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Speaker 2: Oh do you want about using will be luck? It's

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Speaker 2: time to back. Oh yeah, it's Monday morning. You gotta

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Speaker 2: facehole UFC three twenty one reaction here, it's October twenty seventh.

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Speaker 2: All of the twenty twenty fives. Let's do this thing.

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell liive in direct from the greater Hartford Suburbs.

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Speaker 2: This man who joins us by way of Washington, DC

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Speaker 2: worsh even though they canceled this train home. They canceled

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Manhattan. The Meadow Larks Studio is one Luke

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Speaker 2: Thomas of Bang Energy can fame. I mean, what what

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Speaker 2: flavor is that? Piss on your relatives?

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Speaker 1: This is a big bang jang La. It's any It's

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Speaker 1: any means orange. Yeah, and then it says on top

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Speaker 1: any means possible, and I'm like, yeah, I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know how I feel about that name. To start

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk a lot about aspinall getting probed Mackenzie

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Speaker 2: during climbing the mountain. A little talk as well with

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Speaker 2: about the box over the weekend when Fabi awardly shocked

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Speaker 2: the world and a questionable stoppage against Joseph Parker. Of

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Speaker 2: course we'll go through your d MS. We'll go through

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Speaker 2: my ship, Luke Thomas. First of all, people can like

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Speaker 2: and subscribe, so why don't you put that on the screen.

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Speaker 2: There you go, Thank you very much. Follow what we're

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Speaker 2: doing on this show in our lives on our YouTube

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Speaker 2: channels lt It was a weird ass weekend fights.

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Speaker 1: Not what we It was a weird card, not what.

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Speaker 2: We expected, not what was intended. But were you entertained?

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Speaker 1: No? I mean sort of. This is why the card

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Speaker 1: was weird, right, because it had a I mean, it

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Speaker 1: goes without saying the ending of the main event was

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Speaker 2: Yeah uh.

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Speaker 1: And the KO main event was a fine fight, but

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Speaker 1: rather protestinan for a title fight. But then you have

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Speaker 1: the the Australian kid with the most unpronounceable name on

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's Long Island Quillen, is it? How do

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Speaker 2: you say killed the man?

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Speaker 3: I think Quillan saw killed, Saw killed?

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Speaker 1: That's it. That maybe the best head kick KO I've

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Speaker 2: I mean that saw Chris Barnett's ass a lot.

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Speaker 1: I got to look at Chris Barnett's butt cheeks. That's

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Speaker 2: The way I hear my ship is on fire. The

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Speaker 1: Where's the Khanoff had a nice win, but there was

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Speaker 2: And he think reminds me of John Jones's Phoner when

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Speaker 2: he's wrestling with has Bulah, Like sometimes he's rock.

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Speaker 1: Alright, you guys have told me he has a big

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Speaker 1: old uh Robert when he's doing this. I have not

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Speaker 1: seen this studio. Have you seen this ship?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't erase it from your memory banks once

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is interesting. We're gonna I mean, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, this is what the show is about.

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Speaker 2: Really, let's say hi officially, this time to the third

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Speaker 2: member of our team. He's a producer, director, bong enthusiast,

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Speaker 2: the son of an Australian and the proprieteer of the

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Speaker 1: Here's Luke, no seed of He hates gambling. I love gambling.

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Speaker 3: Everyone shout out Chauncey Billups, shout out Terry Road.

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Speaker 2: He shout out Derek Gainnor. Is that the guy's name?

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Speaker 1: I don't know the third one. I forget his name, but.

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Speaker 2: I know I know that that would make guys, Derek.

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Speaker 1: There was the other Eric Minor? Derek Miner Minor. Yeah, Minner,

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Speaker 1: Miner Minner. That's right, No, Brian Minor is the OFFICI.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, all right, uh yeah, good weekend, guys. I

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Speaker 2: You only hit that bong a few times.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen. I took my daughter. I was trying to

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Speaker 2: You, did you hit the vape by the car before?

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Speaker 2: So there you go, all right, all right, shout out

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Speaker 1: Did he or did he not have sleeve tattoos? Three

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do you think his ass cheeks? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I didn't put it in there. I had no say

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Speaker 2: Finally, what I'm trying to say is we'd like you

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Speaker 1: Can I get a napkin? Please? What are they?

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Speaker 2: The staff is your? You know?

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Speaker 1: Well? I can kill this microphone and get up and go.

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Speaker 1: What did you do with your weekend? That was so

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Speaker 1: much better than a kid's Halloween dance party, which, by

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Speaker 1: It was a brutal afternoon.

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Speaker 2: But great weather at all. Great weather in Connecticut this week.

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Speaker 1: Say it out loud, say it proud. October is the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, October bangs right, thank you, Ken, Ken is on

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Speaker 2: Who pays two hundred for a head shave a guy

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Speaker 1: Really, what you're just paying for is whatever their their

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Speaker 2: You know, you got a new guy.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah, that's great. He does not go to

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Speaker 2: But that's how he was meant to be, was this,

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Speaker 1: Hey? I watched a movie over the weekend with Tukster

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Speaker 1: and it was British and the doctors kept coming to

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Speaker 1: They don't do that shitping, No, they.

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Speaker 2: Don't do that shit anymore. The only people that deliver

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Speaker 2: anymore whores, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what I mean? And the pizza guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and pizza guys. They're the same breed. All right,

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Speaker 2: Enough of this absolute bullshit that you probably fast forwarded

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Speaker 2: through anyway. But we're back. We're ready. Let's do it

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Speaker 2: with topic number one. You knew it already UFC three

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Speaker 2: twenty one from Abu Dhabi late Saturday afternoon, at least

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Speaker 2: Still a lot to talk about coming out of here

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Speaker 2: from this Tom Aspinall Cyril gon first defense of the

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Speaker 2: undisputed title for Tom, and it is a no contest,

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Speaker 2: Somebody wins on one and then goes on to lose

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Speaker 2: It doesn't help him, it doesn't make him look good.

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Speaker 2: So you can see the left eye of Tom, which

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Speaker 5: And what's crazy about that is his other eye was

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Speaker 2: Shots Fired is brought to you by Cuervo. Now's a

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Speaker 2: good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila, Luke.

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Speaker 2: We have Anthony Smith and Chale Sonnen, two former titles

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Speaker 1: This turned out to be quite controversial.

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Speaker 2: We're dunking on Tom, but maybe not to this degree.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen.

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Speaker 1: In fact, his legacy his fault or not. Well, don't

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Speaker 4: You had a job to do and you, for whatever

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Speaker 2: eye gets affected, dude, this is straight up both of them.

440
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Speaker 2: Is this a acceptable stance from ex fighters to say, sorry,

441
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Speaker 2: you gotta fight through that. Anything can happen.

442
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,760
Speaker 1: I would imagine on some level. I think there's probably

443
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Speaker 1: a little something to it, for sure. I mean, they're

444
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,520
Speaker 1: right right, You're gonna have circumstances where it could be

445
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Speaker 1: the first punch of the night. Right, you get a

446
00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,000
Speaker 1: jab and it breaks your nose, and now what are

447
00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,520
Speaker 1: you gonna do? But that is a legal shot understanding,

448
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 1: But it's you. You might be you might have ten

449
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,160
Speaker 1: fights in your career. Let's say, and you're eleventh fight.

450
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 1: Someone breaks your nose, and now where are you. You're

451
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,239
Speaker 1: in a place where you have to adjust to a

452
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Speaker 1: reality or you could get your you know, you could

453
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 1: get hit with something and your vision is obstructed. It's

454
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Speaker 1: a legal punch, and now you have to just kind

455
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 1: of adapt to a situation if you want to win.

456
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 1: That is clearly true to me. That's that is I

457
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,239
Speaker 1: think it is important to be able to say, if

458
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Speaker 1: you're a fighter, you have the physical durability and the

459
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Speaker 1: mental fortitude in very difficult and sometimes let's just call

460
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Speaker 1: it unfair circumstances to persevere just by sheer will alone.

461
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Speaker 1: I can appreciate that instinct and the ability to do that. However,

462
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Speaker 1: I just feel like we're talking about a somewhat different

463
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Speaker 1: circumstance here.

464
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Speaker 2: It's not a regular fight night. This is the heavyweight

465
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Speaker 2: championship when you've been forced to sit out for fifteen months.

466
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the fight that Smith is referencing is

467
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Speaker 1: a fight against Ryan Span. He wanted to be a

468
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Speaker 1: split decision, and credit to him, that was a tough

469
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Speaker 1: thing to do. But the stakes and the difficulty of

470
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Speaker 1: the opponent are nowhere near a heavyweight title fight, even

471
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Speaker 1: if we granted that the division is somewhat diminished. More

472
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Speaker 1: to the point, like I'll be honest with you, if

473
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Speaker 1: you can't actually see and you're in a UFC title fight,

474
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Speaker 1: it is irrational to keep going. Could you show your

475
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Speaker 1: toughness if you really wanted to? As a way to

476
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Speaker 1: gut through and maybe get a win. Yeah, of course

477
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 1: it is. But like if someone told you at the

478
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Speaker 1: beginning of the fight, we're gonna cover your eye, and

479
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: now you have to compete. And by the way, the

480
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: reason we're going to cover it is because someone fouled

481
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Speaker 1: you and now you have to deal with these circumstances.

482
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Speaker 1: This is not something anyone would ever agree to. This

483
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: is you got someone again. We could talk about the

484
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Speaker 1: intentionality of it, and to what extent that is relevant.

485
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Speaker 1: I'm pointing out the stakes are too high, the give

486
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 1: up is too much. It is irrational to keep going

487
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: in a situation of this magnitude, with this kind of injury.

488
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him at his word about the severity.

489
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Speaker 1: If you want to have the highest level of excellence

490
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Speaker 1: in the sport, we should make a point here. I

491
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: don't think tom aspinall quit I don't. I don't want

492
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Speaker 1: to be clear. I don't think he did that, but

493
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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, like even if he did, so

494
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Speaker 1: what hear me out on this, George Saint Pierre, it's

495
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: these are all different circumstances, meaningfully different. But George Saint Pierre,

496
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Speaker 1: when he got bodied by Matt Sarah in their first

497
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Speaker 1: In their first uh what do you call it? In

498
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,479
Speaker 1: their first fight, he tapped to strikes. People think it

499
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 1: was a TKO stoppage because if you don't notice it,

500
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: he leans over and taps the map and calls it

501
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: a day like this. Idea that this inherently makes you

502
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Speaker 1: a quitter for all time clearly is not true. There's

503
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Speaker 1: really no evidence to show, certainly in his further career

504
00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: that that ended up being a thing. More to the point,

505
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Speaker 1: he saved himself from further damage in the situation. Now

506
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: that was different because that fight was already lost. It

507
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: wasn't a foul. But I'm pointing out people surrender in

508
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: MMA all the time for reasons that are to varying

509
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: degrees strategic. I don't think Tom did that, But even

510
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: if he did under the fouling circumstance, it's not a

511
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: big departure from other instances of surrender that we just

512
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Speaker 1: take as a given.

513
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Speaker 2: I gotcha. Also, it was both eyes. Now, I get

514
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 2: when Anthony Smith is saying, you know, you'll find a

515
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: way to let them believe that you can see and continue,

516
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: But what if you literally can't see? I wonder if

517
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Speaker 2: I wonder if if Cyril Gon did not have the

518
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: success he had and shout out to Cyril Gon, because

519
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 2: come the day before you know the fight, all of

520
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 2: us that make predictions for whatever they're worth, we're like,

521
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Speaker 2: I just can't talk myself into gonn even you know,

522
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 2: going the distance here, Gon put that on his shoulders,

523
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: fought very well, bloody the nose of Tom Luke. If

524
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Speaker 2: he had not had that success, would we hear the

525
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 2: same people's leaning towards the quid angle there if if

526
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 2: Tom wasn't Because I see people saying, oh, before the eyepoke,

527
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: he could see he's breathing out of his mouth, he's gassed.

528
00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: He didn't expect God to be this good. Whether that's

529
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: all true or not, the fact that it's there, I

530
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Speaker 2: think gives people the liberty and luxury to lean toward

531
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Speaker 2: the all command he quit line.

532
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, there's just no denying the fact

533
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Speaker 1: that Gon, relative to expectations, overperformed clearly has made the

534
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: situation worse. Right in terms of the perception anyway, Gon

535
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: was doing well and to your point, blighted up his nose.

536
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: The jab was landing. He actually landed a couple of

537
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: lead hooks off on that open stance. He looked good.

538
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: He was bigger too, Yeah, he's bigger.

539
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: He was moving fluidly. His takedown defense looked good. Although

540
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: I went back and I watched the takedown a temp.

541
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a super you know.

542
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 2: He didn't flash the takedown, but he didn't commit.

543
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 1: H didn't like you know, it wasn't the best effort

544
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: he ever gave. But the point is you're asking a question,

545
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: did the way in which God performed again? And I'm

546
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: going to add a little nuance, especially relative to expectations.

547
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: Did that? It is that affecting some of the post

548
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: fight narrative. There's just no question in mind. I think

549
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: it's unfair.

550
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: Though overall I think it's unfair. It's two fingers in

551
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: the eye. It's early in the fight. There's a lot

552
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: of things going on here, and I think you have

553
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 2: to take into account the story that that Tom had

554
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: up to this point, having to wait all to prove himself,

555
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 2: all this stuff. It was like all this shit was

556
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 2: against him. It's title fights are different. I don't like

557
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: when you're taking away men can't see, can't fight. Terry

558
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: Silver taught us that in Kariate Kid Party. That's true

559
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 2: quick silver method.

560
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 1: But the other part too, is like it also robs

561
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: Tom to a degree here because let's say Gone wins

562
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: the first round, the round was almost over, fine, but

563
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: then Tom finds a way to start building momentum in

564
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Speaker 1: round two. I think it's a stoppage. In round three,

565
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: this would have been a triumphant moment for him. It

566
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: is robbed from him. And now you've got you know,

567
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, I don't know what the

568
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: number is, but there's enough of a vocal either whether

569
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: it's a minority or majority of people saying, hey Tom quit,

570
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 1: Tom's this that the.

571
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Speaker 2: Other fighters, a lot of profighters coming on.

572
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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I understand again stand them trying to

573
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Speaker 1: police the ranks around toughness to a degree. Again, to

574
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: a degree, I understand that. But I'm just pointing out,

575
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: you've got all of this pressure whoever it's coming from,

576
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 1: raining down on Tom and to your point, now, now

577
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: he seems to maybe he's over compensating to a degree,

578
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: like with the kind of medical validation, dude.

579
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: He should not be showing a full video of his

580
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: of his hospital breakdown, a full video of trying to

581
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: talk to the doctor and say, should this fight have

582
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 2: been stopped? That should not be shown publicly. I don't

583
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: even think the argument Tom and his dad made during

584
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 2: that video of like, look, the fight should have been

585
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: a DQ. The ref had warned him. There's a whole

586
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 2: separate discussion, and I hope we have time to have

587
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: it about how you change this moving forward. But I

588
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: think that just looks bad when people are already saying

589
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: stuff about you and then you come out and be like, well,

590
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: he should have been disqualified anyway. Either way, everything is

591
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: seemingly against Tom, including Dana White's reaction, which brings another

592
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: conspiratorial angle. Let's first listen to the UFC CEO when

593
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: asked about this debacle.

594
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 7: I said earlier, because of the John Jones fight, I

595
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 7: think everybody was sleeping on Cyro gone and and sort

596
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 7: of wrote him off. But I feel like, you know,

597
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 7: I'm sure in his camp he was training like a

598
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 7: animal for this fight, and it's unfortunate that it ended

599
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 7: the way that it did. And yes, I think that

600
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 7: there probably will be a lot more interest in the

601
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 7: rematch after they saw, you know, I mean, he had

602
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 7: Tom bloodied up, and you know, Tom didn't want to

603
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 7: continue in the fight, so the rematch is very interesting.

604
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: Luke, what he said looks worse on paper because it

605
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 2: looks like he's dunking on him. Most people, when watching

606
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: the video still think he's being dunked on. Is it

607
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: right to connect a conspiratorial dot to this to the

608
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: idea of what Tom's father and manager, Andy Aspinall had

609
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 2: been saying publicly about once two more fights are done

610
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: in our you know UFC contracts up, we're going to

611
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: professional boxing? Did that play a factor in Dana choosing

612
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: the verbiage of Tom chose not to continue, even though

613
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: technically he did choose not to continue.

614
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Speaker 1: I wasn't big on the idea that there would have

615
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: been some kind of conspiracy before, and I got to

616
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: tell you that comment. I got questions. I mean, for example,

617
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: we were wondering why Dana White spent I don't know,

618
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: a long long time being a media surrogate. It seemed

619
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: like for John Jones as like this unstoppable destroyer, even

620
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: at times where there was at least some reason to

621
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: question that or even why he would go so heavily

622
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: for number one. Yeah, Like there was like there was

623
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: like these big long soliloquies about like why John Jones

624
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: was a lot of Yeah. I mean it was like

625
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: the Hospital of Video apparently, which I've not seen yet,

626
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: But you know, you get my point, Like, so you

627
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: add in that, but then you add on the other side,

628
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: Tom's dad not exactly stating super pro UFC talking points.

629
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: I think it is point to be he was.

630
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: Angry that what they what they've done to his boy

631
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 2: by enabling John Jones to be fair all.

632
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: Right, So I mean I would say that, like, if

633
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: you have questions about how do we say this, whether

634
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: there's friction between the Aspinall side of things and the

635
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: UFC side of things, there's good reason to believe that.

636
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, at the end of the day, dude,

637
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: who are you making these If you're Tom Aspinall, who

638
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: are you making these decisions for? Because if you felt

639
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: like you couldn't see and against a pinpoint striker like god,

640
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: certainly he was on point that night, you could have

641
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: risked it and then gotten stopped. And now who knows

642
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: what they would have done with you in terms of

643
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: getting another title shot. It seems likely that Aspirnall would

644
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: beat just about everybody else to get one back. But

645
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: you we've talked about this just because like, once you

646
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: get separated from the title, it's very hard to get

647
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: back to it. You can do all that and then

648
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: you can please these other people and they'll call you

649
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: a hero and they'll call you warrior. You know what,

650
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: they won't call you champion because you will have lost

651
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: it at that point. You have to make a decision.

652
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: Whose interests do I have to protect here? The ones

653
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: that make the public and or the other fighters and

654
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Speaker 1: or the UFC happy, or the ones that I feel

655
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: like are important for my career. You just have to

656
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: make a choice there, and you know you're not gonna

657
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: get unanimity of response as a consequence.

658
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: Ultimately, I think two things can be true Tom Tom.

659
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: The way Tom handled, at least inside the cage, is

660
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: completely justified. But all of the other things we're talking

661
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: about is only adding to the fuel of the opposite

662
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: point of view of did he you know, did he

663
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: tank here?

664
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: Do whatever? Whatever?

665
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 2: I think it's fair to give him the benefit of

666
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: the doubt. But some of this stuff is pulling up

667
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: Long Island. Luke, where do you weigh in on this?

668
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna go to the tough guy route and say

669
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: this guy should have kept fighting or what.

670
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: No, I don't blame him at all for not fighting.

671
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean you got we saw the replay. It was

672
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: brutal to both eyes too, Like he's not even complaining

673
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: about the one that.

674
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: Was looked a way with as a violation.

675
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't blame hm at all. It was a

676
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: bummer obviously, but I can't complain.

677
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: Well our regular luke. Yes, do we owe Cyril Gone

678
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: an apology for how much we counted them out? Or

679
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: did the last five fights and the two title losses?

680
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 2: Did those all speak for themselves? Like congratulations, you came

681
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: out round one, you look like a champion, But like,

682
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: did we have a right to ultimately give him no chance?

683
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: Which a lot of people were.

684
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: So it's funny. Early on in Cyril Gon's run in UFC,

685
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: I was really excited about him as a prospect.

686
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: You called it, you said that man will be championship.

687
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. And I lost a lot of faith

688
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: along the way after the God, after the excuse me,

689
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: after the and gone who fight, and then after the

690
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: you know the other ones do the vocal fight, and

691
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: I just felt like, Okay, Tom's gonna be too quick

692
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have an answer for this guy. But Gone,

693
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 1: when he's on and there's a question about you know,

694
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: there was plenty of reason to doubt Gone. However, did

695
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: Gon show that our skepticism was a little bit over sold?

696
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: I think we have to admit that it was. We

697
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: have to. But we didn't see that, say.

698
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: Didn't we say? Or I said it on different places

699
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: that I expect it's going to be at least one

700
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: round of tough, tough for Asmirau'll pick up the timing,

701
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: the speed and all that. I mean here, we just

702
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: don't know what would have happened next. But to that degree,

703
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: if this is the only footage we have and it

704
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: is Almoks really good. He looked mentally tough. He looked

705
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: like he was dialed in, like there's some parts of

706
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: his demeanor and an interviewer in the fight, sometimes you

707
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: question if he's everything he needs to be. He looked

708
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: like he was everything he.

709
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: Needed to be. I think nothing tells the story of

710
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: how much Gone was slept on. Then the odds hanging

711
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: heading into this fight were what minus three fifty for

712
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: Tom and now they're minus one to eighty. That he

713
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: swallowed the gap you got to give. Dude. When we're

714
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: right about guys, it's great, But when we're wrong about

715
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: guys too. It's not that I didn't think Gone at

716
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: one point would mature to a guy who could do

717
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: something like this. I just thought he was making enough

718
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: errors along the way that it wasn't going to happen.

719
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: And then with the biggest stakes, and you know what

720
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: Dean Thomas was talking about this that like when he

721
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: thought John Jones Gone just wasn't he wasn't ready for

722
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: that level of a size, of about of the stakes,

723
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: of the grandeur of it, and he kind of collapsed

724
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: in on himself. And again I saw video of people

725
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: comparing Tom's takedown failing against Gon to John's, and I'm like, dude,

726
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: they were very different. Gon switches stance overthrowing, and then

727
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: John just gets under it and then bodylocks from behind. Dude,

728
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: your terrible decision to throw that punch, whereas God didn't

729
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: throw anything. He was just waiting. And of course, if

730
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: you're just waiting to stop a takedown, it's going to

731
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: be a lot easier to stop a takedown. But the

732
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: point is, do I think Gon learned a lot from

733
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: that experience, based on what we saw in round one here,

734
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: and I wasn't sure he was going to Yes, he did.

735
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: We have to be honest. I didn't think he would

736
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: get to him. I didn't think I thought he could

737
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: make it close. At times, I didn't think he was

738
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: going to bust up Tom the way that he did. Yeah,

739
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: and he absolutely did.

740
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 2: That step in left cross, the short one was perfect.

741
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: That jab was on point. You give him a lot

742
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: of credit. Still, we don't know what it would have

743
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: looked like. So before we talk about the future and

744
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: when you reschedule this and all of that. Look, it

745
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: wasn't the referee's fault that this happened. And look we

746
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: have to say overall the referees had a great night.

747
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: There definitely were internal referees has the best night the whole.

748
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: There definitely were internal conversations, whether that's the Association of

749
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: Boxing Commissions, whether that is the UFC getting involved, about

750
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: the quickness not just of warnings, but of points. Points

751
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: were dropping all night, for grabbing the fence, for doing everything.

752
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: But Luke Thomas, I think the same thing we complain

753
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 2: about all the time is still true. I'm not saying

754
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: UFC has to go to the old pride gloves or whatever.

755
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: I think they have to enforce ipoking to get it

756
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: so that it's such a penalty against you, whether that's

757
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: an initial point, if it's a graze or not, just

758
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: an initial point, because how do you retrain the fighters

759
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: to not do this anymore instead of doing this? Michael

760
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: miss Being had a great video about that. He's like,

761
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: it's easy train them to do this with a fist

762
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: and take away something. Jim Miller posted a video and said,

763
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 2: if you take from their purse when they land eepokes,

764
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: that will retrain them in training not to do this anymore.

765
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: Is that accurate in your eyes? Either the threat of

766
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: the point or the purse or something like a legitimate

767
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: penalty that even if it's just a grazing, Hey, I

768
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 2: extended my fingers. I put myself in that position.

769
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: I think that you absolutely. Okay, here's just my view,

770
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: and we can decide how you want to talk about it.

771
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: My view is there are two basic ways to make

772
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: headway in reducing the amount of ipokes. Number one, we

773
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 1: should just state as a basic premise there's no way

774
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: to eliminate them. It's not possis you will always have

775
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: on some level a degree of ideas, just like headbutting.

776
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: Just like you know when you're doing head.

777
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: Butting is to your point, so infrequent that it's not

778
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: a scourge on the fighting, okay, But it's different in

779
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: boxing right where you're just so close to each other

780
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: and if you have open stance, it's a nightmare in

781
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: those situations. In MMA it's not nearly as problematic. But

782
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: that's what I would like to turn it into. I

783
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: would like to turn into something like that. The point

784
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is there's two ways to meaningfully

785
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: reduce what we have. Number one is the one you're

786
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: talking about here. There has to be stronger enforcement of penalties.

787
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: And to the point you raise, Mark Goddard was the

788
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: MVP of UFC three twenty one. He was not fucking around,

789
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: and it show me one instance of him enforcing the

790
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: rules that demonstrably looked unfair and or made the fight worst.

791
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: You can't do it. Also, what's the other guy's name,

792
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: Mitch Richmond. What's what was the other guy's name, rich

793
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: rich Mitchell, something like that, Rich Mitchell. Yes, he also

794
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: for that blatant fence grab he got in, but that's one.

795
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: You have to be more Johnny on the spot. The

796
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: referees have decided not last night or a excuse me, Saturday night.

797
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: The referees decided, absolutely, we're gonna get involved. But that

798
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: is an exception to the rule. They have tried to

799
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,959
Speaker 1: make themselves invisible. Well, congratulations, you're fucking invisible. But BC,

800
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: they need to fix the gloves. And I know this

801
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: is a ridiculous kind of point that people make all

802
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: the time. I did look into this. Can I tell

803
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: you what I found?

804
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: Yes? Did you find Trevor Whitman at the end of this.

805
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: Right, Well, yes and no. There are a lot of

806
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: claims made about glove design, and I can tell you

807
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: that relative the claims relative to what has been studied

808
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: to prove or disprove them, is very limited. But we

809
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: do know something. Okay, here's what we know. In twenty

810
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: twenty two, the Association of Ringside Physicians commissioned to study

811
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: to look at UFC, Belator and PFL gloves at that

812
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: time to look at the incident rate of ipokes. And

813
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: what they found was that the Bellatore power lot glove,

814
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: which by the way, was introduced in his last year

815
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: at Bellator by then promoter Bjorn Rebne. It changed the

816
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: foam inside. It wasn't just a glove geometry issue, but

817
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: it curved the gloves and what they found was that

818
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: it had a statistically significantly lower incident rate, to the

819
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: point where they now recommended any kind of glove that

820
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: has curvature around the knuckles. You might note the Pride

821
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: glove also rise in same and.

822
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: There was a lot of side by side pictures on

823
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: the air side of this.

824
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: I'll wrap up. I'll wrap up. Trevor Whitman has a

825
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: system called the Onyx system which curves the fingertips to

826
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: a degree. The point is the Trevor system. The Pride gloves,

827
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: those have not actually been studied, but the Bellatore power

828
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Lot glove has been studied, and just last month September

829
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five, the Association of Ringside Physicians, the

830
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: dominant medical board in the entire sport re recommended a

831
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: curved gloves to minimize the amount of injuries. It feels

832
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: like to MEBC everyone is either in one camp or

833
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: the other. They want a technological change or a rule change,

834
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: and my attitude is, how about a little bit of

835
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: both To really stomp the shit.

836
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 2: That would be the smart way to do it. But

837
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: don't forget Bjorn had MMA union entanglements at one point,

838
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: so you know they're ever gonna approve a glove that

839
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: he was part of. Kind of half kidding. My larger

840
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: point is Jim Miller had a great video where he

841
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: put on the UFC glove and basically said, it's not

842
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: forcing my fingers out. That's because of you know, entrained

843
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: muy Thai or he called the response to like the

844
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: bitch reaction inside of you. But he even said, Luke,

845
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: you take away the point or the purse, people are

846
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: automatically going to adjust. It seems like it's that simple.

847
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: Can we take the can we take the steps so

848
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: we can avoid this happening again? All right, Luke, the future,

849
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: it's obviously going to depend on how quickly askman. I'll

850
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: come back. Dana confirmed they want to run it back.

851
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 2: They should run it back. Is if this not a

852
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: horrible scenario, what if it gives you another main event,

853
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: So maybe it's not a horrible scenario. What if they

854
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: ran this back and say March and then we're able

855
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 2: to promote a John Jones versus Poeton non title attraction

856
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 2: at MS or at the White House in June. As

857
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: the winner fights for the undisputed championship, they could win

858
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: out if it goes this way. The reason why I

859
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: bring that up was a little back and forth on

860
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: Twitter between Pereira and John Jones. Pereira first saying let's

861
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: make the heavyweight division great again. He also posted a

862
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: video of him watching it live, and then John Jones

863
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: responded with Alex, I'd be down to bring the highest

864
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: skill level to the White House. I appreciate the respect

865
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: you showed. Let's dance.

866
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: Hey.

867
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 2: By the way, Tom aspal one showed respect when he

868
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: called out John two, but that wasn't good enough. Luke,

869
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: do you feel like this result? Because if Tom would

870
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: have won and called out either Gone or Jones, you

871
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 2: could wonder whether he could have forced his way into

872
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: the White House. Does this IPO guarantee that, in your eyes,

873
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 2: that we end up seeing Jones Pereerra at the White House?

874
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: And could we get it guaranteed on paper that the

875
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: winner will fight the winner of Espinal Gone, because then

876
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 2: you got a mini tournament with the biggest names possible.

877
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: The second part is impossible to say because if John wins,

878
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: does he fight again? Does he want to fight tom

879
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 1: Aspenall again? What if they rebook Aspinall gone? Let's say

880
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: for the the what's the January pay per view PLI whatever,

881
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna end up calling it by the Paramount era

882
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: And what if what if Aspinall goes in there and

883
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: just bludgeons gone.

884
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: That's why I think you push it off to like March,

885
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: because he's gonna any time for that thing to heal.

886
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll have to see what

887
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: the medical timeline looks like. But I just feel like

888
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: trying to set up a tournament where we're talking about

889
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: guys actively invested in the beyond.

890
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: After John just f them, I just think I just think.

891
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: That's so premature. We just can't really get there. It

892
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 1: would be nice, I mean, to your point, it would

893
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: solve a lot of problems.

894
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: But to make of John's trolling putting the duck with

895
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: the eyepatch.

896
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: As, I don't I mean, listen, I just don't care

897
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: what he says.

898
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: About what if he decided to talk to you about

899
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: his twenties.

900
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: Finally, at this point, brother, I don't even care. Okay, Okay,

901
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: that's fine, Wild, you don't see me beating down his

902
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: door for an interview.

903
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: Wild turn of events. Wow, but now's a good time

904
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: to remember something else, Folks put the camera. I mean yeah,

905
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began.

906
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: I'll tell you seventeen ninety five, Quevo invented tequila. Not

907
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 2: bad right. Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots,

908
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: the same family, the same land, you better believe it,

909
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: the same passion. Two hundred and thirty years later, Coevo's

910
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: still right here and every poor and every margarita in

911
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: every celebration. So enjoy the tequila that started at all, Quervo,

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Speaker 2: the tequila that invented tequila. Proximoquervo dot com. Please drink responsibly, Luke.

913
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 2: We are going to get Cuervo back in the building

914
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 2: for our UFC three twenty two pregame preview that's coming

915
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 2: up during fight week ahead of this big was that

916
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Speaker 2: November twenty six, I'll look fifteenth. November fifteenth is the

917
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 2: fight card Saturday night Madison Square Garden. So that week,

918
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: which is not that far away, we could be having

919
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: a fun round here with Cuervo. Yeah, eleven, am you

920
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: me and mystery guests? Wild card?

921
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: Miss mystery guest, I can tell you upfront is probably

922
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: riddled with STDs.

923
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: Would you say this mystery guest was already planning on

924
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 2: day drinking anyway, So this is just like.

925
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: If he wasn't planning on doing day drinking, he was

926
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 1: definitely going to be doing meth.

927
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 2: Okay, let's say a quick escalation.

928
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: I mean he was gonna he has the same definition

929
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: of sober that this guy does.

930
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, so good stuff right there. All right, let's keep

931
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: it going. A lot more to talk about on this fight,

932
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: car Let's go to topic number two. UFC three twenty

933
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: one's co main event brought an opportunity for the women's

934
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: straweight division to start a new chapter or a new era

935
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: or will it depending I guess what happens on Xiwang

936
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: against Chevchenko later this month. But instead it was Mackenzie

937
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 2: Durn's night, fulfilling her potential by claiming that vacant one

938
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,439
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty pound title one hundred fifteen pound title

939
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: with a unanimous decision win over Viena Jangidoba in their rematch.

940
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: Luca took years of personal perseverance for Dern through multiple defeats,

941
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: setbacks both in and out of the cage. It probably

942
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 2: didn't hurt that jeangwe lea vacated or title or open

943
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 2: up this window, but and is finally a UFC champion.

944
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: What was the major difference in your eyes between the

945
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: version of durn we saw on Saturday night and the

946
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: one that had lost four of her last eight heading in.

947
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 2: Because it's just her third win in a row, we

948
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: give her that credit, But it did seem like a

949
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: different Dern on Saturday? Or did it?

950
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: What do you I'd say a modestly different version. I

951
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: I somewhat challenge the premise of the question.

952
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: You know there is a challenge, and the challenge is

953
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: if Walley doesn't give it up, like.

954
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: There's no way Wayley Jong doesn't beat the fuck out

955
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: of both of them.

956
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 2: True, But like I guess it's a better question. Would

957
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 2: any other champion in straweight history have had a problem

958
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: with either one of those two fires on Saturday?

959
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: Dude? I think a prime you'll Wanta beats the fuck

960
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: out of both of them too.

961
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: Some people want you wanted to get back in there

962
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: at thirty eight to try to get that back.

963
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean, we took a

964
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: lot of damage with the end of her career, but we're.

965
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: Dunk We're dunking on Dern here because of the division's

966
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: history reputation.

967
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm not dunking on her. I'm simply saying, like, here's

968
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: the here's the problem with that title fight. Win Dern

969
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: did everything she could. I think, given her abilities, she

970
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: did everything she could. I think, relatively speaking, the jab

971
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: was there, the job was there, and I thought some

972
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: of her movement was better as well, in and out

973
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: of pocket was better.

974
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: No defense, though much better defense in the.

975
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: First fight, much better defense on the first I don't

976
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: think the yeah, okay, well fair point, but at least

977
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: she had some this time. But at the same time,

978
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 1: it's like, it's like, dude, I hate this kind of shit,

979
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: right where someone wins a UFC title and you're talking

980
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: about all the reasons why it shouldn't be this way,

981
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: But the reality is if it was, if Jean Wilee

982
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: was still there, it just no way she gets it.

983
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: And more to the point, we see, like you know,

984
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: there's always debates about like in a linear reflection of

985
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: all the champions in a weight class. Hey, who's the

986
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: best one ever in the weight class. It's a standard

987
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: kind of question, but there's typically some level of escalation

988
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: that makes you want to say it.

989
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: She never had those in between fights against the former championship,

990
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 2: she got knocked out by Andro.

991
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: And more to the point, you go back ten years

992
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: or something look at Joanna's reign and you're like, dude,

993
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: jo Wanna would a prime Jojuana would smoke McKenzie during it.

994
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: I don't.

995
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even be very competitive, im I don't know

996
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: about that. That's a little different. But certainly prime Juana,

997
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: I think would handle. So you're just maybe a primer

998
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: rose to to a degree, and you just kind of wonder.

999
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, this division does not appear to be

1000
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: the things don't appear to be escalating in that way.

1001
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: Did durn get better? Yes? Did she deserve to be

1002
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: the winner on Saturday Night? No question? In my mind,

1003
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: three two four one was exactly the right scorecard, So

1004
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: it's not a question of like, given the circumstances, was

1005
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: she deserving Yes, And it is nice that you have

1006
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: finally have someone first fighter ever wins ADCC gold, IBJJF

1007
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: World Championship and a UFC title. I think it was

1008
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: our friend, my friend Ovin. Was it Ovin who put this?

1009
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: We have no Gil Cruz, excuse me. McKenzie Durn's the

1010
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: first woman to win the IBJJF World Championship, ADCC gold

1011
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: and a UFC title. This is cool, man, This is

1012
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: a cool moment. So it's not like she some terrible

1013
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: Oh she can't do anything.

1014
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: She showed a wholesome moment too. Before Luke changes this

1015
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: point here at age thirty two, daughter moa there, like,

1016
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: you're I mean girl, Dad, Like that's amazing, right, that's pretty.

1017
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: This is amazing. This is an amazing moment for the both

1018
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: of them, and I certainly applaud the resilient. Dude. If

1019
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: you can say one thing about McKenzie Dern, she has

1020
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: been incredibly resilient.

1021
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: That's the story of her winning.

1022
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: Now, that's the story. The story is not that she's

1023
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: such a powerhouse of skill and ability that she is

1024
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 1: changing the way we look at the weight class or something,

1025
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: or you know, dominating in historically interesting ways. No, but

1026
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: she fucking has a dog in her that allows her

1027
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 1: to stay in these relevant positions, keeps swinging the acts,

1028
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: and sure enough she did it long enough where this

1029
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: finally befell her. She's deserving of this. I'm just not

1030
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,240
Speaker 1: gonna call it historically excellent.

1031
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 2: I have to say that too. I mean, it took

1032
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 2: this great division, which has been the deepest of the

1033
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: women's division since starting that's one fifteen in late twenty fourteen.

1034
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: It's on rough, rough times.

1035
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: Just it.

1036
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: That's just the accurate truth of where it's at right there.

1037
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 2: But given the opportunity, I picked against Dern because I

1038
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 2: thought ultimately she would make a key mistake or or

1039
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: would not fold. Because physically she's there, she's going to

1040
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: go for it. But I got to give her credit

1041
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 2: within the context of this matchup, the rematch with Jander Robo,

1042
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: the jab was there, the poise was there, the boxing

1043
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: was there, and I think ultimately Luke this Okay, this

1044
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: is a step down from the championship level straweight fighting

1045
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: we've seen in the past, But I don't think it

1046
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: was as bad as like that Rocky Pennington Bueno. So no,

1047
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: I don't like that. Do not look like a lead that,

1048
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: So I'll give her the credit within the context. Do

1049
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: you think this ultimately went her way? Not just because

1050
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: she had the heavier punches, and it was good to

1051
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: see Jason Pirello in her corner and then vibing and connecting.

1052
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: But Jander Obo had ease ease, taking down Dern with ease,

1053
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: but couldn't do enough in top positions to really warrant I.

1054
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: I hated this fight from Verna Jangerobo. I hated two

1055
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: snaps up her perform. Hated it.

1056
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: All you guys with old ball.

1057
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: I have no idea where that car. Do you have

1058
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: any idea where that reference comes from? Martin? Not a

1059
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 1: bad guess, but same network in Living Color. Okay, BC.

1060
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: She got nine takedowns. Okay, so she had a higher

1061
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: than a fifty percent success rate on She.

1062
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: Said more with them than Johnson Almeida did. Okay, she did.

1063
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 2: You got to give her that.

1064
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: That's he did nothing. She only engaged in hammer fisting

1065
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: rather than any kind of meaningful ground pound. You asked, like,

1066
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: what McKenzie Durna do right, whatever else you want to

1067
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: say about her, she seeks offense everywhere. Yes, you put

1068
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: her on her back, it's offense right away. She's elbowing,

1069
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: the guard is in play, she's setting up grips. You

1070
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And you have to kind of

1071
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: you have to play around that and on the feet.

1072
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: She certainly was trying to win the fight the whole time.

1073
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: She's trying to I guess what I'm saying, Doe. She's

1074
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 1: got a perseverite dog inside of her and that's why

1075
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 1: she wins. But jan Ji Roba to get that fucking

1076
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: takedown over and over and over again. Not throw elbows,

1077
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: and yet in the clinch standing throwing elbows, and in

1078
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: other circumstances throwing elbows. Not in the most important kind, dude,

1079
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: Charles Lavera, what happens when he starts playing games underneath

1080
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: from guard? Guys either try to get away, but if

1081
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: they stay, they fucking hammer him, yes, because they make

1082
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: him pay for that open style. She did none of that.

1083
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: To the point, BC, this is what drives me nuts.

1084
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: If I went and saw a regional MMA show and

1085
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: I saw that, well, that's just regional MMA. You got

1086
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: guys who are new enough where you're just like, they

1087
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: don't have the skills yet to do this she has pulled.

1088
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: This was her twenty six professional MMA fight. Blacked on

1089
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu. You're thirty seven years old. You are not

1090
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: gonna be back here. If you lose's your toughness. She's

1091
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: The problem is not that she's not skilled.

1092
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: This is my point.

1093
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: This is my point. It is fucking unforgivable at age

1094
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: thirty seven in a UFC title fight to either not

1095
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: ground and power because reasons all, I don't want to

1096
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,760
Speaker 1: give up position and lose the fight. You fucking lost.

1097
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: Anyway, She's facing a BJJ expert, so that had to

1098
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 2: be part of that.

1099
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: What is the choice here? The conservative game plan she

1100
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: went in sealed her fate. And more to the point,

1101
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 1: what's the other explanation? I see it enough now where

1102
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, do the fighters and their coaches actually think

1103
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: you can get nine takedowns with I mean, I think

1104
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: like fifteen minutes of control time, some absurd amount of

1105
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: control time, but not throw ground and pound and win fights.

1106
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 2: No submission attempts, no submission attempts.

1107
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:38,720
Speaker 1: Hello, newsflash, you cannot. You cannot. Either either you chose

1108
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: a conservative game plan that you that you knew was

1109
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: conservative because that's what you wanted to do, or you

1110
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: thought being conservative was actually like a thing that the

1111
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: rules wouldn't punish. In either case, terrible decision, terrible. It

1112
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 1: drove me nuts. To watch. I wish.

1113
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: I also think she could have stepped on the gas

1114
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 2: more man. I mean, look, she got to carry out

1115
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: five ground stamina, but this is the championship level. I

1116
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: don't think she was offensive enough. She had some success

1117
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: with her connor striking. I think if she would have

1118
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: stepped on the gas more. Yes, she would have taken

1119
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: some big right hands. But she didn't do enough to

1120
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: try to make Dran uncomfortable. It was more in her

1121
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 2: eyes about the control time for that. So it sucks.

1122
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: Is this going too far? Henry su Hudo celebrating the

1123
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 2: accomplishments of Dern Kenzie. Dern is the greatest female combat

1124
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 2: sports athlete of all time Holly Holm online one. But

1125
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: is there an argument here?

1126
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: Lod, you don't need a dash between all in time

1127
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: unless all time is describing a noun.

1128
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's not first.

1129
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: I just want to be just for everyone out there.

1130
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: All time only needs the dash in between. If you're

1131
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: talking about like all Time fighter, he's a fart machines.

1132
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: We know this all time fart box. Yeah, so all

1133
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: time only needs the dash in between if it's acting

1134
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 1: as a modifier in some kind of way.

1135
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 2: Thank you, community, college professor, it's not your I need

1136
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: I need, I need patches on my sleep.

1137
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1138
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: No, I think that's a little silly.

1139
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: But but but we're not taking shout out to Derny.

1140
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: However, however, however, is she you know, does the history

1141
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: that she represents and like the story and what she's accomplished?

1142
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: Is this interesting and relevant and a big obviously a

1143
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: very big accomplishment to do all this. There's simply no question.

1144
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: Was that her mom cage side who ran in the

1145
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 2: cage after?

1146
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Because they almost saw a video of her mom celebrating,

1147
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: But the one I saw was she was still in

1148
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: the stands.

1149
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 2: We almost never hear anything about her, we know obviously

1150
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: know a lot about her out there, but good to

1151
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 2: see in that moment right there. Let's talk about what

1152
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 2: could be next for durn. Here's Mackenzie talking about the

1153
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: landscape of the division.

1154
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 8: You said, now you have a target on your back.

1155
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 8: You had mentioned Tatiana Suarez as possible first challengers. That

1156
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 8: the name you want here, You're just gonna let the

1157
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 8: UFC kind of figure it out.

1158
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know how much say I have

1159
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 9: him being a champion, now, you know what I mean?

1160
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 9: I don't know how much my word and my decisions

1161
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 9: get into play, but I'm here to defend it. So

1162
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 9: whoever gets sent to me, you know, I'll be ready

1163
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 9: for it. So I don't know we leave, but I

1164
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 9: definitely like to just fight touch and I think maybe

1165
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 9: she gets one more fight and you know, but yeah,

1166
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 9: I want to get it.

1167
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 2: I want to have a logu. Luc and I were

1168
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: talking about this beforehand, because there is an argument to

1169
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: make of like how far can durned Stargo now that

1170
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: she's the champion. She's very marketable, et cetera. I'd love

1171
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: to see her against Tatiana Suarez that the ground battle

1172
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: could be fantastic. They're both, they're both very game. It

1173
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 2: could be a heck of a fight. If John Wayleey

1174
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: loses to Valentine at UFC three twenty two, is there

1175
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: a world where Dern makes a title defense next? Let's

1176
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: say it Suarez. Let's say she wins and then Wyley

1177
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 2: comes back down after a competitive loss, and that's We're

1178
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 2: all gonna favor Whaley like we should. But is that

1179
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 2: a big fight? Will people care about that?

1180
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 4: Well?

1181
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 2: Has this woken up some attention and buzz for women's MMA?

1182
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: Or no, no, no, I don't know what the evidence

1183
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: for that one.

1184
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: Do you think Waley comes down with a loss or not?

1185
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: That's a more interesting question because if she does, she's

1186
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: a tough fight for anybody Long Island.

1187
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 2: Look like the idea of Rose cutting this one to

1188
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: fifteen one more time.

1189
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 1: Someone brought that up on my post fight chat as

1190
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: well as you want to talk as well, why do

1191
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: you like that one so much?

1192
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 3: I just feel like Rose is kind of in no

1193
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 3: man's land at twenty five, and like BC was saying,

1194
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 3: straw weight right now just feels so weak and there's like, yeah,

1195
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 3: sure you could do the Tatiana fight. I just I

1196
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 3: have zero interest.

1197
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: In that right now.

1198
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, Tatiana, her last two fight has been very underwhelming,

1199
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 3: and uh, I just feel like Rose is at least like,

1200
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 3: oh Rose dern. Could I could get behind that?

1201
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: You know?

1202
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a matchup that never happened and could

1203
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: have maybe should have.

1204
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I mean yeah, golly dude. Honestly, unfortunately the

1205
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: main and Comaine were heavyweight and women's strawweight. These two

1206
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: divisions are two of the most in disrepair. Yes, and

1207
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: I think some of that was shown to us. This

1208
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: was kind of the problem.

1209
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: Way there's no one coming up, and I'm not in

1210
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 2: Suarez isn't coming up. She just lost a tidelet opportunity,

1211
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 2: but we still physically consider her elite. There's like no

1212
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: one else. Everybody else is a retread. Everyone else is onrage.

1213
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: Uh who else we missed the hold? Loopy god Ricci.

1214
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like a win is an interesting one.

1215
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 3: She drn and Loopy fought like two fights ago durn Beaters,

1216
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 3: so it's.

1217
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: Like, okay, but that doesn't preclude her from getting a

1218
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: title shot. That's a little different.

1219
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: It's just like, why do we We've already seen it

1220
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 3: and it was recent. It was like twenty twenty four.

1221
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is not this is not the highest

1222
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: elite times for this division.

1223
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking at the I'm looking at the rankings here,

1224
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: Tatiana nan Amanda Lemos, dern Go Dinez, Yasmin Lucindo.

1225
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean a lot of those fighters are

1226
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 2: in their mid to late thirties and and in retreadville.

1227
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 2: Excuse me.

1228
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think in the end, one of the problems

1229
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: with three twenty one was that, you know, again, they

1230
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 1: were I think in both cases, let's get a new

1231
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: champion at women's strawweight. Let's let's let either the tom

1232
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: or the gone era start start anew and instead, Yes,

1233
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: you did get a new champion, but in a way

1234
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: that felt like, you know, because something was missing and

1235
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: in the main event, something never got started. It was

1236
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: just a problem, you know.

1237
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. This is uh okay, it is what

1238
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 2: it is. Let's go to topic number three. Hey, Umar

1239
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: Normaga metof rebounding from that title loss in January to

1240
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: Morob Devlishvilian fully healthy this time. But did he or

1241
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 2: did he not fully live up to the challenge from

1242
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: UFC CEO Dana White that Thursday's final press conference, where

1243
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: he ultimately said, if you want this to be a

1244
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 2: number one contender fight, then dominate and do something to

1245
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: get my attention. Part of the reason why Umar was

1246
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 2: unable to despite an unanimous decision on thirty to twenty

1247
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: seven scorecards on all three was because Mario Bautista was

1248
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 2: game as shit, riding an eight fight win streak. I

1249
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: have to take my head off to him figuratively, because

1250
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 2: Mario fought well, he had that toe lock cramp thing

1251
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 2: going for a submission, attempting round one, but Luke, at

1252
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 2: the end of the day, did Umar and Normaga Medoff

1253
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 2: do enough against a very difficult opponent to secure the

1254
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 2: next shot at the winner of morab Yon two in December.

1255
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: Man, this is an interesting one for me. I'd be

1256
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: curious to hear what you guys have to say about

1257
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: this one, especially Okay, so in many ways this went

1258
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 1: kind of as expected. We said on the pregame preview.

1259
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: Mario Bautista. The fans are still bitter at him from

1260
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: the Jose Aldo barding ness and blah blah blah. But

1261
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: he's a good fighter, very well schooled, well rounded. Great

1262
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: Cardio has good attitude for always seeking offense and trying

1263
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: to wrestle up. You really gotta love his moxie. But

1264
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: then he was up against someone who was probably technically

1265
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: superior to him, and he can be hard to look

1266
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: good against. That's kind of what you got. You got

1267
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: an Umar who was better. For sure, he could take down.

1268
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: At times, he could pass and from past he could

1269
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: go to turtle, turtle to the back, and then you

1270
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: know various other sort of control position.

1271
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 2: His grappling is awesome.

1272
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: This fight told me I'm picking morob I'm picking. Yeah,

1273
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm picking morob. Dude, do you have y'all noticed that

1274
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: Umar and Usman have the exact same skills and strengths

1275
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: but also the same weakness. They're both very good. They're good.

1276
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: They have you know that that that lead like like

1277
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: like flicking front kick that has is so no, no,

1278
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: he's he's got the skill and he can transition to

1279
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: the back and then hold it effortlessly, which is why

1280
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: even a guy as good as Bautista had problems. But

1281
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: like Usman, who can do the exact same thing, neither

1282
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: of them have pop. Neither of them.

1283
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 2: It's not well, it's not just pop. I think it's

1284
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: a disconnection between the skill set and a finish ability,

1285
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: like some fighters fill that gap to connect it all

1286
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 2: like Kabibe by fighting meme or I mean, or if

1287
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 2: you're Islam, you you're explosive when the moments there Islam arrives.

1288
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: Both brothers are too technically great and don't connect it

1289
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 2: to when it's time to go.

1290
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: It's they deal with opposition that are hard to hold down,

1291
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: which I can respect. But dude, Habib, people are like,

1292
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: oh Habib had you know also he had a good

1293
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: ground game. What does that mean Habib had good submissions

1294
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: and violent ground impound like he would make people suffer

1295
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: underneath him with physical punishment. So he's making you play

1296
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,959
Speaker 1: a different games. He's working on positional advancement. He's working

1297
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: on positional pinning. He's working on ground and pound and

1298
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: subs and they're all working together. That is not what

1299
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,479
Speaker 1: Usman or Umar do at all. Bros. You cannot beat

1300
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: Morab dawallash Wheely if you cannot hurt him. That's the

1301
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: number one fucking rule.

1302
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 2: Okay, the one thing I want to count of that,

1303
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: and I think in almost all cases you're right and

1304
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: it's been proven. But injured with a broken left hand

1305
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: or arm early in that fight, Umar was still competitive

1306
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: and close, which made you want to wonder, what does

1307
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: it look like if he's fully healthy? Are you just

1308
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: saying that seeing him fully healthy against again in this

1309
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 2: fight against Bautista, I get it, there wasn't there's missing

1310
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 2: that extra gear, but I think it's in there, and

1311
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: I think sometimes it's dependent upon the challenge coming back

1312
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: at you.

1313
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 1: You're asking me to evaluate things we did not see.

1314
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling you to evaluate everything that we did.

1315
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: Okay, but the what what did we see early against Morob?

1316
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, he's got the skilly.

1317
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is he has every single skill at

1318
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: such a high level that he has the wrestler.

1319
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: Accept the ability to hurt people.

1320
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: True, but I think he's the only one that could

1321
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: beat Morob without necessarily needing to go through him.

1322
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: You can't beat Morob without hurting him. I'm sorry, it

1323
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 1: can't be done. It's a necessary question.

1324
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: His guest tank because it was a high pace fight,

1325
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 2: a very high pace fight.

1326
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: Yes, dude, Mario, dude, Mario's fuck. I keep saying this

1327
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: ship Mario is good.

1328
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta say it. He's good, very good.

1329
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: He made at a Yes, was he as good as Umar? No,

1330
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: he's not as good as Umar, but Umar is real good.

1331
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: He made thick of that submission attempt. I know it

1332
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: wasn't like so.

1333
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: This is a total So the reason why this fails

1334
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: is he would have to get more aligned with him.

1335
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: You'll notice that Umar is off at an angle here, right,

1336
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: so he's almost cross body. That's going to limit it.

1337
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: But like one of the ways you typically see the

1338
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: toe hold limited is someone will straighten the leg. So

1339
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: the straighter the leg is the harder it is to do.

1340
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: The easieress to do is when the leg is bent

1341
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: and you can put it right behind their rear end.

1342
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: But he got off at just an angle to kind

1343
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: of getting it.

1344
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it's rare that you see in their

1345
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 2: magaf in that position.

1346
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, even though he would have tapped.

1347
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 2: A lot of pain, he dealt with a lot of

1348
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: pain and I think it messed with him a bit

1349
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: in the in the second half of that fight. Ale

1350
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: though it was only god.

1351
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: He get it was a flash knock down. Did he

1352
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: get knocked on in the second? Yes.

1353
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is he ate that huge knee in

1354
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 2: the second He got out of this submission issue without panicking,

1355
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: without much you know issue, although he has said to

1356
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: endure it. I don't know, Look did it. I'm not

1357
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: as confident that he beats Morob. I still believe he's

1358
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: the only one well I don't want to say the

1359
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: only one healthy Piodrian in the rematch if he fights

1360
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: at full.

1361
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: Okay, but gun to your head, you got to pick

1362
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: one to beat Morob.

1363
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm still good at and I'm not. But what I'm

1364
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 2: also saying, he's not there yet because I think people

1365
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: are starting to say, Okay, well he's not as perfect

1366
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: as Islam and Hbib. No he's not. He's not the

1367
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 2: same fighters. Then he's quasi. He's from the same group.

1368
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: He had the same come up and winning World Sambo

1369
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: championships under the late Abdulmann app But just because he's

1370
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 2: not them, and just because like his brother, at least

1371
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 2: up to this point, he's not a major finish threat.

1372
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: He's so much closer to being a finished product than

1373
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: every other fighter in the game. Skill wise, I think

1374
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 2: it's one of the ten best fighters in this game. Yes,

1375
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: and once he does, if he can pull it together,

1376
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: he's going to be incredible. But when you look at

1377
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: this division, unless Song Ya Doong beats Sean O'Malley, which

1378
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 2: is possible if they booked that fight soon, and it's

1379
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: very possible unless he does. Because it's fresh blood from

1380
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: Arob who else?

1381
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: Who else?

1382
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: Are you gonna give it?

1383
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: Are you gonna go? It's Ubar earned the opportunity.

1384
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: Are you going to go as a hobby because he's

1385
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 2: got the streak just to fill time?

1386
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: No?

1387
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no, no. Umar is the guy. But I'm

1388
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: just saying I'm tired of watching these guys win fights,

1389
01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 1: because it's not tired of strong word, it is a

1390
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: to watch them string together offense in so many dimensions,

1391
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: so quickly and so effortlessly, and you can tell they're

1392
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: a handful for basically everybody, including from a rob to

1393
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 1: they're handful for Morob. But I'm telling you, if Ousman

1394
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: keeps having games where he can't really hurt the opposition,

1395
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: not the ones from Bellatore, but the elite ones Paul

1396
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: Hughes types, it's going to catch up.

1397
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 2: With unless he becomes a more bigger submission threat. You know,

1398
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: he's a huge submission threat, but he's got to be

1399
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: a lights out submission.

1400
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 1: But like again, look at the submission prowess of Charles Lavera.

1401
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: He was good at jiu jitsu, but how it uneven

1402
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: results using it in fights until he started knuckling people

1403
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: and then everything got a lot easier for him.

1404
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you make of people who say Habib's

1405
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: riding him too hard that this training camp reportedly started

1406
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: in March, I mean he's in ridiculous shape, Umari.

1407
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm in any position to tell Habib.

1408
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 2: Trading this guy or no, can Habib get into him mentally?

1409
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: Do you think Habib is it all? Looks to be

1410
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 2: an incredible coach and the Father's system behind him, and

1411
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: they have javieror Benda's in the corner. But is this

1412
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 2: something that's fixable? Because I'm not panicking and I'm not

1413
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 2: saying he doesn't deserve Like, would he benefit from not

1414
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: getting Morob next? He might? He might actually benefit from

1415
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 2: that because he doesn't have that masterpiece yet. He doesn't

1416
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: doesn't have that breakthrough win where he just slices through.

1417
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 2: It's got the sand. He can fight, but he doesn't

1418
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: have that one where it's just like, holy shit, this

1419
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: is the guy. Can that be repaired? I don't fear

1420
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 2: that because I think the other areas are so ten

1421
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 2: out of ten that I think he'll figure it out,

1422
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: and I think he may win it without ever developing that.

1423
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: I think he may win the title without doing that.

1424
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: I think he's that freaking great.

1425
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really do.

1426
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 2: And I'm not blind to the holes in his game.

1427
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 2: We're talking about the holes in his game, But is

1428
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: that repairable? Can they bridge that gap? Can Habib get

1429
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 2: in his head and change something to get him to.

1430
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: Be that Habib can't make him anything. He's not, so

1431
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: we'll see what he is.

1432
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite fighters.

1433
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: I love him more. I mean he dude, I'm telling you,

1434
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: these guys who can't hurt people.

1435
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: His technique is out of control.

1436
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm with you. I'm with you, but I'm telling

1437
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: you it looks nice, and it is nice that you

1438
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: can do a lot with it. Can you beat the

1439
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 1: very best guys in the world with it? I have

1440
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: some doubts about that.

1441
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 2: Something's got to give, something's got to emerge from that

1442
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: skill set.

1443
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 1: It's not just that the rules favor damage more and

1444
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: so that's important to have. It's that the correspondence between

1445
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: winning and the ability to deliver meaningful punishment is so

1446
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: significant that if you're lacking in that, you can literally

1447
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: have all these other skills and it actually may not

1448
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: be enough. Punishment matters significantly.

1449
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 2: I will say, not only do the brothers Umar and Nuspan,

1450
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 2: which I agree with what you said, they lacked that

1451
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 2: finishing gear up to this point, they also overlook their

1452
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: opponents a little too much. Have you noticed this?

1453
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: Definitely does?

1454
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: I think Umar slightly did in this fight. I mean

1455
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 2: he told me when I interviewed him that you know,

1456
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna come in there, take him down and submit him.

1457
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: And he kind of you know, it looked like he

1458
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 2: was on pace to do that until he got caught

1459
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 2: in a submission. But I feel like that's becoming a trend.

1460
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: Maybe that can be.

1461
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 1: That's interesting, right because he also he was what a

1462
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: minus six.

1463
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 2: Fifty, which was insane.

1464
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: Which again and he looked better. Again, he was better.

1465
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: He was better. But did he look six fifty better?

1466
01:04:59,520 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 10: No?

1467
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: He did not.

1468
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 2: Let's see some backstage bushetto. You know, I love the

1469
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 2: stuff between these.

1470
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 6: Two guys, Chin Goldie kimber Chindi. He was a tough

1471
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 6: thank you thanks.

1472
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 2: You know, this was like Usman's Paul Fuse fight the

1473
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: first one. You know what, It's like a little bit push.

1474
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: This guy pushed me to the limit. You know I

1475
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 2: got I mean, he still one thirty to twenty seven,

1476
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 2: that's the thing.

1477
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 1: Should he have Should he have one? How'd you score

1478
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: that one? There? Long Onland?

1479
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 3: You gotta give round.

1480
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: I gave round as one who controlled the rest of

1481
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 2: that round after that knee knockdown?

1482
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: It was Umar did still? I mean, you made Umar

1483
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: work for it.

1484
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 3: This was also the card though, where they were really

1485
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: prioritizing damage and I feel like that was the most

1486
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 3: damage in that.

1487
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: That was a fun fight to watch though from you know,

1488
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: a real technical thriller, as you know. Let's talk about

1489
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 2: what could be next for Rumar if it's not the champion.

1490
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 2: Here's Umar talking about that.

1491
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 8: And in terms of your career, I think a lot

1492
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 8: of people want to see you fight for the title again,

1493
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 8: especially if it's job wins and wants a quick turnaround

1494
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:04,080
Speaker 8: for February before Ramadan. Would you be happy with that?

1495
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 8: Are you hoping to wait for the springtime?

1496
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 11: Of course I will be happy. I will be even

1497
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:14,320
Speaker 11: thankful and we'll see what's gonna next if it's not

1498
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 11: gonna happen before Ramadan. I if they will give it

1499
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 11: to me other fight, maybe with figuredo h a man

1500
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 11: is a habby, with any anybody else, I will. I

1501
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 11: will happy to fight because today I become a little

1502
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 11: better in cage because it's experience. You know, you need

1503
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 11: to spend a lot of time in the cage to

1504
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 11: become feeling there or like at home, you know, feel confidence,

1505
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 11: feel arena, feel fans, you know, and I won't fight.

1506
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 11: I won't find. I don't have anything else.

1507
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 3: I just have.

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01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 11: I just sleep, eat train.

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01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: We don't need. Yes, it's sleep, eat and train. That's it.

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01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 1: Luke.

1511
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 2: I mean, he is dedicated to He's gonna figure it.

1512
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna figure it out. But his Ramadan timeline in

1513
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 2: March may help him inadvertently because if Morob beats although

1514
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: and let's now though uh yahn, and let's say he

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01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 2: does it without much hassle, they got to slid on

1516
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: that schedule, he's gonna burut himself out. I know he's

1517
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 2: a freak, but like four times in one year, do

1518
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: you want him coming back in March? I'm I'm starting

1519
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 2: to talk myself into the idea that Umar needs the seasoning.

1520
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 2: He's right, he just told you there's nothing like like Luke.

1521
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: You know what, I think. Mario Bartista's okay and he's

1522
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 2: gonna bounce back because he needed a fight against a

1523
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,280
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1524
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 2: that he can do this. Who would be that name?

1525
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: If Umar is a lot, if they're gonna let let's

1526
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: say they give Umar a February comeback fight before Ramadan.

1527
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 2: Who is that name?

1528
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: Is it? Figaraedo?

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01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 2: For you like, would you be okay if it's a

1530
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: hobby got a title shot or would it have to

1531
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 2: be song? You don if he beats O Maley?

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Speaker 1: Song you don if he beats O Maly? Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: for sure you could.

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Speaker 2: I mean, would it be an insult if the hobby

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Speaker 2: got the tele show?

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Speaker 3: Right now?

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Speaker 1: I think I think the hobby is putting together the

1538
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Speaker 1: kind of resume that you absolutely cannot ignore. I guess

1539
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: what I would submit is he doesn't quite yet. Again,

1540
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: he's been he's been defying the odds this whole time.

1541
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't think he has quite the win yet where

1542
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: he has stamped his ticket to the championship. He might

1543
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: just need one more though.

1544
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: He might be their fallback if Morob wins. Would you

1545
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 2: probably want him back in April, May or June or

1546
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 2: what have you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, second quarter probably of twenty twenty.

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01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 2: So if that's Ramadan, yeah, so Umar Figuraedo, that'd be good.

1549
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Speaker 1: That'd be a good one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a hobby, just the same would they

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Speaker 1: They that one? Also? You know, like this is the

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Speaker 2: Him more to come in that division. But a fun

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Speaker 1: Here's my response, you need to worry about JDM first said.

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Speaker 2: What I don't like is that he said, if you

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01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:58,519
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01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: It's a great matchup if especially if obviously if, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's to give the Toporia. First of all, Toporia is

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Speaker 2: the one who's been calling for it. Okay, at one seventy,

1606
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 2: he has no issue with it. It seems Topori wants

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01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,160
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01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,280
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01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: I think he's Topori has a better shot. Long Island

1612
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 2: look hates this idea at Welterwait. He thinks Tapori is

1613
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 2: too small.

1614
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: He is too small, And I'm not saying it has.

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Speaker 3: To happen on that.

1616
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.

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01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 2: I don't I hate the seventy idea, Okay, but for

1618
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 2: it to happen at fifty five, wouldn't Islam have to

1619
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 2: lose against JDM. Wouldn't that have to increase the likelihood

1620
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: that then he would then come back? Because he's jack

1621
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 2: Jackie is right Islam.

1622
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: He's putting the way he looks, he looks big. I just.

1623
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: No, dude, if he goes out there and wins this

1624
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: year and he's not cutting down, hell no, hell no,

1625
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: Topori has to defend it again, maybe two more times.

1626
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: But I mean there's not a lot of time lef

1627
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: between now, right.

1628
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: If he's bulking up the right way by adding muscle, like,

1629
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: you can't just go back down again to make that happen. Yeah,

1630
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what they're gonna do

1631
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: with this one.

1632
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 2: Care about Hulk Cogan's Real American wrestling announcing Michael Chandler

1633
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 2: versus Chad Mendes.

1634
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 11: Uh?

1635
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: Is that the one that airs on Fox Nation? I

1636
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 1: don't know the real American freestyle I watched. I watched

1637
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 1: a little bit that over the weekend.

1638
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you into that?

1639
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:19,839
Speaker 4: Uh?

1640
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually a little bit. I mean, I don't know

1641
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 1: how big the audience is for that. I have strange preferences.

1642
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, that'll that just broke. It's gonna go

1643
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 2: down November twenty ninth in Chicago, Thank you very much.

1644
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: That's fun. They got a guy who I follow like

1645
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: a wrestling influencer, you know, Muggsy the Wrestling. He wrestled

1646
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: on the card on Saturday.

1647
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: All right, I like wrestling better than BJJ, but I

1648
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 2: don't really like both all that much, to be fair, Yeah,

1649
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 2: but what do you like seventies fi? Yeah, let's go

1650
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 2: to topic number four. Another big fight on the main

1651
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 2: card was in the heavyweight division. It wasn't big fun

1652
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, but Alexander Volkov edging

1653
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 2: al Jalton Almeta via split decision, and despite the absolutely

1654
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 2: puzzling game plan of Almeida, which included takedowns but almost

1655
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: no work from top position or offense at all, Volkoff escaped,

1656
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 2: extending his current win streak to five and one over

1657
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 2: the last six, which does include that loss to gond

1658
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 2: that no one believes should have been or not many

1659
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 2: So Luke should just like the question we asked about umar,

1660
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: should Volkov be in line to face the winner of

1661
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,879
Speaker 2: aspinall gone. Even though this fight sucked and we questioned

1662
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 2: Almida's IQ or understanding of the judging rules set. Did

1663
01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:34,759
Speaker 2: Volkov I? He didn't. This fight sucked, But is Volkov

1664
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 2: deserving after coming so close so many times and losing

1665
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: that big number one contender fight? Did he secure the

1666
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 2: big one?

1667
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:46,799
Speaker 1: There's nothing controversial about this win at all. Nothing. Volkov

1668
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,360
Speaker 1: is the only acceptable answer as who as to who

1669
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: won that bout? Jelton Almeida has no case at all?

1670
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 1: Whats so?

1671
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 3: So?

1672
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: DC was right on that hidden microphone when he just

1673
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 2: like said, this guy can't fight. Did you see to

1674
01:13:59,080 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 2: see that one?

1675
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 1: Yeah? I did see that. Who could disagree with him?

1676
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 1: Jelton'll made a very athletic Jelton'll made a good positional

1677
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:09,360
Speaker 1: jiu jitsu, good takedowns, Yeah, he obviously had Volkov just

1678
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: all kinds of bewildered with the takedown attempts without tripping

1679
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 1: out the post leg and then carrying the lead one.

1680
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: You know, that was very very good. But then did

1681
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: absolutely I need I need this. This is what I

1682
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,600
Speaker 1: mean about the vern Exangeroba fight me see, which is

1683
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 1: do the fighters understand what the rules are? And I'm

1684
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: being serious about this, Jlton know, do they understand getting

1685
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: a takedown? The judges now look at that as Okay,

1686
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: we're fighting here, now we're fighting there. You decided to

1687
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 1: put the fight there. That doesn't mean anything to them anymore.

1688
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you're just changing the place at which

1689
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: you're now contesting the fight, but changing the location of

1690
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,240
Speaker 1: the fight and the ways of which it is contested.

1691
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: Assuming it's you know, even if you're on top, doesn't

1692
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 1: mean anything. It doesn't mean anything. What means something is

1693
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: what you do after changing that. And he did nothing.

1694
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 1: He he did nothing. He did less than nothing. He

1695
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: just sat there and looked around and held positions, threatened submissions, nothing, nothing.

1696
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,879
Speaker 1: He held the lockdown one time. I believe as a consequence,

1697
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. The point I'm trying to make is

1698
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: he deserved to lose that fight. They the judges got

1699
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: this one right. Penalizing the ship that he was doing

1700
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: is exactly what you want the judges to do. They

1701
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: should be making an example out of performances like that.

1702
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: And they did good for Volkov, by the way, got

1703
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: a sweep and some good ground and pound in the

1704
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: first round. He was he was he last two rounds

1705
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: were a little anemic in both directions that we're just

1706
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: being honest. However, one guy at least had some attempt,

1707
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: some attempt at damage, and one guy didn't give it

1708
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 1: to the guy who did.

1709
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 2: I mean, if you fight like a thought, you're gonna

1710
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 2: guess all both guys, that's just great, that's what happened,

1711
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 2: you know, like it's unfortunate.

1712
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: Listen, is Volkov in this performance with any of the

1713
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 1: resiliency he showed, did you really make you believe he's

1714
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: got a shot against aspinall or gone? I mean, I

1715
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: guess maybe God, considering they have history, but that that

1716
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 1: that that gun that we saw look great in that

1717
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: main event, probably not is the he's.

1718
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: Gonna deserve a shot. Hell I always felt like Volkoff

1719
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 2: would get there. He's he's got it. Now here's Volkoff

1720
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 2: making his own case on the mic after the fight

1721
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 2: for that title shot? Do you believe that you should

1722
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 2: be next? After tonight?

1723
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 12: I know it wasn't like a great performance, not not

1724
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 12: because of me, but who else I don't know right

1725
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 12: now who else should fight for the title? Maybe Almeida

1726
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 12: or no, who I don't know, Like Blaze, he'll lose

1727
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 12: already Damaspanal and maybe he will fight with a guy

1728
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 12: who who loses fight. I know, like it looked like

1729
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 12: I should have been next. Like we will see what

1730
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 12: happened with Alex Pereira. Of course he want to go

1731
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 12: uh after the division like us, he can do anything.

1732
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 12: But if he will stay the same, I should go next.

1733
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 12: So I don't know what I will do as a

1734
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 12: champion yet, but it should be me.

1735
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs to sit out and wait for it.

1736
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 2: I mean, look, the good part about if there's any

1737
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 2: good part about the Ipoke fallout, is that we're a

1738
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 2: little bit more interested for sure to see Aspinall Gone too.

1739
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 2: Let's say you do that early spring, then you do

1740
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 2: that heavyweight fight for non title at the White House,

1741
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 2: and you try to do your best to promote it

1742
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,600
Speaker 2: as the winner fights for the championship, whether or not

1743
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,880
Speaker 2: that's true whatever, But the winner of Aspinall Gone versus

1744
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 2: Volkoff late summer, that's another pay per view main event

1745
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: or pl main event. That's not bad. I mean Aspiral

1746
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 2: Volcloff first fight quickly.

1747
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,760
Speaker 1: As the main event is a dead letter, be real.

1748
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: Okay, what about in a soccer staium in England.

1749
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: Okay, you change the atmospherics, and I think it's a

1750
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:38,679
Speaker 1: slightly different count.

1751
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: Like if if Aspircall knocks out Gone, then there's some

1752
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 2: buzz there. You can try to build on that there.

1753
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: We'll see if they do whatever. But would you have it?

1754
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:48,919
Speaker 2: I guess what I'm saying is the first fight Aspinall

1755
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 2: took knocked Volkoff down and then submitted them so quickly

1756
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: with that, uh with the chicken wing there. Do you

1757
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 2: see that the second fight going any different? Or do

1758
01:17:57,720 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 2: you have to see the gun rematch first?

1759
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 1: I think have gone excuse me, the problems of Volkov's

1760
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: takedown defense, I haven't gone anywhere, and Aspinall is going

1761
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 1: to be able to exploit it. And so you know,

1762
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: I would say this. Volkov has steadily brick by brick

1763
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: worked on his grappling defense. He might be a little

1764
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 1: harder to submit this time, but I just certainly would

1765
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: not have.

1766
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to be more of an offensive shootout on

1767
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 2: the feet. Let's see what we got here, Tom watch glory.

1768
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: There to be a damn problem. But uh, quickly, here's

1769
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: Dana dunking on Almeida as he should.

1770
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 8: Even though Jaelton got all the takedowns in then troll.

1771
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 8: He just wasn't doing anything. Yeah, even Ben Askrin listen, well,

1772
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 8: Ben Askern was like, why is Jaylton like allergic to

1773
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 8: throwing punches?

1774
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 7: In there was his exactly, you can't win a fight

1775
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 7: by just laying on top of somebody. That's not how

1776
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 7: it works. So I was actually very happy with the

1777
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 7: way the judges scored that fight.

1778
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 2: Thanks Dana, I actually agree with you.

1779
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right, He's completely right.

1780
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 2: Let's keep going down the card here. I can't believe

1781
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: we're saying as Alexander rackittch has lost four straight fights,

1782
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 2: and while the topic probably should be about unbeaten thirty

1783
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: six year old as a Matt Murza Khanoff, is he

1784
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 2: now kind of creeping into contention. I do want to

1785
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: ask you first, where did we go from here with Rackage?

1786
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 1: What do we heavyweight? He should go to heavyweight?

1787
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope more of those heavyweights like Blahovich yep,

1788
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: eventually YEARI I'd like to see all those guys are not.

1789
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: Saying he has to blow up super big, but you're

1790
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: walking I bet you his walk around way is close

1791
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 1: to two thirty even two forty fucking bill. He's enormous.

1792
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 1: Go to heavyweight. I think he's faster than them, he's

1793
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,320
Speaker 1: more athletic than them. It's a fresh start. If it

1794
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: doesn't work, you can go back down. You don't have

1795
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: to change your body composition in the same kind of way.

1796
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 1: Go to heavyweight because right now at light heavyweight do

1797
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: when you got guys, we talked about it on the

1798
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 1: pregame preview. We nailed that one. The hand speed, the

1799
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 1: foot speed, the fluidity of movement is just too much

1800
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: for a guy like Rackage when Muzakhanoff can do those

1801
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 1: kinds of things, and dude, he was just reaching for

1802
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: the takedown. I went back and I watched real closely.

1803
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 1: His eyes Wreckage's eyes were on the leg. He didn't

1804
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 1: even see it coming, which is why you know whenever

1805
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: that happens in lands with extra authority. Dude, he should

1806
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: go to heavyweight. You know you're not gonna have to

1807
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: deal with guys with the speed of Murza Khanov.

1808
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,600
Speaker 2: Upa Kan deserves a fight now, I mean this was

1809
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: a big fight for it. He deserves a big fight.

1810
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, he beat He beat. Dude. Look at the

1811
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 1: ease with which he beat Rackage, who again looked like

1812
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: he was in insane shape. Yes, here he couldn't do that.

1813
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: Here he had to battle back from incredible adversity. Where's

1814
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: the Kanoff dispatched him?

1815
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:30,759
Speaker 2: We mentioned the preliminary feature about did Aussie quilly uh Quillan?

1816
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: This can't be a real name.

1817
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 2: Quillan sall killed this.

1818
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: His name looks like the scrabble board when like, you

1819
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: know what I mean, when you've got all the pieces

1820
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: handed out, you're like to have.

1821
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: The ten days notice against Kelvin Gastlin's look like nostro?

1822
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 2: Howk Prost? Is that the KO of the year because

1823
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 2: dude hot Brost was out hold.

1824
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the year everyone's been talking about

1825
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: on social media. This is the year of the spinning

1826
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: back elbow. Yes, so I don't know if it'll win

1827
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: Knockout of the Year.

1828
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: Lauryn Murphy Holy Roan Murphy's got a great one.

1829
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: But in terms of just you know, violent authority, this

1830
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: is the KO of the year. And he even said

1831
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 1: I saw an interview he did with I think UFC

1832
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 1: on TNT backstage and he was like, you know, I've

1833
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: never done anything like that before. He does have some

1834
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,479
Speaker 1: stoppage wins with his hands, so he's like he's used

1835
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: to that, but he just threw it and it worked

1836
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: and it was the best one he's ever done.

1837
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 2: On your dad A big fan of this guy or what?

1838
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we were raving about him. I think

1839
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 3: the reason it's so fucking intriguing is because he's been

1840
01:21:31,720 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 3: a grappler. In his Contender series fight, he got like

1841
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 3: twelve takedowns. In one of his UFC fights, he got

1842
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 3: like ten takedowns, So like to see him have it

1843
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 3: with his hands too, He's like, oh shit, or with

1844
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 3: his feet.

1845
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: I guess he looks like he's in arly. He looks

1846
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 2: like he was raised in the bush if you know

1847
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 2: what I mean.

1848
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:46,839
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, does have a very ozzy haircut.

1849
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope he resides there enough to this victory,

1850
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,759
Speaker 2: because that's that's a good It's a very warm Okay,

1851
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 2: gross Luke, what the hell is Matteo's round Betsky made of?

1852
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,719
Speaker 2: Because he was getting pieced up by lude Voit Klein

1853
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: in a fight that it in a fight that we

1854
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 2: all thought would be a banger. It was almost a

1855
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 2: one sided like showcase of Klein's skills for a while.

1856
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: Klein also dice to the socks. Yes, insane.

1857
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 2: Ron Buski just doesn't stop Michael Myers and you and

1858
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: he damn near almost finished him after breaking his ankle

1859
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 2: and battering him like that scene in Misery with James

1860
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,800
Speaker 2: Kahn and Kathy Bates with that like metal piece. You

1861
01:22:22,840 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: know that was pretty gnarly for like a sixth grader

1862
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: in the theater with your parents. Yeah, my parents thinking

1863
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 2: right there. Good lord, Klein stock goes up and the

1864
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: CTE of round Buski is going to be incredible. But

1865
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: we do have to marvel at this action hero.

1866
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: He has a problem, which is that he has a

1867
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 1: ton of ferocity and he has a real problem with

1868
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 1: defense and closing the distance you have to He has.

1869
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 2: To get hit flushed like three times before he'll throw

1870
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 2: a punch. But then he'll throw like a crazy combo.

1871
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's obviously got some pretty decent wrestling and

1872
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 1: he's a physical beast. I mean, there's no question about it.

1873
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: But Klein is talented. Dude. Clin got outworked obviously by

1874
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 1: gam Rock. You know, Gamrock give him some real problems,

1875
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,600
Speaker 1: but Gamrock gives most people some real problems. You know,

1876
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: and I think, but I think you learned from that one.

1877
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:09,439
Speaker 1: He's taken on defense look better. He was catching Ron

1878
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: Bechki coming in over and over and over again. But

1879
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, he completely like shatters his ankle in

1880
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:17,920
Speaker 1: the third round. He got kind of beat up there

1881
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: at the end. But Ron Beski, I mean, bro, I

1882
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: feel for his I worry about his life after fighting

1883
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: because he's just giving away quality years of his life

1884
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: fighting this way. But he has a dog in him.

1885
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 1: You can't say otherwise.

1886
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: Lord, does he Is he in the same weight class

1887
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: as Nate the train? Can we make that fight happen? Good? Lord?

1888
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: Is Nate landwere a forty five? Or yes?

1889
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, there's our Gotti Ward there in the in

1890
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 2: the Apex Gymnasium. Luke Walter Walker. This was him at

1891
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 2: the way and showing off his foot. Fetish dude. This guy,

1892
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 2: as a heavyweight half brother of Johnny Walker, is fun

1893
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 2: as shit. Got another ankle here, Luke. He's not there yet,

1894
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 2: but these exciting victories which are very reminiscent of Johnny

1895
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 2: Walker on a knockout sense, with like the jumping knees,

1896
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 2: but this is done differently. He's going to be a

1897
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 2: factor if he keeps us up. Can he keep this up?

1898
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's only showing us this or.

1899
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 2: Is this like Mackenzatine area where it's like, oh, it's

1900
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 2: a great party trick.

1901
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, again, it's like usually what okay, So, in

1902
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: the history of MMA, what typically happens is people who

1903
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: are like this, you know, you know, Mazakazu Iminari was

1904
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,759
Speaker 1: one of the other first guys with these weird grappling entries,

1905
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:31,679
Speaker 1: catching you in his case, with with various heel hooks

1906
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: or other forms of legs submissions. And what you find

1907
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: is that eventually those guys they are gimmicky, and then

1908
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 1: when they have to, when their game goes up against

1909
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 1: someone who can stop that, you're like, okay, what else

1910
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:43,599
Speaker 1: do you have? And then they usually have nothing. Can't

1911
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 1: say that about Walter or Walter Walker. We can't. We

1912
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:47,679
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that yet.

1913
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 2: It was big strikes too.

1914
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 1: He does. He's a big dude, and he's you know,

1915
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: he's not taking any fucking damage. But at the same time,

1916
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: we just we just don't know, we don't know. But

1917
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 1: I mean, this thing he's doing is crazy. It's crazy

1918
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: to do this.

1919
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 2: It would actually be great for the division if he

1920
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 2: can make a run here, isn't it? Would it not?

1921
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean they need fresh blood. I can tell you

1922
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 1: that'd be great if he can.

1923
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 2: You shouldn't.

1924
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing, though it's not his fault,

1925
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: but the division should be in a place where you

1926
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: don't get a title shot from doing stuff like this.

1927
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 2: Well, and he's not close to that, but I want

1928
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 2: to see him be a Curtis Blade. I mean, well,

1929
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,640
Speaker 2: he's not that far because it's heavyweight, but like, eventually

1930
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 2: there's some Curtis Blades type people, you know, hang around that.

1931
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 1: Like, I'll be curious to see you if the buck stops.

1932
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 2: There anybody else you want to highlight on this undercard?

1933
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: We have a loaded show, but I want to give

1934
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: him the opportunity.

1935
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: Sorry, let me pull up. Let's go to a long

1936
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: island here while I pull up my notes.

1937
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 3: Sorry, I didn't have Nathaniel would Jose Delgado? I thought

1938
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 3: that was a fun ass fight. It was probably a robbery.

1939
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 3: I don't think.

1940
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 2: I didn't like decision there.

1941
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 1: I thought Delgatto won, But then everyone assured me on

1942
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: social media that if you look closely, would one fair enough.

1943
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: I mean it was close. The Hamdi Abdel will Hob

1944
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 1: Chris Barnett fight was terrible.

1945
01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 2: His buns, Yeah, and we'll see some of these buns.

1946
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: Rich Mitch Roposo had a nice win over Azat Maxim,

1947
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 1: who couldn't get much done. Ikramala scare off by the way,

1948
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:10,679
Speaker 1: underperforming in my judgment against park Park. John yond Biebe

1949
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: needs to separate that.

1950
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 2: He doesn't need that on his lineage, you know, on

1951
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 2: his legs. Who coach abib.

1952
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: Oh, that's right, because now they're working together. Yes, yeah,

1953
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 1: fair enough. But to me, you had some interesting you

1954
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: had to make the you, as you mentioned, Jose Miguel

1955
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: de Delgado, loser in that. In that case, I thought

1956
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 1: he performed really well. He didn't miss wait though he

1957
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: missed away by forty seven.

1958
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: Take some shine off though. All right. Let's fast forward

1959
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 2: here to topic number five. We didn't preview this, and

1960
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 2: I really did.

1961
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: It wasn't on my radar super hard.

1962
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 2: He didn't love the fight on paper, But I gotta

1963
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: be honest, A lot of that is because of the

1964
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 2: hate people have for his own promising they're going to

1965
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 2: get rid of pay per view again and then coming

1966
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 2: back and putting fights like this which shouldn't be a

1967
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 2: pay per view in the States. It was Joseph Parker,

1968
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 2: former heavyweight title holder, who's on the midst of a

1969
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 2: run right now that has given him six consecutive victories,

1970
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: or was on that run over the likes of Deontay

1971
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 2: Wilder's Jean Martin Bacoli. It looked as if he had

1972
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 2: done enough to eventually secure a shot at Alexander Usik's

1973
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 2: undisputed title. The question was like, how long would he

1974
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 2: have to wait? Well, he chose to stay busy instead

1975
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 2: against unbeaten more of a wild man on the rise up,

1976
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 2: but now he's a contender for sure, and in one

1977
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 2: fabio worldly this turned into an all action, back and

1978
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 2: forth fight, Worldly hurting Parker in the second round, but

1979
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 2: then we had the big crazy moment there down the

1980
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 2: stretch in round eleven so round. At the end of

1981
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: round ten, by the way, Parker looked kind of weary,

1982
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 2: he was getting beat up. But in round eleven Wardley

1983
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,559
Speaker 2: put it on him. A referee, Howard Foster, the same

1984
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 2: guy who infamously stopped the first Carl Frotz George Grobs fight,

1985
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 2: which did set up that legendary rematch.

1986
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: In front of a which he never stop talking about it.

1987
01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:51,919
Speaker 2: But you know he's known for stuff like this. Is

1988
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 2: is there any way to justify what he did? Parker

1989
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 2: was taking a lot of unanswered shots, but was moving,

1990
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 2: was defending, and was trying to mount offense back. But

1991
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,640
Speaker 2: the problem is, like the moment that he stopped it,

1992
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 2: was he justified at all in the in the sequences

1993
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 2: leading up to.

1994
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 1: So I didn't watch it live, and then my social

1995
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: media feed was filled with terrible stoppage.

1996
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 2: Ye, oh my god, I let's show Dan Rayfiel's tweet if.

1997
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,280
Speaker 1: You don't mind. Yeah, Parker was up ninety eight, ninety two,

1998
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,600
Speaker 1: ninety six, ninety four, ninety five, ninety five, so it

1999
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,000
Speaker 1: would have been a majority decision at the time of

2000
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: the shitty stoppage by the usually terrible Howard Foster, who

2001
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: has fucked up fights for decades.

2002
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 4: Bro.

2003
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what about Dan Rayfield. He doesn't give

2004
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: a shit.

2005
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 2: Oh he's independent now, so he's just don't like it

2006
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 2: is you know, he.

2007
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: Will absolutely lay it on right up, straight up, not

2008
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 1: tell me. So I saw tweets like that, and I

2009
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 1: was like, And then also our friend Dan Kenobio. Yes

2010
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: he was. He was laming back. So I went back

2011
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:52,480
Speaker 1: and I watched it. Can I be honest about this, Yeah,

2012
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:54,679
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a good stoppage. I'm not saying

2013
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: that's a.

2014
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 2: Shit he stopped in the moment like the moment that

2015
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: he stopped it sucks.

2016
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:02,680
Speaker 1: No, I disagree a little bit. Eh, it's it's I

2017
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 1: don't it's not a good stoppage. I guess I don't

2018
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 1: have the same venom that I saw within the boxing

2019
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,479
Speaker 1: community for it. I'll tell you why. So basically, in

2020
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 1: the last moments of the fight, before the stoppage happens,

2021
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: Wardley is bombing on him and you can see Parker,

2022
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: to your point, moving and then there's one instance where

2023
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Parker really starts firing back, and then they kind of

2024
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: clinch in the center of the ring, and then they

2025
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: separate again and then Wardley goes right back to putting

2026
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 1: it on him, and that is when the referee steps in. Now,

2027
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:37,879
Speaker 1: in my mind, he still stepped in too early. However,

2028
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 1: if you just follow that logic where you're trying to,

2029
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 1: because what you want to see him is see him

2030
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 1: move defensively and then fire back. Es actually what you're

2031
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: looking for.

2032
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 2: He was eating too many clean ones.

2033
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 1: Really, he was eating too many clean ones. And then

2034
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 1: after firing back, he goes right back to getting bombed on.

2035
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I don't think it's a horrible stoppage.

2036
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 2: This guy's hard to defend normally, obviously, but sometimes referees

2037
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 2: in their mind, when they see someone who's trying to

2038
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 2: be a warrior but he is getting getting hit, they say, okay,

2039
01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 2: one more clean, one, one more clean, right, And then

2040
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 2: that one clean one did come, but he didn't stop

2041
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:09,519
Speaker 2: it right then. So that's really the problem. That was

2042
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: that sort of pause and then stopped fair.

2043
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 1: Fair.

2044
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 2: But if you were Parker, you do have to look

2045
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 2: at that critically and say, like, I was in a

2046
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 2: position where I was hurt floundering. Yes there was some defense,

2047
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 2: Yes there was some head movement. There were a lot

2048
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: of unanswer shots.

2049
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 1: So it was it wasn't dude, I was shocking.

2050
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 2: It was just a little bit earlier. I don't think

2051
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 2: there would have been this outrage. And then when you

2052
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 2: add on that Parker was on ahead on the scorecards

2053
01:30:32,760 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 2: and he was taking a gamble taking this fight, you know,

2054
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 2: you could kind of blow up his position.

2055
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: You tell me about five yearwardly, So I was looking

2056
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,560
Speaker 1: at his record. He has the draw, he had a

2057
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: split decision draw or split draw excuse me against Fraser Clark,

2058
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 1: then rematches him and beats him in the first round, and.

2059
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 2: That somehow became a really big fight over there, Like

2060
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 2: a lot of people were behind that fight, and he

2061
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 2: bombed on him and looked great. I called some of

2062
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 2: his early fights on his own and he didn't. He

2063
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,599
Speaker 2: didn't blow me away, and I don't he didn't blow

2064
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,160
Speaker 2: a lot of people away. But he's tough. He's not now,

2065
01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 2: you know, it's just thirty. He knows how to deliver

2066
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 2: his offense now, like he has a pretty good arsenal

2067
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 2: power shots. Not a classic boxer, but a fun action fighter.

2068
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: Dude.

2069
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 2: He brought it from the jump. Yes, he was losing,

2070
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 2: and he should have been losing on the scorecards, but

2071
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 2: he had big moments in this fight. Ed Parker heard

2072
01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 2: at the end of round two, he almost got him

2073
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 2: out of there. At the end of round ten, So

2074
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 2: some of that does support at least the area of

2075
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: time of the stop.

2076
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 8: It.

2077
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 2: You just can't support exact second that it was.

2078
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 1: Once again, these commissions will never let you know what

2079
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 1: the referee is thinking, so we can't hear him say, hey,

2080
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:30,680
Speaker 1: I saw his eyes roll back in his head or

2081
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: something like that exactly, which could have told you something,

2082
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: but we don't know because they never tell us anything.

2083
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's hear from Joseph Parker gave a very

2084
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 2: classy response to how it all broke down.

2085
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 13: You know what, I'm good, congratulations to favorite Wie Florida.

2086
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 13: Let's a fight, Laurier and at the end of the fight,

2087
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 13: as full of the I was fine about. Listen, I'm

2088
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 13: not the great for you know, I'm not the one

2089
01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 13: for trying to fight him. We're not there, we boy,

2090
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,839
Speaker 13: we're not there. Give it a bask and he wants.

2091
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: So there's an that's a professional right it is.

2092
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,600
Speaker 2: And there's an argument to be made that now you

2093
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:06,800
Speaker 2: have a rematch if you can book it, that people

2094
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 2: would care about. And maybe this doesn't kill Parker because

2095
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:12,120
Speaker 2: if Usik wasn't gonna fight him anyway, which he didn't

2096
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 2: want to, yeah, then maybe this gives him time to

2097
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 2: rematch and win. The problem is now Wordley's promoter, Frank Warren,

2098
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 2: maybe rightfully so, is now tweeting out that the next

2099
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 2: fight is going to be Wordly against Usik, and if.

2100
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: You're worthly, you're promote Parker.

2101
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 2: Uh, I believe also Frank Warren.

2102
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he want the rematch? I mean, I guess

2103
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: what I get what you would want to try.

2104
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 2: And to pop your guy into I'm trying to bring

2105
01:32:33,439 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 2: the title to your side. But here's Wordly talking about that,

2106
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 2: and I don't think he's earned it. But yet he

2107
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 2: blew away Fraser Clark after that hiccup. And anytime you

2108
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:43,920
Speaker 2: beat Joseph Parker at this point you gotta give him credit.

2109
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 2: He didn't. He didn't stop the fight, is what I'm saying.

2110
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 2: Wordly wont it? So look at what he's trying to do. Now.

2111
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a wild one when you you piece it

2112
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 10: all together like that. But look, I'm I'm the next

2113
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 10: one up. I'm the next one at it. I've got big,

2114
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 10: broad shoulders. That's fine by me. I'll carry with the pressure.

2115
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 10: There's no problem. I'm something different. I think we've thrown

2116
01:33:02,439 --> 01:33:04,840
Speaker 10: enough of the kind of not to say any of

2117
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:08,000
Speaker 10: those guys are similar or the normal usual, whichever else,

2118
01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 10: but they all come from similar background, similar ways of

2119
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,240
Speaker 10: doing things, and I come from a different school or

2120
01:33:13,280 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 10: a non school, however you want to call it. So look,

2121
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,599
Speaker 10: we've thrown all the kind of the usual guys at him,

2122
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 10: our top dogs and whatever. So yeah, look let me

2123
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 10: have a crack with something different.

2124
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 1: See where we end.

2125
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,439
Speaker 2: I mean, he made a good argument for himself, considering

2126
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 2: that Usak doesn't want to fight Otama right now, and

2127
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 2: it is early.

2128
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:30,799
Speaker 1: For a Tama.

2129
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 2: It's too early for a moment, and like neither you know,

2130
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 2: Joshua was not ready. It's Joshua might not come back

2131
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 2: until next year. He's saying. Now, Fury only wants to

2132
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 2: come back for a super big one, but no one

2133
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 2: wants to see a third for Fury fight right now

2134
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 2: without Fury doing other things first. Yeah, I can't believe

2135
01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying this, But yeah, even though Joseph Parker I

2136
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 2: didn't like the stoppage, he took the risk by doing

2137
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 2: this fight, you know what I mean? Ultimately, so I

2138
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:55,679
Speaker 2: don't know if there's a rematch clause.

2139
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:58,480
Speaker 1: Is there anyone in boxing who doesn't hate the stoppage?

2140
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 2: No, because it did suck.

2141
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it was not a good stoppage, but

2142
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 1: I found the I guess it's usually when I see

2143
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: these kinds of reactions, and then I watched the fight,

2144
01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, right, this one, I was like, okay,

2145
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't great, but like, I think some

2146
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 1: of the outrages a little bit over the top.

2147
01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 2: Think about Joseph Parker is as good as he is,

2148
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 2: and he did have a world title. He lost it

2149
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 2: to Anthony Joshua and their unification I've just never seen

2150
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 2: and he had a nice comeback year recently with those wins.

2151
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 2: I've never seen him really step up and win that

2152
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 2: big one convincingly, like really just you know, knocked the

2153
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 2: guy there. These are very good elite wins, and he's

2154
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,839
Speaker 2: compiled a certain amount of elite wins and elite losses

2155
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 2: and he's still only thirty three, even though he's been

2156
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: around forever. He just I don't know what he could

2157
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 2: have done against Ustick, is really what I'm trying to say.

2158
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's not beating.

2159
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,799
Speaker 2: Us, and while he's way more skilled than worldly, Fabio

2160
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 2: was like saying, look, I got a different style, different attitude,

2161
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 2: different background. Could it still end with a usk knockout?

2162
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 2: It probably could, but it'd be a different kind of

2163
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 2: entertaining fight.

2164
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

2165
01:34:56,880 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 2: I never thought we'd be in the spot. I never

2166
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,040
Speaker 2: thought that result was going to happen. But that atmosphere

2167
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 2: is contagious. It's incredible to watch that. I wish we

2168
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 2: could have that in the States. And I can't believe

2169
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 2: they made this a pay per view, But that's you.

2170
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: Can't believe how dead boxing is. I'm telling you, honestly,

2171
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: this is the dadist that's been in my life.

2172
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 2: They've murdered my boy. I mean, what happened here.

2173
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 13: You know?

2174
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean, fit's finished, man, I mean it's.

2175
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:19,759
Speaker 2: Not finished for good, but there's it's it almost feels

2176
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 2: like it's like purposely being put down for the moment

2177
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 2: so that they can, you know, come back with what

2178
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 2: they've got coming.

2179
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 1: Next, so you know, we'll see.

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01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:33,000
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Speaker 2: though offer you, like we do every Sunday night, that morning,

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01:37:02,280 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 2: combat on IG and X for an opportunity to get

2212
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 2: your questions heard. Any names you're gonna predict that we're

2213
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 2: gonna see like a man in his.

2214
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,280
Speaker 1: Cat or flannels and JITs.

2215
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we love that guy. This one's called dm

2216
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:16,799
Speaker 2: all from Dogs.

2217
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,640
Speaker 1: I just want to point out we got rid of

2218
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 1: the ejaculating donkey, but it keeps returning. The fans demanded

2219
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: we return it returning.

2220
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 2: Here's the first one from Logan. N No doubt, no Dulley,

2221
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 2: no dignity. I'd like to bag it up, Logan. Should

2222
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,800
Speaker 2: a point be taken for excessive stalling the price card?

2223
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 1: This is a tough one. This is a tough one.

2224
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: I wish we had a Pride system where to your

2225
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 1: point you don't necessarily lose the position. But they flash

2226
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 1: a yellow card and I think if you get too

2227
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 1: I forget exactly how Pride did it, But it was

2228
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: two yellows and a red and then you lose points

2229
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:57,600
Speaker 1: and you'd also lose a portion of your purse on

2230
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:00,759
Speaker 1: the yellows. But they don't make enough me to justify

2231
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 1: doing that typically speaking, so I don't think it.

2232
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 2: Would be down with that. Get a little cattle proud

2233
01:38:04,800 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 2: where you can just you know, apollo hook them out

2234
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:07,320
Speaker 2: of the cage.

2235
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:10,600
Speaker 1: I would say this, I am you. We've been on

2236
01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 1: the show me personally, I've been very vocal about the

2237
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 1: need to take points quicker on fouls. Stalling is a

2238
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 1: little harder to do this on. And the reason why

2239
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: BC is because stalling can very easily be the fault

2240
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:27,400
Speaker 1: of two people, and so disentangling who is at fault

2241
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:31,360
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a problem. That's right. You

2242
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:34,280
Speaker 1: need you need a quarter pointed attorney, yep, to you know,

2243
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 1: mitigate the split a little.

2244
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,400
Speaker 2: So, how did the marriage become sexless? That takes two people.

2245
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: It takes two two are not fucking otherwise something bad happens. Anyway,

2246
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,160
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to make is I'm not a post

2247
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,759
Speaker 1: of the idea on this, but unlike ipokes, unlike ball kicks,

2248
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 1: I think they should be much more judicious.

2249
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, judicious ball kicks are the way to go. No, seriously,

2250
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 2: you can start enforcing the rules officials and they did

2251
01:38:56,600 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 2: that on Saturday, and we like that. You can continue it.

2252
01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:02,120
Speaker 2: I don't want to society cameras on every street corner,

2253
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 2: but it's coming, it's it's here, it's here, it's here.

2254
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:06,720
Speaker 1: Volunteer knows what we're doing.

2255
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that guy.

2256
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

2257
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 2: Let's go to the next question. This one's from at

2258
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,879
Speaker 2: Faihie underscore Liam, another boy named Liam not an underscore

2259
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 2: a period overscore in between score fayhe period Liam. Will

2260
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:20,760
Speaker 2: there be an addition of weight classes in the next

2261
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 2: decade or will UFC stick with what they are used to.

2262
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,600
Speaker 2: If there is a change, it's it would probably be

2263
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,880
Speaker 2: the one six', five. Right if there is a, change

2264
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 2: that would be.

2265
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: One the other one would be you could see THE

2266
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 1: ufc go To adam weight on the women's.

2267
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 2: Side not enough. Depth we're seeing that play.

2268
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 1: Out, uh there's. Enough there might be more depth At

2269
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: adam weight than there is at thirty. FIVE i don't

2270
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 1: know how true that. Is they have to strip mind

2271
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 1: what they did like the l so when they created

2272
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,400
Speaker 1: the women's, divisions they basically strip. Mind In victa they'd

2273
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: have to do the same kind of.

2274
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 2: Thing it needs to be a new revolution for, women's

2275
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 2: a new spark that that puts so many people in the,

2276
01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 2: gyms right there needs to be one of.

2277
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: THEM m, yeahweight well that's your. Idea thirty someone someone

2278
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 1: was asking me like why did they do thirty five

2279
01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 1: to fifty? Five like asked The Brian campbell special right.

2280
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 2: THERE i just love women AND i want them to

2281
01:40:10,640 --> 01:40:11,000
Speaker 2: have equal.

2282
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:12,600
Speaker 1: Rights you like the big women.

2283
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:14,519
Speaker 10: All.

2284
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:18,000
Speaker 2: Right the next point of questioning here from. V sanchez

2285
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 2: underscore eighty eight in terms of poor decision making IN

2286
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,080
Speaker 2: M M, a which we see a lot on the highest.

2287
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:24,559
Speaker 1: Level Johnny walker's got to be on.

2288
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 2: There who was on Your Donk? Mount your Mount Donk

2289
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 2: moore is big. Onk i'm Sorry Johnny walker For sheell.

2290
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 1: What do you Think Long? Island who who's like a

2291
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 1: who donks it?

2292
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:40,440
Speaker 3: Up i'm just thinking of more like one off instances

2293
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 3: Like Andre supuma against Uh sean O'Malley when Like sean

2294
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:45,960
Speaker 3: O'Malley's leg was broken.

2295
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: And bonus, points what did what? Did what Did sean

2296
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: O'Malley call sup?

2297
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 3: Them tot soccer mom. SOCKERMY i was actually just gonna

2298
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:54,439
Speaker 3: call him, that BUT i thought i'd, try.

2299
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 1: And it's a little don't do. That those are two good.

2300
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 1: ONES i, mean did you Put Nico montagno in there for?

2301
01:41:01,640 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: Somehow getting a title and then having the worst title ran. Imaginable,

2302
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:09,799
Speaker 1: Also Jamaanda randam me had an amazing, career but knowing

2303
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,960
Speaker 1: you had to Fight, cyborg if you Beat, holly then

2304
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 1: you Beat holly and not a good. Fight and then

2305
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 1: he immediately Decided you're not going to Fight. Cyborg didn't love.

2306
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 2: THAT i feel Like Iron lady was closer to Beating

2307
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: amanda in the rematch than.

2308
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 1: She Gave amanda a tough ass fight in the. Rematch,

2309
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Dude jamada randam is, amazing but that, moment it.

2310
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 2: Was just active more because she was more elite in

2311
01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 2: her later years than she was in her you, know

2312
01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 2: sort of age. Prime she had.

2313
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 1: Put it all.

2314
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 2: Together she just didn't fight. Enough you, know she was.

2315
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 2: Busy she was a police.

2316
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: OFFICER i think she still. Is, yeah in the in The.

2317
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: Netherlands what was the question? Again all? Time donks the rude?

2318
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:50,839
Speaker 2: Conversation it really, Is but people make big dunk mistakes

2319
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 2: in big moments. Constantly, yeah it's part of. IT i,

2320
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 2: Mean Stephen bonner had some dunk moments in big. Fights

2321
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 2: rest in, Peace rest and, peace you know What i'm.

2322
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:01,479
Speaker 1: Saying, yeah he, Did he definitely. Did i'd have to

2323
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,360
Speaker 1: think about. It but these are some decent answers to. Start,

2324
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 1: Certainly Johnny walker is the you, know.

2325
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:08,360
Speaker 2: Yeah definitely chief among. Them let's go to the next

2326
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 2: question from the. People this one's From appy Fat. Thon that's.

2327
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 2: Happy that's the codunk of the. Years David.

2328
01:42:14,160 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 1: Adams they're letting him do this from.

2329
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 2: Jail, yes he, says are acoustic songs by hard rock groups?

2330
01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 2: Overrated i'm thinking About patients By guns N' roses just.

2331
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 2: Breathe That's creed right or, no that's that's what Jam i'm,

2332
01:42:29,479 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 2: sorry what AM i thinking? Of that's The pearl? Jam

2333
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 2: oh that's off of The, yeah what's that album?

2334
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 3: CALLED i want to say it's On No, Code.

2335
01:42:37,680 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 2: No, no it's On backspacer all, right that? Great No.

2336
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 3: Backspacers oh, nine that's way too.

2337
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 2: Late it's on the one With Unthought. Known all, right

2338
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 2: there you.

2339
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 3: GO i think that's.

2340
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 2: Back i'd make an exception for more than words from.

2341
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 2: Extreme so, look, basically what he's, saying is the pot

2342
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:55,400
Speaker 2: the acoustic the acoustic power ballad from a badass. BAND

2343
01:42:56,439 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: i had metal fit friends growing up who were, like

2344
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 2: we love AC dc because they don't ever do. That

2345
01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 2: there's no room in life for. That, obviously you've got

2346
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,519
Speaker 2: a little tenderness in your. Heart you can get down

2347
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 2: for a metal band doing a nice acoustic love.

2348
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:14,200
Speaker 1: Song, WELL i, mean how do we feel about for, EXAMPLE.

2349
01:43:13,960 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 2: I, Mean patiences is probably number one on the Listening, okay.

2350
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 1: Okay but let's let's let's try something a little bit

2351
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,439
Speaker 1: with a wider scope. HERE i saw Both Alison chains And.

2352
01:43:20,520 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 1: Nirvana DO mtv? Unplugged? Yes would that? COUNT i mean

2353
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:25,160
Speaker 1: those are kind of.

2354
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 2: Covering, acousticizing acousticizing your own badass. Material but we're talking

2355
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:30,719
Speaker 2: about writing.

2356
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 3: One what do you THINK i brought up TO bc

2357
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 3: pre Show nutshell By Alison. CHAINS i feel like as

2358
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 3: an example of, that like a.

2359
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 2: Slower Slower but it's not like that's that's a love

2360
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 2: song or, anything you know WHAT i.

2361
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 3: Mean but it's, like you, know it's not really.

2362
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 1: There LIKE i, Mean i've Seen i've SEEN g AND

2363
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:46,960
Speaker 1: r enough times and heard them play that it doesn't

2364
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:48,439
Speaker 1: feel like it's played out for the audience WHEN i

2365
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,240
Speaker 1: when And i'm not even a BIG gnr. GUY i

2366
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 1: just go with because my wife loves.

2367
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:56,480
Speaker 2: Them Missus, thomas she Loves did she Like Chinese democracy

2368
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:57,080
Speaker 2: when it finally came.

2369
01:43:57,120 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 1: OUT i haven't asked her about that, one but she's

2370
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 1: big on you, know you use your illusion one and.

2371
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:04,599
Speaker 2: Two my dad waited out in line after midnight at

2372
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 2: the Local strawberries on A sunday night to get that

2373
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:08,639
Speaker 2: those two. ALBUMS i can.

2374
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 1: Tell you that my dad did.

2375
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:09,560
Speaker 3: NOT.

2376
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:11,120
Speaker 1: Ok, YEAH i can tell you that my.

2377
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,360
Speaker 2: Dad my dad has done that for a few pivotal.

2378
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 2: Moments he also had the First RAGE cd before anyone on.

2379
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 2: School i'll give him that.

2380
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 1: Credit how old is your? Dad he's twenty two.

2381
01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 2: Years older than, me so we just turned the age

2382
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 2: seventy In.

2383
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 1: September, jesus he had you when he was twenty.

2384
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 2: Two, yeah my sister when he was twenty married at. Eighteen?

2385
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 1: Wow what? Yep speaking Of want to hear.

2386
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:38,080
Speaker 3: Something me And DC's parents are the same. Age that's

2387
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 3: kind of, wild are?

2388
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 4: You?

2389
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,680
Speaker 1: Are you two? Brothers might were your parents swingers with each?

2390
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 2: Other you, KNOW i always felt a little Half australian

2391
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:48,439
Speaker 2: to be fair with, you do we have more questions

2392
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 2: from our people here from our peep. Holes this is From.

2393
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 2: Pat you, Know pat McCann thirty. Four i've never heard

2394
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 2: of this, guy you? Know?

2395
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:55,559
Speaker 1: Sure all?

2396
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 2: RIGHT a Favorite halloween memory?

2397
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 1: Memory, MAN i tell you what when your kids were

2398
01:45:06,760 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 1: trick or? Treating let me ask you a. Question when

2399
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 1: your kids were tricker? Treating did your parents? Sorry did you?

2400
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,360
Speaker 1: Rather did you make them make their? Own?

2401
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 2: No, no you let them just buy help them With.

2402
01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 1: Like CAN i tell you the bit of trauma THAT i? Have,

2403
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:27,360
Speaker 1: yes my mom. Was my mom was like. Not she

2404
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: didn't have the idea that you couldn't buy.

2405
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,320
Speaker 2: Anything she wasn't big into Like Roy rogers coupons or

2406
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:31,640
Speaker 2: anything like.

2407
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 1: That but she basically made me make my own costumes every.

2408
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 1: Year so every YEAR i had a fucked up.

2409
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 2: Costume THAT'S i was, like what the?

2410
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:41,400
Speaker 9: Fuck?

2411
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 1: MAN i never had a good costume BECAUSE i didn't

2412
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 1: know what what do you? Think i'm tim. GUNN i

2413
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 1: can just fucking fabricate some. Ship so with my, daughter

2414
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 1: we made her fabricate some, stuff but in GENERAL i

2415
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,479
Speaker 1: just bought her. Stuff So i'll tell you my Favorite

2416
01:45:53,479 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 1: halloween memories are fucking with, her like going out with.

2417
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:57,920
Speaker 2: Her, well they should, be by the, way when when

2418
01:45:57,960 --> 01:45:58,360
Speaker 2: you get to that.

2419
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:00,760
Speaker 1: Point Because i've always had SHITTY i had.

2420
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,280
Speaker 2: More shitty halloweens than. Not like there was this third

2421
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,760
Speaker 2: grade party where everyone was gonna wear a costume At

2422
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:07,600
Speaker 2: Amanda curran's house for a birthday and they played the

2423
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,519
Speaker 2: thriller record by The way over and over and. Over

2424
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 2: that's where we were in life at that, point AND

2425
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,200
Speaker 2: i was the only one that bought a costume at Like,

2426
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 2: AMES i Bought gobot's costume and everybody else had like

2427
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 2: handmade ones that their parents made for, Them AND i

2428
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 2: felt like the poor WHITE.

2429
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 1: I HAD i was. HIDING i always had costumes where

2430
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: people had to ask me what the FUCK i?

2431
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 2: Want that's not fun because you.

2432
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,200
Speaker 1: JUST i just looked like shit the whole. Time SO i,

2433
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:32,840
Speaker 1: Mean i'm not SAYING i had bad. HALLOWEENS i still

2434
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 1: got a bunch of candy and in the, end like

2435
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 1: that's all that really, MATTERS i, Suppose but like, goy,

2436
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 1: DUDE i have much more fun with my daughter figuring

2437
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 1: out what she's gonna wear and helping her do. It all,

2438
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 1: Right the.

2439
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,479
Speaker 2: Worst things to get besides your dad's coupons or the

2440
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 2: times they give you like a nickel and you're, like come.

2441
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 1: ON i HAD i had a dentist neighbor one. Time

2442
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 1: he used to give a. Toothbrush that's.

2443
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:53,040
Speaker 2: Bad popcorn balls really. Bad somehow my wife's vows just.

2444
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Shows let, me let me tell you WHAT i don't.

2445
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 1: WANT i don't want your homemade fucking.

2446
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 2: TRY i don't want your. COINS i don't want your

2447
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 2: what are those butter scott Mary, JANE'S i mean.

2448
01:47:02,240 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 1: Different kind of the necho. Wafers, those let's take.

2449
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 2: Those but Mary jane's come on so hard you break

2450
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 2: your teeth right into.

2451
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 1: THOSE i THINK i just do those in the.

2452
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 2: Garbage if someone's giving you those old of those old

2453
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 2: uh those those but those, butterscotch those, words ladies given.

2454
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,840
Speaker 2: Words come, on you, know give me the candy. Bar.

2455
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 1: Listen IF i have a bag of, candy AND i

2456
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:26,000
Speaker 1: got If i've got like, one If i've got, one

2457
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: If i've got, one word's, ORIGINALS i think that's. Okay it's,

2458
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 1: like but when multiple houses are just don't get it.

2459
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:32,400
Speaker 1: Up that's no.

2460
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:35,719
Speaker 2: Fun my parents always checked it for you, know razor,

2461
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:37,519
Speaker 2: blades so they had to open every piece.

2462
01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:40,879
Speaker 1: Of those kinds of. People they were big into the satanic.

2463
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 2: PANIC i, mean the razor blade would have been. FINE

2464
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:43,800
Speaker 2: i would have just spit it.

2465
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 1: Out, well you, know you actually do have to worry

2466
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 1: About it is not the razor, blades it's the weed

2467
01:47:48,080 --> 01:47:50,439
Speaker 1: gummies that's getting into. Circular.

2468
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow all, RIGHT i think that wraps up our, questions,

2469
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 2: right tell, me tell me all, right we have one

2470
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:58,599
Speaker 2: more segment from thank you to the. People oh, yeah

2471
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 2: the Fans Morning Combat gmail dot. Com but you already

2472
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 2: knew that if you want to reach Us friday, show

2473
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 2: we're coming back with fan subs and dead, wrongs very

2474
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 2: pedantic of. Us so reach out and touch someone, protecting

2475
01:48:08,720 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 2: Preferably mikey with pictures of you. Touching, okay that went too.

2476
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 2: Far our final fan segment is for, you the, fans by.

2477
01:48:15,920 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 2: Me it's a. GIFT i scoured the globe for The

2478
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 2: internet for the highs and, lows the, good the, bad

2479
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 2: the Other you.

2480
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:26,759
Speaker 1: Have talked very, High Hi lee about this week this week's, Batch,

2481
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 1: well some people.

2482
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 2: Were upset about the amount of fecal content.

2483
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 1: Lately last week was, like, yo here's this woman getting

2484
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 1: farted on by one hundred people in a, Mariachi but.

2485
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,320
Speaker 2: You're trying to make the segment great. Again have you

2486
01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:48,599
Speaker 2: seen this? Shit who, Ah, yeah somebody's taking a. Shot.

2487
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 2: HEY ufc three twenty one Was Unabu dabi And Chris

2488
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 2: barnett was there to show his. ASS i never thought

2489
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 2: a fighter needed a belt more, dude long. Layoff we

2490
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 2: all wanted to see this. Guy he got beat. Up

2491
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 2: the fights.

2492
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 1: SUCK i feel like this is a great representation of

2493
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:04,280
Speaker 1: the state of Heavyweight, dude.

2494
01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:07,599
Speaker 2: What how what happened? Here you should be better than,

2495
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,759
Speaker 2: this shouldn't? You can you tight can you tighten? Them

2496
01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 2: what happened?

2497
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 1: HERE i don't.

2498
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:13,640
Speaker 2: Know did the waste bag? This i'd rather see Like

2499
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 2: tyson's ass in The netflix locker room.

2500
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 1: OVER i, mean here's the thing like it came. Down for,

2501
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 1: example when Sar yukin was Fighting, OLAVERA i remember. That,

2502
01:49:20,680 --> 01:49:22,600
Speaker 1: actually actually he kind of ended up getting out of

2503
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 1: the joke by virtue of, That so it does. HAPPEN

2504
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 1: i just don't. Listen do you know how great my

2505
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 1: day is WHEN i don't have to see another man's? Ass?

2506
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 1: Yeah that's there's there's.

2507
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 2: No unless they're taded up than you're all about.

2508
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 1: It, well that's a little. Different but there's no day

2509
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:38,040
Speaker 1: Where i'm, like, OH i get to look at the

2510
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 1: buttocks of another man and all of a sudden it's.

2511
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,240
Speaker 1: Better it's never, Better it's always.

2512
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:43,720
Speaker 2: Worse, hey watched THE ufc way in. Closely usmann Der

2513
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,479
Speaker 2: Maga METOV pfl. Champion look at the warm greeting from

2514
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,679
Speaker 2: THE ufc. Staff That's usman right. There There's dana watch

2515
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 2: Bro hunter coming. Up, yeah get a little. Bit is

2516
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:55,680
Speaker 2: it just?

2517
01:49:55,720 --> 01:49:57,600
Speaker 1: Me or Is Hunter campbell with that mustache starting to

2518
01:49:57,600 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 1: look Like? Warrio?

2519
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah he started to look like like like a villain

2520
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:04,080
Speaker 2: from a. Cartoon it's it feels, inevitable doesn't.

2521
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 11: It?

2522
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, YEAH i mean everyone, knows, guys, guys none of

2523
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,919
Speaker 1: this is. UNPREDICTABLE pfl will not make, it and eventually

2524
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 1: he'll be over.

2525
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:14,760
Speaker 2: There will both brothers BE ufc champions before it's said and.

2526
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 1: Done well, one, yes you're going.

2527
01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 2: To spondel, lightweight aren't?

2528
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 1: You? MOTHER i did say? Anything, okay all, Right.

2529
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 2: Luca we also saw Some nermaga metalf hijinks When habib

2530
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 2: got after former teammate D c and like people always

2531
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:28,600
Speaker 2: be messing with D.

2532
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 1: C The russians love fucking WITH. Dc it's and not

2533
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 1: just The. RUSSIANS i guess The brazilians do, Too, yes

2534
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:36,880
Speaker 1: but it's great to see they love fucking with. Him.

2535
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,680
Speaker 2: Luke we never can defend the m M a media, Typically,

2536
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:43,719
Speaker 2: right here's another. Reason Why how many times a week

2537
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 2: do you? Squat and what's your squat and? Weight what

2538
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 2: do you? SQUAT i.

2539
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 9: Do like a lot of repetitions of, squats but not too.

2540
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,680
Speaker 9: Heavy WHEN i get in fight, CAMP i go like,

2541
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 9: heavier but usually it's like more every single. DAY i

2542
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:04,759
Speaker 9: Squats monday For saturday in like sixty, pounds seventy. POUNDS

2543
01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:08,680
Speaker 9: i do like sumo, SQUATS a lot of like repetitions

2544
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 9: twenty four of twenty.

2545
01:51:11,800 --> 01:51:14,439
Speaker 2: That went on pretty. Long but, wow what a QUESTION

2546
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 2: i did ask Tyche vasa that. Time you, know are

2547
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:20,759
Speaker 2: you gonna Take Greg hardy? Up not your offer to? Bang,

2548
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 2: right that's one of the greatest moments in.

2549
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 1: Media didn't you didn't didn't you ask al Jamn sterling

2550
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:27,719
Speaker 1: about getting dicked?

2551
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 2: Down didn't you do that as? Well you got hung

2552
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:33,600
Speaker 2: up on by The.

2553
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,160
Speaker 1: CHARLOWS i got hung up on By Mike.

2554
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 2: PERRY i got hung up By Tyson. FURY i.

2555
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:40,920
Speaker 1: GOT i just get people who say no at the

2556
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 1: front end and just don't ever talk to.

2557
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 8: Me.

2558
01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:46,839
Speaker 2: Wow you so so remember that weird moment Between aspinall

2559
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:48,400
Speaker 2: And nina when he asked her that weird.

2560
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 1: Question about getting yeah.

2561
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,479
Speaker 2: Digitized let's say about going third base with a. Fighter

2562
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:57,680
Speaker 2: Here's Johnny. Walker at Least nina knows who Finger Tom. Aspinall,

2563
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 2: yes it With Ceril Gone. Luke that Whole Nina aspinall

2564
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 2: weirdness kind of reminded me of this.

2565
01:52:05,160 --> 01:52:08,840
Speaker 1: Video i'm excuse, me could you be in this video

2566
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 1: real quick to make my ex boyfriend?

2567
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 6: Jealous?

2568
01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 4: Sure, okay, okay thank. YOU i think you could finger

2569
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:18,600
Speaker 4: me too for the.

2570
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:22,719
Speaker 9: Video, yeah.

2571
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 2: Pop so that, dude that dude is a.

2572
01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: Comedian that dude is a. COMEDIAN i don't know his.

2573
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,679
Speaker 1: NAME i think it's LIKE i forget it all.

2574
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 2: Right speaking Of, aspinall he talked a lot about his

2575
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,920
Speaker 2: hog this. Week Here's aspinall With Eddie hall in the.

2576
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 1: Gym thank of some more names for. Yourself i'm very

2577
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:44,600
Speaker 1: sensitive to. NICKNAMES i don't really like him. PERSONALLY a

2578
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:46,040
Speaker 1: few couple of people who tried to call me the

2579
01:52:46,040 --> 01:52:47,120
Speaker 1: honey Bad, jeff what about?

2580
01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 2: Tripod does that mean you've got a big? Penis, yes

2581
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 2: that's not, me that's somebody.

2582
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 1: Else, no it's, not it's. Untrue it on next.

2583
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 2: Month see he wouldn't like he's not being. Honest you

2584
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 2: know he's. Correct he didn't defend his dog when asked

2585
01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:05,880
Speaker 2: that media day.

2586
01:53:05,920 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 6: Either, obviously you famously once said that you refuse to

2587
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:11,200
Speaker 6: get into a dick measuring contest With Sergey.

2588
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:13,320
Speaker 2: Pavlovitch is that something you think you'd be interested in

2589
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 2: With cyril Or?

2590
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 1: NO i Think i'm fighting a losing battle with that, one. Unfortunately,

2591
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 1: OKAY i kind of like this, guy.

2592
01:53:22,360 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 2: THOUGH i think you would say the same after watching

2593
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 2: The jones Housbule of. Video we're not there, yet but be, Careful,

2594
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,639
Speaker 2: luca who you let when you're at these theme parks

2595
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 2: and your kid wants to hug the mask? Up you

2596
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 2: know What i'm. Saying you don't know who's behind there

2597
01:53:34,560 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 2: doing weird. Things look at this guy working his ass

2598
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 2: on this. SCRATCH i, mean is that part of the?

2599
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:40,920
Speaker 2: Gimmick or, what.

2600
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 1: Dude some where is a drive by shooter when you need?

2601
01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:53,679
Speaker 2: One, well you gotta be careful on the, Roadways, luke

2602
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:55,920
Speaker 2: because anything can break. Out let's let's see the cam

2603
01:53:55,960 --> 01:54:11,600
Speaker 2: on this. Motorcycle Third, world your ass.

2604
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:19,920
Speaker 1: With the torta running after? Him that suspiciously looked Like

2605
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 1: columbia because they have a lot of yellow bridges.

2606
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 2: THERE i don't think it WAS, ai ALTHOUGH i get senteled,

2607
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:28,840
Speaker 2: often you. Know, Okay, uh scooters are also, dangerous well?

2608
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:31,280
Speaker 2: Done oh, no not that one?

2609
01:54:31,840 --> 01:54:35,960
Speaker 1: One? Wait wait wait, no, yeah number number.

2610
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:37,040
Speaker 3: Looks like six is.

2611
01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:40,240
Speaker 2: Missing oh it's. Missing, sorry scooters are, dangerous. Though, hey

2612
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 2: let's keep it.

2613
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 1: Going your school like. SCOOTERS i get the lime scooters IN.

2614
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:43,960
Speaker 1: Dc we're kind of.

2615
01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 2: Fun you have an e bike as. Well your soundbody

2616
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 2: of the week comes From Kendrick.

2617
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 1: Perkins don't you besmirch my e?

2618
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 2: Bike live ON espn and here it, Is, luke well, done.

2619
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 1: Which you NEED i be proful for when.

2620
01:54:55,960 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 4: You have a.

2621
01:54:56,560 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 1: Park why is he ON? Tv?

2622
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:09,400
Speaker 2: Dude that Was that was a bold?

2623
01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 1: Move why is he ON?

2624
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 2: Tv all, Right, lucas time to rate that tat one to?

2625
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:16,640
Speaker 2: Ten ten is a great. Tattoo zero? Sucks, okay let's.

2626
01:55:16,440 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 1: Start to ten, then told ME i can rate it

2627
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 1: zero if it.

2628
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 2: Sucks this is A brazilian soccer fan getting his home team's.

2629
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 1: UNIFORM i saw that for. Life this is a negative

2630
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:31,040
Speaker 1: eight billion out of. Ten, okay it's the worst fucking.

2631
01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 2: Idea, okay the idea is a minus eighty. Six but

2632
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:36,000
Speaker 2: what about the? Execution you give it like a.

2633
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 1: FOUR i, mean it's decently, SATURATED i, suppose but it

2634
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:43,440
Speaker 1: doesn't look like A t. Shirt you just look like

2635
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:48,200
Speaker 1: you the worst fucking tattoo. Imaginable, okay, well.

2636
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:50,320
Speaker 2: Let's grade this next. One if you're a Big Dustin poier,

2637
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 2: fan then you'd probably get this. One luke of his

2638
01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 2: hot sauce bottle.

2639
01:55:57,480 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 1: Six and a, half six and a. Half you don't

2640
01:55:59,480 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 1: hate it, THOUGH i don't hate. It it's actually well

2641
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:05,640
Speaker 1: given the given the artistic style that it, is it's decently.

2642
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 2: Exe all, right L. A doyers are in The World, Series.

2643
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 2: Luke check out this guy's Head dodgers on the. Dome,

2644
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 2: brother look at The raiders on the.

2645
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:16,840
Speaker 1: Top, yeah how many times has he been thrown out

2646
01:56:16,840 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 1: of this stadium for fist?

2647
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 2: Tighter look that the, execution the quality of the, marksmanship.

2648
01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 1: It's the line work is kind of ship and, uh

2649
01:56:25,040 --> 01:56:29,560
Speaker 1: it's terrible. Placement four cow.

2650
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,760
Speaker 2: Take That, Dodgers. Luke let's get Into John jones and Has.

2651
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 2: Beulah first we'll watch how.

2652
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 1: He wanted to watch show he tany because everyone in

2653
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 1: school was talking about. Him, yes and then he struck

2654
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:40,440
Speaker 1: out like three times in the. GAME i showed him

2655
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 1: what a.

2656
01:56:41,080 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 2: Fraud first you had a little living room action With John.

2657
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:47,000
Speaker 2: John so this is the, Video this is the setup.

2658
01:56:47,080 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 1: Video is he kicking him in the? Head show?

2659
01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 2: Goes they just they just fought the whole. Time and

2660
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:54,400
Speaker 2: then he might he does like The Mike tyson bit

2661
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 2: where he picks them up like a, child.

2662
01:56:59,560 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: The garbage.

2663
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:02,240
Speaker 2: Something so people were, like, okay was that Kid?

2664
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 1: Rocks like is That joey C, yeah L i p

2665
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: in the shoe.

2666
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 2: Box now look that's weird, Enough, okay it got real.

2667
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:12,400
Speaker 1: Weird, okay this is the one that apparently everyone's talking,

2668
01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:13,880
Speaker 1: about just talking about.

2669
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 2: Shaft John jones is. Shaft here we.

2670
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 1: Go, LOOK i don't see.

2671
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 2: Anything, okay, boner police have. Arrived look your.

2672
01:57:32,600 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 1: Verdict he might be guilty at? Charge well look what is?

2673
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 1: That gotta lock him? UP i don't know what, Yo look,

2674
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:42,720
Speaker 1: Yo look he's.

2675
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:44,000
Speaker 2: Naughty look look.

2676
01:57:45,360 --> 01:57:47,280
Speaker 1: He's LIKE i KNOW i get.

2677
01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:53,400
Speaker 2: It he had a has. Boner yeah he. Did, okay all,

2678
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 2: right here's your catch of the. Weekend base that's.

2679
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 1: Something oh sweet chim.

2680
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 2: Music, wow maybe get your hands up. Guy, okay this

2681
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 2: week in, Football Luke, first The Bud Crawford World tour is.

2682
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:08,320
Speaker 2: Fun here's him at A packers.

2683
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:14,360
Speaker 1: TAILGATE i like the number four, twenty SO i don't

2684
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 1: sported to. It i'm, Saying, okay that's kind of. Cool. Question,

2685
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 1: also that's fucking great showing up to A packer's tailgate

2686
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:35,240
Speaker 1: and playing with with A i guess That's mariachi.

2687
01:58:35,360 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 2: Ish Cam newton was at a college football game FOR.

2688
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 2: Espn erased the mascots and then it almost got. Physical

2689
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 2: tell me if you, Did Cam, Newton.

2690
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:49,879
Speaker 1: Cam, newton why Does Cam newton dress like A George

2691
01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 1: washington clone from the seventeen.

2692
01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 2: Months he's, like don't funk with.

2693
01:58:53,480 --> 01:59:01,040
Speaker 1: Me that was, interesting, okay And Cam newton's interesting but.

2694
01:59:01,080 --> 01:59:03,480
Speaker 2: Weird you don't usually say good hands on a, referee

2695
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:05,160
Speaker 2: but watch this this interception?

2696
01:59:05,240 --> 01:59:13,440
Speaker 1: Here, oh nice? Catch oh he picked him. Off what

2697
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:14,120
Speaker 1: is he supposed to?

2698
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 2: Do get out of the, way, right that's what he's

2699
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 2: supposed to.

2700
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:17,600
Speaker 1: Do, Yeah i'm not. Sure how what happens when the

2701
01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 1: referee catches the fucking? Ball i've never seen.

2702
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:21,480
Speaker 2: That look you also know what happens when we go

2703
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:22,839
Speaker 2: to regional m M a, right.

2704
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 1: Anything can.

2705
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:33,160
Speaker 2: Happen watch this cameraman. Closely, oh have a, spill get

2706
01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 2: seat belted. In next, time let's go to these women.

2707
01:59:35,920 --> 01:59:37,000
Speaker 2: Fighting watch this front.

2708
01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:44,000
Speaker 1: Kick that's a roundhouse but still, yeah, anyway delivered straight.

2709
01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:47,240
Speaker 2: Up now tell, Me, wow let's head to some fat.

2710
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:49,760
Speaker 2: Boxers you sent me this, One, luca an incredible piece

2711
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:50,160
Speaker 2: of business.

2712
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:59,240
Speaker 1: Here this is. Great he's tea bagging, Man he's tea.

2713
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:07,120
Speaker 2: Bags please, please, look let's go to the. Ice i've

2714
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:08,920
Speaker 2: never saw this before in a kid's. Game MAYBE i

2715
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 2: don't watch enough youth, hockey but this turned into a real.

2716
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:14,840
Speaker 1: One is that my imagination or AM i reading the

2717
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:18,360
Speaker 1: cyrillic alphabet in the, background in which case this Is

2718
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 1: russia or somewhere they get after. It look at, this,

2719
02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:26,040
Speaker 1: Dude these kids are like, seven and they're fucking brawling

2720
02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 1: like It's lord of The, fly just like their.

2721
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:30,160
Speaker 2: Heroes, okay look look at the.

2722
02:00:30,160 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 1: Referee look at the.

2723
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 2: Referee, yeah they're just Like, yeah it happens all the.

2724
02:00:33,440 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 2: Time let them.

2725
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 1: Figure we just facilitate youth violence.

2726
02:00:38,360 --> 02:00:41,760
Speaker 2: In contract says we must watch from a. Distance, okay,

2727
02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 2: look new segment. Alert, okay you rate that tat one to.

2728
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:46,760
Speaker 2: Ten now a new one called rate that shitter one

2729
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:49,040
Speaker 2: to ten on ten BEING i want to ship.

2730
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:50,920
Speaker 1: There this might be the greatest segment we come up with.

2731
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:53,000
Speaker 2: Her here we, Go here we, go number, one poop

2732
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 2: with a. View where are you?

2733
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:55,760
Speaker 1: Going? Solid? Eight?

2734
02:00:55,920 --> 02:00:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah that is a solid, ey that's a great.

2735
02:00:57,880 --> 02:00:58,120
Speaker 1: View.

2736
02:00:58,240 --> 02:01:00,920
Speaker 2: Wow all, right let's go out to the high seas, Here,

2737
02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:06,040
Speaker 2: luke the boat. Toilet, hmm you don't have to deal with.

2738
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 2: It it's. Gone the piranhas get.

2739
02:01:07,560 --> 02:01:07,640
Speaker 4: It?

2740
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:09,960
Speaker 1: Five, okay all? Right all?

2741
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:12,600
Speaker 2: Right uh you ever hear of a mouth? Toilet, luke

2742
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:13,320
Speaker 2: hold on.

2743
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:14,720
Speaker 3: Quick you see we're missing another one.

2744
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 2: Here you're missing the mouth. TOILET i mean, there are

2745
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 2: you kidding?

2746
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:18,520
Speaker 3: Me we're missing C i Think mikey hit you up

2747
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:19,760
Speaker 3: about AND i responded with the.

2748
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 1: VIDEO i don't. Know we just take a dump in your.

2749
02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:24,040
Speaker 2: Mountain say, hey here's our final, One. LUKE i don't

2750
02:01:24,040 --> 02:01:25,920
Speaker 2: know what model car this, is BUT i think The

2751
02:01:25,960 --> 02:01:27,160
Speaker 2: thomases have an upgrade.

2752
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:29,840
Speaker 1: Coming, well it's a ten out of ten right? HERE i,

2753
02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:32,200
Speaker 1: mean this is where does it? Go? Though? Oh but

2754
02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:32,520
Speaker 1: this IS?

2755
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:35,920
Speaker 2: Ai, YEAH i GOT, ai BUT i had to show.

2756
02:01:35,960 --> 02:01:38,560
Speaker 1: You, yeah that's a ten out of. Ten that's the. Future, Right,

2757
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 1: HEY i understands, me it really.

2758
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:43,280
Speaker 2: Does all, right let's see if you Understand. Selene she's,

2759
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:48,320
Speaker 2: Back luke your. Thoughts imagine living with. Her you never

2760
02:01:48,400 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 2: know what you're.

2761
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:53,680
Speaker 1: Touching i'm going to find this.

2762
02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:58,320
Speaker 2: Person are we GETTING ai in these videos or is this?

2763
02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:00,720
Speaker 1: REAL i don't understand why she has to eat the

2764
02:02:00,720 --> 02:02:03,160
Speaker 1: weirdest things in the. House, YEAH i hope she gets

2765
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 1: a little weird the coffee. Mo, yeah and then you're

2766
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:07,080
Speaker 1: gonna eat, it. Dude she eats furniture.

2767
02:02:07,560 --> 02:02:09,840
Speaker 14: Only, fans we'd subscribe as a. Show eat THE, tv

2768
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:15,280
Speaker 14: eat the tea content. Content she's just so fucking. Weird you're.

2769
02:02:15,320 --> 02:02:17,920
Speaker 14: Awful you're an awful Per, Okay, luke this is.

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Speaker 2: You ever wonder what the difference is between me And connor.

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Speaker 1: McGregor six hundred million dollars this.

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Speaker 2: Video some of you guys do, COCAINE i do.

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Speaker 1: Gies. Wow great guy died later after he's got a

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Speaker 1: life expectancy Of.

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Speaker 2: Thursday all, right let's shut it down with a round

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Speaker 2: of would you Eat? Luke it's a simple yes or a.

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Speaker 2: No First New costco hack breaking. Through you rip the

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Speaker 2: cheese off the, pizza.

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Speaker 1: Which by the, way their pizzas are very. Cheesy i've noticed.

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Speaker 2: Cheesy you wrap the the glizzy.

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Speaker 1: And the, cheese put it back in the. Bun, yes

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Speaker 1: you're going for? That would?

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Speaker 11: You?

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Speaker 1: YES i?

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Speaker 2: Would damn? RIGHT i well that's, genius, right that's actually.

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Speaker 2: Wow all, right let's go to the next. One New

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Speaker 2: Morning breakfast idea for.

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Speaker 1: Tukes baha blast ship your fucking PANTS i, MEAN i,

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Speaker 1: eating this all.

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Speaker 2: Right here's the last. ONE i think they call it

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Speaker 2: a stick and.

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Speaker 1: Chips DO i eat it with a knife or just

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Speaker 1: go for? It what is? That what AM i looking?

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Speaker 1: At a? Dog? Yeah well is the dog? Tasty?

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Speaker 2: Uh survey, says, yes that's your ship of the. Week

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Speaker 2: what do YOU i gotta.

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Speaker 1: Get a grade. Here that's all? Right and they robbed,

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Speaker 1: you apparently. Robbed this was much better.

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Speaker 2: Than the mouth toilet would have been. Tremendous thank you very.

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Speaker 2: Much that's our. Show we got to get out of.

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Speaker 2: HERE i hope you enjoyed our. Recap we'll be Back,

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Speaker 2: friday eleven Am.

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Speaker 1: Eastern what are we going to talk about On? Friday

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Speaker 1: due of.

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Speaker 2: Brother and then Maybe i'll create some fun segments we

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Speaker 2: haven't played in a. While what's that new one called

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Speaker 2: Long Al? Luke how about a rang On?

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Speaker 1: Friday?

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay all, right that's what you. Get follow us

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Speaker 2: at the handles. Below thank you very. Much enjoy our YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Channels i'm sure they're spin off content there, wait just

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Speaker 2: waiting for. You thank you To Long Island luke for

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Speaker 2: producing check out the main card minute anything you want

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Speaker 2: to tell them about your, Life.

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Speaker 3: No just check it.

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Speaker 1: Out thank, you all.

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Speaker 2: Right For nadir And ken in the, Back, yeah thank

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Speaker 2: you so. Much and FOR Lt Morning coombat dot.

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Speaker 1: Shop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah get Your christmas presents, now, okay final chance to

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Speaker 2: get The october exclusives before you find out what's coming next.

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Speaker 2: Month do we even know what's coming next? Month i'm

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Speaker 2: not even, sure but we're gonna be the first that find. Out,

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Speaker 2: okay that's. IT i don't have anything, else, really

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