WEBVTT - We Have Become Wild Beasts

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>and Getty. And now, here's Armstrong and Getty. How y'all doing?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to the big AI conference they had at

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<v Speaker 1>the White House yesterday a little bit later, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>still trying to nail down. Was that a 9-11 style

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<v Speaker 1>attempted Islamist hijacking of a plane over there in the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East? Or was it a suicidal pilot who stabbed

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<v Speaker 1>his co-pilot? If you don't know that story, stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dramatic.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point, it's walking like a duck and quacking

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<v Speaker 2>like a duck. Well, Nick, we're holding off on identifying

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<v Speaker 2>the bird for now.

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<v Speaker 1>Netanyahu just gave a speech and he held back on

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<v Speaker 1>calling it a hijacking, at least so far. Well, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Never mind. We'll talk about it later. So whenever the

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<v Speaker 1>story broke of the college gang rape rat thing, was

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<v Speaker 1>it over the weekend? Anyway, when I first saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, I'm not in the mood for

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<v Speaker 1>one of these stories. So I just took in the

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<v Speaker 1>few headlines that reached my ears before I could switch

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<v Speaker 1>to something else from major newscasts that presented it as

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a clear cut case of gang rape of

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<v Speaker 1>an unconscious girl. And these guys are monsters. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>then Joe brought us actual details from the story yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>that made it look much more nuanced than that description,

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<v Speaker 1>to say the least. And I was surprised to see,

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<v Speaker 1>last night as I flipped on the evening newscast, they're

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<v Speaker 1>still presenting it as clear-cut case of gang-raping college monsters

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<v Speaker 1>that the college did not prosecute back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>What a horror, which... As you pointed out yesterday, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why this didn't occur to me immediately. Since

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<v Speaker 1>when do modern colleges really give the benefit of the

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<v Speaker 1>doubt to male aggressive sexual behavior? When has that been

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<v Speaker 1>the case?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's err to the side of letting the kids be

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<v Speaker 2>kids and have lots of sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Letting men be men. Boys being boys.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll err to the side of, well, they say they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do it. Here's a little sampling of the news coverage, Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>46, please.

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<v Speaker 3>New questions about how Cornell University handled what a former

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<v Speaker 3>student now alleges was a gang rape involving seven fraternity brothers.

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<v Speaker 3>New York Governor Kathy Hochul, a member of Cornell's board,

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<v Speaker 3>is calling for an independent investigation, saying the case raises

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<v Speaker 3>serious questions about Cornell's campus culture. In an explosive lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 3>that former student included these vile Snapchat messages from the

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<v Speaker 3>fraternity brothers during the alleged assault. Free expletive, like you

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<v Speaker 3>can walk in and whip it out. The case sparking

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<v Speaker 3>outrage on social media and on campus.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, this has become a really useful study in

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<v Speaker 2>people making use of lurid headlines to advance their own

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<v Speaker 2>particular cause, needs, political careers, etc. Which is pretty rough

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<v Speaker 2>for those college kids if they're not guilty of a

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<v Speaker 2>horrifying crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the countersuits begin.

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<v Speaker 2>They should hire the best lawyers in America and begin

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<v Speaker 2>countersuing their asses off. So you've got Kathy Hochul making

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<v Speaker 2>populist noises about independent investigations. Whether the school fulfilled its

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<v Speaker 2>duty to protect students, Hochul wants the Board of Trustees

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<v Speaker 2>to appoint outside attorneys to scrutinize the university's response. The

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<v Speaker 2>mayor of Ithaca, New York, where Cornell is, called for

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<v Speaker 2>a moratorium on student event permits due to the school's

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<v Speaker 2>appalling response to the allegations. We'll get to why that's

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<v Speaker 2>idiotic in a minute. Of course, AOC weighed in denouncing

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<v Speaker 2>the school's culture of rape.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, how many interviews have I seen with college kids,

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<v Speaker 1>including I was listening to NPR this morning, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>just soundbite after soundbite of college girls saying, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel safe, and I never have, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>a culture around here of allowing rape and all this

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<v Speaker 1>different sorts of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>The student body president said, we want to know what

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<v Speaker 2>happened in this case and what went wrong. So what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening here is.

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's so useful.

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<v Speaker 2>People who are not letting a crisis or a headline

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<v Speaker 2>go to waste are framing this as, are you against

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<v Speaker 2>gang rape or are you for it? Skipping over the

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<v Speaker 2>question of whether one occurred. As we were discussing yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>back in 2024, the young woman involved, the alleged victim,

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<v Speaker 2>Jane Doe, went to the cops because rumors were flying

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<v Speaker 2>around the campus at Cornell about what had happened and

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<v Speaker 2>her participation in it. And she issued a six-page statement

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<v Speaker 2>which made clear that though the activities were lurid and

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<v Speaker 2>unhealthy and immoral and drug-fueled and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Not good for your psyche for anyone. Oh, just a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible idea in short. that she was not unwilling as

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<v Speaker 2>a participant and was not incoherent. And in fact, when

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<v Speaker 2>she decided she's really wasted and tired and I want

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<v Speaker 2>to go home, everybody said, okay, see ya, and she

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<v Speaker 2>went home. Now, why she has now changed her story

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<v Speaker 2>completely and has filed this suit is in the eye

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<v Speaker 2>of the beholder.

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<v Speaker 1>I will let y'all, you know, guess? Is it regret?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it greed? Did she hold back on the first

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<v Speaker 1>police report to cover up for her rapists? I doubt it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's possible. But here is, of all people, the obnoxious, progressive,

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<v Speaker 1>me too, Sonny Hostin of The View discussing this case

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<v Speaker 1>in 43 on Michael. We'll play them one at a time.

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<v Speaker 4>I actually have the statement that Jane Doe wrote at

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<v Speaker 4>that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give it to us in a sentence. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of time. It's several pages long.

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<v Speaker 4>I know. It's nine pages long. And I will say

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<v Speaker 4>that under current New York state law, voluntary intoxication or

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<v Speaker 4>drug use, and she voluntarily drank a lot. She voluntarily

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<v Speaker 4>snorted ketamine off of one of the boys' body parts.

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<v Speaker 4>Even though she was highly intoxicated when she arrived at

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<v Speaker 4>the frat house. She was highly intoxicated but had made

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<v Speaker 4>plans to meet one of the young men. She allowed

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<v Speaker 4>other boys and consented to other boys' snorting ketamine off

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<v Speaker 4>of her body. And under New York law, voluntary intoxication

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<v Speaker 4>or drug use that merely impairs judgment does not legally

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<v Speaker 4>constitute an inability to consent to sexual activity, right? So

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<v Speaker 4>that means if you voluntarily ingest drugs, you voluntarily take alcohol,

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<v Speaker 4>you can agree to have threesomes, which in her statement,

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<v Speaker 4>she agreed to have two Separate threesomes Wow one boy

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<v Speaker 4>did walk in one young man did walk in and

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<v Speaker 4>say everybody out so there was one person that did

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<v Speaker 4>that and According to her statement three of the young

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<v Speaker 4>men did not touch her.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh And three of the seven who are now being named, shamed,

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<v Speaker 2>and fired from their jobs never touched her.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never watched The View, and most clips I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>over the years have been awful. I didn't realize Sonny

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<v Speaker 1>Huston was a former prosecutor of these kind of cases.

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<v Speaker 1>It was what she did for a living, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why she stepped in with this. factual information that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>was available to everyone, by the way. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't have sought this out if you were doing

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<v Speaker 1>a big network piece for this story, but they had

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<v Speaker 1>no interest in this information.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she is obnoxious, and I can't stand her, but

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<v Speaker 2>that was her specialty, sex offenses. Let's skip to 4D5, Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but she was intoxicated.

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<v Speaker 4>Under New York law, again, under New York law, voluntary intoxication.

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<v Speaker 4>If you voluntarily drink 10 beers and you voluntarily ingest ketamine,

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<v Speaker 4>but that intoxication... That doesn't have anything to do with

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<v Speaker 4>the fact that the guys attacked her, whether she's drunk

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<v Speaker 4>or not. According to her statement, she says she... They

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<v Speaker 4>did not attack her. Her statement in 2024, she consented

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<v Speaker 4>to the sexual activity. She consented to it according to

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<v Speaker 4>her own statement in 2024. Now, I prosecuted sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Crimes for 10 years.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe women.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not saying that we shouldn't believe her.

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<v Speaker 4>But in 2024, she said one thing, and now in 2026,

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<v Speaker 4>she is saying another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. One she-wolf. Who's that other woman, everybody? Joy Behar. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's hard to tell. Evil. She's an evil blot upon

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<v Speaker 1>the face of mankind.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, nobody attacked anybody. Go ahead, sir. I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to say of Joy Behar, stop looking both ways when

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<v Speaker 1>you step off a curb. Would you do that for me?

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that, yes. What was I going to say?

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<v Speaker 2>She was desperate to say attacked her, even though that's

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<v Speaker 2>clearly not true. Oh, in her world, though, and look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the first person to tell you there's a difference

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<v Speaker 2>between men and women. And as I sent my girls

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<v Speaker 2>off to college, I had different concerns than when I

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<v Speaker 2>sent my son off to college.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the first person to admit that.

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<v Speaker 2>On the other hand, what the evil, malignant witch Joy

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<v Speaker 2>Behar is asking for is a situation where a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of college kids all get wasted together and decide to

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<v Speaker 2>have sex, and the men are guilty of terrible felonies,

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<v Speaker 2>and the woman is the victim, even though she invited

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<v Speaker 2>the sexual congress.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's an unworkable way to structure society oh no

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<v Speaker 1>it's horrible new york and and look as a dad

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<v Speaker 1>of the girls am i like not really unhappy with

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<v Speaker 1>the fellas yeah of course i am but And I

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<v Speaker 1>cut short my list of all the people piling on

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make their political or sociological points based on

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<v Speaker 1>the assumption that there was a rape here. That is

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<v Speaker 1>not only an open question in the way that everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is innocent until proven guilty. But in this case, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous question mark over that very question. So slow

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<v Speaker 1>the F down. Certainly not if you take in most

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream news. They make it pretty clear what they're insinuating

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<v Speaker 1>is happening. And then they immediately go to interviews with

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<v Speaker 1>college girls saying, yeah, it's always been like that around

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<v Speaker 1>here and that sort of stuff. Play 47 for us, Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's a monstrosity.

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel just so unsafe around campus, especially knowing

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<v Speaker 3>that these people are walking among us.

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<v Speaker 4>Pretty much the entire campus was in a lot of shock.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, first of all, they're not walking among you. They

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<v Speaker 2>graduated quite some time ago. Number two, they're not rapists.

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<v Speaker 2>They're guys who like to get high and engage in orgies, apparently, briefly.

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<v Speaker 2>Just the narrative has taken hold of the story, and

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<v Speaker 2>the poor facts are crying, what about us?

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<v Speaker 1>What about us? Modern media. And these seven dudes, their

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<v Speaker 1>names are out? Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone once already lost his job. He had a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good job with Wells Fargo.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 2>Wells Fargo, hey, dudes, you're going to be on the

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<v Speaker 2>receiving end of a very, very expensive lawsuit. Hey, I

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<v Speaker 2>got wasted and had sex in college, too. Now, is

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<v Speaker 2>iHeart going to, in all of the great companies we

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<v Speaker 2>work with across the country, are they all going to

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<v Speaker 2>fire me now?

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<v Speaker 1>Never anything within an inch of non-consensual.

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<v Speaker 5>Never.

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<v Speaker 1>I find that activity abhorrent. And look, these guys, they

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<v Speaker 1>might have exactly the same attitude as I do. To

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<v Speaker 1>hurt a woman or do something with her she didn't want,

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<v Speaker 1>it thickens me. Not only could I not sexually perform,

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<v Speaker 1>I would weep over my lost soul, okay? And I

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<v Speaker 1>got high and had sex! I was on the non-consensual

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<v Speaker 1>end one time. Good Lord. And I didn't have the

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<v Speaker 1>moral courage to stop it. An aggressive woman, huh? Quite. She-devil,

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<v Speaker 1>a succubus, if you will. So here's a word from

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<v Speaker 1>NordVPN. Connect and protect. Who were the college kids that

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<v Speaker 1>were on the steps of the Capitol and they were

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<v Speaker 1>portrayed as evil monsters by CNN and everyone else? Remember

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<v Speaker 1>a punchable face that that crowd. Right. Or the poor

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<v Speaker 1>Duke lacrosse guys. Well, I was thinking about this particular

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<v Speaker 1>story because they ended up suing CNN and another other

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<v Speaker 1>companies and getting tons of money. So if I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>big media outlet, be careful how you portray these stories.

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<v Speaker 1>You could end up really regretting it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because all those media outlets, they know about that 2024

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<v Speaker 2>police report as they're portraying this.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Right. More on the way. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to weight loss drugs, Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker says

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<v Speaker 1>he's lost 80 pounds, reaching his lifelong, lifelong goal of

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<v Speaker 1>seeing his penis. Oh, my God. Wow. Just a little

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<v Speaker 1>cleverness would be nice. Even a little. That's a mean-spirited

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<v Speaker 1>fat joke, I'll tell you that. The guy's pro-mutilating children

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<v Speaker 1>in the name of radical gender theory. Why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>stick with that? I don't know. Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt the guy? I assume you do. You don't like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he's pro-mutilating children. If you want to

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<v Speaker 1>make a really mean joke to hurt the guy's feelings,

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<v Speaker 1>joke that he's too fat to see his own penis. No. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do that. I want to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>the issues. Childish sledgehammers. This is idiotic. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this at the beginning of the football season. Way more

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<v Speaker 1>games overseas this year. Going to be one every single week.

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<v Speaker 1>And they've got it scheduled to increase over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's a bit of a squeeze in

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<v Speaker 1>the golden goose until it dies situation because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anybody who's a fan of their team in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States who likes it when their team is over

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<v Speaker 1>in London or Rio or whatever and you got the

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<v Speaker 1>time change and somebody loses home field advantage and just all...

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<v Speaker 1>If I got a team that's playoff bound, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want this interruption, but the NFL thinks that they can

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<v Speaker 1>make this a global sport and make a ton of money.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's interesting that the Colts-Commanders game in London

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<v Speaker 1>this Sunday, tickets are incredibly slow and they're having to

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<v Speaker 1>cut the prices way down to try to not have

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<v Speaker 1>an embarrassingly small crowd there for the game and have

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that's not a good look for the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States or the NFL in Europe or anywhere. No, no.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not surprising to me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no. Neither team has like a super high profile

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. and you'd have to have that to

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<v Speaker 2>get people interested in, A, going to.

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<v Speaker 1>See, what's this NFL thing all about? What's all this then?

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<v Speaker 2>But they've had quite a few games in London already,

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<v Speaker 2>and or the fans of the team think, you know, honey,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a good excuse to go to London. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>go to the game and then see the, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Big Ben or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No. Well, we'll see how it goes. But at

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<v Speaker 1>some point, don't people have to be into the sport?

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<v Speaker 1>Are there any high schools in Europe where they have

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<v Speaker 1>football teams? Is that a common thing? Like, every high

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<v Speaker 1>school in America has a football team?

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<v Speaker 2>Do kids grow up playing that or having any knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>of it at all whatsoever? Very small handful. It's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be small. Mostly connected to American military bases.

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<v Speaker 1>And I realize that. American schools. I suppose they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to grow it slowly over the years, but. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Squeeze the golden goose. That's what everybody does. You take

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<v Speaker 1>the golden goose and you just keep squeezing it, wringing

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<v Speaker 1>it out. I think there's more gold in there. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the goose is going, ah, ah, quit. Barbaric.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of venture capitalists. That's precisely what

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<v Speaker 2>they do over and over again. Then they go hunting

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<v Speaker 2>for a new golden goose when the first one dies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. First one's on the table. Doctor trying to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it back to life. That's when the venture capitalist gets out.

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<v Speaker 1>What is going on with that hijacking in Israel? We

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<v Speaker 1>need to check in on that story. Armstrong and Getty. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Watching some dramatic footage on my phone. Explain that in

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<v Speaker 1>just a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Jack has Trump derangement syndrome, he won't admit the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest story of the day is probably that the Straits of.

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<v Speaker 1>Hormuz are open. Or is, am, be open.

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<v Speaker 2>We're practically to pre-war levels of oil shipments going through

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<v Speaker 2>the Strait. And the part that's not there is the

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<v Speaker 2>Iranian stuff that we're blocking off. So the squeeze them

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<v Speaker 2>hard strategy is really working. So stay with us. Details

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<v Speaker 2>to come if Jack let us do this with his hatred.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just watching some of the videos that

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<v Speaker 1>have come out of that flight that was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>land in a commercial flight that was supposed to land

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<v Speaker 1>in Tel Aviv, Israel. Pilot killed the co-pilot? And what

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<v Speaker 1>was he up to? Not exactly sure yet. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's vice versa, or have they changed now to the

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<v Speaker 1>pilot was the baddie? Whichever. Somebody flying a plane killed

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else who was supposed to be flying the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. Well, let's get Ian Pannell's report here from ABC,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I can fill in some of the videos

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<v Speaker 1>I was just watching. Holy crap.

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<v Speaker 5>As the plane was about an hour from landing, it

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<v Speaker 5>then suddenly suffered a rapid descent, plunging from 34,000 feet

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<v Speaker 5>to 16,000 in three minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>This was over Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 5>Passengers on board telling Israeli media the plane lost control

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<v Speaker 5>after some kind of struggle between the pilots. Some have

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<v Speaker 5>said one of the pilots was stabbed with a knife

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<v Speaker 5>and that there was a lot of blood. They say

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<v Speaker 5>fellow passengers disarmed the attacker and it was able to land.

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<v Speaker 1>One pilot stabbed the other pilot. There's lots of blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Were the doors open? Do they not have the locked

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<v Speaker 1>all the time doors like we have in the United States?

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about that very question because somehow the

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<v Speaker 2>cockpit door was opened by somebody because passengers helped to

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<v Speaker 2>subdue the terrorist, the attacker.

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<v Speaker 1>Let Ian finish, and then I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>these videos I've been watching during the commercial break.

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<v Speaker 5>Eyewitnesses are saying one of the pilots was stabbed with

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<v Speaker 5>a knife and that there was a lot of blood

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<v Speaker 5>on board. They say fellow passengers disarmed the attacker. An

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<v Speaker 5>Israeli passenger telling Channel 12 News in Israel, there were

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<v Speaker 5>moments when we were sure this was the end. We

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<v Speaker 5>heard screams and screams, and then we saw that the

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<v Speaker 5>cockpit was being opened and there was blood there. An

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<v Speaker 5>Israeli source telling ABC News it is now being treated

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<v Speaker 5>as a terror incident, and as you would expect, Prime

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<v Speaker 5>Minister Netanyahu is being kept updated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but is it a terror, a jihadist terror incident?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what they mean by terror incident? So my

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<v Speaker 1>question was... So Joe brought us the information that this

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<v Speaker 1>is a man of the Muslim faith?

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<v Speaker 2>He's an Omani national. It's virtually certain, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Who did the stabbing? Correct. which means it could be

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<v Speaker 1>a 9-11 style. This guy was going to crash the

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<v Speaker 1>plane into a tall building in Tel Aviv or something,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows what. Or there have been a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>cases in recent years where you just have a really

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<v Speaker 1>depressed slash crazy suicidal pilot who decides to end his

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<v Speaker 1>life by taking a plane into the ground. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>is it that, so would you, but calling it terrorism,

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean it's not that the depressed? Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, that would be fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, although I was about to interject as you were

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<v Speaker 2>asking me for a fact, it's not like I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>the ground in Riyadh doing original reporting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on the ground in Riyadh. Jack, the scene here

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<v Speaker 1>is chaotic at best. No, I'm just reading reports, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>that we're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the infamous first 24 hours after a

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<v Speaker 2>crazy incident. On the other hand, as I said earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>it's walking like a duck and cracking like a duck.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you watching more videos? I wish I hadn't clicked

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<v Speaker 1>on that one. So there's a bunch of videos out.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one I watched... I don't think I would

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<v Speaker 1>do this. So this is a woman sitting in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the plane, and the plane is clearly at

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<v Speaker 1>a very steep angle going down. You can see some

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<v Speaker 1>passengers are crying. I assume at this point they've already

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<v Speaker 1>heard the screams because there were screams from the cockpit,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, when the stabbing happened. So obviously the plane

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<v Speaker 1>is pointing down. The stabbing has already happened. And you

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<v Speaker 1>decide you're going to get out your phone?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that would cross my mind. I realize

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not of the generation where the first thing you

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<v Speaker 1>do always is get your phone out. But these are

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<v Speaker 1>my last seconds on Earth. I'm going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>video of it. What?

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<v Speaker 4>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>To show whom your phone will be atomized. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>would think I would text and or call loved ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if I'm going to survive it. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>how I'm spending the most crucial am I going to

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<v Speaker 1>make it here moments of my life. Right. That just

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a weird thing to do anyway. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>some good shots of this. So that's pretty dramatic. And

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<v Speaker 1>you've got you've got people that are staying in their

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<v Speaker 1>seats and are just crying. You've got some people just

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<v Speaker 1>like looking around like, what should I do? A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of dudes are in the room. What do you call it?

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<v Speaker 1>The aisle. The aisle. There you go. Couldn't come up

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<v Speaker 1>with that word. The alley. In the aisle and trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out what to do at this point. Then

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<v Speaker 1>I saw another video where guys are running toward the front.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I just clicked on this video, which I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't watched all of yet. But it's up close of

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<v Speaker 1>the bleeding pilot. It's just a stabbed guy with his

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<v Speaker 1>shirt open and blood all over the place. Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's lots of videos coming out of this flight. Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the world we live in. Somebody brought this up

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<v Speaker 1>on the 25th anniversary of 9-11. Think how different that

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<v Speaker 1>event would be now because of cell phones. All of

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<v Speaker 1>those people that jumped out of the building, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>would have been posting things on their Instagram or videos

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever for their kids. And maybe, you know, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>The people inside the plane, it would be rough. But

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<v Speaker 1>this one's kind of rough. Yeah, I would say. Or

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<v Speaker 1>better or worse.

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<v Speaker 2>I will be highly interested to know what the facts

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<v Speaker 2>are here. But it's, I mean, given the current unrest

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<v Speaker 2>and the battle of radical Islam against all of the West,

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<v Speaker 2>including Israel, yeah, it wouldn't be surprising at all that

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<v Speaker 2>a plane full of Jews would be the target of

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<v Speaker 2>a Muslim fanatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I lack imagination, but this person appears to be, like,

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<v Speaker 1>tending to the doctor with one hand... Tending to the doctor?

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if it's a doctor. Somebody who is

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<v Speaker 1>a doctor. And so my mind got confused. Tending to

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<v Speaker 1>the stabbed pilot. And I'm wondering if this is a doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>But clearly tending to the stabbed, bleeding, still alive pilot

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<v Speaker 1>with one hand while holding their phone and recording it

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<v Speaker 1>with the other.

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<v Speaker 4>Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've been overtaken by a, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>get video of this, whether it's our kids' first steps,

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<v Speaker 1>which I've done and regretted, or helping out on a

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist incident, or there's a horrifying, somebody's being beaten to

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<v Speaker 1>death at a bar. Rather than fight, help, or call

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<v Speaker 1>911 or something, I've got to get my phone out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've got to try to deal with this with

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<v Speaker 1>one hand while I get the video. That's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, unless the guy was not a

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<v Speaker 2>doctor and he was getting medical advice from one on

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<v Speaker 2>the phone, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. Yeah, I don't think that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on there. It's weird. We've become very weird beasts.

0:26:07.670 --> 0:26:12.770
<v Speaker 1>I'd say, yeah. But I would imagine at some point

0:26:12.790 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>we're going to have Dubai passengers cower and scream as

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>plane plunges in suspected jihadist terrorist attacks. So at least

0:26:21.760 --> 0:26:24.180
<v Speaker 1>the New York Post is calling it a suspected jihadist

0:26:24.220 --> 0:26:27.220
<v Speaker 1>terrorist attack. Of course, it could be suspected by... Radio host,

0:26:27.260 --> 0:26:29.060
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have to be suspected, but officially.

0:26:29.100 --> 0:26:32.710
<v Speaker 2>You got Nomani trying to crash an airplane full of Jews.

0:26:32.950 --> 0:26:33.949
<v Speaker 1>I mean, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>I sit ready to be corrected, if indeed the evidence

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<v Speaker 2>shows it's not what it appears to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Quack, quack, quack. Of course, the critical information would be,

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 1>is this guy tied to Iran, or in any way,

0:26:49.940 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>or is he just an angry... Muslim.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if he's an Islamist, then he is tied to Iran.

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<v Speaker 2>It's part of the same movement, you know, whether formally

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<v Speaker 2>or informally. Thank you very much. Here's another excellent point.

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<v Speaker 2>Your car is spying on you. Not necessarily, but it

0:27:03.910 --> 0:27:07.190
<v Speaker 2>might be. Here's a true story. Guy's insurance jumps over 20%.

0:27:07.190 --> 0:27:09.649
<v Speaker 2>He's got no accident, no tickets. So he wants to

0:27:09.690 --> 0:27:12.389
<v Speaker 2>figure out who reported him, what was going on. It

0:27:12.410 --> 0:27:16.140
<v Speaker 2>was his own car. Every hard break, every fast merge,

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:19.619
<v Speaker 2>every late night taco run, his automaker logged it all,

0:27:19.980 --> 0:27:22.300
<v Speaker 2>sold it to a data broker. The broker sold it

0:27:22.340 --> 0:27:23.979
<v Speaker 2>to his insurance company.

0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:28.790
<v Speaker 1>Wow. General Motors paying $ 12. 75 million to the state of

0:27:28.810 --> 0:27:32.330
<v Speaker 1>California over this sort of thing. information from your car.

0:27:32.690 --> 0:27:35.430
<v Speaker 1>The lesson is data brokers aren't only selling your address anymore.

0:27:35.450 --> 0:27:37.770
<v Speaker 1>They're selling your habits to anyone and it's cheap and

0:27:37.810 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>it's floating around there. And that's why we're using Cogni

0:27:40.060 --> 0:27:42.939
<v Speaker 1>to get that information off of these data brokers. It's

0:27:42.980 --> 0:27:45.640
<v Speaker 1>the online service that forces data brokers and people search

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:48.619
<v Speaker 1>sites to delete your information. And Cogni has scrubbed us

0:27:48.660 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 1>from hundreds of sites so far. And then they keep

0:27:50.900 --> 0:27:52.990
<v Speaker 1>going back to make sure you stay scrubbed. Go to

0:27:53.030 --> 0:27:58.090
<v Speaker 1>incogni.com slash Armstrong for 60% off. That's I-N-C-O-G-N-I dot com

0:27:58.109 --> 0:28:01.210
<v Speaker 1>slash Armstrong and Cogni dot com slash Armstrong. Your car

0:28:01.230 --> 0:28:01.910
<v Speaker 1>should take.

0:28:01.710 --> 0:28:04.820
<v Speaker 2>You places, not take you for a ride.

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:06.580
<v Speaker 1>Well, speaking of your car spying on you, did I

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:10.740
<v Speaker 1>tell this story? I meant to. So now that Grok

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:14.139
<v Speaker 1>is integrated into the Tesla. So the other day I

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.190
<v Speaker 1>decided it was going to be pizza night at home.

0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 1>And I said, hey, Grok. She said, yeah. What can

0:28:19.900 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I do for you? I said, what's the name of

0:28:21.460 --> 0:28:25.060
<v Speaker 1>that pizza place on Lake Boulevard? She said the name.

0:28:25.100 --> 0:28:26.439
<v Speaker 1>I said, yeah, can you dial them up so I

0:28:26.460 --> 0:28:28.240
<v Speaker 1>can order a pizza and drive me there? She said, sure.

0:28:28.580 --> 0:28:30.740
<v Speaker 1>Phone rings. They answer the phone, and my car is

0:28:30.820 --> 0:28:34.649
<v Speaker 1>driving me to the pizza place. What the hell kind of,

0:28:35.180 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>what is that? It's amazing. It is amazing and very handy,

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 1>and I really like that tech. But that's a lot

0:28:43.100 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 1>of information that is in your vehicle that can be

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>spread around.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, man.

0:28:47.210 --> 0:28:47.570
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:28:47.590 --> 0:28:50.070
<v Speaker 2>I was so hypnotized by the idea of a good

0:28:50.130 --> 0:28:56.990
<v Speaker 2>pizza that the liberty, the surveillance aspects of the story

0:28:57.030 --> 0:28:57.510
<v Speaker 2>eluded me.

0:28:58.510 --> 0:29:01.250
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sitting there like with my hands folded or

0:29:01.270 --> 0:29:03.510
<v Speaker 1>in my lap or whatever this whole conversation. What's that

0:29:03.550 --> 0:29:05.670
<v Speaker 1>pizza place? Can you dial that up and drive me

0:29:05.710 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 1>to the pizza place? All of that gets taken care of.

0:29:09.130 --> 0:29:12.540
<v Speaker 2>If there could only be one topping on pizza for

0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the rest of your life, what is the indispensable topping?

0:29:15.860 --> 0:29:19.300
<v Speaker 1>Italian sausage. Mmm, Michael? Pepperoni.

0:29:19.860 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>For the longest time I was a pepperoni guy. I

0:29:21.820 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 2>think I may be on team sausage now. But it's

0:29:25.060 --> 0:29:28.810
<v Speaker 2>definitely one of the you-should-never-probably-eat-it-ever meats.

0:29:29.670 --> 0:29:32.990
<v Speaker 1>It's gotta have it. Why shouldn't you eat sausage? It's

0:29:33.010 --> 0:29:35.590
<v Speaker 1>not good for you. What are you, a monk? What

0:29:35.630 --> 0:29:38.130
<v Speaker 1>is life for? What is the point of being alive?

0:29:39.250 --> 0:29:45.740
<v Speaker 1>Long health. life. Lean muscle mass, etc. Give me the

0:29:45.780 --> 0:29:48.700
<v Speaker 1>sausage pizza, please. Onions, too, on mine. My number one

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.100
<v Speaker 1>go-to pizza, and I came to it fairly late in life,

0:29:51.180 --> 0:29:54.630
<v Speaker 1>is Hawaiian pizza. That's my number one go-to. Yeah, yeah.

0:29:54.910 --> 0:29:59.430
<v Speaker 1>It's an enjoyable za. To me, it's your alternate pizza.

0:29:59.470 --> 0:30:03.250
<v Speaker 2>It's like barbecue chicken pizza, which I also love. No

0:30:03.310 --> 0:30:06.010
<v Speaker 2>more than one out of three pizzas should be your

0:30:06.190 --> 0:30:09.780
<v Speaker 2>alternate pizza, your non-red sauce pizza to me.

0:30:09.860 --> 0:30:10.970
<v Speaker 1>That's the right ratio.

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<v Speaker 2>Somewhere between 20% to 30%.

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<v Speaker 1>My problem is that in a modern world, I'm disappointed

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:20.900
<v Speaker 1>by my pizza more often than I'm excited. It's almost

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:22.719
<v Speaker 1>never as good as I want it to be. And

0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it is about the modern world.

0:30:26.380 --> 0:30:29.180
<v Speaker 1>You don't have a go-to one or two? I live

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:31.830
<v Speaker 1>in a college town that doesn't really have good pizza

0:30:32.090 --> 0:30:34.850
<v Speaker 1>because they're all young Asian girls. We have lots of

0:30:35.390 --> 0:30:41.620
<v Speaker 1>bad Thai. I thought this was America. I know. But

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>even places people recommend to me, I just don't. I

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:48.060
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I have invented a standard that can't

0:30:48.100 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>be bet. No, that wasn't true when we were at

0:30:49.820 --> 0:30:53.230
<v Speaker 1>the convention in Chicago. My standards were met, and I

0:30:53.250 --> 0:30:55.010
<v Speaker 1>was very pleased with those pizzas.

0:30:55.210 --> 0:30:57.550
<v Speaker 2>So I was just going to ask whether your COVID thing,

0:30:57.590 --> 0:31:00.010
<v Speaker 2>if you're hard of tasting now, but clearly no.

0:31:01.690 --> 0:31:04.330
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah. Holy cow, did I eat a lot of

0:31:04.370 --> 0:31:07.010
<v Speaker 1>pizza in Chicago when we were there? I know. I

0:31:07.050 --> 0:31:11.770
<v Speaker 1>think I gained five pounds. So good. Five pounds of democracy.

0:31:14.110 --> 0:31:16.870
<v Speaker 2>You know, if you don't like Chicago-style pizza, the thick stuff,

0:31:17.190 --> 0:31:18.350
<v Speaker 2>that's fine. We can still be friends.

0:31:18.370 --> 0:31:21.710
<v Speaker 1>No, I can't. I won't be friends with you. Actually,

0:31:21.870 --> 0:31:24.420
<v Speaker 1>one of my friends who I really, really like, he's

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>from Chicago, and he hates Chicago-style pizza. He's a thin

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>crust guy.

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.860
<v Speaker 2>That's why we ran him out. That's why he's not

0:31:30.900 --> 0:31:32.500
<v Speaker 2>in Chicago anymore. We wouldn't have him.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>So there was an AI summit at the White House

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:37.540
<v Speaker 1>yesterday with.

0:31:39.090 --> 0:31:42.410
<v Speaker 1>All the most important people on planet Earth, pretty much,

0:31:42.530 --> 0:31:45.150
<v Speaker 1>gathered together talking about AI. We can bring you some

0:31:45.170 --> 0:31:48.410
<v Speaker 1>of those highlights in hour three. Also, as I mentioned earlier,

0:31:48.530 --> 0:31:53.650
<v Speaker 1>Iran is squeezing. The blockade is working. Trump, finally, is

0:31:54.010 --> 0:31:55.770
<v Speaker 1>winning this contest.

0:31:56.510 --> 0:31:59.050
<v Speaker 2>All indications are things are heading in a positive direction

0:31:59.090 --> 0:31:59.610
<v Speaker 2>with Iran.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome. Stay tuned.

0:32:02.230 --> 0:32:03.370
<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Getty.

0:32:10.210 --> 0:32:12.380
<v Speaker 1>Andrew Ross Sorkin, who you may or may not know,

0:32:12.500 --> 0:32:16.180
<v Speaker 1>not a Trump fan, if you know his work, gushing

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>over that new AI government website that they announced yesterday

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:22.850
<v Speaker 1>and how great it is and all the different things

0:32:22.930 --> 0:32:24.690
<v Speaker 1>it can do. We'll have to talk about that later.

0:32:24.730 --> 0:32:28.250
<v Speaker 1>Sounds fantastic. What the f * * k type of

0:32:28.430 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>AI s * * t is this? Good stuff. So

0:32:33.300 --> 0:32:33.979
<v Speaker 1>stay with us for that.

0:32:35.100 --> 0:32:38.020
<v Speaker 2>It has become very, very clear in the last several

0:32:38.100 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>days that the squeeze, the United States.

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Military, it's always about Trump. I know. Trump obsessions. Some

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:51.459
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite podcasts, they get sucked into the angle

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:54.489
<v Speaker 1>Trump plays in this. No, no, no, no. Can't you

0:32:54.510 --> 0:32:59.820
<v Speaker 1>discuss this without Trump? Getting into that, people are so

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.620
<v Speaker 1>used to it, they can't stop themselves. They don't even

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:03.180
<v Speaker 1>know they're doing it.

0:33:03.300 --> 0:33:03.540
<v Speaker 4>I know.

0:33:03.560 --> 0:33:08.140
<v Speaker 2>And look, you can't separate the president from the conduct

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>of a military conflict. But the squeeze that we are

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:19.420
<v Speaker 2>putting on Iran, specifically their oil shipment and other interstate,

0:33:20.390 --> 0:33:21.910
<v Speaker 2>international commerce via the.

0:33:21.870 --> 0:33:23.590
<v Speaker 1>Seas is working.

0:33:24.190 --> 0:33:27.330
<v Speaker 2>First of all, the oil shipments through the Straits of

0:33:27.370 --> 0:33:30.530
<v Speaker 2>Hormuz are at roughly 80% of what they were before

0:33:30.850 --> 0:33:36.990
<v Speaker 2>the war. That 20% that's missing is substantially Iran's own shipments,

0:33:37.050 --> 0:33:40.510
<v Speaker 2>which we are choking off. So we have control of

0:33:40.590 --> 0:33:43.490
<v Speaker 2>the strait, or so it would seem. It's not perfect.

0:33:43.550 --> 0:33:46.370
<v Speaker 2>It's not unimpeachable control, but it's control.

0:33:46.450 --> 0:33:48.750
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't understand that. That's a misleading stat that,

0:33:48.810 --> 0:33:50.810
<v Speaker 1>of course, the mainstream media is not making clear to

0:33:50.870 --> 0:33:53.450
<v Speaker 1>you that when it's at 80%, that's as good as

0:33:53.530 --> 0:33:55.820
<v Speaker 1>it can get because the rest of it was Iran's oil,

0:33:56.080 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 1>and we don't want it to get out. It's certainly close, yeah.

0:34:00.420 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Iran used to export about 2 million barrels of oil

0:34:03.040 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 2>per day through the strait.

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:06.820
<v Speaker 1>Today, the number is zero. Good.

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Not to mention all the other commodities that move in

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:13.020
<v Speaker 2>and out of Iran by sea or by air, because

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.100
<v Speaker 2>no airlines are flying in or out now either, thanks

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.650
<v Speaker 2>to our blockade. And as Aaron McLean makes the point

0:34:20.250 --> 0:34:21.470
<v Speaker 2>in the free press.

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>It appears, and who knows.

0:34:26.230 --> 0:34:29.549
<v Speaker 2>We're talking about dead-ender religious fanatics, it appears Iran is

0:34:29.570 --> 0:34:32.380
<v Speaker 2>getting very, very close to the point where they do

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:36.580
<v Speaker 2>have to make a deal or things will crumble internally.

0:34:37.580 --> 0:34:40.049
<v Speaker 1>Treasury Secretary Scott Besson saying the other day, they're down

0:34:40.070 --> 0:34:42.130
<v Speaker 1>to their last two weeks of oil that they got

0:34:42.170 --> 0:34:44.290
<v Speaker 1>out there on boats somewhere. And when that's gone, they've

0:34:44.330 --> 0:34:46.310
<v Speaker 1>got nothing to trade. Nothing.

0:34:46.350 --> 0:34:47.089
<v Speaker 4>Right. Right.

0:34:47.690 --> 0:34:50.890
<v Speaker 2>So more on that topic. Speaking of Scott Besson and

0:34:50.930 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 2>the Treasury Department, he kicks ass, by the way.

0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Trump, Trump gets zero credit for all of the,

0:34:59.140 --> 0:35:02.900
<v Speaker 1>you know, gay people or women or whatever he appoints

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.500
<v Speaker 1>to incredibly high office. And I don't care.

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:08.590
<v Speaker 2>I want Scott Besson to be good at his job.

0:35:08.610 --> 0:35:12.049
<v Speaker 2>I don't care who he finds himself romantically attracted to.

0:35:12.110 --> 0:35:13.010
<v Speaker 1>It's all idiotic.

0:35:13.330 --> 0:35:15.569
<v Speaker 2>But if you're going to fixate on that, how about

0:35:15.610 --> 0:35:18.379
<v Speaker 2>you give a little credit where it's due, you lying hypocrites?

0:35:18.739 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, back to Iran.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 2>It's increasingly difficult for commercial airlines to fly in or

0:35:23.219 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>out of Iran because and few international carriers fly there

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 2>at all. The regime's financial system is also in a vice.

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:33.020
<v Speaker 2>The Iranian rial fell to a record low against the dollar.

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 2>The day before the war began in February, it was

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 2>like 1.7 rial for a dollar.

0:35:39.300 --> 0:35:41.410
<v Speaker 1>Now it's 2.5.

0:35:41.410 --> 0:35:44.649
<v Speaker 2>Radical devotion to a revolutionary cause can take a regime far,

0:35:44.690 --> 0:35:47.930
<v Speaker 2>but even deeply ruthless and motivated ruling cliques need cash

0:35:47.989 --> 0:35:50.830
<v Speaker 2>to pay their gunmen and the bureaucrats, and they are

0:35:51.030 --> 0:35:52.130
<v Speaker 2>rapidly running out of it.

0:35:53.510 --> 0:35:53.760
<v Speaker 4>Cool.

0:35:54.710 --> 0:35:57.790
<v Speaker 1>Of course, we, well, the idea would be that they

0:35:57.830 --> 0:36:01.189
<v Speaker 1>make some sort of deal. But if they collapse, because

0:36:01.210 --> 0:36:05.910
<v Speaker 1>there is talk that protests have started again in various places. Right.

0:36:06.430 --> 0:36:10.549
<v Speaker 2>In spite of watching 40,000 of your countrymen gunned down

0:36:10.590 --> 0:36:12.830
<v Speaker 2>in the streets, you're like, F it, I've had enough.

0:36:12.890 --> 0:36:16.020
<v Speaker 1>I'm going out to the streets. Ooh, that's discontent. You

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>are brave and a patriot. But if the regime collapses,

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:24.730
<v Speaker 1>nobody knows what that would look like. Yeah, yeah.

0:36:27.030 --> 0:36:32.140
<v Speaker 2>One should mention the proxies when one discusses Iran, and

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:35.880
<v Speaker 2>they are hoovers. They suck up cash like crazy for

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:38.560
<v Speaker 2>weapons and paying their gunmen and food and the rest

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:42.310
<v Speaker 2>of it. And what's really interesting is the Gulf states

0:36:42.550 --> 0:36:48.790
<v Speaker 2>increasingly openly, everybody that's not Iran is saying, yeah, you know,

0:36:48.810 --> 0:36:51.969
<v Speaker 2>we'd all be better off, we could all... embrace the

0:36:52.030 --> 0:36:54.830
<v Speaker 2>future and like develop our economies and keep hold of

0:36:54.890 --> 0:36:57.750
<v Speaker 2>our regimes if Iran was out of here. So there

0:36:57.790 --> 0:37:00.850
<v Speaker 2>are more and more noises about cooperating with the U.S.

0:37:00.989 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>And Israel. We've teased like five different interesting things we've

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:06.940
<v Speaker 1>got coming up in the rest of the show, including

0:37:07.020 --> 0:37:11.379
<v Speaker 1>the murder conviction of that former American Idol star who

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:14.060
<v Speaker 1>clearly killed his wife. I mean, I don't know why

0:37:14.100 --> 0:37:16.940
<v Speaker 1>the jury had to deliberate for three hours. Maybe they

0:37:16.980 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get a free lunch out of it or something.

0:37:19.500 --> 0:37:21.950
<v Speaker 1>That was a pretty clear cut case. I've got a

0:37:21.989 --> 0:37:22.850
<v Speaker 1>better one than that.

0:37:22.870 --> 0:37:23.230
<v Speaker 2>Oh, really?

0:37:23.250 --> 0:37:24.149
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you about it, yeah.

0:37:24.170 --> 0:37:24.410
<v Speaker 4>Cool.

0:37:24.670 --> 0:37:26.719
<v Speaker 1>All on the way. If you miss it, get the podcast,

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