to do so. If George is able to keep

788
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: doing what they've been doing all season and bottle up

789
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: the run, I don't see a great path for Auburn here. Okay,

790
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it won't be close. I think Auburn's very

791
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: good at getting in the close games. They're probably one

792
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: of the best teams in the nation at that. But

793
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: if Jackson Arnold has to throw at thirty times to win, nah.

794
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: I'm not a Jackson ale guy. I'm not gonna come

795
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: here and stump for him.

796
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: If they throw the ball thirty times with Jackson Arlo,

797
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna win.

798
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: Thirty times thirty times? This isn't terrible, but not great,

799
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: not ideal. No, if he's throwing the.

800
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: Ball thirty times, they lose. Okay, I got it at

801
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty one Georgia.

802
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm planning my flag. I can't live chalk ty.

803
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: I can't live chalk a home dog with a good

804
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: defense in a rivalry spot, in a frenzied place.

805
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: The line is definitely in your favor here, though. Yeah,

806
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: of course, the line is definitely in your favor. Two

807
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: thirds of the public bets are on Auburn. The ninety

808
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: two percent of the case is on Georgia.

809
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: FYI, Okay, that's fine.

810
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: Let's go to Little Big twelve after dark. If you're interested.

811
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: Dan always another one. We're gonna have to explain this

812
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: line to me. Okay, the bets, the money, it's all

813
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: in Utah. Utah has been relatively anonymous outside of that

814
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: Texas Tech game. Gave that one away late. It was

815
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: close for a while, but Tech pulled away. Otherwise, Utah

816
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: has pretty much smoked everybody else that they've played. They

817
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: are at home in this matchup against ASU. They are

818
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: a five and a half point favorite. I was not

819
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: in rest by Devin Dampier when I saw him against

820
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: Texas Tech.

821
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: He was hurt.

822
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: He's hurt and maybe maybe Mike sell me yeah and

823
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: maybe texta just that good, you know, totally true. We

824
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: need more data on that front.

825
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 2: The fourth quarter was Texas Tech didn't look that great

826
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: in terms of penalties and shooting themselves in the foot

827
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 2: those first three quarters with Baron Morton.

828
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, but defensively they're pretty good.

829
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: Definitely, at least.

830
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: I think at this point in the season, we know

831
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: a lot more about Arizona State than we do to Utah.

832
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 1: Would you agree with that statement.

833
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 2: Probably.

834
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: I like ASU's defense a lot. I like that they're

835
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: a have a heavy defense, fourth in the nation with

836
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: nineteen sacks, eleventh in the nation with forty two tackles

837
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: for loss, So they're trying to force the issue. I'm

838
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: curious to see how Devin Dampier deals with that, because, again,

839
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: my impression after watching him against Tech was that he

840
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,479
Speaker 1: looked like New Mexico's former quarterback. That may not be fair.

841
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: I know there's a whole injury thing, and look, you're

842
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: still kind of getting used to this as well, but

843
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: that to me was the big red flag when I

844
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: was going through this one. How I think ASU is

845
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: going to try and force the issue, and I'm not

846
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: sure how Utah is going to respond.

847
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 2: Force what issue?

848
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: Force the issue? With their defense, it is a playmaking

849
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: defense that is relying on havoc to try and turn

850
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: the game in their favor.

851
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I think this is a sustenance game. I think

852
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: this is sustaining right. This is Arizona State with inconsistent

853
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: results in sustaining drives, which has led to back and

854
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: forth games that they've come out of nicely, but fallen

855
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: behind in games. The Baylor game was crazy close, came

856
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: down to the end. The TCU game was crazy close,

857
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 2: came down to the end. Obviously, not great performances away

858
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,959
Speaker 2: from home this season. In the lost in Mississippi State.

859
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: This game is at altitude. You know, I love my altitude.

860
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 2: There's a feet above sea level advantage in Salt Lake City.

861
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: Arizona State's not good on third downs. Utah's really really

862
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: good on third downs. Arizona States defense has been good.

863
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 2: They've made plays, but they haven't been incredible against the run.

864
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: Utah basically only wants to run the ball. I think

865
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: it's a bad matchup for ASU. I know Utah hasn't

866
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: had a ton of success in the Big Twelve thus far,

867
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: but I think they're gonna force a ton of passing downs.

868
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: And as much as I like Sam Levitt and Jordan Tyson,

869
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: I just think the numbers, the rhythm of the game

870
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: that Utah's I think going to be able to dictate.

871
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: I think it just favors the utes here. I think

872
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 2: Utah is just able to determine everything that happens. They're

873
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: just gonna be able to determine the rhythm of this game.

874
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: I think ASU is good but not great. So far,

875
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: they haven't been able to separate. So I'm going Utah here.

876
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 2: That's why I think the line is what it is.

877
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: I'm steering into that number that flummixes you.

878
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: I've got it at twenty one nineteen Utah Utah wins,

879
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: Arizona State covers.

880
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: I have that too, I have twenty four to twenty one.

881
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm into when I say I'm into the number.

882
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: I understand the number. I just don't think Utah has

883
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,959
Speaker 2: the kind of pop on offense needed to score more

884
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: than that. So this is another one of Yeah.

885
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: I think if there were a team in this game

886
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: that ended up pulling away, it would be Arizona State.

887
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if on the road, well, no, I

888
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: guess Texas Tech did.

889
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: But I'm saying after the fact, if we look back

890
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: and we find out that the final score in this

891
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: game was thirty four to fourteen, somebody, yeah, without seeing

892
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: which team was where, my assumption would be that Arizona

893
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: State would be the one that would run away because

894
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: I like where they're at at quarterback. I like where

895
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: they've been at now running the football with three League Brown,

896
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: who's been pretty good this year. Jordan Tyson has had

897
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: a good season as well. Like they've got the playmakers

898
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: that I think you can count a little bit more

899
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: on on offense. If I saw that score line, that's

900
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: what I would expect. But I also think Utah has

901
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: been built for these grinded out style games for almost

902
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: the entire tenure of Kyle Winningham.

903
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: Is there, But is there an ASU game where you're

904
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: like they are a blowout kind of team from this season,

905
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: not for this season.

906
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: No, no, no, not for this season. But I'm saying, with

907
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: what they've got on offense, I would assume if I

908
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: saw that score that would be Arizona State.

909
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 2: Oh see, I disagree, But that's okay.

910
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: Let's do some quick mentions. Okay, is a big week

911
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: of games. A steely Saturday Colon do the dirty work

912
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: on Friday Night ESPN two South Florida the Bulls on

913
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: the road at the Mean Green.

914
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: Woo.

915
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: This is a banger. This is a bang. I see

916
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: one and a half points in favor of South Florida

917
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: in favor of North Texas. Let's just call it a

918
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: coin flip. Dan obviously you know why I'm gonna go.

919
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Byron Brown.

920
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: Okay.

921
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: I like his ability to scramble. I think that's the

922
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: difference against North Texas. North Texas does not really play defense.

923
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: They haven't really played a quarterback like this either. I

924
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: know they beat Army, but Byron Brown needs a different cat.

925
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: So give me South Florida to win on the road.

926
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: But this is a very, very very big G six game.

927
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: Can you finish this sentence? TI? I bet you can.

928
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: This is the true story of seven strangers picked to

929
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: live in a house, work together, and have their lives

930
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 2: taped to find out what happens when people stop being.

931
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: Polite and start being mean and start being real. Yeah, okay, yeah.

932
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: I think North Texas has had a really impressive season

933
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: thus far. I think their offense has been really good,

934
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 2: their defense mostly has been really good. The results have

935
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: been there. They're five to zero, they're coming off of

936
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 2: a bye. This is a huge spot when most of

937
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 2: the college football viewing audience is going to see the

938
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: mean Green for the first or maybe second time, they

939
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: get a South Florida team who has won some big

940
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 2: games this season. I just think it's a little bit

941
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: too real for the mean Green with South Florida coming in.

942
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: Also South Florida is are they also coming off of

943
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: a bye I believe so yah, South Florida coming off

944
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: of a bye I just you know what it is.

945
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: I think it's more to me about the South Florida defense,

946
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: I want to say, than it is about the offense.

947
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: I think South USF is going to generate some chunk plays,

948
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: but I think they're able. They're going to be able

949
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: to get off the field a little bit more than

950
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 2: some of what North Texas has seen thus far. So

951
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: I'm going bulls.

952
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: Here on the road three thirty ESPN. Iowa State on

953
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: the road only a three point favorite at Colorado.

954
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah give me Iowa.

955
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: State, give me Colorado, uh, twenty seven to twenty one.

956
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 1: I think there is a good opportunity here for Iowa

957
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: State to grind this one out, put together a bunch

958
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: of drives that are like twelve plays and five minutes long.

959
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: I would say, among the handful of Colorado's deficiencies so

960
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: far this year, they cannot get off the field on

961
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: third downs. So totally, if you're a Buffs fan, get

962
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: ready for one of those annoying games where the Clones

963
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: are just running three yards and a cloud of dust.

964
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: They get at the third and shore, they get another

965
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: first down. They keep the drives going in perpetuity.

966
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: Totally disagree.

967
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: I love it. We disagree on almost everything today.

968
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 2: I think Colorado has been quietly pretty good, even though

969
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: the record doesn't indicate it. Their games have featured a

970
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 2: ton of mistakes by everybody. Iowa State is starting your

971
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: two least athletic friends at cornerback right now. They're not

972
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 2: going to be able to defend the past this season,

973
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: all that well, their back end is shredded. I think

974
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 2: it's a great matchup for Colorado. I'm taking the Buffs here.

975
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: And you know, obviously a lot of energy and emotion

976
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:40,240
Speaker 2: with Dion dealing with even more injury stuff and hopefully

977
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: he's healing up alright, dealing with blood clot issues, so

978
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: you know, obviously hope everything is pointing in the right

979
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 2: direction for Deon Sanders. So I'm taking Colorado here. I

980
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 2: think it is crazy to think that the mistakes will

981
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: continue at this pace. After last week, I think they're

982
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit more but and I think

983
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to win a relative shootout something

984
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: like thirty four to thirty.

985
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: Also at three thirty, this one on Fox. It's TCU

986
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: on the road at k State TCUs a point and

987
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: a half road favorite. I have no idea what to

988
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: make of this game. I would not touch the point

989
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: spread in this game with ten foot pole. I understand

990
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: why it is where it is. I think I trust

991
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: TCU a lot more right now than I do k State,

992
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: even though k State, you know, definitely had a shot

993
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: at winning that Baylor game a week ago. Yeah, I

994
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: am gonna stick to my guns and go TCU, but

995
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: I am not touching this one. Like I said, with

996
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: a ten foot pole, I could see this one going

997
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: a million different directions.

998
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, game's gonna end at night. Obviously, this is three

999
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: thirty eastern. I'm gonna go Kansas State here as a

1000
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 2: home dog. I think the way in which Kansas State

1001
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: lost last week to Baylor was kind of an anomaly.

1002
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: It's kind of a weird way to lose. It is

1003
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: a letdown spot because that's, you know, a big emotional drain.

1004
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: I just think Kansas State at home in this spot

1005
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 2: against a somewhat vulnerable TCU defense. I don't know, you

1006
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: sort of have to have faith a little bit in

1007
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: Kansas State's ability to limit crazy mistakes, and they'll make

1008
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 2: a crazy mistake or three. I just I don't know.

1009
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: I think I don't think TCU is the kind of

1010
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 2: team that can go on the road and win a

1011
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: game like this often some I okay State.

1012
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: Seven forty five South Carolina on the road and Death

1013
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: Valley at night SEC Network, LSU favored by eight and

1014
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: one half points. I love LSU in this matchup, Dan, Okay,

1015
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: give me the byue bangles.

1016
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: I like South Carolina. I do outright probably, no, no,

1017
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 2: not outright. But there is something about South Carolina right

1018
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 2: now coming off of a bye, and I think I

1019
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: believe they both are I just think they can score

1020
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 2: seventeen points and I don't think LSU can score twenty six.

1021
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: So I think South Carolina's defense is wow, okay, not amazing.

1022
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: I think they're okay, they're terrible. I'm third down on

1023
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. I don't like this offensive

1024
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: line for South Carolina at all. They haven't been able

1025
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: to run two good quarterbacks. Big emotional spot. Is this

1026
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: a look ahead spot for LSU at all? Now they

1027
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: have Vandy next Vanya in Nashville. The Vandy's good, but

1028
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to occupy all their attention

1029
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: right now. I'm just not in on the LSU offense

1030
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 2: being able to score twenty eight points against South Carolina,

1031
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: So I'm taking the points.

1032
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 1: And finally, eight pm ESPN two, it is number eighteen BYU,

1033
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: a point and a half favorite on the road against Arizona.

1034
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: By the way, BYU is five and zero. According to

1035
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: our friend Bill Connolly and his projections, BYU is projected

1036
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: to be a one score affair or in a one

1037
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: score affair in five of its next seven games.

1038
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's got.

1039
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: Him going eleven and one right now per projections. The

1040
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: remaining schedule looks kind of tough to me, so I'm

1041
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: not going to commit to that yet. But I do

1042
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: like them here. I like BYU here minus the number.

1043
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: I think their numbers and their reputation are a little

1044
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: bit inflated, given they've played maybe the worst team in

1045
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve in West Virginia, maybe the worst team

1046
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 2: in the ACC in Stanford. I think BYU is good.

1047
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: I think this is a tough spot. I think a

1048
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: home dog Arizona team in the desert when they have

1049
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: a feisty, not electric, but feisty defense, ability to run

1050
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 2: the ball. I think it's a bad spot for BYU.

1051
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: I think Arizona takes it.

1052
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: And we disagreed on almost everything. We read it like

1053
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: one game all week. This is bad news for me.

1054
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: This is very bad news for me. Now, look, this

1055
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: could be an anomaly week for you. Let's do some

1056
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: under the radar games quick, please, all right, so these

1057
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: are games that I'm interested in. Could maybe see Ben

1058
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: upset an underdog. Let's go through these rapid fire. Okay,

1059
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: let's high new ESPN. Your Pit Panthers on the road

1060
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: at the number twenty five Florida State Seminoles. Florida State

1061
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: is favored by ten and a half points. Give me

1062
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: Pitt plus the points.

1063
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 2: I love Pit plus the points as well. Here Now,

1064
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: if this game were at night, if it scammer three thirty,

1065
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: maybe I'd reconsider that's too many points for Florida State.

1066
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: And at a certain point, I'm not saying you disregard

1067
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 2: Week one, but you put it in its little place.

1068
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: You put it in a partition. Week one week, you're

1069
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 2: talking about a fruit true freshman right quarterback for pitt Yep,

1070
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 2: it's a tough spot. There is a huge let down

1071
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: moment for Florida State, and you do have to ask

1072
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: if we only partially consider Alabama because it's Week one,

1073
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 2: what is Florida State shown sinse against quality competition? And

1074
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 2: that's an zero to two record in the ACC.

1075
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: I did not mean to interject with my lock of

1076
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: the week, so now although I kind of did, cause

1077
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: I am back in on the pit Panthers. We're back ba.

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00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 2: What mean they demolished a likely bad Boston.

1079
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: College team, a likely very bad Boston College. We'll get

1080
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: to that in a second. Also at noon, UCLA on

1081
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 1: the road at Michigan State. Michigan State favored by eight

1082
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: and one half points. Probably a decent time to fade

1083
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: UCLA on the road.

1084
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 2: I like Michigan State. Here if Ucla, look we're talking

1085
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: about hypotheticals. If UCLA competed but lost close late to

1086
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 2: Penn State, this is a ten and a half eleven

1087
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: and a half point fourteen and a half point spread

1088
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 2: from Michigan State. I think UCLA is rightfully being rewarded

1089
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,720
Speaker 2: for their performance last week, and Michigan State being favored

1090
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: by this kind of number this season doesn't fully make sense,

1091
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 2: but UCLA lost Northwestern. They've shown themselves to be pretty

1092
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 2: bad at times this year. I'm going sparty here.

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00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: Three point thirty. We've got Nebraska on the road at Maryland.

1094
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: Nebraska favored by a touchdown. It's about to be October

1095
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: the eleventh. Yeah, Nebraska's about to play its first true

1096
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: road game.

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00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: I saw this.

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00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: Have you not gone out for a true road game?

1099
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: Of course? They played opening week at Arrowhead against Cincinnati.

1100
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: I think they win. I think it's close. I think

1101
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: it's something like thirty four thirty one. But as always

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00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 1: Dan fear the Turtle. I think Maryland keeps it close.

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00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: Look, whatever Dylan Royola was or was not last season

1104
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: on the road, and what this offense was on the

1105
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 2: road does not mean that it's getting replicated this season.

1106
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: But they were pretty atrocious on the road last year.

1107
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: And Dan doesn't forget not on Steele's Saturday Colon do

1108
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: the dirty work. I think Maryland does enough dirty work.

1109
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 2: Nebraska is somehow, some way able to pull it out.

1110
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: But I think it's close. I still think the Maryland

1111
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 2: defense is legit, if not excellent, but they're legit and

1112
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: so situationally, I'm going home dog here with Maryland three thirty.

1113
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: Air Force on the road at UNLV. I bring this

1114
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: up because you mentioned this the other day. Yeah, UNLV

1115
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: is five and zero. They got a big one next

1116
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: week on the road at Boise, but the rest of

1117
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: the schedule is very manageable, so do not sleep on UNLV.

1118
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: They are a six point home favorite against air Force.

1119
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: I am taking air Force plus the points. Dan, I

1120
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: think prime look ahead spot here for UNLV.

1121
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, air Force is also one in four, and I

1122
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: don't think they have an FBS win in this moment

1123
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 2: right correct. Air Force's past defense is likely the worst

1124
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 2: in the country, and UNLV can throw the ball and

1125
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: Dan Mullen calls a good game. They're good on third downs.

1126
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: I actually am worried that this line is too low,

1127
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 2: but I can't find a reason to take air air

1128
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Speaker 2: Force has been atrocious this year. I'm going UNLV Lock of.

1129
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Speaker 1: The week, Lock of the week.

1130
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Speaker 2: I'm going the other.

1131
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 3: Way, look of the week.

1132
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: Love it. Seven point thirty on Fox Kansas on the

1133
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,959
Speaker 1: road at Texas Tech. Texas Tech favored by about two scores. Yeah,

1134
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: give me Tech. I want Tech.

1135
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: Who's the best thrower that Texas Tech has faced this season,

1136
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: the best thrower, the best person to throw the ball

1137
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: downfield successfully with some regularity, not a ton. Texas Tech

1138
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 2: has played against Oregon State, Kent State, Utah, Houston, and

1139
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: Arkansas Pine Bluff. I believe right, So Devin dan Pierre

1140
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: likely not, Connor Wigmans, the young Chris likely not. Milinke

1141
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: Murphy has been awful, and the Oregon State offense has

1142
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: been awful this season. This is all a way of

1143
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: saying Jalen Daniels and Kansas are offering up something that

1144
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: Texas Tech has not been able to prove itself against

1145
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: this year in terms of pass defense. So I think Kansas,

1146
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 2: just with that, is going to be able to keep

1147
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 2: it closer because they're going to challenge Texas tack in

1148
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: a way that they haven't been this season. So I

1149
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: think Texas Tech wins this game. I think the number

1150
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: is too.

1151
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: High and last, but not least seven thirty ACC Network

1152
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: Clempson on the road at Boston College. Boston College is

1153
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: a fourteen point home dog. Gave me damn points. Gave

1154
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: me the points? Really, yeah, give me the points at night.

1155
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I think Clemson is an average

1156
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: ACC team and that's plenty to lay the lumber against

1157
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 2: Boston College.

1158
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: Wow, so we have like universal disagreement on this episode.

1159
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 2: We have universal disagreement. Okay, how many points did Boston

1160
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: College give up to Michigan State?

1161
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: Forty two? Yeah?

1162
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: Michigan State on offense is it feels very like at

1163
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: best average maybe above average forty two. So I know

1164
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: Clemson's been disappointing and Clemson has occupied that average ACC space.

1165
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think Clemson was this game after

1166
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: what I saw from them last week. Sure, forty to fourteen?

1167
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: Right in sliverbo at gmail dot com. Let us know

1168
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: your thoughts on these games and more. Don't forget to

1169
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: go on out to forbowlers dot com and get in

1170
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: on run the board, play for that five hundred dollars

1171
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: piece a gift card. It can't believe I'm saying that

1172
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: out loud. Okay, I just need to acknowledge something.

1173
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 2: Quick, please.

1174
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: The ball hood's in a bit of a curious situation

1175
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: right now. Uh oh it is it is. Let me

1176
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: zoom out for one second. Okay, I'm ready. We asked

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01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: the people to cancel their plans two weeks ago, because

1178
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: Week five was crazy and then last week ended up

1179
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: being crazy as well. So even if you cashed in

1180
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: on the window that I gave you the opportunity window

1181
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: to go out and be amongst the people, might have

1182
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: been distracted. You might have been checking your phone, not

1183
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: as person as you need to be. Right and now

1184
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: we got week seven, which is also pretty meaty, steely as.

1185
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: It were, steely Saturday, call and do the dirty work right.

1186
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: We Gate looks good. We Gate looks good, looks really good,

1187
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: and so like, if you're at home listening to this

1188
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: right now, if you've got real world obligations, you got

1189
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: to be thinking, like, what am I supposed to do?

1190
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 1: What I am suggesting here may be a bit controversial,

1191
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: but I want you to hear me out. Okay, okay,

1192
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: there are really good games in every time slot this week.

1193
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: I think the afternoon games could end up being good

1194
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: in name only. I think there's a chance we get

1195
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of blowouts, maybe a close red River game.

1196
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 1: But if you're on Eastern Time, if you're on Central Time,

1197
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: that's where most of our audience is typically located. My

1198
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 1: suggestion is a do an early dinner. The weather looks

1199
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: nice across the Eastern Seaboard, across most of the country,

1200
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: great time of year. I'm a sucker for a spout

1201
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: with a nice patio. Maybe you got one of those,

1202
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: So I say, early dinner, find a patio, hopefully, enjoy

1203
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 1: some cooler temperatures, grab a drink or two, set the mood,

1204
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: set up a nice night on the couch. Oh oh

1205
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: for a little todd Black Legend, Chill.

1206
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 2: Black legs and chill. Does anybody else's name last name

1207
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: rhyme with flicks? I better than black Ledge? Did you

1208
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: look this up?

1209
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: No? What? Eagle and chill didn't really work for me.

1210
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: Black Legend Chill, though, has a nice little ring to it.

1211
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 2: By the way, sidebar. And I'll say this artfully because

1212
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 2: I know we're probably listened to in Chrysler Pacifica's across

1213
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 2: this great land. Which announcer has been the soundtrack to

1214
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 2: passionate evenings the most?

1215
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: I mean it might be Gush Johnson.

1216
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,959
Speaker 2: No, well he's early, he's at noon.

1217
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean you could you can DVR game.

1218
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 2: I know you can do afternoon to lights here, Ty,

1219
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 2: I can explain to you that the details after Yeah,

1220
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 2: but I think typically you're talking about late night Saturday

1221
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: night and may he rest in peace? Is it Robert

1222
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 2: Kakawala Hawaii? I think I pronounced that right. I apologize

1223
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: if I messed that up. He's a legend. I don't know.

1224
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think who does, like, who did all

1225
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 2: of those PAC twelve after dark games?

1226
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 1: Right?

1227
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 2: Who is Guy Haberman? Who was doing all those like

1228
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: Wazoo col games? And that's probably May Jones is.

1229
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: Doing late night games? Rod Gilmore? Is it Rod Gilmour?

1230
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 2: Throwback? Steve phisioc Petros Papadacus.

1231
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: Petro, No, definitely not Petro's. That's a little well.

1232
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 2: I'm just saying happens to be on in the room

1233
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: while it's happening. Who has been the inadvertent commentator and

1234
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 2: voice to a many assaultry evening.

1235
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,479
Speaker 1: Maybe a little aniche Shroff wild Card.

1236
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 2: It just feels like afternoon. It just feels like the

1237
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: he's not in the vicinity enough. Yeah, I think it

1238
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 2: has to be somebody that was doing those later night

1239
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 2: games PAC twelve after dark, Yogi Roth, Sure, Yogi?

1240
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: You could you could text Yogi get his thoughts on it.

1241
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but who is who is that late night voice?

1242
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: I'm Blackburn I'm doing Late Night Mountain West.

1243
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's Black Legend Chill in week seven. All right,

1244
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: fair enough, With all that being said, a special treat

1245
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: for the verballer hood in place of our normal quad

1246
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: Father segment. Oh, we have a celebrity guest picker, do

1247
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: we not?

1248
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: We do? Absolutely we do.

1249
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: It has been fourteen years since we last had this

1250
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: gentleman on the podcast with us. He is the soundtrack

1251
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: of your Saturday night college football viewing experience. Chris Fowler,

1252
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Solid Verbal.

1253
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 3: How are you sorry about the fourteen year gap. I've

1254
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 3: been busy, but that's a long time.

1255
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: No.

1256
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 3: Great to be with you guys. I'm a consumer of

1257
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 3: the pods. I appreciate what you guys do. Happy to join,

1258
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 3: Thank you.

1259
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 1: I have to admit I did see a recent Instagram

1260
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: post from you where you were advertising tongue in cheek

1261
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: the CF logo on a hat and I bit for

1262
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: a while. You said you put it on hats on polos.

1263
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: Once he said you put it on pajamas. That was

1264
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 1: when I started to like, I need to look into

1265
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: this a little bit more. But you had me for

1266
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: a hot second.

1267
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, herbs pajamas. I think I almost added the line

1268
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: so you can, you know, sleep with the logo, but

1269
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 3: I pulled back there. You know, you're a little bit

1270
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 3: gullible to get that far into When I said that

1271
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 3: all proceeds go to the Hedge Fund. It has an

1272
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 3: excellent return for most people at that point. If they

1273
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 3: didn't get it, then I pity them.

1274
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just thought maybe with your proximity to tennis,

1275
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: because everybody in tennis is like their own logo, I

1276
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: thought maybe this had rubbed off on you and you

1277
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: decided to take it in that direction.

1278
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 3: You still see RF logos, the Federal logos everywhere in tennis,

1279
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 3: even though he's been retired for a few years. So

1280
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 3: I hope to have that kind of longevity with the

1281
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 3: Chucks Fish. Do you know the restaurant. There's a bunch

1282
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 3: of Chucks Fish and southern towns and they gave me

1283
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 3: the merchant. I've done it twice now this is the

1284
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 3: second year I've pulled the prank and still get a

1285
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:52,840
Speaker 3: few people love it.

1286
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: So what's been the early highlight for you thus far?

1287
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: I mean we're not quite halfway into the college football season.

1288
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: But of course, in your role you have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to call some of the biggest games every week. Is

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Speaker 1: there a highlight that comes to mind? Is there something

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Speaker 1: about this season that feels different or the same versus

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Speaker 1: previous seasons that you've been on the call?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, the un predictability has been fun. I mean,

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Speaker 3: if you told me we're gonna sit here early October

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Speaker 3: and that the highest ranked teams in the SEC, the

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Speaker 3: conference where I live most of the time, the three

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Speaker 3: highest rank would not include Georgia, Texas, Alabama, LSU. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I didn't think a m Oklahoma and Ole Miss would

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Speaker 3: be that in that position. It shows the depth of

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 3: the league, but it also shows you that pre season

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01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 3: ideas about who's good or who's not good have been wrong.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm covering the Red River game, and you know,

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01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 3: Texas has been a massive disappointment trying to get to

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01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 3: the bottom of that. But two losses already creates real

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01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 3: urgency early October on their end of things. But which

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Speaker 3: I enjoy, I mean UCLA stunning Penn State. That was

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01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 3: one of my favorite moments, the moment of the season.

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01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 3: Jerry Neuheisel, blonde locks, flowing, boyish smile, tight ends coach

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01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 3: turned to play caller. Mesmerizes the mighty Penn State defense.

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01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 3: They score six such downs. He gets carry off the

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Speaker 3: field as new offensive coordinator. And I known Jerry a

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01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:22,799
Speaker 3: long time. I knew Rick forever, and you know socially

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Speaker 3: Emn and so just have that moment, that unexpected moment.

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Speaker 3: It's the beauty of the sports. While we love that,

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01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,560
Speaker 3: I mean, no one saw that coming, and there'll be

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01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 3: other things we don't see coming. They have it almost

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01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:33,599
Speaker 3: every week.

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Speaker 2: So it's interesting you bring that up. And for so

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Speaker 2: long you called games on the West Coast, you called

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Speaker 2: games in the Midwest. Obviously you have a connection to

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01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: State college growing up. Has it hit you that you're

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01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 2: doing less, if not none of those games in that

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01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 2: specific way that like, obviously these are things are out

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01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: of your control, but like, is that different in the

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Speaker 2: back of your mind?

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01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 3: Has it hit me? Yeah? Me, hit me with a sledgehammer.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I love being in the SEC. It's the

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 3: deepest conference. The excitement of the games just jumps off

1329
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 3: the screen in prime time. Don't get me wrong, We've

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01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 3: had really good matchups. But I do miss going out West.

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01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,480
Speaker 3: I miss going to ots in the Husky stadium, the coliseum,

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01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 3: the white out, the Horseshoe, the Big House. I mean,

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01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 3: you know you I'm still engaged with that conference, but

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01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: it's not as easy. And you know, you know, game

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Speaker 3: Day for a long time, for twenty five years, we

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01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 3: were agnostic. We could just go wherever the biggest game

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01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 3: was and it was kind of fun and you get

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01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 3: a better sense of the sport nationally. We hit him

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01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 3: in the playoff. We saw the Buckeyes four times in

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01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 3: the playoff. We got to Columbus, and I imagine we'll

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01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 3: do something like that again this year, going to places

1342
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 3: we don't get to go to the regular season. But yeah,

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01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 3: I missed the national scope of it for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And one of the things, I mean, you just

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01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 2: bring up travel and going out west, and we have

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01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 2: a couple of guest picker options for you. Obviously you're

1347
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: no longer the host of college Game Day, but I'm

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01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,520
Speaker 2: just always curious about things involved with your job, involved

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01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 2: in the things that you take in. So I want

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01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: you to pick a couple things before we talk dose

1351
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 2: ekis and get you out of here, if that's cool

1352
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 2: with you, of course. Okay, my first item here, just

1353
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 2: because you're on the road, a ton middle seat coach

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01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 2: with a sixty percent luggage arrival rate. That's a tough

1355
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,839
Speaker 2: one to pick, or flying private with the most toxic

1356
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 2: of kirkharb Streets mentions.

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Speaker 3: I would never choose a back he is, so be.

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01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:36,679
Speaker 2: Easily, be easily Okay. Next item. Here we go calling

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01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 2: a game in which the home team wins on a

1360
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:43,879
Speaker 2: big play or the road team shocks a stun stadium

1361
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: and removes the oxygen.

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Speaker 3: Both are exciting. Yeah, we expect to most players, they

1363
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 3: get more joy. I was silencing a road crowd than

1364
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 3: being part of a field rush at home. And that's

1365
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 3: maybe the kind of red ass contrarian that a lot

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01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 3: of players carry with them. I mean I love a

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01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 3: home crowd. I mean I got into this business because

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01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 3: the joy of the crowd collectively was what was. It

1369
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: attracted me to the radio and the TV when I

1370
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 3: was ten years old. So if I'm being honest, there's

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01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 3: nothing better than you know, eighty ninety thousand people expressing

1372
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,520
Speaker 3: joy at the same time for the same reason.

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Speaker 1: Nailing an impossible name and getting a note of thank you,

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 1: perhaps from somebody from the family, or nailing a chaotic

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01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: call with all the right details, all the duance one

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01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:30,720
Speaker 1: shotting an incredible call.

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Speaker 3: He is hypothetical. I've never got to thank you from

1378
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 3: anybody for killing oh, but.

1379
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 2: That would be such a good feeling.

1380
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 3: They assume you're going to do it. You do get

1381
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 3: messages when you butcher the name at this right football preps,

1382
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 3: you know, for tennis and vice versa. Casenta's names are

1383
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 3: really really hard. Now, I'd rather nail the call, I mean,

1384
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 3: and it's not just about screaming and yelling. It's sort

1385
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 3: of like if you can document it beautifully, and people

1386
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 3: tend to remember the calls where you lose your mind

1387
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,799
Speaker 3: and you're yell it, you know, because something has happened

1388
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 3: that's earth shaking or season changing. I like to be

1389
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 3: technically clean. You never get a thousand grade for a game.

1390
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, it all goes together. I mean, you know,

1391
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 3: it's funny. Fans really like you when you have the

1392
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 3: good fortune of documenting a big moment for their team

1393
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 3: because they associated positively with the greatest memories that they

1394
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 3: have as fans of that team, whether it's been recent

1395
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 3: years like Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, things like that, and

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01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 3: they don't like you if you time you met gut punching,

1397
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 3: you know, soul crushing moments for their team. So it

1398
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:40,520
Speaker 3: goes with the territory.

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Speaker 1: I know you've got a lot of interaction at least

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01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: on some level with Kirk Curve streets pop. Are you

1401
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: more of a belly rubbed guy or you go in

1402
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:49,839
Speaker 1: ear scretches.

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01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 3: This pup is like eighty pounds. So Peter is a

1404
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 3: big boy. He's got a giant blockhead. I had three

1405
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 3: Golden Retrievers when I was younger. We've always had them,

1406
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 3: so have a sawt spider as like most of the

1407
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 3: world does for Golden Retrievers. I also see him for

1408
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 3: what he is, a dog and not a mythical, mystical

1409
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,479
Speaker 3: beast that has to be like photographed. I mean, it's

1410
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 3: just Peter and he's around all the time, and I

1411
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 3: love him. Yeah, I think a good belly scratches.

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01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: Nice calling a snow game or a monsoon game.

1413
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 3: Most snow game easily monsoons the water can get in

1414
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 3: the booth, so it's just it's just tough on the player.

1415
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 3: You've had a snow globe game. I think it was

1416
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 3: the babble for Paul Bunyan's acts a Minnesota Wisconsin game

1417
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 3: one time was really.

1418
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: Fun calling a game completely wiped out and exhausted or

1419
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 2: taking that risk tie into dose ekis taking that risk

1420
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 2: and filling up a coffee mug twenty minutes before kickoff.

1421
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 3: I would never allow myself to that, not be fully caffeinated,

1422
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 3: fully lions maimed. If you know what that is, you

1423
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:57,679
Speaker 3: can go sa all those kind of brain brain alignment things.

1424
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 3: I believe in those supplements. I believe heavily. Cassie, you

1425
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,480
Speaker 3: step in there not mentally prepared. You know, we're exhausted,

1426
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 3: but you got to find ways to overcome that. Adrenaline

1427
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 3: is a great way to overcome it too, just being present,

1428
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 3: realizing what you get to do where you are and

1429
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 3: how much fun it is. As exhausting as the hours

1430
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 3: can be to get to there, the four hours in

1431
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 3: the booth, you don't have time for that.

1432
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 2: So how close I mean, we've seen, we've seen situations

1433
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 2: in other booths. How close a call have you had

1434
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 2: when perhaps you were too hydrated, or had too much coffee,

1435
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 2: or the body was just not responding the way you

1436
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 2: would have liked to. How close a call have you

1437
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: had over the course of your very long career.

1438
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 3: I think I know what you're referring to. You know,

1439
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,840
Speaker 3: it's it's just one of those things you learn over

1440
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 3: time with wisdom and experience, how to regulate that. How

1441
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 3: never do you pitch? And so I never peed my

1442
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 3: pants in the booth. That's what you're asking.

1443
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm asking. So we had Jenny Dell

1444
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: on from CBS before the season started, and she said,

1445
01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 2: Brad Nessler, former ESPN colleague, never or eats anything over

1446
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 2: the course of a day before kickoff, even if it's

1447
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 2: a night game.

1448
01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 3: That's a bit a stream. Yeah, I have no problem

1449
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 3: with bodily functions after normal eating and drinking all day.

1450
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 3: So thankfully I love NAS. That was way too much information.

1451
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 3: But no, that's that's funny.

1452
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: No, I love to hear it because to me, it's

1453
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: it's definitely a risk. I've heard this from people and

1454
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 2: it ties in perfectly. You are here with dose ekis

1455
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 2: and the going for dose, which I guess takes out

1456
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,719
Speaker 2: a whole new meeting based on my previous question even there,

1457
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: But to talk about the campaign, talk about the risk.

1458
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 2: Are you yourself risk averse and have grown into it?

1459
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 3: So not risk averse? No, I think the dose ekis campaign.

1460
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 3: Going for dos is natural client because two point conversions

1461
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 3: are fun conversions of college football. What do you think

1462
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 3: the success rate is? Do you know? I mean I

1463
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 3: looked it up because I wanted to be aware of it.

1464
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 3: What the success and for two point tries in college football?

1465
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 2: It's about fifty Yeah.

1466
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 3: That's good, just under fifty percent. I don't have data

1467
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 3: for this year yet, but so that makes it fun.

1468
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 3: It's three yards away. Going for dose often decides a game.

1469
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:15,679
Speaker 3: We go to these overtime games. I'm a little bit

1470
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 3: mixed feelings about the collegeable version of the penalty shootout

1471
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 3: where you get to triple overtime and it becomes a

1472
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 3: series of going for dose. I mean, it's exciting because

1473
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 3: any play can end the game, but it's a little

1474
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 3: bit like a penalty kick. I am a huge soccer fan,

1475
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,560
Speaker 3: and I don't like when massive games go to penalties.

1476
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 3: But you know, in college football, it's also the analytics

1477
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 3: come into play. Teams are going for dose in the

1478
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 3: middle of the game in situations where it's not easy

1479
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 3: to understand why you'd want to do that, why the

1480
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 3: extra point makes a difference. So it becomes an analyalytical point.

1481
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,560
Speaker 3: But it's a great campaign. They'll say he's done a

1482
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 3: lot for college football. I've been involve with him for

1483
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 3: a long time and I enjoyed the experience thorough.

1484
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: Give me your number one food to eat with a

1485
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 2: dose echis what pairs well if you dose Eki Somalier?

1486
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 2: What is? What is the move here for a cold

1487
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: frosty mug?

1488
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:07,760
Speaker 3: What doesn't pair well?

1489
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: Good answer, company.

1490
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 3: Man, I mean, you know, obviously the obvious answer is

1491
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 3: nice comfort food like Mexican food and nice burrito. I mean,

1492
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 3: that's that's the that's the obvious answer.

1493
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: Chris Fowler again, you can catch his voice every Saturday night,

1494
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 1: or I guess every Saturday. I know this week will

1495
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 1: be calling the Red River rivalry. I know you can't

1496
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: pick the game, but what is your biggest point of curiosity?

1497
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 1: Now this is a pretty big matchup. Obviously there are

1498
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 1: competing storylines on both sides. But heading into this week,

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Speaker 1: what what is it that Chris Fowler will be most

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Speaker 1: interested in watching out there?

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01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 3: We've seen Oklahoma got his sense of their defense. They

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01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 3: played like two real games, and I'm not even sure

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01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 3: the real games were against great offenses. So statistically they're phenomenal.

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01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 3: I want to see that against Texas, and then the

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01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 3: number one theme of the game is what's up with Texas?

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01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 3: Not arch Manning. His play has been if he's ever

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01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 3: going to match the hype or reach those those levels

1508
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 3: of people expected if every time he misses a deep shot,

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01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 3: oh my god, Well, you know it's going to happen

1510
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 3: in college football. But what's up the offensive line? You've

1511
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 3: always underestimated how hard it is to put together an

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01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 3: O line. Obviously, they've got a couple guys up that

1513
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,480
Speaker 3: offensive line that are starting in the NFL, so assembling

1514
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 3: the new guys has been really challenging. Six sacks in

1515
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 3: this swamp is unacceptable. Lack of a running game is

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01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,679
Speaker 3: just mystifying to me. So what's up with that front?

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01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 3: Defensively I think is still pretty good, but they also

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01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 3: crumbled in that area against an offense that couldn't make

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01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 3: a first down against Miami in the Gators, So there's

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01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 3: a lot of issues there. Looking forward to getting to Dallas,

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01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 3: talking to Sarking the players and kind of seeing what's

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01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: up with them, and that is because they can't lose

1523
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 3: this game and get and get to where they want

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01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 3: to go. So it's must win from here on out,

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01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 3: beginning on Saturday for the long runs.

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Speaker 2: I've got. By the way, Ty, I've got one more question.

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01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 2: We have Chris Pallor, the Voice of Tennis as well,

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01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 2: on the line. All Right, you can pick somebody who's

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01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: not named Yonic center Carlos aukrezt win a major in

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01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 2: the next year, in the next twelve months. Who's the pick?

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01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: That's good.

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01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 3: That's a good question. I mean, everybody's hoping it's Ben

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01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 3: Sheldon if you're an American, but you know, it may be,

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01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 3: it may be an outlier. Is that Jaffon Sek at

1535
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,520
Speaker 3: the arros On clay and he's not ready on other surfaces,

1536
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 3: But the Brazilian teenager, it's the ball huge. I mean,

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01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 3: he's still got work to do. And but that's that's

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01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 3: what we're doing. We're grasping. You're projecting, because I don't

1539
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 3: think it's I don't think it's spare Ever Medvedev. I

1540
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 3: don't think it's a guy that's that's well. Medved As

1541
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 3: has succeeded in Zverara, has been really close. But I

1542
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 3: think it's going to be someone from that that younger group,

1543
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 3: you know, is it. Yakav Mensik, you know, is a

1544
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 3: guy like that and most of your non tennis reor.

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01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 2: What did he just say, yeah one Miami, right.

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01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, But he's yeah exactly, and he's got the game

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01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 3: to win on a hard coore. So I hope the

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01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 3: party is joined. I love these two guys at the

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01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 3: top of the men's game. I love they go back

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01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,560
Speaker 3: and forth, they push each other. Alcarez reacts to the

1551
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 3: Womblin loss by different tactics, and now Sinner has to

1552
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 3: react to what Carlos did at the US Open, and

1553
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 3: that's fascinating to see. And I suspect they'll be in

1554
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,560
Speaker 3: Australia pushing each other again. But for the good of

1555
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 3: the game, you can't have a predictable final at every major.

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01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 3: As good as Chrissi and Martina were, as great as

1557
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,240
Speaker 3: they were for wins tennis in that era, you wanted

1558
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 3: others to sort of muscle in and be on the

1559
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 3: biggest stages too. That's that's what that's what the men's

1560
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 3: game frankly needs, is someone else to join the or

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01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 3: multiple guys. Jack Draper, if he can stay healthy, the

1562
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 3: big lefty server, you know, that would be great. But

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01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 3: those guys have set such a high bar. I think

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01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 3: there are any in the heads of their competitors who

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01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 3: are freaking out that they have to do is kind

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01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,080
Speaker 3: of stay with those guys, So it's a mental game

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01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 3: right now for everybody else.

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01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: I think wonderful. Again. His name is Chris Fowler. You

1569
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 1: can catch him every Saturday calling the biggest games of

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01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 1: the week for ESP and ABC. Chris, we will have

1571
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 1: to bring you on at some point in the very

1572
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: near future. We cannot allow another fourteen year span before

1573
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: we bring you on in Talk Talk shop here.

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01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 3: Let's see it later this season. Love to join.

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01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you again, Chris Fawler. Enjoy the rest of

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01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: the year. We'll talk soon.

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01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:17,839
Speaker 3: Thanks guys.

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01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: All Right, Dan, there you go a little bit of

1579
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 1: a treat. Chris Fowler. We appreciate his time. We will

1580
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: definitely need to bring him back at some point in

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01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 1: the very near future.

1582
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean no brainer, Absolutely, Chris Fowler.

1583
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 1: Great to have him on. Great to get his thoughts.

1584
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: The best I came up with, by the way, is

1585
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 2: Skip Hicks and Chill old UCLA running back.

1586
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 1: You've been thinking about this the whole time we've been

1587
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: on the entire dollar. Yes, well that does it look big.

1588
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,640
Speaker 1: Thanks to Chris for stopping on by giving us so

1589
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,600
Speaker 1: much of his time. He's a busy gentleman. We appreciate

1590
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: the verballer hood bearing with us here. A little bit

1591
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,640
Speaker 1: of a longer episode than usual, but we had a

1592
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: lot to get through. Frankly, too much to get through.

1593
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: We still couldn't get through all of it. Seven figures

1594
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 1: to be one of our favorites. Yet. Please do stop

1595
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:08,679
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1596
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,840
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1597
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1598
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:15,800
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1599
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: on the action and play for that five hundred dollars

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01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: gift card via our run the board challenge. Dan great show,

1601
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 1: had a.

1602
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 2: Great show, by the way, couple addendums here. Okay, just

1603
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 2: I'm peeking through curtains here. This is not even like

1604
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,759
Speaker 2: under the radar. This, I'm just being like the sicko

1605
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: peeking through curtains. Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech just

1606
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 2: needs to take care of business here? Are they the

1607
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 2: kind of program that can against Virginia Tech? This, unfortunately

1608
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 2: was going to be our what's it called game? This

1609
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,839
Speaker 2: was going to be our brentertainment matchup.

1610
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: This is supposed to be the entertainment.

1611
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we lost with the end of the the Brent

1612
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: Key era. I mean it still could be era.

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01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Yeah, it's just going to be one sided

1614
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: in favor of Brent Key.

1615
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 2: Yes, this is on one signed b entertainment. Then also

1616
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: UCF Cincinnati. Oh, Cincinnati's is just really fun and UCF

1617
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 2: might be pretty good. We'll see. Didn't love the lost

1618
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: to Kansas State. ODU very quiet, sh reial good this year?

1619
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 2: Oh do you played well against Indiana and have won

1620
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,719
Speaker 2: everything since. Take care of business against the down Marshall team.

1621
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 2: I think they should. Navy's been quietly very good this year. Offensively,

1622
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 2: they get a Temple team who just upset UTSA in Philly.

1623
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 2: Temple's got some juice. Iowa Wisconsin feels like the first

1624
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: year in a long time where this is like is

1625
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 2: completely irrelevant, but iways got a chance here to build.

1626
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: I guess New Mexico Boise State. You mentioned the look

1627
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 2: ahead spot for UNLV with Boise State. New Mexico beat UCLA.

1628
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 2: Jason Eck coming back to the State of Idaho. I

1629
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,759
Speaker 2: think it's too many points. I like the lobos. Okay.

1630
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 2: Also drop that big stanky, creamy smothering drum and fighting.

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01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: Did you say creamy, by the way, I did say creamy. Oh,

1632
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: let's go to Lawrence A. Weens Stadium in New York,

1633
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: New York.

1634
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 2: Is that real?

1635
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? I wrote it down.

1636
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,320
Speaker 2: Okay. So you put down fake stuff on our document

1637
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 2: all the time.

1638
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: Well that's to try and throw you off, not throw

1639
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: me off, I know.

1640
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 2: But like you put down in just as like you

1641
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 2: put down QBC, Bravo, as Network's Air and games.

1642
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: I see you, Cartoon Network, I throw in there. Yeah.

1643
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Spice channel, by the way, the what channel? The

1644
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 2: Spice channel? You've put that in a few times.

1645
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 1: I have put Spice channel in there. Is that still

1646
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: a thing?

1647
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 2: I have no clue.

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01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 1: Twelve o'clock, Hi noon, Lehigh six and Ohero on the

1649
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 1: road at Columbia one and two. Oh give me him,

1650
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: Mountainhawk's Baby.

1651
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 2: Uptown, New York City. I'm going to engineers as well.

1652
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:50,759
Speaker 2: They're rolling through.

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01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 1: Twelve thirty Fisher Stadium, Eastern Pennsylvania, Beautiful Eastern Pennsylvania, Bucknell,

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01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: the Bison four and two, Lafayette, the let four and

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01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: two gotta go, Yetti's right, I'm one.

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01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 2: Hundred percent going yeties putting down a couple pieces on him, sure,

1657
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 2: And last, but not least units units Do people put

1658
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 2: down units?

1659
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: Units? Yeah?

1660
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: Units? Excuse me, I don't know what I'm talking about.

1661
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:17,959
Speaker 1: And last but not least one PM Andy Kerr Stadium

1662
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: in beautiful Hamilton, New York. You ever been to Hamilton,

1663
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:20,679
Speaker 1: New York.

1664
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:24,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's idyllic this time of year, beautiful, the foliage,

1665
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, precious sweater weather.

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01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: Richmond, three and three on the road at Colgate two

1667
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: and three. Dan, spiders, spiders crawling all over, Give me

1668
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: them spiders. All right? That does it. Now for the show.

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01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 1: For Puss dot Com, go and join run the board.

1670
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,560
Speaker 1: Please make sure that you hit follow, that you hit subscribe,

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Speaker 1: leave a star rating, that you leave a review. All

1673
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:56,599
Speaker 1: of that stuff helps the show grow. You can, of course,

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Speaker 1: catch us across all of our social channels as well. Dan.

1675
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: Of course, all right, my voice is rickety. I didn't

1676
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 1: hear you cough or sneeze or anything throughout the course

1677
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 1: of this episode, so I'm assuming that means you're in

1678
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: better health than you've been.

1679
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of snorts, I would say we're in,

1680
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: but no coughs, No, I was okay.

1681
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: We are growing as a show.

1682
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been sick the entirety of the season, but

1683
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 2: we're growing.

1684
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: We're growing for that guy over there, my good friend

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01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: Dan Rubenstein, form myself, Tie Hilton Brand. Enjoy week seven.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch you all on Saturday night. Stay suck Peace,