1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: It's the show that she is the secrets of success 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: experience firsthand by Marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: will know he's given me advice on many occasions. And 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision make 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: because it's what he likes to do, it's what he 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: likes to share. Now it's time to hear from my man, 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Here we go. 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald. You know our host money Making 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 3: Conversation Masterclass show. The interviews and information this show provides 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 3: offer everyone. Really, it's time to stop reading other people's 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: success stories and start living your own. My guest is 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: Lavell Crawford, just a Els. He's one of my favorite 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: celebrity presenters. At the Neighborhood Awards, we discussed building his 17 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 3: stand up comedy and acting career. It really is about 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: believing in yourself. Because I first met this young man 19 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: on the Jamie FOXX way back in nineteen ninety eight 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: and three. Lavel returned for his fourth Showtime comedy special, 21 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 3: call d Love Al and Especial. He talks about there 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: was tape to enjoy theatre in New Orleans, dove in 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: the issues of getting older, which I can relate to 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 3: with the shame and all this sarcasm. Lavell is a 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: wonderful comedian. Obviously seen him in acting. You know Breaking Bad. 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 3: I remember we've talked about Breaking Bad. I said, how 27 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: you got that role? We're gonna talk about that. They 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: need to spin off better Call Sault. The album version 29 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: of his twenty twenty one comedy special was nominated for 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: a Grammy Award for Best Comedy Album at the six 31 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: or fourth Annual Grammy Awards. Please welcome with the money 32 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: making conversation, master class. I'm call my friend Lavell Crawford. 33 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 3: How you doing, Levell. 34 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm gladed brother. I'm out here trying to make it 35 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: happen for you. 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: See, just a little backstir. We started in this basement. 37 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 3: We did it with his phone. Now we're doing comedy 38 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: from his truck. So we got some We started something new. Lavell, 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: How you doing, brother? 40 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: How you doing? Man? 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: Man? I'm I'm blessed man, I'm happy and I'm doing 42 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: everything I supposed to be doing. I'm on my two 43 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 4: feet living life the way you're spposed to still on 44 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: the road doing my thing. 45 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 3: You know the interesting thing about it, when I look 46 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: at my life and my relationship. You know, we're young, 47 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 3: we don't think about longevity. But then as we get 48 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: older and I look back and go, wow, I've been 49 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: in this game for a long time and I can 50 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: appreciate longevity. What are your thoughts when you look back 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: a little bit? Because you know, me and you met 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety eight, Jamie Fox, who were young, and 53 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: I can remember some of those conversations that I've been here. 54 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: I brought you on Steve Harvey's big time, and we 55 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: kept in touch and just along the way, just seeing 56 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: each other in the streets at the comedy clubs or 57 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: any opportunity I could give a young comed like your shot. 58 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: The longevity part. What's that conversation? What runs to your mind? 59 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: Well, I, first of all, you know, I thank the 60 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: love above it. 61 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 4: I always appreciate you, as Steve Man, for giving me 62 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 4: some opportunities because like I mean you, I mean you guys. 63 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: You know, when we think about the comedy game, and 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: everything about it. 65 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: You know, y'all put me on the hoodies Ward Steve. 66 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 4: Big Tie every time y'all had something, y'all, y'all let 67 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 4: me come on and shine, man, and you know, and 68 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: some of it was unbridled, but it was a lot 69 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: of fun and it and it got to the people. 70 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: Thank God for YouTube, because when y'all let those. 71 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: Things fly, man, people fell in love with me, you know. 72 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: And like the one where you had me and mister 73 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: uh but David into it, you know, and y'all just 74 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 4: let that fly. 75 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: People went crazy because they was like, man, what is this? 76 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 4: And I mean, that's all people talk about sometimes, man, 77 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: you and uh. 78 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, you know they call them mister Browns. 79 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: And I was like yeah, and people thought they thought 80 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 4: that that was just luck we made up. I said, naw, 81 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 4: now that that was some real deal, a real deal. 82 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: But I look at all of that, man, just like 83 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: I think somebody said it best being that I just 84 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: stay stay consistent. Anybody give me an opportunity, I go 85 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: and take it and ride off of it. 86 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: And I appreciate every door to open for me. 87 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 4: And I thank you for people yike you and Steve 88 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 4: and many other people that I've worked with. You know, 89 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 4: they gave me those opportunities because I don't get him 90 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: handed to me. I come from the mid bro. You know, 91 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 4: it's almost it's a trial and error every day for me, 92 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. 93 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: So you know the beauty, soul, beauty of lavel is 94 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: that you know. You know, I look at my life. 95 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 3: You know this is money made conversations, master class talking. 96 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: He's an entrepreneur. An entrepreneur means that you count on yourself. 97 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: You know, you got to put in the hours in 98 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: and for the hour week, in a five hour work week, 99 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: you know, it's time that you have to discipline yourself. 100 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: And I remember when I look back and every time 101 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: I called him, he delivered every time I asked him. 102 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: And he was never afraid. 103 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: That his said chards that do good, you know, because 104 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 3: he wanted to make sure he got the next phone call. 105 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: He wanted to make sure that you. 106 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 3: Know, he didn't if he messed up, tell me so 107 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: I can fix it. That was important to you, right 108 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: level all the time, all the time. 109 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't just go on it just like 110 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 4: you know, like, oh well they gonna come, they need me. 111 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: I never had that idea and I was trying to be. 112 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: I wasn't a perfection, but I always wanted to make 113 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 4: it look as perfect as possible, right right, right, right. 114 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: Right, because because those moments I remember when we were 115 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: going through the process and having these conversations, and when 116 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: you got the big break on Last Comic Standing, right, 117 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: and then you and then when I would watching you, 118 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 3: we would talk. You had to come up with material 119 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 3: like the material like the material welcomes through that whole 120 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: process of trusting yourself and using new material that you 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: didn't do but turned out to be beneficial to you 122 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: becoming a champion. 123 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: Well, the crazy thing about Last Common Standing was, you know, 124 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: they put me in at the wrong time because I 125 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 4: was polished. I was ready for all that I had. 126 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: So I had so much weaponry and anything they asked 127 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: me to do, I said, let's go, let's do it. 128 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: I had material out of day. 129 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 4: Some of those comedians, it was weird that, you know, 130 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: they like a young, upstart kind of comic who been 131 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 4: in it for four years. Man, by the time I 132 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 4: was old there, I was been in it by eleven years. 133 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: I think Ralph Harris was older than me. 134 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 4: Yes, but yeah, yeah, so Raphie, I had watched raph 135 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 4: before I even made it, so he was probably more 136 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 4: veter than me. 137 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: But by the time I get in there, I said, whoo, 138 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: they ain't ready. He goes, I'm coming with it. 139 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: And and the thing about I tell any comedy in 140 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: this man, I always tell him. I said, Man, every 141 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: opportunity in front of the camera back in the day 142 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: was your advantage, right, you know, you get to get 143 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: that put that put that material out there because you 144 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 4: got forty two to fifty two million internationally people watching 145 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 4: you all over the world, and they watch you all 146 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: the United States. I said, every time I go up, man, 147 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be funny. I seen some comedians like, ohn't 148 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: know what I'm gonna do. I said, we move out 149 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: my way, and I know exactly what. 150 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna do. 151 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: I like, I said, you crazy, These are the opportunity 152 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 4: to come alive. You know, some people make it like 153 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: just being likable and they just get in. 154 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: I was, you know, I was always a big guy, 155 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: so I. 156 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 4: Was intimidating on one side, and then on the other side, 157 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: you know, I was, you know, a strong comic, So 158 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: that was intimidating to a lot of comedians because they 159 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: ain't gonna let me. 160 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: They ain't gonna let me eat at the table all 161 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 1: the time. 162 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: Oh, we don't need him blowing me out with you know, 163 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 4: I'm one of them guys to say, Man, I like 164 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: to be around other killers. I'm sorry, I don't like 165 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 4: to be around people that are scared of the killer. 166 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: I want to be around another killer that then you 167 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: can try me right, you know. 168 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: Because the interesting thing about when I look at my 169 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: relationship with it's my trust, you know, because when and 170 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back to the Neighborhood Awards where I 171 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: really thought that, you know, it was a blessing because 172 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: it was something that Steve and I did it for 173 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: the community and we honored people for it was Ward's 174 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: best church, best barbecue, and every award every year. I 175 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: would give him the food Award every year, and then 176 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: I would give him as Richard, don't give you a 177 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: food Ward, Well, I march. 178 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: Him right out there with call he farrall. She wouldn't 179 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: say nothing. She knew her role. She knew her role, which. 180 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: Is announced the way you walk out there. And I 181 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 3: think when the cracker barrel war, if anybody see that 182 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 3: video YouTube, is a cracker barrel when we were there 183 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: was possor boy, that is by far the most and 184 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: it was all in prov because nothing he was saying 185 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: was on that screen. Her walking through that whole process 186 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: of just seeing because the average attendance we had was 187 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 3: like nineteen thousand people. And brother, you held everybody's attention 188 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: walking through that process. The bell Oh well, I mean 189 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: I think that was the one where Steve. 190 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: Came out to her because she had lost all that weight. 191 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Steve said he could put his 192 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 4: hands around me. 193 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: He couldn't believe it. He was like wow. 194 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: And it was one of those things where you know, 195 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 4: Shirley came up and she had did that thing talking 196 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 4: about the uh she was up for the LeVert movie 197 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 4: or whatever and everything and I and I told Sjarl, 198 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: I said, congratulations. I wonder who won won depart because 199 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: I was up for it too, but I just didn't 200 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: have enough chest here. I had to sing it down. 201 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 4: I had to ask you down. But I have enough 202 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 4: chance there. And if I anybody I know who got 203 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 4: some chests here is Sharyl. And Cheryl was a good 204 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 4: sport because that's my sister man, and she know I 205 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: was gonna play with it no matter what. Every year 206 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 4: she'll say so crazy. You know, I'm gonna run up 207 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 4: and touch it right. It never be over offensive, you know. 208 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: And I just ask. 209 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: I said, Sharyl got more hair on her chest than 210 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: her back to me and Steve's ever seen. Back in eighty. 211 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 3: Five were talking about Cheryl Underworld, now the host or 212 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: co host of the talk CBS Talk. 213 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: She was another phenomenal. 214 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: It was cyl and it was level running neck and 215 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: neck who was destroyed and the hoodies every year every year. 216 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Kim will even do a great job. Man. 217 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: It was a it was a it was a fun time. 218 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 4: And I said, man, I mean, what other venue do 219 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 4: you have where you got two almost twenty times of 220 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: your own. 221 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: People watching you and you get up just let him fly? 222 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 4: And I said some stuff because at the time y'all 223 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: cut the cliffs to make it move, move along, right, 224 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: But when y'all let that play, and then they wanted 225 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: to play me off, and I was like, no, no, 226 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 4: you ain't gonna do me. 227 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,479 Speaker 1: Boys of Dog and and couldn't. It wasn't in the shape. 228 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: Hey they had. You had Grandpa Pigeon talking about everything 229 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 4: and church I was I went in boy I said, 230 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: you won't play that music. 231 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: On me, and I went into yeah that was. 232 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: That was so brilliant, man, that was so brilliant because 233 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: it was two things. I remember that video did like 234 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: because I emailed it to you. It was like three 235 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: million views the next day of you doing that moment 236 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 3: of cracker Barrel and when you did that with David Mann. 237 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: That was, I have to say, was instrumental in you 238 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: being branded as a top comedy act in the black community. 239 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: Correct. 240 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean it was one of those lounching 241 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 4: pads I'm telling like I tell people, I think me 242 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 4: and a comedian. 243 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: Had a conversation. 244 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 4: They were talking, man, they got your stuff on YouTube 245 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: and they exploiting it and they ain't got your permission. 246 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: And I told them, I said, brother, let me tell 247 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: you something. 248 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: Some of the best rappers who made it big used 249 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: to sell mixtapes. 250 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: And when I look. 251 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: At YouTube, it's like me, I have to go out 252 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 4: on the streets and sell my mixtapes. They being blasted 253 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 4: all over YouTube. People watch YouTube more than they watched television. 254 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 4: And I became a star off of YouTube right and 255 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 4: then Netflix, and then like the Hoodie was when y'all 256 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 4: put my stuff on there and people got to see it. 257 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: It was like, oh my god, where this guy at. 258 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 4: You know, and I tell comedians all the time, you 259 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 4: have to use Rudy Ray Morris is the best thing ever. 260 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: You got to. 261 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: Use what you got, use what you got, and every 262 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: opportunity every door. Instagram made a lot of these comedian 263 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 4: stars doing their little skits. 264 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: But I was doing straight up stand up right right right, 265 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: you know. 266 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: Now, then if we moved through the whole stand up 267 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: because like I won't ever try to understand because in 268 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: this business, we always hope for one big moment to 269 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 3: just send us to the top. 270 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: But it's steps. 271 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 3: Like being the part of the Shaquille Nails Comedy Special 272 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: was instrumental too, correct. 273 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 4: Sure, I mean you know the crazy thing about that was, 274 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 4: you know the Shack All Star. 275 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, when I finally met Shack and I want 276 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: to be on it. 277 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: They had a couple of them come before I got 278 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 4: to do it, and then I think it was the 279 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: same time. It was a prolific It was a night 280 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: that Michael Jackson had dad and everything. It was a 281 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 4: crazy weekend. But when we got out there and like 282 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 4: that was one of those times where I had some 283 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: comedians talking about I don't know what I'm gonna talk about. 284 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm gonna talk I said it 285 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 4: was you better move out away because I'm about to 286 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: explode this sucker. 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More information is available at HBCU College day 301 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 6: dot com. 302 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: You can upload a photo. 303 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 4: The photo can be recent or from when you attended 304 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 4: your HBCU. 305 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: More information is available at HBCU college day dot com. 306 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass, hosted by 307 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 5: Rashaan McDonald. 308 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it got everybody in there. 309 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 4: You got my man, Cliff Pole, you got celebrities, you 310 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 4: got NBA stars, and you ain't coming up there talking 311 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 4: about nothing. Man, I'm about to show you what this 312 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: is gonna do. And seeing the crazy thing about it. 313 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: I went up second. Meli Kamacho went up first. I 314 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 4: went up second. But when I blew that suck go 315 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 4: off the off the hinges, they clipped mine and move 316 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: my clip always. 317 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: Like I ended the show. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah you 318 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: know yeah yeah, I didn't even end the show. 319 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: They they looked at them like, man, ain't no way 320 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 4: we could put him up at the beginning. 321 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: People wouldn't watch it. 322 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: So when I did that, man, it was it was 323 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: a it was an epic moment for me because it 324 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 4: just broke the seal again. And you know, my people 325 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 4: saw me and everybody saw me. I mean, because see, 326 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: we always think that we do these big shows and 327 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: black people were just gonna watch it. It's worldwide because 328 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 4: let me tell you something. Every nationality be watching us. 329 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: They just begot to be on our fourth fourth man 330 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 4: a for room. Don't mean that everybody ain't gonna check 331 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: it out because everything I've done, I think, you know, 332 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: because the little venues I've done and open doors in 333 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: every spot because they said, well he's funny over there 334 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 4: and with us. 335 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: So hey man, because because I mean, last Comic Standing 336 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: was for NBC. So that was just white television. Look, 337 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 3: don't listen late with what it is. That's white television. 338 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: You did the Neighborhood it was that was one hundred 339 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 3: percent black, you know what I'm saying, one hundred So 340 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: you controlled that medium. And then when you went over 341 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: to the Shack, you know, Shack brings Hispanics, he brings you, 342 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 3: he brings sports, he brings black, he brings all the whites. 343 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: So that really allowed. 344 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 3: You because you already was well known because of Last 345 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 3: Comic Standard, it really merged the whole process. Now when 346 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: you did you've done four showtime comedy specials. Now your 347 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: first one I. 348 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: Did, I did, I did, I did, ah, I did 349 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: a five five together altogether you did what Now I 350 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 4: did five I did I did the first one was 351 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 4: cann brother gets some love, right. I did a Home 352 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: for the Holiday, I did Comedy Vaccine, I did New Look, 353 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: Same Funny, and then I did these of Veil Group. 354 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 4: That was the final, the last one I did, Yeah, 355 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: so I had okay one I did it. 356 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: The first one was yeah, I'll just let you know. 357 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: Okay, cool because because you know, I'm getting all my 358 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: press release wrong. It's at four, so it's five. You've 359 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: done with show time? 360 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: No no, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well well congratulations, but about 361 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 4: it because right, so let's talk about you because you're 362 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 4: out there, you're out there touring Lavell, you're out there headlining. 363 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: I was out there, and boy, selling tickets or people 364 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: coming to see you is always a special feeling, you know, 365 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: seeing the words sold out. Where did you realize that, hey, 366 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 4: you know, could we just hustled that you can make 367 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: a living out this, that people you have a brand 368 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: that people will paying money to see consistently, which additional 369 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: puts more pressure on you. 370 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 3: Talk about that, that that turning that corner. 371 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 4: Well, honestly, my man, you know, I think the biggest 372 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 4: moment that I thought I could sell tickets was when 373 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: I was out there, I with my first one of 374 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 4: my managers, Phil Bonna, and we had got booked at 375 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 4: the Stardom Comedy Club in Alabama and. 376 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: H Birmingham, Alabama. Bruce air Yead Birmingham, Alabama there. 377 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: At the Bruce Airs Room, and Bruce Hairs gave me 378 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: that and he said he could if I sell out, 379 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 4: I get bonuses, so we would go. 380 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: We did the first night Thursday night. 381 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 4: I was in my dress, shoes and my little suits 382 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 4: after the show, going to every night club, passing our 383 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 4: flies every night club, let people know because if they 384 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 4: see my face, they were like, oh man, we know him. 385 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: But but you know, it wasn't a notoriety there. But 386 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 4: I went out there, and I went out there and 387 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: hustled it, and next thing you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday 388 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 4: was sold out and. 389 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: I was got my biggest payday ever. 390 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 4: It was Ninadays I look at it like it's nothing 391 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: like what it is now, But back then, I was 392 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: so proud of myself that I couldn't believe it. 393 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: Were really great. 394 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 3: Because when you headline the Shack All Stars, I just 395 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: thought you headlined the show. I didn't know you were 396 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 3: second slaughtered the stage. As we said, that's every comic dream. 397 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 3: That's every comic rule. Okay, I'm gonna make it hard 398 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 3: for you to follow me. 399 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: That just competition. 400 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: You ain't try to be evil, but if you gonna 401 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: follow me, let's make it difficult, right, That's right. 402 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, now, I don't care. 403 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 4: I've been I've had this moment several times lately too, 404 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 4: because I'll be on these tours and the comedians, you know, I. 405 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: Mean, hey, if they they high, you know. 406 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 4: And but in a minute, like I tell him, I said, 407 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 4: you know, I had comedians calling the promoter and Thelle 408 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 4: just he's doing. They always say I'm doing too much time? 409 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 4: And I say, now, now, I said, you give me 410 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 4: twenty minute. I'm gonna make it a hot toy, right, 411 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 4: you give me eight I'm gonna make a hot end. 412 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: Right, give me the full time. I'm gonna bring it. 413 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: I mean, but a lot of comedians get to a 414 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: point where they. 415 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 4: Get a headline status and they get comfortable and they 416 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: think they could go on cruise control. And this game 417 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 4: ain't no such thing as cruise control. I believe you 418 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: stay sharp and you ain't got to never get ready, 419 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Absolutely, And I go. I 420 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 4: go up there and I go to guns and blazers. 421 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 4: I only got one speed was shot. And I tell 422 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: people that all the time. I said, if you're coming 423 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 4: behind me, I'm just gonna let you know, just bring 424 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 4: bring your best. 425 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: Don't come up there trying to think you can jump 426 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: on my ride my wave. You know, because I'm coming. 427 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 3: Because as a comic, we know the blessing is somebody's 428 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 3: giving your stage and that's an audience in front of it. 429 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: That's the number one blessing. The other blessing is your 430 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: name is on the banner and people coming pacifically to 431 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 3: see you. Now, you had a run, you did your 432 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: first comedy special. What did you do and how did 433 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: you react when you really got that first opportunity in 434 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: the comedy room to sell tickets? 435 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: I think I think, like I said Birmingham, Alabama, when 436 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 4: I started selling, I was able to get out there 437 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: and pump and do my own promotions and I sold 438 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 4: the place. I got my first bonus and people came 439 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 4: to see me. Because that's just solidified. Because what I do, 440 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 4: and I know a lot of comedians do is is 441 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 4: uh they don't. 442 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see it. 443 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 4: But I see that I'm teaching some of my young 444 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 4: count After the show, I had a meet and Greek, 445 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: right and I and I still do that nowadays. You know, 446 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 4: I may sell the picture, you know, photo with me 447 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 4: for about ten bucks, but you know it's still a 448 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 4: meeting Greek. You know, it's still and that's how you 449 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: sell tickets. And I try to explained to my wife 450 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 4: and everybody else. I said, man, it ain't out there 451 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 4: trying to look. 452 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 3: And then now the acting opportunities, the draw which I 453 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: didn't see coming your way when you came into played 454 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: a bodyguard in one of the all time great series, 455 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 3: Breaking Bad. Tell us how that occurred in your career. 456 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: Man, you know, I just moved my wife and kids. 457 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: We had just got married. 458 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: I moved out my wife and gives me from my 459 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 4: youngest was born, moved them to California, and I was 460 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 4: on the road, come out rode tired as hell. I 461 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 4: got an audition and it said and I was trying 462 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: to reschedule audition. He said, man, you gotta go do 463 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 4: this now. And I you know how you do audition. 464 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 4: I'd have done like billions of them. I was like, man, 465 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 4: I'm tired of getting these like no call backs, nothing 466 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 4: like that. And I went in and I went out 467 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 4: for one thing and read one line for the second thing, 468 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 4: and the guy said, can you start Wednesday? 469 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: And next thing you. 470 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 4: Know, there I was you know, Breaking Bad, one of 471 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: the hottest TV shows in America. 472 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: So so you went in not expecting to get it. 473 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: You gave a one hundred percent. The second line he give 474 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: you a job. 475 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I read for two two roads, and. 476 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 4: The second one they had one line, we're clothes, We're closed. 477 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 4: That was it, and the dude was like you the man, 478 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: and they loved it. And it was you know how 479 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 4: I used to say that all the time. How there 480 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 4: was those Hollywood stories like Elvis Presley and I was 481 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 4: like he was at a gas stage, he was just singing, 482 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 4: and Colonel town Parker said you need to be a star, 483 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: and that's that's I was always wanted that to happen. 484 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: And I just went in. 485 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 4: I I was thinking I was gonna it was like 486 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: three people, and then people said read this one line. 487 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: I said, we're clothes and the dude said, can. 488 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 4: You start Wednesday? I said, and I thought it was 489 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 4: a joke. Next you know, I got a plane ticket 490 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 4: I'm going to Albuquerque. 491 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: I'm up there with. 492 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 4: Gen Ga, Carlo Spazito, Brian Craston, and Paul uh Uh 493 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 4: Bob Odenkirk, and I'm sitting up here, got my own 494 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 4: uh On camper, sitting up there in my own trailer. 495 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 4: I'm playing the role all the time, and I wasn't 496 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: doing nothing fake acted like I was sleepy. 497 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: Then I like some small roles of talking. 498 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 4: And then why the winner the sag Award won a 499 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 4: sag Award and everything. 500 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: Congratulations, congratulations, congratulations. Let me ask you this, man, because 501 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 3: it's so funny. 502 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 503 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: When you went in for the audition, did you know 504 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: anything about the series? 505 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: Nothing? 506 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 4: I heard about it, but I didn't know nothing about it. 507 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 4: I honestly, god, I didn't know nothing about this show. 508 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 4: You know, like all black people. 509 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: When you when you when you look at that, so 510 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: you know, I gotta askwer this question. Five comedy specials, 511 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 3: shit call? Have you been approached? Are you developing a 512 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: sitcom or some type of calm a dramedy for the 513 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 3: next step because of the fact that you're so amazingly funny. 514 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Well, I wrote, I wrote it. 515 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 4: I wrote a couple of them called like a daddy 516 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 4: step because I'm a stepfather as well as real father, 517 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 4: you know, And I want to talk about how how kids, 518 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: you know, don't never call black kids don't never call 519 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 4: you daddy. 520 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: Even though they daddy wasn't no good. 521 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 4: You always be in their life. Boy, everything they daddy 522 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: was shoes. They still calling you by your first name. 523 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: Thank you, mister. Level them. You know, I do. 524 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 4: All day and I gotta asks the father around and I. 525 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: Look at the kid, Can I can I step in? Yeah? 526 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 4: Mr gram you you made the bills. I'm like, what 527 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 4: but but but yeah, I wrote that, Scot I wrote that, 528 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: writing on that. 529 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: But I I've had we had me and uh, what's 530 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: his name? 531 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 4: Ralphie made past you know, got resch Is sol Me 532 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 4: and Raphiel was up for a couple of sitcoms together, 533 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 4: playing brothers, you know, and uh, but it never never 534 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 4: panned out. Now they got this writer strike now, so 535 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: it's like I've got blessed Adam Sander. Adam Sander put 536 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 4: me in so many, you know, some of his films. 537 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 4: I was so blessed to be a part of his stuff. 538 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 4: I couldn't believe it. 539 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: And that's thanks for YouTube, you know, Adam Sander saw 540 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: me on YouTube. 541 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: He put me in Ridiculous six and then I was 542 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 4: in Huet Halloween and also did Home Team. 543 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: It just opened doors for everything, yep, exactly. 544 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 3: You know the beauty of watching you now. You know, 545 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: we talked about it when Steve Harvey came out and 546 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 3: put his arms around you, and it was a big 547 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: deal about the weight loss and things like that, talk 548 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 3: about that decision making process and we're you're at right 549 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: now emotionally and mentally about your weight. 550 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 4: Oh man, you know, you know, you know way wait, 551 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 4: you know, being overweight, man is always you know, you 552 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 4: know you're a health guy. I mean you do your 553 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 4: bacon and everything, but you know, you go out, you know, 554 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: try to stay healthy and then you know healthy healthy, 555 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: healthy healthy as well. 556 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: But you know, it's like I was. I was comfortable 557 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: with the skin i end, but when. 558 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 4: I had my son and and everything and that, then 559 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 4: I was just looking at some of the things that 560 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 4: I was going through, some of the health issue. I said, Man, 561 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: I think I'm squadding and this blessing that God that 562 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: gave me, you know what I'm saying, because if I 563 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 4: died from a heart attack, for me too too, much 564 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 4: gravy on my chicken. I think I'll be I think 565 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get to heaven, and guy ain't gonna let 566 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 4: me in. 567 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: You could have left that chicken wing sit there. You 568 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: didn't have to eat that, you know. 569 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 4: And then I started feeling, you know, and I you know, 570 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 4: I played sports. I boxed, I play football, I do 571 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: even when I was overweight. 572 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: I did jiu jitsu. 573 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 4: I wrestled and went out the way to state and wrestling, 574 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: and I did a lot of sports. But you know, 575 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 4: once you'allt here, you doing comedy, and I didn't get 576 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 4: real big until I started making money. When I started 577 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 4: making money, was there to go to Ruth Chris. That's 578 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 4: when I started getting all that butter on the state. 579 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, absolutely, Hey man, they bread 580 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 3: and Ruth Chris. 581 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: That's what I get. 582 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 3: The best brother, that's the best. 583 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: Man. You know. I want to thank you everything gotch 584 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: mm hmm. 585 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: You know the thing about it, because you know, as 586 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 3: we end the show, food and travel, going to bed 587 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: late night. You know that comedy you in it said 588 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 3: at ten you're gonna eat you in it said that 589 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 3: one you go. 590 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: Eat, then you wake up. You eat and that's how 591 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: the weight gain happened. 592 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 3: You know, sometimes our profession won't allow us to be normal, 593 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: and then it just next thing. You know, you're twenty 594 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: pounds a week, you're thirty pounds away, you're forty pounds overweight, and. 595 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: So you know, don't look at us bad lifestyle. 596 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 3: And then you're watching my videos on YouTube and you realize, 597 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: Rashan make me sick. 598 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: He ain't gave you no doing weight. And look at 599 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: it he baking every day an day with them deserts. 600 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: I get that all. I get that all the time. 601 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: I get that all the gut you still got new 602 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: flash suits. I'd be like, man, does he eat it? 603 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: Love it? Leavell man. 604 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: I want to thank I know there's been one hell 605 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 3: of a tape that we went through, but I want 606 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 3: to thank you, brother for taking the time. 607 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: And now I know you're in Houston. 608 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: We're gonna connect, man, and go down to my favorite 609 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 3: Mexican play Loopy Tortillas down in Houston, Texas, and then 610 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 3: kick it for a while. 611 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate you, brother. 612 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 4: This is a day, this, this is the thing says you, 613 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 4: you so called know how to fish. 614 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna get out of that wat you have you? 615 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, cause I talked to Ronnie Green yesterday. 616 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: So Ronnie Green, I tell you what we will you 617 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: listen meet and you do an episode of Ronnie Green together. 618 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: How about that? Let's do it? 619 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm let's do it. I'm gonna call Ronnie Green today. 620 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 3: It's just go forward and you and I gonna do 621 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: one together. 622 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: Cool? All right? I love you, man. 623 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: Thank you for coming to my show, Money Made Conversation 624 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: Master Class. 625 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: Appreciate your brother, Love you bag, take care of man. 626 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. 627 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 5: Let me tell you about the host of Money Making Conversations, 628 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 5: Rushan McDonald. 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