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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to wind down today. I'm I'm pumped.
Speaker 1: Why you're not excited, but I'm so excited. No, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: But I have a confession. I have a confession. I
Speaker 1: have never watched Are you ready for this? The Bachelor?
Speaker 1: I have tried, but I've never watched. Why I just
Speaker 1: call me watch sticking it to the man. I think
Speaker 1: part of my problem is I worked in daytime TV
Speaker 1: too long. Yeah, I really do. I mean, is it
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Speaker 1: Who bothers you more? The girls? Or the nobody bothers
Speaker 1: me at all? Nobody bothers me because I just don't
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Speaker 1: Scripted with with a storyline like crime or Okay, you
Speaker 1: don't like like like Sharper objects like she's drinking vodka
Speaker 1: all day? Like that's interesting to me. Well, although they're drinking.
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Speaker 1: great way to start a conversation. Right, you guys, we
Speaker 1: have Chris Harrison on the phone, and I like the
Speaker 1: the the Chris Harrison. Hey, Chris, you're in studio with me,
Speaker 1: Jen and my husband. Hi. Hello, Hello everybody Hello, counts
Speaker 1: that are out there. I mean, the better not be
Speaker 1: a fake, this better be there was better to be
Speaker 1: the real Chris, because we want to we want to
Speaker 1: ask you like all the all the goods. Um. Jen
Speaker 1: has never watched a Bachelor episode, like ever. I will
Speaker 1: excuse her from the show. I do love you never
Speaker 1: He's never watched it ever. It's been on for seventeen years.
Speaker 1: It's seventeen years. Yes, seventeen years. You've seen a show
Speaker 1: it's been It has been on the air as long
Speaker 1: as I was married. Wow. Yes, well we all make mistakes,
Speaker 1: Um yeah, No. I have my son and all ferousness
Speaker 1: was six weeks old when I got a job. He
Speaker 1: is now a junior in high school. So when he walked,
Speaker 1: you know, of course, that's a lot of the people
Speaker 1: have been around for you know, ten, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen
Speaker 1: years on the show, and so when they knew my
Speaker 1: kids babies, and then they walk on set and he's
Speaker 1: six ft one and Big Old Junior and Night School.
Speaker 1: It's crazy to think that's how long we've been doing this.
Speaker 1: Did you think, like when you got that gig as
Speaker 1: you know, the host, did you think that it would
Speaker 1: have this longevity that it has? No never you know,
Speaker 1: you can't possibly think that in television if you're niver stupid,
Speaker 1: because you just never know what's going to resonate and
Speaker 1: what's going to catch Because at the time, the Survivor
Speaker 1: had just started, so the whole reality thing really hadn't
Speaker 1: even thought fire yet. It was also new, and this
Speaker 1: concept was completely foreign and new, and so it was
Speaker 1: you know, you never know what's going to catch it.
Speaker 1: And by the way, not only will it catch and
Speaker 1: it was huge for such a long time. But you
Speaker 1: know why it still resonates and why it continues to
Speaker 1: draw and an audience younger and younger, is you know,
Speaker 1: it goes against kind of all convention of conventional wisdom
Speaker 1: and television. Why is that, Chris? Why do you think
Speaker 1: this has been able to last so long? Besides you
Speaker 1: being the host? Of course, there's only one content, So
Speaker 1: I would leave. I would tell my agent to sell
Speaker 1: the network. I think it's about and take it a
Speaker 1: little cheesy. It's about that one thing that we can
Speaker 1: all relate to everyone under. Yeah, it is. It's companionship
Speaker 1: love no matter where I travel in the world, where
Speaker 1: you guys go, you know, it's the one thing that
Speaker 1: kind of connects as ault. We all get it. And
Speaker 1: the other thing is the show remains fresh because of
Speaker 1: the bat. Isn't that direct that we have? And so
Speaker 1: you know, the back if we had kept going with Trista,
Speaker 1: for example, who I love from sixteen seventeen years ago
Speaker 1: and she was the only one that we've ever had,
Speaker 1: well she's and I don't I don't mean to out her,
Speaker 1: but she's in her forties now and she probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: be considered as cool to the college kids, to the
Speaker 1: high school kids. But instead it's this new crop of back.
Speaker 1: Doesn't that tourette right? Who's your favorite bacherette of all
Speaker 1: of them? Can you say that or not? You can't
Speaker 1: do that to me. I can ask you anything I want.
Speaker 1: I know, it's like who's your favorite child? Well, but
Speaker 1: you know I would go back, honestly just to you know,
Speaker 1: like a Trista, just because life changed so much, and
Speaker 1: it wouldn't just be because of Trista. But because of
Speaker 1: how my life changed and the show was changing, and
Speaker 1: and and so much happened during all that time that
Speaker 1: you know, it's not that I'm not grateful now, but
Speaker 1: it was just a crazy experience to be a part
Speaker 1: of back that Chris, what is that conversation like when
Speaker 1: your son comes to you one day and says, ad,
Speaker 1: I want to be the next Bachelor. I think for him,
Speaker 1: I'll never have to worry about it. I could possibly
Speaker 1: see my daughter, Taylor, who was fourteen, who was born
Speaker 1: two years into speaking of like things where I remember, um, Meredith,
Speaker 1: season of the Back Trette was wrapping up and we
Speaker 1: were just about to go out to the desert and
Speaker 1: go to Trista's wedding, and that's when Taylor was born. Um,
Speaker 1: so it's amazing that you know, my kids have grown
Speaker 1: up in this. So I could see my I could
Speaker 1: see my daughter doing it, and honestly, if she wanted
Speaker 1: to good honor, just remember Dad's always watching. I mean
Speaker 1: that's got to be hard for you though, as like
Speaker 1: a dad, to like see some of these girls and
Speaker 1: then you think about your daughter. Yeah, it's just I mean,
Speaker 1: that's gotta be that's gotta be tough for you. I mean,
Speaker 1: do they really kind of look at you as someone
Speaker 1: that they can like a confidante on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well then that's the kind of what I've grown into.
Speaker 1: It's you know, my role has definitely changed over the years. Sure, Um,
Speaker 1: you know I started out really is just the whole
Speaker 1: and reading whatever lines they kind of put in front
Speaker 1: of me, and we're all making it up as we went. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously I've been around for seventeen years. I helped produce
Speaker 1: the show. I know it, you know, as good. It's
Speaker 1: not better than anybody else working on the show now,
Speaker 1: and so it definitely has changed. And you've earned that
Speaker 1: respect with experience and time. So it's definitely evolved over
Speaker 1: the years. But you know, the funny aspect with my
Speaker 1: daughter is the conversation that it has kind of opened up.
Speaker 1: You know, she's at that age, she's fourteen, where dad
Speaker 1: wants to have conversations with his daughter, but it's hard
Speaker 1: because it's awkward and weird. But the Bachelor's kind of
Speaker 1: opened some of those doors to having some pretty difficult conversations.
Speaker 1: I will use the show We'll be watching and I'll say, Okay,
Speaker 1: what do you, what do you think of what she
Speaker 1: just did there? What do you think of that guy
Speaker 1: and how he's acting? And it's fun to kind of
Speaker 1: allow her to talk about it, and she didn't really
Speaker 1: realize conversation. Yeah, we're a good way to use that
Speaker 1: tool to open up the door. Chris, with your role
Speaker 1: kind of being more of a mentor now in these
Speaker 1: later see s. I mean, do you really find yourself
Speaker 1: pulling contestants aside and being like, hey man, stop being
Speaker 1: a douchebag. Or do do you encourage I mean, not
Speaker 1: encourage it, but you just let it happen because it
Speaker 1: adds to the show. I usually use stronger language than that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of both. There is that fine line,
Speaker 1: if I get it, where we're creating television. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, these argument beings and I do care
Speaker 1: about most of them, not all of them, but most
Speaker 1: of them, and you you do want to help them,
Speaker 1: especially when they are back or back Torett. I feel
Speaker 1: that they are kind of under my care. It's almost
Speaker 1: like a coach, you know, taking a kid to college.
Speaker 1: You feel responsible for those kids. Um, you know when
Speaker 1: that is the back toorette. You try and help her
Speaker 1: avoid some of the pitfalls. Um, you know, I have to,
Speaker 1: you know, have hands off a little bit because we
Speaker 1: are creating a show and you want her to really
Speaker 1: experience some of these situations. You can't prepare for everything.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, there is a certain sense of you know,
Speaker 1: whether I would like to say it's an older friend
Speaker 1: more than just a dad because that makes me feel
Speaker 1: really old. But I just I love that. But I
Speaker 1: gotta say I do not agree with the Bachelor choice
Speaker 1: that they've just made with Colton. I just don't. I don't. Well, first,
Speaker 1: You're not the only one I've seen that I've I've looked,
Speaker 1: you know, I've looked into it a little bit about
Speaker 1: the kind of backlash for me though, I'm like, don't
Speaker 1: you want to test drive before you buy the car?
Speaker 1: Like you're you're talking about a whole different issue. First
Speaker 1: of all, I don't know which is great. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to say like virgins aren't like whatever, but for
Speaker 1: me personally, like I'd be like, no, I don't want
Speaker 1: to go on the show because I have to. I
Speaker 1: think sex is such a big I mean, if what
Speaker 1: if he sucks at in bed and then you have
Speaker 1: to be married. I mean right, and you you, I
Speaker 1: mean he's gonna lose gusto in the second and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like what if he doesn't know?
Speaker 1: And it's like then now you're now you're going to
Speaker 1: be married to that. But as a woman, you could
Speaker 1: be opportunistic. But I can mold him, but sometimes you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't. I've tried to mold like bad kissers. If
Speaker 1: you are a bad kisser, you are bad. If you
Speaker 1: are bad at sex, you aren't bad. You're also you're
Speaker 1: you're opening a lot of different topics because I agree
Speaker 1: if you and it's not necessarily batist, but it's someone
Speaker 1: who doesn't blend with you if you don't have that
Speaker 1: chemistry when you're kidding. I'm a I'm a firm believer
Speaker 1: that just just cut the cord. You're done, done done,
Speaker 1: You're done done. You're not that there's something dramatically off
Speaker 1: now true, But what are they going to do in
Speaker 1: the in the overnights? Are they just gonna hold hands?
Speaker 1: I like, what if we watch him lose his virginia?
Speaker 1: Lose it? Like I don't mean to be a creeper.
Speaker 1: But I'll watch that and just want to watch I'll
Speaker 1: watch that. Well, then maybe maybe you just reaffirmed our choice.
Speaker 1: I just feel like I will say this, like I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to talk bad about him. I met him.
Speaker 1: He came in the studio because he was he was
Speaker 1: doing another podcast with Ben, and he just seems like
Speaker 1: a baby to me. He's even like his face like
Speaker 1: he's just a he seems very sweet. I think he
Speaker 1: I know he does a lot of good things in
Speaker 1: the community, but she just doesn't seem like a man
Speaker 1: to me. Well, I didn't you just I just I
Speaker 1: watched him on the BECA. He's not like he's not
Speaker 1: a man like Garrett was a man like Garrett like,
Speaker 1: and Colton was like just like he hasn't he doesn't
Speaker 1: have the life experience, Like who wants to be with
Speaker 1: someone that wants to like not have those life experiences
Speaker 1: and like have been in relationships and done those things.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's just me, But good luck to
Speaker 1: the women I'm with you. Look, I'm of a certain age.
Speaker 1: I don't want to date a virgin. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: dated a virgin, we'd have major problems with you'd be
Speaker 1: dating the four year old virgin. There's a large misnomer
Speaker 1: out there. Uh, and feel free to back me up
Speaker 1: in there that you know guys like, well, that would
Speaker 1: be a dream to date a virgin. Like, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: There's there's a home list of complications that comes along
Speaker 1: with that. But I think Michael, you could speak to
Speaker 1: this part where it's like, you know, he did say
Speaker 1: on the show too, where he felt like he had
Speaker 1: to like be like, yeah, I'm bang in all these
Speaker 1: chicks because that's like what locker room talk, and that's
Speaker 1: like that's not who he was. But he felt like
Speaker 1: in that lifestyle of football, like he felt like he
Speaker 1: had to like have that he might meet some he
Speaker 1: might meet a woman, hopefully he will on the show
Speaker 1: that is also a virgin. I know I know one
Speaker 1: virgin and I love you because I know she listens.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say her name, but she's in
Speaker 1: her early twenties, she's waiting until marriage. She's that's okay,
Speaker 1: that's great, But what is what is the reasoning? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, is it religion? Is it an issue from
Speaker 1: your childhood? Their trauma? There? Is it just to believe
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of different reasons, and that's really
Speaker 1: that's probably what I would want to get to no
Speaker 1: matter who I was dating. Why are you doing it? Okay?
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Speaker 1: so can we switch gears a little bit? Um about
Speaker 1: because you are divorced. I am thank you this ship
Speaker 1: the show that well, yeah, like it was your wife
Speaker 1: like jealous of all these women that because I mean,
Speaker 1: here's the deal, if you know it is basically, if
Speaker 1: it's a bachelor, you've got all these women that are
Speaker 1: probably trying to flirt with you too. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I thought radio silence. Wow, no answer your question. You know,
Speaker 1: we were married. I met my wife back in college.
Speaker 1: We were old childhood sweethearts, and you know, we met
Speaker 1: we were eighteen years old and got married very young.
Speaker 1: So she grew up around the show, and she traveled,
Speaker 1: you know, expectly. Again we had young kids, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: they would often come with me when we were in
Speaker 1: Italy or France or whatever, and she was there a lot.
Speaker 1: And you know, when you were around this business, you know,
Speaker 1: like cuntry music or anything else, you realize it's not
Speaker 1: nearly as glamorous as everyone makes it seem. Obviously, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they'd be crazy not to start with me. I
Speaker 1: think that's what you were getting at. So do you
Speaker 1: kind of now that you're like single? Do you when
Speaker 1: you know this next season it's like, are you kind
Speaker 1: of like taking your picks too? For yourself? I always
Speaker 1: I tell the Batlors, I'm like, Okay, she's off limits.
Speaker 1: She's off limits, but everybody else, you know, I just
Speaker 1: I still limital stuff. Was like, man, she really just
Speaker 1: seems like a bit You're not you would saying some
Speaker 1: stuff behind your back? You bet there? That's amazing, Chris.
Speaker 1: Do you you know you've been doing this for so
Speaker 1: long and you've watched all of these people fall in
Speaker 1: love or not fall in love. Are you do you
Speaker 1: go into a season intuitively, like with the gut feeling
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, so and So's they're going to be
Speaker 1: at like that? Not you know, not anymore, just because
Speaker 1: I realized how bad I am at that and and my, my,
Speaker 1: my women's intuition is must be really bad because you know,
Speaker 1: you think night one would you would have a pretty
Speaker 1: good idea, um, and I will stay for the Bachelorette.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit sometimes. I was going to say
Speaker 1: it's I think it's easier too for the bat because
Speaker 1: I knew day one, I was like Garrett so one, like,
Speaker 1: even before I read the reality Steve and all those
Speaker 1: like spoilers, I was like, I know, and even if
Speaker 1: Garrett isn't like the one, I knew he was going
Speaker 1: to be Top four. Yeah. Same thing with Blake, And
Speaker 1: there's just certain guys that really peak early. With the Bator,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, a little bit harder to
Speaker 1: break down. And again there's always that one or two
Speaker 1: that will kind of you know they're gonna be around.
Speaker 1: But I think the potential for a dark horse is
Speaker 1: a lot higher for in the Bachelor. Michael was going
Speaker 1: to be on the Bachelor, But the Bachelorette, I think
Speaker 1: it's Emily season. Yeah, yeah, I was. I was still
Speaker 1: in the NFL and playing for Buffalo, and you would
Speaker 1: have been what his face this past season, where you like,
Speaker 1: what was his name in the first Yeah. No, no,
Speaker 1: the other football player who actually got hurt playing fall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. I direct message Becca after that, I go,
Speaker 1: were you really that sad that he left? I felt.
Speaker 1: I just felt so bad for him. We're having this
Speaker 1: twof around football game, and you know the guy I
Speaker 1: think it's you know, he's one of those guys and Michael,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's so hard to give it up
Speaker 1: and lea even even when you kind of deep down
Speaker 1: you know it's done, and trying to hold on for
Speaker 1: one or two more seasons, and then he gets hurt
Speaker 1: where I'm just like, oh God, Like on the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: that's what ended it. Yeah, how did how did you
Speaker 1: get hurt on the Bachelorette? Yeah? But you did. You
Speaker 1: did your interviews and stuff, didn't you. Yeah? I did.
Speaker 1: I don't remember one of the casting producer, whoever it
Speaker 1: was that I met with, I can't remember her name
Speaker 1: right now. But yeah. We had a game actually, we're
Speaker 1: playing the Chargers and came out here because it's West Coast,
Speaker 1: came we came in day early, and they came to
Speaker 1: the hotel we were staying at San Diego and took
Speaker 1: like still shots they're like an on camera interview, and
Speaker 1: I was good to go. During the off season, even
Speaker 1: the words spread quick throughout the team and organization where
Speaker 1: even had my coaches coming up to me like being
Speaker 1: all excited about it. And uh, I ultimately tore my
Speaker 1: a c l at the end of that season, so
Speaker 1: I kind of decided not to And my offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: at the time came up to me, He's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry you got hurt. I hope you're doing okay,
Speaker 1: but uh, I just want to know are you still
Speaker 1: going to do the Bachelorette. But that literally came out
Speaker 1: of my offensive coordinator's mouth, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, probably not. They all wanted to buy Curious
Speaker 1: loop through you knowing what you know now thinking back,
Speaker 1: do you regret any decisions are not being on the
Speaker 1: bat to arette. I don't think Emily would have been
Speaker 1: your girl anyway. No, I don't like bonds anyway. But
Speaker 1: you would have been competitive and like wanted to be
Speaker 1: the winner. I think. I think that's what a lot
Speaker 1: of the contestants just would have been, like, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a top four. I'm very confident in that. Wow. No,
Speaker 1: but I mean even if I think if I was,
Speaker 1: because I've thought about it, Like when I was single,
Speaker 1: I thought about maybe like you know, either trying like
Speaker 1: I don't know, or just trying to be like one
Speaker 1: of the girls on the show. But I think I'm
Speaker 1: so competitive where I would even if I didn't like
Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, like there's been so many Bachelor's
Speaker 1: that I've just not liked at all, but I think
Speaker 1: I would have pretended to like them more just so
Speaker 1: I could like be the winner. Is that you see
Speaker 1: that happening? Basically? Yeah, everybody I send to see it
Speaker 1: a little more honestly with the women than I give
Speaker 1: them that. Yeah, I think men are a little bit
Speaker 1: more cut and dry when we like someone or well, um,
Speaker 1: and that typically doesn't change, you know. It's whereas women
Speaker 1: you can see a certain different side of a man
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he can be sweet or romantic
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. Maybe it's competitive and and that
Speaker 1: those feelings can change. Typically for a guy, if you're
Speaker 1: not into a woman, usually that does not change, no
Speaker 1: matter what. I sometimes use the prison or deserted island analogy,
Speaker 1: like you're on a deserted island, only one dude. Suddenly
Speaker 1: that guy. Yeah, especially if he's taking you to like
Speaker 1: funny and cool and he's taking you to eat the
Speaker 1: coconut and you're like yeah, Like that's what in an
Speaker 1: athletic world, that's what we called camp eyes. When you're
Speaker 1: in training camp for like six weeks, all you have
Speaker 1: is a bunch of testofer and the dudes around you.
Speaker 1: Then the first you're like, lunch lady. You see You're like,
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Speaker 1: like the guy by the copier is cute because you're
Speaker 1: in the office a bunch of trolls or the delivery
Speaker 1: man that comes. I heard listening to this right now.
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy Bachelor in Paradise like because you get
Speaker 1: to have like a vacation. Uh? Well, it is. It's
Speaker 1: nice being in Mexico, But it's actually a hardner show
Speaker 1: to shoot. It's a lot it's a lot more condensed.
Speaker 1: They don't give us nearly as much money at Summer TV,
Speaker 1: so our budget is aller than we We do a
Speaker 1: lot more work and it's a lot more intensive than
Speaker 1: the backturm bat Torette where we have so many more
Speaker 1: producers and people and camera operators and crews working. So
Speaker 1: it's it's a tough shoot. But at the same time, yes,
Speaker 1: we're down on a beach in Mexico and it doesn't
Speaker 1: suck right then it's fun for me. It's back to paradise.
Speaker 1: Is you've signed up for, you've come back. You know
Speaker 1: what you're in for, and so we get to have
Speaker 1: a lot more fun with us than than than than
Speaker 1: the first time around. With the back to bat to Arette.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was pretty coincidental that Colton broke up
Speaker 1: with Tea and then all of a sudden, I don't know,
Speaker 1: the editing was interesting for me. Well, we had to
Speaker 1: we obviously they needed to break up before we get announced.
Speaker 1: We were trying to hold it as long as possible,
Speaker 1: but you know it's going to get out, and I
Speaker 1: mean it did get out, but um, it's you know,
Speaker 1: at some point we had to announce because we're we
Speaker 1: need to go to his hometown and start shooting the
Speaker 1: packages and let the other guys know. So it's you know,
Speaker 1: a luck goes into it that we kind of had
Speaker 1: to we had to kind of move it forward. So
Speaker 1: with all these with the Bachelor, with bachelorm Paradise, you
Speaker 1: know you're doing who wants to be a millionaire? You've
Speaker 1: got your your brewery up in Texas? Like, how are
Speaker 1: you finding time for all of this that you're doing? Um,
Speaker 1: I don't I really, it's that's the longest short that
Speaker 1: I wish time for, you know, really in the time
Speaker 1: I want, I don't want for more business. I want
Speaker 1: for you know, hang out with the kids and watching
Speaker 1: the cross and going to sccer games and all the
Speaker 1: fun stuff that you know, this window of opportunity. And
Speaker 1: you guys have a young one, but you know my kids,
Speaker 1: you know, my son and two years off to college
Speaker 1: and then you know a few more years. I got
Speaker 1: my daughter going off and then I'll have more time
Speaker 1: than I want. But right now I try to be
Speaker 1: as home as much as possible and and just hang
Speaker 1: out with a kid. So like this week, I have
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks before we go back into bathroom production,
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm doing, just making turkey sandwiches in
Speaker 1: the morning, getting kids dinner at night, and front around.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be married again? Like is that
Speaker 1: something that you would want that again? No, it's not
Speaker 1: a goal of mine anymore. Um. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: time in your life when that's really importantly. I wanted
Speaker 1: to have kids, that wanted to have a family, and
Speaker 1: I had that, and I had a wonderful marriage as
Speaker 1: well for a long time, and got two great kids
Speaker 1: out of it. And my X and I are still
Speaker 1: very close. We lived very close. Um. But you know,
Speaker 1: the goal is getting married isn't necessarily there. I would
Speaker 1: love to be in love. I would love to meet
Speaker 1: somebody special and spend time with them and being that
Speaker 1: committed relationship. If that turns to marriage someday, great, If
Speaker 1: it doesn't, I really don't care. It's not it's not
Speaker 1: a big deal to me anymore. Like it like it
Speaker 1: was because you know you need it for that stage
Speaker 1: your life. I call it goldie hont Yeah. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: and and they they may be onto something. It's not
Speaker 1: such a bad thing. You can you know you're always
Speaker 1: dating and constantly, you know, putting forth that effort, and
Speaker 1: you know you're committed, but you also know that person
Speaker 1: could walk away at any moments. You better kind of
Speaker 1: feel like you're in the phase of like just like
Speaker 1: you just want to have fun right now. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean I think that has the I can
Speaker 1: just sleep around and and all that, and that's that's
Speaker 1: not necessarily a case like meeting someone would be wonderful.
Speaker 1: And I'm always open to meeting somebody fantastic and have tried.
Speaker 1: I've been in relation since my divorce. They've just been quiet.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big, live out loud on Instagram kind
Speaker 1: of goal. But um, you know, if that comes across grain,
Speaker 1: I's not you know, that's the problem is that you
Speaker 1: guys just astutely pointed out. I work a lot, I
Speaker 1: travel a ton when I'm home a lot with my kids,
Speaker 1: So I don't have a lot of that to give
Speaker 1: right now. I don't have a lot of heart and
Speaker 1: soul to just devote to somebody else. At this point,
Speaker 1: it's just not the time of my life. But if
Speaker 1: it comes around, you know, I always feel like I
Speaker 1: think something around. You make time for things that mean
Speaker 1: a lot to you. What if you went on the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: that would be the most watch season of all time?
Speaker 1: Would you ever consider that? Um? Look, as my mom says,
Speaker 1: never say never. There's always that would be so great.
Speaker 1: That's how you end the whole series. It's like the
Speaker 1: last series. There's always the price tag for everything, right
Speaker 1: the man, I would be very clear that you know
Speaker 1: when when athletes go up and they signed their hundred
Speaker 1: million dollar contracts, that it's not the money. I love
Speaker 1: the game. I would just I would hold a press
Speaker 1: conference and I would take my five or thirty million
Speaker 1: dollars and I said, guys, I am doing this for
Speaker 1: the money. I'm letting you know. This is my Hawaiian
Speaker 1: vacations on I will never see any of you again
Speaker 1: in about six months. Um. If one of you happens
Speaker 1: to win my heart, cool, but that's not why I'm here.
Speaker 1: That would be my toast on night one. You all
Speaker 1: seem lovely. I appreciate your time. If this works out,
Speaker 1: great is not. I have thirty million dollars in my
Speaker 1: life and I'll take you all the Hawaii. Um so,
Speaker 1: what what made you want to get into a restaurant,
Speaker 1: because that's that business is is crazy. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: really dumb decision. You don't like if anyone will tell you.
Speaker 1: As my financial guy said, when I told him, he goes,
Speaker 1: what do you expect to get out of this? I said, well,
Speaker 1: not money. He's like Okay, good, as long as you
Speaker 1: don't expect to actually, uh, it was this weird in
Speaker 1: all seriousness. Is this amazing kind of timing. And I'm
Speaker 1: a pretty term believer in karma and timing. And I
Speaker 1: was home about three years ago, almost to them to
Speaker 1: the week my grandmother had passed away, amazing woman from Dallas.
Speaker 1: I'm third generation Dallas and years old. And we were
Speaker 1: kind of reminiscing one night with a really good family
Speaker 1: friend of mine how I had grown up with, and
Speaker 1: he was he's an amazing chef, an executive chef, and
Speaker 1: he was talking to me about how we get his
Speaker 1: own place and starting up a restaurant and you know,
Speaker 1: this is what they're doing. And um, we talked and
Speaker 1: talked and he's like, you know, the more I seem interested,
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, we're actually looking for one more person.
Speaker 1: He's like, you'd be kind of fun to do this with.
Speaker 1: And you know, a long story short, I jumped in it.
Speaker 1: Did you know what? It just makes sense, like you know,
Speaker 1: my Mi Mimi wouldn't have steered me wrong. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm it's in which part of Texas is it? It's
Speaker 1: down down by downtown and it's a great little area
Speaker 1: called Trinity Grow. Do you ever make any appearances like
Speaker 1: when WHENNY Bachelor people make appearances or yeah, I was
Speaker 1: there for opening night and the opening night was insane.
Speaker 1: It was a packed house. We have it's a working brewery,
Speaker 1: so we have our own bruise. We have this award
Speaker 1: winning brewmaster. We have this executive chef, Michael Weinstein, who's
Speaker 1: been down in Dallas for years. The men look fantastic,
Speaker 1: by the way. You know what they do that I love.
Speaker 1: And this is what Michael said, Texas, you know jealousy,
Speaker 1: didn't think too hard, but it's phenomenal. He does the
Speaker 1: simple really really well. And and it's a seasonal men.
Speaker 1: You farmed the table, so it's a little bit different
Speaker 1: than your typical you know brou pubs or Castroom pubs
Speaker 1: and um and you know all the Bator people. The
Speaker 1: Elvedalas folks came out. Rachel was there and jo Jo
Speaker 1: and Um, Raven and Adam and Sean and Catherine and
Speaker 1: their fifteen kids. Fun. It was fun to see everybody.
Speaker 1: That's really sweet. Hey, when you're doing um, who wants
Speaker 1: to be a millionaire? Do you ever just sometimes look
Speaker 1: at the contestant and be like, man, you're an idiot
Speaker 1: for like not knowing a question. You know, I think
Speaker 1: probably three or four years ago I did, but now
Speaker 1: I realized. And this is one one of my favorite
Speaker 1: lines and I spell it from my executive producer James Raley.
Speaker 1: If the trivia is only hard if you don't know
Speaker 1: the answer, And it's so true. If I ask you,
Speaker 1: you know, a country music question or Michael, a football question,
Speaker 1: you're like, really, you're asking me how many points a
Speaker 1: touchdown is? But if if you don't watch football, then
Speaker 1: that is ridiculous. Then if I turn around and ask
Speaker 1: you a question about Shakespeare or geography and the Middle East,
Speaker 1: and your stopped. So it's it's really fascinating to me.
Speaker 1: And that's what's great about the game. Over fourteen questions,
Speaker 1: you're going to run into an area that you are
Speaker 1: just not familiar with, and if you want to gamble,
Speaker 1: if you can get by it, that's the big challenge.
Speaker 1: But eventually you're gonna you're gonna get that question, whether
Speaker 1: it's math, geography, pop culture, sports, that is really in
Speaker 1: your blind spot. Do you feel smarter? I feel like
Speaker 1: you have all the answers. It's like Alex tra back
Speaker 1: in Jeopardy. It's I have definitely learned a ridiculous amount
Speaker 1: of odd, odd trivia questions. For sure. I'm a great
Speaker 1: person to have at a party now, Um, I can
Speaker 1: just start throwing out bizarre trivial notes. Um. But it's fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, but there aren't times, especially early on, and
Speaker 1: I feel bad because look, the first two or three questions,
Speaker 1: you expect them to get by, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: set up to where they will get by, and you
Speaker 1: just get into the game. And when they get stomped
Speaker 1: on on the first or second question and there is
Speaker 1: a there's a massive clue, you know. You know, the
Speaker 1: sky is what color? And it rhymes with blue, you know,
Speaker 1: and the questions are one, four, six and blue, and
Speaker 1: you're just like, why are you having trouble with this?
Speaker 1: And and but you look the lights, the cameras. People
Speaker 1: are nervous, they get in their own head. But it's
Speaker 1: those are the times when I just I cringe. But
Speaker 1: it's also good TV. You know, you had you were
Speaker 1: very um that one bachelor you did not like, and
Speaker 1: you were very vocal about that, and I loved that.
Speaker 1: So I can't even remember his name Wan Pablo Wan Pablo.
Speaker 1: I just I'll never forget watch because I didn't watch
Speaker 1: the season because I thought he was an arrogant prick.
Speaker 1: But I just remember watching like the Final Rows with
Speaker 1: you and you like it was so great because you
Speaker 1: didn't like hide your disgust for with him, and I
Speaker 1: just I just want you to know that I appreciated
Speaker 1: that well. And it wasn't that a I just lost
Speaker 1: a lot of respects to the way he was treating
Speaker 1: the women, in the way he was talking to the women,
Speaker 1: and you know, he was a little bit of a misogynist, sexist,
Speaker 1: and he you know, I tried to help him again,
Speaker 1: you know, giving him the benefit of the doubt. I
Speaker 1: tried to help him, and you know, like, look, you
Speaker 1: can't you know, maybe there's a language barriers from Venezuela.
Speaker 1: These words aren't coming out like you think they are,
Speaker 1: and so I was trying to help him, and he
Speaker 1: when he started talking third person, That's when I knew
Speaker 1: we were in trouble. You know, anybody who starts referring
Speaker 1: to themselves by their full name, we were in trouble.
Speaker 1: You were in the most amount of trouble. Well, unless
Speaker 1: unless you're baseball legend Rickey Henderson, who famously was great
Speaker 1: at that. For Gretzky, who he can talk the third
Speaker 1: person if he wants to, like, I have a great one.
Speaker 1: I know Wayne very well, and he would never do that.
Speaker 1: That's the thing, even even the great one would never
Speaker 1: say the great one on Ever, when one Paplo looked
Speaker 1: at me, is this one Pablo? And they oh boy,
Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, I said, first of all, you've
Speaker 1: got to stop preferring yourself and the third person. What what? What? What?
Speaker 1: What does this mean? I said, Okay, well, now we
Speaker 1: need to back up. Do you need a little need
Speaker 1: a little English? Now you just need to learn? Um. Well,
Speaker 1: I love you so much. Thank you for being so
Speaker 1: candid with us and open and honest. And I'm excited
Speaker 1: to watch um everything you do because you're killing it.
Speaker 1: And I will say to the people that are listening,
Speaker 1: when I met you, you were just so kind and
Speaker 1: present and sweet, and I just really appreciate that. Well
Speaker 1: touch of music fans, we stick together. We're usually good people.
Speaker 1: Heck yeah, perfectly, but no, I appreciate it. I love
Speaker 1: getting to know you and Michael. Hopefully something are pass
Speaker 1: a cross, but I appreciate the time. I really always
Speaker 1: appreciate the support from you guys. Well we love you,
Speaker 1: and um we're rough back to your dog. He's so nice,
Speaker 1: he's so nice. I mean, I just couldn't imagine like
Speaker 1: being around those people, like as people, like all the people,
Speaker 1: they're freaking crazy, the bachelors and Bachelor at Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 1: there's just no way. It's it's the sorority house that
Speaker 1: I don't want to be in. Yes, but everybody's going
Speaker 1: for the one guy. And but that's the thing, Like
Speaker 1: that's and that's another reason why again I couldn't do
Speaker 1: a sorority or the Bachelor, because I would just be
Speaker 1: the second I got on there, I'd be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that girl is prettier than me. This girl, like that
Speaker 1: girl's funnier than me. And then I would just do
Speaker 1: you know they're all doing that, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: Some of them are so overly confident that they're like
Speaker 1: I am the prettiest one in the room. Well, some
Speaker 1: of them. Number one is probably not number two. They
Speaker 1: are narcissistic in a sense and have tendencies and that's
Speaker 1: just the way their ego is. But I guarantee you
Speaker 1: of even the guys are and they're like, this guy's
Speaker 1: a dude, Alan, that guy might be some competition because
Speaker 1: we're competitive people and the girls are the same thing.
Speaker 1: So they put on that front, but you know, deep
Speaker 1: down inside, all those little feelings are coming out, Like
Speaker 1: I would have loved him in the Bachelor up maybe
Speaker 1: I think maybe I still could. Well, if you want
Speaker 1: to come he's like staring at me right now, do
Speaker 1: you want to come on and being a contestant trying
Speaker 1: to win my heart back? Yeah, everyone will go to
Speaker 1: sleep and wake up next morning. I'm the only one
Speaker 1: stole a lot where people murdered in the best house,
Speaker 1: the best ratings ever. Okay, I got to talk about
Speaker 1: Third Love because, um, I'm we're actually wearing the bar
Speaker 1: right now. It's really comfortable. Um, they just they just Michael.
Speaker 1: They just added twenty four new sizes, making them the
Speaker 1: industry leader with a total of seventy sizes. And what
Speaker 1: I love about it too, is because my breast shape
Speaker 1: is changing. Um, they do half sizes. That's so cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because sometimes you know, like right now, I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: a full double D, but I'm more than a D
Speaker 1: with my and by the way I've never been. I know. Okay,
Speaker 1: the second is Baby's out. It's going to be a
Speaker 1: smalley again. Okay, they're going to deflate like balloons. Some
Speaker 1: girlfriends this weekend who I did not even like tee
Speaker 1: it up, who were literally ordering braws on Third Love
Speaker 1: and they were so pumped about the half size. The
Speaker 1: half size thing for people that are changing, it's like
Speaker 1: a game changer. Yes, no, I love it and it
Speaker 1: shows up at your door. And for me to like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what is like whenever I go into
Speaker 1: like a Victoria's Secret, I don't like having to have
Speaker 1: this lady measure me. But they actually for Third Love
Speaker 1: there's a fit finder quiz so you get to find
Speaker 1: your perfect fit with an under a minute um and
Speaker 1: I think that's amazing. So cups from A through H
Speaker 1: bands up to forty eight and of women fall in
Speaker 1: between standard cup sizes. So again that's why they invented
Speaker 1: the half cup. Third Love knows there's a perfect bra
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Speaker 1: love dot com slash Jana for fifteen percent off. Is
Speaker 1: it weird to be a double D? Now? It is?
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I know they're gonna be
Speaker 1: o A. That's why I show them off when I
Speaker 1: have it one like, that's why I wear like low
Speaker 1: cutting things. And I'm like, I've got boobs right now
Speaker 1: and the about eleven weeks I want to do when
Speaker 1: they were as that are like you're noticing or bumping
Speaker 1: into them or something. I mean, I know you've got
Speaker 1: your bellies. No, I mean I I do get and
Speaker 1: I will, like I said, I mean, you know, and
Speaker 1: Jen can't give me crap for this because she know
Speaker 1: she had her stuff. But I'm gonna I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: a I'm gonna get a healthy BC. Just don't do
Speaker 1: agenda and get it done and then come and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think about me getting terrible? Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess I listen. I fully support you because at
Speaker 1: some point I'm going to get a reduction. So in
Speaker 1: your boobs, give me because I'm a double D. And
Speaker 1: it's the most annoying thing on the planet when you
Speaker 1: want to wear a jumpsuit or something. So listen, the
Speaker 1: trade off isn't always you know, everybody wants what we don't.
Speaker 1: I just personally don't like wearing bras, so but that's
Speaker 1: what Also, I will say third Love, they have really
Speaker 1: cool bandos that I wear. So yeah, they've got like
Speaker 1: bando brawlets, which is which are nice because they don't
Speaker 1: have like the pads and wiring and stuff. So that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what about you, Mike to wear bras Yeah? Oh um,
Speaker 1: we have been binging a show and I binged it
Speaker 1: when we were in Virginia and I'm absolute obsessed and
Speaker 1: I need you to start watching an asap. What is Ozark? Oh?
Speaker 1: Are you watching season one or season two? Well? I
Speaker 1: I binge season one and I gave Janet homework. I
Speaker 1: told her at the beginning of August. I was like, look,
Speaker 1: season two of both Stark comes out August thirty one.
Speaker 1: I'm giving you a month advanced noticed to watch season one.
Speaker 1: She waited till the last five days of the month,
Speaker 1: but cranked about but finished season one within before Friday.
Speaker 1: Obsessed and then so now we're on episode we have
Speaker 1: two lefts. Okay, this is this is what I'm debating
Speaker 1: about Netflix. I don't personally like the fact that you
Speaker 1: can watch them all at one time because then it's done.
Speaker 1: Now you have to wait a year. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I used to do, great debate a month life right
Speaker 1: now gratification. But I want to be able to not
Speaker 1: have to. I don't want a bit because then it's
Speaker 1: like because you binged it all in the beginning, and
Speaker 1: then you kind of forgot like what had happened a
Speaker 1: year ago, which I think is why the advantage to binging,
Speaker 1: because I think if you drag that out, you'd be
Speaker 1: a little confused because you're like, what happens six weeks ago?
Speaker 1: But how how hot is Jason Bateman? I just so
Speaker 1: you're like, are you so hot for Jason Bateman? No.
Speaker 1: I saw Jason Bateman at the park and it's so
Speaker 1: funny because I don't get starstruck at all. But I'm
Speaker 1: the biggest Jason Bateman fan. I think he's funny. I
Speaker 1: think he can do everything. He's cute, like he's he's
Speaker 1: just awesome. I think he seems like an amazing person. Well,
Speaker 1: so he was. We live obviously in the same area,
Speaker 1: and I mean, and so he was walking. So I
Speaker 1: was playing with Jolie. She was on the slide, and
Speaker 1: he was walking down the which I'm called was that
Speaker 1: thing called sidewalk sidewalk, no sidewalk sidewalk, And he was
Speaker 1: just like walking by himself, like smiling, and I looked
Speaker 1: over and he like smiled, and I was like, and
Speaker 1: I immediately turned my head. And then I took a
Speaker 1: picture and sent it to Michael and are right. I
Speaker 1: didn't know what she was sending me a picture of
Speaker 1: because there's just some person a hundred feet way. I
Speaker 1: was like, are you showing me a tree? A bench? Like, like, no,
Speaker 1: that's Jason. I have nothing. I barely even see a
Speaker 1: person in this photot. But I was so excited and
Speaker 1: I'll never forget too because he does the Ellen Kershaw
Speaker 1: things and I saw him at the ping Pong thing
Speaker 1: last year with Clayton Kershaw at the ping pong event,
Speaker 1: and I mean I just stared. I just stared at
Speaker 1: I'm like a freaking creep. So I have a treat
Speaker 1: for you. What So I'm not wanting to like promote
Speaker 1: another podcast, and I'm going to Dak Shepherd has a
Speaker 1: podcast and he spent almost two hours with Jason Bateman
Speaker 1: and you know how you are not afraid to talk
Speaker 1: about poop. Yes, they do. Like a twenty maybe twenty
Speaker 1: five minute conversation about God. I was like laughing out
Speaker 1: loud tears the whole thing. To guys. I love that.
Speaker 1: I actually put I put him on the list of
Speaker 1: people I want to interview. I don't know if he
Speaker 1: would ever come on our little show, but he were
Speaker 1: from the same we're from Michigan. He's from Michigan too.
Speaker 1: We're all Metro Detro readers. Yeah, and he's he just
Speaker 1: celebrated his fourteen The thing I will tell you, maybe
Speaker 1: we could get a little closer to Jason Bateman. Justine
Speaker 1: Bateman has a new book coming out. I will promote it.
Speaker 1: I just I just love Jason and I just I
Speaker 1: just I think he's fantastic. You need to watch Ozark.
Speaker 1: Not even this is not even an ad for my podcast,
Speaker 1: but it's such a great show. You're welcome, honey, Well
Speaker 1: I am going to. I wish I would have known
Speaker 1: over that big holiday weekend because I was all by myself.
Speaker 1: I could have been like, I could have watched the
Speaker 1: entire sept It's just so good. I just I can't
Speaker 1: even like, I'll watch one tonight. It's one's I'll watch
Speaker 1: one on my Wednesday night. Okay, is it too early
Speaker 1: to talk about Halloween? No? Absolutely not. Halloween decorations in
Speaker 1: the trunk of my car right now. One of my
Speaker 1: least favorite holidays. I almost can say I wanted so
Speaker 1: much like my mother. My mom hates Halloween so much
Speaker 1: to the because she always said that I would change
Speaker 1: my costume. But I'm like, Mom, like it's whatever. I
Speaker 1: was a kid, but she hates Halloween. So I then
Speaker 1: always really didn't like Halloween because she hated Halloween. So
Speaker 1: I really couldn't have fun with it. But Michael loves Halloween. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: You remember. So Jane and I bought our house together
Speaker 1: in Nashville. The first house, we both were like, we
Speaker 1: hate Halloween. That's right, neither one of us. Remember who
Speaker 1: are you people. Let's just hear me out. Hear me out,
Speaker 1: hear me out. So we're like, you know what, we
Speaker 1: hate Halloween, So let's just let's do something just crazy,
Speaker 1: and let's have the best Halloween party ever, like the biggest,
Speaker 1: the best, like everything. And we did, and we went
Speaker 1: out and spent thousands of dollars on decorations. We started.
Speaker 1: The first week in September was draped with like sheets.
Speaker 1: We had like blood spatters, candles. Uh. Cost contest for
Speaker 1: best costumes. We had first, second, third prizes, we had bartenders.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean we did it up. And so
Speaker 1: since then we've grown to love Halloween a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Dress up like a couple. Okay, so well we did,
Speaker 1: We've done both times. So but this last Halloween was
Speaker 1: by far. Michael had the best costume of all. I
Speaker 1: have to I have to bring the photo up to it,
Speaker 1: but go ahead, you can, like you can tell her,
Speaker 1: but the photos just so, because I hate Halloween, I'm like,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to dress up, I have to have
Speaker 1: the best costume, like the one we did. When we
Speaker 1: had the party of the House. I bought like a
Speaker 1: six Batman costume. I could have been in the movie
Speaker 1: That's amazing. So I was a six ft six old
Speaker 1: off last year for Halloween, I ordered this costume straight
Speaker 1: from China, and oh my god, so we were so
Speaker 1: Jana Janna was also the Ice Queen. Naturally, how come
Speaker 1: tall because that the head was already six and then
Speaker 1: that thing's another foot above my head. It was us.
Speaker 1: So we go to this the streets into Luca Lake,
Speaker 1: which has a ton of tricker treaters. Kids are stopping
Speaker 1: me to take pictures. I mean he had a I
Speaker 1: literally had an agree. I felt like, Janna, that's true,
Speaker 1: charging legit me in great lines. So now I'm like,
Speaker 1: how do you beat the giant ole off? Like? So
Speaker 1: that's what we figure out, Like what what do we'd be?
Speaker 1: Because I like to do the couple of things, the
Speaker 1: family thing, to do the family thing. So if anyone
Speaker 1: has any suggestions, email us and yeah, Janna Kramer, I
Speaker 1: heart media dot com um soon because I need to
Speaker 1: find whatever it is. I need to find the best
Speaker 1: costume there is. I just I just got Rocco's costume
Speaker 1: in the mail. What is it going to be? He
Speaker 1: wants to be right now? He wants to be Pikachu.
Speaker 1: We usually go through like three or five costumes and
Speaker 1: then I don't know, that's normal, that's a normal thing
Speaker 1: to do. Change my mind. Okay, see mom, it's you
Speaker 1: just have to go with it because they're going to
Speaker 1: change their minds. Well, I mean my mom make constumes though,
Speaker 1: so she would actually at me. Yeah, but that's it
Speaker 1: was her choice she could have bought. Why did y'all
Speaker 1: originally hate it? Because my mom hated it, so I
Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to have fun with it. I love for kids.
Speaker 1: I love the decorations. I don't like adults and cost
Speaker 1: That's how That's how I always felt silly. I'm like costumes.
Speaker 1: Why it's like the one time a year you can
Speaker 1: dress up? Are all of you such an excuse to
Speaker 1: for women to just like, oh, I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I do not like to be a sunny. There is
Speaker 1: not a cost thank you. I do not like that,
Speaker 1: and I don't like girls that do that. I don't
Speaker 1: like it at all. I think it's like, okay, we
Speaker 1: get it, like you're trying to show if your body.
Speaker 1: You're trying to be like I'm a sexy made. Like
Speaker 1: be a little bit more creative than a sexy made.
Speaker 1: I'm aware every year, Oh did you like the word?
Speaker 1: It's no, it's like pretty pretty well, it's the one
Speaker 1: day a year I can really be myself. I love that.
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan. I love it for kids,
Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I will. You could not pay me
Speaker 1: enough money to put on a costume. It will not happen.
Speaker 1: Oh it's gonna happen. No, it will, Yeah, well happen.
Speaker 1: Well why because you think it's so? I don't like
Speaker 1: theme dressing in general, Like I don't like kind of
Speaker 1: I want to do that so bad, the Renaissance Festival.
Speaker 1: I want to dress up like one of those fairies
Speaker 1: and be like and Michael will be like those Michigan
Speaker 1: when people are in costume around me, like sometimes I
Speaker 1: do the I don't see you. I don't see you.
Speaker 1: I don't see you. I don't I don't like hearts
Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day. I don't like. Oh, a Christmas sweater
Speaker 1: just kills me. It's like even ugly Christmas water, all
Speaker 1: of it. I don't do theme dressing at all. So
Speaker 1: how wween is like that? To the one millionth degree?
Speaker 1: So and I just don't want someone talking to me
Speaker 1: with a mask on. Just put on a Santa Clause hat,
Speaker 1: would you? So? Gosh, I don't like that at all.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about Christmas? That's just the I'm starting
Speaker 1: that like many months span of holidays. I hate Halloween, Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: christ Why do you hate thanks in? New Year's Valentine's
Speaker 1: I don't really I will fight you on Thanksgiving? Why
Speaker 1: do you not like Thanksgiving? It's about giving thanks There's
Speaker 1: no presence there. That's my favorite. So much holiday, so
Speaker 1: much family fight and I'm like, let's just get a
Speaker 1: kid or kid or kidder and they're like, no, we
Speaker 1: gotta cook it. Yeah. I'm so exhausted from all this
Speaker 1: cooking and I'm just like, seriously, this is happening to me. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. Um, now that I know how much
Speaker 1: Amy hates said, I'm going to make sure that she
Speaker 1: has to put everything on. Are you better believe we're
Speaker 1: coming in here. I'm going to be a six or
Speaker 1: six turkey coming into her Thanksgivings for every occasion. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And we're going to have an outfit for her and
Speaker 1: she's going to have to wear it. And you're gonna
Speaker 1: get over this. Yeah. I know. Like my birthday, I
Speaker 1: don't like any of it. Halloween is so much fun.
Speaker 1: You could spider cupcakes, all the decorations, pumpkins, carving pap
Speaker 1: for kids. Totally into it for kids and adults. We
Speaker 1: need to help you and find your inner child. Michael,
Speaker 1: what do you think you want to be there for Halloween?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't care. I just have again,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, I have to have the most legit costume.
Speaker 1: If you want to be Power Rangers, I'm going to
Speaker 1: find someone at that studio who made the movie and
Speaker 1: get the real thing, Like I have to do it.
Speaker 1: That's the only way. That's the only way. I dressed
Speaker 1: up as if I have the best well, because I
Speaker 1: just wanted to be family themes. So again, if you
Speaker 1: guys have any ideas, Jane Kramer at heart Media dot com,
Speaker 1: and I'd like it to be family themes. So it
Speaker 1: needs so like last year obviously he was all off,
Speaker 1: I was Elsa and Jolie was on a So we
Speaker 1: need to like have it family themes, Yes, please Easton.
Speaker 1: My wife and I do a couple's costumes every year,
Speaker 1: and last year I was the man in the big
Speaker 1: yellow hat and uh, she was Curious George and our
Speaker 1: dog was a banana Canada. When year I was a fisherman,
Speaker 1: I had like a one tho the I know you
Speaker 1: did last summer guy at the raincoat with the beard
Speaker 1: and she was a mermaid. And one year I was
Speaker 1: a magician and she was a rabbit. I think this
Speaker 1: year we're going to do She's gonna be the hippo
Speaker 1: from Fantasia and I'm going to be a an alligator.
Speaker 1: Amy is throwing up in her mouth in her corner.
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Speaker 1: Can Yeah, I like, I like more of a manly candle,
Speaker 1: just like yeah, I like I like, Um, I just
Speaker 1: like more of a manly or so I don't like flowery.
Speaker 1: Can we unpack something that we talked about with Chris? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Unpack that's like the lame word. Let's curate this. Um.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about losing your virginity? Yeah, that seems
Speaker 1: like something we've never talked about. Old were you? I
Speaker 1: was sixteen? My boyfriend was fifteen? Oh younger man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was fourteen? Was fourteen? Yet less awkward as you
Speaker 1: get older, because it's like now it seems like no
Speaker 1: big deal, Like who cares talk about it? Right? Well,
Speaker 1: am Michael? How old are you? Sorry? Mom and dad?
Speaker 1: Did they not know that? Sometimes my mom doesn't listen
Speaker 1: for you? Fourteen? Oh my god? What boend? He was nineteen?
Speaker 1: He was in college. That was a freshman in high school.
Speaker 1: That seems like you'd need a note to, like a
Speaker 1: parental note. Yeah, it was illegal wait at four yeah,
Speaker 1: but at fourteen, so that just seems so young. I know,
Speaker 1: I mean she was uh I was a freshman. She
Speaker 1: was a junior. Wait you were twenty two when you
Speaker 1: lost region Nate? Why why wait so long? Who was high? Okay?
Speaker 1: Who was the guy? You want me to just name him?
Speaker 1: I'm not going to fret play. What does it rime
Speaker 1: with mine's waddy? Well, what's weird is he doesn't want
Speaker 1: we're still friends and he doesn't want to claim it,
Speaker 1: like he knows it was him, but there was sort
Speaker 1: of like maybe a half one before and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: what you have did they like go half in so
Speaker 1: um so okay, not not full throttle but likeable the
Speaker 1: but not like I think I messed around with somebody,
Speaker 1: um maybe a year before this person, and there was
Speaker 1: like it was close but not really And so then
Speaker 1: it was like kissing. No, like I'm not an idiot,
Speaker 1: Like it was like it was like almost maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I mean the thing was kissing
Speaker 1: the other thing. I don't know if scrip almost, So
Speaker 1: then it really did happen. And then obviously I talked
Speaker 1: about it with the person and he's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: that wasn't me. It was this one, Like he didn't
Speaker 1: want to know about the other person. Yea oh, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm very open with the boys with I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk about it. Mark, howled were you? I was fifteen
Speaker 1: and like Mike, she was two years older than I was.
Speaker 1: So young? Is there nobody that was ince like any
Speaker 1: day now, fingers crossed? Christmas is coming. I was seventeen,
Speaker 1: she was one, and it was my friends, your friends.
Speaker 1: I want to open the door and see if there's
Speaker 1: anybody that's not well. I will say that I have
Speaker 1: one girlfriend that is in her twenties that still hasn't
Speaker 1: lost her virginity because she is waiting. But um again,
Speaker 1: to me, I'm like, you know, that's and I have
Speaker 1: nothing against that. I think that's if that's what you
Speaker 1: want to do. I just personally think that I wish
Speaker 1: I would have waited a little longer. Now thinking about it,
Speaker 1: I mean I think, well, I mean, I will say
Speaker 1: this though he was my high school sweetheart, I loved him,
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't I have zero regrets about it.
Speaker 1: I will say that, But thinking back, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe we could have waited, like maybe another year or so.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but maybe not because we stayed together
Speaker 1: for three and a half four years. I like, I
Speaker 1: like that so sweet story. Yeah, but I mean if
Speaker 1: losing your virginity for to someone random like that would
Speaker 1: be I wouldn't have wanted that. I would say. I
Speaker 1: was like, if it's Jolie and she we were talking
Speaker 1: about this, I would say like, hey, you know, if
Speaker 1: you care about this person, that's who I think you
Speaker 1: should lose your virginity too, is what I would probably
Speaker 1: say to her. I don't want it to just be
Speaker 1: some random because you was your person random. Well, we
Speaker 1: were sort of dating. I mean he was in college.
Speaker 1: I was a freshman in high school. Freshman in college
Speaker 1: and the freshman in high school is a little creepy
Speaker 1: skied together that's what they call it then. But I mean,
Speaker 1: like here's Mike. Like it wasn't like a no, we're
Speaker 1: really good friends. Like we were like we were legitimate
Speaker 1: regret about not being with Debt. What was the high
Speaker 1: school sweetheart Trisia I was going to Debbie Trisha? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, um, not necessarily because it wasn't because to me,
Speaker 1: like I had the person I lost it with. Like
Speaker 1: we had a very close friendship, Like it was like
Speaker 1: friends with benefits, but we respected each other and we
Speaker 1: loved each other as friends. Um, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't regret it. Does anyone in the room regret it? No, no,
Speaker 1: because he was my high school sweetheart. If he if
Speaker 1: he was just a random hook up, and then I
Speaker 1: would have regretted it. I wouldn't say then I would
Speaker 1: have for sure regretted it wasn't like, well we got
Speaker 1: now soon afterwards. Yeah, my parents. Yeah, so it was
Speaker 1: Sadie Hawkins and Michael. Do you know the story? No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think I do that. No, no, No, it
Speaker 1: was a dance. It was Sadie Hawkins and so it
Speaker 1: was we were probably like a month into like being
Speaker 1: like sexual, and so we left the dance to go
Speaker 1: home because we name his parents were at the movies.
Speaker 1: So we go back to his house and you know,
Speaker 1: we started having sex or whatever, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the door opens and his dad saw me
Speaker 1: but naked. I run up stairs and I just start
Speaker 1: like bawling, crying. Where were you guys in the house.
Speaker 1: We were in the living room because we thought we
Speaker 1: could hear the garage open, but they didn't go through
Speaker 1: the garage, so they through. Like yeah, so so that
Speaker 1: happens and I'm still but as naked, like in the
Speaker 1: in the bathroom, bawling my eyes out. He comes and
Speaker 1: he's crying. He's naked, like I think he might might
Speaker 1: have put something like around him or whatever. Like we're
Speaker 1: just both crying, and his dad comes in. He goes
Speaker 1: go grab the rubber because he had left the gross.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're using protection. That's good, right, But then
Speaker 1: but then his mom rest in rest in peace because
Speaker 1: she was amazing. She unfortunately passed away because the breast cancer.
Speaker 1: But she, um, she goes, you have twenty four hours
Speaker 1: to tell your mother. And I was just like so man,
Speaker 1: so sweating, like I just remember driving home, like just
Speaker 1: like sweating and fallowing my eyes out. So I go
Speaker 1: home and I draft this like epic novel, like this
Speaker 1: is no like mom. So I lied to her in
Speaker 1: the letter. Sorry, Mom, I know you listen, but I
Speaker 1: lied to her and I said, this is my first
Speaker 1: time ever having sex. Please, I'm so sorry, Like that
Speaker 1: wasn't And I said we were a month into being
Speaker 1: sexually active when we got caught. Yeah, so um, I
Speaker 1: wrote it. I was like, Mom, I'm so sorry, like
Speaker 1: this is the first time that we had sex and
Speaker 1: you know, um mrs and Mr whatever caught us having sex,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm so sorry, I'm so ashamed and
Speaker 1: da da da dada. And what I did was and
Speaker 1: she was in her room and I slid it underneath
Speaker 1: the door and then I ran back in my room.
Speaker 1: Was like, mom, you haven't known at anither door, classic
Speaker 1: me just to run away. So then I'm in my
Speaker 1: room and she like knocks on my door and she
Speaker 1: was like, do we need to get you on birth control?
Speaker 1: And I was like, that was like the last thing
Speaker 1: I thought she would say to me. I thought I
Speaker 1: was gonna be like grounded for weeks. But she was like,
Speaker 1: let's talk about birth control. And I think she was
Speaker 1: doing good mom job there. But this is why I
Speaker 1: think people should wait till college. Like this should not
Speaker 1: be happening in high school. I say, I disagree that
Speaker 1: if it's a relationship though, you know, not even that,
Speaker 1: but I feel like in college you might be more
Speaker 1: susceptible to the drunk, regretful. Yes, exactly, it's the high school.
Speaker 1: It's like you're fooling around, like trying to figure this out.
Speaker 1: One point, that's an excellent point. Yeah, that is very
Speaker 1: true because if not, yeah, you're going to be drunk
Speaker 1: at some party. It's like whatever, I'm drunk, I'm going
Speaker 1: to sleep with Joe schmo Is. The number is still
Speaker 1: a thing, like do do people still count how many
Speaker 1: people they've left with? My number is so extraordinarily low. Really,
Speaker 1: oh it's so low. We don't. We don't. Michael and
Speaker 1: I have never shared a number because we probably don't
Speaker 1: know how many? Is that? Like? Yeah? I was like exclusive, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't know their number. We we from the very
Speaker 1: beginning of us stating we agreed, We're like, yeah, people
Speaker 1: ask like that in a day. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Since it's I mean, we twenties. I wanted to know
Speaker 1: people's like numbers and stuff with them when I just
Speaker 1: started to have fun in l A and I just
Speaker 1: told somebody like I don't want to know. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: rather not. I mean, now we know, we know, you
Speaker 1: know stuff, but I mean it is what is. But
Speaker 1: I would love to hear um losing your Virginia stories
Speaker 1: if you have regrets, Yeah, when did you marry him?
Speaker 1: Did you did you marry the guy who lost Virginia?
Speaker 1: Which which you know. That's another interesting thing because I'm
Speaker 1: like when you kind of want to, like, I have
Speaker 1: a lot of friends who numbers too, numbers five. I'll
Speaker 1: just tell you, guys, I'm hoping for six. Any second
Speaker 1: I'm working on he's working on the other hand. But
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people to because there's the
Speaker 1: first person and then they married the second. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: well not everyone had a fun twenty Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what's bad is like my first when you tell me
Speaker 1: that your story, my first intuition is thinking about Jolie
Speaker 1: and then our son right and putting them both in
Speaker 1: that scenario. How I would react. And if if it
Speaker 1: was our son and it was like came home and
Speaker 1: it was a girl that he was seeing or whatever
Speaker 1: and they were having sex, yes, I would be I
Speaker 1: don't know how I would react, but I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: five them or anything. It wouldn't be like that. But
Speaker 1: I would just be like, what the protection are you smart?
Speaker 1: If I if we came home and Jolie and some
Speaker 1: guy got up off of her and was like running away,
Speaker 1: I would chase that mother effort down and just like
Speaker 1: the difference that girl, because there's my baby girl. If
Speaker 1: I saw some dude on top of her, like and
Speaker 1: I come in. I don't know, I'll just react, I like,
Speaker 1: you come here. But if it's like you know her
Speaker 1: high school, he's high school sweetheart shoes who she's in
Speaker 1: love with, and like you know that you know Alex,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, this is his name, and there
Speaker 1: would be my reaction wouldn't be as extreme. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I would physically harm the person either way.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying i'd be like, get the out of here.
Speaker 1: I think that's every dad's worst nightmare. And I don't
Speaker 1: think any dad should have to walk into that. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so at all. And I hope that
Speaker 1: Julie is open enough to be able to tell us
Speaker 1: like when she is starting to be I mean, I
Speaker 1: know your brother isn't that starting age of sexually activeness
Speaker 1: and how to talk to your parents and stuff. But
Speaker 1: it's you have to you want them to come to you.
Speaker 1: But it's also that awkward, like god, like my little
Speaker 1: baby is now having sex. I mean, just what else
Speaker 1: telling you about the other day thinking about my brother
Speaker 1: who's seventeen, who because there's a fourteen year difference, I
Speaker 1: still look at him as like my little man, right,
Speaker 1: and we're driving home, you know, when we're back in
Speaker 1: Virginia together, and I started asking these questions because I've
Speaker 1: been uncomfortable to even bringing up with him. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: he said, he's about to be eighteen years old in December. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what was I doing when I was eighteen
Speaker 1: years old? I was like, he's doing something. I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't be a naive anymore. He's not just like
Speaker 1: my innocent little man anymore. So it's just weird to
Speaker 1: like have that conversation with him. I know. Well, I
Speaker 1: would love to hear people's stories. Um, yeah, if you
Speaker 1: have any regrets about losing your virginity, if you married
Speaker 1: the person, you know your number? You want to tell
Speaker 1: me your number? Tell me your number. Janna Kraner and
Speaker 1: i heeart Media dot Com. I would love to, you know,
Speaker 1: to listen to the Confessions Confessions of Virginity. He's listening.
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Speaker 1: and she says, my husband and I've been married for
Speaker 1: four years. We have two sons. I've never really been
Speaker 1: too concerned about him cheating because he's genuinely a good
Speaker 1: guy and has never given me a reason to doubt
Speaker 1: that he had bad judgment. A few years ago, he
Speaker 1: went to a strip club for a friends bachelor party
Speaker 1: right after I gave birth to our first son. I
Speaker 1: was open with how I felt. I thought he learned
Speaker 1: from that. He knows I'm very easily jealous and very
Speaker 1: insecure about my body. A couple of months ago, he
Speaker 1: got a vasectomy, and long story short, to get off,
Speaker 1: he searched Google for pictures to look at. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what that has to do with the vasectomy necessarily,
Speaker 1: but maybe she thinks the surgery somehow affected I've had
Speaker 1: that surgery is fine, well for you, but maybe okay,
Speaker 1: I guess his penis doctor made a mistake. Anyway, that's
Speaker 1: extremely confusing. So what her point is, and this is
Speaker 1: kind of sad, the pictures worked and what she has
Speaker 1: to offer didn't is what she's saying. She says, I
Speaker 1: feel like he cheated even though I know he felt
Speaker 1: pressured to perform. I feel like he has betrayed me.
Speaker 1: I found out about it on his phone. I just
Speaker 1: can't get over it. I've had two babies in two years.
Speaker 1: I'm still breastfeeding. I don't want to look at me.
Speaker 1: I feel like my boobs an't as big as the
Speaker 1: pictures he saw or I'm not his tan. Am I
Speaker 1: wrong to feel like I've been cheated on? Should I
Speaker 1: be okay with this? Because some people would say this
Speaker 1: is a normal guy thing. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: It makes me hate myself. Thank you for your time
Speaker 1: reading this. Did I write that email? I think it's
Speaker 1: a Jenna, but it was really like I I probably
Speaker 1: wrote the email in there. Now that's hard. I mean
Speaker 1: we've kind of talked about this in a relationship to
Speaker 1: where it's like for us personally, it's just we feel
Speaker 1: like that's it was a way of taking away romance
Speaker 1: from our relationship. And um, I think he just she
Speaker 1: just has to be open and honest with him and
Speaker 1: how that makes her feel because I I do the
Speaker 1: same thing where if you know, I know Michael's looking
Speaker 1: at something and it's like, man, I'm comparing myself to like, well,
Speaker 1: they've look they've got bigger moves than me, and they
Speaker 1: look prettier than me, and they're blood or whatever, and like,
Speaker 1: I can't get you off, but she can. Like that's
Speaker 1: a that's a really hard thing to like swallow and
Speaker 1: for a woman to like not feel like they're wanted
Speaker 1: by their like guy. So I think if she can
Speaker 1: try to be honest about it. Um, And I think
Speaker 1: it sucks in this day age because so many men
Speaker 1: are like whatever, It's just it's what guys do. We
Speaker 1: watch more when we look at pictures like and I
Speaker 1: don't think that's fair for the relationship personally. Yeah, um yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a tough subject. And that's something that you know,
Speaker 1: Jan and I have dealt with firsthand over the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. And because of all that, because of
Speaker 1: what we've been through, Man, this went from happy, go
Speaker 1: lucky to like deep stuff. Thanks Mark, it's great. It's
Speaker 1: a good email. Um no, at least for for Jana
Speaker 1: and ized beliefs and and my strong beliefs. Now, I
Speaker 1: don't I think that whole it's a guy thing is
Speaker 1: an overplayed excuse, and that's what it is, is an
Speaker 1: excuse nowadays. And you know, I read something this is
Speaker 1: years ago too um about Terry Crews, you know, the
Speaker 1: actor Terry Crewise, And in an article he was talking
Speaker 1: about how he stopped like watching porn and he stopped
Speaker 1: looking at any of that kind of stuff because he
Speaker 1: realized and felt like it took away from his marriage.
Speaker 1: And you know I read that. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: that kind of started to resonate with me. And I still,
Speaker 1: you know, had my issues on even away from that stuff,
Speaker 1: because it becomes habit from n because you know, masturbation
Speaker 1: or porner and all that stuff is becomes a habit,
Speaker 1: and it's like one of those things that dads might
Speaker 1: talk to their sons about, Hey, this is a natural thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a natural thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure that out. But you know, I
Speaker 1: will be an advocate to say that I don't think
Speaker 1: that excuse can be played anymore. I think she definitely
Speaker 1: has the right to go to him and be like, look,
Speaker 1: this is how it makes me feel. I know it's
Speaker 1: not physically cheating. I know it's not physically acting out,
Speaker 1: but it's still emotionally can affect me the same way,
Speaker 1: and that's something he has to listen to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and totally to that point as well as you know,
Speaker 1: just how an an addiction starts. If he's starting to
Speaker 1: look at that, he's maybe like, oh, maybe this isn't
Speaker 1: doing enough for me, but now maybe going to find
Speaker 1: this girl in that bar might not give me that
Speaker 1: high maybe sense timely, and that's that's where the whole
Speaker 1: you know, addiction could come in. And that's that's a
Speaker 1: that's scary. So I think it's important and I hate
Speaker 1: like kind of like I said, I don't like that
Speaker 1: stereotype that it's what guys guy talk, guys look at
Speaker 1: it's it's funny, it's this and that. I was the
Speaker 1: stereotype of that for so many years. For so many years,
Speaker 1: I was that guy. And just now from the outside
Speaker 1: looking in, it's just it's not healthy. Do you think
Speaker 1: it could be up to the couple, Like, sure, they
Speaker 1: can totally be subjective based on a couple. I know
Speaker 1: we've mentioned that too on here too, where there there's
Speaker 1: couples that do that together and that works for them,
Speaker 1: and that is awesome that's totally fine. There's comfortable. There's
Speaker 1: there's men out there that can have guy talk and
Speaker 1: look at that stuff and did not affect them in
Speaker 1: any way, not affect their relationship. That's great. I just
Speaker 1: want men and couples like these two to be aware
Speaker 1: that it can affect a relationship and just to be
Speaker 1: open and honest about and not like a hidden thing too,
Speaker 1: where it's you know, where she does have to see
Speaker 1: that she's looking at a porn side, he's looking somewhere whatever,
Speaker 1: and vice versa, even if the girl, I don't know
Speaker 1: if the girls too, but I have a question, honey,
Speaker 1: answer if say, the same situation is happening, but he
Speaker 1: has no issue in the bedroom, he's active, he gives
Speaker 1: her attention to all that stuff, but she still maybe
Speaker 1: just has an issue with it for whatever reason. But
Speaker 1: it's not she doesn't feel like it's taken away from
Speaker 1: or there doesn't seem to be anything on paper that's
Speaker 1: taken away from the relationship. What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: If it still makes her uncomfortable, then that's then that's
Speaker 1: still something that she has to speak on, because I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a hundred percent makes it worse when they're not
Speaker 1: getting off with her, but getting off with the internet.
Speaker 1: That's hurtful. But if he's fine, like you said, in
Speaker 1: the bedroom, but it still bothers her, then that's something
Speaker 1: that she's still needs to address. It has to be
Speaker 1: on the same page. Yeah, I mean for me, honestly,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't. I mean, obviously minus our situation. But like
Speaker 1: if I was in a relationship and that was the
Speaker 1: case and it was fine in the bedroom, and you know,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't care if the person was
Speaker 1: watching it as well, because he's not taking away from
Speaker 1: our our time to well, that's the point, right. We
Speaker 1: get a lot of emails thing is this normal? And
Speaker 1: there is no normal everybody that's your thing, there is.
Speaker 1: You have to establish your own guidelines there and respect
Speaker 1: each other's. Yeah, And I also want to say, and
Speaker 1: maybe you can back me up, Mike as a guy, Oh,
Speaker 1: here goes, we're not comparing you. And I know that's
Speaker 1: hard for you to believe. And whether it's porn or
Speaker 1: it's any movie, or it's somebody on the beach or
Speaker 1: somebody walking by in the street in a short skirt,
Speaker 1: we're not comparing you. There is none of that, right,
Speaker 1: But when you are off to a big breasted woman
Speaker 1: and yet you can't get off with me, and that
Speaker 1: is like that is that to us? You could still
Speaker 1: say it's not about you. Well that person looks different
Speaker 1: than me, so that sucks all right. Well, today it
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