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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so

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Speaker 1: much for tuning in. Sorry, we're still kicking the gears

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Speaker 1: the landing gear on twenty twenty six. Let's hear it

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Speaker 1: for our super producer, mister Max Zoom Zoom Williams Zoo.

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Speaker 2: That's what you do when the plane ain't working, right,

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Speaker 2: You just give it a good kick.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and raise the nose up. That's what you should

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Speaker 3: always do. Just raise the nose up. That won't cause

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Speaker 3: any problems.

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Speaker 2: But don't forget down on the stick means up. Up

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Speaker 2: on the stick means down key key ingredients. You guys

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Speaker 2: know my flight instructor, Yeah, I played that game too.

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Speaker 1: That is none other than the legendary, the one and only,

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Speaker 1: the mythical mister Noel Brown.

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Speaker 2: In his own mind, it is I, and for all of.

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Speaker 1: Us they call me Ben Bullet. In this neck of

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Speaker 1: the woods, we love planes, Noel.

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Speaker 2: Love. Yeah, Okay, you know what love hate? Right, because

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Speaker 2: maybe with commercial flying it ain't always the best experience, right.

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Speaker 2: You don't love what plan represents? What they accomplish for

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Speaker 2: us in terms of moving us to far flung lands,

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Speaker 2: and also just the tech of it all. It's fascinating

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Speaker 2: that we are able to zoom around in these like

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Speaker 2: air tubes and somehow managed to walk out the other

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Speaker 2: side on the skates.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, well you think I think if you're I think

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Speaker 1: you can agree with this. My understanding of your perspective

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Speaker 1: on planes is that you like it when we're traveling well,

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Speaker 1: but you hate the process of getting on.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's a bummer. I mean, there's no two ways

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Speaker 2: about it, you know, going through security, all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: I will say that you know, with some experience comes

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Speaker 2: a certain order of operations that limits the stress of

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Speaker 2: doing those things. Where a way though, certain ways you pack,

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Speaker 2: certain ways you dress, knowing exactly what kind of window

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Speaker 2: you need to allow yourself so you're not freaking out

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Speaker 2: because there's nothing worse. And it's only happened to me

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Speaker 2: once in honestly my adult life, where you're in that

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Speaker 2: line and it's not moving like you think it should

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Speaker 2: is about to expire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we've all been there.

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Speaker 2: That's why.

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Speaker 1: That's why I peek behind the curtain, folks. Uh By

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Speaker 1: Palal Nole and I one time we got a real

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Speaker 1: dander up and we were we were doing something live

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Speaker 1: in a couple of different cities, and we pushed so

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Speaker 1: hard to travel by train, and they said, no, guys,

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Speaker 2: That's true. I think logistically it might have even been

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Speaker 2: or costwise it might have actually been more expensive in

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Speaker 2: the region that we were in to do the train travel.

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Speaker 2: But we also really love train travel. We love the planes,

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Speaker 2: the trains and the automobiles. We sure do, man, we

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so true that aviation, as you said,

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Speaker 1: has fundamentally changed the world. And we've got it in

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Speaker 1: the notes here. Yeah, we love planes. Once you get

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Speaker 1: on them, they're dope. We also have to check in

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Speaker 1: with old Zoom Zoom, our super producer Max. I remember

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Speaker 1: when you were traveling to the Pacific Northwest and you

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Speaker 1: I was surprised that you were not as excited as

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Speaker 1: I would be about a flight that long.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I don't. I've gotten used to that one.

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Speaker 3: To Nole's point, the more you fly, the less annoying

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Speaker 3: it is. I am bold, clausterphelbic and afraid of heights,

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Speaker 3: but off of a pro tip from you Ben, I

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Speaker 3: having all these things. But I remember when I was

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Speaker 3: specific Northwest, I was trying to take Amtrak up to

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Speaker 3: and it's just like, how is this thing, y'all.

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Speaker 2: I know we got to get into the episode, but

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to say I am taking my first

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Speaker 2: which is like very mad Max Fury road coded, but

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Speaker 1: I'm about to also go on one of the longer

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Speaker 2: Man, It's gonna be it's gonna be wild longer than

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Speaker 2: Doha Grab. I'll have to check the times. That's great.

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Speaker 2: That was. That was about as long as I could stomach.

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Speaker 2: And thankfully the kind people at the event that we

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Speaker 2: happen ever, but they flew us out first class on

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Speaker 2: Qatar Airlines, which will ruin flying for you forever over,

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Speaker 2: but not necessarily because there's just nothing else will ever

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Speaker 1: I wrote to those folks, no, and you wrote to

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Speaker 1: Qatar Era yes, And I said, what is that tea

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Speaker 2: Like I bought some of it. It's actually like a coffee.

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Speaker 2: But it's sort of Arabic coffee, is they call it.

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Speaker 2: it's really good. It's sort of a combination between coffee

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Speaker 1: And this is another thing that we have to point out. So, yes,

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Speaker 1: aviation has changed the world. Depending upon where you live

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Speaker 1: and your commissary, your sky commissary, you can literally hop

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Speaker 1: But I was thinking about this too, man, the runway

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Speaker 1: Broni's up in the sky. That passage of innovation has

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was so weird that when we started our

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Speaker 2: two already. Otto Lelenthal, known as the Flying Man, in fact,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in fact, this is a guy who is a

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Speaker 2: We have on famous last words. Oh gosh, I don't

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Speaker 1: He is rumored to have declared in German, sacrifices must

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Speaker 2: She is so German. It's so German. It's like when

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Speaker 1: It's like when my German ex girlfriend, as a compliment,

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Speaker 2: Ben. In my mind, I pictured that your German next

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Speaker 1: Yes. So today we are rocketing into one of the

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Speaker 1: most ridiculous stories in all of flight history. As we're

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Speaker 2: Oh may we, oh, may we.

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Speaker 1: Please introduce this with a commercial from nineteen seventy six.

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Speaker 2: I sure hope so, because you're setting it up so well.

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Speaker 4: Now, when you fly the flag, you can fly the future.

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Speaker 4: British Airways Concord the first supersonic passenger airline to fly

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Speaker 4: than ever before. Hats all of taking more care of you,

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Speaker 4: giving you what you need first, best and fastest. Fly

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Speaker 2: The flag, Fly the future, Fly wave the flag. I'm sold, Ben,

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Speaker 2: How come we haven't heard about this? This seems great,

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Speaker 2: it seems pretty great. But they did it not take offs?

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Speaker 2: Did it not? Do they made a commercial sounds so confident.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very patriotic because that's you know, British Airways,

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Speaker 1: that's what they're talking about, will fly the flag.

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Speaker 2: delightful New Zealand comedy du a Flight of the Concords

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Speaker 2: hence the breaking of the sound barrier.

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Speaker 1: the speed of sound. We're talking mock one, baby, because it.

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Speaker 2: Makes that sound, right, doesn't it? When it breaks, it

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Speaker 1: A guy named Charles Chuck Elwood Jeger he achieved or

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Speaker 2: It is one of those things, ben where it's like,

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Speaker 2: For sure. Yeah, corone of Blood. I wish there was

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm skeptical, but optimist. It is a

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Speaker 2: Would you feel g G force? You know, the way

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Speaker 2: it was super limited. Ben. We lived near a major

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is this is the next issue they

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Speaker 1: it works. So it's not only expensive to build these guys.

436
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: It's not a strike one, it's not only limited in

437
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: its deployment Strike two. It is still kind of you know,

438
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: for rich people.

439
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 2: But the science of it is so incredibly impressive. Ben, you,

440
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: by the way, excellent work on this research for this episode.

441
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: Ben found that this is actually constitutes flying faster than

442
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 2: the speed at which the Earth rotates. Yes, so it

443
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 2: can pick up passengers from London at breakfast time and

444
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: then zoom zoom them all the way to New York

445
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: City before us breakfast time, double breakfast, breakfast, second breakfast.

446
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: That's a yeah, potato right, the whole day on the

447
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: same dang day.

448
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, jumping he real quick, considering what considering

449
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 3: the amenities on the flight that we will get to,

450
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: you could say it's the third breakfast.

451
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yeah, that's a great right there, Max.

452
00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: Because this this inspired, you know, the upper crust of

453
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: society to brag to each other. Oh, you must fly

454
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: the concord. Oh, I've I'll see you. I'll see you

455
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: in a few hours when you land. You see, old boy,

456
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm on the Concord flight.

457
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, and you were. Of course there have

458
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: been doing an impression of Sir David Frost, who loves

459
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: to brag about flying the Concord being the only way

460
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 2: to fly because it constituted being in two places at once,

461
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: the only way in this human life to achieve such wonders.

462
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 2: I love that David Frost. Obviously it is the richie

463
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: rich Londoner.

464
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we can maybe do an episode on him later,

465
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: but okay, he loved the Concord and he definitely paid

466
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: out of the nose for it because in this white

467
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: surprise folks, it continued through two thousand and three. So

468
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: these are some of the most relevant numbers we have

469
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: for ticket fair. In two thousand and three, the standard

470
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: return fair like a round trip from London to New

471
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: York was six thousand, six hundred and thirty six British pounds.

472
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: Which if we inflation calculator it with a boop and

473
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: a dude, Max, where's your thank you? Creacious? That would

474
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 2: be a whopping What are we talking eleven thousand, two

475
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 2: hundred and forty two British pounds sterling today or fifteen

476
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: grand roughly.

477
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this gets a little complicated. Uh well we

478
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: have to double dragon it. That's fifteen thousand, one hundred

479
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: and thirty one dollars and seventy two cents in todayish prices.

480
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: That's more than fifteen grand o boys per ticket. Random boy,

481
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: it's a word we made up to mean fifteen grand.

482
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: Love it, love it. Thank you. You did it with

483
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: such confidence that I absolutely believed this was a thing,

484
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: and you know what now it is.

485
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you man. I feel like I just got knighted.

486
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: Hey knighted me. But also we have to point out

487
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: because of the limited size of the fuselage, there's no

488
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: real basic economy option. You were paying the same ticket

489
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: price as the celebrities, yeah.

490
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 2: Like Robert de Niro as in cashish, which it would

491
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: cost you quite a lot of As we previously mentioned,

492
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: you did get a lot of perks. This is borderline

493
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: like the glory days of sixties pan Am you know,

494
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: luxury though it had to of course be contained a

495
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: little bit, but you did get fine foods and wines.

496
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: It was a limited cabin size, so it was incredibly exclusive.

497
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: The service was immaculate, The champagne was a flowing.

498
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: Seriously, this is about when you could smoke on planes.

499
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: They would give you cigars, you would eat cavia and lobster.

500
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't even like that there's still last trays on

501
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: some older planes.

502
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: It's really weird to see. But also like, I don't

503
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: think either of us were old enough to have ever

504
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: been on a flight when smoking was still a thing,

505
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: though I do seem to recall people smoking in airports,

506
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: but ports, yeah, can you imagine though, on a limited

507
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: sized cabin like that, it's getting hot box by cigars.

508
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: There's not enough ventilation, of course, And also I remember

509
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: I've been on private planes where I've been small like

510
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: puddle jumpers, where the pilot was smoking, and I was like, oh,

511
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: that's not that's a choice. It's not the choice I

512
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: would have made. But thanks for getting us there, man.

513
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 3: Recycled air But yeah, I think Hartspeel is actually one

514
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: of the last airports to have smoking areas. It's been

515
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: in the last like fifteen years, at least last night

516
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 3: they cut it.

517
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, way less than that. We it's just been in

518
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: the last five to ten years, more like.

519
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 3: Five, which is funny because I think they're all pet

520
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: relief areas. So if someone's walking through Heartsfield and they

521
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 3: have a pet with them, enjoy the smoking areas.

522
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 2: And those a man looking up at the ceiling in

523
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: those smoking areas, it's just probably covered in gook. But

524
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: of course in Europe you're still going to have smoking areas,

525
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: and nearly every major.

526
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: Airport one hundred percent, a lot of different a lot

527
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: of different countries around the world are still much more

528
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: friendly to that kind of stuff anyway. So there we are.

529
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: We've got our caviat, We've got our lobster. This is ridiculous.

530
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: We're champagne drunk. We're trying out cigars for the first time.

531
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: And then we start watching the other people on the flight,

532
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: and the people watching is bonkers.

533
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: Oh I got second to none celebrities, royalty, the upper

534
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: crust of the upper crust, the one percent of the

535
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: top one percent of the top one percent. When Queen

536
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: Elizabeth flew, which of course she did, she always got

537
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: seat one are for the Queen.

538
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: And does it as one of the only people on

539
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: the planet who actually doesn't need a passport.

540
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's weird, even sound barrier gimmick of

541
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: it all too. They kind of commercialized that aspect into

542
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: a fun collectible. Oh yeah, Yeah, they gamified it. Right.

543
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: There's this big mock meter at the front of the cabin,

544
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: and the cabin is small enough that you can see it, right.

545
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: And when they break the sound bear, they drop some

546
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: French disco.

547
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, they dropped some They dropped some French disco

548
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: that will later become Daft Funk. They pass out yet

549
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: more champagne, and this thing just says it's a big

550
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: celebration when it hits mock one, and then it's a

551
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: big celebration when it hits mock tw twice the speed

552
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: of sound, and that's when people have a champagne toast.

553
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: Every time.

554
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: Mock two is when they drop the French disco and

555
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: they do the champagne toast.

556
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so they got a lot of flights in

557
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: if what we say British Airways starts in nineteen seventy six,

558
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: so all the way up to two thousand and three,

559
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: their Concord fleet operated close to fifty thousand flights, clocked

560
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: up more than one hundred and forty thousand something flight hours,

561
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: traveled almost one hundred and fifty million miles, and along

562
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: with that, everybody riding on there, including the Queen of England,

563
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: collectively consumed over one million bottles of Champagne.

564
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: I mean, that's again I say to you, there must

565
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: be a reason. This isn't something that we hear about anymore.

566
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the first time we saw the

567
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: Hoover dan man who has spat in the face of God,

568
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: for sure.

569
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: But I just mean, like, it seems like they've found

570
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: some pretty consistent success, you know, running these flights for

571
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: the super super rich. So I mean there must have

572
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: been something that caused things to change. I think we

573
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: know that there is. That's what this episode's kind of about, right, Absolutely,

574
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: this is our turn.

575
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: I mean, those numbers from British Airways don't even count

576
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: Air France. For just a few decades, the concord was

577
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: high and mighty. Was a different world, was a faster

578
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: one if you could afford it. It was a future

579
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: in the sky. Until we fast forward to July twenty fifth,

580
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: two thousand.

581
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: Two thousand. It's yeah, yeah, I just again, it blows

582
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: my mind. This was as recent as two thousand. That's

583
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: when an Air France concord flight. Air France flight forty

584
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: five ninety crashed just after takeoff at Charles de Gaulle

585
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: airport over there in Paris. One hundred passengers, nine crew

586
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 2: and four people on the ground were sadly killed. Both

587
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: Air France and British Airways found their concord grounded in

588
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: order to run significant safety.

589
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: Checks one hundred percent. Yeah, and this is the standard

590
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: operating procedure in this situation, you know what I mean,

591
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: just like a car gets recalled or a model of

592
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: car gets recalled after accidents. However they endured for a time.

593
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: In two thousand and one, the concord is officially back.

594
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: The skies are looking a little less gloomy. But as

595
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: will recall, no something else occurred that year. In the

596
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: United States, September eleventh, two thousand and one, one of

597
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: the worst disasters on US soil in the country's history.

598
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 2: Changed a lot of things.

599
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, yeah, man, remember when we could just did

600
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: you ever do this? Pre two thousand and one? I

601
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: would just go hang out at the airport to meet people. Also,

602
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: like at their gates, you not have to go through security.

603
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean we we It's hard to remember even a

604
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: time before TSA. Yeah, it really is strange how quickly

605
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: things get normalized. And as we say, because of various

606
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: laws both France and Britain were largely dependent on the

607
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: United States for their Concord roots, and so when travel

608
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: air travel, especially around US areas, doesn't exist, those are

609
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: empty seats. They're crazy travel restrictions.

610
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: Like you just mentioned, the operating costs of these things

611
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: must have been astronomical. And if you're running these things

612
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: as a loss leader, I mean, that's not gonna that's

613
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: not going to last, that's not going to be sustainable

614
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: for them.

615
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is a double whammy. It's spelt doom

616
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: for the profit. As you said, right, these are expensive

617
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: to run, and therefore it's spelt doom for the birds.

618
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: And we would acknowledge this. All plane crashes are terrible.

619
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: All crashes are terrible, But folks run back what Noel

620
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: just said. This crash in two thousand is the only

621
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: fatal Concord accident in the entirety of its operational history.

622
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 1: It was just so new and so fancy that one

623
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: thing going wrong. It's kind of like when Tesla's first

624
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: came out, or when electric vehicles first came out. There

625
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: was a lot of skepticism about this, this new rollout

626
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: of an automobile. Also, the cyber truck is trash.

627
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 2: Not only is it trash, and it's in the way

628
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: it operates, not as advertised, but it's just boy, it

629
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: is a dumb looking car, a real barnacle, a real

630
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: albatross for anybody driving that thing around.

631
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 1: I love nineties video games, and I think they belong

632
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: on the screen and not in real life.

633
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 3: And whenever I'm on the highway and I have one

634
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 3: of those things next to me, I'm like, I got

635
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 3: to merge over as fast as possible because I'm like, man,

636
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 3: I just feel like I'm going to get run over

637
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: by something made by someone who watched a knockoff of

638
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 3: Tron like way too many times.

639
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: So Ugly will riddle me this, guys.

640
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: If the Tesla company came to us and said, do

641
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: an episode on cyber trucks and we'll give you each one.

642
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: Cyber trucks will become a footnote in history, sort of

643
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 2: like the DeLorean.

644
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, Delarey, it's a good cop. Even the El Camino.

645
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a weird looking thing.

646
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well, I mean like, if you want a car,

647
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: get a car. If you want a truck, get a truck.

648
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: Who needs a truck, right, car.

649
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: You can sell one, according to Google AI for around

650
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: seventy two hundred thousand dollars. So if I'm allowed to

651
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: sell it, sure, I'll take it.

652
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Speaker 2: Well again, because of the historical curio of it, all right,

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Speaker 2: it's I would.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody really drives them not well,

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Speaker 1: So later investigation did, oh that's the Camino though.

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Speaker 2: We're talking oh cyberdrug Yeah yeah, yeah, no wait, I

657
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: see those cyber drugs rolling around here in Atlanta plenty,

658
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 2: and a lot of them have really awful like rat decals. Yeah,

659
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: it's a real humiliation ritual.

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Speaker 1: Well, uh, you know, if that's, for some reason or another,

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00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: the only vehicle that you could get that, we wish

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00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: you well on the road. Just be careful because they

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Speaker 1: have some design flaws, kind of like the Concorde.

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Speaker 2: So I hear, and you know, there's a reason I

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Speaker 2: just can't believe it was as recent as the early

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Speaker 2: two thousands that these things were happening. I just had

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00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: was complete blind spot for me, did not realize that

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Speaker 2: it was that recently. But you if you can imagine,

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Speaker 2: I think we talked about did we talk about the

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Speaker 2: last kind of nail on the coffin here?

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Speaker 1: Oh. The The investigation for the accident shows shows us

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00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 1: what happened, and we want to recommend a great deep

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00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: dive on YouTube by a guy called Mentor Pilot me

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00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: N t O U R Pilot. He will walk you

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00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: through all of the blow by blow events and factors

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00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:53,320
Speaker 1: leading to that tragic accident of flight four five nine zero. Essentially,

677
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: it failed due to compounding known defects and unfortunate happenstance.

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00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: It ran over debris in the runway. That in the

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00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: debris was small stuff that was left behind by the

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Speaker 1: aircraft that took off just before it. So it runs

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Speaker 1: over this the boom boom, and it causes one of

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Speaker 1: the concord's tires to explode. The tire explodes and disintegrates,

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Speaker 1: and it shoots little tire pieces all across yeah, shrapnel

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00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: just so all across the underside of the wing. It

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00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: damages landing gear so they can't retract it. It ruptures

686
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: the one of the fuel tanks and I've got like

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Speaker 1: thirteen fuel pods on these things that the fuel starts leaking,

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00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: It ignites, it knocks out the engines one on two

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00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: on the left side. Everyone dies. This happens in less

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Speaker 1: than two minutes real time.

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Speaker 2: Oh jeez, it's really it's pretty awful. So on April

692
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 2: tenth of two thousand and three, British Airways announced that

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Speaker 2: they were retiring their fleet of seven Concords. They did

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Speaker 2: a farewell tour of the United Kingdom in North America

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Speaker 2: with tens of thousands of you know, Concord stands saying

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00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: there goodbyes to this iconic aircraft. And in May of

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Speaker 2: that year in France also retired their fleet.

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Speaker 1: And so it goes, we flew to supersonically close to

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Speaker 1: the sun. And now, fellow sky lovers, we don't want

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Speaker 1: to get all MOPy about what could have been. When

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00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 1: you're talking about inventions and you're talking about experimental ideas

702
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: and innovations. Even a even something that ultimately doesn't work out,

703
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: is a learning opportunity and hopefully informs the next big idea.

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Speaker 1: And let's remember, you can still go see some Concords

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00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: live and in person to day. Just get to your

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00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: browser choice and you can find you can you can

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Speaker 1: maybe find some in your area.

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Speaker 2: You just can't, you know, fly on them for no,

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00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: you sure can't. And this was all in news to me,

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Speaker 2: super super interesting. I really really enjoyed doing this one

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Speaker 2: with you. Thanks for the excellent research.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, Nola, and thanks to everybody for tuning

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Speaker 1: in question. Knowing what we know now, would you guys

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Speaker 1: fly at Concord Jet if we didn't have to pay

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00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 1: full ticket price?

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00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, I think I would.

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Speaker 3: I would lobster caviar things I can't eat from the condition,

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00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: but still.

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Speaker 1: I would pay extra for the no cigar flight. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: not to sound like I'm not still a cool person

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Speaker 1: in my old age, but when you described it as

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Speaker 1: hot boxing, Nol, that really stood out to me, because cigars,

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Speaker 1: even in like a big room are they announced them,

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Speaker 1: so even just.

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Speaker 2: The recycled air of it all, the mouth breathing of

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Speaker 2: it all, you know, I mean, can you imagine if

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Speaker 2: we were literally mouth breathing smoke.

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Speaker 3: Just imagine the mouth feel from all the recycled cigar smoke.

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00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: Ah, Yes, it turns the stomach.

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Speaker 1: Big, big thanks of course to our super producer, mister

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Speaker 1: Max William Saxon. Before we give it thanks to our

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Speaker 1: favorite mouth breather, Jonathan Strickland ak the quizt uh we

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Speaker 1: did here in the chat, Max was looking up the

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Speaker 1: origin story of flight of the Concord, So how about

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Speaker 1: we end on that one.

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Speaker 3: It is very long, but I found it from what

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00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: appears to be their official websites. But basically they had

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Speaker 3: booked a gig and they didn't have a name. So

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Speaker 3: one of them went to the bathroom and noticed on

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Speaker 3: a toilet that I was titled the Concord and the

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Speaker 3: other guy was like, what about Flair of the Concords.

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Speaker 2: They're like, okay, that's the d story Max with the

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00:42:50,320 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: facts disappointing as they may be. Nothing to do right

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00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: the fact, nothing to do with the topic of today's episode,

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Speaker 2: But well done, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Big big thanks of course, aj Bahamas, Jacob's the rude

747
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Speaker 1: Dudes of ridiculous crime.

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Speaker 2: Who else well, you know who else been? Christopher Hasiote,

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Speaker 2: isn't even the Jeff codes here?

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Speaker 1: And spirit of course Yes, and big thanks to everybody

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Speaker 1: who works with the airline industry.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for putting up with our stuff.

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Speaker 1: Flight attendants and I think a lot of pilots are

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Speaker 1: severely unappreciated.

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Speaker 2: Here here We'll see you next time, folks. For more

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