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Speaker 1: program today, A lot of your calls A four four
Speaker 1: eight four, three, six, seven nine. A lot of news
Speaker 1: broke yesterday into this morning, and we wanted to really
Speaker 1: just get into that Frank has updated his rankings. We
Speaker 1: were gonna get into that a little bit um mostly
Speaker 1: so just some of the headlines that we have noticed
Speaker 1: and we have seen over the past twenty four hours
Speaker 1: or so since we've been on there. And I want
Speaker 1: to start when we were talking about with Rohnods on
Speaker 1: Scout Fantasy last night, and that is Doug Baldwin. Baldwin,
Speaker 1: you have moved up in your rankings ahead of t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton. You're very confident, and in his first time
Speaker 1: speaking to the media in really in a month or
Speaker 1: so since he got hurt, he was like, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be a hundred percent this year, not like
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be hundred percent by opening day, not
Speaker 1: that I won't be a hundred percent for the first month.
Speaker 1: I will not be a hundred percent this year. And
Speaker 1: this was some of the problem, of course, by drafting
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin, was that you had this not recurring knee problem,
Speaker 1: but a knee problem that could limit him. And I
Speaker 1: feel like, now you see Doug Baldin say He's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a hundred percent, meaning he could come in
Speaker 1: and out of games, he may not be nearly as
Speaker 1: effective as he we're used to seeing him. And he's
Speaker 1: just not someone you couldn't be able to count on
Speaker 1: to just stay healthy. This is a major, major red
Speaker 1: flag for me when it comes to Doug Waldin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I had to move him back down the rankings.
Speaker 1: And you know, we spoke about this myself and Adam Ortist.
Speaker 1: How far down do you move him down the rankings? Because, uh,
Speaker 1: typically when a player comes out and says I'm eighty
Speaker 1: to eight, is that player being like normally they're not
Speaker 1: honest with us, right, So if he says he's eighty
Speaker 1: to maybe he's seventy to seventy percent, Maybe he's fifty
Speaker 1: percent healthy, nobody actually knows, And especially dealing with a
Speaker 1: knee injury. You know, I really was taking what they
Speaker 1: were saying, um, and I was taking the optimistic approach,
Speaker 1: and I thought he would be healthy by the time
Speaker 1: the season started. Everything was trending towards that way. And
Speaker 1: then it comes out and we get this news and
Speaker 1: you know, I drafted him on Sunday UM with the
Speaker 1: second pick of the third round. So I was excited
Speaker 1: to get him there, But now I think you have
Speaker 1: to drop him down a little bit. I think you
Speaker 1: dropped them behind Tyreek Hill, who has looked very good
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He looks like Patrick Mahomes go to guy, Um,
Speaker 1: But I've dropped him behind Digs. I've actually dropped him
Speaker 1: behind Hilton again now, so I think he's more of
Speaker 1: a amid to late third round pick that comes with
Speaker 1: some risk. The upside is still very high, but it's
Speaker 1: going to be more of a pain tolerance thing um
Speaker 1: or Doug Baldwin this year more so than ever before.
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy has been an ironman for in
Speaker 1: the NFL. He hasn't missed a lot of games, but
Speaker 1: I think this is the year where you know he
Speaker 1: might end up being hampered UM. So it's gonna I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna end up affecting his play on field
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I think it has to be. So
Speaker 1: the question is how far does he dropped now? Right,
Speaker 1: like you said, you're the optimistic one. You moved him
Speaker 1: up on the rankings. You said he did a lot
Speaker 1: of rankings updating last night. Where is he now? I
Speaker 1: moved him to thirteam. So I dropped him behind down,
Speaker 1: I dropped him behind c Y Hilton, Stefon Diggs, Tyreek Hill. Um,
Speaker 1: I still have him just ahead of Adam Feeling. I
Speaker 1: think it's very close. Adam Feeling himself left injury, left
Speaker 1: practice yesterday with an injury, with a leg injury. They're
Speaker 1: saying it's not that serious. But again it's like, what
Speaker 1: do you believe when these reports are coming out? Because
Speaker 1: a week ago we thought Doug Baldwin would be fine
Speaker 1: for the season, and now comes out that we have this.
Speaker 1: So tomorrow we'll have Dr A on the show or Virginia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody from somebody from the side injury. So we'll get
Speaker 1: more clarity on this situation. But I'm pretty sure that
Speaker 1: they're going to paint a realistic, but probably more negative
Speaker 1: picture here on Doug Baldwin. Um, because look, it's football.
Speaker 1: It's a contact spoard. I mean, you get tackled low,
Speaker 1: especially with everything that's going on now. Um, with tackling,
Speaker 1: you can't tackle high anymore because the concussions, So a
Speaker 1: lot of guys are going lower and then you go
Speaker 1: for the knees, and you go for the knees and
Speaker 1: that ends up affecting Doug Baldwin and the next thing
Speaker 1: you know, he's out for a few weeks or maybe
Speaker 1: even longer than that. Right where do you feel comfortable
Speaker 1: drafting Doug Ball? Do you drop him below? You know,
Speaker 1: feeling Cooper or Fitzgerald, you know, guys that you might
Speaker 1: be a little bit safer about as a high end
Speaker 1: wide receiver too. I'm going to drop him behind Adam
Speaker 1: feeling like that, I feel confident with. Um so, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be my number thirteen, behind behind feeling and days
Speaker 1: I know we both of him at thirteen. Um So,
Speaker 1: I guess you have somebody else up there? Right, move
Speaker 1: tyre to kill up. You have very hill up. How
Speaker 1: come he looks like Patrick Mahomes go to guy, especially
Speaker 1: in that last game that we saw, I think what
Speaker 1: he hauled in all eight of his targets eight for
Speaker 1: eighty eight. So maybe this year he's more of a
Speaker 1: reception reception beast that go to guy for Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: And you know, Sammy Watkins hasn't really showed up in
Speaker 1: the preseason yet. Maybe they're saving things that they want
Speaker 1: to do with him for the regular season, but as
Speaker 1: of right now, it looks like Tyreek Kills to go
Speaker 1: to for Patrick Momes. Yeah, I I don't disagree. I
Speaker 1: have so I have Baldwin thirteen and Tyreek Hill at
Speaker 1: fourteen right now. Um, they're obviously back to back there,
Speaker 1: that's the right spot for him. I I believe I
Speaker 1: have feeling above him. I'm not sweating knee injury until
Speaker 1: dr a questioned by James Tomorrow. Um, so, yeah, I
Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident with that. Where would I take
Speaker 1: Doug Ball of right? If I'm in the middle of
Speaker 1: the third round, I guess is that will I pull
Speaker 1: the trigger there? Will I feel the trigger on him?
Speaker 1: Or some of the running backs? Like if I have
Speaker 1: a running back in a wide receiver in around into
Speaker 1: this is the question. Right, you're running back in a
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the first two rounds, which a lot
Speaker 1: of people start, A lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 1: you you start. That means you can go in either
Speaker 1: direction in the third round. Theoretically you did Gronk, don't
Speaker 1: take a quarterback. What direction are you going? Do you
Speaker 1: go in? With running These running backs are going in
Speaker 1: the middle of the third round like a Derrick Henry,
Speaker 1: Alex Collins, Royce Freeman, and it was not starting crew.
Speaker 1: And I'll get another name in just one second. Or
Speaker 1: do you go with the wide receiver Doug Baldwin, Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald and Marii Cooper? And if you're in that
Speaker 1: spot the middle of the third round early a little
Speaker 1: bit late, with wherever your your draft is, what do
Speaker 1: you do? You can't say it depends on on on whatever,
Speaker 1: because you know you have a running back in a
Speaker 1: wide receiver right now, I'm giving you that you're You're
Speaker 1: running back and wide receiver are um whoever? I mean
Speaker 1: it does, it doesn't really matter to me. If you
Speaker 1: have won one, what do you do? I think whichever
Speaker 1: position you drafted first, whichever position you feel is stronger.
Speaker 1: Say you start, say you started Antonio Brown Vante Freeman.
Speaker 1: You obviously feel stronger about Antonio Brown as your wide
Speaker 1: receiver one. So in that third round I would take
Speaker 1: the running back to Pairwood Freeman so that I feel
Speaker 1: a little bit better about my running back crew. If
Speaker 1: you started with I don't know, say say Kwon Barkley
Speaker 1: or Leonard four Net or something like that. And then
Speaker 1: in the second round you came back and you took
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen or Michael Thomas. You obviously feel very strongly
Speaker 1: about your running backs. So then maybe in the third round,
Speaker 1: that's where you go ahead and take the wide receiver.
Speaker 1: You take a Cooper or a Tyreek Hill or a
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin. And in the fourth round you see if
Speaker 1: you can get one of those Derrick Henry Royce Freeman
Speaker 1: and maybe the running back. He'll discuss next in the
Speaker 1: fourth round. I have a feeling he's gonna start to
Speaker 1: move up now if you're still drafting. Probably probably so
Speaker 1: probably so. Um. I think it's really tough. I think
Speaker 1: it's really really tough. Thing. Dog Dog Baldwin's previously previously
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you're the third round, you gotta go
Speaker 1: with wide receiver one upside here, which is awesome. Now
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, man, I don't know. I think this
Speaker 1: is a good spot to put him with Cooper and
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald because obviously those guys have their own issues. It's
Speaker 1: actually it's actually amazing that you said that, right, Like,
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald has no issues. What is what is Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald's issue? If he has a hundred pasts every year,
Speaker 1: he scores enough touchdowns every single year, we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald has his issues. What the hell's his issue?
Speaker 1: He's old, he's old. I vent doesn't zero sign of
Speaker 1: slowing down. Venture there's been zero sign of him slowing down.
Speaker 1: I know, but there's gotta be a point where you
Speaker 1: gotta be worried. You still gotta be worried. We didn't
Speaker 1: say never five years, but I think even more so
Speaker 1: this year. Is that all right? While Sam Bradford is
Speaker 1: his quarterback? I think we'll feel very strongly about Fitzgerald
Speaker 1: being peppered with targets. But if something happens to Sam Bradford,
Speaker 1: as injury prone as he is, do we trust Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen to pepper Larry Fitzgerald with targets or does he
Speaker 1: spread it around somebody? Answer that is yes, I do.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what you're standing And
Speaker 1: every other crop quarterback that's not pepperal targets it works, No,
Speaker 1: because a couple of years ago he actually went through
Speaker 1: a renaissance. There was like a two year stretch where
Speaker 1: he was terrible, but he wasn't in the slot yet
Speaker 1: wasn't He wasn't in this role. He wasn't, So I
Speaker 1: think he has changed as a wide receive, not quarterback proof.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think he's become a quarterback proof.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's quarterbacks last year all
Speaker 1: year long, dude, were Drew stand I don't care about
Speaker 1: five years ago. At this point, obviously, I understand like
Speaker 1: what you're trying to bring on. It's his downside though,
Speaker 1: that is his downside. Here we go two thousand and twelve, dude,
Speaker 1: seven hundred yards and four touchdowns. That's six years, two
Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen, seven four and two. He's not touchdown proof.
Speaker 1: You say twelve and thirteen, Just two thousand twelve and
Speaker 1: in two thousand and fourteen. That's six and four and
Speaker 1: six years ago. He's a totally different receiver. This is
Speaker 1: a totally different offense. Everything is different. Well, that changes
Speaker 1: too because the new offensive coordinator as well. That's fair.
Speaker 1: You want to give me that. I'll buy that, because
Speaker 1: Mike McCoy brand new to the system. It's not Bruce
Speaker 1: Harry in the system anymore. I'm going to give you that.
Speaker 1: And the thing is, I don't care. But I think
Speaker 1: once you get into I think that's a good place
Speaker 1: to have Baldwin. It's Baldwin, Cooper, Fitzgerald, that little trio
Speaker 1: right there, that's like the end of the third round.
Speaker 1: Those are the wide receivers that are available. There's risk
Speaker 1: involved with all of them because we've seen the downside.
Speaker 1: I know you say that Fitzgerald is not risky, but
Speaker 1: in my opinion, he is risky because if something happens
Speaker 1: to Sam Bradford, I don't know that he's still going
Speaker 1: to get to the level of production he has in
Speaker 1: past years with Josh Rosen as his quarterback. But I
Speaker 1: don't know that that's gonna happen. But my only my
Speaker 1: response to that is just that it wasn't like Carson
Speaker 1: Palmer was his quarterback for all the last three years.
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer barely played for a lot of that time
Speaker 1: over just over the last three years, and over the
Speaker 1: last three years with really a revolving Dewart quarterback with
Speaker 1: Stanton and I'm blaying Gabber and some other they knew
Speaker 1: the system and Bruce arians was a more upbeat offensive
Speaker 1: attack than I think we're going to expect from Mike McCoy.
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but all I can say over
Speaker 1: the last three years I'm gonna if if you want
Speaker 1: to bring up twelve and fourteen, over the last three years,
Speaker 1: Larry fitz Sheerald has been incredibly over a thousand yards
Speaker 1: and all three of those seasons, and Amari Cooper much younger,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Last year was horrific, and this is six
Speaker 1: years ago. Absolutely last year is horrific. And you can
Speaker 1: point that John Gruden coming in and always prioritizing that
Speaker 1: X wide receiver, and I get that, and that's why
Speaker 1: he's going where he's going now. And you could talk
Speaker 1: about Doug Baldwin, how good he's been with what he's got,
Speaker 1: the knee issue, you want to put him here, that's
Speaker 1: that's fine spot for Doug Baldwin. But Larry Fitzgerald, who
Speaker 1: I don't. I feel like you're constantly passing on, And
Speaker 1: a lot of people are passing on because, as VENTURE said,
Speaker 1: he's old. All the dude does is succeed every year,
Speaker 1: every single freaking year. He's not your wide receiver one,
Speaker 1: he's your wide receiver too, and I think there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that. I don't mind it either. I just
Speaker 1: haven't really had the opportunity to draft him. If if
Speaker 1: I'm on the draft board and it's Amari Cooper versus Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the shot on Amari Cooper, and I
Speaker 1: know he was terrible last year, but again, we're projecting forward.
Speaker 1: I know you're looking at what Fitzgerald has done the
Speaker 1: past three years, but we're thing forward. I think with
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford as his quarterback, he's going to be serviceable.
Speaker 1: There's absolutely no doubt about that. Sam Bradford played what
Speaker 1: two three games last year. The guy has been injury
Speaker 1: prone his entire career. I just don't know that if
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen is the quarterback for this team, that we
Speaker 1: trust Larry Fitzgerald to be this target monster, to be
Speaker 1: this reception monster. We've seen. Um we've seen Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: target Christian Kirk more so in the preseason, and you know,
Speaker 1: maybe he throws more to Ricky Steels Jones, maybe he
Speaker 1: just dumps it off to David Johnson, a toime. I
Speaker 1: just don't know that we can trust Larry Fitzgerald to
Speaker 1: be that guy if something happens to Bradford, which I
Speaker 1: think at some point something is going to happen with Bradford.
Speaker 1: It's not a great offensive line in Arizona either, so
Speaker 1: you know it can easily. I can easily see a
Speaker 1: scenario where Larry Fitzgerald doesn't live up to where he's
Speaker 1: being drafted. Same thing could be said for Mark Cooper,
Speaker 1: and same thing could be said for Doug Baldwin. That's
Speaker 1: why I think they're all in this range and this
Speaker 1: and you previously said, right, this is the Golden Tate
Speaker 1: range too, right, or a little little pat is more
Speaker 1: so in like the next fourth round. Next. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he's in the next tier. And I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: no problem taking Fitzgerald again if he slipped to me
Speaker 1: in the fourth. If it was fitz versus Golden Tape,
Speaker 1: I would take Fits every time. So to me, and
Speaker 1: I'm kind of staring at my Rankees now, to me,
Speaker 1: the one thing you have done, he's moved Doug Baldwin
Speaker 1: out of the t Y Hilton, Mike Evans, Stefon Diggs tier,
Speaker 1: move Tyreek Hill in Doug Baldwin's place into that tier.
Speaker 1: And that necessarily because I didn't move him ahead of
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton. So I don't like him on that
Speaker 1: two three turn. I think you solid third round pick
Speaker 1: because I had Doug Baldwin ahead of you. Yes, you
Speaker 1: have I know that on you have Dig. So the
Speaker 1: order I have it is Evans, Hilton, Digs, Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: Feeling right, Yes, well, where's that? I know that's the order.
Speaker 1: Where's it? Where does the tear really end for you?
Speaker 1: Because like, if you're at that two three turn, I
Speaker 1: know you like Digs, I know you're like Emmans, and
Speaker 1: I know you Let's take Hilton. I know you'll take
Speaker 1: all three of those guys there. Would you pull the
Speaker 1: trigger at that two three turn for Tyreek, Tyreek Hill
Speaker 1: or Adam Feeling if you really want the wide receiver
Speaker 1: like what I did on Sunday in the Carton Draft,
Speaker 1: I started Levian Bell and then I took Stefon Diggs,
Speaker 1: and I took Tug Baldwin with the here you go.
Speaker 1: But if if the draft was happening today, I probably
Speaker 1: would take Tyreek Hill. All right. So so that means
Speaker 1: to me, what you have done, more so than anything,
Speaker 1: is swapped Doug Baldwin and Tyreek Hill, not Tyree Hill
Speaker 1: in the exact same position you had Baldwin, but in
Speaker 1: the tier is what you've done? Yes, essentially? Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: and I'm cool with that, I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1: I don't know yet, I don't know if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do that. We'll see, we'll see. Actually doesn't matter for me.
Speaker 1: By one draft, I have leven the pick and none
Speaker 1: of this will come into relevance probably um, but it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting. I'm very might be a chance that Doug
Speaker 1: Baldin faults you at three eleven and your homely draft,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be faced with the decision. Do I
Speaker 1: want to take this word? Right? Well, I'll be faced.
Speaker 1: But at that point with other risk like Baldwin, Fit,
Speaker 1: Sheldon Cooper all there, when you they all have risk,
Speaker 1: I think they do. I think that's very fair to say.
Speaker 1: I think I would take that. I think the up
Speaker 1: I love show. Yeah, looks if you're a safe, safer
Speaker 1: drafter and you want to build that foundation fits, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But I think at some point upside, it's greater than
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Speaker 1: about the dropping Doug Baldwin, but a guy that we
Speaker 1: really really liked and bias story because we had success
Speaker 1: with him last year. The guy that we really really
Speaker 1: like coming into this year was Kennyan Drake because we
Speaker 1: thought he had the ability to be a low end
Speaker 1: r V one a high end r V two. Of course,
Speaker 1: Miami goes and signed Frank School Frank Gore. Adam Gaze
Speaker 1: puts Frank Gore and Kenyan Drake both as r V
Speaker 1: ones and we all shy away because we were afraid
Speaker 1: about Adam Gaze. Now, as most of our drafts are done,
Speaker 1: as we head into the final draft weekend of the season,
Speaker 1: we look at Kenny and Drake and we look at
Speaker 1: a him Gaze and we passed mostly until Adam Gaze
Speaker 1: comes out and says, ideally, we want to get Kenny
Speaker 1: Drake fifty carries and get him five or six or
Speaker 1: so receptions. If that's the case on the RV one
Speaker 1: that we thought we were gonna we could get Kenyan
Speaker 1: Drake two months ago. Well, that'll happen. But as Adam
Speaker 1: Gaye said in his own words, Adam Gaze as an
Speaker 1: asshole and could he be playing us again quite prosibly,
Speaker 1: quite possibly? Sure with this news, what do you do
Speaker 1: at Kenyan Drake. I've I've of him up a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be too reactionary, but look, this
Speaker 1: is something that we've been looking for for a long
Speaker 1: time now with Kenyan Drake throughout the draft process. One
Speaker 1: of the first shows we did back in July was
Speaker 1: we were talking about players who can help you win
Speaker 1: championships this year. And based on all the metrics from
Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake last year and yards after contact, ability to
Speaker 1: make defenders miss, Kenyan Drake did all of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: he showed us down the stretch last year that he
Speaker 1: can be a workhorse back. He was averaging over twenty
Speaker 1: touches per game. I believe it was the last four
Speaker 1: or five games of the season, So he showed that
Speaker 1: and now he's continuing to show it throughout the preseason. Look,
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out what to do on offense
Speaker 1: with this team. They have no more Jarvis Landry. They
Speaker 1: have Kenny Stills, who's getting pumped up the draft board
Speaker 1: right now. They bring in Danny Amndola, but they signed
Speaker 1: Frank Gore, they draft Calin Bellage. When you do things
Speaker 1: like that in the off season, it makes us, It
Speaker 1: makes us think that you don't have faith in Kenyan Drake.
Speaker 1: Now on one of the you know, during one of
Speaker 1: the last draft weeks of the year, we're getting this
Speaker 1: report from Adam Gates. Personally, I don't know if we
Speaker 1: can trust it. I've continued to say that about Adam
Speaker 1: Adam Gates. I don't trust him to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: But Kenyan Drake is the most talented player on this
Speaker 1: team's offense, and if they want to have any type
Speaker 1: of success this year, the smartest thing for them to
Speaker 1: do would be to get this guy the ball fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty times a game, whether it's on the ground
Speaker 1: through the year, any combination of those get him fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty touches per game, and I think he can
Speaker 1: easily easily pay off being a high end r B two.
Speaker 1: I've moved him up to running back fifteen as of
Speaker 1: right now. I feel a little bit better about him
Speaker 1: than I did last week. Nor I had him in
Speaker 1: that fourth round here originally with you know, guys like
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, Royce Freeman, Jerick McKinnon. Um, but I've moved
Speaker 1: him now ahead of Joe Mixon and Lashawn McCoy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I look Kenyan Drake and now this is something that
Speaker 1: could come into play for me. Um in the end
Speaker 1: of the third round. I'm awful John McCoys. I don't
Speaker 1: even mentioned him in all. Honestly, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: drafting him. Um. I think Kenny and Drake hops over
Speaker 1: your boy, Alex Collins, or me hops over Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: I think for me, I'm gonna now put Kenny and
Speaker 1: Drake probably number sixteen overall. I have him fifteen, one
Speaker 1: spot behind Alex Collins, one spot ahead of Joe Mixon.
Speaker 1: So I still have Joe Mixon one spot ahead of him.
Speaker 1: That's where differences are. Look, Joe, they've made additions to
Speaker 1: the offensive line. You look at what Joe Mixon has
Speaker 1: done in the preseason. There's no space for him to run.
Speaker 1: There's still no space from the run. You'd imagine that
Speaker 1: that offensive line has to be better than what they
Speaker 1: had last year, and I think it will be because
Speaker 1: last year I think that was probably the lowest of
Speaker 1: the low when it comes to offensive line production for
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. They're going to be better this year,
Speaker 1: but they haven't showed it yet in the preseason. So
Speaker 1: I'm worried about that offensive line is right now. And
Speaker 1: you know, when we spoke about Joe Mixon, I mentioned
Speaker 1: Geo Nard has a significant role on this team every
Speaker 1: single season that he's been there with the Bengals. So
Speaker 1: he's still going to He's gonna get his snaps, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be in there on third downs. I just don't
Speaker 1: think Joe Mixon comes in and you know he's touching
Speaker 1: the ball three hundred times this year, I could see
Speaker 1: maybe you know, two and thirty carries and another forty receptions.
Speaker 1: I think Joe Mixon is an amazing receiver, but Gio
Speaker 1: Bernard is not going away. The path to Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: being an RB one this year is if something happens
Speaker 1: to Gio Bernard and probably vice versa. I get it,
Speaker 1: and that's my off Joe mixing for the most part.
Speaker 1: Um But and based on this report, wouldn't you rather
Speaker 1: have Kenyan's rake than Joe Mixon? But how good is
Speaker 1: Miami offensive line? Maybe better yes, that's not it's not
Speaker 1: gonna be a great unit either. I don't know. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm still I think I'm still more nervous ultimately about
Speaker 1: Frank Gore than Gio Bernard, and I think that's why
Speaker 1: I have Mixon once but ahead of Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like I don't think they signed that I like Frank
Speaker 1: Gore unless they want to use him. That's what scares me.
Speaker 1: I disagree. I've read that the main reason they wanted
Speaker 1: to sign Frank Or from Miami he went to the
Speaker 1: U was to kind of help mature Kenyan Drake because
Speaker 1: he we saw someone charity issues last year definitely with
Speaker 1: the brawl was at him throwing his helmet or Jervis Landry,
Speaker 1: it was one of them. Yeah, So I read a
Speaker 1: lot that they brought Frank Gore into Shore up the
Speaker 1: professionalism of a Kenyan. Jon Stewart, you're saying, sure if
Speaker 1: he makes the team, right, Um, I think for Frank Or,
Speaker 1: he probably get six to eight touches a game something
Speaker 1: like that, So that's like a true backup role. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, Okay, well that's what I'm hoping. That's probably
Speaker 1: my optimistic approach. But based on this, if they want
Speaker 1: to get the ball to Kenyan Drake twenty times a game.
Speaker 1: How much is available for Frank or probably six to
Speaker 1: eight touches again, totally totally agree. Okay, so, and I
Speaker 1: think Gio Bernard has more of a role than that,
Speaker 1: so he's probably in the ten touch range. I do
Speaker 1: have them back to back, mixing, mixing and dre ultimately
Speaker 1: at fifteen and sixteen. Like I have had at four
Speaker 1: team consistently throughout all of this has been Jared McKinnon,
Speaker 1: who I know you don't like, and I think we
Speaker 1: have to get into McKinnon here for a few moments,
Speaker 1: because Alfred Morris carried the rock in a major way
Speaker 1: in the third preseason game with McKinnon and Brita's still
Speaker 1: sideline in that game. And that's exactly why I bring
Speaker 1: it up. The offensive line look incredible, and you know why,
Speaker 1: because the offensive line always looks incredible and Kyle Shannahan offense.
Speaker 1: I cannot stress this enough that if you could figure
Speaker 1: out who the running back is is gonna get the
Speaker 1: majority of touches, you want to own them in this offense.
Speaker 1: It's the same reasoning we have with Carlos Hide, and
Speaker 1: it's the same reason why I still have Jered McKinnon here.
Speaker 1: The problem is mckinnony is coming here like back from
Speaker 1: that shoulder injury. I had read report and I apologize
Speaker 1: because I don't remember um who said it on Twitter
Speaker 1: but said that it might. Even Evan Silva that had
Speaker 1: that says al Alfred Morris maybe the best zone blocking
Speaker 1: running back in this offense now and I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he did play it obviously very successfully in
Speaker 1: Washington in the first year of his career under the shadowhands.
Speaker 1: He knows the system very very well. Now, follow the
Speaker 1: money Jared MacKinnon got paid. They're certainly going to utilize McKinnon.
Speaker 1: But Kenny stay healthy. You had your doubts about that,
Speaker 1: giving him his size given the workload. That's why I
Speaker 1: have McKinnon up here. I asked her, I believe it
Speaker 1: was yesterday. Do you take a late round flyer on
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris and you're like, maybe you could see it
Speaker 1: in the last round. There's no there's no values, no costs.
Speaker 1: They're sure, but I want to own the running back here.
Speaker 1: That's why ultimately I still have McKinnon. And I'm very
Speaker 1: nervous and if I draft McKinnon in the last round.
Speaker 1: I will make sure I grab Alfred Morris's a handcuff
Speaker 1: or is it Matt Breda though. That's the thing. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be frustrating, Greg. That's why I'm just off this situation.
Speaker 1: Like you want to. I understand you want. You want
Speaker 1: to be part of the coug You absolutely want to.
Speaker 1: Every everywhere he has been, from Atlanta to Washington to Houston,
Speaker 1: they've all been successful. And there's so many situations like
Speaker 1: you can point out. We point out Tennessee with Dean
Speaker 1: Lewis and Derrick Henry. We point out Denver with stupid
Speaker 1: DeVante Booker and Roy Spreeman, the nonsense in Philly. There's
Speaker 1: all his question marks and we don't even know what
Speaker 1: the running games are going to be good in those systems,
Speaker 1: Like we cannot guarantee that. I can guarantee you right
Speaker 1: now the running game is going to be successful in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. And that's why I need to get the
Speaker 1: running back. I just don't know who it is. That's
Speaker 1: why three years ago I love Devonte Freeman, where everyone
Speaker 1: was like last year, I love Carlos Hide. Everyone's like
Speaker 1: I need to love the running back I just have
Speaker 1: to figure out who it is. And that's why I
Speaker 1: say it's not worth investing a third round pick but
Speaker 1: Derrick McKinney, because what if it's not him Greg? What if?
Speaker 1: What if he What if he starts the year, gets
Speaker 1: hurt or is underperforming, Then it becomes Matt Breeda, Then
Speaker 1: it becomes Alfred Morris. Matt Breeda was very involved in
Speaker 1: this team's offense down the stretch last year, so Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan already knows what he has in Matt Brida. I
Speaker 1: think it was the final five weeks of the season
Speaker 1: he was above double digit carries. We know, and we
Speaker 1: know the receptions went down for the running back towards
Speaker 1: the end of the year once Jimmy Garoppolo took over. Now,
Speaker 1: I do think they're gonna get that right. I think
Speaker 1: there are receptions to be had for running backs on
Speaker 1: this team. But I mentioned this a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and how crazy would it be if this actually happens.
Speaker 1: But three different running backs this year in San Francisco
Speaker 1: getting eight plus carries for this team, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's outside the Roman possibility. I think they'll they could
Speaker 1: try and ride Jerk McKinnon. If that doesn't work out,
Speaker 1: or if he gets hurt, or if they realize he's
Speaker 1: better in a past catching capacity in that role in
Speaker 1: the running back by my committee, then maybe he gets
Speaker 1: a few carries. But then maybe Alfred Morris steps in
Speaker 1: for a portion of the season, but he's a little
Speaker 1: bit older now, making Matt Breeda steps in. That's why
Speaker 1: I can't invest an early third round pick in Jerick McKinnon.
Speaker 1: I understand wanting to have exposure to the Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: running back, but to me, it's just too hard to
Speaker 1: figure out, and I think it's gonna be a mess.
Speaker 1: I get it. I completely get that. So you obviously
Speaker 1: took Jered bmckinnon at the end of the fourth round.
Speaker 1: You know, the draft last Sunday or two days ago. Now,
Speaker 1: I can't believe there's just two days as um luke
Speaker 1: Wickinnon there, everybody has a price. You felt comfortable there
Speaker 1: in a full point PPR league, you can still have
Speaker 1: six plus. That's no, that's no question taking him there
Speaker 1: where where he's the earliest you would feel comfortable taking him. Fine,
Speaker 1: you don't want him the early in the early third round?
Speaker 1: What number rank is Jerry McKinnon and your running back
Speaker 1: ranks at the moment. Wow, he's still that low. Okay,
Speaker 1: so means he's after I know he's after Alex Collin's obviously,
Speaker 1: he's after Joe Mixon, he's after Derrick Henry, he's after
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman. In half point PPR, I would take Royce
Speaker 1: Freeman because it was full point PPR. I took McKinnon
Speaker 1: just because overall, I think he can have more receptions
Speaker 1: this year. But in the half point, the half point,
Speaker 1: I rank it so in standard I rank it as
Speaker 1: who is most likely to score the most touchdowns? Right
Speaker 1: of course, PPR, I say who's most likely? In half point,
Speaker 1: I rank it who's gonna be the best player right combined,
Speaker 1: right right between receptions, yards, touchdowns. But I think it's
Speaker 1: I think Freeman can be better overall in both in
Speaker 1: rushing capacity, touchdowns, receptions, all things combined. Me that's a
Speaker 1: really deeper I think it's a really dangerous prospect to take.
Speaker 1: When Dvante Booker has been announced as a starting running
Speaker 1: back in deninbur and we can also we could snicker,
Speaker 1: you could laugh, and that's fine, but you're drafting, and
Speaker 1: I listen. I did this last year, and maybe that's
Speaker 1: why I had the trepidation as my r V two
Speaker 1: and I started wide receiver wide receiver Michael Thomas a
Speaker 1: Mark Cooper last year, and that obviously did not wreaking
Speaker 1: out because Mark Cooper sucks. We came back in the
Speaker 1: third round. I think I had ten or eleven the
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, and I started with Dalvin Cooke.
Speaker 1: Is my RB one fine? I like Dalvin Cook, he
Speaker 1: was good. My RV two Joe Mixon and Jeremy Hill
Speaker 1: was announced as the starter last year, and we said,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Joe Mixon is the guy you want
Speaker 1: to own in Denver. And it took until like week
Speaker 1: three or four or five, whether they finally it was
Speaker 1: after the bye whenever that was for Cincinnati where they
Speaker 1: finally unleashed Joe Mixon. Nothing went anywhere, but they finally
Speaker 1: unleash Joe Mixon after the bye. By then, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean drafting Mary Cooper and Devin Cook getting hurt
Speaker 1: obviously sucking for me. But but then if he's den
Speaker 1: in the water, and by the time that Denver advanced
Speaker 1: Joseph and the offensive coordinator, everybody think is where's the
Speaker 1: OPFIC coordinator until they necessarily wake up with Royce Freeman.
Speaker 1: You may be den in the water like I like
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman, but where he's going right now, he's your
Speaker 1: RV two and he has performed like an RV two.
Speaker 1: This is the problem when you move all of these
Speaker 1: guys up, as Chris Hogan flies up draft boards who
Speaker 1: we like. You know, obviously some of these guys like
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins had moved up previously. Now he's fallen back down.
Speaker 1: They need to give the value that where they're being drafted,
Speaker 1: and that's occasion with Royce Freeman right now. So that's
Speaker 1: why I'm having I'm drafting Jerry McKinnon over Royce Freeman
Speaker 1: because I think what Jerry McKinnon is healthy, he's the starter.
Speaker 1: I believe that more so than I believe that Royce
Speaker 1: Freeman is a starter because his team already now he's
Speaker 1: not well. Just because your announced the starter, Greggy, what
Speaker 1: does that mean Devantae Booker gets the first carry the game.
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman's in on the next series, fine, but Royce
Speaker 1: Freeman is not going to out carry. I believe Ray
Speaker 1: Stream is not gonna out carried him. He's a more
Speaker 1: talented player. Can can we agree on that undoubtedly more
Speaker 1: talented player then then Devantay Booker fine, absolutely better than
Speaker 1: Jack McKinnon too. I don't want I don't think you
Speaker 1: could do that yet, man, I don't think you could do.
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman was the running back in San Francisco, right
Speaker 1: Roy Streeman was right back at San Francisco. Royce Freeman
Speaker 1: will be going the top ten probably. Um, that's the
Speaker 1: worry I have with Roy Streeman. And this is really
Speaker 1: the problem with all of these guys in this situation.
Speaker 1: Why don't you have that same worry about Jack mcka
Speaker 1: I do have that, but I mean like being a
Speaker 1: time split, and I don't think it's going to be
Speaker 1: I don't think you go out. I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: have twenty touches the game. I think they would love
Speaker 1: to be healthy. I think they'd love to do that.
Speaker 1: Yet maybe now then he's gonna be hurt by week
Speaker 1: three and he's gonna be on the I R. You
Speaker 1: keep saying that, but he's never been hurt. He's hurt
Speaker 1: right now, Greg preseason. He's hurting the preseason, doesn't cal not?
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Jack McKinnon is not capable of being
Speaker 1: a workhorse running back. He's not capable of twenty touches
Speaker 1: per game? Can he can he be six to eight
Speaker 1: carries and five six receptions? Yeah, I think it could
Speaker 1: be there. I think it could be around fourteen fifteen
Speaker 1: touches a game. That's Jack McKinnon. I think that's what
Speaker 1: he's capable of, and I think if they try to
Speaker 1: work him more than that, that's the path to Jack
Speaker 1: McKinnon getting hurt very early on in the season, especially
Speaker 1: the fact that he's coming off an injury already. What
Speaker 1: is this injury? I think it was shoulder. I think
Speaker 1: he had both of those throughout the preseason. I don't
Speaker 1: know what with the shoulder were Kiddle who returned to practice,
Speaker 1: which is great history if you d have the George
Speaker 1: Kittle um half, Jack McKinnon calf. It was me to
Speaker 1: be held out of preseason and then it was you
Speaker 1: know what, Brita has the shoulder. We're asking doctor right
Speaker 1: about this tomorrow. He's already confirmed it and he asked
Speaker 1: him about Jerk McKinnon already probably poo poo did Yeah,
Speaker 1: how much do you need to hear about Jerk McKinnon
Speaker 1: being hurt and being a high injury risk for the season,
Speaker 1: are you drop him down your rank? I understand that
Speaker 1: there's risk with both McKinnon and Royce Freeman, but I
Speaker 1: think it's it's tough because if you drafted Freeman as
Speaker 1: your RB two, you're expecting him to contribute right away
Speaker 1: him and theoretically, I can see maybe the first game
Speaker 1: he doesn't get all the work obviously, but I think
Speaker 1: it will be not very long into the season before
Speaker 1: we see Royce Freeman at the work course for Denver.
Speaker 1: I hope not. I hope not. I hope Denver smart
Speaker 1: like that. I only he gets off to a slow
Speaker 1: start bylow easily. I don't think you just say that,
Speaker 1: dude on Royce Freeman. Joe Mason is He's prime example,
Speaker 1: the prime example. How many people Joe Bernard is a
Speaker 1: better player than DeVante Booker? Is we see Geo Bernardi's
Speaker 1: NFL worthy running back. Absolutely, we haven't seen Devontae Booker
Speaker 1: do anything. Why is he this team starter? I get it, man.
Speaker 1: I think Vans Joseph is just doing one of these
Speaker 1: old timer things where he's like, the rookie needs to
Speaker 1: earn the starting job. That's you're right. Let's make DeVante
Speaker 1: Booker the starter to light a fire under say. Everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna say by Low and Royce Freeman is better. Everybody's
Speaker 1: gonna say by Low on this dude. And it may
Speaker 1: be perfectly, may be right one thousand percent, or may
Speaker 1: might not be able to bylow on him. Because after
Speaker 1: Devontae Booker sucks in the first series of the game,
Speaker 1: Royce Freeman is gonna come in and dominate more training
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Speaker 1: Healthy debate any other news main news and notes of
Speaker 1: training camp before we get to the telephone calls. I
Speaker 1: think we've covered it. We've hit on Baldwin, we've hit
Speaker 1: on Kenyan Drake. You never did you say if you
Speaker 1: would take Kenyan Drake over Joe Mixon. I say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think it's very close. I could switch
Speaker 1: that I had I said I had mixing over Drake.
Speaker 1: I could say, must see myself switching that though, So
Speaker 1: it falls back to three eleven in your home league draft,
Speaker 1: you start running back wide receiver, and both of those
Speaker 1: guys are on the board, I probably lean Drake. If
Speaker 1: the gun to my head, I guess that's my answer
Speaker 1: I would take. I would take Drake. He's looked great
Speaker 1: in the preseason. I mean, both guys playing behind bad
Speaker 1: offensive lines. Here's look better. Here's the better question you have.
Speaker 1: Ken You have Kenyan Drake. That's there, Kenny Jake and
Speaker 1: Joe Mixer there and Doug Ball and Larry Fitts, Cheryla,
Speaker 1: Mark Cooper. That whole crew is there. What do you
Speaker 1: do first? I don't know. A you mean the guy
Speaker 1: as weel've also went started running back wide receiver. So
Speaker 1: I would take who is the one you value? The
Speaker 1: player I value most of that group is. I would
Speaker 1: take Kenyan Drake and take whatever wider receiving falls back
Speaker 1: to me, because even if that guy takes two, you're
Speaker 1: gonna end up with either Fitzgeryld Cooper or Doug Baldwin. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense. Then I think I probably
Speaker 1: do that also, but I also take Kenyan, Draco Routs Collins.
Speaker 1: Stop it. I'm not stop it right there, Listen, I
Speaker 1: was wrong about Blakes now and that worked out because
Speaker 1: I drafted place now. Thank you, Thank you, Chris um Frank.
Speaker 1: Hopefully you're right at at Alex Collins, I don't own
Speaker 1: him in a single place. Can't be much worse than
Speaker 1: my Raphael devers our hour, ralphaiel Never's life that was hours.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna let you take the fall
Speaker 1: in the same way that I've I've single handedly controlled
Speaker 1: Alex Collins ADP moving in the third round. Listen, you
Speaker 1: have gone Ballston Walls same. No one's been as high
Speaker 1: on this guy as you have. That I've spoken to
Speaker 1: you or I've read it. It's been you. So if
Speaker 1: he hits all you, I single handedly controlled that. I've
Speaker 1: also controlled Jerk McKinnon falling back into the third round.
Speaker 1: Probably not that one, itabury. Probably the Alex Collins thing.
Speaker 1: If you nail it, it's all you. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: you a million percent credit of it. But if you
Speaker 1: is the starter in a week two, if you can
Speaker 1: get it wrong, that is completely your sword and I'm
Speaker 1: going to bring Let you put me through this table.
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, that's fine, Let you try. You can
Speaker 1: put me through the table. If you nail it. How's
Speaker 1: that all right? Here? That's fine? Probably not this table,
Speaker 1: but we'll get a table that seems fair. You'll hit
Speaker 1: me the steel chair. How's that all right? Real? Eight
Speaker 1: four four eight four three six seven nine. Let's talk
Speaker 1: to you guys on the phones at the moment. I
Speaker 1: want to begin with Randy Ian Brooklyn. You were up first.
Speaker 1: You kick it off here the show. UH love everything
Speaker 1: about it. I just wanted to do. Uh. I have
Speaker 1: a quick question basically just then think that's a great
Speaker 1: uh my team. Well, I'm harsher greater than Franks, So
Speaker 1: good luck Frank. Thanks funny guy, uh um uh, it's
Speaker 1: all teen PPR. You guys are talking about Joe makes
Speaker 1: the Kenyan Drake, so funny. I drafted Joe from them. Okay,
Speaker 1: I drafted both of them on the three four turn
Speaker 1: I got um uh. The guy from Minnesota, what's ther Man?
Speaker 1: That's Cook Cook Hopkins, Luck, Yeah, Doyle, Allan, Robinson, ah
Speaker 1: My bench Lynch, Watkins, Ummes, Watkins, Michael Prattree. That's all
Speaker 1: teen PPR. What do you what do you guys think
Speaker 1: about that? Frank? Can you be the greater first? So
Speaker 1: we're looking at Andrew Look as the quarterback. We have
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, Joe Mixon, Kenyan Drake Marshawn Lynch on the bench,
Speaker 1: great running back dep and you have DeAndre Hopkins, so
Speaker 1: he started out. He obviously started Hawkins Cook that was
Speaker 1: always started out, ye, and then you have DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: You have Allen Robinson as your wide receiver too, and
Speaker 1: then you have Sammy Watkins, Michael Crabtree. I would like
Speaker 1: for the wide receivers to be a little bit stronger
Speaker 1: outside of DeAndre Hopkins. But I love the running back depth.
Speaker 1: I like the starting running backs. I moved Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: down my rankings a little bit. He showed some rust
Speaker 1: absolutely throughout the preseason, but I like to seem a
Speaker 1: lot he would be plus. Yeah. You know what's funny,
Speaker 1: I wasn't given the names. I was just gonna be
Speaker 1: a nicer greader there. I thought you did a really
Speaker 1: nice job with that running back death. You have a
Speaker 1: strong wide receiver one in DeAndre Hopkins. Um. I think
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson's fine. I think you have the running back
Speaker 1: depths a hit the wide receiverer two position. Frank loves
Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree, so that's good. Um. Love him pretty much
Speaker 1: poop pooed him going in the five sixth round. I'm
Speaker 1: giving you a name, minus man. I think you had
Speaker 1: a nice job. Randy's like that to stuff. Let's go
Speaker 1: Tomario and Tamba. What's up man? Hey you guys? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do it one. Hey? Hey, what's going on before?
Speaker 1: To get you? Guys are really business a great show?
Speaker 1: But I no problem. I really really need you guys help.
Speaker 1: I'm in a four teen teams stand standard fourteen team league.
Speaker 1: We just changed flips position this year. It used to
Speaker 1: be receiver tight end, now it's now receiver tight end
Speaker 1: running back. I'm considering I have the number one pick overall.
Speaker 1: I'm considering going three running backs in a row because
Speaker 1: my league is very, very competitive, and I know a
Speaker 1: few of the guys are gonna do the same strategy,
Speaker 1: use the same strategy. Who would you think at number one?
Speaker 1: Like this is like it has to be on point.
Speaker 1: I'm torn between Johnson and Levian Bill. I would say,
Speaker 1: none of those guys. Why aren't what girl? He's the
Speaker 1: best player in the NFL. I mean to me, there's
Speaker 1: something up or something wrong with each one of the
Speaker 1: running backs. You take Levion, Girl, For instance, everyone thinks
Speaker 1: that there's not like David Jonathan the injury issues. That's fine,
Speaker 1: new offense, I get it. Levy On Bell hasn't showed
Speaker 1: up to camp and he's not come back by lavery day.
Speaker 1: Fine though he's the number two pick. Get it. There's
Speaker 1: not a thing wrong with the Gurley I'm not running
Speaker 1: back schedule, schedule, run the schedule. You have no idea
Speaker 1: who's running is gonna be good or bad? Yet you
Speaker 1: have no idea that's true. I'm looking at the defenses
Speaker 1: of the teams he's gonna be playing and the worst
Speaker 1: who knows those defenses are gonna be man? Just look
Speaker 1: inside the division. The Seahawks have lost a lot of
Speaker 1: pieces in their defense. The forty Niners have tours. By
Speaker 1: running back to the past couple of years, Cardinals best defense,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are a good defense. Those are gonna be
Speaker 1: tough matchups, but in my opinion, Tod Gurley's matchup proof
Speaker 1: you're not worried about that. And the non PPR. You're
Speaker 1: looking who has the most touchdown upside Todd Gurley inside
Speaker 1: the red zone. Let all running backs in rushing attempts
Speaker 1: last year inside the ten let all running backs in
Speaker 1: rushing inside the five, greggy who led all running backs
Speaker 1: in rushing and stamps that would be Todd Gurley. He's
Speaker 1: gonna score the most TOUCHDOW. He's number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: It's going to Leo in New Jersey. It's going on Leo.
Speaker 1: What's up, guys, Jarmon? Yeah, what's up? Man? Okay? So,
Speaker 1: I'm a Doug Baldwin owner myself, and I'm a little
Speaker 1: concerned with my wide receivers est this news. So I've
Speaker 1: got I've got Baldwin, Marvin Jones, and Emmanuel Sanders. I
Speaker 1: just want to hear you guys thoughts on Sanders. Uh,
Speaker 1: my personal contumes. I saw you know, we saw Keenum
Speaker 1: in Minnesota last season. We had Digs, Deeling and Rudolph
Speaker 1: all producing like peace last season. Could we expect the
Speaker 1: same from Damarius and Emmanuel Sanders. So I like Emmanuel Sanders.
Speaker 1: I've been on I've been on him throughout the draft process.
Speaker 1: I think it's a good pick. Um. He's not the
Speaker 1: problem on your team. Uh, it's starting Doug Ball and
Speaker 1: Morven Jones. Unfortunately, we talked to Marvin Jones yesterday. Regards
Speaker 1: to Kenny Golladay, Doug Baldwin, we obviously spoke about today.
Speaker 1: You don't have that true wide receiver one on there,
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, kind of your middling or wide receiver two.
Speaker 1: And Manuel Sanders I believe the high high wide receiver three,
Speaker 1: low end wide receiver too. The wide receiver scary situation
Speaker 1: for you, A little bit scary, Frankie, Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: agree with that. Look, your running backs have to be
Speaker 1: stacked here. If this is your wide receiver group. Again,
Speaker 1: there's obviously risk. I wind Doug Baldwin. I was very
Speaker 1: very bullish on him. I just wish this injury didn't occur.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, we just have to play a week
Speaker 1: by week now, I mean him saying he's gonna play
Speaker 1: at about Look, Emmanuel Sanders lined up a ton in
Speaker 1: the slot in that third preseason game, and we know
Speaker 1: Case Keenum loves throwing to the slot. I've moved Emmanuel
Speaker 1: Sanders up my rankings up to wide receiver twenty five,
Speaker 1: So Grant, I agree with you. I think he's a
Speaker 1: high end wide receiver three, low end wide receiver two.
Speaker 1: I think Kate Keenum could be could be good enough
Speaker 1: where Emmanuel Sanders and Marus Thomas both finished as top
Speaker 1: twenty four wide receivers this season. Um and then there'll
Speaker 1: be a mishmash of Jake but will have a few
Speaker 1: big games. Courtlets Sutton will have a few big games.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm pumping the brakes a little bit on
Speaker 1: Sutton because people are getting very, very excited about Sutton,
Speaker 1: and I like him, and I like his talent. But
Speaker 1: to me, the passing game is still going to go
Speaker 1: through a manual Standers and Marius Thomas on this team.
Speaker 1: I just think Cortland Sutton will consistently be the third
Speaker 1: target in this team's offense, and he'll have some big games,
Speaker 1: but I think it's going to be mostly inconsistent for
Speaker 1: so I I understand what you're saying at Cortland Sutton,
Speaker 1: and I think you're right, but I haven't seen his
Speaker 1: draft price all of a sudden, like scorch up. Like
Speaker 1: we read a lot of good stuff in training camera,
Speaker 1: people are moving to Marus Thomas down with the idea
Speaker 1: that Courtland Sutton is going to have this big role
Speaker 1: in the fine I think you're right, But then Courtland
Speaker 1: Sutton's value is actually stay pretty consistent where he's one
Speaker 1: of these late round of flyers going along with the
Speaker 1: other rookie wide receivers, like I'm going right around Calvin
Speaker 1: Ridleyton guys. Yeah, and I think that's where he should
Speaker 1: be gone. I personally, I like the situation for Washington
Speaker 1: a little bit more more than all I want to share.
Speaker 1: I like every rookie wide receiver that you've mentioned situation better.
Speaker 1: I'll even put DJ more in that category. I like
Speaker 1: his situation more so than Courtland Sutton. I would rank
Speaker 1: Coortland Sutton behind Ridley Gallup, Washington and d J. Moore
Speaker 1: as well. I would have above DJ Moore, and I
Speaker 1: have a little above James Washington. You don't think that
Speaker 1: there's a chance that d J Moore don't. He comes
Speaker 1: the wide receiver one on this team, not top target overall,
Speaker 1: but gets more targets consistently. I think there's I think
Speaker 1: there's like a seventy chance. Really wow, That's why I
Speaker 1: don't feel strongly about Devin Functions. I haven't ranked outside
Speaker 1: of my top forty wide receivers in every format. I
Speaker 1: don't know why he's good. I still think that McCaffrey
Speaker 1: is gonna get his targets. Greg Olson's gonna get his targets.
Speaker 1: And look, you don't draft d J Moore first round
Speaker 1: wide receiver if you were sold on Devin Functions, do
Speaker 1: whatever you want, j Calvit. The Falcons are sold on
Speaker 1: Julio Jones and Jenny Calvit really in the first round. Ye, Well,
Speaker 1: maybe they don't like Mohammed's new Maybe they want to
Speaker 1: a wide receiver too. That's great. I think they drafted
Speaker 1: DJ Moore to be the wide receiver one of the
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Speaker 1: hit out Adrian Ian Canada. What's going on? Adrian? Hey, Greg,
Speaker 1: Frank and Chris in the back there. Uh, I just
Speaker 1: want you guys to critique my team. I'm in a
Speaker 1: twelve team standard and with my league, if you you
Speaker 1: have two keepers, if you're keeping a running back, you
Speaker 1: would start at thirty three dollars for that running back,
Speaker 1: and if you kept a wide receiver, it would be
Speaker 1: thirty dollars. So I started my draft with two running back,
Speaker 1: so I started at sixty or six dollars and I
Speaker 1: was the eleventh pick. So here's my team. I got
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson as my quarterback, Leonard Fournette as my running back,
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt as my running back, Stefon Dix as my
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Josh Gordon as my wide receiver. I got
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle as my tight end, and on my bend,
Speaker 1: I got Jared Goff, Aaron Jones, Adrian Peterson, Marky's Goodwin,
Speaker 1: and Karon Marathon Freggie. Give him the grade obviously. The
Speaker 1: running backs are phenomenal. Um, Leonard Fournett and Kareem Hunt,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson love it. Stefon Diggs, don't mind him as
Speaker 1: your wide receiver one when you have those running backs.
Speaker 1: Um again, Josh Gordon, Ideally I wanted to be my
Speaker 1: wide receiver three, but you could play the matchups with
Speaker 1: him and Marky's Goodwin, Jack Doyle, I think is a
Speaker 1: low end tight end one. Um, I love the running backs.
Speaker 1: I'll give this team a B plus as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this one's more of a B plus for me as well.
Speaker 1: I'll go to a nice job. Yeah, good stuff, good luck.
Speaker 1: We we appreciate the support. Alright, I fout a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes here, Uh Freggie, if you want to join
Speaker 1: the show, of course, A four, three, uh six, eight
Speaker 1: seven nine, healthy to beat. Here you mentioned and one
Speaker 1: thing you mentioned and we had talked that yesterday was
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck and he dropped him down a little bit.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because he was the guy that everyone
Speaker 1: was so optimistic about last year there was a disaster,
Speaker 1: and he shows that they do want in training cambine.
Speaker 1: He's throwing passes, and he played in every preseason game
Speaker 1: and everyone moved them back up. And I moved them
Speaker 1: up to my number six quarterback actually, and he's no,
Speaker 1: I moved them to my number six quarterback. And then
Speaker 1: you read about about you were you what you had said? Right?
Speaker 1: He wasn't back at full strength and even some time
Speaker 1: like a knee injury, and I'm just like, is the
Speaker 1: problem because he over compensating his shoulder a little bit
Speaker 1: maybe driving the knees too much, something like that. So
Speaker 1: obviously we don't know the terms, and actually asked Andrew,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask about Andrew Luck tomorrow, doctor, I wanna
Speaker 1: don't real list right now. Um. So I was just like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: is this guy just a little bit too injury prone? Now?
Speaker 1: Is he just not going to be the Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: that we remember? And I think that affects t Hilton certainly,
Speaker 1: and obviously affects lucks value. And I think there's just
Speaker 1: so many quarterbacks on the board that we're Luck's going
Speaker 1: and they want to go in a different direct. Wait
Speaker 1: did you drop him, dear Frankie? So I just pulled
Speaker 1: it up and I didn't realize I dropped him this low.
Speaker 1: But I haven't a QB eleven. Wow. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: have that middle tier Tier two for me, Shaun Watson
Speaker 1: right outside the elite tier looking in. But I understand
Speaker 1: if you want to push my hands, I have in
Speaker 1: the same spot. I have Kirk Cousins at six, Drew
Speaker 1: Brees at seven, Big Bennett eight, Patrick Mahomes at nine
Speaker 1: starts the next tier, and then Jimmy g and the
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. Interesting. So the one. So I kind of
Speaker 1: agree with most of that. I haven't really moved my quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I just kind of leave him that I'm getting very
Speaker 1: excited about Patrick Mahomes, and that's fine. I've kind of left.
Speaker 1: I haven't justed this at all because I haven't got enough.
Speaker 1: Then re quest to um the one guy you didn't
Speaker 1: name in that crew. I noticed with Matthew Stafford, I'm
Speaker 1: not a Stafford guy. I'm not a Stafford guy this year. Again,
Speaker 1: I've kind of painted the picture when we went through
Speaker 1: the quarterback rankings. Is that by the seasons and he's
Speaker 1: an accumulator. Yeah, he's gonna he looks great because he
Speaker 1: finishes inside the top eight quarterback, but if you sort
Speaker 1: that by points per game, he finishes outside the top twelve.
Speaker 1: You want quarterback second to help you win weeks and
Speaker 1: having a stafe floor for a quarterback. I understand if
Speaker 1: that's what you want. If that's what you're looking for
Speaker 1: out of your quarterback, fine, take Matthew Stafford, Take Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: But I drafted Stafford last year. Is my quarterback in
Speaker 1: one league, and I dropped him by week three because
Speaker 1: I see guys like Deshaun Watson coming up. I ended
Speaker 1: up dropping Stafford for de Shaun Watson in that league,
Speaker 1: and until Watson got hurt, I thought, I found a
Speaker 1: gym and I'm gonna take a shot on one of
Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks who I think have that to Shaun
Speaker 1: Watson type upside. I just want to take the shot
Speaker 1: on the upside quarterback rather than the boring Stafford. And
Speaker 1: he's going so late that you can take Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: or Jimmy g earlier in the round and then wait
Speaker 1: two three rounds later and get Stafford if you really
Speaker 1: do want him to have that staple backup. I just
Speaker 1: rather take the shot on the upside of Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: or Jimmy Garoppolo. In my opinion, that's why they're inside
Speaker 1: my top ten. Now there you go. That's the latest
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