1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: It's the show that she is the secrets of success 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: experience firsthand by Marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: will know he's given me advice on many occasions. And 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 2: in case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 2: he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision make 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: because it's what he likes to do, it's what he 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: likes to share. Now it's time to hear from my man, 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Here we go. 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald. 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: You know our host money Making Conversation Masterclass show. The 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 4: interviews and information this show provides off for everyone. Really, 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 4: it's time to stop reading other people's success stories and 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 4: start living your own. My guest is Lavell Crawford, just 16 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 4: a Els. He's one of my favorite celebrity presenters. At 17 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: the Neighborhood Awards, we discussed building his stand up comedy 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 4: and acting career. It really is about believing in yourself. 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 4: Because I first met this young man on the Jamie 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 4: FOXX way back in nineteen ninety eight and three. Lavell 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 4: returned for his fourth Showtime comedy special, Call. 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: D Love Al and Especial. 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 4: He talks about there was tape to enjoy theater in 24 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 4: New Orleans, dove in the issues of getting older, which 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 4: I can relate to with the shame and all this sarcasm. 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 4: Lavell is a wonderful comedian. Obviously seen him in acting. 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: You know Breaking Bad. I remember we've talked about Breaking Bad. 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 4: I said, how you got that role? We're gonna talk 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: about that. They need to spin off better Call Sault. 30 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 4: The album version of his twenty twenty one comedy special 31 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 4: was nominated for a Grammy Award for Best Comedy Album 32 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: at the six or fourth Annual Grammy Awards. Please welcome 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 4: with the money making Conversation master Class. I'm call my 34 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 4: friend Lavell Crawford. How you doing, Levell? 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm gladed brother. I'm out here trying to make it 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: happen for you. 37 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: See, just a little backstirt. We started in this basement. 38 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: We did it with his phone. Now we're doing comedy 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 4: from his truck. 40 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: So we got some we started something new. Lavell, How 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: you doing, brother? 42 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: How you doing? Man? 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 5: Man? 44 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm I'm blessed man. I'm happy. 45 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 5: I'm doing everything I supposed to be doing. I'm on 46 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 5: my two feet living life the way you're spposed to. 47 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 5: Still on the road doing my thing. 48 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 4: You know the interesting thing about it, when I look 49 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: at my life and my relationship. You know, we're young, 50 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 4: we don't think about longevity. But then as we get 51 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: older and I look back and go, wow, I've been 52 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: in this game for a long time, and I can 53 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: appreciate longevity. 54 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts when you look back a little bit, 55 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: Because you know. 56 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: Me and you met in nineteen ninety eight, Jamie Fox, 57 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 4: who were young, and I can remember some of those 58 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: conversations that I've been here. I brought you on Steve 59 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: Harvey's big time, and we kept in touch and just 60 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: along the way, just seeing each other in the streets 61 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 4: at the comedy clubs or any opportunity I could give 62 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: a young comed like your shot the longevity part. What's 63 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 4: that conversation? What runs to your mind? 64 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: Well, I, first of all, you know, I thank the 65 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: love above it. 66 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 5: I always appreciate you, as Steve Man, for giving me 67 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 5: some opportunities because like I mean you, I mean you guys. 68 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 5: You know, when we think about the comedy game and 69 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 5: everything about it. 70 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: You know, y'all put me on the hoodies Ward Steve. 71 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 5: Big Tie every time y'all had something, y'all, y'all let 72 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 5: me come on and shine man, and you know, and 73 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: some of it was unbridled, but it was a lot 74 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: of fun and it and it got to the people. 75 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: Thank God for YouTube, because when y'all let those. 76 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 5: Things fly, man, people fell in love with me, you know. 77 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 5: And like the one where we had me and mister 78 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 5: uh but David into it, you know, and y'all just 79 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 5: let that fly. 80 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: People went crazy because they was like, man, what is this? 81 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: And I mean that's all people talk about sometimes, man, 82 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 5: you and uh. 83 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, you know they call them mister Browns. 84 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 5: And I was like yeah, And people thought they thought 85 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 5: that that was just luck we made up. I said, naw, 86 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 5: now that that was some real deal, a real deal. 87 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: But I look at all of. 88 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 5: That, man, just like I think somebody said it best 89 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 5: being that I just stay, stay consistent. Anybody give me 90 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 5: an opportunity, I go and take it and ride off 91 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 5: of it. 92 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: And I appreciate every door to open for me. 93 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 5: And I thank you for people, yike you and Steve 94 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 5: and many other people that I've worked with, you know, 95 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 5: they gave me those opportunities. 96 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: Because I don't get him handed to me. I come 97 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: from the mid bro. 98 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 5: You know, it's almost it's a trial and error every 99 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 5: day for me, you know what I mean. 100 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 4: So you know the beauty, soul, beauty of lavel is 101 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 4: that you know, you know, I look at my life. 102 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: You know, this is money made conversation, master class talking. 103 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 4: He's an entrepreneur. An entrepreneur means that you count on yourself. 104 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 4: You know, you got to put in the hours in 105 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 4: and for the hour week, in a five hour work week, 106 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: you know, it's time that you have to discipline yourself. 107 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: And I remember when I look back and every time 108 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: I called him, he delivered every time I asked him. 109 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 3: And he was never afraid that his said. 110 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 4: Ards that do good, you know, because he wanted to 111 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 4: make sure he got the next phone call. 112 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: He wanted to make sure that you know, he didn't 113 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: if he messed up, tell me so I can fix it. 114 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: That was important to you, right level all the time, 115 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: all the time. 116 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't just go on it just like 117 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 5: you know, like, oh well they gonna come, they need me. 118 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 5: I never had that idea, and I was trying to 119 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 5: be I wasn't a perfection, but I always wanted to 120 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 5: make it look as perfect as possible, right right, right, right. 121 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: Right, because because those moments I remember when we were 122 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 4: going through the process and having these conversations, and when 123 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: you got the big break on Last Comic Standing, right, 124 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 4: and then you and then when I would watching you, 125 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 4: we would talk, you had to come up with material 126 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: like the material like the material welcomes through that whole 127 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: process of trusting yourself and using new material that you 128 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 4: didn't do but turned out to be beneficial to you 129 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: becoming a champion. 130 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 5: Well, the crazy thing about Last Common Standing was, you know, 131 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 5: they put me in at the wrong time because I 132 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: was polished. 133 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: I was ready for all that I had. 134 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 5: So I had so much weaponry and anything they asked 135 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 5: me to do, I said, let's go, let's do it. 136 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: I had material out of day. Some of those comedians, 137 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: it was. 138 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 5: Weird that, you know, they like a young, upstart kind 139 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 5: of comic who been in it for four years. 140 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: Man, by the time I was old there, I was 141 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: been in it by eleven years. 142 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 5: I think Ralph Harris was older than me. Yes, but yeah, yeah, 143 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 5: so Raphie. I had watched raph before I even made it, 144 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 5: so he was probably more veter than me. 145 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: But by the time I get in there, I said, whoo, 146 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: they ain't ready. He goes, I'm coming with it. 147 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 5: And and the thing about I tell any comedy in 148 00:06:55,440 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 5: this man, I always tell him. I said, Man, every 149 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 5: opportunity in front of the camera back in the day 150 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 5: was your advantage, right, you know, you get to get 151 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 5: that put that put that material out there because you 152 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 5: got forty two to fifty two million internationally people watching 153 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 5: you all over the world, and they watch you all 154 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 5: the United States. I said, every time I go up, man, 155 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be funny. I seen some comedians like, ohn't 156 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 5: know what I'm gonna do. I said, we move out 157 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 5: my way, and I know exactly what. 158 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna do. 159 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 5: I like, I said, you crazy, These are the opportunity 160 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 5: to come alive. You know, some people make it like 161 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 5: just being likable and they just get in. I was, 162 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 5: you know, I was always a big guy, so I 163 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 5: was intimidating on one side. And then on the other side, 164 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 5: you know, I was, you know, a strong comic, so 165 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 5: that was intimidating to a lot of comedians. 166 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: Because they ain't gonna let me. They ain't gonna let 167 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 1: me eat at the table all the time. 168 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 5: Oh, we don't need him blowing me out with you know, 169 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 5: I'm one of them guys to say, Man, I like 170 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 5: to be around other killers. I'm sorry, I don't like 171 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 5: to be around people that are scared of the killer. 172 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: I want to be around another killer that then you can. 173 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: Try me right, you know. 174 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: Because the interesting thing about when I look at my 175 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: relationship with it's my trust, you know, because when and 176 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go back to the Neighborhood Awards where I 177 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: really thought that, you know, it was a blessing because 178 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: it was something that Steve and I did it for 179 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 4: the community and we honored people for it was Ward's 180 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: best church, best barbecue, and every award. 181 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: Every year. I would give him the food Award. 182 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: Every year, and then I would give him as Richard, 183 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: don't give you a food Ward, Well, I march him 184 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: right out there with call her farrall. She wouldn't say nothing. 185 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 4: She knew her role. She knew her role, which is 186 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: announced the way you walk out there. And I think 187 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: when the cracker barrel war. If anybody see that video 188 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 4: YouTube is a cracker Barrel when we were there was 189 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: possor boy, that is by far the most and it 190 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: was all in prov because nothing he was saying was 191 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 4: on that screen walking through that whole process of just 192 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 4: seeing because the average attendance we had was like nineteen 193 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 4: thousand people, and brother, you held everybody's attention walking through 194 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 4: that process. 195 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: The bell Oh well, I mean I think that was 196 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: the one where Steve came out to her. 197 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: Huse you lost all that weight? 198 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So Steve said he could put his 199 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 5: hands around me. 200 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: He couldn't believe it. He was like wow. 201 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: And it was one of those things where you know, 202 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 5: Shirley came up and she had did that thing talking 203 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 5: about the uh she. 204 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: Was up for the LeVert movie or whatever and everything. 205 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 6: And I. 206 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: Told Jarl, I said, congratulations. 207 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 5: I wonder who won won depart because I was up 208 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 5: for it too, but I just didn't have enough chest. 209 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Had I had to sing it down. I had to 210 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: act you down. But I have enough chance there. And 211 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: if I anybody I know who got some chests here 212 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: is Sharyl. 213 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 5: And Cheryl was a good sport because that's my sister man, 214 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 5: and she know I was gonna play with it. 215 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: No matter what. 216 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 5: Every year she'll say so crazy, you know, I'm gonna 217 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,239 Speaker 5: run up and touch it. 218 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: Right. 219 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 5: It never be over offensive, you know, And I just ask. 220 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 5: I said, Sharyl got more hair on her chest than 221 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 5: her back. 222 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: To me and Steve's ever seen. Back in eighty. 223 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: Five were talking about Cheryl Underworld, now the host, the 224 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 4: co host of the talk CBS Talk. 225 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 3: She was another phenomenal. 226 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: It was cyl and it was level running neck and 227 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 4: neck who was destroyed and the hoodies every year every year. 228 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Kim will even do a great job. Man. 229 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: It was a it was a It was a fun time. 230 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 5: And I said, man, I mean, what other venue do 231 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 5: you have where you got two almost twenty times of 232 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 5: your own. 233 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: People watching you and you get up just let him fly? 234 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 5: And I said some stuff because a lot of time 235 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 5: y'all cut the cliffs to make it move, move along, right, 236 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 5: But when y'all let that play, and then they wanted 237 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: to play me off, and I was like, no, no, 238 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 5: you ain't gonna do me. 239 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,479 Speaker 1: Boys of Dog and and couldn't. It wasn't in the shape. 240 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 7: Hey they had. 241 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 5: You had Grandpa pigeons talking about everything and church I 242 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 5: was I went in, boy, I said you won't play 243 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 5: that music. 244 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: On me, and I. 245 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: Went into yeah, that was That was so brilliant, man, 246 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: that was so brilliant because. 247 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: It was two things. 248 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: I remember that video did, like because I emailed it 249 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: to you. It was like three million views the next 250 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 4: day of you doing that moment of cracker Barrel and 251 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 4: when you did that with David Mann. That was, I 252 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: have to say, was instrumental in you being branded as 253 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 4: a top comedy act in the black community. 254 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 5: Correct, Yeah, yeah, I mean it was one of those 255 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 5: lounching pads I'm telling like I tell people, I think me. 256 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: And a comedian had a conversation. 257 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 5: They were talking, man, they got your stuff on YouTube 258 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 5: and they exploiting it and they ain't got your permission. 259 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: And I told them, I said, brother, let me tell 260 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: you something. 261 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 5: Some of the best rappers who made it big used 262 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 5: to sell mixtapes. 263 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: And when I look. 264 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 5: At YouTube, it's like me, I have to go out 265 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 5: on the streets and sell my mixtapes. They being blasted 266 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 5: all over YouTube. People watch YouTube more than they watched television. 267 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 5: And I became a star off of YouTube right and 268 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 5: then Netflix, and then like the Hoodie was when y'all 269 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 5: put my stuff on there and people got to see it. 270 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: It was like, oh my god, where this guy at. 271 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 5: You know, and I tell comedians all the time, you 272 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 5: have to use Rudy Ray Morris is the best thing ever. 273 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 5: You got to use what you got, use what you got, 274 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 5: and every opportunity every door. Instagram made a lot of 275 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 5: these comedian stars doing their little skits. 276 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: But I was doing straight up. 277 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 3: Stand up right right right, you know. 278 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: Now, then if we moved through the whole stand up 279 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 4: because like I won't ever trby to understand, because in 280 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 4: this business, we always hope for one big moment to 281 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 4: just send us to the top. 282 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 3: But it's steps. 283 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 4: Like being the part of the Shaquille Nails Comedy Special 284 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 4: was instrumental too correct, sure. 285 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 5: I mean you know the crazy thing about that was, 286 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: you know the Shack All Star. 287 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, when I finally met Shack and I want 288 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: to be on it. 289 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 5: They had a couple of them come before I got 290 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 5: to do it, and then I think it was the 291 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 5: same time. It was a prolific It was a night 292 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 5: that Michael Jackson had dad and everything. It was a 293 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 5: crazy weekend. But when we got out there and like 294 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: that was one of those times where I had some 295 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: comedians talking about I don't know what I'm gonna talk about. 296 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 5: I don't know what I'm gonna talk I said it 297 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 5: was you better move out away because I'm about to 298 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 5: explode this sucker. 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More information is 316 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 7: available at HBCU college day dot com. 317 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 6: Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass, hosted by 318 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 6: Rashaan McDonald. 319 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it got everybody in there. 320 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: You got my man, Cliff Pole, you got celebrities, you 321 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 5: got NBA stars, and you ain't coming up there talking 322 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 5: about nothing. Man, I'm about to show you what this 323 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 5: is gonna do. And seeing the crazy thing about it. 324 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 5: I went up second. 325 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: Meli Kamacho went up first, right, I went up second. 326 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: But when I blew that suck go off the off 327 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 5: the hinges, they clipped mine and move my clip always. 328 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: Like I ended the show. 329 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, you know yeah. 330 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even end the show. They they looked 331 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: at them like, man, ain't no way we can put 332 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: him up. At the beginning, people wouldn't watch it. 333 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 5: So when I did that, man, it was it was 334 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 5: a it was an epic moment for me because it 335 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 5: just broke the seal again and you know, my people 336 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: saw me and everybody saw me. 337 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: I mean, because see, we always think that we do. 338 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,359 Speaker 5: These big shows and black people were just gonna watch it. 339 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: It's worldwide because let me tell you something, every nationality. 340 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: Be watching us. They just begot to be on our 341 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: fourth fourth man a for room. Don't mean that everybody. 342 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 5: Ain't gonna check it out because everything I've done, I think, 343 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 5: you know, because the little venues I've done and open 344 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 5: doors in every spot because they said, well he's funny 345 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 5: over there and with us. 346 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 4: So hey man, because because I mean, Last Comic Standing 347 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: was on NBC. So that was just white television. Look, 348 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 4: don't listen late with what it is. That's white television. 349 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 4: You did the neighborhood it was that was one hundred 350 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 4: percent black, you know what I'm saying, one hundred So 351 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 4: you controlled that medium. And then when you went over 352 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: to the Shack, you know, Shack brings Hispanics, he brings you, 353 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 4: he brings sports, he brings black, he brings all the whites. 354 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: So that really allowed you because you already was well 355 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 4: known because of Last Comic Standard, it really merged the 356 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 4: whole process. Now when you did you've done four showtime 357 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 4: comedy specials. Now your first one I. 358 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 5: Did, I did, I did, I did, ah, I did 359 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 5: a five five together altogether you did what no I did, 360 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 5: five I did I did. 361 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: The first one was cann brother gets some love, right. 362 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 5: I did a Home for the Holiday, I did Comedy Vaccine, 363 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 5: I did New Look, Same Funny, and then I did 364 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 5: these of Veil grap That was the final, the last 365 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 5: one I did. Yeah, so I had okay one I 366 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 5: did it. The first one was yeah, I'll just let you. 367 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 4: Know, okay, cool because because you know, I'm getting all 368 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: my press release wrong. 369 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: It's at four, so it's five. You've done with show time? 370 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 4: No no, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well well congratulations, but about 371 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 4: it because right, so let's talk about you because you're 372 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 4: out there, you're at the touring Lavell, you're out there headlining. 373 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: I was out there, and boy, selling tickets or people 374 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 4: coming to see you is always a special feeling, you know, 375 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: seeing the words sold out. Where did you realize that, hey, 376 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 4: you know, could we just hustled that you can make 377 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: a living out this, that people you have a brand 378 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 4: that people will paying money to see consistently, which additional 379 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: puts more pressure on you. 380 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 3: Talk about that, that that turning that corner. 381 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 5: Well, honestly, my man, you know, I think the biggest 382 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 5: moment that I thought I could sell tickets was when 383 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 5: I was out there. I was with my first one 384 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 5: of my managers, Phil Bonna, and we had got booked 385 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 5: at the Stardom Comedy Club in Alabama and. 386 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 3: Uh Birmingham, Alabama. 387 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 5: Bruce air yead Birmingham, Alabama there at the Bruce Airs 388 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 5: Room and Bruce Hairs gave me that and he said 389 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 5: he could if I sell out, I get bonuses, so 390 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 5: we would go. We did the first night Thursday night. 391 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 5: I was in my dress shoes, in my little suits. 392 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 5: After the show, going to every night club, passing our 393 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 5: flies every night club. 394 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: Let people know because if they see. 395 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 5: My face, they were like, oh man, we know him. 396 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 5: But but you know, it wasn't a notoriety then. But 397 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 5: I went out there and I went out there and 398 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 5: hustled it and next thing you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday 399 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 5: was sold out and. 400 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: I was got my biggest payday ever. 401 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 5: It was Ninadays, I look at it like it's nothing 402 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 5: like what it is now. Right back then, I was 403 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 5: so proud of myself that I couldn't believe it. 404 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 4: Were really great because when you headline the Shack All Stars, 405 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 4: I just thought you headlined the show. I didn't know 406 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: you were second slaughtered the stage as we said. That's 407 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 4: every comic dream, that's every comic rule. Okay, I'm gonna 408 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: make it hard for you to follow me. That just competition. 409 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: You ain't try to be evil, but if you gonna 410 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 4: follow me, let's make it difficult, right. 411 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: That's right. I mean, I mean, now, I don't care. 412 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 5: I've been I've had this moment several times lately too, 413 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 5: because I'll be on these tours and the comedians, you know, I. 414 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: Mean, hey, if they they high, you know. 415 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 5: And but in a minute, like I tell him, I said, 416 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 5: you know, I had comedians calling the promoter and Lazelle. 417 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: Just he's doing. 418 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 5: They always say I'm doing too much time, And I say, now, now, 419 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 5: I said, you give me twenty minute. I'm gonna make 420 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 5: it a hot toy, right, you give me eight I'm 421 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 5: gonna make a hot end. Right, give me the full time. 422 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring it. I mean, but a lot of 423 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: comedians get to a point where they. 424 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 5: Get a headline status and they get comfortable and they 425 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 5: think they could go on cruise control. 426 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: And this game ain't no such thing as cruise control. 427 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: I believe you stay sharp and you ain't got to 428 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: never get ready. 429 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, absolutely and I go. I 430 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 5: go up there and I go to guns and blazers. 431 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 5: I only got one speed was shot. And I tell 432 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 5: people that all the time. I said, if you're coming 433 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 5: behind me, I'm just gonna let you know, just bring 434 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 5: bring your best. 435 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: Don't come up there trying to think you can jump 436 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: on my ride my wave. You know, because I'm coming. 437 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 4: Because as a comic, we know the blessing is somebody's 438 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 4: giving your stage and that's an audience in front of it. 439 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 3: That's the number one blessing. The other blessing is. 440 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 4: Your name is on the banner and people coming pacifically 441 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 4: to see you. Now, you had a run, you did 442 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 4: your first comedy special. What did you do and how 443 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 4: did you react when you really got that first opportunity 444 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 4: in the comedy room to sell tickets? 445 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: I think I think like I said Birmingham, Alabama, when. 446 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 5: I started selling, I was able to get out there 447 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 5: and pump and do my own promotions and I sold 448 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 5: the place. I got my first bonus and people came 449 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 5: to see me because that just solidified because what I do, 450 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 5: and I know a lot of comedians do is is 451 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 5: uh they don't. I don't. 452 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't see it. But I see that I'm teaching 453 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: some of my young. 454 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 5: Count After the show, I had a meet and Greek, 455 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 5: right and I and I still do that nowadays. You know, 456 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 5: I may sell the picture, you know, photo with me 457 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 5: for about ten bucks, but you know it's still a 458 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 5: meeting Greek. You know, it's still and that's how you 459 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 5: sell tickets. And I try to explained to my wife 460 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 5: and everybody else. I said, man, it ain't out there 461 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 5: trying to look. 462 00:22:55,680 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 4: And then now the acting opportunities, the draw which I 463 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: didn't see coming your way when you came into played 464 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: a bodyguard in one of the all time great series, 465 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 4: Breaking Bad. 466 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 3: Tell us how that occurred in your career. 467 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: Man, you know, I just moved my wife and kids. 468 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 1: We had just got married. 469 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 5: I moved out my wife and gives me from my 470 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 5: youngest was born, moved them to California, and I was 471 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 5: on the road, come out rode tired as hell. I 472 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 5: got an audition and it said and I was trying 473 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 5: to reschedule audition. He said, man, you gotta go do 474 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 5: this now. And I you know how you do audition. 475 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 5: I'd have done like billions of them. I was like, man, 476 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 5: I'm tired of getting these like no call backs, nothing 477 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 5: like that. And I went in and I went out 478 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 5: for one thing and read one line for the second thing, 479 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 5: and the guy said, can you start Wednesday? 480 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: And next thing you. 481 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 5: Know, there I was, you know, Breaking Bad, one of 482 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 5: the hottest TV shows in America. 483 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 3: So so you went in not expecting to get it. 484 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: You gave a one hundred percent. The second line he give 485 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: you a job. 486 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I read for two two roads, and. 487 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 5: The second one they had one line, we're clothes, We're closed. 488 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: That was it, and the dude was like you the man, 489 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: and they loved it. And it was you know how 490 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: I used to say that all the time. 491 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 5: How there was those Hollywood stories like Elvis Presley and 492 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 5: I was like he was at a gas stage, he 493 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 5: was just singing, and Colonel town Parker said you need 494 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 5: to be a star, and that's that's I was always 495 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 5: wanted that to happen. 496 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: And I just went in. 497 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 5: I was thinking I was gonna it was like three people, 498 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 5: and then people said read this one line. 499 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: I said, we're clothes and the dude said, can. 500 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 5: You start Wednesday? I said, and I thought it was 501 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 5: a joke. Next you know, I got a plane ticket 502 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 5: I'm going to Albuquerque. 503 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: I'm up there with. 504 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 5: Gen Ga, Carlo Spazito, Brian Craston, and Paul uh Uh 505 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 5: Bob Odenkirk, and I'm sitting up here, got my own 506 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 5: uh On camper, sitting up there in my own trailer. 507 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 5: I'm playing the role all the time, and I wasn't 508 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 5: doing nothing fake acted like I was sleepy. 509 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: Then I like some small roles of talking. 510 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 5: And then why the winner the sag Award won a 511 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 5: sag Award and everything. 512 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 4: Congratulations, congratulations, congratulations. Let me ask you this, man, because 513 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 4: it's so funny. 514 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: Listen to this. When you went in for the audition, 515 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: did you know anything about the series? 516 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: Nothing? I didn't. 517 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 5: I heard about it, but I didn't know nothing about it. 518 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 5: I honestly, god, I didn't know nothing about this show. 519 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 5: You know, like all black people. 520 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: When you when you when you look at that, so 521 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 4: you know, I got to answer this question. Five comedy specials, 522 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 4: shit call? Have you been approached? Are you developing a 523 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 4: sitcom or some type of calm a dramedy for the 524 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: next step because of the fact that you're so amazingly funny. 525 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: Well, I wrote, I wrote it. 526 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 5: I wrote a couple of them called like a daddy 527 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 5: step because I'm a stepfather as well as real father, 528 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: you know, And I want to talk about how how kids, 529 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 5: you know, don't never call black kids don't never call 530 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 5: you daddy. 531 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: Even though they daddy wasn't no good. You always be 532 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: in their life. Boy, everything they daddy was shoes. They 533 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: still calling you by your first name. Thank you, mister. 534 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: Level them. 535 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 5: You know, I do all daddy, and I gotta asks 536 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 5: the father around and I. 537 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: Look at the kid, can I can I step in? 538 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: Yeah? 539 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 5: Mr gram you you made the bills. 540 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, what but but. 541 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 5: But yeah, I wrote that, Scot I wrote that, writing 542 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 5: on that. But I I've had we had me and uh, 543 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 5: what's his name? Ralphie made past you know, got resch 544 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 5: Is sol Me and Raphield was up for a couple 545 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 5: of sitcoms together, playing brothers, you know, and uh, but 546 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 5: it never never panned out. Now they got this writer 547 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 5: strike now, so it's like I've got blessed Adam Sander. 548 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 5: Adam Sander put me in so many, you know, some 549 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 5: of his films. I was so blessed to be a 550 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 5: part of his stuff. I couldn't believe it. And that's 551 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 5: thanks for YouTube. You know, Adam Sander saw. 552 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: Me on YouTube. He put me in. 553 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 5: Ridiculous six and then I was in Huet Halloween and 554 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 5: also did Home Team. 555 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: It just opened doors for everything, yep, exactly. 556 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 4: You know the beauty of watching you now. You know, 557 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 4: we talked about it when Steve Harvey came out and 558 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 4: put his arms around you, and it was a big 559 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 4: deal about the weight loss and things like that, talk 560 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: about that decision making process and we're you right now 561 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 4: emotionally and mentally about your weight. 562 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 5: Well man, you know, you know, you know way wait, 563 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 5: you know, being overweight man is always you know, you 564 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 5: know you're a health guy. I mean you do your 565 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 5: bacon and everything, and but you know you go out, 566 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 5: you know, try to stay healthy and then. 567 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: You know healthy healthy, healthy healthy as well. But you 568 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: know it's like I was. I was comfortable with the 569 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: skin i end, but when. 570 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 5: I had my son and and everything and that, then 571 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 5: I was just looking at some of the things that 572 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 5: I was going through, some of the health issue. 573 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: I said, Man, I think I'm squadding and this blessing 574 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: that God that gave me. 575 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, because if I died from 576 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 5: a heart attack, for me too too much gravy on 577 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 5: my chicken. I think I'll be I think I'm gonna 578 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 5: get to heaven, and guy ain't gonna let me in. 579 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: You could have left that chicken wing sit there. You 580 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: didn't have to eat that, you know. 581 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 5: And then I started feeling, you know, and I you know, 582 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 5: I played sports. I boxed, I play football, I do 583 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 5: even when I was overweight. 584 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: I did jiu jitsu. 585 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 5: I wrestled and went out the way to state and wrestling, 586 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 5: and I did a lot of sports. But you know, 587 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 5: once you'allt here, you doing comedy, and I didn't get 588 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 5: real big until I started making money. When I started 589 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 5: making money, was there to go to Ruth Chris. That's 590 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 5: when I started getting all that butter on the state. 591 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, absolutely, Hey man, they bread 592 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 4: and Ruth Chris. 593 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: That's what I get. 594 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 3: The best brother, that's the best. 595 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: Man. You know. I want to thank you everything gotch 596 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: mm hmm. 597 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: You know the thing about it, because you. 598 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: Know, as we end the show, food and travel, going 599 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 4: to bed late night. You know that comedy you in 600 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 4: it said at ten you're gonna eat you in it 601 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: said that one. 602 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: You go eat, then you wake up, you eat, and 603 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: that's how the weight gain happened. 604 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes our professional won't allow us to be normal, 605 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: and then it just next thing. You know, you're twenty 606 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 4: pounds a week, you're thirty pounds away, you're forty pounds overweight, and. 607 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: So you know, don't look at us bad lifestyle. 608 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 4: And then you're watching my videos on YouTube and you realize, 609 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 4: Rashan make me sick. 610 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 3: He ain't gave you no doing weight. And look at 611 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 3: it he baking every day. 612 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: Of day with them deserts. 613 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: I get that all. I get that all the time. 614 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 3: I get that all that. 615 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: You still got new flash suits. I'd be like, man, 616 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: does he eat it? Love it? 617 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: Leavell man? 618 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 4: I want to thank I know there's been one hell 619 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: of a tape that we went through, but I want 620 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 4: to thank you, brother for taking the time. 621 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 3: And now I know you're in Houston. 622 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 4: We're gonna connect, man, and go down to my favorite 623 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 4: Mexican play, Loopy Tortillas down in Houston, Texas, and then 624 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 4: kick it for a while. 625 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate you, brother. 626 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 5: This is a day, this, this is the thing says you, 627 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 5: you so called know how to fish. 628 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna get out of that wat you have you? 629 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, cause I talked to Ronnie Green yesterday. 630 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 3: So Ronnie Green, I tell you what we will. 631 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: Letsten meet and you do. 632 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 3: An episode of Ronnie Green together. 633 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: How about that? Let's do it? 634 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm let's do it. I'm gonna call Ronnie Green today. 635 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 4: It's just go forward and you and I gonna do 636 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 4: one together. 637 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: Cool, all right? 638 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 4: I love you man, Thank you for coming to my show, 639 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 4: Money Made Conversation Master Class. 640 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: Appreciate your brother, love you bag, take care of man. 641 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: Thank you. 642 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 6: Let me tell you about the host of Money Making Conversations, 643 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 6: Rushan McDonald. 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