WEBVTT - Championship Week Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Solid Verbal I'll that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be happy for day Ado State? Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoo whoom? And Dan and Tye welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Solid Verbo boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand,

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<v Speaker 1>joining me over there in New York City, My man,

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<v Speaker 1>the one and only Dan Rubenstein. Sir, how are you? Ty?

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<v Speaker 2>I have a proposal, and I didn't run this by

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<v Speaker 2>you beforehand because I'm fifty percent owner of Solid Verbal

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<v Speaker 2>Media LLC.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, Yes, I believe that's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fifty percent, And so I would like to offer,

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily and I do have a Saturday nickname, but

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily that I want to. I want to propose

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<v Speaker 2>a general theme for a show this important, in which

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<v Speaker 2>we preview Championship weekend. Okay, my thematic proposal is cleanliness.

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<v Speaker 1>Cleanliness, cle Darryl Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>And you can probably already hear in my voice, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just got out of the shower, okay, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel great. And that's where I think, Tie, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I washed just not just my body.

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<v Speaker 1>But also my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure clans where I really yes, sure, And so that

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<v Speaker 2>to me is going to be at least my half

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<v Speaker 2>of the show in terms of theme cleanliness, what are

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<v Speaker 2>teams doing, what are teams not doing? And I just

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<v Speaker 2>for a show this special, I feel like we have

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<v Speaker 2>to really focus on where we want to go. And

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<v Speaker 2>I also do have a Saturday nickname proposal, but we

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<v Speaker 2>can get into that in a moment. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to put that into your mind and into listeners'

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<v Speaker 2>minds right off the top, because also, it's a December

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<v Speaker 2>to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Tie, It's always a December to remember. Very soothing to

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<v Speaker 1>play that background track here as we get into the

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<v Speaker 1>month of December. Now, of course we're talking about all

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<v Speaker 1>things Conference championships. Yeah, yeah, that's what we got going

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<v Speaker 1>on this weekend. We've got ten of them that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to go through, some a little bit more deeply

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<v Speaker 1>than others. But a last we've got Power five Games.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a group of five games. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>coming back to the show, for downloading, and for embarking

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<v Speaker 1>on this one final weekly preview show for the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen season. Can you believe it? Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 2>So the final one this season actually flew by some

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<v Speaker 2>seasons crawl. This one was a flyer, and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a bummer to me because we had some

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<v Speaker 2>really fun weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>We had some really fun weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>And now ahead of what shampoo Saturday, she watched away

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<v Speaker 2>the Pretenders.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's not where I'm going with it. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for downloading, Thank you for subscribing if you haven't already.

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<v Speaker 1>As we said time and again, we will be with

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<v Speaker 1>you all throughout the calendar, even if football is not

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<v Speaker 1>in season, So hit the subscribe button on whatever podcasting

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<v Speaker 1>our old stuff as you are watching the conference championship

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<v Speaker 1>games this weekend. One final time for the Reverb line

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<v Speaker 1>this year, maybe we'll open up for the national championship.

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<v Speaker 1>But four oh eight Verbal one. It's four oh eight

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where people weigh in on college football topics, on

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<v Speaker 1>Did I get that address? Correct? You got it? You

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<v Speaker 1>got nice? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think he nailed everything, and we should probably

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<v Speaker 2>start talking about branding the weekend, start talking about our thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you wanted to break down you specifically earmarked

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<v Speaker 2>your UAB linebacker depth thoughts.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready for everything. Well, let's start here. Okay. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to yell breaking news in that high pitched

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<v Speaker 1>tone that I normally do because say it in German

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<v Speaker 1>if you mean it, I'm not going to go there

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<v Speaker 1>because I want to try and preserve these pipes. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited for the show. If it is our final weekly

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<v Speaker 1>preview show of the calendar year, I need to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it for the full sixty minutes. That is true. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start here. Clay Helton reportedly, according to our friend Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Felman from The Athletic in Fox Sports, he will be retained.

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<v Speaker 1>He is staying at USC, which comes, as I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of a surprise, you know, eight and four.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the final tality for USC. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>before the sea in that nine wins maybe was the cutoff.

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems to be a situation, if I have

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<v Speaker 1>read the tea leaves correctly, where USC was looking around,

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<v Speaker 1>they were setting their sites very high on Urban Meyer,

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<v Speaker 1>on guys like Bob Stoops. Clearly, if they could have

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<v Speaker 1>gotten one of those guys, Clayhelton would no longer be

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<v Speaker 1>the coach. But it seems as if the top rung

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<v Speaker 1>guys that they may have pursued were not available, slash,

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<v Speaker 1>not interested, and rather than make a change and go

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<v Speaker 1>to someone else that they were unsure of, they decided

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<v Speaker 1>that they would stick with Clay Hilton.

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<v Speaker 2>Right when So who knows because nothing official has come

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<v Speaker 2>out that is, I mean, what the quote is that

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce said was what that they're leaning or that's he's

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<v Speaker 2>reportedly that's going in that direction. So there's nothing absolute.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no release from USC. Which is also a weird

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<v Speaker 2>thing to release. Right, You're like, yeah, so our coach

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<v Speaker 2>is still the coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like when they pick a pope and nope,

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<v Speaker 1>they're still in conclave, right exactly. So there is no thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess an official from the school. And there was

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<v Speaker 1>rumors of, you know, the always fun coaching search season

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<v Speaker 1>emergency meeting. We are going to be monitoring at least

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<v Speaker 1>during this show. Oh yes, perfect, whether or not there

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<v Speaker 1>is an actual emergency meeting and what comes of it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're obviously a lot of things to go around, blame

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<v Speaker 1>wise with USC in terms of recruiting has fallen off.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not great. Attendance has fallen off, defense at times

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<v Speaker 1>has fallen off in big games. They have aspirations of

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<v Speaker 1>being a double digit win team year in and year out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's pretty reasonable. I you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what can be done in terms off It's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a money thing, is why they're retaining Clay Helton.

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<v Speaker 1>The continuity thing, a maturity at the top thing, which

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<v Speaker 1>they haven't always had. I get all of those reasons,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you can't find a guy who you definitely

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<v Speaker 1>think is better, it's a tough spot. I don't envy

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<v Speaker 1>the USC administration, and I certainly don't envy and I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely relate to frustrated USC fans who think that should

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<v Speaker 1>be rooting for a better team. So tough situation. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who they can get if they do move

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<v Speaker 1>on from Helton. But in like, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you fire Clancy Pendergast and try to start over there,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you retain Graham Harrell if Texas

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<v Speaker 1>is coming hard after him and he's from the state.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a pretty topsy turvy situation. And I tweeted

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<v Speaker 1>this last night. I just love USC coaching mill rumor season.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it's delightful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great because there are so many there's so much

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<v Speaker 2>misinformation out there, but I just I like bathing in

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<v Speaker 2>all of it as a college football fan. So hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>everything gets squared away to everybody's liking eventually, because USC

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<v Speaker 2>being good tends to be good for the sport. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing absolute at the time, we're recording.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing. At time of recording, this show drops six am

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Time on Thursday morning, which means by about ten

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<v Speaker 1>thirty we're gonna find out that he got fired. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>h of course that's okay, because we'll do a show

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about our thoughts about you know, why they

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<v Speaker 1>moved on and what we think Jack del Rio can

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<v Speaker 1>do in LA Also exactly pertinent response type topic. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you get any updates on that super secret emergency meeting, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll break in and we'll we'll play a real talk

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<v Speaker 1>sound okay, okay? Yes. Elsewhere, the recently fired Willly Taggart

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<v Speaker 1>is apparently mixing it up with USF, a former suitor.

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<v Speaker 1>The quote here that I've got on my sheet is

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned representatives of USF have been in contact with

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<v Speaker 1>former Bulls coach Willy Taggart regarding his old job. Taggart

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<v Speaker 1>badly wants a second act in Tampa, willing to commit

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<v Speaker 1>in writing that he's in it for the long haul.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the Tampa Bay Times deserves the credit

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<v Speaker 2>for that report, and I suppose it makes sense. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>coming home is the best move after all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, you can set your way to

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<v Speaker 2>the tweet welcome home, oh coach reader, the Greg Shanna,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome home to Rutgers, Welcome home Mac Brown, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>I made that joke on the Fantasy Thing show Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Frost right, Welcome Home. The Welcome Home Thing is a

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<v Speaker 1>personal favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Willie Taggart certainly had USF peaking as a double digit

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<v Speaker 2>win team before he left for Oregon, so perhaps it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense and he would just be happy to have

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<v Speaker 2>a head coaching job at least in a pretty big conference.

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<v Speaker 2>So good for there. Willie Fritz another Willy and head

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<v Speaker 2>coaching rumors speaking with both Arkansas and MISSOO about their openings.

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw Mike Bobo. They were very careful about

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<v Speaker 2>the way they described it was a mutual separation, like

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<v Speaker 2>the Gwyneth Paltrow Chris Martin well conscious decoupling. That was

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<v Speaker 2>a conscious So Mike Bobo and Colorado State have consciously decoupled,

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<v Speaker 2>and so Colorado State will now be in the market,

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<v Speaker 2>joining UNLV in the in the Mountain West. We've had

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<v Speaker 2>some draft declarations. TI, Oh, it's that season and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you have Mike Bobo thoughts. I apologize

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<v Speaker 2>for skimming over that.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>No, ygm very terrifically talented pass rusher for Penn State.

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<v Speaker 2>Isaiah Hodgens Oregon State receiver JJ Taylor at Arizona. This small, little,

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<v Speaker 2>very quick back Leavis.

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<v Speaker 1>Skty let me Scottiska for Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>The crazy talented receiver, Anthony McFarland, Jalen Reger, and Big

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<v Speaker 2>albert O are the headliners at the time we're recording this.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have any thoughts about any of those early

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<v Speaker 2>declarations and if any of them are dramatic losses for

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<v Speaker 2>those teams?

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<v Speaker 1>And we have confirmed that Anthony McFarlane is not Booger's son,

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<v Speaker 1>correct confirmed confirmed confirmed? Okay, No, I mean I figured ye,

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<v Speaker 1>Tor gross Matos would go pro for Penn State, and

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<v Speaker 1>Laviskus Channault figures to be a first round talent. Real

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<v Speaker 1>curious to see about a guy like Jalen Reger mm HM,

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<v Speaker 1>who we've been really high on. And Anthony McFarland. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he bursts onto the scene and has I think been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good in his short time Maryland. So curious to

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<v Speaker 1>see what the next level may have in store for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Ran all over Ohio State last year and then otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>Felipe Franks I think we talked about maybe we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>is exploring his options both in the transfer portal and

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<v Speaker 2>his draft options.

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<v Speaker 1>I think does he have draft options you think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's It appears to be a pretty good draft year

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<v Speaker 2>for quarterbacks, so I don't know if it looks great

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<v Speaker 2>in that arena. Also, Jake Bentley staying in the SEC East.

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<v Speaker 2>He has declared his intention at least has entered the

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<v Speaker 2>transfer portals. He's looking around to see what's out there

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of quarterback needs. I don't know if there's

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<v Speaker 2>any other administrative things to hit on. I'm monitoring the

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<v Speaker 2>Clay Helton Twitter search. Nothing's really popping up at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I got the soundarady, let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing right now, a fake Missoo account is tweeting

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to know what the fake Mizoo coach?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the redditsb Twitter account fell for it. So

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<v Speaker 2>Miszoo Football probably with eyes for L's Jim McLane is

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<v Speaker 2>the fake thirty third head coach at Miszoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Got to click the links, people, You gotta click

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<v Speaker 1>the links. All right, Well, that's it, keep us posting

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on out there in the Twitter sphere. Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get the games, Damne. It is conference championship week.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a bunch of games here that we want

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<v Speaker 1>to get through. Have you given much thought to how

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<v Speaker 1>we are branding our final Saturday court. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this or do you want to do a

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<v Speaker 1>window of Opportunity first? I want to do this because

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<v Speaker 1>I need more time to think about the week opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So obviously, if I'm going with a theme of cleanliness,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's both of cleanliness of body, of mind

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<v Speaker 2>of attitude, which I guess fits in with mind. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably going to offend people by saying that, because clely,

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<v Speaker 2>this of mind is a kind of a loaded phrasing. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but there is a chemical tie that your nerve cells

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<v Speaker 2>produce that regulates so much in your body. And whyline

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<v Speaker 2>dot com lie to me, this is magic school bus

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<v Speaker 2>going inside the body. Right here we are We absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>are so just in talking about reducing depression, regulating anxiety,

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<v Speaker 2>healing wounds, stimulating nausea, Serotonin Saturday sarahtone in Saturday Tie

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<v Speaker 2>maintains your bone health. I'm talking about people getting good

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<v Speaker 2>night's sleep. Serotonin affects that diet. Serotonin affects that libido.

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<v Speaker 2>How aroused are you to run that extra yard tie

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<v Speaker 2>push forward?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? See, people take don't people take serotonin to go

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep. I think you're thinking of melody. Oh that's melatonin, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>melot yes, correctly, yeah, Okay. It can help in your

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<v Speaker 1>your deuces tie, it can help with your sleep, your

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<v Speaker 1>blood clotting, your bone health. Because everything needs to come together.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm even talking about for Clemson, who is what

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty eight point favorite? You know, I still think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a certain part of Clemson that if

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to separate themselves from I think we can agree.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty decent Virginia team. Sure, it's all got to come together.

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<v Speaker 2>And if everything's coming together, you gotta have saratonin at

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<v Speaker 2>the wheel.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a sponsor, not a sponsor. No, I have that

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<v Speaker 1>your nerve cells produced, not a sponsor. I have Savor

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<v Speaker 1>the flavor Saturday. Okay. Being so it's our final Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty good after this. I mean, you have

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl games, you'll playoffs and all that, but it sort

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<v Speaker 1>of won't be the same for a full eight or

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<v Speaker 1>nine months. I've got shock Me Saturday, Oh, which is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not trying to be like sadistic here,

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<v Speaker 1>but shock Me Saturday. I'm looking at these games and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure out, Okay, are there any shockers

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<v Speaker 1>out there? Are there any games? As a college football fan,

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<v Speaker 1>as someone who has long been a proponent of as

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<v Speaker 1>much chaos as possible, I need that. I need that shocker.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see any game, and I'm including every single

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<v Speaker 2>FBS conference. Do you see any game in which there

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<v Speaker 2>is a spread of five or fewer points? No, Chicago

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<v Speaker 2>Chain super Dog Saturday, because we could lean into the

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<v Speaker 2>yakos and just give regional hot dog places shout outs

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<v Speaker 2>super Dog Saturday. Super Dog is not the superdog. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna roll with Serotonin Saturday. You can do what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>The only other one that I had here was Selena Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's because I sent you with Selena Gomez YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>clip before we connect it up here. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that one really applies in the way of

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<v Speaker 1>shock me Saturday. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, again, I want to clarify because I am a

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<v Speaker 2>very stupid person. Serotonin, uh is a good thing, it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I say cleanless cleanliness of mind, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a little off in your mind, that's cool, doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>you're unclean. I just am reading from healthline dot.

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<v Speaker 1>Com, all right, fair enough important disclaimer. Thank you, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for getting that in there. Yeah, window of

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity last one before the whole damn thing is a

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<v Speaker 1>window of opportunity. Yes, I don't really know how I

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<v Speaker 1>feel about this. I am looking at some of these

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<v Speaker 1>games here, and I'm feeling an awful lot like the

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<v Speaker 1>weakest link is probably the Virginia Clemson game. The problem

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<v Speaker 1>is that that's at the same time as Ohio State Wisconsin. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>there is no window. I don't know if there's a window.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see a damn window. This is a cheap

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<v Speaker 2>New York apartment that you're going to have to hang

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<v Speaker 2>up one of those fake skylight things to make it

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<v Speaker 2>seem like you're not going insane.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know there's a window here. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>the window is the wall. And again listen after this.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole damn thing is a window of opportunity. Go

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<v Speaker 1>see cats. You can actually go see cats again.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you heard knives Out? I've heard amazing things about

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<v Speaker 2>knives Out. No, I'm gonna go see that, I hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Go see whatever you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but give yourself this Saturday, even this Friday, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're really into it. No, window of opportunity this week,

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready to dive in here. Well, if you're if

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<v Speaker 1>you're on the West coast, you got what a five

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<v Speaker 1>pm kick? Yeah? Sure, still, you got late dinner. You're

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<v Speaker 1>good to go. The Doctor Pepper Big twelve Championship game.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be doing the tuition throw here. There're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be multiple tuition throws this weeks past. Kids, we will

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<v Speaker 1>be doing a full breakdown on the Sunday Show. I

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<v Speaker 1>have recommitted myself to the tuition throw controversy. This one

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<v Speaker 1>is at high noon on Saturday. It's on ABC. It

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<v Speaker 1>is eleven and one Bailer. It is eleven and one Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>The Sooners are an eight point favorite. You may recall

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<v Speaker 1>this is a rematch from about three weeks ago. That

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<v Speaker 1>was the game Bayler probably should have could have maybe

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<v Speaker 1>won after a really start. Also the same game where

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma came all the way back and won thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty one in Waco, a real heartbreaker for the

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<v Speaker 1>Baylor Bears. So this is a real opportunity for Baylor

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<v Speaker 1>to get that sweet redemption if they won it, and

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<v Speaker 1>for both teams. Of course, there are playoff implications. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they both need some help, but it's certainly on

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<v Speaker 1>the table for both, is it not? Absolutely? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we can talk about the latest rankings, I suppose I'd

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<v Speaker 1>rather just talk about these games. Yes, an enormous game.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually pretty excited by this game. And one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we've talked about is how many points

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<v Speaker 1>will it take to beat blank Sure we know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how many points it takes for Baylor to beat Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five? How many did they give up last time

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<v Speaker 1>at home? Thirty four?

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<v Speaker 2>Takes thirty five to beat Oklahoma, especially now on a

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<v Speaker 2>neutral side field at Jerry World. And Oklahoma, for their

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<v Speaker 2>part this year, they've really done a good job improving

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<v Speaker 2>their past defense, and I guess they probably should have

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<v Speaker 2>considering this year's crop of big twelve quarterbacks as a whole.

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<v Speaker 2>And it seems like the Sooners should win if they're

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<v Speaker 2>able to keep it what's the theme clean, If they

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<v Speaker 2>are able to avoid turnovers and play relatively disciplined, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be very difficult for Baylor to score thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five points, even in a revenge spot.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll probably need to run.

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<v Speaker 2>The ball pretty successfully, much better than they did in

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<v Speaker 2>the second half the first time they played, Probably get

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<v Speaker 2>some turnover luck. And here's the thing. If it takes

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five to beat the Sooners, how many times you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have this at the top of your head. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>did Baylor score thirty five against a pretty decent Big

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<v Speaker 2>twelve team? The answer is once, Yeah, they scored it

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<v Speaker 2>against Oklahoma State, and that's not how they beat teams.

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<v Speaker 2>And the defense has been a luxury and that they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't needed to score a ton of points. But man

0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:56.199
<v Speaker 2>Lincoln Riley offense, even with the topsy turfiness. That's today's

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<v Speaker 2>phrase of Jalen Hurts. I have it thirty to twenty

0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.800
<v Speaker 2>seven Oklahomas. I'm gonna take take the points there. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Baylor covers the defense is too good to be

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<v Speaker 2>separated from, but I think the Sooners take it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right to mention some of the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>improvements that Oklahoma's made. But have you noticed we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really talked much about Alex Grinch since late October? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and this defense hasn't played as well since that case

0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:27.240
<v Speaker 1>State lost In the last few games, they've gotten their

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<v Speaker 1>act back together here, but well, they didn't play that

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<v Speaker 1>well against kse State. Well they certainly didn't play that

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<v Speaker 1>well against k State, but there have been moments here

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<v Speaker 1>that have caused me to question the I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>validity of that defense, let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, but if you can hang around and you're not

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<v Speaker 2>forced to throw from behind, right, you can sure really

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<v Speaker 2>interesting things on the ground against Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a path. There's absolutely a path. My point here

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<v Speaker 1>with the defense is, I don't know if that's an

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<v Speaker 1>issue here. Even if they should have lost that first game,

0:20:57.000 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 1>they did come back and win, and the defense came

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<v Speaker 1>up big in the second half half of that game.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just kind of a maybe a factoid that

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<v Speaker 1>would only interest Tom Hammond, but something that I've been

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention to over the last couple of weeks. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think Oklahoma is a better team here. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think that eight's a lot of points. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say Baylor plus eight maybe something like thirty eight thirty

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<v Speaker 1>one Oklahoma. The concern, man, is Thatler's defense giving up

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<v Speaker 1>nearly forty. They gave up field, they gave up thirty four.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they gave up three what in in the

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<v Speaker 1>first half, they gave up thirty four counts. I know

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<v Speaker 1>they did that. The concern here though, from a point

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:42.000
<v Speaker 1>spread standpoint, is especially if you're betting Baylor plus eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever wins this game has to try and do it

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<v Speaker 1>with as many style points as possible correct, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that makes for a lot of front door cover potential.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sorry, doggies. Also, it should be noted that in

0:21:55.520 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 2>that first game, as this is to your point, Ceedee,

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<v Speaker 2>Lamb didn't play for Oklahoma.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he did. It seems like a difference maker. I

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<v Speaker 1>would agree with that. I would agree with that, So

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<v Speaker 1>we agree. Yeah, I think there's a lot we agree

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<v Speaker 1>on here. I'm also going to take those points. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on the fence though. I'm on the fence, and it

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<v Speaker 1>does feel like the kind of game where Oklahoma could

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<v Speaker 1>get up and try to run away with it and

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<v Speaker 1>try to lay it on as thick as they can.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right and throw chess passes. Kids get money,

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<v Speaker 2>however you can. College is expensive. Don't listen to Tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Tie would throw chess passes if put in that opportunity

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:30.920
<v Speaker 2>he needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Cash, he probably would wouldn't I of course, if it's quicker,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably would. I don't like you're watching it, but

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm in that situation, and I could win.

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<v Speaker 2>It if any of Tye, if any of your if

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<v Speaker 2>any of your three kids were on the field and

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<v Speaker 2>not throwing a chess pass ended up costing.

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<v Speaker 1>You an extra hundred grand. Sure have you talked about

0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.359
<v Speaker 1>your kids on the show yet? No? Not yet. Okay,

0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:55.159
<v Speaker 1>you would kind of be furious. I would have a

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.120
<v Speaker 1>hard time with that. Yeah, yeah, no, Okay, the rent

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<v Speaker 1>would go up. Okay, I'm glad we agree on everything. Now.

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:04.359
<v Speaker 1>SEC Championship game. This one's at four pm on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's on CBS. It's eleven and one Georgia, It's twelve

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 1>and o LSU. The Bayou Bengals are a seven and

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:18.240
<v Speaker 1>one half point favorite. They didn't play during the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>They played this one in Atlanta, so it's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a home game for the George Bulldogs. Would you agree

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<v Speaker 1>that this game is our best chance for an upset

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<v Speaker 1>this weekend? Yeah?

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean upset in quotes, right. It's number It's two

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:37.800
<v Speaker 2>top four teams playing. I don't know what they'll end

0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 2>up after the fact, but yeah, I suppose Georgia in

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Atlanta in a dome. I mean's fast track for LSU

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 2>has a very good shot at winning this game. But

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:56.400
<v Speaker 2>they're a touchdown dog here there, a dog is a dog. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think this is the best chance for upset.

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<v Speaker 2>I took a while with this one. It was at

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<v Speaker 2>what seven and a half eight points? It came down

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<v Speaker 2>to seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have this as a push to you. Really. Yeah.

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:07.159
<v Speaker 2>What I do a lot of the time is I

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:08.560
<v Speaker 2>don't look at the spread and I just think about

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.560
<v Speaker 2>what I think the final score will be. If I

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.120
<v Speaker 2>had to go one direction or the other, I think

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I would probably take Georgia to cover this, But I

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 2>have LSU winning either way. Their offense, as we've seen

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:23.119
<v Speaker 2>all year, incredible, amazing. I think the biggest concern with

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 2>the Tigers from time to time has been their run defense,

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:29.479
<v Speaker 2>especially if we're comparing it to what the Georgia offense

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 2>can or can't do down I guess a receiver and

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 2>a half since George Pickens is suspended for the first half.

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Not a lot of firepower from Georgia in the passing game,

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 2>at least creatively, there isn't. LSU's defense has played pretty

0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 2>well against the run. They did a decent enough job

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 2>against Alabama. We saw them completely hold down Texas A

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.159
<v Speaker 2>and m and it was all missed running a different

0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:54.520
<v Speaker 2>style offense that really succeeded, and Georgia won't be running

0:24:54.680 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 2>that style. So if we're really going to reduce it,

0:24:58.080 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 2>it's stopped DeAndre Swift. A beat up DeAndre Swift and win.

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:06.159
<v Speaker 2>But that's easier said than done, ty. So on the

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Georgia side, to me, their defense is clearly great with

0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 2>the caveat The best quarterback they've played is almost assuredly

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:18.919
<v Speaker 2>Kyle Trask, right, definitely, and they did a pretty good

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 2>job against him. But they really haven't been tested by

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 2>a top flight quarterback, so we really don't know how

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.960
<v Speaker 2>they respond in the face of a killer offense. So

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I guess you got to score thirty to beat LSU,

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:30.960
<v Speaker 2>and that seems like a lot for this Georgia team,

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.240
<v Speaker 2>which hasn't really gotten there against good teams. So I

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>originally twenty seven to twenty, I guess I can make

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 2>a twenty seven to twenty one Tigers very cleanly get

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:40.920
<v Speaker 2>into the playoff.

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I am also taking the points here. George is really

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 1>good against the pass. I don't think they're outright stopping

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow because no one's done that, right, But can

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.920
<v Speaker 1>they curtail him. Yeah, I think they can, Oh my gosh, yeah,

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>of course. And because they are so shorthanded out wide,

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't surprise me at all if they just try

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.159
<v Speaker 1>to run clock and they take the air out of

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the ball. They play that ugly sec man ball that

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 1>we came to love or hate at Alabama over the years.

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>But it's kind of their style, you know, in SEC

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 1>play this year, their first in time of possession. It

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 1>does sound like, thankfully DeAndre Swift is okay and he's

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna play here. We already talked about it being sort

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of a home game in Atlanta. I just it feels

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>to me like there's a lot to like about Georgia here.

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I too, am very concerned about offensive firepower. That's been

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 1>a recurring theme so far this year. And I certainly

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>don't think that they can win in a shootout with LSU.

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 1>But can they muddy it up? Has Georgia played in

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>a shootout this year? I don't know. I don't think

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 1>they have. Can Georgia muddy it up? Can they make

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>it an ugly game? I think they can? And I'm

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>getting a little nuts here, but I've Georgia twenty eight

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:01.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, okay, And have you softened it all on your

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 2>thoughts of LSU being in. No matter what happens in

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 2>this game, this game means nothing. LSU might as well

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>start their third stringers. Have I thought more about it? Yeah,

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean we had this discussion. I sort of put

0:27:19.040 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 2>you on the spots. Sometimes you need a little bit

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 2>more time to meditate on things and maybe change your position.

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I certainly can. If it's twenty eight twenty seven, I

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:26.640
<v Speaker 1>think they get in.

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 2>If it's twenty eight twenty seven, LSU, it does not

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 2>matter what happens in this game, they're in.

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Agree.

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>And if Oklahoma just blows the doors off of a

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.439
<v Speaker 2>really good Baylor team doesn't matter to you.

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:45.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean it matters to me. I don't want to

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>go make it. I mean it doesn't matter to you.

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.360
<v Speaker 1>In terms of LSU's positioning in this I think LSU

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:54.520
<v Speaker 1>teams in because at that point, Dan, at that point,

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>when you are comparing teams, you're comparing the body of

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>work over the full year.

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.919
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, it's very difficult to compare bodies of work.

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 2>It's it's also like how they win. You know what

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>the actual scenario is. When I think it's important.

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:09.840
<v Speaker 1>But if it's one v one v one, if we're

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about LSU against Utah against Oklahoma, I'm taking LSU

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>la losing to Georgia. I'm taking ls's loss to Georgia

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.640
<v Speaker 1>over Utah's loss over Oklahoma's loss.

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that renders the game meaningless then it would.

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.439
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not just I can't get behind a college

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>football even if that's a reality in which I live

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 2>and you live and everybody listening to this lives. I'm

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:36.119
<v Speaker 2>just not going to say I'm on board with it

0:28:36.640 --> 0:28:39.480
<v Speaker 2>fair I am. I am completely out, and I would

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>put either one of the conference champions, not necessarily because

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 2>they're conference champions, but because they won. Right now as

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 2>a fully formed team, we have what twelve data points

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 2>on all of these teams, and LSU has an opportunity

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>to beat a playoff team and firmly establish themselves as

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>a top four team, and they lose on a neutral field.

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why that earns them a do over,

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 2>and we don't get to see if Oklahoma or Utah

0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 2>is able to beat Georgia. I'm not I'm out on it.

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>It's two different trains of thought for sure, we could

0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>do a full podcast on this, but I think we

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 1>are in agreement that we're both taking the points. Though,

0:29:13.040 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>yes we agree. As far as I can tell, no

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Georgia game would qualify as a shootout, and that's good

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:24.720
<v Speaker 1>credit much credit to their defense. The ACC Championship game

0:29:25.320 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 1>play this one in Charlotte. It is seven point thirty

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Saturday evening on ABC. It is the nine to three

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Virginia Cavaliers. It is the twelve and zero Clemson Tigers.

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>The points spread here is a meaty twenty eight and

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>a half points, obviously in favor of your defending national champions.

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>These two teams last played back in twenty thirteen during

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>the ballyhooed Mike London era. Dan Sure, Clemson won that

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>game fifty nine to ten. Okay, So to say that

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a bit of a revenge spot for or Virginia

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>might be a bit of a stretch, but isn't entirely off.

0:30:04.960 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I struggled with what I want to say about this game. Oh,

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>keep it clean, tie, that's the theme. They're kids listening.

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I have a hard time breaking this one down because

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>it feels like so much of a foregone conclusion. I

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:23.320
<v Speaker 1>really like Bryce Perkins, he's certainly not good enough to

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.320
<v Speaker 1>do it on his own against the really good Clemson defense.

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I like the UVA defense, but not enough to really

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>hold down Trevor Lawrence and all the weapons that he has.

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>On the Clemson side, they are clearly the better football team.

0:30:39.160 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 1>M UVA is. I guess you could argue legitimately the

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>second best team that they've played all year. So maybe

0:30:47.880 --> 0:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>there's something there. But I really struggled with trying to

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>put together like why Sam Clemson played I guess Texas

0:30:56.160 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>A and m Okay, I'm just curious. I really struggled

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 1>with thoughtful commentary that could actually advance to discussion on

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the a SEC Championship game.

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, first of all, I think North Carolina probably

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>is because they got within one, and that automatically does

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>it for me. Before I talk about this game and

0:31:18.760 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 2>address all of those comments, can you play the breaking

0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 2>news sound?

0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:28.320
<v Speaker 1>I can. Don't tell me Clay Hilton got fired because

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 1>this will already be news to everybody listening. It's for

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 1>you and me. Mike Bone, USC athletic director verified account

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>just tweeted out, I'm pleased to let you know Coach

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Helton will continue to be our head coach. Yes, we

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>got one right. His commitment to our student athletes and

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.960
<v Speaker 1>to leading with integrity. Oh interesting? Interesting? What is he

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>saying with that.

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Is vital to restoring our championship program, which is the

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.480
<v Speaker 2>goal for all of our teams. So far, it has

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>two hundred and seven retweets and eight hundred plus replies,

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<v Speaker 2>So Mike Bon's getting ratio a ratio situation. We'll see

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 2>what happens with the assistant situation and how they perhaps

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 2>will attempt to improve and add to and adjust and

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 2>tweak and overhaul the USC program under Clay Helton.

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 1>I understand the move, it is still somewhat surprising.

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, the ACC Championship game. So you're right, it

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 2>is very hard to figure out how this is a

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 2>competitive game for as good as Bryce Perkins as a

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 2>do everything talent, and he's probably the best do everything

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:37.160
<v Speaker 2>quarterback Clemson will face this year. Sam Howell might be

0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 2>the best thrower, but in terms of somebody who can

0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:43.600
<v Speaker 2>take over a game, that's Bryce Perkins. Unfortunately, I think

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 2>he is really good at times and okay other times,

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 2>and his ceiling is just not what somebody like Johnny

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Manzel or Cam Newton or somebody like that who can

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 2>just be an all purpose quarterback and take over a

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 2>game in a huge spot against a very good team.

0:32:58.760 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 2>So if Virginia is going to hang around, if they're

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:05.960
<v Speaker 2>going to make this a game, it's gonna take Bryce Perkins.

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 2>It's going to take probably a pick six, It's probably

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>gonna take a kick return for a touchdown.

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Luckily, they might have the best kick returner in the country. Hi,

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Joe Reid, Hi, nice to see you. The problem is

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 1>away from from Whoville, Array, away from Charlottesville. Bryce Perkins

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>sort of takes a dip away from home, and it's

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>not far to Charlotte. But this Clemson defense is just absurd,

0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>especially against the pass, especially throwing the ball, and Virginia's

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>beat up in their secondary. So I would expect success

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 1>both deep and turning small passes into big passes for Clemson.

0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't see the spread before I.

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Came up with the score. I have it thirty five

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 2>to ten Clemson, So I guess Virginia covers Array.

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 1>It feels like a lot of points, doesn't it. It does,

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:54.720
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't feel like many points.

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And also, and I don't know how much I

0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:00.479
<v Speaker 2>believe this, But if this is the cliched conventional, Clemson

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want to put too much on film ahead of

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 2>a potential playoff matchup, so you could see them not

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 2>wanting to get somebody hurt. If they're way ahead in

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 2>this game'd be great if it were competitive late, but

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:13.839
<v Speaker 2>I think the breaks will be on, especially in light

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 2>of Dabbo.

0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Saying how good the ACC is. Right, there's that. Yeah.

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean the one game that keeps bouncing around in

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>my mind is Clemson losing to Miami seventeen to nine

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>or something like they didn't even score. I mean Virginia

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>losing Virginia Sorry, yeah, Virginia losing on the road at

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 1>Miami seventeen to nine. Yeah, that was the final score.

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:42.279
<v Speaker 1>They look really bad in that game. And I just

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know what happens when you go up against clearly

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the best defense you've faced all year. Right, So I

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's right on that number. I think it's something

0:34:53.760 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 1>like forty nine to ten, forty nine to seventeen, somewhere

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:02.760
<v Speaker 1>in that range.

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So first, how many points does Virginia need to score?

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Just what is their final score? Where if you just

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 2>saw it on ESPN's bottom line, you'd be like, oh wow,

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 2>good for you Virginia.

0:35:13.719 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 1>In terms of total points. Yeah yeah, if they got

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>to twenty eight. Yeah, that's exactly what I had in

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>my mind. Twenty eight would impress me.

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and what percentage? What are your odds? Just from

0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 2>a zero to one hundred?

0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>That?

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>Uh, this is you know, Virginia can do all of

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 2>those things. Cleanliness is the theme. They can keep it.

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.640
<v Speaker 2>They can keep it clean. No turnovers, no, no big mistakes,

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 2>no crazy penalties. And get that kick return, get that

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 2>pick six, get that ten percent crazy field position.

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have it like seven and a half percent,

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 1>ten percent. Okay, yeah, I man, that's a lot of

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.759
<v Speaker 1>points though it is. I'm taking points. I'm changing for

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 1>Dogs Saturday, Super Dog Saturday. Where's my sound hold on?

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:06.959
<v Speaker 1>Where is it? Let's play it the Yokos home dog

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>of the week.

0:36:08.440 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Now not home, but it's hot dog related neutral site. Also,

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I should mention for any of these cities if you're

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 2>going to the general North Texas Dallas area, if you're

0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:20.239
<v Speaker 2>staying in Dallas for this game, if you're a Baylor fan,

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>if you're a I mean, it's not that long of

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<v Speaker 2>a drive from Waco and surrounding areas. But cow Noodles

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 2>not cow Khao. Maybe it's co Noodles in the Dallas

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<v Speaker 2>area is my recommendation for Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'd recommend in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh maybe uh Be's Cracklin Barbecue b Apostrophe es uh.

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 2>In Charlotte, I've always recommended Fudo Buddha for ramen Futo

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:50.240
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0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 2>I went and was I was delicious, And now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>On Dan Before we move on oh, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Sounds great. Let's move on to the Big Ten Championship game.

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.040
<v Speaker 1>This one is also on Saturday night at eight pm.

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 1>It is on the Fox Network. It is Ohio State

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>at twelve and oh It is Wisconsin at ten and two.

0:38:31.360 --> 0:38:35.839
<v Speaker 1>And this one also is a meaty seventeen point Spreaddan.

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>You may recall these teams played back at the end

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>of October Ohio State one that one by thirty one.

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 1>It was a thirty eight to seven final. In that game,

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:50.799
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Taylor tailback was held to fifty two yards. This

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:54.160
<v Speaker 1>was also just the in the early days of Jack

0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Cone before he turned into Dan Marino. Like we saw

0:38:56.480 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 1>last week. He was ten of seventeen for one and

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:04.960
<v Speaker 1>eight yards in touchdown. Meanwhile, JK. Dobbins had a big game,

0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.879
<v Speaker 1>Chase Young had four sacks. You get the point. They

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>won by thirty one. That's just the way these things go.

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Pretty impressive. Absolutely. My question to you, and something that

0:39:15.719 --> 0:39:17.879
<v Speaker 1>I have been dealing with in trying to break down

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:25.239
<v Speaker 1>this game, is do we feel that anything significant has

0:39:25.360 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>changed over the last month or so of football that

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 1>would change how you how we feel about Wisconsin.

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:38.399
<v Speaker 2>About Wisconsin, yes, yeah, I mean they're a little bit

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 2>more beat up on defense.

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>I know they're down their nose tackle. He's been out

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:46.359
<v Speaker 1>since Iowa. He's out for the year. AJ Taylor's beat up.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I think he's their second leading receiver. I don't know

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:52.879
<v Speaker 1>pass catcher, but receiver. I think a corner is hurt

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>who has a terrific name, cat you remember. I think

0:39:56.680 --> 0:40:00.120
<v Speaker 1>it's Rashad wild goose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that he's.

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:03.600
<v Speaker 2>Beat up and so that that has changed. But in

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:07.320
<v Speaker 2>terms of their actual performance since they played Ohio State,

0:40:07.400 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 2>they edged Iowa, and that looks better now how Iowa

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.759
<v Speaker 2>finished out their season beating Minnesota. Both I guess both

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Iowa and Wisconsin beat Minnesota. Their defense, to me, has

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>not looked amazing.

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Didn't look great against Nebraska, but managed to clean things

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>up against Minnesota in that sort of tumultuous weather.

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think dramatically. Jack Cone having a nice

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 2>game against Minnesota certainly is a.

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Plus, but the answer is no.

0:40:33.560 --> 0:40:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Though the answer they haven't gotten back like a game

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 2>changing receiver. They haven't gotten back three defensive linemen who

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 2>can't be can't be blocked, that kind of thing. So no,

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 2>I for better or worse, they seem similar.

0:40:46.000 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 1>They seem similar. If anything, I think Ohio State's gotten better,

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>and no that that's a problem as we enter this matchup.

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>The only thing that I would be hanging my hat

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:02.640
<v Speaker 1>on if I picked Wisconsin to win and or cover,

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, is the fact that this is a rematch,

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 1>that perhaps there is some familiarity between these two teams. Well,

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.480
<v Speaker 1>the first game was in Columbus, right, it's in Columbus, right,

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 1>so this neutral side, it's in India. I get it

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 1>different atmospherics at play, but it's just that Ohio State

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 1>is so good against the run, they're even better against

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the pass. I don't feel like this game is drastically

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 1>different from the first. Maybe Wisconsin gets to fourteen or

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty one points somewhere in that neighborhood, but I think

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State's like eighteen to twenty one points better here.

0:41:41.680 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 1>I still stand by the fact that they're the best

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 1>team in the country, and I don't see this game

0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 1>being that different from what we saw the first time

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.800
<v Speaker 1>they played. Can I ask you a follow up? Please?

0:41:54.360 --> 0:41:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Would you say the left knee of Justin Fields is

0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>exactly the same? It is not. Time they play, it

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>is not Would you say that Justin Field's mobility in

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:08.280
<v Speaker 1>terms of scrambling for first downs on third and nine

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>or buying himself more time to find an open receiver

0:42:11.280 --> 0:42:14.880
<v Speaker 1>who is popping out of a pretty good Wisconsin defense,

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.680
<v Speaker 1>would you say that helped them the first time? It

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>helped them the first time? Sure?

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Would you say he's probably going to be more limited

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:27.320
<v Speaker 2>with an mcl sprain in terms of cutting and speed

0:42:27.400 --> 0:42:32.240
<v Speaker 2>and changing directions and being able to be the dual

0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 2>threat sort of.

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Was it wunderkind? No German? Sure, gotta go the wunderkind wounderkind?

0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that is altered? I knew he came

0:42:43.400 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>off the bench after his injury against Michigan and threw

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:48.239
<v Speaker 1>a pass to the back of the end zone off

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:50.439
<v Speaker 1>the short leg. So no, I think he'll be fine.

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't. He might not be as explosive, and to

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>your point, sure, maybe he's not as quite as big

0:42:56.120 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 1>old knee brace. Yeah, but I think he'll be fine.

0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>He's fine good enough when he is normally a game

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.880
<v Speaker 1>changer at full health, when you have all of these weapons,

0:43:04.960 --> 0:43:08.720
<v Speaker 1>when you have JK. Dobbins being a bowling ball with eyes.

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 1>Dobbins back there, Thank you, Gus. It's a gus game.

0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it is a gust game, so beware. But

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't feel like anything is so drastically different.

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Ohio State has not shown any signs of letting up

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>all year. I don't understand why it would start. I'm

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:28.600
<v Speaker 1>not seeing anything that would tell me it's going to

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 1>start now.

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>So here is another difference. Right leading up to the

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin game. For Ohio State, I believe they had the

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Northwestern Friday night game leading up to it. You remember

0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:43.200
<v Speaker 2>that one. Yep, sure it's close, close for a few

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 2>minutes that it was Michigan State, a bye week, Northwestern

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin in retrospect, not a terribly challenging lead up leading

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 2>up to this game. Penn State somewhat close, Michigan emotional,

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.280
<v Speaker 2>not super close at the end. But it's a double

0:43:58.320 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 2>body blow game.

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Is it? Not? Facing Wisconsin a week after Michigan a

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 1>week after Penn State. You think Ohio State's the best

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>team in the country, and that's fine, I do. I

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 1>think it's significant with another week on the road. They

0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>were in an arbor last week, a beat up quarterback,

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>so you have that let down post rivalry. Not that

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:18.839
<v Speaker 1>they're not taking this game seriously, but these are all

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>human emotions. Maybe the Badgers are peaking.

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 2>A little bit and a little more confident after Jack

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Cone showed a sort of different element against a good

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 2>team last week. The good news for Ohio State is

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Sean Wade, who the corner who missed last week's game

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>against Michigan, appears to be The quote is should be ready,

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:37.359
<v Speaker 2>so the secondary should be in better shape for Ohio State.

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 2>I just Wisconsin's gonna need two of the following. They're

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna need some sort of fluke slash broken play. Yeah,

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.400
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna need a big return. They're gonna need a

0:44:48.440 --> 0:44:53.719
<v Speaker 2>big slash timely turnover. They're gonna need a noticeably immobile

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>justin fields. Hope it's not the case, but that would

0:44:56.040 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 2>certainly help Wisconsin's cause they need no JK. Dobbins run

0:45:00.680 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 2>to go longer than like fifteen or twenty yards, and

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I have down here they need major carpet and turf

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:12.239
<v Speaker 2>issues at key moments to really help them out.

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I have.

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 2>The defense is actually the bigger issue to me, but

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I still have because I think they might be able

0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:20.560
<v Speaker 2>to get one or two of those. Ohio State twenty eight,

0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin twenty wow. Yeah, so super dog Saturday for me.

0:45:25.600 --> 0:45:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean fair enough. I understand the logic. Wisconsin's

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 1>defense the last six weeks of the year, HM hasn

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 1>necessarily been much to write home about. Look good last week,

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.399
<v Speaker 1>yeah on the ground against Nebraska. Yeah, look good last

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>week against Minnesota. But there have been spots across the

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the second half the season here that

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 1>have left me wondering at points, but I just don't

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>think it's drastically different. I'm taking Ohio State minus whatever.

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>So we disagree, disagree, and then our final Power five

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Championship game if we could travel back in time, Dan,

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Because this show drops on a Thursday morning, we want

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.160
<v Speaker 1>to give people ample time to listen to the other

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:11.239
<v Speaker 1>content before we get to the Friday game.

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we can listen to our wrongness about Friday

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:16.439
<v Speaker 2>night as they go to a Saturday game.

0:46:16.560 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Save the best for last. Correct. This one is eight pm,

0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 1>it is Friday, It is on ABC. It is Utah

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.320
<v Speaker 1>at eleven and one, it is Oregon, your Oregon Ducks,

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>the defending Red Box Bowl champions Where's my hat? At

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:33.879
<v Speaker 1>ten and two? The point spread here is six, Dan, oh,

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>six points.

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's pretty low considering the other games that we

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:39.759
<v Speaker 2>have in front of us.

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 1>They still play this one in Santa Clara. Correct, Levi Stadium,

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>far as I know, as far as I know, So

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>talk to me about this one. How do you feel

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.919
<v Speaker 1>as an Oregon fan and alum.

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll speak to this both as an organ fan and alum,

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:57.879
<v Speaker 2>and as somebody who has watched the Utah Utes play

0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:02.760
<v Speaker 2>football this year. So for Oregon to win this game

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:07.240
<v Speaker 2>after a couple of pretty lousy performances from the offense.

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 2>They're fine defensively last year, but their offense has certainly

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:13.719
<v Speaker 2>been a pretty disjointed lot. Justin Herbert has to win

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:16.120
<v Speaker 2>this game. I don't think they can ride the running game.

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't think they can ride that pistol. I don't

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:20.760
<v Speaker 2>think they can ride counting on those backs. To really

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:25.440
<v Speaker 2>move the chains, they need to play uncharacteristically smart, aggressive,

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 2>and creatively in big moments on both sides of the ball.

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 2>We saw them fail the moments on defense, even though

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 2>they it was a pretty good defensive game, they gave

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 2>up those big passes to Jaden Daniels and those ASU receivers.

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 2>For me, there are just too many ifs about Oregon.

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 2>There's too many questions about Oregon and too many answers

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:47.560
<v Speaker 2>about Utah. The big question for me about Utah is

0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 2>it's been a nice year to be in the Pac twelve.

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:53.719
<v Speaker 2>It's been a very nice year to be good in

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:57.080
<v Speaker 2>the Pac twelve, which I emphatically believe Utah to be.

0:47:57.800 --> 0:48:00.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how tested they are. They tried to

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.719
<v Speaker 2>give away the Washington game in the third quarter with

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.319
<v Speaker 2>a couple of turnovers, and they came back like a

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:08.720
<v Speaker 2>good team should and overcame them and won that game.

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 2>It was a five point game, but they're up twelve late,

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:13.080
<v Speaker 2>so it was fine. They lost to USC and their

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 2>fourth string quarterback inexcusable the way they lost that game,

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Mistakes in the red zone, and just they just didn't

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:22.879
<v Speaker 2>look like themselves. Utah's the better team. Utah has more

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.239
<v Speaker 2>ways that they can win this game. Tyler Huntley can

0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 2>pick up first downs with his legs if everybody's covered

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 2>on third and seven. I think Utah's just in a

0:48:29.880 --> 0:48:32.759
<v Speaker 2>better space. Their front seven is ridiculous. They get after

0:48:32.800 --> 0:48:35.920
<v Speaker 2>the quarterback, they stopped the run, they stopped big plays.

0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 2>If Oregon has a shot, they're going to need to

0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 2>go downfield a good amount. And I think it was

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Michale Wright who had the one hundred yard kick return

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:47.279
<v Speaker 2>against USC. I talk about cleanliness. I talk about you

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:50.759
<v Speaker 2>needing something plus something plus something. I think Oregon's in

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 2>that spot because it's what we're thirteen or they're twelve

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:56.920
<v Speaker 2>games in and you watch their offense and you don't

0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 2>have a sense of like, what do we do well

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Oregon can That's that question.

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 1>That is my Yeah, that is actually what I've got

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>written down here on my show What's Our Bread and Butter.

0:49:08.480 --> 0:49:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I want to know what Oregon does well? Right, And

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>we've watched them playing defense pretty well, but offensively, I

0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know, you've watched him a lot more than I

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.400
<v Speaker 1>have this year, But that that was the question that

0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:23.799
<v Speaker 1>I kept coming back to. If I'm picking Oregon, what

0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:26.280
<v Speaker 1>am I truly leaning on? I guess it's Justin Herbert.

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Justin Herbert's an incredible talent. He's got moments, of course,

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>But what am I leaning on if I'm picking Oregon here?

0:49:34.920 --> 0:49:41.239
<v Speaker 1>And do I value those flashes of brilliance over just

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 1>the utter consistency of Utah so far the season? Right,

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 1>a top ten team both in terms of offense and

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:51.400
<v Speaker 1>defense according to the sp plus efficiency metrics, which I

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:55.799
<v Speaker 1>know we both love, and they've just been very consistent Oregon, Dan,

0:49:55.840 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 1>They've they've almost got a little bit of a half

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:00.399
<v Speaker 1>team complex going on. You just don't know what half

0:50:00.400 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 1>of the team is going to be better. Yeah, I

0:50:02.600 --> 0:50:05.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's almost like half of their games they look

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 1>really good, right, Like half of the games they look

0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:10.600
<v Speaker 1>like a complete team. We've seen it this year against

0:50:10.640 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, Colorado and USC teams like that, and other

0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 1>times you don't know what you know. Sometimes it's on execution,

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.440
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's on play calling. Sometimes it's on the stubborn

0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:24.680
<v Speaker 1>elements of how the offense is built.

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:27.680
<v Speaker 2>And here here's the I guess good news. If you're

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:29.520
<v Speaker 2>an Oregon fan, it should be a pretty mucked up

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:30.320
<v Speaker 2>game weatherwise.

0:50:30.440 --> 0:50:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we got a rain game, don't we. We've got rained.

0:50:34.040 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Give that to me. Give it to me.

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I would grab the under if you're a betting sort, Okay,

0:50:39.440 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 2>in a wind game, I think it's in the fifties. Uh,

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 2>the over under is where it's set right now. If

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:47.560
<v Speaker 2>you toss favor by about six and a half. That

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:49.759
<v Speaker 2>means they see it as what like my quick math,

0:50:49.840 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 2>like a thirty to twenty four ish type games.

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:56.839
<v Speaker 1>Twenty eight twenty three is what I have written down.

0:50:57.560 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that would it's right around in a where

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:03.440
<v Speaker 2>the is right now. But I think Utah wins this

0:51:03.480 --> 0:51:06.880
<v Speaker 2>game by thirteen points, and I just it's something like

0:51:07.280 --> 0:51:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, twenty seven, fourteen, thirty to seventeen, I

0:51:11.760 --> 0:51:14.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know. But I would hit that under, and I

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 2>feel good enough about Utah both covering and the under

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 2>that that's just a double barrel lock for me.

0:51:20.280 --> 0:51:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Really, you want me to lock it up? Yes? Please?

0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>Look of the Week? Wow?

0:51:28.680 --> 0:51:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, is this the biggest game in Utah football history?

0:51:31.960 --> 0:51:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Probably they beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. That's not

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:37.280
<v Speaker 2>insignificant to play in the Sugar Bowl against that type

0:51:37.280 --> 0:51:40.759
<v Speaker 2>of legacy, crazy program. But for Utah to have an

0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to waltz into the elite of the elite of

0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 2>the sports, I think this is the biggest game in

0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 2>program history. This is their Titanium super Bowl.

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 1>I think they're gonna do. Think they're gonna walk into

0:51:53.640 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 1>the playoff. I just think they're flat out better. I've

0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:58.759
<v Speaker 1>been stumping for Utah for a while now. Yeah, I

0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:01.480
<v Speaker 1>think they're a good team. I am very curious to

0:52:01.520 --> 0:52:05.839
<v Speaker 1>see if, because this game is on ABC, we get

0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:09.839
<v Speaker 1>some sort of like sidebar conversation about Utah. It's got

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Paul Fine Bamb's comments on their bulletin board in the

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:18.920
<v Speaker 1>little I saw that America doesn't want Utah in the playoff. Whatever,

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Paul right, I got twenty eight twenty three. I think

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:26.399
<v Speaker 1>win game Rain game maybe kind of close, but Utah

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 1>is better. I think they win. I think they get in.

0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:31.560
<v Speaker 2>If you are going to this game as a Utah

0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 2>fan or as an Organ fan, one, bring like a

0:52:33.719 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 2>poncho of some kind, maybe long underwear. Two you might

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:40.960
<v Speaker 2>be staying in San Francisco Del Popolo for pizza very

0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:43.680
<v Speaker 2>very good. And number three if you're staying in San

0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:47.200
<v Speaker 2>Jose Mexico Bakery for an incredible torta.

0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:51.600
<v Speaker 1>We've got five group of five championship games that we

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:54.080
<v Speaker 1>need to get through here very quickly. If we want

0:52:54.120 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to be thorough, We've got Sun Belt. It's funny how

0:52:56.960 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that works out. There are five group of five games

0:52:59.120 --> 0:53:03.879
<v Speaker 1>crazy in the sun Belt. We've got Louisiana at ten

0:53:03.920 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and two. We've got app State at eleven and one.

0:53:06.960 --> 0:53:09.600
<v Speaker 1>It's at high noon on Saturday. App State one. This

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:13.600
<v Speaker 1>one by ten back in the beginning of October. They

0:53:13.600 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 1>are a six point favorite. Here, Dan, who you got?

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Ragon Cagen's run the hell out of the ball. App

0:53:20.080 --> 0:53:22.680
<v Speaker 1>State gives up some big runs, so I'm gonna stick

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>with super Dog Saturday. Ragion Cagen's Louisiana by a touchdown

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 1>in boone. I've got app State, But I think it's close.

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a field goal the Mountaineers. Let's go

0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:36.319
<v Speaker 1>to the MAC Championship Game. Also at high noon, it

0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:39.320
<v Speaker 1>is Miami, Ohio. At seven and five. It is Central

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Michigan at eight and four. Central Michigan is a seven

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.560
<v Speaker 1>point favorite. This is the first time these teams have

0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:48.239
<v Speaker 1>played all year, Dan, Who you got?

0:53:50.560 --> 0:53:53.439
<v Speaker 2>You can throw on Central Michigan, but I don't see

0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Miami being able to. I've watched them some during some

0:53:56.200 --> 0:54:00.000
<v Speaker 2>action action. They beat up on a lot of terrible teams.

0:54:00.120 --> 0:54:01.240
<v Speaker 2>So did Central Michigan.

0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh, I'm gonna go Mac in the MAC Championship Chips

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 1>by ten. I'm with you. I'm with you. Conference USA

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:12.920
<v Speaker 1>Championship Game. It is at one thirty on Saturday. It

0:54:13.000 --> 0:54:16.600
<v Speaker 1>is UAB the Dragons. At nine and three, it is

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:21.759
<v Speaker 1>FAU the Owls Owl also at nine and three. The

0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Fighting Kiffins are a seven and a half point favorite. Dan.

0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:28.239
<v Speaker 1>They did not play during the regular season. Who you Got?

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I think I'm gonna take FAU. I don't think the

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Blazers are gonna be able to keep up, so I'm

0:54:32.520 --> 0:54:35.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna take the Owls by ten, especially since pretty good

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:36.720
<v Speaker 2>defense for Lane Kiffin and Boca.

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.319
<v Speaker 1>They do, don't they? Yeah, And it could be his

0:54:39.400 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 1>going away party, could be if he decides or if

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:44.680
<v Speaker 1>he's offered another job. So I'm with you. I like

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Fau by ten to fourteen points somewhere in that rain v. Fau, Yes,

0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:54.160
<v Speaker 1>excuse me. American Athletic Conference Championship Game, three p thirty

0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:57.319
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday. It is Cincinnati at ten and two. It

0:54:57.400 --> 0:55:01.640
<v Speaker 1>is Memphis at eleven and one. They played last week, Dan,

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 1>they played just last week. They played just last week Memphis,

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:08.640
<v Speaker 1>very same place, Well, very same place. Memphis won that

0:55:08.719 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 1>game by ten points, thirty four to twenty four. Well,

0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 1>and behold the point spread here is nine in the rematch, Dan,

0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 1>who you got? I think there's something super back and

0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:23.600
<v Speaker 1>forth about Cincinnati going to Memphis coming back. It's in

0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:25.799
<v Speaker 1>a long trip, but I'm gonna take Memphis here by

0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:28.240
<v Speaker 1>a couple of touchdowns. I don't trust the Cincinnati offense.

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:29.959
<v Speaker 1>Even though it's tough to beat a team two weeks

0:55:29.960 --> 0:55:32.840
<v Speaker 1>in a row comfortably, I still think Memphis is that

0:55:33.000 --> 0:55:36.439
<v Speaker 1>much better on offense. Cincinnati will get stops, but it's

0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:38.600
<v Speaker 1>just it's gonna it's gonna wear on them. I think

0:55:38.920 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 1>I got Memphis by two touchdowns. I think a point

0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:47.120
<v Speaker 1>that you raised last week is the important one, and

0:55:47.160 --> 0:55:49.319
<v Speaker 1>that's when they made us switch a quarterback. They made

0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:52.239
<v Speaker 1>a switch a quarterback, but just on the whole. Cincinnati's

0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:56.240
<v Speaker 1>offense has been sneaky terrible all year. Yeah, decent enough defense,

0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:57.680
<v Speaker 1>but not as good as they were a year ago.

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>And Memphis is really good on offense. Scoreman absolutely. And finally,

0:56:04.480 --> 0:56:08.799
<v Speaker 1>the Mountain West Championship game four pm. It is Hawaii

0:56:09.239 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 1>at nine to four. It is Boise State at eleven

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:17.040
<v Speaker 1>and one. The Broncos are a fourteen point favorite. These

0:56:17.080 --> 0:56:21.560
<v Speaker 1>two teams did play back in mid October. Boise won

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:24.799
<v Speaker 1>that game by a fifty nine to thirty seven margin, Dan.

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:27.719
<v Speaker 2>You got fifty nine? Would you say fifty nine and

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:30.520
<v Speaker 2>thirty seven? Twenty two points? Yep, it's a lot of points.

0:56:30.600 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Great half team in Hawaii. Those offense is great and

0:56:33.719 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 2>their defense can be a nightmare. I Boise was actually

0:56:39.000 --> 0:56:41.279
<v Speaker 2>pretty lucky to win at Colorado State, and I guess

0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:43.560
<v Speaker 2>what turned out to be Mike Bobo's final game. I'm

0:56:43.560 --> 0:56:46.640
<v Speaker 2>expecting big things from Boise's terrific freshman running back George

0:56:46.680 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Halani so I have another twenty point or forty four

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:49.640
<v Speaker 2>to twenty four.

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Boise.

0:56:51.200 --> 0:56:53.799
<v Speaker 2>That is all I have in the way, except for

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:56.080
<v Speaker 2>you have one other matchup, which you insist is bigger.

0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, baby, let's do it. I don't have a

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:03.640
<v Speaker 1>sound for this. I have all I played December to remember.

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's time works. It sort of takes the

0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:10.360
<v Speaker 1>steam out of this matchup. But it's at high noon.

0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>It is the number four Muhlenberg Mules, located right here

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>in good old Allentown, Pennsylvania. Division three. It is the

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:25.920
<v Speaker 1>number sixth rank Salisbury Seagulls, a team that was their

0:57:26.040 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 1>seafaring Team of the Week a couple of weeks ago. Yes,

0:57:29.080 --> 0:57:32.840
<v Speaker 1>they are squaring off in the Division three quarter finals.

0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Dan Muhlenberg undefeated, the Mules undefeated. How far are you

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:39.600
<v Speaker 2>from Muhlenberg.

0:57:40.320 --> 0:57:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I used to be five minutes from Ulenberg. Oh okay.

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:46.240
<v Speaker 1>They beat by the way. They beat Mit in the

0:57:46.280 --> 0:57:48.280
<v Speaker 1>first round of the tournament, and I think they won

0:57:48.920 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 1>forty two to nothing. Last week they did.

0:57:51.320 --> 0:57:55.360
<v Speaker 2>They took down the the Broxies of Brockport forty two nail.

0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:57.600
<v Speaker 2>They have not let up a point, no, not a

0:57:57.600 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 2>loot of point in the tournament, so some would say

0:58:01.560 --> 0:58:02.120
<v Speaker 2>some would.

0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Say a team of destiny. But here's where I'm going

0:58:04.640 --> 0:58:09.920
<v Speaker 1>with this. Friend of the show and participant in our

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:14.520
<v Speaker 1>DC Live show, one Tim Murray, who's on NBC Sports Network.

0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I know you've been on Tim Show a bunch of times, right, Yeah,

0:58:18.080 --> 0:58:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I think so. He is named Muhlenberg Alump, and he

0:58:21.600 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 1>also an athlete, former athlete, and also lives close enough

0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to where this game is taking place. So I was

0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:34.120
<v Speaker 1>talking to him today and I'm trying to get him

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to pack up the wife and the kids, throw him

0:58:35.920 --> 0:58:40.200
<v Speaker 1>in the car, make the short jaunt down to Salisbury.

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Did you're on your alma mater? He refused? Tailgateing he refuses.

0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:47.600
<v Speaker 1>He said it's going to be cold, So I think

0:58:48.160 --> 0:58:51.200
<v Speaker 1>we should do it not so secret verbal and encourage

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 1>him as only for ballers can to go and watch

0:58:55.080 --> 0:58:58.360
<v Speaker 1>his Muhlenberg mules. Just tweet at him and say, what

0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of man is scared of seagulls? Go watch some

0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:04.800
<v Speaker 1>football coward? You don't have to do the left part

0:59:05.360 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 1>one the numeral one one Tim Murray t I M

0:59:11.160 --> 0:59:13.960
<v Speaker 1>m U R R A Y the number one Tim

0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Murray on Twitter. Yeah, what kind of man is scared

0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:17.360
<v Speaker 1>of seagulls. That's all.

0:59:17.360 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 2>I got to go watch some football. Comma coward, That's

0:59:21.920 --> 0:59:23.320
<v Speaker 2>all I have as well. I know he listens to

0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:24.840
<v Speaker 2>the show, so he's going to hear that. But just

0:59:24.920 --> 0:59:26.920
<v Speaker 2>encourage him to have a great time. He as a

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:29.400
<v Speaker 2>young child. Everybody can go have a great time with

0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:30.560
<v Speaker 2>some were they D three?

0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:34.760
<v Speaker 2>Sure, D three football? Come on, make it happens done

0:59:34.800 --> 0:59:39.960
<v Speaker 2>all right? I have time, cleanliness, serotonin, shampoo, whatever you need.

0:59:40.240 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Whatever you need, savor the flavor, what you ever? Do?

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:46.200
<v Speaker 1>You have a lock? My lock is Ohio State. Oh okay,

0:59:46.280 --> 0:59:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm walking up Ohio State. It has been a pleasure

0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:54.160
<v Speaker 1>doing these previous shows with you all season, Dan, Are

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:58.000
<v Speaker 1>you breaking up with me? Not yet? Okay. We will

0:59:58.040 --> 1:00:00.479
<v Speaker 1>be back on Sunday to recap all of this action

1:00:00.600 --> 1:00:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and much much more. Perhaps there will be other coaching

1:00:03.640 --> 1:00:06.840
<v Speaker 1>news breaking in the college football sphere. If it does,

1:00:06.920 --> 1:00:09.480
<v Speaker 1>we will be with you on Sunday to discuss it.

1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:13.880
<v Speaker 1>We'll also be with you on Tuesday. La Florida State

1:00:13.880 --> 1:00:15.400
<v Speaker 1>will name a coach by the end of the weekend.

1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:17.880
<v Speaker 1>They claim they want to. They claim they wanted to

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:20.080
<v Speaker 1>before the end of November, but that didn't quite work out.

1:00:20.480 --> 1:00:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Could mean that it's somebody involved in a conference championship game.

1:00:23.640 --> 1:00:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Could be Mike Norvel, could be Mike Norvell involved in

1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:28.680
<v Speaker 2>a conference championship could be one of the Clemson co

1:00:28.760 --> 1:00:29.800
<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinators.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we will have to wait and see. We thank

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<v Speaker 1>you again for downloading the show, for subscribing to the show,

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<v Speaker 1>for being such a willing participant in our madness here

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<v Speaker 1>on the solid verbal until we talk again on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again. Enjoy your weekend and stay solid. Peace.