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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast didn't come here to make friends.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan hansis joined by a room full

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Speaker 1: of heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal the Boss.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Boys? What is happening? How are you? How

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Speaker 1: are you going? I love that? I love that injury.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Matt money Smith that we didn't give

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Speaker 1: credit to uh last week for voicing that introduction and

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Speaker 1: it's just fantastic. He actually gets one point three million

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Speaker 1: dollars in royalties for every time we use it, so

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Speaker 1: I think he should be thanking us. You know, the

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Speaker 1: regular season is fast approaching today Monday, Greg, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start with you. What are the top headlines? I think

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Speaker 1: you gotta start with A. J. Jenkins the trade to

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, Jonathan Baldwin going to San Francisco. Maybe not

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Speaker 1: making the biggest football impact, but it's interesting. How often

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Speaker 1: do we see two first round picks traded for each

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Speaker 1: other basically just in a challenge trade. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: my guy is better than your guy? Right? I don't

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Speaker 1: remember anything like this, especially didn't they play against each

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Speaker 1: other the other night too? Yeah? They did. They saw

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Baldwin just mangle a pass over the middle, and

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Speaker 1: yet they still tried to acquire him as he is

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Speaker 1: want to do. It is funny to imagine these two

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Speaker 1: g ms calling up each other and you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of moaning to each other about what a mess they

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Speaker 1: have in these first round picks, and like, hey, do

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Speaker 1: you want my guy? Do you want my guy? It's

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Speaker 1: almost so clean to imagine that this could happen, but

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Speaker 1: it is. And now it kind of makes sense, though,

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Speaker 1: I mean, what does either side, What does either side

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Speaker 1: have to lose? You take on guys, two guys that

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Speaker 1: have I guess good measurables but haven't shown anything, and

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Speaker 1: now they get it at least one more chance to

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Speaker 1: start over. I'd like to know who actually picked up

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Speaker 1: the phone first. I would I would guess Kansas City though,

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Speaker 1: because I think they are just completely done with Baldwin

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Speaker 1: and I don't know. For me, I think the forty

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Speaker 1: Niners get a little bit more of an edge in

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Speaker 1: the trade, but it is a complete wash on some level.

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Speaker 1: Would be I wouldn't be surprised if neither made the team.

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Speaker 1: Well A. J. Jenkins doesn't have any production in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Baldwin we've seen make a few plays. He's actually

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Speaker 1: guaranteed money this year, I think a million dollars. I

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Speaker 1: think he could play for that team, just because they

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Speaker 1: don't have anyone at wide receiver and we're seeing Chad

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Speaker 1: Baldwin plays and uh, Jim Jim Harbaugh, you know, sprinkles

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Speaker 1: his magic offensive dust. That seems to work on some

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Speaker 1: of those players. I would look at it the other way.

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Speaker 1: We've seen John Baldwin play a lot of games, and

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Speaker 1: we know he's not good. We know he's kind of

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Speaker 1: a bum. He can't get off the jam, he has

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Speaker 1: bad hands, he's slow after the catch. We haven't seen

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Speaker 1: a J. Jenkins playing. Maybe there's something there. It is

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Speaker 1: a little strange to me though, Uh. And you know,

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Speaker 1: by trading Jenkins away, it's an admission of failure on

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Speaker 1: some level by the Niners for a team that has

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Speaker 1: hardball entrenched up top, and they've made so many good

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Speaker 1: reminds me of the Patriots. I think they do one

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Speaker 1: thing they do really well as self scouting, and they

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Speaker 1: the Niners are draftways that made a lot of savvy moves.

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Speaker 1: It is such an imperfect process that it's it's good

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Speaker 1: to see her. It's refreshing to see San Francisco just

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Speaker 1: basically say we're moving on. We're washing our hands of it.

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Speaker 1: You look perfect today, Mark, thank you. I've rested. I

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Speaker 1: slept till mid morning. Yeah, Chris Wesseling had the Mark

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Speaker 1: We learned that Alex Barron does not really like football.

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Speaker 1: The general manager of the St. Louis Rams just a

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Speaker 1: He played Holan Wolf and Cadillac Records, big big six

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Speaker 1: Mark has what I understand to be a prepared statement

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Speaker 1: It is my sincere belief the team will eclipse four

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and thirteen Browns to seven and nine.

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Speaker 1: As a Cleveland fan, since there have been some disappointments

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Speaker 1: logic tells me this is more than a four win team.

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Speaker 1: Seven wins are possible, and I don't believe the Browns

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Speaker 1: have before. End of statement. You're you're making this bold,

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Speaker 1: seven and nine. It will cover many sins if that happened.

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Speaker 1: the rest of the division makes sense. We're actually writing

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Speaker 1: you inevitate. We all did this exercise, you inevitably have

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Speaker 1: is in the books after tonight, Um, but through the weekend.

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Speaker 1: We covered the Thursday games in the last podcast. But

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Speaker 1: what did you guys take out of this weekend? And

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Speaker 1: we'll start with Greg. I think EJ. Manuel and Buffalo

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Speaker 1: it made me a little more excited to watch Manuel

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Speaker 1: flags behind him. He's got the cap strain that all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden became a back injury and into his legs.

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Speaker 1: His yards per carry is dwindling, his yards per catch,

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Speaker 1: just Crater last year, he's had heavy workloads. Uh, the

431
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Speaker 1: offensive line is kind of a mess. Now, this is

432
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Speaker 1: a offense that is based on the run in play action.

433
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Speaker 1: Please convince me that Texans can run the ball this year.

434
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Speaker 1: So you're not buying Michael Fabriano's number one overall ranking.

435
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 1: You have overheard Fats and not shotting back and forth

436
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,080
Speaker 1: about that for a couple of months. Now that you

437
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: can't take Arian Foster well over Peter and Fabriano's defense

438
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 1: that has since been modified after the calf strain turned

439
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Speaker 1: into the back injury. But yeah, there there's I think

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Speaker 1: that I would not if you want to talk fantasy,

441
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Speaker 1: I would not touch Arian Foster um with a first

442
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Speaker 1: round pick. Somebody else will won't be me. But from

443
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Speaker 1: a Texans standpoint, yeah, this guy was the engine of

444
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Speaker 1: this offense. And then if you look behind them, you

445
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Speaker 1: have Bentate who had injury issues last year, and then

446
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: there's really nothing else behind them, so they could be

447
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: in a very bad situation. On the right side of

448
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 1: their line is got question marks. For sure, and Dan

449
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 1: and I on our co owned fantasy football team, which

450
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 1: was last year named Jenna Fisher, this year will be yes.

451
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Speaker 1: We we fell more than once for beent Tate as

452
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Speaker 1: a later fantasy pick, and what I found so maddening

453
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Speaker 1: about him was that we would chronically sit him and

454
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Speaker 1: then he'd blow up and have one of his It

455
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: wasn't so much last year, but the year before. He'd

456
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Speaker 1: step in and blow up, and we'd start him the

457
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: next week thinking the same thing would happen, and he'd

458
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: go utterly go ship quiet. So I think that if

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Speaker 1: he had a more expanded role, which I think we're

460
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna see that they have to give him a bigger

461
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Speaker 1: rule this year. But he's even consistent, I just I

462
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Speaker 1: don't know. I think the Texans I share West's concern

463
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: on that front. The argument to be made with Foster

464
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Speaker 1: is that it's more about the system, and the system

465
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Speaker 1: wasn't very good last year. They weren't opening up holes.

466
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Speaker 1: But maybe they can rebound there and they'll find the

467
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Speaker 1: next Arian Foster, or they'll just let Wade Phillips in

468
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Speaker 1: that defense kind of carry the day like they did

469
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Speaker 1: last season, and you have cushion there who they're saying

470
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Speaker 1: is moving great. Uh you put him there with what

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Speaker 1: that that's ah Ed Reid ever gets back. I mean,

472
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Speaker 1: there's the guts of a really good defense potentially. And

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Speaker 1: I do buy that Arian Foster is a good back

474
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Speaker 1: or was a very good back two years ago. I

475
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Speaker 1: buy that it's a system, and I buy that Ben

476
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Speaker 1: taken rush for twelve yards if he's made the starter.

477
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 1: Arian Foster deleted his Twitter account, and that kind of

478
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Speaker 1: when the trouble started. When it's tided to bring back

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Speaker 1: Arian Foster's ponderous Twitter account, Um, I will let me

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Speaker 1: hit the jags. Um. Uh. You know, we talked a

481
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Speaker 1: little bit about blame Gabbert and you know they're gonna

482
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Speaker 1: sit him for the rest of the preseason. He has

483
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Speaker 1: the stumb injury or he hit the thumb on the helmet.

484
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Speaker 1: But they came out and they said he's going to

485
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Speaker 1: be the starter week one. Is this the right move?

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Speaker 1: There's nobody even wants to answer because it's a hard

487
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Speaker 1: one to answer. I'll I don't understand how two weeks

488
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: after he throws for nineteen yards and averages less than

489
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Speaker 1: two yards per attempt the Gaffert zone, the Gabert. Now,

490
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: like my Twitter page was one in agreement that Gabbert

491
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Speaker 1: should be the starter instead of Henny just because of

492
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Speaker 1: one good preseason game. I guess I am skeptical. I

493
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: think the team is skeptical, and I think that what

494
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Speaker 1: they're doing is, first of all, we're gonna see both

495
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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks this season. But you've got Gabbert and you've

496
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Speaker 1: got up GM that probably has already decided his where

497
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Speaker 1: he's going with what will be the top five pick

498
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: in April. I don't think there's any long term commitment

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Speaker 1: to Gabbert, so it almost doesn't matter. Why not give

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Speaker 1: him one more chance. I do think the one upside

501
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 1: is that he's been in He's in his third offense,

502
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: which is not good for him. But they're shaping that

503
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Speaker 1: offense from what I'm hearing, to kind of fit what

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00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: he did in college a little bit more, a little

505
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Speaker 1: bit more to his skills, which wasn't the case before.

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Speaker 1: But even what Malarkey and was it in the middle

507
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Speaker 1: of the summer, Malarkey, no longer with the Jaguar, said,

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Speaker 1: if I had to choose today, no way do I

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Speaker 1: start Gabber and I start Henny. Yeah, you know, jet

510
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: Fish is a first time offensive coordinator, so maybe he

511
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Speaker 1: brings some new ideas to the table. And you know,

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Speaker 1: you talked about the Jets defense not being ready for

513
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Speaker 1: the hurry up, But the flip side of that was

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, like you said, played to Gabbert strength. The

515
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Speaker 1: ball was coming out of his I mean, he is

516
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Speaker 1: not a good quarterback when he holds the ball too long.

517
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Speaker 1: So this is all three five step drops. It kind

518
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: of looked like he was at Missouri getting rid of

519
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: the ball short passes. I mean it was fine. That's

520
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: probably the best that they can do with him, and

521
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: maybe they'll be that sort of hurry up team and

522
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Speaker 1: make the best with what they have, Like we're searching

523
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Speaker 1: for positives. That's um, that's smart of them. That's what

524
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins did with Tannehill last year, and that's what

525
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: the Redskins really did with r G. Three quick decisions,

526
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Speaker 1: get the ball out fast, and they only have to

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Speaker 1: make one. Reef Malarkey seems like one of those old

528
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Speaker 1: school NFL coaches that he's got his system and he

529
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Speaker 1: he thinks there's a certain NFL way to do things,

530
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Speaker 1: and it wasn't gonna work with Blaine gab and he

531
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Speaker 1: was just trying to make it work. It wasn't gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: all right, Mark, alright, My question, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you asked, did you ask even ask a question there?

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Speaker 1: Did we just mention my question with the cults, because

535
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: what I hear over and over is, you know, oh,

536
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: they overachieved last year. They were on this sort of

537
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: uh spiritual ride. Everything went right, and there's no way

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Speaker 1: they go eleven and five again. So my question is,

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Speaker 1: if they aren't going to go eleven and five, if

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Speaker 1: we don't believe this, what's the number one reason they

541
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Speaker 1: can't get back to that record? Now? If you disagree

542
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Speaker 1: and you think they can, give me the reason they

543
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 1: can in I disagree, and it's because of schedule and luck,

544
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: not the quarterback luck, but randomness chance. I believe they

545
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Speaker 1: went on like a nine and two stretch last year

546
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Speaker 1: where they didn't beat a single team over five, and

547
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: most of the teams were well below they That stretch

548
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: was a who's who of the worst teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen again. And Andrew Luck, I believe,

550
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: broke the record with seven come from behind victories. That's

551
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Speaker 1: not gonna happen again. As much as I love Andrew

552
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Speaker 1: Luck and I think he's I've I've already written that

553
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Speaker 1: he's All of Famer and gotten killed for writing that,

554
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: but I totally believe in him. But I don't believe

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Speaker 1: the Coolts are going to be as lucky or faces

556
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Speaker 1: soft as a schedule I didn't. I don't think they're

557
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: gonna get that same level of luck, But I also

558
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Speaker 1: don't think they need it as much. I I think

559
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: this might be and we can get into it later

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Speaker 1: with the division record breakdown, this might be the worst

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Speaker 1: division in the league. And and I kind of can

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Speaker 1: see the Colts not necessarily being a powerhouse, but certainly

563
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Speaker 1: being good enough to get to ten or eleven wins

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Speaker 1: and be the division champion. Here. I think the argument

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Speaker 1: against the Colts are all the pieces on defense being

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Speaker 1: new that they're counting on. I mean, think about you know,

567
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Speaker 1: Laron Landry's there now, you know, maybe maybe he helps,

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Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't. You have guys starting like Drell Freeman,

569
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Speaker 1: you brought in Ricky Jean Francois, you bring in Greg Toler.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're just bringing in all these defensive players

571
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Speaker 1: that you know the defense really wasn't that good last year,

572
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Speaker 1: and it's a whole group that's full of question marks.

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Speaker 1: I think the argument for the Colts is just that

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is so good that it doesn't matter that

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Speaker 1: he is like Peyton Manning early in his career, who

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Speaker 1: was on some flawed Colts teams that would just get

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Speaker 1: them to the playoffs. Is Andrew Luck potentially gonna be

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Speaker 1: the level of quarterback where his team is just a

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Speaker 1: contender every year, it doesn't matter what's around him. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I look at them as an example of a team

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Speaker 1: that record won't be the same, but they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: a better football team than what they were a season ago.

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Speaker 1: And I actually think, you know, West just talked about

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Speaker 1: shaping an offensive round r G three or shaping We

585
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: talked about shaping one around Gabbett. I think Pep Hamilton's

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00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: actually a good uh switch for Luck because as as

587
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: much as I liked what arians did last season, I

588
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: think that was probably one of the reasons that Luck

589
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: had some of the interceptions he did and took some

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00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 1: of the hits he did. They have fixed that offensive

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00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: line to some degree, but I don't see them going

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Speaker 1: eleven and five Yeah, he's so fun to watch. Luck

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Speaker 1: to like last night against the Giants again, it's week

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Speaker 1: two of the preseason. I know it means a lot

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00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: to you. Mark does not mean as much to me,

596
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: but they he led that team on three straight scoring drives.

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00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: And just his ability he looks like a ten year

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00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: pro in the pocket. His ability to move around fuel pressure,

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00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: and he can move much better than he gets credit for.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I just think he's the total package.

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Speaker 1: And the team is not a perfect team, but he's

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Speaker 1: pretty close to a perfect quarterback to me, and I

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00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: think that's enough to make them a playoff team. For

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00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: that skill set. He might be the best quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the league already. I mean certainly in the top couple,

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00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: and I mean in terms of avoiding pressure and buying

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00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: time in the pocket. Oh, he's It's uncanny how savvy

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Speaker 1: he is in the pocket. Yeah. Okay, so let's now

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00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: we've gone We've gone through the four questions. Now let's

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Speaker 1: go records for each team, and we'll start with the

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Speaker 1: great Mark Sessler. All Right, I start up top with

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Speaker 1: the This is reluctant on my part, but I go

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Speaker 1: Texans eleven and five. Reluctant and then you give them

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Speaker 1: eleven wins. Yeah, I just I could see them taking

615
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: a disastrous turn. But eleven and five for the Texans,

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00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: Colts eight and eight, UH Titans six and ten, Jaguars

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Speaker 1: four and twelve. Al right, West, I have uh the

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Speaker 1: same exact thing for the first two teams. I have

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Speaker 1: Texans eleven and five called a vote for the defense

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00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: Colts eight and eight. I believe, as Mark said, they

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Speaker 1: can be a better team with a worse record, UH

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00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: Titans seven nine, Jaguars three and thirteen, util Andrew lucton

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, and they're they're not winning more

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00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: than eight games. They can't repeat the luck that they had.

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Speaker 1: Um Okay, I have the call. I I do think

626
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: luck and luck and luck will prevail and the Colts

627
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: will go eleven and five. They will win the division. Texans,

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00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: and a lot of this does have to goes into

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Speaker 1: some of my concerns about Foster and the depth. They're

630
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Speaker 1: they're gonna go eight and eight, They're gonna drop Titans.

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Speaker 1: They're not gonna pull together six and ten and Jags

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00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: three and thirteen. Um. I agree with Dan, He's right.

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Speaker 1: The Colts are going to win this division. And I

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Speaker 1: think Andrew LUCKX just gonna be that good. If you

635
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Speaker 1: if your quarterback is that good, I think you'll find

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Speaker 1: a way to win ten games. Plus this is a

637
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: bad division, so I think they can win a lot

638
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: of the games in the divisions. I have the Texans

639
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: falling out of the playoffs to nine and seven, although

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Speaker 1: I do want to say I'm more excited to watch J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt this season than I think I've been like excited

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Speaker 1: about watching any defensive player in any season, So that

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Speaker 1: should be fun. Titans at five and eleven, I just

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Speaker 1: don't think the defensive roster especially is very good at all.

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Speaker 1: And the Jaguars at three and thirteen battling the Oakland Raiders,

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Speaker 1: not to give anything away, but battling the Open Raiders

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Speaker 1: for the reveal. Yeah, um okay. So that that wraps

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Speaker 1: up another edition of the A t L Podcast. On Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: we will hit the A f C West. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people are excited about that, uh but a lot

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Speaker 1: of buzz and if anything happens tonight with the Steelers

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Speaker 1: and Skins, will touch on that and then any other news.

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Speaker 1: So until next time,