WEBVTT - Ep. 18 Will You Accept This Rosé? 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.240 Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I heard radio podcast. 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:10.719 I'm so excited to wind down today. I'm I'm pumped. 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.400 Why you're not excited, but I'm so excited. No, I'm excited. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.119 But I have a confession. I have a confession. I 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:26.320 have never watched Are you ready for this? The Bachelor? 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:33.640 I have tried, but I've never watched. Why I just 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:37.360 call me watch sticking it to the man. I think 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:39.800 part of my problem is I worked in daytime TV 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.440 too long. Yeah, I really do. I mean, is it 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.000 just like the people like the like the actual like 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.960 The Bachelor or the girls, or like who bothers you? 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.760 Who bothers you more? The girls? Or the nobody bothers 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.800 me at all? Nobody bothers me because I just don't 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.440 watch it. But you know what the thing is is 0:01:01.880 --> 0:01:05.720 I love scripted TV. Do you think The Bachelor scripted? 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:15.360 Scripted with with a storyline like crime or Okay, you 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.800 don't like like like Sharper objects like she's drinking vodka 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.080 all day? Like that's interesting to me. Well, although they're drinking. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.680 They're drinking vodka all day too, they are and then 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.000 falling into a pool. But I'm just so excited because 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.640 I've I've watched most of the Bachelor, Bachelotte series or 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:33.280 something that I haven't watched this because I couldn't either 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.040 stand the guy or the girl. 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Visit my lola dot com 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.079 and entered Janna when you subscribe, that's my Lola dot 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.520 com and use promo code Janna to get off all 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:20.519 subscriptions my Lola dot com promo code Janna Christopher, Hello, Hi, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:26.360 I love you. You know I love you. What a 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:29.680 great way to start a conversation. Right, you guys, we 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:33.360 have Chris Harrison on the phone, and I like the 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:36.960 the the Chris Harrison. Hey, Chris, you're in studio with me, 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:42.640 Jen and my husband. Hi. Hello, Hello everybody Hello, counts 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:46.160 that are out there. I mean, the better not be 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:47.920 a fake, this better be there was better to be 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:49.640 the real Chris, because we want to we want to 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:52.440 ask you like all the all the goods. Um. Jen 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.480 has never watched a Bachelor episode, like ever. I will 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:01.920 excuse her from the show. I do love you never 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.600 He's never watched it ever. It's been on for seventeen years. 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:12.120 It's seventeen years. Yes, seventeen years. You've seen a show 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.160 it's been It has been on the air as long 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:19.240 as I was married. Wow. Yes, well we all make mistakes, 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.640 Um yeah, No. I have my son and all ferousness 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.279 was six weeks old when I got a job. He 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.000 is now a junior in high school. So when he walked, 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:30.720 you know, of course, that's a lot of the people 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.280 have been around for you know, ten, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.640 years on the show, and so when they knew my 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.880 kids babies, and then they walk on set and he's 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:41.880 six ft one and Big Old Junior and Night School. 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:43.920 It's crazy to think that's how long we've been doing this. 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.839 Did you think, like when you got that gig as 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.760 you know, the host, did you think that it would 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.240 have this longevity that it has? No never you know, 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:56.159 you can't possibly think that in television if you're niver stupid, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:58.880 because you just never know what's going to resonate and 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:01.839 what's going to catch Because at the time, the Survivor 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.600 had just started, so the whole reality thing really hadn't 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.600 even thought fire yet. It was also new, and this 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.080 concept was completely foreign and new, and so it was 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.000 you know, you never know what's going to catch it. 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.240 And by the way, not only will it catch and 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.680 it was huge for such a long time. But you 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:20.279 know why it still resonates and why it continues to 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:24.359 draw and an audience younger and younger, is you know, 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:28.040 it goes against kind of all convention of conventional wisdom 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.719 and television. Why is that, Chris? Why do you think 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.680 this has been able to last so long? Besides you 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.800 being the host? Of course, there's only one content, So 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:38.960 I would leave. I would tell my agent to sell 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:42.800 the network. I think it's about and take it a 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.360 little cheesy. It's about that one thing that we can 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:49.400 all relate to everyone under. Yeah, it is. It's companionship 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.200 love no matter where I travel in the world, where 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:53.480 you guys go, you know, it's the one thing that 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.760 kind of connects as ault. We all get it. And 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.440 the other thing is the show remains fresh because of 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.799 the bat. Isn't that direct that we have? And so 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.560 you know, the back if we had kept going with Trista, 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.640 for example, who I love from sixteen seventeen years ago 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:10.920 and she was the only one that we've ever had, 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:12.960 well she's and I don't I don't mean to out her, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.840 but she's in her forties now and she probably wouldn't 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.400 be considered as cool to the college kids, to the 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.760 high school kids. But instead it's this new crop of back. 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:25.080 Doesn't that tourette right? Who's your favorite bacherette of all 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.359 of them? Can you say that or not? You can't 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.080 do that to me. I can ask you anything I want. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.919 I know, it's like who's your favorite child? Well, but 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:37.359 you know I would go back, honestly just to you know, 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:41.080 like a Trista, just because life changed so much, and 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.320 it wouldn't just be because of Trista. But because of 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:45.840 how my life changed and the show was changing, and 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.000 and and so much happened during all that time that 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.080 you know, it's not that I'm not grateful now, but 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.640 it was just a crazy experience to be a part 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.400 of back that Chris, what is that conversation like when 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:00.480 your son comes to you one day and says, ad, 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:04.480 I want to be the next Bachelor. I think for him, 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.599 I'll never have to worry about it. I could possibly 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:12.360 see my daughter, Taylor, who was fourteen, who was born 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:17.040 two years into speaking of like things where I remember, um, Meredith, 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.760 season of the Back Trette was wrapping up and we 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:22.480 were just about to go out to the desert and 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:26.480 go to Trista's wedding, and that's when Taylor was born. Um, 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:28.760 so it's amazing that you know, my kids have grown 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.680 up in this. So I could see my I could 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.600 see my daughter doing it, and honestly, if she wanted 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:37.240 to good honor, just remember Dad's always watching. I mean 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:38.800 that's got to be hard for you though, as like 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.720 a dad, to like see some of these girls and 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.360 then you think about your daughter. Yeah, it's just I mean, 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.200 that's gotta be that's gotta be tough for you. I mean, 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.320 do they really kind of look at you as someone 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.840 that they can like a confidante on the show. Yeah, 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:53.559 well then that's the kind of what I've grown into. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.840 It's you know, my role has definitely changed over the years. Sure, Um, 0:07:58.000 --> 0:07:59.880 you know I started out really is just the whole 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:02.920 and reading whatever lines they kind of put in front 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.760 of me, and we're all making it up as we went. Now, 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.080 obviously I've been around for seventeen years. I helped produce 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.160 the show. I know it, you know, as good. It's 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.280 not better than anybody else working on the show now, 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.440 and so it definitely has changed. And you've earned that 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:19.560 respect with experience and time. So it's definitely evolved over 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:22.880 the years. But you know, the funny aspect with my 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:27.320 daughter is the conversation that it has kind of opened up. 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.080 You know, she's at that age, she's fourteen, where dad 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.480 wants to have conversations with his daughter, but it's hard 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.200 because it's awkward and weird. But the Bachelor's kind of 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:39.800 opened some of those doors to having some pretty difficult conversations. 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:42.360 I will use the show We'll be watching and I'll say, Okay, 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:43.560 what do you, what do you think of what she 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.320 just did there? What do you think of that guy 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:47.679 and how he's acting? And it's fun to kind of 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:52.000 allow her to talk about it, and she didn't really 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.760 realize conversation. Yeah, we're a good way to use that 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.920 tool to open up the door. Chris, with your role 0:08:58.000 --> 0:08:59.480 kind of being more of a mentor now in these 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.160 later see s. I mean, do you really find yourself 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:05.560 pulling contestants aside and being like, hey man, stop being 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.320 a douchebag. Or do do you encourage I mean, not 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:10.320 encourage it, but you just let it happen because it 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.520 adds to the show. I usually use stronger language than that. 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.200 I'm sure you do. I'm sure you do. You know, 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.000 it's a little bit of both. There is that fine line, 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:20.440 if I get it, where we're creating television. But at 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.760 the same time, these argument beings and I do care 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.880 about most of them, not all of them, but most 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.480 of them, and you you do want to help them, 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.160 especially when they are back or back Torett. I feel 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:32.600 that they are kind of under my care. It's almost 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.720 like a coach, you know, taking a kid to college. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.280 You feel responsible for those kids. Um, you know when 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.880 that is the back toorette. You try and help her 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:43.680 avoid some of the pitfalls. Um, you know, I have to, 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:46.960 you know, have hands off a little bit because we 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.360 are creating a show and you want her to really 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.160 experience some of these situations. You can't prepare for everything. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.120 But um, yeah, there is a certain sense of you know, 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.439 whether I would like to say it's an older friend 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.280 more than just a dad because that makes me feel 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:04.720 really old. But I just I love that. But I 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.160 gotta say I do not agree with the Bachelor choice 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:12.440 that they've just made with Colton. I just don't. I don't. Well, first, 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.720 You're not the only one I've seen that I've I've looked, 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.600 you know, I've looked into it a little bit about 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.720 the kind of backlash for me though, I'm like, don't 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:23.800 you want to test drive before you buy the car? 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.920 Like you're you're talking about a whole different issue. First 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:33.200 of all, I don't know which is great. I'm not 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.120 trying to say like virgins aren't like whatever, but for 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:36.959 me personally, like I'd be like, no, I don't want 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:38.920 to go on the show because I have to. I 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.160 think sex is such a big I mean, if what 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.840 if he sucks at in bed and then you have 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.560 to be married. I mean right, and you you, I 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:51.480 mean he's gonna lose gusto in the second and it's like, 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.600 you know what I mean, like what if he doesn't know? 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.160 And it's like then now you're now you're going to 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.040 be married to that. But as a woman, you could 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:01.320 be opportunistic. But I can mold him, but sometimes you can't. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.719 You can't. I've tried to mold like bad kissers. If 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.760 you are a bad kisser, you are bad. If you 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:09.880 are bad at sex, you aren't bad. You're also you're 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.200 you're opening a lot of different topics because I agree 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.200 if you and it's not necessarily batist, but it's someone 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.599 who doesn't blend with you if you don't have that 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.560 chemistry when you're kidding. I'm a I'm a firm believer 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.680 that just just cut the cord. You're done, done done, 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:29.439 You're done done. You're not that there's something dramatically off 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.040 now true, But what are they going to do in 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.280 the in the overnights? Are they just gonna hold hands? 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.880 I like, what if we watch him lose his virginia? 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:39.280 Lose it? Like I don't mean to be a creeper. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:43.920 But I'll watch that and just want to watch I'll 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:48.439 watch that. Well, then maybe maybe you just reaffirmed our choice. 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.120 I just feel like I will say this, like I'm 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.720 not trying to talk bad about him. I met him. 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:54.880 He came in the studio because he was he was 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.280 doing another podcast with Ben, and he just seems like 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.720 a baby to me. He's even like his face like 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.200 he's just a he seems very sweet. I think he 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.880 I know he does a lot of good things in 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:12.360 the community, but she just doesn't seem like a man 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:18.040 to me. Well, I didn't you just I just I 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.400 watched him on the BECA. He's not like he's not 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.600 a man like Garrett was a man like Garrett like, 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.440 and Colton was like just like he hasn't he doesn't 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.320 have the life experience, Like who wants to be with 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:30.199 someone that wants to like not have those life experiences 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.920 and like have been in relationships and done those things. 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:34.880 I don't know. That's just me, But good luck to 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.680 the women I'm with you. Look, I'm of a certain age. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:43.920 I don't want to date a virgin. Yeah, if you 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:48.599 dated a virgin, we'd have major problems with you'd be 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:53.280 dating the four year old virgin. There's a large misnomer 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.679 out there. Uh, and feel free to back me up 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.720 in there that you know guys like, well, that would 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.400 be a dream to date a virgin. Like, no, it's not. 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:05.160 There's there's a home list of complications that comes along 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:07.120 with that. But I think Michael, you could speak to 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:08.640 this part where it's like, you know, he did say 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:10.440 on the show too, where he felt like he had 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.440 to like be like, yeah, I'm bang in all these 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.920 chicks because that's like what locker room talk, and that's 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.120 like that's not who he was. But he felt like 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.360 in that lifestyle of football, like he felt like he 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.360 had to like have that he might meet some he 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.600 might meet a woman, hopefully he will on the show 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.520 that is also a virgin. I know I know one 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.360 virgin and I love you because I know she listens. 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:35.360 I'm not going to say her name, but she's in 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.840 her early twenties, she's waiting until marriage. She's that's okay, 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.800 that's great, But what is what is the reasoning? Yeah, 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.720 you know, is it religion? Is it an issue from 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:49.319 your childhood? Their trauma? There? 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Oh my god, 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:49.280 I thought radio silence. Wow, no answer your question. You know, 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.920 we were married. I met my wife back in college. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.640 We were old childhood sweethearts, and you know, we met 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.800 we were eighteen years old and got married very young. 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.320 So she grew up around the show, and she traveled, 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.400 you know, expectly. Again we had young kids, and so yeah, 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:03.920 they would often come with me when we were in 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.400 Italy or France or whatever, and she was there a lot. 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:08.840 And you know, when you were around this business, you know, 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:11.560 like cuntry music or anything else, you realize it's not 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:17.320 nearly as glamorous as everyone makes it seem. Obviously, Yeah, 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:20.080 but they'd be crazy not to start with me. I 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:24.120 think that's what you were getting at. So do you 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.160 kind of now that you're like single? Do you when 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:28.880 you know this next season it's like, are you kind 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.680 of like taking your picks too? For yourself? I always 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.440 I tell the Batlors, I'm like, Okay, she's off limits. 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.880 She's off limits, but everybody else, you know, I just 0:16:38.960 --> 0:16:41.600 I still limital stuff. Was like, man, she really just 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:46.800 seems like a bit You're not you would saying some 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:53.480 stuff behind your back? You bet there? That's amazing, Chris. 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.520 Do you you know you've been doing this for so 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.080 long and you've watched all of these people fall in 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.800 love or not fall in love. Are you do you 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.480 go into a season intuitively, like with the gut feeling 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.800 you're like, oh, so and So's they're going to be 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.960 at like that? Not you know, not anymore, just because 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.280 I realized how bad I am at that and and my, my, 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:20.199 my women's intuition is must be really bad because you know, 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.280 you think night one would you would have a pretty 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.680 good idea, um, and I will stay for the Bachelorette. 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.200 It's a little bit sometimes. I was going to say 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.160 it's I think it's easier too for the bat because 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.399 I knew day one, I was like Garrett so one, like, 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.880 even before I read the reality Steve and all those 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.800 like spoilers, I was like, I know, and even if 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.119 Garrett isn't like the one, I knew he was going 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.879 to be Top four. Yeah. Same thing with Blake, And 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:47.760 there's just certain guys that really peak early. With the Bator, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:49.680 it's a little bit different, a little bit harder to 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.480 break down. And again there's always that one or two 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.680 that will kind of you know they're gonna be around. 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.960 But I think the potential for a dark horse is 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:02.119 a lot higher for in the Bachelor. Michael was going 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:06.800 to be on the Bachelor, But the Bachelorette, I think 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:11.320 it's Emily season. Yeah, yeah, I was. I was still 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.359 in the NFL and playing for Buffalo, and you would 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.480 have been what his face this past season, where you like, 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.800 what was his name in the first Yeah. No, no, 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:23.360 the other football player who actually got hurt playing fall. Yeah, 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.600 I know. I direct message Becca after that, I go, 0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:30.320 were you really that sad that he left? I felt. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.280 I just felt so bad for him. We're having this 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:35.560 twof around football game, and you know the guy I 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.280 think it's you know, he's one of those guys and Michael, 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.240 you know, it's it's so hard to give it up 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.280 and lea even even when you kind of deep down 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:44.359 you know it's done, and trying to hold on for 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.600 one or two more seasons, and then he gets hurt 0:18:46.680 --> 0:18:49.639 where I'm just like, oh God, Like on the Bachelor, 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.919 that's what ended it. Yeah, how did how did you 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:56.639 get hurt on the Bachelorette? Yeah? But you did. You 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.240 did your interviews and stuff, didn't you. Yeah? I did. 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.760 I don't remember one of the casting producer, whoever it 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.720 was that I met with, I can't remember her name 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.000 right now. But yeah. We had a game actually, we're 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:10.600 playing the Chargers and came out here because it's West Coast, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.639 came we came in day early, and they came to 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:14.600 the hotel we were staying at San Diego and took 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.120 like still shots they're like an on camera interview, and 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.480 I was good to go. During the off season, even 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:24.000 the words spread quick throughout the team and organization where 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:26.520 even had my coaches coming up to me like being 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.639 all excited about it. And uh, I ultimately tore my 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.040 a c l at the end of that season, so 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.680 I kind of decided not to And my offensive coordinator 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:36.159 at the time came up to me, He's like, hey, man, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.439 I'm really sorry you got hurt. I hope you're doing okay, 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.080 but uh, I just want to know are you still 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.639 going to do the Bachelorette. But that literally came out 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.760 of my offensive coordinator's mouth, and I was like, I 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:49.639 don't know, probably not. They all wanted to buy Curious 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:55.720 loop through you knowing what you know now thinking back, 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.439 do you regret any decisions are not being on the 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.399 bat to arette. I don't think Emily would have been 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:07.440 your girl anyway. No, I don't like bonds anyway. But 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:09.880 you would have been competitive and like wanted to be 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.959 the winner. I think. I think that's what a lot 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:13.800 of the contestants just would have been, like, Oh, he's 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:20.800 gonna be a top four. I'm very confident in that. Wow. No, 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:22.399 but I mean even if I think if I was, 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:24.600 because I've thought about it, Like when I was single, 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.800 I thought about maybe like you know, either trying like 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:30.960 I don't know, or just trying to be like one 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:33.720 of the girls on the show. But I think I'm 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.600 so competitive where I would even if I didn't like 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.080 the guy. I mean, like there's been so many Bachelor's 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.320